March 25, 2018

A Supply-Side Fantasy

A weekend topic starting with Better Dwelling. “The value of Canadian real estate has been debated for some time. Those that benefit from ownership, often say ‘fundamental value’ is sending prices higher. Further adding that the increase of home prices, results in an increase of wealth for the country. Housing activists say that real estate has become highly commoditized. They argue, escalating home prices result in decreasing wealth for the public. These two opinions are very different from each other, but are both correct. At least according to a 200 year old puzzle, known as the Lauderdale Paradox.”

“James Maitland, a.k.a. the 8th Earl of Lauderdale (1759-1839), was a Scottish nobleman. He spent a great deal of his personal time, observing money and wealth. Maitland speculated there is an inverse correlation between public wealth, and private wealth. He defines public wealth as ‘all that man desires that is useful or delightful to him.’ You know, things like air, water. Private wealth is pretty much the things you classify as public wealth, but ‘which exists in a degree of scarcity.’ Scarcity is the keyword here. In order to for something to have value, people have to believe there is only a limited quantity.”

“Finding things to monopolize is hard, good thing you can create artificial scarcity.”

“Looking at the numbers from 2011 to 2016, 146,200 homes formed. CMHC data shows 175,825 new completions occurred during that period. Almost 30,000 more homes were created than homes formed, adding to the housing supply. Despite this, pricing pressure actually increased, and inventory available became more scarce. The construction of extra supply had almost no impact on easing prices, and it wasn’t even sold for predatory increases. It just wasn’t available for some reason.”

“Two interesting trends occurred right around this period – the rise of foreign buyers, and vacant homes. According to the CMHC, non-residents owned 2.7% of all homes in 2017, a 35% jump in ratio from 2014. From 2011 to 2015, the CMHC estimates 8.48% of new condos were sold to non-residents. From 2016 to 2017, that increased to 11.65% of new Toronto condos. Developers increased their offerings overseas, despite significant domestic demand. This is a process known as massification, and it’s a method employed by luxury brands to create artificial scarcity.”

“Vacancy also appears to be a problem in Toronto, with non-regular occupancy growing with the ‘lack of inventory.’ By 2016, this number grew to 99,236 homes, or 4.43% of all dwellings. The rate actually scaled up, and grew larger than it was in 2011. This is despite the fact that the city reached record low inventory available for sale. Yes, homes are being kept empty, creating even more inventory pressure.”

From ABC 30 in California. “Seasoned realtor Don Scordino says the market is holding steady, but buyers are dealing with low inventory. Right now in Fresno County, about 1,300 homes are for sale. Experts say home prices are steadily increasing. Salazar says that’s positive news for those who are already homeowners, ‘If you are a current homeowner right now, congratulations because your equity is growing. Just stay tight.’”

From Palo Alto Online in California. “Fran Wagstaff doesn’t have to look far to see the transformation of Palo Alto’s housing market. Over the past decade, her Midtown neighborhood has gentrified, with property values going through the roof and out-of-town buyers gobbling up properties as investments, she told the Weekly. The house across the street is only occupied by its owners for one or two weeks per year, she said.”

“‘Every scrap of land is being redeveloped,’ Wagstaff said.”

From Orlando Weekly in Florida. “Back in December, Florida Gov. Rick Scott touted that Orlando leads the state in job growth, which is certainly something to be proud of. But Orlando doesn’t have a job shortage – it has a shortage of well-paying jobs and places for these people to live. According to the National Low Income Housing Coalition’s annual report, the Orlando-Kissimmee-Sanford area currently ties for second worst in the country for available affordable housing, offering only 17 available and affordable units per 100 renters.”

“While the Orlando area tied with Los Angeles, the only other major metropolitan area with a worse affordable housing rate is Las Vegas. The bottom line is Orlando is building plenty of new units, just not any its citizens can afford. From 2005 to 2015, the number of homes renting for $2,000 or more per month increased by 97 percent, while the number renting for less than $800 declined by 2 percent, according a 2017 report from the Joint Center for Housing Studies.”

