April 13, 2018

A Scarcity Of Buyers Amid A Mountain Of Unsold Homes

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “In Houston’s housing market, the Harvey effect is wearing off. Home sales fell in March for the first time since last year’s hurricane, a new report shows. Bernie Otten, whose house took on about four inches of water during Harvey, thought about selling and leaving the neighborhood but decided to make repairs and hope for the best. ‘My wife and I have talked about moving, but we’re going to wait to see what happens to the home values over time,’ Otten said. ‘We’re a long way from break-even.’”

“Housing analysts have predicted a surge of foreclosures later this year as forbearance programs end and homeowners face mortgage bills they can’t pay. ‘I suspect this summer we’re going to see a pretty good tick up in foreclosures,’ said Jim Gaines, an economist with the Texas A&M real estate center.”

“Among the slowest moving luxury markets in the U.S. was the very expensive Santa Barbara, California, which got hit by catastrophic wildfires over the past year. It’s now taking homes there about nine months to sell and average listing prices have dropped about 10%. The slowest market is Edwards, Colorado, where multimillion-dollar ski retreats are taking over a year to move.”

“The median price of a single-family home in Maui County in March fell 10.1 percent compared with March 2017 to $680,000. Single-family home median prices skidded from $756,000, a record high in March 2017, to $680,000 last month. The 10.1 percent drop is the most since June 2014 when the median home sales price fell 11.5 percent to $530,000 from $599,000 in June 2013. The supply of new listings for single-family homes in March plummeted 33.3 percent to 120, compared with the same month last year.”

“The largest percentage price drop came in Hana where prices fell 65.5 percent to $760,000 (from $2.2 million). There were seven home sales in Hana in the first quarter, an increase in sales volume of 250 percent. The second largest decline in home prices was in Maui Meadows where median sales fell 35.4 percent to $937,500 with six sales, a 50 percent increase in volume.”

“The Colorado Springs housing market is reaching record high prices for homes. In spite of that, plenty of people are still buying. ‘Understand that whatever decision you make is probably a 10-year decision,’ said Associate Broker Rob Thompson. ‘Encouraging people to exercise caution…and look at the long horizon, that’s something I failed to do when I bought my first house.’ Thompson purchased a home in Las Vegas about 10 years ago when the housing crisis hit. ‘I ended up short selling it for 67 percent loss…it significantly put me into some debt that I had to work off.’”

“So if you are trying to buy a home Thompson says there are a few questions you need to ask yourself. ‘Is it reasonable for me to expect the 7-10 percent appreciation that I need to sell this home in the future in the time I intend to hold it…if not, then you’ve got to ask yourself am I willing to be a landlord because this will be future rental for you possibly,’ he said. Thompson’s reasoning behind all of this is that you can’t bank on continued appreciation in the market. With the tight market some people are concerned that Colorado Springs could be headed for a bubble.”

“Canada’s real estate industry organization says the number of homes sold in March plunged 22.7% and the national average price was down 10.4% from the same month last year. CREA says activity was below year-ago levels in more than 80% of all local markets, in all major urban centres except for Montreal and Ottawa, with the vast majority of year-over-year declines well into double digits. Out of the 63 real estate markets measured, Royal LePage found ‘declines were most prevalent in the Greater Toronto Area, and to a lesser degree in the Greater Vancouver detached home segment.’”

“Reykjavík is third on the list of cities where housing prices have increased the most within the last year, namely by 16.6%, The Guardian reports. Ólafur Heiðar Helgason, an economist from the Housing Financing Fund in Iceland says that the recent surge in real estate prices is far from being as worrisome as it was, for instance, right before the 2008 crash, he also admits that the process has not been followed by a parallel increment in wages. ‘We have to begin wondering whether we’ve actually reached the tolerance limits, when it comes to price growth,’ Ólafur adds.”

“Dubai: A 14,331 square feet Bulgari Resorts and Residences apartment in Dubai sold for Dh60 million was easily the priciest deal in Dubai’s freehold market during Q1-18. What is interesting is that within the luxury end, sales are happening both direct from developer as well as from investor-owners who want to make an exit. ‘There is still more demand in high-end residential projects direct from developers,’ said Brigitte Tenbergen, Associate Director of Luxhabitat. ‘Secondary market properties are moving as well… but with major price reductions.’”

