June 20, 2018

If You Do A Price Drop, Buyers Think Your Price Is Flexible

A report from The Oregonian. “Portland’s housing market is showing signs of relief for would-be buyers. The inventory of homes on the market climbed in May. Fewer bidding wars broke out, and price growth has slowed. But it’s a tale of two markets, brokers say. While the top of the market is cooling off, there’s still stiff competition over homes that are affordable to first-time buyers. New numbers from the Regional Multiple Listing Service show there were 5,380 homes on the market at the end the month, the most of any May since 2014. Sales, however, are falling. The listing service said some 2,800 homes sold in May, a decline of 3.2 percent compared to a year ago.”

“Homeowners looking to sell, having watched the red-hot run of recent years, are still adjusting to the slower gains. Some are overly aggressive in pricing their homes, which can backfire if you have to drop your price, said Dustin Miller, a broker with Windermere Realty Trust in Lake Oswego. ‘If the buyers see you do a price drop, now they think your price is flexible, especially if you’ve been on the market for a long time,’ Miller said.”

From The Globest on Illinois. “Prices steadily increased last month throughout the metropolitan Chicago housing market, an echo of the numbers recorded in May 2017, RE/MAX reports. But the firm also found that the market has essentially split in two, and the luxury market has a very different story than the one for more affordable homes. ‘There is an extraordinary amount of inventory for luxury homes,’ Paul Wells, a real estate expert with RE/MAX in Barrington, IL, tells GlobeSt.com. But few moderately-priced homes, meaning those costing less than $550,000, are hitting the market.”

“The number of homes selling for $550,000 and above increased by 60 units, or +4.7%, while inventory in those categories now range from a 5.1-month supply to as high as a 25-month supply. ‘I still believe the average person is not comfortable with the economy,’ Wells adds. And many are also reluctant to put their homes up for sale. The lack of moderately-priced homes has in some ways become a vicious circle as many feel they won’t find a replacement home. Furthermore, ‘there is very little new construction.’ Still, ‘it’s all very good for homeowners, because it’s driving up prices.’”

From The Real Deal on Florida. “A member of the Soffer family is suing the development group behind The Ritz-Carlton Residences, Miami Beach over the condominium project’s construction delays, and is looking to get her deposit back. It’s the fourth lawsuit filed by buyers in the last four months, all seeking a refund of deposits due to delays. Marsha Soffer filed suit in Miami-Dade County Circuit Court last month against the development group, 4701 North Meridian LLC, which is a partnership between Ophir Sternberg’s Lionheart Capital and Elliott Management Corp. Soffer is alleging breach of contract and is seeking a refund of her $2.52 million deposit.”

“‘Basically, we want our deposit back,’ said Soffer’s lawyer David Haber. ‘They (the developer) didn’t and couldn’t deliver.’”

The Loudoun Times in Virginia. “Average sale prices were flat but overall home sales activity increased by 5.7 percent year-over-year in May, according to an analysis of the Loudoun County real estate market. New listing activity decreased in May versus last year (-5.8 percent) as Loudoun County added 1,035 new homes to the market. The erratic change in new listings from month to month signals little long-term relief from the market’s consistently low home supply. Overall price growth continued to stagnate in May as median sale prices were identical to last month and May 2017 at $475,000.”

“Great Falls’ 22066 remains the county’s zip code with the highest median sales price continues at $915,000, despite declining 8.0 percent from May 2017. For the second straight month, Sterling’s 20165 saw the largest decline in median sales price from the prior year – declining 13.9 percent to $450,000. Sterling’s 20164 continues as the county’s least expensive zip code with a median sale price of $386,500 in May.”

The Sun Advocate in Utah. “1,806. That number got quite a bit of attention among area Realtors. It was tucked into a recently released economic development report produced by Lewis Young Robertson & Burningham on behalf of Carbon County. It supposedly reflects the number of vacant housing units in Carbon County, amounting to nearly 20 percent of all homes in the area. One reason the statistic worries Realtors is because they believe it could negatively impact the market, which has seen increasing values lately.”

