November 19, 2016

A Buyers’ Market For A Very Long Time

A report from the Southwest Farm Press. “‘Things will get worse before they get better.’ That’s the opening warning shot by Damona Doye, Oklahoma State University Regents Professor and Rainbolt Chair in Agriculture Finance, in her ag land management perspective presentation prepared for the recent OSU Rural Economic Outlook Conference. Bankers expect farm income to remain weak in the third quarter, she says. ‘Similar to last year, a significant number of bankers in each district expect farm income in the third quarter to be less than the previous year.’”

“‘They expect the rate of decline to be sharpest in the Mountain States and Oklahoma, which are relatively more dependent on income from wheat, cattle, and energy production than other parts of the district. As the outlook in these three sectors has become increasingly downbeat, more bankers in those regions expect farm income to decline further.’ Consequently, bankers are seeing severe repayment problems that are growing, but still at very low levels both in Oklahoma and for the district. ‘Major repayment problems have increased relatively more, with some growth in minor repayment problems also evident.’”

From The Packer. “The good news for potato growers is they have a bumper crop of potatoes. The bad news is this surplus of product has lowered early prices. Ralph Schwartz, vice president of marketing, sales and innovation at Idaho Falls, Idaho-based Potandon Produce LLC, said potatoes have flooded the early market and led to low pricing. Eric Patrick, marketing director for Grant J. Hunt Co., Kirkland, Wash., agreed with Schwartz’s market assessment, saying because there is more crop throughout all regions of the U.S., it’s a buyer’s market with aggressive pricing. ‘Russet potatoes also are in a buyers’ market with good quality out of Washington and Idaho,’ he said.”

From Undercurrent News. “Consumers will ultimately gain from a forecast increase in farmed whitefish production worldwide, to 12 million metric tons by 2020, said Rabobank’s chief seafood analyst. Speaking to an audience at Marel’s Whitefish ShowHow event held in Copenhagen Nov. 10, Gorjan Nikolik said production increases in the world’s fastest-growing protein industry will mainly be driven by Asia, though more countries are expected to become producers for export.”

“Earlier this year, Rabobank published a report outlining Brazil’s huge potential as a producer, which could see it challenge China in the long-term. But the overall increase in production will outweigh growth in demand. With an increasingly fierce battle for business, Nikolik reckons it will be ‘a buyers’ market for a very long time.’”

“The US market illustrates the effect of this competition — in just a few short years Vietnamese pangasius has risen to command a near 50% share of the frozen whitefish market there, according to figures from July, clawing share from Chinese tilapia. Frozen tilapia prices have subsequently fallen from $2.55 per pound in 2014 to $1.75/lb this year. ‘In 2008, Americans didn’t know what [pangasius] fish was. But in the space of a few years, it has become massive,’ said the analyst.”

“Today Asia produces 87% of the world’s farmed freshwater whitefish, owing to massive aquaculture industries in China, Indonesia and Vietnam. The production surge started with China and tilapia farming for export, thanks to the country’s heavily subsidized aquaculture sector. Indonesia quickly followed suit, also with tilapia, while Vietnam dived into production of pangasius.”

“This saw tilapia production increase by 1m tons every three years, according to Nikolik. By 2014, global whitefish production was just shy of 10mt. But ‘the biggest volume increase in production hasn’t even yet occurred,’ said the analyst. ‘And that’s a big thing to say if you see what has happened already.’”

“Despite Rabobank’s forecast for continued growth in global production, the world’s largest producer of farmed fresh water whitefish — China — faces long-term decline as an exporter, reckons Nikolik. This is on account of rising feed and labor costs, and growing domestic consumption, which are leading to a slowdown ‘and possibly, in future, a contraction’ in exports, he added. ‘Asia is the most populous part of the world – with 60-70% of the world’s population – but they have a small fraction of the available land and water to produce grain. They shouldn’t be the ones exporting farmed fish to us. It should be the other way around.’”

From AgriNews. “Cash rent as a percent of farmland price sometimes is used as a benchmark for determining the appropriateness of a cash rent level. Over time, cash rents as percentages of land prices have declined, with declines corresponding to decreases in returns of interest bearing financial assets. Until interest rates increase, cash as a percent of land price likely will remain at historically low levels.”

“An approach sometimes used in evaluating the appropriateness of a cash rent begins with two pieces of data: 1) land price and a 2) desired percent return. The desired return is the current, cash return desired from farmland and does not include capital gains (losses) due to increases (decreases) in farmland prices. A $9,000 per acre farmland price and a 3.0 percent desired return gives a benchmark cash rent of $270 per acre ($9,000 land price x .03 return).”