“‘What I perceive as a general sentiment is that buyers are overwhelmed with the amount of projects in the market and in no rush,’ said Tenbergen. ‘They take their own sweet time and are demanding discounts/waivers as they are well aware that there will be an oversupply of properties in the market.’”

“The world is binging on skyscrapers. About 230 towers worldwide, each at least 200 meters tall, are slated for completion this year. This marks a 60% increase from 2017, with China accounting for 60% of the total and Southeast Asia and the Middle East are also big builders. But the rapid pace has caused concerns about underlying risks, with some experts forecasting a slowdown in or after next year, depending on China’s property market bubble. ‘In certain cities, a housing glut is already pushing down rents,’ said Akihiro Yasuda of Sumitomo Mitsui Trust Research Institute.”

“Federal government policies may finally have tapped the brakes on the housing market, but in doing so they might have also put the luxury car market into a spin. Double-digit gains in luxury car sales turned south just before the softening of real estate prices in Sydney and Melbourne, and they look set to continue as homeowners in the top end of the market don’t feel so flush anymore, according to Commsec analysis. Commsec senior economist Ryan Felsman called luxury car sales ‘a leading indicator’ of consumer spending as fewer luxury cars mean there’s less money being thrown around.”

“Mr Felsman said because house price falls in Sydney were being keenly felt at the top end of the market, this was feeding the falls. ‘What we’re seeing is a bit of a downdraft in confidence, people are being more cautious in their spending,’ Mr Felsman said.”

“Gini Suri, a resident of New Delhi, recently sold off her second home on the outskirts of the capital at a price much below what she paid seven years ago. The 36-year-old pottery artist and her husband paid Rs55 lakh to buy the two-bedroom apartment at Omaxe Green Valley. They sold the property for Rs49 lakh. Despite its strategic location providing access to south Delhi, Gurugram and Noida, she said rentals started to decline drastically in a span of two years, particularly from 2015.”

“‘We weren’t getting much returns out of the property and the rates kept falling. We were getting buyers for Rs63-65 lakh. We thought we would wait for a while… but the opposite happened. Instead of going up, prices crashed further,’ she said.”

“Another individual seller from Kolkata is struggling to sell his two bedroom-hall-kitchen flat at Tata Amantra, a project in Mumbai’s Kalyan-Bhiwandi area. The person, requesting not to be named, said he had bought the property for Rs65 lakh in 2013, but is now willing to take a hit of about 10% on the capital invested and sell it for Rs60 lakh; but getting a buyer isn’t easy. ‘The capital value has shrunk. At the end of four years, you realise that you have lost capital in the entire process. Everybody expected the market to pick up, which never happened,’ he said.”

“Flat or falling prices and a scarcity of buyers amid a mountain of unsold homes are forcing real estate investors to sell much below current market prices or the original purchase price, or wait indefinitely with no immediate price appreciation in sight. This is true of not only investor-driven markets like Delhi-National Capital Region (NCR), but also Mumbai and Bengaluru, as individual sellers look to exit residential investments at either a loss or with returns far below their expectations.”

“‘Investors who only buy on an assumption of increase in price are practically out, and the end-user is sitting on almost 20-30% below what is generally the current prevailing price,’ said Vipul Roongta, CEO, HDFC Capital Advisors.”

“Akash Bansal, national head- consulting at property advisory Liases Foras said that with prices not having appreciated, the return on investment has either been negative or low. ‘There are more buyers than sellers and most are desperate sellers who want money even if they are incurring certain losses,’ he said.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-04-13 09:12:13

‘The median price of a single-family home in Maui County in March fell 10.1 percent compared with March 2017 to $680,000. Single-family home median prices skidded from $756,000, a record high in March 2017, to $680,000 last month…The supply of new listings for single-family homes in March plummeted 33.3 percent to 120, compared with the same month last year.’