“‘We were up a lot from 2016. We had a really busy market in 2017,’ said Balynda Scovill, president of the Carbon-Emery Board of Realtors. ‘Values didn’t go up a ton, but they did go up a little bit. Our days on market went down.’”

“A look further shows the Census Bureau reported similar numbers for other years. In 2016, for example, it reported the number of vacant homes in Carbon County was 1,861. In 2014, it reported 1,752 vacant homes. In 2013, it was 1,773; and, in 2012, 1,768. First quarter home sales and listings provided by Scovill indeed reflect the strongest first quarter in more than five years. The activity suggests everyone should disregard what the Census Bureau is reporting. It just isn’t true.”

The Daily Independent in California. “The Ridgecrest Police Department got together with concerned citizens, including many realtors and contractors, to discuss strategies and options for dealing with abandoned properties in Ridgecrest. Asked how many abandoned houses and buildings there are in Ridgecrest, Chief Jed McLaughlin replied ‘there’s a ton.’”

“McLaughlin said RPD can help find property owners and their current addresses. Several realtors seemed happy to hear this. Many agreed that many of the properties in question tend to be owned by investors who do not live in Ridgecrest. ‘Have you guys found that its difficult even when you do find the people? Are they not willing to talk? Not willing to sell?’ McLaughlin asked. ‘Or do they just want so much money that its not worth it?’”

“‘All of the above,’ someone said with a laugh.”

From News.com.au on California. “The glittering Lake Merritt is a popular spot with affluent families, surrounded by luxury homes and the expensive offices of major tech companies. Just a few blocks away, people living in squalid tents are begging the local authority workers to stop throwing their battered possessions into garbage trucks, as the police calmly look on. This is normality in Oakland, California, one of the most dangerous cities in the Golden State and victim of a rapidly widening wealth divide created by Silicon Valley.”

“One in 12 people in Oakland was at risk of falling victim to a crime in 2017, and the city has a higher murder rate than troubled San Francisco, with 20 reported homicides per 100,000 individuals, as well as 65.2 rapes, 723.8 robberies, and 616.7 aggravated assaults for every 100,000 people in 2016. While the city has improved its crime rates in recent years, the majority of the top 10 most dangerous Californian cities are satellite towns close by — Stockton, Modesto, Vallejo, Richmond.”

“‘Rental costs have tripled in the last few years in the Bay Area,’ Mission for the Homeless director Michael Meadows tells news.com.au. ‘The gap between the rich and the poor continues to widen.’”

“Housing is so expensive in the San Francisco Bay Area that even most people who work at a full-time job can’t afford the rent,’ says Heather Freinkel, Managing Attorney at the Homeless Action Center. ‘Rent for a one-bedroom apartment is $2000 [$A2686] a month. That means that people who are retired, those with disabilities, and families with children can’t afford market rate housing. There is a great deal of construction going on, but it’s all to build more market-rate, expensive luxury housing.’”

“‘We are seeing families lose homes that they have owned for generations due to foreclosure or predatory developers who buy at a low price, do some superficial remodelling, and ‘flip’ or sell the property soon after to make hundreds of thousands of dollars in a time-span of three to six months.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 07:50:06

‘Great Falls’ 22066 remains the county’s zip code with the highest median sales price continues at $915,000, despite declining 8.0 percent from May 2017. For the second straight month, Sterling’s 20165 saw the largest decline in median sales price from the prior year – declining 13.9 percent to $450,000.’

Closing in on you taxpayer.

‘It supposedly reflects the number of vacant housing units in Carbon County, amounting to nearly 20 percent of all homes in the area…sales and listings provided by Scovill indeed reflect the strongest first quarter in more than five years. The activity suggests everyone should disregard what the Census Bureau is reporting. It just isn’t true.’

Did Balynda also suggest sticking ones fingers in their ears and yelling - “lalalalalalla - I can’t hear you!”

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-20 10:27:35

and “…abandoned properties in Ridgecrest”

Makes you wonder why the Census would mislead Rental Watch and his merry band of investors.

