A Discussion Of How Far House Prices Will Fall
A report from the San Francisco Chronicle in California. “While much of San Francisco’s housing market continues on at its usual breakneck speed, the luxury market—generally defined as listings above the $2-million mark—usually takes a substantial summer sabbatical. That means that right now sellers in that segment are rapidly slashing prices, trying to get buyers’ attention before the summer slowdown hits. In fact, 22 of the 34 price reductions between May 7 and June 7 were for homes priced above $2 million, according to Paragon Real Estate. There’s another good reason for big cuts—some up to $1 million—in the luxury market. These properties are more likely to be overpriced to begin with.”
“‘More expensive homes have always been much more subject to egregious overpricing; owners and listing agents sometimes have a hard time being realistic when pricing large, beautiful houses,’ said Paragon’s Patrick Carlisle. ‘But even in a crazy hot market, buyers won’t buy homes they consider well overpriced.’ Take a look at the gallery above for some prime examples of listings throughout the city that have taken price cuts in the hundreds of thousands of dollars in the past month.”
From Global News in Canada. “If you’re looking to purchase a home this summer- the odds are in your favour. According to the chair of the Realtors Association, housing inventory is at it’s highest peak since 2008. ‘We had a little bit more in 2008. But it’s definitely the highest since then,’ Darcy Torhjelm said. ‘There’s lots to choose from in just about every category. I’m not seeing prices dropping drastically.’”
From City AM on the UK. “The price of homes in the City and its surrounds has slumped as the London market continues to chill, according to real estate firm Your Move. The research showed that house prices in the City fell 25.9 per cent in the year to April, although this was only on a small number of sales, while prices in Southwark dropped 19.1 per cent. A number of London boroughs have also seen big falls over the last 12 months, with house prices in Wandsworth down 13.1 per cent. Overall, 24 London boroughs have seen prices fall over the year, and just nine have seen them rise.”
From Homes & Property in the UK. “London house sellers are at last getting real: average asking prices have fallen in two out of three boroughs over the past year, according to a new study. Substantial falls have been witnessed in Hackney (3.7 per cent), Hammersmith and Fulham (3.9 per cent), and Ealing (4.5 per cent). There has been a significant 16.4 per cent increase in the number of houses and flats on sale in the capital over the past 12 months.”
“‘The goal posts have just moved,’ said Miles Shipside, Rightmove director. ‘Sellers in locations that have seen larger percentage increases in the number of available properties will have to price lower than properties they are competing against, as there are few better tactics than a bargain price to tempt buyers.’”
“Tom Page, manager of Fyfe Mcdade estate agents in Shoreditch, agreed. ‘There is no space for immature pricing in today’s market,’ he said. ‘There used to be an argument for pricing a property high and trying your luck. However, there are no longer enough buyers in the market for overpriced properties to get attention.’”
From ABC News in Australia. “There are few topics more contentious amongst economists, and at barbeques, than the direction of Australian home prices. But 2018 has marked a dramatic shift in that discussion. In the years between 2012 and 2017, most of the conversation centred on how high home prices could rise. Late last year discussion heated up on whether they might fall. Now that all the major indices are showing falling prices, with leading indicators like housing finance and auction clearance rates showing no signs of a bounce, 2018 has moved on to a discussion of how far house prices will fall.”
“On Monday, those UBS analysts put out a note warning that limits on debt-to-income ratios (DTIs) would further constrain mortgage lending and, therefore, home prices. UBS said APRA is looking at limiting the proportion of loans going to borrowers who have more than six times their annual income in debts. Given that the typical Sydney home is currently nine times the median income, while Melbourne is at eight, UBS argued such a limit would almost inevitably put further downward pressure on home prices as many potential buyers would not be eligible for a loan that was large enough.”
“For those who have been warning of an Australian housing bubble (myself included) this is a clear sign we are in one. If the market was not irrationally overvalued, there would be plenty of cashed-up value investors, not to mention would-be owner-occupiers, to step in and buy as prices fell. But if the main thing holding up demand and prices for expensive homes in Sydney and Melbourne is a belief that a large price fall is not possible, then you are firmly in bubble territory.”