From the New York Daily News. “There’s a hidden city in the five boroughs. Though its permanent population is zero, it is growing faster than any other neighborhood. Early numbers from the Census Bureau’s Housing and Vacancy Survey show the unoccupied city has ballooned by 65,406 apartments since 2014, an astonishing 35% jump in size in the three years since the last survey.”

“Today, 247,977 units — more than 11% of all rental apartments in New York City — sit either empty or scarcely occupied, even as many New Yorkers struggle to find an apartment they can afford. The Vacant City has tripled in 30 years. A generation ago, there were just 72,051 apartments in the Vacant City. Back in 1987, when rents were cheap by today’s standards at a median $395 a month, the Vacant City made up less than 4% of rental apartments. Today, the median rent is $1,450, having risen twice as fast as inflation, even while the Vacant City tripled in size.”

“For years, development officials, the real estate industry and think tanks have told us that artificially low rents are holding the city back. Higher rents, the argument went, would free landlords to make a reasonable amount of money and serve as an incentive to increase the housing supply. The new Census gleanings finally put the lie to that reasoning. We have higher prices for sure — but the only part of the city’s residential real estate that has grown is the Vacant City. More apartments are being held off the market than ever.”

“Some remain vacant for legitimate reasons. Almost 28,000 of those unused units have been rented or sold but not yet occupied, or are awaiting a sale. Almost 80,000 are getting renovated, 9,600 tied up in court, and 12,700 vacant because the owner is ill or elderly or simply can’t be bothered. But that still leaves more than 100,000 units — 74,945 occupied temporarily or seasonally, and 27,009 held off the market for unexplained reasons.”

“Oksana Mironova, a housing analyst with the Community Service Society, says that the growth of the Vacant City tends to confirm charges made by the organizing group Picture the Homeless and others that landlords are deliberately holding apartments off the market, perhaps in order to rent them out on services like Airbnb. Additionally, many of the 75,000 temporary apartments are pied-à-terres, weekend or vacation crash pads for the rich, up from just 9,282 in 1987.”

“Given the apparent benefits of bringing busted-up apartments back into use, it was possible to argue that encouraging more renovation and construction would be good for the city. In 2017, the Census Bureau couldn’t even locate enough dilapidated apartments to count — but did find a median asking rent of $1,875, 30% higher than what a typical existing tenant pays. What’s more, the vacancy rate for those expensive units is huge. Almost half the apartments available for rent in New York cost more than $2,000 a month — and the vacancy rate for them is above 7%.”

“More than 63,000 New Yorkers are living in homeless shelters (almost three times more than in 1987), and 30% of city households are shelling out more than half their income in rent.”

“We’ve largely conquered dilapidation and abandonment. Statistically, there are no more slums in New York City. But we’ve achieved this through a supply-side fantasy that created an unaffordable and increasingly vacant city.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-03-25 09:39:50

‘If you are a current homeowner right now, congratulations because your equity is growing. Just stay tight.’

This isn’t that hard to understand. Like stocks, people hold onto it as prices rise. A lot has to do with psychology, and everybody knows shacks only go up!

This also explains how prices drop like a turd in a well when this mojo is broken, most recently in Sydney or Toronto. Both were extremely expensive. Everybody wanted to live there and most importantly, there was a horrible (depending on if you hadn’t got on the ladder) shortage! And then suddenly, massive oversupply. Fact is, there never was a shortage at all. It simply the REIC with the help of the government, creating an artificial shortage.

It’s greed. Not complicated. But it does require one to understand this King shortage has no clothes.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 10:22:37

“Like stocks, people hold onto it as prices rise. A lot has to do with psychology, and everybody knows shacks only go up!

This also explains how prices drop like a turd in a well when this mojo is broken,…”

Speaking of stocks, March certainly had an interesting mojo!