Comment by Neuromance
2018-06-20 16:59:48

The Census gets a lot of data from the NAR, which is really quite astounding. The NAR has one mission, the Census purportedly quite another. But, with a government under regulatory capture, I suppose it’s to be expected.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2018-06-20 11:24:13

Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhh I’m w the poor folk in 22151. I did send that to Sir Toppem Hat in Great Falls.

 
Comment by oxide
2018-06-20 11:27:36

Houses listed and bought can still be vacant, right?

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-20 19:29:37

No, according to the rules it is not “vacant” if it is not for sale or rent.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 07:52:53

The last article is an eye opener:

‘He and his partner began dumpster diving, visiting soup kitchens to find food and “spanging” (spare changing) for money. “The homeless community taught us how to get given money,” he says. “You stand in certain places and ask for money, they give you money because they know you’re homeless because of where you’re standing.”

‘One of his biggest challenges was keeping his girlfriend out of sex work. “A big part of Oakland is pimping, pimping women, and a lot of people were always trying to get her,” he says.’

‘A recent viral video showed a topless male jogger, smartphone strapped to his arm, chucking a homeless person’s blankets and belongings into the shining lake, as passers-by begged him to stop.’

‘Another showed a white woman approach a black couple preparing for their usual weekend lakeside cookout to tell them she was calling the police over their trespassing. “Y’all going to jail,” she told the pair, in footage that sparked a mass protest called #BBQingWhileBlack.’

‘The lake is surrounded by ever-growing tent cities, which extend into the city beyond, below underpasses and outside the Warriors stadium, where people pay from $250 to $10,000 a ticket.’

Wow, paradise…

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 08:04:16

‘‘Have you guys found that its difficult even when you do find the people? Are they not willing to talk? Not willing to sell?’ McLaughlin asked. ‘Or do they just want so much money that its not worth it?’

‘All of the above,’ someone said with a laugh.’

Ha ha! We’re a bunch of greedy bashtards! Now get out there and get your wimmens turning tricks.

Comment by jeff99az
2018-06-20 16:15:48

A sh*thole paradise.

Comment by Montana
2018-06-20 19:22:23

Ridgecrest is in the middle of BFE nowhere.

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Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 10:56:47

‘The lake is surrounded by ever-growing tent cities, which extend into the city beyond, below underpasses and outside the Warriors stadium, where people pay from $250 to $10,000 a ticket.’

Wow, paradise…

Ben, How ok is it to bring up discussions of the homeless crisis here as a semi-separate topic?

The homeless situation has pretty much gone nuclear/exponential here in Seattle, and the city counsel and mayor are clueless as to how much widespread pent up anger there is and how likely it’s going to be directed at them next election. Plenty of side-discussions possible.

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 11:00:49

‘is it to bring up discussions of the homeless crisis here’

As Homer Simpson said, do I have to do anything?

Comment by oxide
2018-06-20 11:39:36

Meaning, OK as long as the posts don’t doesn’t need a lot of moderating? (cuss words, flagged words, links etc) Or get too political since that easily escalates into arguments that need moderation.

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Comment by rms
2018-06-20 18:24:44

My unqualified observation regarding the growth of the homeless problem is that it’s demographics at work, i.e., the early and late boomers who are no longer able to function in the labor pool. Off-shoring of factory work is the other half of the story.

No longer employed I am getting a variety of medical procedures performed since I didn’t have the time. Anyway, the medical world is jam packed with people such that the doctors are busy like veterinarians in a feedlot… again the demographic crunch.

I can well remember the looming demographic talk back in the eighties when Ronald “Mommy?!” Reagan was successful in allowing corporations to under fund retirement contributions because Wall street’s returns were in the bag.

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Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 20:25:28

I’m seeing a good deal of people of all adult ages with serious drug problems. I have no idea if they stopped functioning in society /work and took up drugs or stopped because they were taking drugs. Perhaps previously they would be doing the light manufacturing / labor jobs.. I don’t know.

Either way, there’s a good segment that’s hostile and dangerous, and people are really getting close to their breaking point.

 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-06-20 11:26:47

Denver’s homeless problem is the worst I’ve ever seen in the 8+ years I’ve lived here.