From Nine News in Australia. “Sydney’s housing bubble looks set to finally – if not quite burst – at least deflate somewhat over the next two years. House prices across Greater Sydney have already fallen by 3.4 percent in the past 12 months – more than any other capital city apart from Darwin (where property values are down 7.7 percent). Sydney’s inner regions have seen the biggest price drops. The median value of a Sydney property currently sits at $875,816, but this has plunged sharply in key areas.”
“In Sydney’s CBD and inner south, house prices have fallen dramatically by 13.6 percent since their peak in June last year, while Ryde and the inner west have seen falls of just over 10 percent since August and March 2017 respectively. On the city’s North Shore, property values have fallen by 8.7 percent, while the Northern Beaches didn’t fare much better, recording a 7.5 percent drop since June last year. Western Sydney properties have seen smaller property price falls, with the inner south west, Parramatta, Blacktown and the Baulkham Hills/Hawkesbury regions all recording falls of between 5.9 and 6.8 percent.”
“Macquarie Securities economist Justin Fabo said while market corrections are always worrisome he believes the regulators would be largely delighted with the orderly cooling of housing markets so far. ‘To us the real risk is on the demand side,’ he said. He said if households were to lose faith in housing markets given still-elevated prices, the demand for credit could fall more than he expects. ‘The main thing to fear for Australian housing is fear itself,’ Mr Fabo said.”
“As property prices in Australia have climbed over the past few years, thousands of Australians desperate to get a foothold on the property ladder have used interest-only loans. But the interest-only period on these loans doesn’t last forever. Over the next three years, interest-only loans worth a combined total of about $360 billion will roll over to interest plus principal — and that means borrowers will face higher repayments.”
“For Queensland farm manager Hugh Mackey, 61, the switch to interest-plus-principal repayments may prove too much. He and his wife tried to build a retirement nest egg, buying two investment properties in the coal mining town of Blackwater in 2008, financed by almost half a million dollars in interest-only loans with ANZ. ‘I’m not sure I can retire at 65 the way things are going now,’ he said.”
“The town’s rental market has slumped, the houses have halved in value, and Mr Mackey is struggling to meet his loan repayments.”
“‘At the moment, with interest only, we’re forking out I think approximately $30,000 a year of our own money, separate to the rental income, to not default on the loans.’ Mr Mackey has never missed a payment so far, but this month his loans are switching over to principal-plus-interest. That means he’ll have to find another $12,000 every year to cover the mortgages. He is yet to speak to his bank. ‘If it gets serious and ugly, I presume they can probably bankrupt me,’ he said.”
“Even if he sells both investment properties, he has zero equity and may still owe ANZ about $250,000. He says he regrets ever buying the Blackwater houses. ‘It was probably the worst decision I’ve ever made in my life,’ he says.”
“It has become harder to refinance, with banks applying greater scrutiny to people’s debts and spending habits. By 2015, interest-only loans had grown to almost 40 per cent of outstanding housing credit in Australia. In March 2017, the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority put the brakes on, limiting interest-only lending by the banks to 30 per cent of new home loans. Earlier this month, official data showed new lending to property investors had fallen to its lowest level in two years.”
“But Australia is still exposed with these types of loans when compared to overseas markets. In the UK, 17.6 per cent of home loans are interest only. In the US, where interest-only loans played a role in the global financial crisis, lenders there have only recently started offering these types of loans again, but with extra safeguards.”
‘While much of San Francisco’s housing market continues on at its usual breakneck speed’
This is irrational. Just how can shacks go up at a ‘usual breakneck speed’? Do these writers even read what they type?
‘Even if he sells both investment properties, he has zero equity and may still owe ANZ about $250,000. He says he regrets ever buying the Blackwater houses. ‘It was probably the worst decision I’ve ever made in my life,’ he says.’
This is where jingle can jump in and tell us how great gambling on shacks is the best decision ever!
‘I’m not sure I can retire at 65 the way things are going now’
Jingle? Jingle?
Beuller?
Supposedly Jingle already sold, so the money’s in the bag!
“As property prices in Australia have climbed over the past few years, thousands of Australians desperate to get a foothold on the property ladder have used interest-only loans.
Interest only loans. 😁
“But the interest-only period on these loans doesn’t last forever. Over the next three years, interest-only loans worth a combined total of about $360 billion will roll over to interest plus principal — and that means borrowers will face higher repayments.”