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 10:30:33

The stock market has its undies in a knot, now that the Fed seems intent on following through on long-heralded punchbowl removal operations.

March Madness: The Dow is on the brink of logging its ugliest March loss in nearly 40 years
By Mark DeCambre
Published: Mar 24, 2018 5:32 p.m. ET
Nasdaq, S&P 500 on pace for worst March decline since 2001

Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 13:12:42

“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”
― James A. Garfield

lather rinse repeat

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 10:48:47

“And then suddenly, massive oversupply. Fact is, there never was a shortage at all. It simply the REIC with the help of the government, creating an artificial shortage.”

The leveraged asset HODLers are highly complicit in creating the artificial shortage. Those who took the bait to use low-down payment, low-interest GSE financing to grab one of the few overpriced houses for sale during a historic mania joined a host of other homeowners who were HODLing homes not out of need, but rather out of greedy expectations for double-digit home equity wealth gains in perpetuity. The dynamic of parabolic price gains coupled with shrinking transaction volume is no different in housing bubbles than in stocks or cryptocurrency, except for the time scale, which is far more protracted in housing. When the price run-up reaches the breaking point, the speculative buyers rapidly morph into sellers crowding the exits, and a shortage changes into a glut overnight.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 11:07:52

“The rate actually scaled up, and grew larger than it was in 2011. This is despite the fact that the city reached record low inventory available for sale. Yes, homes are being kept empty, creating even more inventory pressure.”

This only makes sense against the backdrop of mania price gains which more than fully offset the financing, depreciation and opportunity costs of HODLing vacant homes. Unfortunately the short squeeze dynamic feeds on itself, as the more HODLers decide to play the buy-and-hold-for-gains strategy, the fewer homes enter inventory, furthering the artificial shortage and fueling parabolic price increases on shrinking volume of sales.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 11:13:26

“We have higher prices for sure — but the only part of the city’s residential real estate that has grown is the Vacant City. More apartments are being held off the market than ever.”

Get shorty!

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 10:59:49

“Developers increased their offerings overseas, despite significant domestic demand.”

The politicians who opened the residential real estate market to competition for shelter with foreign real estate investors and Wall Street firms screwed a whole generation of young families out of the opportunity to enjoy affordable shelter at the point of household formation. If there was ever a case for protectionism, then it seems like residential real estate should qualify.

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-03-25 09:44:35

Rancho Cordova, CA Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY As Housing Correction Ravages Sacramento Area

https://www.zillow.com/rancho-cordova-ca/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart

Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 15:05:57

When prosperity comes, do not use all of it.

Comment by rms
2018-03-25 18:05:09

Phuc that… leverage it to the max! :)

 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-03-25 10:47:33

Realtors are liars.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-03-25 10:55:09

…… and every closing a crime scene.

Comment by oxide
2018-03-26 06:12:21

hi hon

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-03-26 07:03:11

Hey Donk

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Comment by CryptoNick
2018-03-25 11:35:45

Who knew crypto was so nefarious?

Tech #​Regulation
Mar 22, 2018 @ 06:00 AM
Inside The Shadowy World Of Race, Hate And Cryptocurrency
Lauren deLisa Coleman , Contributor
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurencoleman/2018/03/22/inside-the-shadowy-world-of-race-hate-and-cryptocurrency/#437e860c545c

FILE - In this Saturday, Aug. 12, 2017, photo, DeAndre Harris, bottom is assaulted in a parking garage beside the Charlottesville police station after a white nationalist rally was dispersed by police, in Charlottesville, Va. Harris, an African-American man who was severely beaten the day of a violent white nationalist rally, and then charged with misdemeanor assault in the same incident, was found not guilty Friday, March 16, 2018. (Zach D. Roberts via AP, File)

Controversy and various aspects of cryptocurrency seem to go hand-in-hand, but perhaps none more so than when this new tech arena collides with race and hate groups. Quite simply, there is a growing concern around the rising trend of the usage of anonymous digital currency to forward actions by extremist groups. Reports of such activity began to gain speed toward the end of last year and now the lens is widening. While the cryptocurrency industry clearly focuses on disrupting the financial status quo, could this new realm actually also somehow play a role in increasing racial tension in America today?