Comment by pdxhomeowner
2018-06-20 13:55:04

Same here about Portland, 12 years for me. I’ve seen youtube videos of homelessness along Santa Ana river in Orange county that blew my mind, alongside Angel stadium. Since it doesn’t snow there, they have a lot more homeless, but I don’t understand how the homeless survive the winter snow and ice in Portland, Seattle, Denver…

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Comment by Grant
2018-06-21 06:11:40

Please elaborate…

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-20 11:40:51

“Wow, paradise…”

Isn’t California just wonderful? Crime, poverty, unemployment and lawlessness.

US Census Bureau: “California Is America’s Poorest State”

http://www.laweekly.com/news/california-is-americas-poorest-state-4177082

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-06-20 08:26:28

Santa Cruz, CA Housing Prices Crater 10% YOY As Coastal Property Markets Tank

https://www.zillow.com/santa-cruz-ca-95060/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart.

Comment by Jingle Male
2018-06-20 15:38:33

Nice try HA! More non-sense!

Days on Market in Santa Cruz? 37

Prices ($/SF) up 4% in the last year.

Get a job. By some popcorn. You’ve been saying the housing market everywhere has cratering for years. Let’s revisit one of your posts from 2 years ago!

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2016-02-29 12:25:03

How bout them falling housing prices.

Fort Lauderdale, FL Housing Prices Crater 30% YoY

http://www.movoto.com/fort-lauderdale-fl/market-trends/

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?

Median price up 8% since 2016! HA HA, go away. Come again some other day….maybe 2020?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-20 17:00:27

Housing my underwater friend.

Naples, FL Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY

https://www.zillow.com/naples-fl/home-values/

https://snag.gy/m5EzRB.jpg

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-20 19:41:19

We’re kind of in a backwater here in the Finger Lakes Region of NY but the shift is obvious. Obsolete Commercial to apartments, over. Let’s build some hotels, over. There are just about zero homes for sale. The silence is very loud.

 
 
 
Comment by jeff99az
2018-06-20 09:04:08

And the evidence continues to mount:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-20/existing-home-sales-slump-lowest-jan-housing-affordability-becoming-crisis

interesting that the 2nd chart indicates median home sale price is currently higher than it was in the 2006/2007 bubble peak. havent seen that where I live in AZ (prices are getting close but have not yet hit/exceeded the 2006/2007 peak) … I wonder is this is some sort of number crunching/interpretation issue … or if other markets in US (SF Bay area?) are pushing well over 2006/2007 bubble peak levels.

Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-06-20 10:44:46

SF, Seattle, LA, Portland, etc. all well beyond the previous bubble highs. The crash will be that much more painful. People try to add “inflation” between 2006 and now to compare pricing, but when you factor in stagnant wages the math is worse than it was back then, and jobs are what pay for houses.

Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 11:02:13

Some people will hang on because they got cheap loans and the payments are manageable on current wages. Others stretched and are one layoff away from chaos. Different areas will play out at different speeds and times.

There will indeed be a lot of pain, but it won’t be evenly spread. I think there will be more confusion from analysts and media as the crash isn’t an exact repeat of last time.

As someone once said: “History doesn’t repeat so much as it Rhymes”.

Comment by pdxhomeowner
2018-06-20 16:32:33

because they got cheap loans and the payments are manageable on current wages. Others stretched and are one layoff away from chaos. Different areas will play out at different speeds and times.

I’m watching the cash-out re-fi numbers. Most of these desperate ding-dongs are refinancing into a higher interest rate, indicating they are so desperate for cash they are willing to incur a higher monthly payment in exchange for desperately needed cash. Each interest rate hike bumps up the monthly payment; these serial refinancing ponzis will finally hit their borrowing ceiling and then finally enter foreclosure and let the house finally go to its proper owner, the one that saved up a 20% down payment. Patience is needed at this juncture, as we’re over the cliff and we’re just waiting for Wile E. Coyote (almost underwater borrowers) to look down.

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Comment by Apartment 401
2018-06-20 18:21:35

Cash-out refis are degenerate gamblers who deserve to loose their homes.

