June 15, 2017

Sellers Were Thinking This Is Their Lottery

A report from the Toronto Star in Canada. “When it comes to Toronto real estate, there are roughly two kinds of people: those who own a home in the city and fear (or vehemently doubt) that a crash is upon us, and those who don’t own a home in the city and pray with all their might that a crash is upon us. Those who did pull themselves up with little help made big sacrifices and big, complex, plans, along the way. For example, Sarah Larbi, a 33-year-old Toronto native who owns six houses with her common-law partner — one in Oakville, where the couple lives, and five in Brantford, which she rents out for $1,300 to $1,500 a month. She has been saving aggressively for several years to amass what is essentially a suburban empire.”

“Even though Larbi is presumably the last person to shy away from big risks, she isn’t willing to take an investment risk on Toronto real estate. ‘If I buy a house (in Toronto) and it’s a million dollars, let’s say, then you’ve got to make $10,000 a month (in rent) or something insane in order to make any money at the end,’ she says. ‘For me it doesn’t make sense because I’d have to do high, high management, like Airbnb, to even break even.Larbi’s advice? If you have an appetite for risk, consider investing in a property outside Toronto, where prices are cheaper, ‘and maybe you’ll be able to use the equity to buy something (in Toronto) later.’”

From Metro News. “Between 15,000 and 28,000 homes in Toronto sit empty amid the housing crisis, according to a new staff report exploring the possibility of a vacant-homes tax. City staff tried to determine the number of units held purely as investments. They arrived at their figure by looking at Toronto Hydro data on addresses where electricity and water hadn’t been used in a year. A City of Vancouver study using similar methods pegged the number of empty homes there at 10,800.”

“Cherise Burda, executive director of the Ryerson City Building Institute, is encouraged Toronto has taken this first step toward a tax that would incentivize people to rent out vacant homes. However, she believes the real number of empty units is much larger, as the new report doesn’t take into account places where hydro isn’t even hooked up. ‘We need to be building housing for our population, not for speculation,’ she said.”

From Better Dwelling. “Toronto real estate had a sudden surge last year, and we’re finally starting to get a better picture of what happened. New statistics released by the Toronto Real Estate Board (TREB) once again confirm everyone didn’t just wake up to a shortage of land overnight. Instead it appears that speculators saw a gold rush, adding pressure to prices that sent emotional buyers into a bidding frenzy.”

“A surprising number of properties in the city of Toronto have been bought and sold in less than a year. In 2016, TREB said it was ‘less than 5%’ but stopped short of giving a number. In just the first five months of 2017 however, it accounted for 7% of transactions. TREB called this ‘a very small share,’ but to give it context it’s about twice as large as Toronto’s luxury market. Also probably worth noting here that Toronto’s luxury market is considered one of the hottest in the world. In case you didn’t catch that, 7% of the properties that were sold *this year* were bought less than 12 months ago – right around when prices started taking off.”

“Sure, some might be informal landlords, but the cap rates don’t make economic sense. If you’re not familiar with the term, that means home prices in Toronto can’t be made up with rental income in an efficient way. Most purchases return around 2% in rental income, which means you’ll lose money on a mortgage annually. Meanwhile listings are soaring, as people try to exit. Toronto needs to continue building to prevent an actual housing crisis in the future, but if you still think land became scarce in Toronto overnight, good luck with that.”

The Globe and Mail. “Celebrations are still breaking out in houses and condos around the Toronto area as sellers stare down a real estate market decline that has extended from May into June. But while some clinch a deal at the price they were hoping for, less fortunate sellers have been hit severely by the shift in market dynamics. In Durham Region, east of Toronto, agent Shawn Lackie of Coldwell Banker-R.M.R Real Estate, says the overheated market of the early spring raised the expectations of sellers to unrealistic heights. ‘What it really did was throw a whole lot of gas on the fire for sellers – thinking they were going to cash in because this is their lottery.’”

“But listings suddenly surged after Ontario introduced policies in April aimed at cooling the housing market. Mr. Lackie recalls that listings had been trickling out and suddenly there were 138 new listings in one day. The following day there were another 85 by midafternoon. ‘Now, buyers have eight, 10, 14 different houses to look at.’”

“He’s also seen a lot of stress heaped on owners who signed a firm deal for another property, then delayed putting their existing home on the market in the hope of getting an even higher price later in the spring. This year, the strategy backfired for some. ‘It’s dangerous as hell, but people were running ahead and doing it,’ he says. ‘If you buy and sell in the same market, you’re going to be affected by all of the same factors. But they got cute. They’re the ones who have been bitten.’”