‘The largest percentage price drop came in Hana where prices fell 65.5 percent to $760,000 (from $2.2 million). There were seven home sales in Hana in the first quarter, an increase in sales volume of 250 percent. The second largest decline in home prices was in Maui Meadows where median sales fell 35.4 percent to $937,500 with six sales, a 50 percent increase in volume.’

How about an explanation from the supply and demanders?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-13 11:19:41

“prices fell 65.5 percent”

That’s the low end of the forecast but getting there. It really depends on just how overpriced the shack is. Once prices fall to production cost around $50/sq ft (lot, labor, materials and profit), it’s time to start paying attention.

 
Comment by liquideye
2018-04-13 13:16:27

Its that road to Hana - that drive is a pain. Hana appears to be home to gazillionaires that can afford to fly into the little airport there on their private jets and hippies/locals that live off the land and/or welfare. Price of gas is no bueno there.

Seriously, that drive sucks - I’ve probably done it half a dozen times at least. If you go there spend a few days - do not try and drive there, hike/whatever, and drive back in the same day.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 18:56:33

I love the drive. Wife and I took it on our honeymoon, then again a couple of decades into our marriage when we got back to Maui again. It’s good to not be in any hurry if you tackle that drive!

 
 
Comment by trader jack
2018-04-13 13:55:31

Econ 101, supply and demand theory only works when there is no change in other factors. Had a hard time understanding that in 1948 when I was in college.

Comment by rms
2018-04-13 16:06:44

“Had a hard time understanding that in 1948 when I was in college.”

Wow… not a spring chicken.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 23:08:55

It’s not quite that bad. Though true that the standard ceteris paribus (”other things equal”) assumption typically underpins undergraduate economics classroom discussions, empirical methods have been developed since 1948 to make allowance for the failure of this assumption to generally hold in real world data.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-04-13 09:14:10

‘Canada’s real estate industry organization says the number of homes sold in March plunged 22.7% and the national average price was down 10.4% from the same month last year. CREA says activity was below year-ago levels in more than 80% of all local markets’

Oh dear…

Comment by 2banana
2018-04-13 10:42:48

Don’t worry.

Banks have TARP already built in.

And Canada is basically a recourse nation.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 18:58:45

CREAter

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-04-13 09:17:50

‘Housing analysts have predicted a surge of foreclosures later this year as forbearance programs end and homeowners face mortgage bills they can’t pay. ‘I suspect this summer we’re going to see a pretty good tick up in foreclosures’

Wait a minute. I’ve been told repeatedly that current loans are solid and Senator Running Deer has the situation well in hand. What’s all this talk about “bills they can’t pay”?

Comment by 2banana
2018-04-13 10:41:00

‘We’re a long way from break-even.’”

But…but…housing ladder

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:04:25

Just wait until the next recession. All the greater fools who recently leveraged themselves out the wazoo with a subprime death pledge will be SO financially hosed. They better hope and pray that the Democrats get back into power before the onset of the next downtown.

Comment by redmondjp
2018-04-15 19:58:26

I’m not sure where you are, but a vast majority of houses in my area are now being purchased with cash. These people may lose some equity, but they are wealthy enough that it won’t matter to them.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-23 15:04:14

All housing transactions are cash…. Borrowed cash.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-04-13 09:20:15

‘Double-digit gains in luxury car sales turned south just before the softening of real estate prices in Sydney and Melbourne, and they look set to continue as homeowners in the top end of the market don’t feel so flush anymore…Felsman called luxury car sales ‘a leading indicator’ of consumer spending as fewer luxury cars mean there’s less money being thrown around.’

‘Mr Felsman said because house price falls in Sydney were being keenly felt at the top end of the market, this was feeding the falls. ‘What we’re seeing is a bit of a downdraft in confidence, people are being more cautious in their spending’

Bob and Sue were thrilled to move into their new house, but Bob lost his job and Sue got sick and…

 
Comment by 2banana
2018-04-13 11:02:05

I am in debt up to my eyeballs…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0HX4a5P8eE

Comment by rms
2018-04-13 16:52:26

Somebody help me… :)

 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-04-13 09:46:59

Wrightsville Beach, FL Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Coastal Property Values Plunge

https://www.movoto.com/wrightsville-beach-nc/market-trends/

 
Comment by In Colorado
2018-04-13 10:45:47

The slowest market is Edwards, Colorado, where multimillion-dollar ski retreats are taking over a year to move.”