Comment by CorporateShill
2018-03-25 14:58:11

This looks like FUD.

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-03-25 15:34:49

Who is funding AntiFa?

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Comment by alphonso bedoya
2018-03-25 11:50:01

“Statistically, there are no more slums in New York.”

Translation: There are 2,581,170 apts in NYCity.(Census Data year 2008.) Three percent(77,435 apts) is statistical variance so as long as the number remains below the aforementioned we can declare that there are no slum apts in New York City.

Welcome to the New Normal.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-03-25 18:23:31

If the so-called statisticians had any training in traditional math, they would say “2,580,000 +/- 80,000″, not “2,581,170″. Just sayin.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2018-03-25 11:52:58

Does it seem like 2018 is destined to be a bad year to own stocks?

Comment by Professor Bear
2018-03-25 12:01:13

It’s hard to imagine stocks falling by 40%. But then it was hard to foresee the spectacular low-rate Fed gains of the past decade, either.

JPMorgan exec warns stock market could fall by 40%
by Chris Isidore
March 8, 2018: 8:54 AM ET
A top JPMorgan Chase executive is warning that stocks could fall as much as 40% in the next few years.

Daniel Pinto, JPMorgan’s co-president, said during an interview on Bloomberg Television Thursday that he believes market gains should continue for the next year or two. But he added that investors are nervous, and that the recent announcement about tariffs and trade wars contribute to their unease.

“Markets are going to be nervous, nervous about anything. Nervous about anything that relates to inflation, nervous about anything that relates to growth,” he said. “These tariffs, if they go a lot beyond what has been announced, it is something that will concern the markets about future growth.”

He said it’s normal for there to be a correction at the end of an investing cycle, and that markets could be heading for a “deep correction” of between 20% and 40%, depending upon the market values at the time the downturn starts.

“We know there will be correction at some point,” he said.

Comment by Professor Bear
2018-03-25 12:13:39

It’s interesting how for the last three presidential regimes, the stock market delivered huge outsized gains with Democrats in the White House, and massive losses on the one Republican’s eight year term. I realize this is not much data to generalize from (e.g. Reagan’s two-term presidency was during a large run-up in stocks), but it will be interesting to see whether Trump’s term in office continues or breaks the recent pattern.

When Barack Obama was sworn in as the 44th president of the United States on January 20, 2009, the U.S. stock market was in free fall. The financial crisis was in full swing following the collapse of Lehman Brothers and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, a popular measure of the U.S. stock market, closed at 805 points on Inauguration Day.

Eight years later, the S&P 500 index has risen to 2,274 points after one of the great bull runs in stock market history. With Obama as president, the U.S. stock market, as measured by the S&P 500, returned 235%, or 16.4% annualized.

The Obama stock market trounced the stock market of his presidential predecessor, George W. Bush, which fell 30.6% from January 20, 2001 to January 20, 2009. Bill Clinton’s stock market, however, beat the Obama stock market, returning 264%, or 17.5% annualized.

Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2018-03-25 13:29:07

How are implo$ions related to expol$ions, in a general sorta.of.way? … Does time play a role? …

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Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2018-03-25 13:37:59

To bee clear; “time” as inferred: “it’s different this time!”

 
Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 15:08:23

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-03-25 16:49:36

“Real knowledge is to know the extent of one’s ignorance.”

To help out with one discovering the extent of one’s ignorance I am offering to one and all a shot at my Dotted Line Special.

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-03-25 18:27:55

How are implo$ions related to expol$ions…

Ironically, they are both the result of a transition to a lower energy state.

 
Comment by oxide
2018-03-26 08:38:57

Would you offer so many Dotted Line Specials if you couldn’t sell the puke paper to Fannie Mae?

