August 28, 2017

Attacking Motherhood And Apple Pie

A report from the Los Angeles Times in California. “For decades, the ability to deduct the interest on a home mortgage has been one of the most untouchable sacred cows of the tax code. It is particularly revered in Los Angeles and other areas with high real estate prices, where the annual tax savings can be the difference between being able to afford a house or continuing to rent. Now, Republicans crafting legislation to overhaul the federal tax system and cut rates are considering placing new limits on the home mortgage interest deduction. And thousands of Californians could feel the pain.”

“The move comes as GOP lawmakers and Trump administration officials already have proposed killing another break — the deductibility of state and local taxes — that benefits California residents more than those in any other state. The housing industry strongly opposes efforts to place new restrictions on the deduction, arguing that would lead to lower housing prices because there would be less of a financial incentive to buy instead of rent. At the same time, Democrats from California and other states with high housing prices are gearing up to fight any change.”

“‘I think that harming the ability for Americans to own their home is like attacking motherhood and apple pie,’ said Rep. Judy Chu (D-Monterey Park), whose district includes Pasadena and much of the San Gabriel Valley. ‘I represent a district with homes that are very high-cost, so they have even more reason to be concerned about it,’ Chu said.”

“Diane Yentel, president of the National Low Income Housing Coalition, which advocates for more affordable housing, said the ability to deduct interest on mortgages as large as $1 million means the provision benefits mostly upper-income households. ‘We’re paying about $10.5 billion a year to subsidize the homes of some of the wealthiest people in the world at the same time that we have hundreds of thousands of people with no homes at all,’ she said.”

The Northport Patch. “Three senior executives at a Long Island mortgage lender were arrested for their role in committing a $8.9 million fraud, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office. Edward E. Bohm, 39, of Nissequogue, Edward J. Sypher, Jr., 40, of Scarsdale and Matthew T. Voss, 42, of Norhtport, all senior executives at Vanguard Funding, LLC (Vanguard), were charged with conspiracy to commit wire and bank fraud by using millions of dollars in warehouse loans for Vanguard to fund mortgages, according to the U.S. Attorney.”

“The trio misused the loans to pay personal expenses and compensation, as well as to repay earlier fraudulently obtained loans, the U.S. Attorney said. Between August 2016 and March 2017, Voss, Vanguard’s COO, Sypher, the CFO, and Bohm, the president of sales, engaged in a scheme in which they obtained warehouse loans, or short-term loans, for the company by falsely representing that Vanguard would use the proceeds of those loans to fund mortgages or mortgage refinancing for clients, the U.S. Attorney said. ‘At the end of the day, the s— we did wasn’t to the public,’ Bohm said in part, according to the complaint.”

“‘As alleged, the defendants – executives of a mortgage lender – defrauded banks into lending them money by stating that the money would fund new mortgages or refinance existing ones,’ Acting United States Attorney Bridget Rohde said. ‘We will continue to address dishonesty in the mortgage industry whether the victims are financial institutions, investors, or homeowners, as it ultimately hurts all of us as a community.’”

The Ambler Gazette in Pennsylvania. “A Blue Bell man was indicted Aug. 23 for carrying out an alleged scheme to defraud the federal government by providing inflated appraisals of properties seeking to obtain Home Equity Conversion Mortgages. Eugene Peter Kenworthy Jr., 50, was indicted on charges of wire fraud, false statements for the purpose of influencing the Federal Housing Administration, aggravated identity theft, and failure to file a tax return, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.”

“HECM loans, commonly referred to as reverse mortgages, are insured by the Federal Housing Authority, the indictment states. When a borrower, or estate, sells a property on which an HECM loan was taken, if the proceeds of the sale are insufficient to repay the loan, the FHA pays the lender the deficit. Kenworthy allegedly inflated the appraisals of properties for which he submitted reports to certify the HECM loans, resulting in the payment of more than $3 million by the FHA to cover loans that went into default. The charges against him grew out of a grand jury investigation, according to the indictment.”

“From 2010 to 2016, Kenworthy appraised approximately 714 properties, which were the subject of applications for reverse mortgages, using the electronic signatures of five certified real estate appraisers, without their knowledge, to certify 294 appraisal reports he wrote for the HECM loans, the indictment says. He used his own signature to certify the other 420 appraisal reports he wrote, it says.”