Multimillion dollar ski retreats in Edwards? It’s not even a resort area, and has no skiing slopes. You gotta drive to get to those from there. Edwards is right on i-70, in a very FLAT location. I visited it once (soccer tournament). It struck me as a place where the ski resort hired help lives.

Comment by TIC TOK
2018-04-13 11:19:54

Not quite. Edwards is basically Beaver Creek. The Arrowhead lift, is actually in the city limits of Edwards.Those condos and chalets at the Arrowhead base, cost millions. And even from across I 70 its a 5 min drive.

Comment by In Colorado
2018-04-13 12:43:37

Perhaps the slopes were closer to the soccer field than I remember. But the place was nothing like Vail or Aspen. I recall the soccer complex (which was north of I-70) was surrounded by a neighborhood of unremarkable, small, cookie cutter houses. Like I said above, it looked like a place for the hired professional help to live. That said, my experience was about ten years ago and things could have changed there since then.

Comment by TIC TOK
2018-04-13 17:09:11

Arrowhead was around in the 80s, I think it was its own resort and BC bought it. In any case, NOT being anything like Vail is a plus for me. The dbag scale is at 12 on a 1 to 10 scale there.

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Comment by Apartment 401
2018-04-13 10:53:45

Realtors are liars.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-13 11:00:17

If you see one in your neighborhood, lock the doors and call the authorities immediately.

Comment by In Colorado
2018-04-13 12:44:58

Being that the REIC people own the local cops, they will likely come and arrest you.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-13 13:37:37

Are you sure?

“Denver Real Estate broker And Two Associates Face Criminal Charges over City Park Duplex Real Estate Deal”

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/10/06/real-estate-broker-charged-over-city-park-duplex/

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Comment by In Colorado
2018-04-13 14:46:47

Ah, but that Realtor committed real estate fraud, she broke the cardinal rule and was thus thrown under the bus. You don’t mess with Mr. Banker.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-04-14 07:44:07

“You don’t mess with Mr. Banker.”

Mr. Banker always wins in the end. Always.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-04-13 11:05:36

Bloomberg puff piece pimps the women are always the victims narrative, irresponsibly fails to mention that 70% of all divorces are initiated by women:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-13/rise-of-gray-divorce-forces-financial-reckoning-after-50

Do not be a BetaBux. Just don’t.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-04-13 11:48:47

“70% of all divorces are initiated by women”

In my limited (thank God) experience, filing divorce papers is merely the public declaration of what is already fact.

Comment by In Colorado
2018-04-13 12:48:51

In other words, she has decided she’s done with you and is ready to trade you in.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-04-13 12:58:59

Some people think that with love, kindness and a ton of patience they can turn an unsuitable partner into a different person. The shame of this is not necessarily the late awakening to reality, but the early ignorance of it.

Just my experience.

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 20:00:26

No early ignorance, no survival of the human race. Or, as they say, ignorance is (wedded) bliss.

Not speaking here so much from personal experience, as from second-hand observation, as most of the time I am happily married. Not so much most of the married couples I have ever observed…

 
 
Comment by rms
2018-04-13 17:02:00

A little monkey always has a firm grip on a new branch before letting go of the current one.

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Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:22:48

Smart little monkey!

 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:21:39

She’s ready to cash you in for a monthly pension, er I mean alimony check.

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Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-04-13 22:49:52

Ha. Just to give you a hint as to where I stand on all this.

My ex-wife told me, rather loudly, that she “deserves” seven thousand dollars a month from me for the rest of her life, and the only reason she doesn’t get it is that I “screwed her over” with my ’shark lawyers’ in court.

She told me this about 3 years after she remarried (which she did 13 days after the last alimony check cleared).