😁
“For Queensland farm manager Hugh Mackey, 61, the switch to interest-plus-principal repayments may prove too much. He and his wife tried to build a retirement nest egg, buying two investment properties in the coal mining town of Blackwater in 2008, financed by almost half a million dollars in interest-only loans with ANZ. ‘I’m not sure I can retire at 65 the way things are going now,’ he said.”
Oh, but I probably will be able to. 😁
“The town’s rental market has slumped, the houses have halved in value, and Mr Mackey is struggling to meet his loan repayments.”
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
“‘At the moment, with interest only, we’re forking out I think approximately $30,000 a year of our own money, separate to the rental income, to not default on the loans.’ Mr Mackey has never missed a payment so far, but this month his loans are switching over to principal-plus-interest. That means he’ll have to find another $12,000 every year to cover the mortgages. He is yet to speak to his bank. ‘If it gets serious and ugly, I presume they can probably bankrupt me,’ he said.”
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
“Even if he sells both investment properties, he has zero equity and may still owe ANZ about $250,000. He says he regrets ever buying the Blackwater houses.
😁
“It has become harder to refinance, with banks applying greater scrutiny to people’s debts and spending habits. By 2015, interest-only loans had grown to almost 40 per cent of outstanding housing credit in Australia. In March 2017, the Australian Prudential Regulation Authority put the brakes on, limiting interest-only lending by the banks to 30 per cent of new home loans. Earlier this month, official data showed new lending to property investors had fallen to its lowest level in two years.”
Austrailia: Another nation filled with dummies.
‘If it gets serious and ugly, I presume they can probably bankrupt me’ Even if he sells both investment properties, he has zero equity and may still owe ANZ about $250,000′
Hugh, you are already bankrupt.
“They” didn’t bankrupt you, Hugh. That was all you, Flipper Boy.
Mr Mackey has never missed a payment so far, but this month his loans are switching over to principal-plus-interest. That means he’ll have to find another $12,000 every year to cover the mortgages. He is yet to speak to his bank.
Cue the voice of Col Kurtz: “The schlonging…the schlonging….”
360 billion dollars of interest only loans coming due in Australia just in the next few years. God knows how many in all in a country with a small fraction of our population. Well played Mr. Banker, well played.
Thank you.
Mr. Banker played it well only if the Australian government foams the runway for him. Is Aus decides to do what Iceland did, than Mr. Banker is toast.
Better add another shot to your morning latte.
Don’t conflate Jingle with this idiot in Aus. Jingle bought low, rented to cover carrying costs, and is currently selling high. Which is what you’re supposed to do. This idiot in Aus bought high — with an I/O loan no less — and is going to lose his shirt.
Not much parallel there.
“Jingle? Jingle?”
He’s underwater and sinking.
‘Tom Page, manager of Fyfe Mcdade estate agents in Shoreditch, agreed. ‘There is no space for immature pricing in today’s market,’ he said. ‘There used to be an argument for pricing a property high and trying your luck. However, there are no longer enough buyers in the market for overpriced properties to get attention.’
Yep, behold loan owners! You are now being scolded by the UHS for not taking an a$$-pounding to get the sale done. Not what they were telling you a year ago, eh?
Is this scathing report the death knell for bitcoin?
By Michael Hiltzik
Jun 18, 2018 | 12:40 PM
Is this scathing report the death knell for bitcoin?
Shown is a bitcoin display from a computer conference in Taiwan this month. (Ritchie B. Tongo / EPA / Shutterstock)
As if bitcoin fans didn’t have enough to worry about these days, a widely respected international bank has just published a scathing analysis of the cryptocurrency questioning whether it ever will be more than a fad — and a costly fad for its adherents.
The report by the Swiss-based Bank for International Settlements doesn’t present any particularly novel questions about bitcoin and related virtual currencies. But it brings together all the existing questions and validates them, with facts and figures.
The BIS says its goal was to look “beyond the hype” of bitcoin. What it found was a currency-like system that can’t handle a scaling up of transactions, can’t provide the trustworthiness required for a functioning currency, and requires so much computing power to keep track of exchanges that it already has become “an environmental disaster.”
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-bitcoin-bank-20180618-story.html
“The BIS says its goal was to look “beyond the hype” of bitcoin.”
Why I, myself did that, I looked beyond the hype of bitcoin and I found … I found that there was nuthin there.
Really MR. Bankers had did you get less than 25 million people get so far in debt that they have 360 billion dollars in interest only loans coming due in three years. On a per capita basis, they put us to “shame”. You must be very proud of the Australians.
