February 20, 2006

Luxury ‘Souffle Adjusting’ In Long Beach

The Press Telegram has this report on Long Beach. “One million dollars for a home in Long Beach nowadays doesn’t sound far-fetched following a five-year market expansion with repeated double-digit percentage increases in housing prices. In fact, the run-up in home prices has forced a change in the definition of what constitutes a luxury home. The index tracks homes whose value in 1995 were $1 million.”

“But as the once red-hot housing market continues to cool the slowdown is affecting all homes, including luxury homes. (Banker) Katherine August-deWilde said luxury home prices may experience some price decreases in the year ahead, but she sees no signs of an inversion.”

“‘I would call it more of an adjustment,’ she said, adding that any deflation in the luxury market is better described as ‘a souffle as opposed to a bubble bursting.’”

“More and more sellers of luxury homes are already cutting prices, said Keller Williams Realty agent Richard Daskam, who has moved several million-dollar listings in the past few years. More and more sellers of luxury homes are already cutting prices, said agent Richard Daskam, who has moved several million-dollar listings in the past few years.”

“He recently took over a four-bedroom, three-bathroom listing in Signal Hill that was on the market for six months with no offers. He knocked $100,000 off the $1.5 million asking price and it sold in 45 days.”

“‘The slow down in the high-end million-dollar homes is definitely due to a slowdown in the middle-of-the-road median homes, because these are the buyers who have been moving up to these homes,’ he said. ‘What I’m getting from my buyers who are in the million-dollar range, is ‘If I have to come down on my home, then I expect the seller to come down in price also.’ It’s not necessarily dollar for dollar, but they are expecting some adjustments.’”

“Neighborhoods that will likely see home prices fall below the $1 million mark first are those areas where home prices are not traditionally high, Daskam said.”




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Comment by cereal
2006-02-20 12:59:11

be careful in long beach. drive 3 or 4 blocks in any direction and you can be in a gang ghetto.

Comment by Melody
2006-02-20 13:42:53

Long Beach is scary. I do some work for an office off Atlantic. Lots of strange people there. But then Santa Ana is scary too.

Comment by homepop
2006-02-20 17:00:49

Signal Hill is a gang infested dump. I lived in Long Beach 20 years ago, and Signal Hill was best known as a place to go…around. One million plus dollar homes there is truly the consequence of psychosis.

Comment by Pismobear
2006-02-20 22:37:12

That’s why I’ve got a ‘right to carry’ permit and several small ‘dirty harry’s’ (38 spec) loaded with wad cutters. When I visit my income property I make sure that the hood knows I’m packing. Other than that no problems in Signal Hill. Like a breath of fresh air.

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Comment by sfbayqt
2006-02-20 13:09:35

Absolutely! I’ve been there several times myself. Many of those times, though, I was on my way cruising. But I have visited folks who lived in the area. A luxury area, it ain’t.

“‘I would call it more of an adjustment,’ she said, adding that any deflation in the luxury market is better described as ‘a souffle as opposed to a bubble bursting.’”

And they are REALLY killing me with this souffle, soft landing, air seeping out, BS. What was it that AG called it? Damn, I forgot already…but it was stupid, too. In Dr. Phil’s words, “You can’t fix what you don’t acknowledge.” (paraphrasing here)

BayQT~

Comment by Catherine
2006-02-20 13:19:46

You’re right! What’s with the thesaurus cooking words? Souffle???? Next we’ll be hearing “whipped cream”, “fold gently”, and “delicately pat with butter”….

Comment by happy renter
2006-02-20 13:26:59

Soufle is Appropriate if your cooking data. :)

 
Comment by sfbayqt
2006-02-20 13:42:03

You are TOO much, Catherine. That was great! :-D :-D

BayQT~

 
Comment by SB BubbleBeliever
2006-02-20 15:42:36

VERY FUNNY!

Another prediction:

Maybe later this year these folks should start looking in foreign word dictionaries…

for example, “F’d” in French- may sound much more palatable as a meltdown description.

 
Comment by baselle
2006-02-20 18:41:44

How about fudge? Which is what the current data is comprised of.

 
Comment by bottomfisherman
2006-02-20 20:33:43

I guess that aviation (soft landing) got old, so now it’s cuisine (souffle). Yummy, I’m getting hungry already. Bring on the lowballs when that souffle falls!

 
 
Comment by LinQ
2006-02-22 12:20:54

I don’t know if she has ever tried to cook a souffle but if you don’t get it EXACTLY right you pretty much wind up w/a crepe. A fallen souffle is a disaster so I actually like this one.

 
 
Comment by sfbayqt
2006-02-20 13:12:28

AG Bubble = froth

 
Comment by crispy&cole
2006-02-20 13:23:07

Im sure Snoop Dogg could buy your LBC house for a million dollars. F-hizzle on my shizzle!

Comment by sfbayqt
2006-02-20 13:41:09

ROFL!!!! I’m dying over here!! Fo’ shizzle!

BayQT~

 
Comment by ocrenter
2006-02-20 13:41:30

well, snoop is actually kickin’ it in Diamond Bar’s “The Country.” Looks like the schools and the ‘hood in the LBC just aren’t up to standard for snoop jrs.