 
Comment by rms
2018-06-20 18:52:42

In the movie, Requiem for a Dream, a young couple are desperate for cash, so Jennifer Connelly must learn shine a decent helmet.

“I know it’s pretty baby, but I didn’t take out for air.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqIkFkmb054

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-21 12:42:43

“Most of these desperate ding-dongs are refinancing into a higher interest rate, indicating they are so desperate for cash they are willing to incur a higher monthly payment in exchange for desperately needed cash.”

This is precisely how these people have been making mortgage payments over the last 8 years. No doc appraisals, once rare but now ubiquitous opens the floodgates to more borrowed money.

 
 
 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-20 13:23:39

People try to add “inflation” between 2006 and now to compare pricing,

One interesting thing to consider is that a major component of inflation is housing prices, or owners’ equivalent rent. And since rents have been rising rapidly, again because of the housing mania, this makes the inflation is self-referential.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 14:12:41

But one difference this time is, in my area, a vast majority of the homes are gobbled up by foreign buyers and are 100% cash deals. These people will not be walking away from their homes when the prices decline.

Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-06-20 18:13:35

Doesn’t matter. All it takes is a few foreclosures in a neighborhood to decimate all property values. Once that happens, it’s carnage. Remember, PRIME loans were the biggest defaulters last crash, and cash buyers are such a small percentage of the market that they mean absolutely NOTHING.

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Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 23:06:34

No, you are completely wrong about that. All-case sales are the vast majority of the sales in my area. I consult with my realtor often about recent sales.

Far more all-case sales then was the case back in 2006 and 2007.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-06-21 07:39:31

“All-case sales are the vast majority of the sales in my area.”

Check your spell checker.

But also consider whether this situation has always been the case, or is it a transient characteristic of the mania underway. In the latter case, what do you expect to happen when the all cash buyers disappear?

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2018-06-21 13:51:42

I consult with my realtor often

How confident are you that they actually know the real facts AND are sharing what they really know with you?

 
 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-20 19:44:49

” people will not be walking away”

Early stages of grief. Good luck.

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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 20:04:05

‘These people will not be walking away from their homes when the prices decline’

Click!

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Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 23:04:47

Serious question Ben: why would they? The are living in them and have no mortgage. I talk to them - they have three generations living under the same roof in many cases.

Are you suggesting that they are going to bail for oil city if the market turns?

 
Comment by oxide
2018-06-21 05:24:40

Redmond, I think you’re right. The smarter foreigners are buying the house to launder foreign money AND live in it as a “safe house” to gain a foothold in the USA, which still has relatively clean air and water and arable land. Appreciation is more or less gravy on top.

If living in a primary residence is “speculation,” then every single homeowner in the US is a speculator, including me.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-21 06:13:23

‘I talk to them’

All of them? You are generalizing.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-06-21 07:26:15

Add renters to the list of housing market speculators. Manias in essential consumption goods like shelter force all market participants to gamble with the uncertainty that results.

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-21 07:58:48

“every single homeowner…”

Not me.

 
Comment by tired_of_manipulation
2018-06-21 18:04:52

I suspect a lot of cash buyers actually do hold loans — you buy the house with cash and then turn around and borrow against it. You can’t easily put a large amount of cash from overseas into a bank, but you can buy a house cash and take out a loan which would then be ‘clean’.

For all we know, the original cash from overseas was generated by a loan as well.

 
Comment by rms
2018-06-21 21:35:32

“…but you can buy a house cash and take out a loan which would then be ‘clean’.”

A form of hedging?

 
 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 20:28:52

Specific neighborhoods around here - yes. We’re getting the Vancouver effect. They may lose value, but their game is much different that Joe six-pack’s or the DINK professional couple.

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Comment by rms
2018-06-20 18:33:00

“…but when you factor in stagnant wages the math is worse than it was back then, and jobs are what pay for houses.”

It is amazing that there hasn’t been a national dialog yet regarding home prices versus household income. Anyone who works in finance knows the math doesn’t pencil-out.