“Besides issues associated with determining the appropriate levels of farmland prices and returns, two issues complicate using this approach. The first is that theory suggests causality runs from farmland returns to land prices and not the other way around. Increases in cash rents lead to increases in farmland prices. Similarly, decreases in cash rents lead to decreases in farmland prices.”

“If the ‘market’ cash rent is below the benchmark cash rent, the price of farmland simply may be too high and needs to adjust downward. In the above example, suppose the desired return is 3 percent, but the “market” cash rent is $220 per acre rather than the $270 benchmark cash rent. A 3 percent return on the farmland investment results if farmland price decreases from $9,000 per acre down to $7,333 ($220 cash rent / .03 return).”

“The second issue is that the desired return varies with changes in market conditions. Since the mid-1980s, cash rents as percentages of land values have decreased. For state-level averages in Illinois, cash rent as a percent of land value averaged 8.0 percent in 1985. From these high levels, cash rents as percentages of land values had a consistent downward trend, reaching a low of 3.0 in 2016.”

“This downward trend corresponds to decreases in yields on interest bearing financial assets. For example, yields on the 10-year constant maturity Treasury note fell during the same period. Ten-year notes averaged a 10.62 percent yield in 1985, falling to 2.14 percent in 2015.”

“Yields on 10-year Treasury notes provide an indication of returns of competing investments to farmland. Moreover, 10-year yields provide an indicator of changes in interest rates on farm mortgages. Between 1985 and 2015, the correlation coefficient between cash rents as percentages of land values and 10-year yields is .93. When returns on interest-bearing assets are low, cash rent as a percent of land price should be expected to be low as well.”

“Interest rates have been on a declining trend from 1985 to the present, with rates being particularly low since the 2008 financial crisis. Since 2008, U.S. Federal Reserve Bank actions have been designed to encourage low interest rates. While the U.S. economy has been growing for the past several years, growth rates have not reached levels that occurred during the 1960s through 1980s. Moreover, much of the growth currently taking place does not appear to require much capital. Low demand for capital then leads to low interest rates. Furthermore, interest rates are higher in the U.S. than in many countries.”

“Currently, cash rent as a percent of land price is above the yield on the 10-year Treasury. From 1985 to 2015, cash rent as a percent of land price averaged .3 percent below the 10-year yield. If the -.3 relationship holds in the future, cash rents as percentages of land prices could decrease to near 2 percent. Cash rents as percentages of land prices have trended down as yields on Treasury notes have decreased. Further declines in cash rent as a percent of land prices are possible. Cash rents as percentages of land prices likely will remain low as long as interest rates remain low.”




RSS feed

51 Comments »

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 09:57:59

‘Since the mid-1980s, cash rents as percentages of land values have decreased. For state-level averages in Illinois, cash rent as a percent of land value averaged 8.0 percent in 1985. From these high levels, cash rents as percentages of land values had a consistent downward trend, reaching a low of 3.0 in 2016.’

‘This downward trend corresponds to decreases in yields on interest bearing financial assets. For example, yields on the 10-year constant maturity Treasury note fell during the same period. Ten-year notes averaged a 10.62 percent yield in 1985, falling to 2.14 percent in 2015.’

There was a time when the central bank insisted they didn’t control long term interest rates. That was until they bought the entire yield curve and were exposed as the manipulators that they are. Well, you’ve done your manipulations Janet and it looks like a big giant mess to me. The overcapacity and deflationary powers are pretty obvious.

Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 10:46:46

If these foreign govts keep unloading treasuries someone will need to buy them if they don’t want yields to skyrocket.

If interest rates go up this bubble economy will unravel fast.

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 10:50:18

If?

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 10:57:03

Global Bonds Post Biggest Two-Week Loss in Quarter Century

‘The Bloomberg Barclays Global Aggregate Index has fallen 4 percent since Nov. 4. It’s the biggest two-week rout in data going back to 1990. Federal Reserve Chair Janet Yellen contributed to the decline by saying Thursday an interest-rate hike could come “relatively soon.”

‘Treasury 10-year note yields climbed five basis points, or 0.05 percentage point, to 2.35 percent as of 5 p.m. in New York, reaching the highest since November 2015, according to Bloomberg Bond Trader data. The 2 percent security due in November 2026 closed at 96 27/32.’

“Trump is a game changer,” Park Sung-jin, the Seoul-based head of investment at Mirae Asset Securities Co., which oversees $7.6 billion. “I was bearish, but the current level is more than I expected.”

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 11:04:11

‘If more of the same is ahead over the next few years, many investors will be in a world of pain, especially retirees, who could suffer 2008-style losses — this time in “safe” bonds.’