The Saskatoon Star Phoenix. “The pace of residential construction in Saskatoon fell off sharply in the first five months of the year, driven downward by a collapse in the number of new multi-family buildings under development, according to new data from the country’s mortgage insurer, the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp. The city’s apartment market is a different story. Vacancy rates remain well above the historic high of 10.3 per cent reported by the CMHC last November. Experts have said up to 18 per cent of the city’s apartments could be empty.”

The Financial Post. “Naheed Nenshi was first elected mayor of Calgary in 2010 when the iconic Bow tower was rising to re-top the city’s skyline, new companies were opening their doors, established ones were expanding and luxury retailers were setting up shop. Office vacancy in the city’s bustling core was so tight, ‘You couldn’t get space downtown for love or money,’ Nenshi recalled.”

“To fill the gap, skyscrapers were rapidly built — 10 million square feet between 2007 and 2016 — all underpinned by confidence in the future of Alberta’s oilsands and a business-friendly climate. But the expansion of Calgary’s commercial core, home to Canada’s second-largest concentration of head offices after Toronto, came to an abrupt halt when oil prices collapsed in late 2014. The fallout worsened as new governments muscled in with policies to accelerate the transition to green energy.”

“Massive layoffs, bankruptcies, consolidation and an efficiency drive at the oil and gas survivors reduced the downtown workforce by 40,000. Put another way, one in four Calgary office workers — and their workspaces — were no longer needed. Both Barclay Street Real Estate and Avison Young put the vacancy rate at 24 per cent, but it’s closer to 30 per cent for older buildings and projected to rise to 27 per cent later this year and remain high in 2018.”

“It’s estimated there is 13 to 14 million square feet of vacant space within Calgary’s striking cluster of glass towers. That’s equivalent to all the office space in downtown Vancouver. Many skyscrapers have completely empty floors. In others, just a handful of people occupy space where hundreds used to toil. ‘We went from essentially zero to almost 30 per cent (vacancy) in about 18 months,’ Nenshi said. ‘I love roller coasters, but this is too much.’”

From CTV News Vancouver. “B.C.’s anti-gang task force has arrested nine people following a year-long investigation into illegal gaming houses, money laundering, loan sharking and kidnapping. The Combined Forces Special Enforcement Unit said the criminal network behind the various operations has national and international ties, including to mainland China.”

“The probe was launched in May 2016 and ultimately led police to six different homes, which turned up ‘arge amounts of cash and bank drafts, drug paraphernalia, suitcases, cellphones, computers and other related material,’ the CFSEU said in a news release.”

From The Province. “Li Zhao, who is accused of murdering Chinese businessman Gang Yuan, has filed a claim in B.C. Supreme Court seeking a one-third share of the Yuan estate’s profits from the sale of 47 Saskatchewan farm properties. Zhao claims he and Yuan were in a joint-venture to develop Saskatchewan farmland, according to documents filed with the court last month.”

“A deal planned by Yuan’s company to sell the properties in Saskatchewan was near completion, Zhao’s claim states, when Yuan was found shot and cut into 100 pieces in his West Vancouver mansion on May 2, 2015. Zhao, 56, has pleaded not guilty to the second-degree murder of Yuan, 42.”

“In his criminal trial, a judge ruled this week that Zhao’s confession to West Vancouver police is admissible. The court heard that Zhao told police he and Yuan were in business together in an agricultural company and were having legal problems with the company. Zhao told police that following an argument with Yuan, who lived in his British Properties home with Zhao and Zhao’s wife, he fatally shot the victim and cut up his corpse with a saw.”

“While Zhao’s criminal trial continues, a number of civil claims are underway in B.C. courts, as Yuan’s relatives in China and Vancouver battle over his Canadian assets, including Saskatchewan farms and luxury properties in Vancouver, estimated to be worth about $50 million in 2015. In addition to his Canadian fortune, Yuan had mining interests in China. And according to a 2015 court verdict in southwestern China, Yuan was linked to a government corruption and bribery scandal that led to a 19-year jail term for an official named Yunye Lin.”




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Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-15 16:14:49

Sarah Larbi, a 33-year-old Toronto native who owns six houses with her common-law partner — one in Oakville, where the couple lives, and five in Brantford, which she rents out for $1,300 to $1,500 a month. She has been saving aggressively for several years to amass what is essentially a suburban empire.”