I did not get anyone in debt. This is something they did for themselves.
I merely laid out a few sheets of paper that had some rather interesting words printed on them and (amazingly!) they signed their names on the dotted lines.
I did supply the pen though.
Please tell me the FBs got Spiderman towels as well.
Since Bitcoin’s been rising the past few days, I’m not sure this article had any effect whatsoever.
The crypto Kool-Aid is so strong that it will take a complete collapse below $1,000 to shake their faith. Remember, we’re still near last November’s price, which was triple that of a few months prior.
It’s worthless, so analysis is also worthless.
Another day, another “secure” Bitcoin exchange hacked, this time for $30 million dollars worth of the scam currency.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-19/cryptos-tumble-after-south-koreas-bithumb-exchange-hacked
Heh, I’m starting to wonder if it’s the bitcoin exchange owners who are hacking the exchanges themselves, and lining their own pockets with the proceeds.
“That means that right now sellers in that segment are rapidly slashing prices, trying to get buyers’ attention before the summer slowdown hits. In fact, 22 of the 34 price reductions between May 7 and June 7 were for homes priced above $2 million, according to Paragon Real Estate. There’s another good reason for big cuts—some up to $1 million—in the luxury market. These properties are more likely to be overpriced to begin with.”
“…before the summer slowdown hits.”
Is that a thing in red hot markets, where real estate always goes up?
how about nuclear winter
I’m calling 4th qtr 2019 recession
CALLED IT !
If you’re right we can all look forward to President Running Deer moving into the White House.
Right after that DNA test.
On second thought: if we are in a recession, just how likely am I to vote for someone who would go back to shipping jobs overseas, borrowing money to protect rich “allies”, give citizenship to millions and bring in millions more who will work for peanuts or flop out on welfare?
Will Fauxahontus, the so-faux “Champion of the Middle Class” pick that other self-described fighter for “us” AKA Screech, as her running mate? I can think of few things more retchworthy than that particular ticket.
if we are in a recession, just how likely am I to vote for someone who …
It worked the last time a nasty recession started under the GOP’s watch. People even voted for a candidate whose citizenship was under question and didn’t seem to care about his race or that he attended a Madrassa in Indonesia. Senator Running Deer is a very real possibility, I fear.
I don’t. My old work boots could have beat that senile crackpot McCain.
Debt Donkeys love to be herded by Senatard Running Deer.
Well, sure, you and millions of others didn’t vote for Obama, but enough people did … twice. Of course, the GOP’s candidates at the time didn’t help. If the crash many here on this blog salivate over comes to pass, Senator Running Deer could become “Madame President”
I’m not eager for a crash, just watching it. Anything can happen in elections. But it’s worth remembering that Screech was run as Obama’s third term, but without a penis! A lot has changed in politics in the past few years. All over the world.
Michael Moore Puts Obama’s Legacy In Sad, Simple Terms
The Young Turks
1M views3 years ago
“Political documentarian Michael Moore has repeatedly expressed his frustrations with President Obama, but this week he really stuck the knife in, saying in an interview that Obama will be remember…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMuuaO-YLKE
“but without a penis!”
You sure about that? This is the party of freaks and degenerates you’re talking about. They can be 1 or more of 64 possible genders. We’re talking star trek type creatures.
People with gender dysphoria…
4th quarter 2019 is way too late. I think we’ll be in a recession by the first quarter of next year.
Rumple,
We’ve been in recession for a decade or more.
Danville, CA Rental Rates Crater 7% YOY On Falling Housing Prices As National Housing Inventory Hits Record High
https://www.zillow.com/wellesley-ma/home-values/
*Select price from dropdown menu on rental chart
million dollar listing NYC show is all about price chopping- and looks like it was recorded last winter
The space force will save 22151 / N VA and Oxide too
You’re fooked McWhinny:
“Sellers and prospective buyers at times had a difficult mating ritual in May across the Northern Virginia real estate market, with the result being a year-over-year decline in overall sales. One trend popping up across the region? Buyers are coming into the market with a ’stop-and-go mentality,’ said Gary Lange, managing broker of the Vienna office of Weichert, Realtors.”