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2018-06-20 11:26:55

at 97% of peak 5/6/2005 here in 22151

Stawks have almost double sine the RE peak so tell folk you rent ,but have shtloads of stawks

Comment by Montana
2018-06-20 19:27:37

Muh funds…

 
 
 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 10:52:59

As a lot of people here have been saying, a big something that is “different” this time around is all the empty homes. It’s not the only cause of the current bubble, but it’s a definite factor in all the weirdness and dysfunction in the market. I’d put it up there with the global chase for high(er) ROI / Yield pushing the glut of construction into luxury properties and away from more basic / affordable housing despite the market demographics clearly saying that’s not what’s needed.

Do we have any data on ownership of all these empty houses? I know in places like Vancouver, BC it’s likely to be foreign nationals parking (potentially ill-gotten) money, but in Utah is it the banks? The LDS church? Blackstone? To whom and why is it more advantageous to let these vacant homes sit and rot instead of selling off in this supposedly so hot market?

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 11:04:11

It’s like that guy in Minnesota said the other day:

June 7, 2018

The Star Tribune in Minnesota. “Nearly 340 residential buildings sit empty and boarded across Minneapolis, despite a severe housing shortage and a steep vacant property fee that has raised $20 million for city services over the past decade. The problem isn’t specific to Minneapolis. St. Paul has 634 vacant properties, according to the city’s data. The Twin Cities’ situation is dwarfed by the street after street of boarded-up properties in cities like Baltimore, home to more than 16,000 vacant houses.”

“These days, many of the homes left vacant sit in the Twin Cities’ most desirable real estate neighborhoods and have increased exponentially in value in recent years. Instead of selling for profit, the owners pay thousands annually to the city as they wait for the right moment to renovate, tear down or sell. Timothy Alexon, who owns scores of properties in north Minneapolis, said the annual fee pales in comparison to what he plans to make when his company eventually sells them.”

“‘The houses are going up more than the [fee] is costing me,’ he said.”

http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=10456

Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 12:12:36

Sooo.. it’s no longer about putting people and families in primary housing, but treating homes as an “Asset” to be horded by the top N% and unloaded at the ‘top’ of the market?

Am I getting that right?

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 12:38:31

It’s speculation. The best article I ever posted was from Peter Schiff way way back where he identified several categories of speculators and it was broad. Including vacation buyers who could do better staying at resorts, etc. This is why when markets turn like in Toronto, all of a sudden shacks come flying onto the market. There’s a whole bunch of people like this guy in MN who are timing the market. It happens over and over. This is what’s going on with these California and Utah towns above as well.

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Comment by Taxpayers
2018-06-20 16:09:29

Shack Force

 
Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-06-20 18:16:45

“This is why when markets turn like in Toronto, all of a sudden shacks come flying onto the market. There’s a whole bunch of people like this guy in MN who are timing the market. It happens over and over.”

Yep. The minute price declines become common knowledge, inventory is going to come onto the market like an avalanche.

 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 20:30:01

This is why when markets turn like in Toronto, all of a sudden shacks come flying onto the market. There’s a whole bunch of people like this guy in MN who are timing the market. It happens over and over.”

Yep. The minute price declines become common knowledge, in

Indeed. Nearly everyone is convinced they are above average and beat the rest of the crowd to the exits…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-06-20 11:01:11

Kalaheo, Hawaii Housing Prices Crater 13% YOY As Confidence In Housing Plummets

https://www.zillow.com/kalaheo-hi/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart.

Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 12:45:14

Come on… we need a “as Lava increases the supply of buildable land”

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-20 13:29:31

Keep it realistic my friend.

Pullman, WA Housing Prices Crater 21% YOY As Land Prices Plunge

https://www.movoto.com/pullman-wa/market-trends/

Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 14:21:09

Another town that you have never been to. I attended college there. Look up Schweitzer Engineering Laboratories - an extremely successful firm started by one of my former professors. They are the largest employer in town following the university.

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Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-20 15:03:39

Housing my good friend…. Housing.