“Kenworthy wrote most of the appraisals for one mortgage broker, which paid him, or his appraisal company, approximately $450 per appraisal, the indictment says. In some of the appraisal reports he wrote for the reverse mortgages, he falsely inflated valuations for the properties, which, in turn, fraudulently inflated the loan amount, it says. Numerous properties he wrote appraisal reports for went into foreclosure, the indictment says.”

The Palm Beach Post in Florida. “After a scorching June, Palm Beach County’s housing market cooled a bit in July. Housing statistics continued to send mixed signals. The houses that did sell moved briskly, needing a median of just 37 days to go under contract. That was down from 43 days a year ago. Meanwhile, sellers of entry-level houses command strong interest in their properties. The typical home priced at $200,000 to $250,000 found a buyer in just 23 days. ‘Those still are flying off the shelf, but not everything is,’ said Jackie Ellis, owner of Keller Williams Realty offices in Boynton Beach and Boca Raton.”

“Homes priced at more than $1 million needed 113 days to sell. The July slowdown — which came despite low mortgage rates and a strong job market in Palm Beach County — was a bit of a head-scratcher. Typically June and July are the busiest months of the year for house sales, as families try to get settled in before school starts. ‘Usually this is our big summer season,’ Ellis said.”

“Realtors see a slight uptick in choices for buyers. The inventory of active listings rose 7,086, up 1.9 percent from a year ago. ‘The recent statistics indicate signs of a more balanced market, which includes a slight increase in inventory. This is something we have not seen in a while,’ said Jeffrey Levine, first vice president of the Realtors of the Palm Beaches and Greater Fort Lauderdale.”

The Aspen Daily News in Colorado. “With the current economic expansion in its eighth year, are there early warning signs that the real estate market, particularly for high-end luxury homes, may be in for a correction? This economic expansion is one of the longest on record. Since the Great Recession bottomed in 2009, luxury real estate around the world has experienced a phenomenal increase in value, setting all-time records for volume, price per square foot and overall size of transactions. We’ve experienced this in Aspen as prices are again at record levels.”

“By studying patterns prior to past real estate downturns, we might see signs that are replaying in the current market. Leading up to the Great Recession, the country experienced seven years of economic growth after the dot.com crash and recession of the early 2000s. Real estate markets that don’t fare well in a downturn have one thing in common; there is generally no constraint on supply leading up to the point where the demand ceases. This led to a huge inventory overhang as the market slowed. The supply and demand equation took over when the demand side of the equation slowed dramatically and real estate prices plummeted.”

“In the current Aspen luxury home market are we starting to see a similar pattern? There have been roughly 27 sales of luxury homes in the Aspen-Snowmass market over $10 million in value in the past 18 months. Of those sales roughly eight were spec homes delivered to the market in 2016 and the first half of 2017. Currently, about 120 homes priced over $10 million are listed for sale of which about 29 are new spec homes.”

“If we stopped delivering new homes to the market right now and absorption continues at its current pace, it could take three or more years for all new spec homes to be sold and four-plus years for all homes listed over $10 million to be sold. If for some unforeseen reason, the absorption rate was to decline dramatically like it did in 2008-2009, those time frames could easily double. That could lead to significant downward pressure on prices at least for the over- $10 million segment of the market.”

From The Real Deal on New York. “For some who’ve opted to sell, the results have been grim — particularly in buildings that debuted at the top of the cycle. Financial losses have spanned the borough and have spared few. Leonardo DiCaprio, for example, paid $10 million in 2014 for a unit in Delos at 66 East 11th Street — a green condo with ‘wellness’ amenities like purified air, posture-supportive flooring and Vitamin C-infused showers — only to resell it for $8 million late last year.”

“And the list goes on. Two owners at One57 TRData LogoTINY — Nigerian oil magnate Kola Aluko and business executive Sheri Izadpanah — are facing foreclosure. Even 15 Central Park West, the so-called Limestone Jesus, which has been largely immune from losses, hasn’t been unscathed. Late last year, an owner who bought a three-bedroom under the name Westside RE Properties LLC sold for $20.6 million, about $3 million less than the 2012 purchase price.”