“Clients are ‘hot and heavy’ when they begin the search for a new home, then go cold quickly, Lange said. ‘Some of that may be due to a lack of inventory, they are looking for a deal, or they just don’t have a serious need to buy,’ Lange said. That lack of inventory created a feeding frenzy earlier in the year, but the dynamics are changing slightly, with cases of buyers’ remorse impacting the market.”
“‘Sometimes buyers have successfully bid for a home, then realize the home really isn’t for them or they paid to much,’ Lange said. ‘It is easy to get caught up in the moment when a buyer makes a hasty decision about a home for fear of losing that opportunity.’”
“Buyers feeling trapped after signing a purchase agreement at times have been backing out over minor home-inspection issues, said Lange, who suggested those in the industry needed to step in and have all parties focus on the big picture. ‘Agents must counsel buyers and sellers about the way the housing market works,’ he said.”
http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=10464
From the same post:
The Press Democrat in California. “Home prices rose to new highs in Sonoma County in May, when the median hit a record $692,250, but there are indications the unrelenting price increases may be starting to test buyers’ limits. Over the past six years, the median price has more than doubled, climbing from $329,000 in May 2012. Last month, the median jumped nearly 11 percent, compared to a year ago. Before the crash, the median price hit a high of $619,000 in August 2005, then plunged to a low of $305,000 in February 2009. The 2005 high wasn’t surpassed until March 2017, when the median hit $635,000. New record prices since have been set six more times — before May, the most recent occasion was in February at $689,000.”
“Bill Facendini, president and broker of Terra Firma Global Partners in Santa Rosa, said in the past three months a significant number of sellers have reduced prices of properties after failing to initially land buyers. Sellers typically try to keep raising prices above what their neighbors obtained in recent sales, he said. But buyers these days seem less inclined to pay the higher amounts. ‘They don’t feel that need right now,’ Facendini said. He called it a sign that the market is in transition and price appreciation could slow, if not level off.”
“Lisa Thomas, an agent with Pacific Union in Santa Rosa, said buyers seem more cautious about overpaying. Also, those that have been looking since winter now have more choices, as additional homes have come to market this spring.”
Golly, a bunch of these “usual breakneck speeds” are hitting a brick wall.
‘Sellers and prospective buyers at times had a difficult mating ritual’
Don’t get fooked in the mating ritual.
Buyers got schlonged. There was no courtship, affection, or lube.
There was plenty of lube, courtesy of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other providers of federally guaranteed financing.
‘in the past three months a significant number of sellers have reduced prices of properties after failing to initially land buyers’
Waa? Shortage! Also, read the entire story to see how hosed are the people who are trying to sell burned lots.
“people who are trying to sell burned lots.”
Most of the time you can give away land. That’s why it’s better known as ‘worthless dirt’.
past 6 years
wake me up when prices exceed 2006 by 20%-
then you are at par w the last peak -inflation adjusted
‘wake me up when…’
‘If it gets serious and ugly, I presume they can probably bankrupt me’ Even if he sells both investment properties, he has zero equity and may still owe ANZ about $250,000. He says he regrets ever buying the Blackwater houses. ‘It was probably the worst decision I’ve ever made in my life’
Hugh got woke recently. Problem is it’s too late. Probably best to keep your eyes open Rumpelstiltskin.
Irrelevant.
What inflation?
‘BARGAINING: We want life returned to what is was. We want to go back in time, stop the accident from happening…if only, if only, if only. Guilt is often bargaining’s companion…We will do anything not to feel the pain of this loss. We remain in the past, trying to negotiate our way out of the hurt. People often think of the stages as lasting weeks or months. They forget that the stages are responses to feelings that can last for minutes or hours as we flip in and out of one and then another. We do not enter and leave each individual stage in a linear fashion. We may feel one, then another and back again to the first one.’
https://grief.com/the-five-stages-of-grief/
unfortunately, Seattle is much more than 20% above the 2007 peak. It will be a very slow, long decline as there is still a lot of $s coming in
Casual observation: The pace of bubble and bust cycles plays out like paint dries. It is very hard to detect a parabolic price movement or subsequent collapse by watching the day-to-day fluctuations in asset prices.
Perhaps this explains why the Fed claims to only be able to spot bubbles in hindsight.
“the Fed claims to only be able to $pot bubble$ in hindsight.”
The water$ flow$ over the tub rim
Onto the floor$ it goe$
drip$, drip$, drip$
Down the floor level$ it goe$
…
$uddenly, a choru$ exclaim$:
“hey, what’$ dripping from the ceiling onto our Martini’$”?