 
Comment by whirlyite
2018-03-26 10:29:14

Mama always said “Stupid is as stupid does.”

 
 
Comment by oxide
2018-03-26 06:17:26

The multinationals are being whiny beeyotches. For years they whined that “we have the highest tax rates in the world” and “our workers aren’t competitive.” OK, Trump cut your taxes and is taking the sledgehammer to China, your major competitor. These companies should be building and hiring like crazy, but instead they tank the market, probably to whine for even more handouts. Ungrateful, to say the least.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2018-03-25 12:03:22

Will the Fed slow down its pace of rate normalization if it seems like the stock market is dropping as a result?

Comment by Professor Bear
2018-03-25 12:08:11

Futures Now
The Fed is moving at such a glacial pace it’s ‘hilarious’ and almost like a ‘whisper’, says portfolio manager
Keris Lahiff
Published 22 Hours Ago CNBC.com
The Fed is slow to hike, but rates are still heading higher, says strategist
1:39 PM ET Fri, 23 March 2018 | 01:32

The Federal Reserve raised rates last week for just the sixth time since the financial crisis and the markets took it in stride. However, one market watcher says the Fed’s slow pace borders on ridiculous.

“It’s at such a glacial pace, it’s hilarious,” Bryce Doty, senior portfolio manager of fixed income at Sit Investment Associates, told CNBC’s “Futures Now” recently. “It’s almost like arguing who can whisper the loudest.”

On Wednesday, the central bank announced a 25-basis-point increase to the fed funds rate. Its target range of 1.5 percent to 1.75 percent is still below pre-recession levels, a level that Doty derided.

“It’s not really getting them to where they want to be,” Doty continued. “They want to be at a neutral rate which is 3 percent and they’re at a pace that’s going to take them as long as two years to get there. It seems a little silly.

The Fed has been working to normalize monetary policy over the past two years, beginning with its initial move off historically low, near-zero rates in December 2015. Since then, it has raised rates in incremental 25-basis-point moves, and begun to slowly wind down a balance sheet that exceeds $4 trillion.

Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 13:39:38

the fed funds rate has been made obsolete by all the excess reserves out there.

What really matters is yields on longer term bonds such as 10 year.

If global central banks can keep yields down than all is well.

A stock market plunge will cause a flight to bonds thus pushing prices up and yields down just in time for the FED to reduce its balance sheet. Coincidence?

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Comment by CryptoNick
2018-03-25 19:13:12

Sounds like a great time to buy long-term Treasurys, especially if China decides to have a fire sale.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-03-25 21:32:42

Did you dump your stocks last week?

Money
March 22, 2018 / 2:54 PM / 3 days ago
Investors pull $9.6 billion from U.S. equity funds, deepening selloff
Trevor Hunnicutt

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. fund investors stripped billions from stocks during the most recent week, Lipper data showed on Thursday, adding to the selling pressure building on markets.

More than $9.6 billion cascaded out of U.S.-based equity funds during the week ended March 21, the Thomson Reuters research service said, just one week after those products took in $20 billion, illustrating the unstable mood gripping investors.

Stocks slumped on Thursday as President Donald Trump’s move to impose tariffs on up to $60 billion of Chinese imports drove fears about the impact on the global economy and fueled the biggest percentage declines in Wall Street’s three major indexes since they entered correction territory six weeks ago.

 
 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-03-25 13:31:46

I liked this sentence from the Lauderdale Paradox article:

“Developers argue this is due to underbuilding, caused by supply constraints. Sounds reasonable, until you actually run the numbers. Then it looks more like they began burning supply.”