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-04-14 07:29:40

“My ex-wife told me, rather loudly, that she “deserves” seven thousand dollars a month from me for the rest of her life …”

Bahahaha … This is what I generally shoot for when offering-up one of my Dotted Line Specials.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-04-14 07:38:47

Bahahahaha … generally the puke of a man falls for the gold digger of a woman only after the woman has invested much of her time and effort and well-honed seductive skills in getting the puke to commit. As for me all I have to do is open my door for business.

Life is indeed good.

😁

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-14 07:58:04

“She told me this about 3 years after she remarried (which she did 13 days after the last alimony check cleared).”

She sounds like one of those financially savvy female investors we read about from time to time in the MSM. Her asset class of choice is husbands.

 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-04-14 09:48:51

A friend told me he and his wife were happy for twenty years. Then they met.

 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-04-14 10:46:09

My ex is rather delusional, as apparently are a decent segment of women who managed to get married young enough then find a way to ensure they never enter the workforce.

I will freely admit that I was rather stupid in my early 20s when I fell in with her. I only wish that back then I had access to the information and collective wisdom that is available now.

What still torques me to this day is the whole no-fault thing. Coming to find out that my ex, who was always on me to make more money (for the kids/etc/blah), had numerous affairs taking advantage of the time I was busy working was insulted by the fact the none of that matter when it came time to split up. Instead she wrapped herself in the flag of motherhood, cried and got the gold mine while I got the shaft.

I’ve got a small library of books waiting for my son once he gets a bit older and moves out on his own, in an attempt to give him the awareness I never had until it was too late.

 
Comment by rms
2018-04-14 11:40:57

“…had numerous affairs…”

Was this a high libido thing, or was she looking for a billionaire?

 
 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2018-04-13 13:33:52

Some 61 percent of millennial women said they leave investment decisions to their husbands. That compares with 54 percent for baby boomer women.

And, as usual, no mention of the forgotten women of GenX. :sad:

Anyway, I sense several competing selection biases. Maybe the married Millennial women are financial idiots because the Millenial women who *aren’t* financial idiots can afford to stay single. And maybe those married Boomer women are on their second marriage and don’t trust the second husband.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-13 13:39:45

Hey Donk

 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-04-13 13:51:45

Per the article:

Respondents had to have at least $250,000 in investable assets.

No selection Bias there. They perfectly captured the average person. /s

Comment by Oxide
2018-04-13 19:33:09

Agree. Married millenial woman (age 35 or younger) with 250 large to toss around? Sounds like she *ahem* “sought an arrangement.” Of course they wouldn’t discuss money with the sugah daddy…

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Comment by aNYCdj
2018-04-14 08:26:22
 
 
 
 
Comment by TIC TOK
2018-04-13 17:10:57

MGTOW

The only way to win is to not play the game.

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-04-13 14:04:57

Murphy, TX Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Dallas Area Housing Bubble Bursts

https://www.movoto.com/murphy-tx/market-trends/

 
Comment by trader jack
2018-04-13 14:08:15

I told the City Council that they should forget housing by changing the description of homes from low income, moderate income, and high income, to homes that are economy homes , standard home, and luxury homes.

You miss the point if you consider a small house a low income house if you allow it to be built with all of the luxury finishing touches.

All of those nice amenities run the cost up, increase the developers profit , and force the buyer to pay for the extra cost over the term on the loan for the purchase .

But the developers all say you can not sell a home today that does not have all of the supposed needs that are forced onto the buyers

Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-04-13 16:49:13

The local planning and land use departments are all interested in luxury as well, because it means more fees and taxes for the coffers. It’s despicable what’s become of shelter, and healthcare for that matter - two industries preying upon the needs of human beings.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-04-13 16:57:21

‘an economist from the Housing Financing Fund in Iceland says that the recent surge in real estate prices is far from being as worrisome as it was, for instance, right before the 2008 crash, he also admits that the process has not been followed by a parallel increment in wages’

How many years does this price versus wages thing have to go on before someone sees it as a problem? No, it’s all about the loans. If the loans can be explained away, no price is too high.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 17:09:23

Is the shadow inventory back, or did it never go away? Hard to know!