“Compass’s Leonard Steinberg, who brokered the Charles Street deal, said while it may seem nonsensical for wealthy owners to sell for a loss, in some cases it makes more economic sense than holding on to a property. ‘When you pay an extreme price in an extreme market and you don’t hold on to that property for a long time, you can hit the market when it’s not extreme,’ he said. ‘You have to be patient. For some people, taking a loss is better than having to pay debt service.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 09:27:44

‘The housing industry strongly opposes efforts to place new restrictions on the deduction, arguing that would lead to lower housing prices because there would be less of a financial incentive to buy instead of rent’

Wa? I thought every man, woman and legislator were being drafted to lower shack prices in California? And here we find a simple cut in tax policy could achieve the same result without build, build, BUILD!

I mean, it’s the same outcome.

Comment by Lesser Fool
2017-08-28 14:28:16

arguing that would lead to lower housing prices because there would be less of a financial incentive to buy instead of rent

But wouldn’t lower housing prices lead to MORE of a financial incentive to buy instead of rent?

Comment by Carl Morris
2017-08-28 14:39:49

Notice that their wording implies the incentive is the symptom but the lower prices are the true disaster that must be avoided.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2017-08-28 14:47:41

Yet the irony is dramatically lower prices is the solution to this disaster.

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-28 19:24:25

In a state where Democrat-sponsored land restrictions make new construction terribly expensive, tax law changes plus restrictions on foreign money launderers’ ability to buy residential real estate may be the only viable path to restore affordability.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-28 20:00:08

I am guessing that the Democratic legislators coming out against these policies are all homeowners. They are merely talking their book.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 09:31:22

‘Home values are steadily on the rise in Solano County, finally climbing to the point of where they were at just prior to the 2008 economic crash. That is a glass-half-full and glass-half-empty debate, as many in the industry can only speculate what those values might have been had there never been a Great Recession.’

‘It is also, one Realtor argued, spilt milk.’

‘The bigger issue for the industry is the lack of inventory to sell, and the growing concern that fewer and fewer Californians – and Solano County residents specifically – can afford to purchase the generally higher-priced homes that are on the market.’

‘According to the second quarter Housing Affordability Report released Aug. 9 by the California Association of Realtors, only 29 percent of California households could afford to purchase the median-priced home at $553,260. That is down from the 32 percent reported in the first-quarter of 2017 and down from the 31 percent in the second-quarter of 2016.’

‘The median price for homes in Solano County, according to June data from the California Association of Realtors, was $420,000, up 1.2 percent from May and up 7.7 percent from June 2016. The Realtors group also reports that on a year-to-year basis, it is taking longer to sell the homes that are on the market.’

‘The median income for Solano County in 2016, according to ZeroDownCalifornia.com, was $77,609.’

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 09:33:24

Getting statistics from zero down California has got to signify something.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 09:37:11

‘If we stopped delivering new homes to the market right now and absorption continues at its current pace, it could take three or more years for all new spec homes to be sold and four-plus years for all homes listed over $10 million to be sold. If for some unforeseen reason, the absorption rate was to decline dramatically like it did in 2008-2009, those time frames could easily double.’

The absorption rate is kinda lame right now.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 09:43:26

‘it may seem nonsensical for wealthy owners to sell for a loss, in some cases it makes more economic sense than holding on to a property. ‘When you pay an extreme price in an extreme market and you don’t hold on to that property for a long time, you can hit the market when it’s not extreme,’ he said. ‘You have to be patient. For some people, taking a loss is better than having to pay debt service.’

Debt?

Comment by Mr. Banker
2017-08-28 10:01:43

A wealthy puke isn’t necessarily a liquid puke. Debt can magically transform illiquid wealth into spendable cash (for a hefty fee, of course).

(snort)

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 10:54:25

My experience in Flagstaff was that well off shack gamblers are the first to bail on borrowed money.