Sarah has no inkling she’s about to become a cautionary tale.

Comment by butters
2017-06-15 17:24:12

Rental watch would say there’s a strong demand for shelter.

LOL

Comment by Jingle Male
2017-06-16 03:00:38

I think Rental Watch is talking about California demand, not Toronto demand.

I must say demand in the Sacramento foothills is strong for rentals. I’ll find out about buyer demand next week, as I put a house on the market…..one no one wanted when I purchased it in 2009!

Comment by Professor Bear
2017-06-16 07:55:02

Doesn’t matter. It’s all toast once Uncle Fed gets serious about taking away the punch bowl.

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Comment by Jingle Male
2017-06-17 13:38:52

…and when do you believe that will happen? Hint: Never?

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-15 16:25:19

“Celebrations are still breaking out in houses and condos around the Toronto area as sellers stare down a real estate market decline that has extended from May into June. But while some clinch a deal at the price they were hoping for, less fortunate sellers have been hit severely by the shift in market dynamics.

Remember, knife-catchers, the second mouse gets the cheese.

I’ll buy at the coming foreclosure auctions. Not before.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 16:39:22

“Toronto needs to continue building to prevent an actual housing crisis in the future…

It does? I guess the city needs another 25,000 unoccupied properties.

I don’t often read Toronto-focused articles as I have no skin in the game, but really. The few articles posted here reveal the locals, and the local media, to be idiots.

I thought Canucks were supposed to be smarter than us lowly Americans.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-15 16:45:19

I don’t often read Toronto-focused articles as I have no skin in the game, but really. The few articles posted here reveal the locals, and the local media, to be idiots.

You don’t have to have skin in the game to realize that once the central bankers’ asset bubbles start imploding, it’s going to be a chain reaction.

The only question is which Keynesian house of cards is going to come tumbling down first. Because the rest will follow like dominoes.

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 19:42:04

What I’d really like to know and focus on is what other HBBers plan to do when the proverbial excrement hits the fan.

There’s much focus here on the present - and rightly so - but as a group, we tend to be rather short on discussion / strategizing in anticipation of the future.

I’m talking about pragmatics / practicalities, not some doomsday prepper crapola. There’s enough knee-jerk, histrionic behavior on display in many areas of society right now. I don’t think that’s what any of us here on HBB really needs.

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 19:44:44

Buy apartments in foreclosure.

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Comment by Jingle Male
2017-06-16 03:07:55

First, I have to sell the properties I bought in the last downturn. That will take a year and net about $800,000. Then I’ll be ready for the 2020 market correction.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-16 04:17:29

I’ve always wondered about the percentage of regulars on HBB who are investors versus those who are not.

I have no skin in the game. I’m under the impression that I am one of the few.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2017-06-16 10:00:28

I have no skin in the game but would buy if it made financial sense.

 
Comment by SW
2017-06-16 11:20:06

Macbeth,
I lost my shirt in the last downturn. I planned to get back in at the end of last year. But, after reading this blog i am holding out a bit longer.

I was planning to buy SFR but may buy apartments with what looks to be massive MFH carnage.

 
Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-16 15:59:23

Thank you for your honesty. It’s refreshing to see.

Whatever your plans and actions, I hope you succeed.

 
Comment by Jingle Male
2017-06-17 14:13:04

I wanted to buy a new home in 2005, but found this blog. Reading it convinced me to rent until 2008. I still got in too soon on my first house purchase, but did well on the next 5.

If you are looking for a good deal, it will be until at least 2020 for a new low. It takes a few years once the market turns and it has not turned yet.

 
 
Comment by Fang nu
2017-06-16 06:44:50

I’ll do nothing.
I’m not interested in buying flips or holds at the bottom and I have no need to sell.
If I do sell it is inconsequential. My balance sheet shows only post tax cash. Other assets are counted as a zero until converted to post cash tax. So… My supposed million dollar can sell for one hundred thousand and there is no whining from me. A fifty thousand dollar vehicle can fall out of favor and become a three thousand dollar sled…No whining from me.
I did not base my financial future on gambling and whims.

I don’t need to ‘make money’ on my sticks and stuffs.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2017-06-16 08:00:04

I’ll do nothing different. My modest house and boat are not investments. I will run them and myself into the ground together, and spend my saved money doing so. Falling prices of everything is beneficial.

I haven’t been playing credit roulette, so I have no prize to cash in on before lights out.

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Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-16 16:03:58

I’ve always found you inspiring, Blue.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 16:48:40

The article mentions these empty shacks/airboxes are a year of inventory. Maybe the hottest market on the planet three months ago.