Potomac Falls, VA Housing Prices Crater 17% YOY As NoVa/DC Housing Market Tanks
https://www.movoto.com/potomac-falls-va/market-trends/
‘housing inventory is at it’s highest peak since 2008. ‘We had a little bit more in 2008. But it’s definitely the highest since then,’ Darcy Torhjelm said. ‘There’s lots to choose from in just about every category. I’m not seeing prices dropping drastically.’
That’s probably why you are up to your eyeballs in shacks Darcy.
‘every category’
Hmmm,and just yesterday we were told by a poster that this is just a luxury thing.
‘housing inventory is at it’s highest peak since 2008.”
“I’m not seeing prices dropping drastically.’
That happened in 2009.
While the rising prices have begun to affect the affordability home purchases for many, it has increased household net worth among those who already own. Aggregate net worth reached $100 trillion for the first time in the first quarter as gains in home equity and other components compensated for the first drop in stock market wealth in 10 quarters. — Mortgage News Daily
And those sweet, sweet property taxes for politicians magically increase as well too.
Subtle purchasing power capture is an art form.
‘Further tension in U.S.-China relations could end up hurting some iconic U.S. companies the most, said Jim O’Neill, an economist and the chairman of think tank Chatham House.’
“I often say to people that America’s most iconic modern company, Apple, has for three years sold more iPhones to Greater China than it has to the U.S. So ultimately, if the U.S. genuinely takes this kind of belligerent stance, it’s going to be the U.S.’ best-growing companies that will suffer,” O’Neill told CNBC.’
Sounds like Apple is a Chinese company Jim. Makes walkie talkies there, sells them there. Just move there entirely and do us all a favor.
Oh, it’s a bunch of “royal” worshiping globalists.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/#
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gD4p86GCJbE/TYq2osZqyDI/AAAAAAAAAgw/Kqvft9Q3lW0/s1600/Woman6.jpg
Oxide has joined the Space Force
When Trumpf said “separate but equal” everyone sht
The actual Donk Craterton?
https://youtu.be/gROO7xSTxfY
Someone was talking about safe guvmint jobs yesterday:
NSW budget: soft housing market takes $5.5bn toll on revenue
The Australian-3 hours ago
The housing market slowdown will cost the state $5.5 billion over the next three years and lead to a $1bn miss in this year’s forecast revenue. In a dire warning to …
Do they have a printing press in Oz?
Its going to take a lot of math skills. Donks need not apply.
Maybe 1 woman for every 30 men, except for “muh diversity” hires who will look like men but lack any critical thinking skills and compensate with anger and faux vulgarity.
Orbital mechanics, yo. Cant be filling yo pretty head with all that painful maffs.
I learned about orbitals in grad school, but not in the way that you’re thinking.
6 Reasons Housing Is About To Become Even More Unaffordable:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5b27c1f1e4b056b2263c621e
Realtors are liars.
2. America Isn’t Building Enough Homes
Before the recession, America built around 1.1 million new homes per year. In its best year since, the country built just 849,000.
This makes no sense. Though the American population has been growing steadily, there are now fewer homes on the market than in any year since 1982. Despite seemingly bottomless demand, the construction of apartment buildings fell by 10 percent last year. ‘
I think they mean enough cheap homes. Homes are expensive to maintain build cheap homes and they will just fall apart in a few years.
then what ?
Also I’m old enough to remember when “homes” meant an SFH with a yard. But now they can build 800 condoze on an acre and call them “homes.” I wonder if apartments count as homes?
It’s all inventory Donk.
They will when all these “luxury” apartment buildings are sold as condos for nosebleed prices.
“I wonder if apartment$ count as home$?”
This is how they labeled/marketed:
Welcome to your new: Apartment Home!
Though the American population has been growing steadily, there are now fewer homes on the market than in any year since 1982
There will always appear to be a shortage until it no longer pays to speculate.
The key phrase, guys, is “on the market”.
There may very well be a shortage of “on the market” inventory.
That said, there is definitely NO shortage of domiciles. There’s empty crap all over the country. Empty McMansions. Empty “second homes”. Empty “vacation homes”. Empty condos. Empty apartments.
Many of those empty domiciles are in fact “owned” and/or “mortgaged”. They are not “on the market”. They are traded among “investors” and hedge funds.