Comment by Robert
2017-08-28 15:45:15

Inventory is thin and little value buying now from the sparse inflated offerings here in Flagstaff, Verde Valley or Prescott/Prescott Valley. A lot of would-be buyers are languishing in rentals which cost thirty percent more than they did just five years ago. This situation and mediocre fixed income investments that pay enough to keep from losing value from inflation are big concerns for middle age and older savers. Few want to add uncertain risk among their pre-retirement investments for corporate bonds or such for maybe an extra half a percent, or buy a house near market top only to maybe see home prices go sideways (or worse drop) through their retirement years.

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-28 19:45:08

“…buy a house near market top only to maybe see home prices go sideways (or worse drop) through their retirement years.”

As Ben suggests, wouldn’t most folks just walk away in that case?

 
 
Comment by Ol'Bubba
2017-08-28 18:36:30

Is Arizona a non-recourse state for owner-occupied first mortgages?

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2017-08-28 10:17:08

“Debt?”

Wait. Debt? Debt Donkeys? Housing?

Not wealthy. Debt. Losses. Poverty. No wealth.

 
 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2017-08-28 10:26:34

“Deadliest outbreak of hepatitis A in decades kills 14 in San Diego”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/28/hepatitis-a-san-diego-deaths

Crime, poverty and now outbreaks of communicable diseases in our nation’s poorest state.

Comment by komakid
2017-08-28 11:29:20

What a bizarre economy we’re in - thousands upon thousands of empty homes and condos that people “invest” in to get “rich” while the homeless live within sight of these empty boxes and are dying from third world diseases.

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-28 12:08:18

It is bizarre. And in the midst of the longest “recovery”, record stock and shack prices. The so-called wealth effect should be off the charts. Interesting that the media doesn’t ask, how could this be?

Comment by junior_kai
2017-08-28 17:27:31

How many divorces and how much drug and alcohol abuse is masking depression due to keeping up with the joneses (but not Ben Jones, lol!)?

And we all know who the (((media))) is owned by. Truth is treason in an economy/empire of lies.

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2017-08-28 18:15:15

“How many divorces and how much drug and alcohol abuse is masking depression due to keeping up with the joneses”

“… keeping up with the joneses”

Sounds a wee bit like a choice or a whole bunch of choices.

Lemmings.

 
 
 
Comment by Mike
2017-08-28 14:18:21

this is the untold story - the human suffering that results from asset bubbles. People spending more than 50% of income on rent or mortgages, ever rising health care costs. Before you know it, people are dying…

Trump’s latest (mis)tweets is headlined but the ordinary suffering of many is trivia, not worth the ink

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2017-08-28 10:40:12

So where will the folks in Houston be going?

Here’s the late great Glen Campbell to tell you all about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCoUqU4gg3Q

Comment by palmetto
2017-08-28 11:35:15

They’ll also be going here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNbp-mkKPCI

 
 
Comment by shenami
2017-08-28 10:51:13

I have lived in Rep. Judy Chu’s district most of my life, and from the ground level it is clear that a good chunk of buyers these days are of the buy-to-let variety. A house a few blocks from my neighborhood sold for 848,000 this month, and now they want 3,600/mo rent for it. Really makes me laugh, as there are several houses a mile or two away renting for about the same amount, but with MUCH better schools in quieter and more prestigious neighborhoods. Yellen bucks finding their final resting spots?

We currently rent a SFH about the same size in a nicer neighborhood with larger lot, for only 2,500/mo. Though we theoretically qualify for $1M mortgage range based on income and credit, we are very happy to rent while the house humpers bleed each other dry in their bidding wars. Chinese “all-cash” buyers have been a force in Rep. Chu’s district for a while, though they’ve been drying up the last few months according to a friend who runs a local RE brokerage. Funny to have seen one of his employees was quoted by the LA Times - “‘All agents are crying that the money isn’t coming,’ said Sanne Lee, an agent for A + Realty & Mortgage in Rowland Heights” - which HBB seems to have picked up http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=10006. When I asked him about this last I saw him, he was suspiciously evasive about the topic :)

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2017-08-28 11:54:04

It’s good to see some understand the fact that renting is half the cost of buying at current grossly inflated asking prices of resale housing. Clearly you are one of them.

 
 
Comment by taxpayer
2017-08-28 12:14:16

Diane Yentel,

sounds like a good time

500,000 cap wouldn’t bother many

 
Comment by Taxpayers
2017-08-28 15:44:28

decreased by $1,554 in the last 30 days.