 
Comment by mo
2006-02-20 18:40:36

from Snoops’ gin & juice

With so much drama in the L-B-C
It’s kinda hard being Snoop D-O-double-G
But I, somehow, some way
I see that inventory rise like every single day

May I, kick a little something for flippers (yeah)
and, make a few flips as (yeah!) I drive, through
The condo-filled streets and construction’s still goin
cause the builders ain’t done

I got bankers in the living room with the realt-Whores
and, they ain’t leavin til six in the mornin (six in the mornin)
So what you wanna do, sheeeit
I got a pocket full of I/O loan docs for you to sign now

So turn off the lights and close the doors
But (but what) we don’t read them conditions, no!
So we gonna smoke a ounce to this
buy that condo before it becomes someone else’s

[Chorus: repeat 2X]

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back (with my mind on my money and my money on my mind)

[Verse Two:]

Now, that, I got me some Seagram’s gin
Everybody got they cups, but they ain’t chipped in
Now this types of sheet, happens all the time
We ain’t got no cash because the house value’s down

Everything is fine when you listenin to the mortgage guy
He had the deal that sounded very captivating to he
who listened, to the words that he speaked
And now forclosure has arrived cause the market has now peaked

and get to mackin this realt-Whore named Sadie (Sadie?)
She used to be the fanciest lady (Oh, that bitch)
Eighty degrees, when I tell that bitch please
Lower your prices otherwise I won’t let you lick these

At ease, as I reach the point where I acknowledge the bad deal
beeeitch, I’m just

[Chorus: repeat 2X]

Rollin down the street, smokin indo, sippin on gin and juice
Laid back (with my mind on my money and my money on my mind)

 
 
Comment by judicious1
2006-02-20 13:28:28

“beginning to cool” “slowdown” “an adjustment” “a souffle as opposed to a bubble bursting”…

I hope potential first-time buyers and “move-up” buyers in overheated markets can see through the sugar-coated descriptions of what’s just beginning to happen, not to mention the novice RE investors that are holding multiple residential properties.

Comment by Betamax
2006-02-20 13:34:44

The metaphor bubble is about to collapse like week-old sponge cake.

Comment by sfbayqt
2006-02-20 13:44:59

Yeech!! That sounds nasty just thinking about it.

BayQT~

 
Comment by KirkH
2006-02-20 13:59:36

I was going to go with “collapse like an aging realtor with a termite-ladden cane”

 
 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2006-02-20 13:37:26

“‘I would call it more of an adjustment,’ she said, adding that any deflation in the luxury market is better described as ‘a souffle as opposed to a bubble bursting.’”

And any good chef knows that occasionally Souffles fall, reducing their volume by 50%. Aren’t semantics fun when Realtors try using them ?

Comment by ajh
2006-02-20 23:14:14

And even a mediocre chef know you can’t make a souffle rise twice :).

 
 
Comment by Curt
2006-02-20 14:23:20

What’s with the thesaurus cooking words?

How about goose is cooked?

 
Comment by Auction Heaven in '07
2006-02-20 14:23:32

Oh my God. What an idiot I’ve been…

I could have gotten $100,000 off a $1,000,000 property in Long Beach.

Guess I didn’t move quickly enough on that one.

Comment by Tom
2006-02-20 14:36:14

That’s only $900,000 for a souffle. What a deal. The driveway is made out of caviar.

Comment by Mole Man
2006-02-20 17:34:48

That is so gross! But that is why the analogy works. When a souffle collapses something that probably took a lot of materials and work and represented the expectation of a tasty treat becomes instead a big mess that is not much good for anyone.

 
 
 
Comment by Melody
2006-02-20 14:52:09

Thanks to the loosest lending policies in history, it’s easy. Just throw all caution to the wind and buy the house using a zero-money-down or adjusted-rate mortgage loan!

See, once upon a time, your friends would have laughed at you for even suggesting it. Now it’s all the rage. More than half of new home sales now go to buyers who use these dangerous loan vehicles to buy.

Here’s another quick question: What investment market is five times bigger than the stock market… and could wipe out as much as 10 times more wealth than a complete stock market collapse?

The answer, of course, is real estate.

Comment by happy renter
2006-02-20 15:36:45

Are you saying that a ten percent drop in realestate nation wide would would be the equivalent of a complete stock market colapse.
Where did you get this from?

Comment by HOZ
2006-02-20 19:09:20

I have read that a 10% drop in RE = the total value of all listed stocks. So yes it would be worse than a stock market meltdown because it would EFFECT MORE PEOPLE. Not everybody wishes to be in stocks .
I fI can find the site that posted the economic data (the Economist I think) I will forward to Ben.

 
 
 
Comment by cereal
2006-02-20 15:27:38

i was listening to the money show on KNX this morning. the NAR is shaping a spin.

phoenix will shed blood
s florida will shed blood
vegas will shed blood.

the rest of us are ok. as if these 3 areas will atone for the sins of many.

or this could be cereal just testing a new propaganda theory on a boring monday at work when i’d rather be at home celebrating our presidents.

Comment by SB BubbleBeliever
2006-02-20 15:46:06

Hey Cereal,

Glad to hear someone is enjoying their day at work ;)

 
 
Comment by dawnal
2006-02-20 16:16:04

“He recently took over a four-bedroom, three-bathroom listing in Signal Hill that was on the market for six months with no offers. He knocked $100,000 off the $1.5 million asking price and it sold in 45 days.”
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See! It works.

Comment by Pismobear
2006-02-20 22:44:54

Page G13 of the Fresno Bee Feb 19, 2006 - Gigantic Banner - ‘HOUSING BUBBLE COULD BURST INTO FORECLOSURE’. Take that NAR and CAR shills.

 
Comment by ajh
2006-02-20 23:16:24

Someone has just caught a falling knife for $1.4 million.

 
 
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