They may never be made available for sale in the general marketplace.
Realtors are liars.
Kenmore, WA Housing Prices Crater 9% YOY As Seattle Economy Seizes Up
https://www.movoto.com/kenmore-wa/market-trends/
What exactly is it that you are smoking there Haystacks AKA Mortgage Watch AKA Mafia Blocks . . .
I bet you have never even been to Seattle and couldn’t find Kenmore if somebody put a gun to your head.
Falling prices are what they are my good friend.
Bellevue WA Housing Prices Crater 13% YOY
https://www.movoto.com/bellevue-wa/market-trends/
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2018/06/19/california-gets-f-grade-from-truth-in-accounting/
More pension woes ahead
B…b…but….we had posters on this very HBB who exclaimed that California was in the black just a few years as a result of Jerry Brown’s efforts!
And guess what? I remember who those posters were.
Linda Ronstadt $ingin’: “poor, poor pitiful me”
Angelo Mozilo has identified the real victim of the housing bubble: Him
By Steve Goldstein. Published: June 19, 2018
Mozilo does not share that opinion. In an interview with The Wall Street Journal’s Christina Rexrode, Mozilo said it was the liquidity crunch that was to blame, and “not subprime mortgages, not Countrywide, not Angelo Mozilo.”
“Well I lay my head on the railroad track
Waiting on the Double E
But the train don’t run by here no more
Poor poor pitiful me”
So how far will prices fall?
Did the tariff tantrum schlong your stock market HODLings?
Dow closes lower for a 6th straight session as tariff tantrum drags stock market lower
By Mark DeCambre and Ryan Vlastelica
Published: June 19, 2018 4:56 p.m. ET
Dow turns negative for 2018, down 0.1% year to date
Reuters
China’s Ministry of Commerce spokesperson Gao Feng attends a news conference in Beijing Tuesday.
U.S. stocks finished in the red on Tuesday, albeit off session lows, as investors shed stocks following President Donald Trump’s late-Monday threat to slap an additional $400 billion in tariffs on China goods. The announcement represented the latest escalation in a tit-for-tat dispute between the No. 1 and 2 largest economies in the world, rattling investors.
…
Only the triple “A”‘$ trading$ team is running the ba$e$ in the $ummer league, the big.button$ pushing boy$ won’t $tart $winging until after labor$ day.
$tay tuned!
Russia cuts Treasury holdings in half as foreigners start losing appetite for US debt
- Foreign governments have pared back their holdings of U.S. debt, reducing the total by nearly $10 billion in March and April.
- Russia was notable among the group stepping back with a nearly 50 percent cut.
- The U.S. government needs buyers of its debt as the Fed continues to reduce its holdings and the budget deficit is projected to surge in coming years.
Jeff Cox | @JeffCoxCNBCcom
Published 11:30 AM ET Mon, 18 June 2018 Updated 2:41 PM ET Mon, 18 June 2018
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Free trade! Free trade! Free trade!
Oh, Canada!
Canada just legalized marijuana. That has big implication$ for US drug policy.
It’s the second country in the world to legalize pot, following Uruguay.
By German Lopez on June 19, 2018 / Vox
Canada has become the first wealthy nation in the world to fully legalize marijuana.
The Senate approved Bill C-45, also known as the Cannabis Act, on Tuesday. The measure was already approved by the House of Commons, so the Senate’s approval means it’s now set to become law.
The measure legalizes marijuana possession, home growing, and sales for adults. The federal government will oversee remaining criminal sanctions (for, say, selling to minors) and the licensing of producers, while provincial governments will manage sales, distribution, and related regulations — as such, provinces will be able to impose tougher rules, such as raising the minimum age. The statute largely follows recommendations made by a federal task force on marijuana legalization.
Oh Canada …
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
https://youtu.be/aYHDzrdXHEA
That 45th parallel is about to get a LOT more interesting.