‘So says Ric Edelman, executive chairman of Edelman Financial Services, a Fairfax, Va.-based financial planning firm that manages $17 billion for 31,000 families. Barron’s named the firm the nation’s No. 1 independent financial advisor in 2009, 2010, and 2012.’

“The typical investor today has never experienced a sustained rising-rate environment and they are emotionally and historically unprepared for what happens when interest rates go up 3% or 5%,” he said. Millions of Americans, he observed, “are engaging in a variety of risky behaviors, often without knowing what they’re doing. They’re setting themselves up to lose a lot of money over the next several years, perhaps as much as they lost in 2008 in stocks.”

The all time high for US govt bonds was last July, BTW.

 
Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 11:28:05

If rates were to go up the FED would be underwater on a lot of treasuries and be forced to hold till maturity or take a loss.

It seems like they have some real funny accounting over there doesnt it?

Like the interest on the treasuries they hold being given to the treasury?

I see their balance going to whatever it takes to keep rates low.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 11:30:30

You’ve been betrayed.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-19 11:35:15

Remember… Nothing accelerates the economy and creates jobs like rising interest rates to dramatically higher and more typical levels. Nothing.

 
Comment by mcbain!
2016-11-19 15:42:35

LOL, people arent “emotionally” prepared for rising interest rates? Whole country needs a safe space.

 
Comment by alphonso bedoya
2016-11-19 18:42:59

I’m “emotionally” prepared for rising rates. :) I think we need to raise it by sixty-fourths rather than by eighths or fourths.
The first rise needs to be seven sixty-fourths (7/64).

P.S. We can even have another gathering at Jackson Hole to discuss the merits of sixty-fourths.

 
Comment by rms
2016-11-19 23:29:23

“Whole country needs a safe space.”

“A place where college students can go if they have been subjected to ideas that differ from the progressive narrative. These safe spaces have pillows, soothing music and an understanding, sympathetic staff. Presumably, this allows them to recover from the trauma; free from any lasting damage resulting from exposure to ideas that conflict with their leftist professors.” —Urban Dictionary

 
Comment by rms
2016-11-19 23:31:16

“Whole country needs a safe space.”

Safe Space: “A place where college students can go if they have been subjected to ideas that differ from the progressive narrative. These safe spaces have pillows, soothing music and an understanding, sympathetic staff. Presumably, this allows them to recover from the trauma; free from any lasting damage resulting from exposure to ideas that conflict with their leftist professors.” —Urban Dictionary

 
 
 
 
Comment by Justme
2016-11-19 12:49:09

The article unsurprisingly does not mention the bubble in land cost, which of course is the real problem. The problem is of course that the land cost (what was paid) is higher than the land value (what it is really worth in terms of generating income). Funny how that gets completely overlooked by the bubbleheads.

I don’t see how rasing TYT interest rates is going to help the rent to increase. That seems backwards. In fact, both farmland price and rent will have to drop in order to compete with just buying bonds.

 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-11-19 09:58:21

Realtors are liars.

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-11-19 10:41:45

Did Don grab Haley?

Grab a 4% mortgage while u can

Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 11:12:28

‘A group of online consumer loans that were packaged into bonds is going bad faster than lenders and bond underwriters had expected, the latest sign that some startups that aimed to revolutionize the banking industry underestimated the risk they were taking.’

‘Delinquencies and defaults are reaching key levels known as “triggers” for at least four different sets of bonds. Breaching those levels will force lenders or underwriters to start paying down the bonds early. Avant Inc. and its underwriters, for example, are going to have to begin to repay three of its asset-backed notes, according to a person with knowledge of the matter.’

‘Two of Avant’s securities breached triggers this month for the first time, the person said, asking for anonymity because the data is not public. Another bond, tied to the subprime lender CircleBack Lending Inc., may also soon breach those levels, according to Morgan Stanley analysts. When the four offerings were originally sold last year, they totaled more than $500 million in size. Around $2.8 billion of bonds backed by online consumer loans were sold in 2015, according to research firm PeerIQ.’

‘Online loans have shown other signs of weakening. LendingClub Corp. last month raised interest rates and tightened its standards for at least the second time this year after seeing higher delinquencies among its customers, especially those with the most debt.’

‘LendingClub’s founder, Renaud Laplanche, wanted to change banking as we know it, but many online lenders are now finding themselves in uncharted territory. Steve Eisman, a money manager who famously predicted the collapse of subprime mortgage securities, said some firms have been careless and that Silicon Valley is “clueless” about the work involved in making loans to consumers. Non-bank startups arranged more than $36 billion of loans in 2015, mainly for consumers, up from $11 billion the year before, according to a report from KPMG.’