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 19:56:52

A rather minor stoppage of Toronto’s Keynesian tap, and the housing market responds as if it were a cat tossed into a bathtub full of water.

Yet there is no bubble.

There is no real demand, Toronto. Get it through your thick heads.

 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-15 18:51:43

I thought Canucks were supposed to be smarter than us lowly Americans.

not necessarily smarter, just saner, more sensible

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 19:32:48

‘If I buy a house (in Toronto) and it’s a million dollars, let’s say, then you’ve got to make $10,000 a month (in rent) or something insane in order to make any money at the end’

 
Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 19:59:57

Toronto, Vancouver, Calgary.

Just where is “just saner, more sensible” Mighty Mike?

Yellowknife?

Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-15 20:17:02

I suppose that I could answer Halifax, Montreal, and Winnipeg.

More importantly, America has the same insanity going on in many cities and states. So you have to exclude real estate from the sanity comparison.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-16 05:08:38

‘So you have to…’

Always telling people what to think, not to think. Persuasion is more meaningful.

 
Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-16 06:36:16

The Comrades of Proven Worth are not inclined to persuade.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2017-06-16 06:58:35

The Comrades of Proven Worth

The problem with being a “Comrade of Proven Worth” is that history shows that the “Proven Worth” part often evaporates when the next purge happens and you suddenly find yourself in a reeducation camp or worse, in front of a firing squad.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-16 07:14:24

It’s just a choice of words. I could have expressed the exact same sentiment with slightly different words.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2017-06-16 08:04:31

“…the sanity comparison”

Aren’t those Canadians among the most indebted folks on earth? That’s unsane.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-16 09:12:41

We all know that the debts will never be repaid.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2017-06-16 09:31:48

Always telling people what to think, not to think.

A leftist’s hallmark. And why persuade, when you can wear masks and threaten people who disagree with you with baseball bats and knives?

http://narrative-collapse.com/2017/06/15/evergreen-suspends-classes-as-masked-leftists-assault-people/

American college campuses are starting to resemble communist reeducation camps.

 
 
 
 
Comment by barry
2017-06-17 12:25:10

Toronto is very confusing as the # of condos were a primary growth area this cycle.

People hang on to condos - and ask family members/friends to stay there at deep discounts.

So these young folks in their 20’s and 30’s are not saving as if they were staying in cheaper rentals instead of a luxury appt. I have distant relatives where the parents then came in an bought a bunch of furniture for the kids as they were in a luxury place. What a mess

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 16:43:27

‘If I buy a house (in Toronto) and it’s a million dollars, let’s say, then you’ve got to make $10,000 a month (in rent) or something insane in order to make any money at the end’

Which is exactly what these people are doing two at a time.

‘listings had been trickling out and suddenly there were 138 new listings in one day. The following day there were another 85 by midafternoon. ‘Now, buyers have eight, 10, 14 different houses to look at.’

‘He’s also seen a lot of stress heaped on owners who signed a firm deal for another property, then delayed putting their existing home on the market in the hope of getting an even higher price later in the spring. This year, the strategy backfired for some. ‘It’s dangerous as hell, but people were running ahead and doing it,’ he says. ‘If you buy and sell in the same market, you’re going to be affected by all of the same factors. But they got cute. They’re the ones who have been bitten.’

Where else have we seen accidental landlords lately? Manhattan, with speculators flooding the market with $40,000 rentals.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-15 16:48:38

Ben, you naysaying so-and-so, the thing you fail to understand is that it’s different here (fill in blank).

If there were cause for alarm, surely the MSM would’ve alerted us by now.

(Shakes head in bemusement) Silly Ben and his HBB doom-mongers….

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 16:55:23

Maybe so but I’m not wrestling two million dollar alligators right now.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-06-15 16:53:45

‘he fatally shot the victim and cut up his corpse with a saw’

Into 100 pieces.

Comment by Raymond K Hessel
2017-06-15 16:56:36

Seems excessive.

Enjoy your new citizens, Canada.

 
Comment by whirlyite
2017-06-15 18:54:24

That’s the best definition of chutzpah I’ve ever seen!

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 20:05:55

Thanks for the reminder. I have been planning to watch Fargo again. Great movie, and it’s been a while.