Zillow is O-pressin me,yo

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2017-08-28 16:19:35

Prescott Valley, AZ Housing Prices CRATER 16% YOY

http://www.movoto.com/prescott-valley-az/market-trends/

 
Comment by Patrick
2017-08-28 16:37:53

I hope all you Texans and Louisianans are safe over the coming days.

I once was in Galveston and Houston area and always have described it as two inches above sea level.

I enjoyed my visit 30 years ago and have always looked forward to going back.

Stay safe.

Comment by rms
2017-08-28 21:56:40

“I once was in Galveston and Houston area and always have described it as two inches above sea level.”

The gulf’s heat and humidity take some getting used to, but the warm shallow water and no waves are so foreign to me having lived on California’s pacific coast.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2017-08-28 17:48:49

is everyone as mesmerized over the houston floodings i am ?

people coming from all over boats, air boats, Caterpillar dump trucks high water vehicles ……..I hope all Americans learn from this, people helping people not like the helpless losers/looters of the last couple of storms blaming the president or government….

http://abc13.com/live/

Comment by palmetto
2017-08-28 18:10:19

Yes, there does seem to be quite a different spirit in Houston as opposed to New Orleans, for example. Way less of a paralyzed chaotic victim vibe, more like grit your teeth and git ‘er done.

Frankly, from what I’m reading, much of the real work is being done by the people themselves, with local goobermint clods just sort of looking on.

That’s Texas. The people, I mean. Not the goobermint clods.

Comment by aNYCdj
2017-08-28 19:44:52

1041 pm 15 people carried with a baby in a Deere front loader in the rain….

ok blame trump for a new American sprit.

Comment by palmetto
2017-08-28 20:13:59

That’s a Texas spirit. It comes from the people. With or without Trump.

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2017-08-29 08:04:00

Was the front loader equipped with seat belts for each and every passenger? Was the driver of the front loader trained properly for such a task? Did he have a proper license for to transport even one passenger?

How many laws could this person have broken and what is a suitable punishment?

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Comment by tj
2017-08-29 08:25:08

well done.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-08-29 09:50:44

Those are some fascinating and pointless questions there. I’m sure that your fellow bankers appreciate you posing them.

 
Comment by tj
2017-08-29 11:38:16

mikey no likey freedom. mikey like lots of regs so people can be charged fines when they don’t do what mikey likey.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-08-29 11:51:46

You have no evidence to back up that assertion.

 
Comment by tj
2017-08-29 12:16:03

“you’ve been putting it up your whole life.. you just didn’t know it.”

-a. chigur

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-08-29 13:11:50

As I stated, you have no evidence, no basis, nothing. Your mind is a vast wasteland.

 
Comment by tj
2017-08-29 14:17:06

no evidence? did you become a conservative while i was gone? because if not, you’re the same little leftist as before. and if that’s true, you, like all leftists, love taxes and regs.

 
Comment by MightyMike
2017-08-29 15:00:48

That’s not evidence either. What’s a leftist and where’s the evidence that I’m a leftist?

 
Comment by tj
2017-08-29 15:37:37

that’s rich.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2017-08-29 10:55:24

That’s Texas. Yup, even megamillionaire Joel Osteen opened his basketball-arena church as a shelter … after significant chiding on social media. My guess is he’ll recoup the costs with by writing a motivational book about the experience.

 
 
Comment by jeff
2017-08-28 19:49:10

We got hit with Jeanne and Frances in 2004 and although we did not have flooding we did have property damage and were without power for a couple of weeks each storm which meant no open gas stations or grocery stores. Most were prepared to go that long (that is what you are told to be prepared for).

Those of us that could helped the elderly and single Moms who needed it. The government did show up at a park somewhere in the form of the National Guard handing out warm water bottles and MREs about 11 days in (my wife took the kids just to go somewhere) but it sure would have been a drag if you were counting on that to survive.

Comment by drumminj
2017-08-28 21:04:02

he National Guard handing out warm water bottles and MREs about 11 days in

A good reminder regarding basic disaster preparedness — even if FEMA, National Guard, etc, show up, it’s going to take days for them to mobilize and you likely won’t be the target of the first wave of aid.