“There was a rush to grow,” said Bryan Sullivan, chief financial officer of LoanDepot, a mortgage company that last year began making unsecured loans to consumers online. He was speaking generally about the industry, although LoanDepot’s own loan losses on a bond in September broke through the ceilings that had been set by underwriters at Jefferies Group.’

‘There have been pockets of weakness for some kinds of credit. The percentage of subprime car loan borrowers that were past due reached a six-year high in August according to S&P Global Ratings’ analysis of debts bundled into bonds.’

‘Jay Levine, the chief executive officer of OneMain Holdings Inc., one of America’s largest subprime lenders, said last week that “the availability of unsecured credit is currently the greatest that has been in recent years,” although he said much of the most intense competition is coming from credit card lenders. OneMain, formerly part of Citigroup, is taking steps to curb potential losses by requiring the weakest borrowers to pledge collateral.’

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-19 11:06:38

‘A Buyers’ Market For A Very Long Time’

A very long time.

Get what you can get for your house today because it’s going to be much much less tomorrow for many years to come.

Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 11:16:21

“houses appreciate over time”

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-19 15:36:47

Are you sure?

Edgewood, WA Housing Prices Crater 11% YoY

http://www.zillow.com/kenmore-wa/home-values/

 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-11-19 12:59:06

You said that 2 yrs ago and missed the 10% increase.

Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 13:20:24

exactly dude it been more like 8 years

someday he might be right.

 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2016-11-19 11:26:06

Drudge link about Fakebook and fake friends:

http://nypost.com/2016/11/17/social-media-is-making-you-a-bad-friend/

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-19 14:41:45

My neice has several hundred Facebook friends, and not a single real one. Constantly in front of a screen while her pointless life slips away a day at a time. Of course she’s also a Lib-Dem.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2016-11-19 11:28:11

‘Today Asia produces 87% of the world’s farmed freshwater whitefish, owing to massive aquaculture industries in China, Indonesia and Vietnam. The production surge started with China and tilapia farming for export, thanks to the country’s heavily subsidized aquaculture sector. Indonesia quickly followed suit, also with tilapia, while Vietnam dived into production of pangasius.’

‘This saw tilapia production increase by 1m tons every three years, according to Nikolik. By 2014, global whitefish production was just shy of 10mt. But ‘the biggest volume increase in production hasn’t even yet occurred,’ said the analyst. ‘And that’s a big thing to say if you see what has happened already.’

‘Despite Rabobank’s forecast for continued growth in global production, the world’s largest producer of farmed fresh water whitefish — China — faces long-term decline as an exporter, reckons Nikolik. This is on account of rising feed and labor costs, and growing domestic consumption, which are leading to a slowdown ‘and possibly, in future, a contraction’ in exports, he added. ‘Asia is the most populous part of the world – with 60-70% of the world’s population – but they have a small fraction of the available land and water to produce grain. They shouldn’t be the ones exporting farmed fish to us. It should be the other way around.’

It’s difficult to keep count of the markets involved. Nuts, dairy, meat, eggs, grains, potatoes, land.

Comment by palmetto
2016-11-19 14:19:48

Tilapia is disgusting, IMO. The other day, I saw something in the supermarket called “swai”. The idea of eating fish “farmed” in China gives me the dry heaves. Gross.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-19 14:56:55

Don’t forget about the slave laborers forced to work aboard Thai and other shrimp boats. Globalism at its finest.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2015/dec/14/shrimp-sold-by-global-supermarkets-is-peeled-by-slave-labourers-in-thailand

 
Comment by alphonso bedoya
2016-11-19 19:00:15

In none of these discussions does anyone address the impact of rising oceans on fertile deltas in Asia.
There’s a flock of Black Swans out there that bankers and growers think are crows.

 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-11-19 12:56:59

It is amazing the VISA still gets people to pay 13-18%.

Comment by oxide
2016-11-19 16:02:08

My CC company just sent me some of those balance transfer checks. I could transfer my balances to their credit card for some limited semi-low rate, BUT, I would “lose the ability to defer interest accumulation until the next billing statement.” In other words, for a ONE-TIME balance transfer, I would lose my float *forever.*

I ripped it up.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2016-11-19 16:24:57

In other words, for a ONE-TIME balance transfer, I would lose my float *forever.*

Not _forever_—just until your balance returns to zero. CC’s have been playing that game for as long as I can remember. Most people don’t understand the hidden cost.

Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 16:44:36

“we have a group of people that is creating credit out of thin air and extorting interest from people.”