Real short-term interest rates have been negative for about a decade ever since the Fed threw the kitchen sink at the market in order to reflate the bubble. I talked with a family member who reasoned to himself, “Why would I park money in a bank account when I can just put it in a get-away condo that I can use every so often. The value of the place is bound to increase with inflation. Plus, it’s nice to have a get-away vacation. Any additional appreciation is a bonus.” The MID and the artificial scarcity that has been concocted by land use regulations only adds fuel to this speculative fire. The emergence of AirBnB also gave an extra hotel-like revenue stream to these speculative properties. These are particularly salient issues because I live in a quasi-second-home community. Many of these houses and condos are for wealthy northern Utahans or Californians that sit idle most of the year. The developers have started to build exclusively for the investor crowd who wants to have a get-away 2-week winter vacation pad that they can use as they wish, plus a few additional weekends during the year. They rationalize that the cash flow from the AirBnB/VRBO plus appreciation will make this all pencil out. Here is my question: Is anyone keeping tabs on how this massive influx of wannabe hoteliers is going to affect the supply overhang? I suspect that a good deal of oversupply is baked in far beyond the “official” vacancy numbers. But I think the only way we will really know is when we see a stalling out of price appreciation when all of the sudden these priced-to-perfection deals will no longer make sense and the whole process goes into reverse.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-03-25 13:42:09

What inflation?

Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 15:15:00

A superior man is modest in his speech, but exceeds in his actions.

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-03-25 16:44:01

“But I think the only way we will really know is when we see a stalling out of price appreciation when all of the sudden these priced-to-perfection deals will no longer make sense and the whole process goes into reverse.”

This “whole process goes into reverse” thingy means the price rise goes into reverse and the creation of equity value goes into reverse which means the creation of wealth goes into reverse - EVERYTHING goes into reverse EXCEPT that pesky and enduring debt that powered it all, it gets to stay.

Boy, does it ever.

Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-03-25 18:32:57

It’s not vacant even if it’s empty until fear takes a grip. Then it’s vacant.

 
 
Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 14:43:20

was toys r us a zombie corporation?

Comment by Mike
2018-03-25 19:31:47

a href=https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/15/business/toys-r-us-bankruptcy.html>Read about how private equity did them in. I suspect as debt becomes more expensive to service, more of these private equity deals (where they loaded up the “host” with debt) will blow up.

excerpt:
For over a decade, Toys “R” Us had been drowning in $5 billion of debt, which its private equity backers had saddled it with. With debt payments siphoning off cash every year, Toys “R” Us could not properly invest in its worn-out suburban stores or outdated website. Sales plummeted, as Amazon captured more children’s desires — and their parents’ wallets — for Star Wars Legos and Paw Patrol recycling trucks.

Toys “R” Us is the latest failure of financial engineering

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-03-25 20:18:33

“Toys “R” Us is the latest failure of financial engineering”

One way to look at it. Another way is to look at it as just one more success story achieved by well-practiced financial artists.

BTW, any of you pukes here ever hear of Meshulam Riklis? He is the guy who sort of invented the LBO. He put something like 35 companies into bankruptcy over the years after looting them and leaving them as financial shells.

Wiki him up for a good read.

Comment by rms
2018-03-26 07:08:59

“…ever hear of Meshulam Riklis?”

The Corporate Raider aka Mr Pia Zadora?

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-03-26 07:33:21

That be him.

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2018-03-26 05:51:37

No way out of debt with the demographics against them.

 
 
 
Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 14:50:09

why work when your money can work for you?

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-03-25 16:35:24

Yes! And to build on such creative and innovative thinking, why work when somebody else’s money can work for you? Somebody you don’t even know! Now, just how clever is that?

Come see me and ask me how this miracle can performed, and while you are at it relax and enjoy a free cup of coffee!

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2018-03-25 17:59:21

Who needs money? Your house can work for you.

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-03-25 18:34:16

In the Poet’s case, it’s other people’s money.

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-03-25 14:52:46

Eastchester, NY Housing Prices Crater 18% YOY As Metro NY Housing Correction Expands

https://www.movoto.com/eastchester-ny/market-trends/

Comment by azdude
2018-03-25 15:23:20

Don’t worry when you are not recognized, but strive to be worthy of recognition.