Albany, OR Housing Prices Crater 12% YOY

https://www.movoto.com/albany-or/market-trends/

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-06-20 19:56:57

“I attended college there…”

So, it shouldn’t be a bubble, because it’s special.

 
Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 23:01:29

It’s not special. But homes are in demand around large, successful companies.

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-21 07:35:29

Until the company moves or merges. Sidney, Nebraska anyone?

 
 
 
Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 23:02:42

You joke, but in a decade or two, there will once again be homes over the new lava flow, just like they have done over the past century. The area being covered now was last hit in 1960 by another lava flow.

 
 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2018-06-20 11:28:38

the taxes will get you if the interest rates don’t
RE taxes went up more than the appreciation rate here in N VA

 
Comment by In Colorado
2018-06-20 11:55:51

We are seeing families lose homes that they have owned for generations due to foreclosure or predatory developers

Huh? If the house has been owned for generations, wouldn’t that mean:

1) It was originally purchased for a reasonable price?
2) It’s paid for?

So why are they getting foreclosed and how do flippers affect them?

Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 12:21:17

Only things I can think of are (elder) fraud and Eminent Domain/Zoning unless the owners are taking out HELOCs or Reverse Mortgages, can’t afford the taxes or upkeep, or taking what they think are great offers.

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-06-20 18:26:02

All those $50K truckz driven by $30K millionaires had to get paid for somehow, right? There’s alot of poor white trash and poor brown trash in Dumver who think driving a $50K truck = self-actualization.

Sad…

Comment by rms
2018-06-20 19:00:41

“All those $50K truckz driven by $30K millionaires…”

So true… LMFAO!

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2018-06-20 12:16:53

Not housing related but COULD YOU TACKLE IT? Fish and chip shop owner claims to sell the largest portion in the UK – and says just seven people have finished it

https://www.thesun.co.uk/uncategorized/3777099/fish-chip-shop-largest-portion-uk/

Comment by ibbots
2018-06-20 15:17:36

That looks really good but what the heck are those sides? Now I am craving fried fish…..

 
Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-06-20 18:19:46

My system has a very tough time with fried food, not to mention all the sodium that it’s likely packed with. I wouldn’t make myself miserable by trying to eat that - ever.

 
 
Comment by TIC TOK
2018-06-20 13:12:20

Amazing how it works….

1981 to 1992 homeless people are a problem

1993 to 2000 homeless people vanished. Not a peep about them from the MSM.

2001 to 2008 they were back in a bigly way.

Then on Jan 20, 2009 magically they vanished again (as did all problems) until ptesto on Jan 20,2017 they magically came back. Much like the “opioid epidemic”. Up until maybe a year ago I had never heard of it. Now it’s the worst thing ever. I guess the country was so sad in Nov. 2016 millions started getting high and moved to the sreets.

Comment by brazendetre
2018-06-20 14:27:28

Same thing with illegals - we need to take care of them! (with your tax dollars).

The only problem in libtards minds is anyone who hasnt bought into their groupthink

10 rules from VR pioneer
full link: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-18/delete-your-account-warns-virtual-reality-founding-father

Just replace social media with group think, this was going on but less so before all of these (((apps))) were created

1) You are losing your free will.

2) Quitting social media is the most finely targeted way to resist the insanity of our times.

3) Social media is making you an a55hole.

4) Social media is underming truth.

5) Social media is making what you say meaningless.

6) Social media is destroying your capacity for empathy.

7) Social media is making you unhappy.

8) Social media doesn’t want you to have economic dignity.

9) Social media is making politics impossible.

10) Social media hates your soul.

Comment by Apartment 401
2018-06-20 18:30:17

Zuckercuck needs a brainless army of cucked out phone zombies.

The depression, the anxiety, the suicides are all increasing.

If you are over 25 and using Instagram, delete it, or kill yourself now ;)

 
 
Comment by oxide
2018-06-20 15:28:29

Opioid awareness didn’t come from Trump. It came from the death of Prince in April 2016.