(Comments wont nest below this level)
 
Comment by oxide
2016-11-20 05:30:47

Prime, I didn’t see anything about balances at 0. It looked to me like I could transfer the balance, pay it off, sit for a year at 0, charge something else, and STILL be charged interest from Day 1. But then I didn’t bother to read the fine print. Nothing in the fine print is in my favor.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2016-11-21 00:26:55

sit for a year at 0, charge something else, and STILL be charged interest from Day 1.

That would be new, if true—and shockingly bad for customers.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by 2banana
2016-11-19 13:45:13

The liberal death spiral.

Higher taxes lead to more people leaving which leads to higher taxes….

Cutting spending never enters the equation.

——

Illinois’ wealth flight explained in 4 graphics
Illinois Policy | November 15, 2016 | Michael Lucci

IRS data show the average income of taxpayers leaving Illinois surpassed the average income of taxpayers entering the state by $20,000 in 2014, a record loss for Illinois in the wake of the 2011 income-tax hike.

Politicians enacted Illinois’ 2011 income-tax hike during a late-night legislative session in January 2011 and raised the state’s personal income-tax rate to 5 percent from 3 percent. This 67 percent income-tax hike lasted for four years, during which time Illinois experienced record wealth flight.
IRS data reveal what happens when politicians choose short-term tax revenue gains over long-term stability. The short-term increase in tax revenue gained from higher tax rates is offset by the long-term loss of substantial portions of Illinois’ tax base.

Illinois has America’s worst differential between the average income of people who leave the state and the average income of people who enter the state. Behind Illinois’ $20,000 income differential were Connecticut with a $16,000 income differential; Kansas at $12,000; and Ohio and Washington, D.C., each with an $11,600 income differential.

By contrast, the top five states with favorable income differentials were Florida, Wyoming, Nevada, South Carolina and Texas. Notably, 4 of 5 of these states have no income tax, and none of them have a death tax.

Illinois faces limitations in addressing its ongoing fiscal crisis in light of the fact that higher-income Illinoisans are opting out of Illinois residency. Further tax hikes will push these people out even faster. Rather, Illinois politicians have to rein in their spending habits.

Comment by taxpayers
2016-11-19 13:53:50

Il tried to back date a 65 retirement but lib judge stopper it. Next up, bk w no bama to stop it w a bailout.

Comment by palmetto
2016-11-19 14:27:05

Back in 1975, Gerald Ford was said to have told New York City to “Drop Dead”, figuratively speaking. Something I hope happens to Chicago, when the time comes.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/president-ford-announces-won-bailout-nyc-1975-article-1.2405985

Comment by mcbain!
2016-11-19 15:47:12

Pretty easy to drop dead in Chicago, just go into the right neighborhood and the dindu nuffins will be happy to oblige. They even like to “drop dead” each other all the time.

(Comments wont nest below this level)
Comment by rms
2016-11-19 23:35:08

Could even happen over a pair of tennis shoes. Hehe.

 
 
 
 
Comment by new attitude
2016-11-19 16:23:35

See Kansas - how did that workout?

See CA - $2.8 bill surplus.

next

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-11-19 13:58:15

At what point does the realtor have to disclose a tax increase?
W chighettos 12,8% hike coming who would buy?

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-19 14:43:04

Anyone who signs a 30-year mortgage on a house in a corrupt Democrat-run municipality better assume they are going to be funding a lot of patronage and graft over the life of the loan.

 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-19 14:59:57

Revealed: the REAL fake news list (Real Journalists who colluded with the DNC to get Crooked Hillary elected).

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-19/ron-paul-exposes-real-fake-media

Comment by phony scandals
2016-11-19 15:43:56

The Truth About Fake News

Paul Joseph Watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2016-11-19 19:37:04

That was excellent. Thanks for posting, PS.

 
 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-11-19 15:55:58

Remember….. A house is a rapidly depreciating asset that costs you wealth every day you own it.

 
Comment by mcbain!
2016-11-19 16:02:15

Italy under assault by dindus imported by (((Soros))).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgxvQXunMmU

Comment by phony scandals
2016-11-19 18:08:58

Did you notice how many of the refugees were women and children?

 
 
Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 16:36:51

“If you had to beg for a loan to buy it, there is a high probability it was grossly overpriced.”

 
Comment by taxpayers
2016-11-19 16:38:52

Interest up 10% in 2 weeks w 5% tax increase coming

 
Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
 
Comment by azdude
2016-11-19 17:15:15

“GREED IS KEPT IN CHECK BY THE FEAR OF LOSING MONEY.”

 
Name (required)
E-mail (required - never shown publicly)
URI
Your Comment (smaller size | larger size)
You may use <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong> in your comment.

Trackback responses to this post