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 17:23:21

Did someone on high remove the market’s training wheels? It seems like the complete absence of volatility has given way to the stock market version of a yo-yo.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:41:43

I further note that the secular change in stock market behavior coincided with the end of Berkeley communist Yellen’s tenure as chair.

Coincidental or causal?

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:48:14

Peter Schiff: Nobody Is Prepared For The Long-Term Pain That’s Coming
Apr. 10, 2018 5:14 AM
By SchiffGold

The stock market continued its yo-yo ways on Friday. After three straight days of healthy gains, the Dow Jones Industrials fell 572 points to end the week, closing below 24,000. The Nasdaq also plunged, dropping 161 points.

Peter Schiff has been saying for weeks this is a bear market. Well, now even President Trump has said investors may see some short-term pain in the stock market. But the president says it will all be worth it because we will get long-term gain, referring to the benefits we’ll reap when we win the trade war. In his most recent podcast, Peter said that’s not how it’s going to play out.

We’re going to have short-term pain and then the pain is going to get worse in the long-run.

The big problem is, nobody is really ready for any pain at all.

 
 
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Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-04-13 20:30:22

So Zillow jumps in at the top to start flipping houses. I’ve heard it all now…

This speculation in housing needs to be eradicated. This is shelter, not some Vegas bet on price increases.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-04-13 20:46:11

The players are committing financial suicide. Problem solved.

 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-04-13 19:53:26

Albany, OR Housing Prices Crater 16% YOY As Housing Correction Ravages West Coast

https://www.movoto.com/albany-or/market-trends/

Comment by redmondjp
2018-04-15 20:01:33

The only ravaging going on is in your empty skull, haystacks.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-04-23 14:42:42

Hello my good friend.

Tukwila WA Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY On Ballooning Seattle Subprime Mortgage Defaults

https://www.movoto.com/tukwila-wa/market-trends/

 
 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 19:53:38

“Housing Financing Fund in Iceland”

Who knew Iceland had a Frauddie Mae counterpart. Is it as rife with corruption as the U.S. GSEs?

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 20:09:46

By all means necessary, avoid committing this form of financial suicide!

You have been duly warned if you are reading this post.

What If You Buy A Home At The Top Of The Market? A Look At The Real Estate Cycle
Posted by Financial Samurai

Where are we in the real estate cycle? One way to tell whether buying a home right now is a good time or not is seeing what the stock market is doing. The stock market reflects earnings expectations 6 – 24 months in advance. You can investigate further and look at sectors in which your location has large exposure e.g. tech in San Francisco, oil in Houston, and banks in New York City.

With the stock market seemingly stuck down 10% from its peak, there is a growing chance that you might be buying at the top of the market in 2018. Exactly what that percentage chance is, nobody knows. Maybe the chance is now 50% for expensive coastal city markets, up from 40% in 2017.

Stocks correct swiftly, while real estate corrects slowly until everybody knows real estate is weakening. Then liquidity dries up and the floor drops out. If the stock market is correcting, it’s time to pay closer attention to any investment you make, especially with leverage.

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-13 21:16:25

Dumb question of the day: Who is buying now, besides latecomer to the pig trough, Zilldow, and the few remaining all-cash foreign investors?

My guess: Low income subprime borrowers funded by the fraudulent GSE lending programs. The Democratic Congress critters will bail them out after they default on their loans in the next crash in exchange for votes.

Here’s to hoping Zilldow, and its chronically upward-biased valuations, disappear when the Housing Bubble collapses.

Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-04-14 09:42:52

What if now isn’t the top, and prices run up for another 5+ years to resemble something a la China or Canaduh?

 
 
 
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Comment by rms
2018-04-14 09:03:32

Interesting read since the MSM has avoided the demographic issue. Thx!

 
 
Comment by Taxpayers
2018-04-14 04:20:56

Looks like Iceland is getting away w stiffing the world

Comment by 2banana
2018-04-14 05:11:15

A special place in my heart for Iceland.