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-03-25 18:22:15

Here I sit all broken hearted…

Comment by oxide
2018-03-26 09:22:18

Well *we* recognize you Ben. ♥

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-03-26 09:45:08

Housing Donk…. Housing.

Santa Clarita, CA Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY

https://www.movoto.com/santa-clarita-ca/market-trends/

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-03-25 17:57:32

Clearwater, FL Housing Prices Crater 20% YOY As Vacation Property Market Plummets

https://www.movoto.com/clearwater-fl/market-trends/

Comment by Skepticpessimistic
2018-03-25 19:32:55

Only thing that looks to be cratering in Clearwater is the number of properties on the market based on the link you provided. 621 available properties a year ago to only 10 properties now.

Comment by Karen
2018-03-25 21:04:05

When prices plummet, underwater debtors can’t list their house for sale. Duh.

Comment by rms
2018-03-25 22:33:22

Sure they can if they’re willing to bring some cash to the closing.

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Comment by Jingle Male
2018-03-26 04:12:35

More BS posted without any analysis. Check Zillow….over 75 houses listed for sale…..Movoto error.

HA will post fake news everyday if it shows the market crashing. He’s done it for many years……as values rose every year.

No cred…..just crud!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-03-26 08:50:57

DebtDonkey

Bradenton, FL Housing Prices Crater 30% YOY

https://www.movoto.com/bradenton-fl/market-trends/

 
 
 
Comment by rms
2018-03-25 19:40:36

The buttons on Stormy’s blouse have more tension than the FL foot bridge.

Comment by Deferred Maintenance
2018-03-25 20:36:09

That was one pathetic, repulsive interview. The most repulsive part was her attorney. Looks like one helluva nasty fister.

What the hell was this poor sow thinking? So she did the interview. It was dull and tawdry and now it’s over. That’s the end of her paydays. She may have a hefty Go Fund Me account right now, but all of that will go to the fister, as she contends with the legal proceedings that she will now have to endure for a very long time. People will lose interest, and the account will dry up. Her attorney got a little publicity and he’ll dump her. Then what?

Comment by rms
2018-03-25 23:19:43

“That was one pathetic, repulsive interview.”

I’m glad I didn’t watch it.

Comment by Deferred Maintenance
2018-03-26 05:43:53

So, you just watched the buttons?

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Comment by rms
2018-03-26 18:01:08

+1 Hehe… I noticed Anderson Cooper sat a comfortable distance so he wouldn’t lose an eye if a button popped loose.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Saltwater Catfish
2018-03-26 00:05:51

Seems like the publicity should be good for both Stormy’s and Trump’s businesses — a win-win.

Comment by Deferred Maintenance
2018-03-26 07:34:27

I don’t think anyone won here, except maybe the attorney, for as long as her Go Fund Me account holds out. Bad move for 60 Minutes, that’s for sure. A once respected news gagazine show went tabloid. I don’t even think the show got good ratings, I don’t see any crowing about it, so I’m assuming it fell flat.

She may have had a bit of a bump in her “business”, but that will last maybe a couple of weeks. I doubt if Trump’s businesses will profit at all.

Comment by ibbots
2018-03-26 08:54:34

Looks like the old adage ’sex sells’ is still true:

“Stormy Daniels helps ‘60 Minutes’ to best ratings in nearly ten years

Sunday’s episode was the highest-watched, based on early ratings data, since a Nov. 16, 2008 episode with then President-elect Barack Obama and Michelle Obama in their first post-election interview.”

From USA Today

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Comment by rms
2018-03-26 18:03:33

“Bad move for 60 Minutes…”

Before long they’ll have to rename it 60 seconds because that’s the going attention span these days.

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Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-03-26 07:09:28

Denver, CO 80211 Housing Prices Crater 8% YOY As Housing Demand Plummets To 21 Year Low

https://www.zillow.com/denver-co-80211/home-values/

 
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