Have water at home to last you for 3 days minimum, ideally at least 7. Get a costco bag of nuts, a big ol’ jar of peanutbutter, maybe a camp stove and some freeze-dried meals and you have a chance of being ‘comfortable’ until relief orgs can get up and running.

(And remember to have the same for your pets! I suppose for your kids too, if that’s your thing…)

Comment by jeff
2017-08-28 21:49:48

“until relief orgs can get up and running.”

When the power goes on, the grocery stores and the gas stations open and the trucks line up to restock the stores, the true power of this country can be seen.

The “relief orgs” can hand out band-aids and checks but they are not the engine that makes the machine go. I remember being in awe of watching the Region come back to life.

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2017-08-29 06:14:34

Those that can, do.

Everybody involved may be driven by their own reasons but ultimately they get whatever that needs to be done, done.

 
Comment by rms
2017-08-29 07:16:28

“When the power goes on…”

Indeed. No power means no clean water, no sanitation, etc., basically hell on earth for any crowded place. Infrastructure is not well understood… until it doesn’t work.

 
Comment by oxide
2017-08-29 11:00:20

the true power of this country can be seen

I remember you using the same phrase some years ago .. “I witnessed the true power of this country” something like that. I’n not a hard-core capitalist by any means, but private sector absolutely EXCELS at logistics and supply chain.

 
Comment by drumminj
2017-08-29 18:36:43

To be clear, my intent wasn’t to put forth Red Cross, FEMA, or National Guard as the saviors or anything.

Just pointing out that the “first wave” of relief isn’t there immediately, and you should expect to be on your own (or reliant on helpful neighbors) the first 72 hours.

I highly recommend anyone interested in “being prepared” for the eventual disaster attend a CERT training in your area.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2017-08-28 17:49:40

Here be sumtin’ interestin’ …

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMr2BxA_HVU

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-28 19:39:39

“Now, Republicans crafting legislation to overhaul the federal tax system and cut rates are considering placing new limits on the home mortgage interest deduction.”

What a great idea for both reducing the budget deficit and helping to restore affordable housing prices.

“And thousands of Californians could feel the pain.”

While millions of other Californians who are currently priced out of the market could benefit if housing prices came down from the stratosphere as a result…

“The move comes as GOP lawmakers and Trump administration officials already have proposed killing another break — the deductibility of state and local taxes — that benefits California residents more than those in any other state.”

Sounds like a great way to level the playing field for low-income renters, who don’t qualify for the huge tax federal tax breaks that wealthy homeowners enjoy. Democrats should champion this move towards fairness for low-income households.

“The housing industry strongly opposes efforts to place new restrictions on the deduction, arguing that would lead to lower housing prices because there would be less of a financial incentive to buy instead of rent. At the same time, Democrats from California and other states with high housing prices are gearing up to fight any change.”

I thought Democrats were in favor of affordable housing?

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 05:03:15

FT Series
Financial crisis anniversary
Global financial crisis
US home ownership fall hits young and minorities hardest
Financial crisis has left fewest Americans on property ladder since 1960s
yesterday
by: Lauren Leatherby

Home ownership in the US peaked just before the financial crisis. The combination of readily-available mortgages and the notion that house prices would only go up meant that more Americans than ever bought a home of their own — including many, ultimately, who could not afford it.

A decade later, the home ownership rate — defined as the share of US homes owned by their occupants — hit lows not seen since 1964. Younger and minority populations have been disproportionately affected by the economic repercussions of the crash and the tighter regulations surrounding the mortgage industry.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 05:33:33

MORTGAGING OUR FUTURE
Trump may begin dismantling the US’s worst tax law
Dan Kopf
August 26, 2017
Trump addresses a ceremony announcing a new hotel and condominium complex in Vancouver.
It’s a start. (Reuters/Andy Clark)

America’s mortgage interest tax deduction is an abomination. Not only is it a massive gift the US government gives to the rich at the expense of the poor, it distorts the economy in the process.

According to the Pew Research Center, in 2016 the tax break cost the government $77 billion. Nearly 80% of that went to the less than 20% of US households with total income of more than $125,000. The one third of households that are made up of renters, who are disproportionately poor, receive absolutely nothing from this break, and pay higher taxes in order to make up for the lost revenue.