They actually put bankers in jail and refused to bail out the banks. No QE. No TARP. No ZIRP. No massive deficits.

They had a sharp but short lived recession and then had real growth again.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-04-14 07:20:00

“They actually put bankers in jail and refused to bail out the banks.”

Bastards! For that Iceland should be melted!

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-14 08:07:14

The other part of their story I enjoyed was how when the banking sector collapsed in the Great Recession, a bunch of former bank employees returned to their traditional source of livelihood, fishing, instead of standing in the unemployment line, as reported in the Wall Street Journal by a journalist whose German family name, Forelle, translates to “trout” in English.

 
 
Comment by oxide
2018-04-14 05:40:16

iceland is small enough to fail
greece not so much
if they don’t let greece fail US will be ok

Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-14 08:10:00

Too big to fail
Was a great scam the last time
Soon it will repeat

 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-04-14 08:26:01

Has anyone ever bothered to tally the number of different bubbles the central banking cartel created in the runup to the 2007-2009 financial meltdown? There was even a bubble in Icelandic fish quota!

It must make Mr Banker blush with pride to see his industry described in print as “the devil😈.”

Iceland turns from the devil to the deep blue sea
After its financial meltdown, the nation looks to a traditional industry beset by falling prices and depleted stocks
Zoe Wood @zoewoodguardian
Tue 2 Jun 2009 09.51 EDT
First published on Tue 2 Jun 2009 09.51 EDT
Fishing off of the Vetmannaeyjar Islands

In the bright, white late afternoon sunshine, crates of bloody haddock and cod are being piled up in harbour at Grindavik, a fishing town near Reykjavik.

With the banking fairytale over, Iceland is once again relying on the sea for its prosperity. “We didn’t send the Icelandic ship down but now they are counting on us,” says Birgir Hermannsson, first mate on the Duddi Gisla, as he unloads the day’s catch.

The broken nation is regrouping around its traditional fishing industry, which accounted for more than a third of Icelandic exports last year.

But it is not just the icy waters of the northern Atlantic and falling fish prices (down 40% in some markets) the crew of the Duddi Gisla is worried about. The spring election ushered in a coalition government threatening not only to change the decades-old way the country manages its fishing rights but also seek a mandate to join the European Union.

Hermannsson admits to being concerned: “The price of cod has gone down. Fishermen are scared joining the EU means the fishing grounds will be controlled from Brussels.”

Ceding control of its fishing rights will be hard for a small but proud island nation to accept but it should also worry all fish eaters. The common fisheries policy has not set a good example, with recent European commission figures stating that nearly 90% of Europe’s species are being pulled out of the water at unsustainable rates.

Britain’s biggest fish supplier, Iceland is widely respected for a sustainable approach that has resulted in an abundant supply of haddock and cod. Fishing companies own a percentage of the total catch, a figure set each year by scientists.

It is one of just a handful of countries that meets the sustainability criteria Waitrose uses when buying the fish for its stores. The retailer stopped sourcing cod and haddock from the North Sea in 1999 because of concerns over future stocks.

Waitrose fish buyer Quentin Clark says the collapse in fish stocks is a disaster of the same order as climate change: “It’s a no-brainer that we should be supporting sustainable fishing in countries like Iceland where quotas are set on a biological rather than political basis.”

Like Iceland’s homeowners, its fishing companies are also heavily in debt after investing in the now collapsed domestic banking sector. Insiders describe how company executives were seduced on glamorous junkets, being flown by private jet to La Scala in Milan or Old Trafford, depending on the passion of choice.

But those days are long gone. The industry’s debt is estimated to be 400-500bn kronur (£2-2.25bn). Fridrik Arngrímsson, managing director of the Federation of Icelandic Fishing Vessel Owners, says many companies have already been hit by weak demand from important markets such as northern Spain, where recession has suppressed the appetite for salt cod.

“The price of our products has fallen,” says Arngrímsson, who says the combination of debt and quota cuts next year could cause some companies to collapse. “Many companies bought quota for a high price – in some cases too high a price. There was a bubble there also.

 
 
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