 
 
Comment by Karen
2017-06-15 21:22:46

Someone was a little bit angry

 
 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-15 18:20:34

Google’s Moffett Field modular apartment plan hailed as possible housing crisis fix

MOUNTAIN VIEW — With rental costs skyrocketing and homes out of reach for many, Google has hit on a solution that may help it attract workers to the crushingly expensive Bay Area.

The tech giant plans to buy 300 units of modular housing to serve as temporary employee accommodations on its planned “Bay View” campus at NASA’s Moffett Field, according to a source familiar with the plan.

Experts heralded the move as not only good for Google, but as a potential template for others to follow as the high cost of construction combined with expensive real estate make affordable housing hard to come by.

Google’s move with prefabricated units is seen as a small but promising step toward solving the region’s housing crisis.

“That’s definitely a really great start,” said Wayne Chen, city of Mountain View housing and neighborhood services manager. “Any time we can find innovative ways to address the housing crisis is an opportunity that we really welcome.”

The Bay View project, which has been in the works for several years but plagued by delays, will consist of three large office buildings totaling about 600,000 square feet, according to a site assessment issued by NASA in July. It’s unclear when the project will be completed.

Google, which recently said it was finding it easier to hire people in Seattle than in the Bay Area because of this region’s sky-high housing costs, plans apartment-style, modular units at the Bay View campus. The company is also planning two additional campuses, massive developments in San Jose and Mountain View.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/14/googles-moffett-field-modular-apartment-plan-hailed-as-possible-housing-crisis-fix/

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 20:04:24

Move to the Bay Area and reduce your standard of living!

Sounds like a plan. Where do I sign up?

Can I bring my own refrigerator box?

 
Comment by sod
2017-06-15 20:09:44

“The housing crisis and the way that housing costs have risen requires cities and regions, the Bay Area specifically, to come up with alternate options that are creative and that are potentially less expensive,” Goss said. “People are excited about prefab housing — it’s a great option.”

Potentially. Typical. Rather than address the problem just admit defeat and come up with “solution” that might be less expensive in total dollars but probably not in dollars per square foot. Redefine people’s expectations by lowering them and then devise a product to meet the lower standard.

Same with healthcare. Don’t try to address spiraling costs or explain why you can’t get an estimate for a procedure before hand, come up with some new, overly complicated insurance scheme as a stepping stone to single payer.

Same with education. Same with taxes.

Google is really cutting edge here. Sergey must have been cleaning out his attic and saw a picture of a prefab house in a Sears catalog from the turn of the century.

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-15 20:43:41

Yeah. Ain’t it grand?

Google. A prime example of the rich getting richer at the expense of everyone else. Aristocrats and their fawning underclass.

Funny thing is that I remember a time not so long ago when democrats were vehemently against this sort of thing.

Alas, democrats have been wiped out, replaced by progressives and socialists.

What’s that old saw about power corrupting absolutely?

Comment by MightyMike
2017-06-16 07:18:41

Google’s wealth is partly due to the fact that it’s a near monopoly. Republicans also used to be “against this sort of thing.” Teddy Roosevelt broke up a lot of monopolies. He did that back in the period known as the Progressive Era.

The most prominent progressive of 2017, Bernie Sanders, spends a lot of time complaining about widening inequality.

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Comment by sod
2017-06-16 19:32:09

On this we agree.

 
Comment by Avg Joe
2017-06-18 09:05:36

What monopoly are you talking about? They have, at best, 60% of the search market. They give away Android for free.

 
 
 
 
Comment by SLynsns
2017-06-16 01:07:38

Ugh. I hate this kind of news. We already have low, cost, modular units in mountain view. RVs. Parked on the streets.

Google’s locals plans are always about office space for THOUSANDS of people. A piddly 300 units of “temporary” accommodation is likely to be used for their employees only coming in to train for a few months - will eventually read the article. It won’t relieve housing pressure on locals. Or traffic. They do what they need to to get their plans approved. They don’t “innovate” in the community.

Comment by MacBeth
2017-06-16 04:09:29

So it’s as if Google is adding temporary classrooms to the local scene?

That’s a news story? Why not a story about construction of a local jail as a “solution” to the housing “shortage”?

Comment by butters
2017-06-16 07:52:30

Free food, free laundry, free entertainment and now low cost bed. The ‘employees’ don’t have to go anywhere and with the time saved, they can just code, right? See how evil the Googs are.

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Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 08:00:25

Does anyone have a link to the video from PBS that shows all the vans and RVs parked along the streets with people in residence?

I tried to find it this morning, but it appears to not be available anymore. Hmm.