Hillsboro Beach, FL Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY On Rampant Mortgage Fraud
https://www.movoto.com/hillsboro-beach-fl/market-trends/
Oh dear. Looks like ten million Chinese “investors” in a shadow banking Ponzi may have just been fleeced.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-19/80-billion-yuan-3-year-old-online-lending-platform-10-million-users-implodes-may-be
‘Others invested hoping to save up for a home. One homebuyer is closing on a house and their downpayment is locked up: The maximum amount invested by the investors who reported on the scene was nearly 3 million yuan, and small investors also invested tens of thousands of yuan. “This is the money I bought for the house. The deposit for the house was paid. There are days to expire. Now the money is not available.” An investor reluctantly said, “The day before yesterday put 50,000 yuan yesterday. With 10,000 yuan, it will be able to arrive quickly, but it is not enough to withdraw it today.” Most investors’ investments are due in the near future. This is why many investors have not mentioned it before.’
‘The recent Chairman of the China Banking Regulatory Commission, Guo Shuqing, said: “In the fight against illegal fundraising, efforts should be made to make people realize that high-income means high risk and that the rate of return exceeding 6% will be questioned, exceeding 8%. Is very dangerous, more than 10% will be prepared to lose all of the principal.”
‘more than 10% will be prepared to lose all of the principal’
‘Flip It Good! Top 10 Home-Flipping Hotbeds Where Profits Are Through the Roof
By Lance Lambert | May 23, 2018′
‘Florida and California dominated our initial rankings. In total, these two states had five of the top 10 and 17 of the top 30 markets for flipping. To give readers a better view of where flipping has taken off around the country, we limited our ranking to two metros per state.’
‘Now let’s go to the places where home flippers make it rain.’
https://www.realtor.com/news/trends/top-markets-for-home-flippers/
Florida and California. Have flippers ever run into trouble in those states?
“…more than 10% will be prepared to lose all of the principal.”
Where does $h!tcoin rank on that scale?
Right now it’s about minus 75%. Almost there.
Poor, poor Alphonso.
I have seen some bad acting in my time but they are taking it to a whole new level.
Rachel Maddow Breaks Down in Tears Delivering News of Migrant Babies Being Detained
by Tamar Auber | 10:49 pm, June 19th, 2018
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rachel-maddow-breaks-down-on-air-delivering-news-of-migrant-babies-being-detained/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHzGxEzDQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0-oinyjsk0
This acting lesson was specially picked out for Rachel Maddow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9-PjBTn7Ec
What makes you think she doesn’t genuinely feel sad reporting that sad, sad story?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M8szlSa-8o
Yeah, well Jonothan Swift one time long, long ago offered up a modest proposal to handle such situations.
Go here …
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Modest_Proposal
Surprisingly, the Grumpy Oldman’s Party didn’t go there. Time for a tactical retreat to appease angry voters, even though Swift’s Modest Proposal would have been more in tune with the wantonly mean spirited policies they favor.
But … but … but Six Sigma! Jack Welch!
https://www.wsj.com/articles/walgreens-to-replace-ge-in-dow-industrials-1529443336
But Walgreens has opioids.
Housing has become priced out of reach for most Americans. Heckova job, Ben & Janet.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-state-of-the-nations-housing-stagnant-unequal-far-too-expensive-2018-06-19
$2.6M for a 900 sq ft cottage in Palo Alto, CA. Even the permabull shills of the MSM are calling this nuts.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/home-price-insanity-2-6-million-for-900-square-feet/
Anyone looking to buy in Palo Alto, CA. right now has that coming to them and more.
Average Denver SFH up $171K in four years, yet wages have stagnated. Seems sustainable to me.
http://www.westword.com/news/denver-average-single-family-home-prices-june-2018-10416811
“Seems sustainable to me.”
+1 Click your heels three times, “There’s no place like home.”
Falls Church, VA 22046 Housing Prices Crater 14% YOY As Desperate NoVA Home Sellers Slash Prices
https://www.zillow.com/falls-church-va-22046/home-values/
*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart
The MSM permabull touts and shills have evidently hired the former Iraqi Propaganda Minister, Baghdad Bob, to assist in crafting The Narrative that no matter how much our purchasing power is being debased and our standards of living are dropping, Everything is Awesome - Buy Moar Stawks!
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/higher-gas-prices-hurt-but-not-as-much-as-they-used-to-heres-why-2018-06-19
Everything is awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y
’70s style stagflation? Inconceivable! says the Fed. (Given the Fed’s track record on economic prognostication, somehow this fails to reassure me.)
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/powell-says-us-economy-not-on-verge-of-repeating-the-inflation-of-the-1970s-2018-06-20?mod=bnbh
Are you snapping up the stock market’s dead cat bounce today?