Economists almost universally hate the interest deduction for homeowners. There is no evidence that incentivizing wealthier people to buy more homes does anything good for the economy, and by encouraging middle-class people to buy homes, it decreases geographic mobility and leads people to become overly reliant on a healthy housing market.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 06:02:04

It seems clear that Donald Trump is the only modern U.S. president with the temerity to stand up to the NAR in an effort to end this abomination of a tax law that serves wealthy Democrats who live in coastal blue states.

Comment by Ben Jones
2017-08-29 06:37:54

‘There is no evidence that incentivizing wealthier people to buy more homes does anything good for the economy’

Ouch, Bernanke that’s gonna leave a mark.

This is similar to the money laundering crack down. Some of the articles I posted expressed surprise that a guy in the luxury condo biz would allow it, but there it is. Let’s not forget, this tax sop extends to second shacks. If you refinance, you get more deductions, all government backed! The property tax write offs, more gravy. Just how much tilt does the REIC really need?

 
 
 
Comment by jeff
2017-08-29 06:12:07

Follow up on a story I saw posted here the other day.

Reports: Father in murder-suicide had financial troubles

By Robert Marchant Updated 6:31 pm, Monday, August 28, 2017

http://www.greenwichtime.com/policereports/article/Killer-of-family-members-had-legal-woes-12080945.php

Comment by rms
2017-08-29 07:23:19

His daughter, 18, was just getting started in life. WTF?

Comment by palmetto
2017-08-29 07:46:24

You’d have to live among these folks to get a picture of what they’re really like. jeff and I have been there and you grow up seeing and hearing things that don’t make any sense. Many of them eat their young and need serious pharmacueticals to maintain a front of human legitimacy.

Somebody moved this guy’s cheese and he went berserk and targeted the wrong people to take with him.

 
 
 
Comment by jeff
2017-08-29 07:54:37

“No power means no clean water, no sanitation, etc”

If I was told you can only choose one profession to service your community for the rest of your life, which would it be?

Fireman, Doctor, Policeman, Teacher or Garbage Man/Sanitation Worker.

I’m going with the Garbage Man hands down.

Comment by Carl Morris
2017-08-29 10:31:06

The people who make sure clean water flows toward you and poop flows away from you have far more impact on the quality (and length) of your life than your money manager.

Comment by rms
2017-08-29 12:10:41

And we’re talking about a couple of days too, not weeks.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 08:41:38

WSJ
Review & Outlook
Our Political Central Bankers
Fed officials join the resistance against financial reform.
By The Editorial Board
Aug. 28, 2017 7:06 p.m. ET

Janet Yellen didn’t run for President, but you wouldn’t know it from her policy démarche Friday at the Federal Reserve’s annual Jackson Hole retreat. The Fed Chair unleashed a defense of post-crisis financial regulation that shows how political the world’s central bankers have become.

You’d think she’d focus on that duty (monetary policy) given that the Fed faces a watershed as soon as next month as it decides whether to begin rolling back the $4.5 trillion balance sheet it has amassed since the 2008 financial panic.

The size and scope of that balance sheet is itself a political intrusion because the Fed’s bond purchases are a form of credit allocation. The purchase of mortgage securities favors housing, while the Fed’s deliberate focus on long-duration bonds has been a deliberate attempt to push investors into riskier assets.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 08:59:18

What share of U.S. homeowners realize that their housing market wealth gains are a gift straight out of the Fed’s bloated balance sheet?

Comment by Taxpayers
2017-08-29 16:55:07

Only 4 trillion

Comment by Professor 🐻
2017-08-29 17:42:42

4.5, but who’s counting?

Not only have they magically cleared the market of toxic mortgage securities, but they have also inadvertently dessicated the shelves of housing inventory, as investors bought everything they could into the short covering rally on the signal that the Fed put will backstop home prices from now on the same way they do stocks. So now we are back to a ginormous bubble along with the requisite denial that it exists or that the Fed had a hand in reflating it.

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Comment by Senior Housing Analyst
2017-08-30 06:00:26

Hillsboro, OR Housing Prices Crater 7%YOY

http://www.movoto.com/hillsboro-or/market-trends/

 
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