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Comment by whirlyite
Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 08:07:14

At least they’re trying to provide housing for their workers. Compare that to agricultural concerns who dump their imported workers, legal and illegal, on the taxpayers.

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Comment by butters
2017-06-16 05:30:11

THERE IS NO HOUSING CRISIS

 
Comment by Fang nu
2017-06-16 06:53:25

Serfdom.
I owe my soul to the company store.
Can never afford to move, can never afford to quit.
Cube farms for personal use.
When socialists did this in the ussr we were in a full blown uproar about the inhumanity.
We poke a macabre bit of fun at Hong Kong high rises where people have not had to sleeve the building g for the last 20 years.
Dickens Plaza
Would be a good name for it.

 
 
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2017-06-16 06:35:28
 
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Comment by Professor Bear
2017-06-16 06:46:41

Oh bugger…everything is coming up onions!

US Dollar
US dollar, Treasury yields slip after housing data
fastFT
Dollar erases losses after Yellen signals tightening will continue
an hour ago
by: Adam Samson

The US dollar and Treasury yields declined modestly on Friday on the back of a disappointing reading on the housing market.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 07:39:16

Y’know, the man has a point. Why would someone recommend firing Comey, and then turn around and appoint a special prosecutor to investigate whether firing Comey was an obstruction of justice???

Yep, through the looking glass all right.

Comment by butters
2017-06-16 08:12:56

I don’t know why anyone pay attention to these clowns.

All it does is bolsters Tump’s main point that the Government as is DOESN”T work for the people.

Collapse is the only way.

Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 08:22:07

You haven’t seen the latest. Rumor is, the Deputy AG is now going to recuse himself from the whole thing that he engineered.

My take is that Senator Cotton dealt the death blow to the Russian investigation during the Sessions hearing, when he illustrated, with his comparison to popular spy novels, the total ridiculousness of the whole thing. That was it, that was ball game. (Sick pun not intended)

At that point, bolstered by the ball game shooting, Congress lost their appetite for the Russian investigation. But wait, we’ve got this special prosecutor over here, what do we do with him? Obstruction! That’s the ticket. And then the man points out on his twitter how ridiculous THAT is and why. Ooopsie! So now the Dep AG may recuse himself. Instead of ringing down the curtain.

What’s that old saying about when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging?

Comment by butters
2017-06-16 08:26:32

I have said it before and I will say it again.

This country is in civil war. Sure the weapon of choice is the ‘law’ right now, but guns will follow soon.

Emigrate while you can.

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Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 08:42:22

“guns will follow soon.”

This “civil war” thing is a media trope, an attempt to force what is essentially an attempted establishment/globalist coup down onto the people. Eff that. I ain’t playin’. Neither should you.

 
Comment by butters
2017-06-16 10:08:01

I will play it. I can’t ignore my lying eyes.

 
Comment by snake charmer
2017-06-16 11:56:56

Emigrate to where? I was amused by that article last year on financiers and tech moguls with their doomsteads in New Zealand, as if they could wait out social chaos in comfort and then resume their lives of wealth and influence once the smoke cleared. Rather than use their money to set up a remote luxury escape location, they should buy some perspective.

 
 
Comment by butters
2017-06-16 08:27:33

AKA ungovernable $hithole.

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Comment by rms
2017-06-16 12:19:54

“At that point, bolstered by the ball game shooting…”

I haven’t heard Chuck Schumer bleating his semi-automatic, pistol grip, banana magazine, bayonet lug, flash suppressor, etc., civilian weapon sermon yet. What’s up?

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Comment by Professor Bear
2017-06-16 07:57:37

Did Uncle Fed just pop the Bitcoin bubble?

Bitcoin bubble bursts as cryptocurrency plunges nearly 20 per cent
Lily Katz, Bloomberg News
Thursday, Jun. 15, 2017
Chris Ratcliffe/Bloomberg

Bitcoin sunk as much as 19 per cent, putting the digital currency on pace for its worst week since January 2015, as volatility climbs following a record-setting surge in the price.

After flirting with US$3,000 on Monday, the cryptocurrency has retreated to as low as US$2,076.16 in intraday trading. Other digital coins are also falling. The decline coincides with a slide in technology stocks that began after a report from Goldman Sachs Group Inc. warned that low volatility in the biggest tech stocks may be blinding investors to risks like cyclicality and regulation.

Comment by palmetto
2017-06-16 08:03:30

Hasn’t bitcoin and other crypto been subject to boom and bust almost from the start? In that respect, I guess it is no different than many other “investments”.

 
 
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