The Prince story was very different than what I was used to. He wasn’t some poor minority on the street, or some actor who needed uppers to perform. Prince became addicted through the painkiller route. Prince OD’d a couple times and was revived. The heroin was so addictive that Prince couldn’t even wait to get into a safe spot in his home to shoot up. He shot up as soon as he got into his front door, or into the elevator. And the heroin was laced with fentanyl.

Almost all of this was new to me, and it really got everyone thinking.

Comment by BlackSwandive
2018-06-20 18:21:09

It was all over the media well before Prince OD’d. I think it took out Tom Petty, too.

Comment by Apartment 401
2018-06-20 18:32:06

If heroin/fentanyl take out a few million millennials, is that necessarily a bad thing?

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Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-06-20 18:39:31

I think it is. These are the same sort of dummies who willingly sign up for my Dotted Line Specials. I want more of them, not less.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2018-06-20 20:06:32

Bad news, Mr. Banker. Birth rates are in free fall, meaning fewer dotted line signers in the future.

 
Comment by Albuquerquedan
2018-06-21 05:17:19

If we do not make up for it with open borders. We should have been At ZPG decades ago. We would have had a cleaner environment and affordable housing had we limited immigration.

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-21 07:39:15

What opioids don’t do to the population, sugar will. Elevated A1C and type 2 diabetes is killing the population, one amputated appendage at a time.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-06-21 07:45:08

Utahns make up for the Mormon prohibition on benign drug habits like moderate consumption of caffeine (in hot drinks) or alcohol by ingesting copious quantities of sugar, including caffeinated, carbonated, cold beverages.

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-21 16:52:15

The Jello belt should be renamed the sugar belt. Not quite as bad as the stroke belt in the south, but the population is still relatively young, so the jury is still out.

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-21 16:53:41

If you want to take a look at the thriving chains around here, go ahead and Google “Swig”, “Fizz”, and “Sodalicious”.

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-06-21 17:00:31

That’s “Fiiz drinks”, actually.

 
 
 
Comment by MGSpiffy
2018-06-20 20:32:12

It was out there well before.

I had visited rural Kentucky back around 2010 and it was such a huge problem there then. People were quite open about it.

 
Comment by rms
2018-06-21 04:18:31

“Purdue Pharma, company behind Oxycontin, just laid off its entire sales team”
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/xwm3zk/purdue-pharma-company-behind-oxycontin-just-laid-off-its-entire-sales-team

 
Comment by rms
2018-06-21 04:28:54

“Purdue Pharma continued deceptive sales practices for OxyContin after 2007″
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oxycontin-purdue-whistleblower-says-drug-maker-continued-deceptive-sales-practices/

 
 
 
Comment by TIC TOK
2018-06-20 13:16:31

My taxes today are about 15% higher than when I bought, while the house has more than doubled in value. Then again I dont live in a socialist paradise like NoVa.

 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-06-20 13:42:07

Portland(Northwest), OR Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Double Digit Price Declines Spread

https://www.zillow.com/northwest-portland-or/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart

Comment by redmondjp
2018-06-20 14:23:38

You do really need to get back on your meds, BoBo. How many different names are you using to post today?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-06-20 14:29:52

Falling prices are what they are my good friend. ;)

Bellevue WA Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY

https://www.movoto.com/bellevue-wa/market-trends

 
 
 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-20 15:55:55

The median home price in California now exceeds $600,000.

Heckova job, Ben & Janet.

http://www.businessinsider.com/california-home-price-hits-record-high-2018-6

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-06-20 18:36:04

Hey, don’t knock it; It’s wealth creation.

 
 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-20 16:00:26

A single parking space in Hong Kong goes for $760K. But the Fed sees no bubbles.

http://www.scmp.com/property/hong-kong-china/article/2151682/buyer-world-record-us760000-parking-space-boss-hong-kong

 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-20 16:02:35

Hong Kong FBs, who already pay 60% of their income for housing, face a schlonging as interest rates rise.

http://www.scmp.com/property/hong-kong-china/article/2150659/hongkongers-will-feel-squeeze-mortgage-rates-gain-momentum

 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-20 16:05:14

More lemmings keep flooding into global housing bubbles, having convinced themselves their “investment” can only go up.

http://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2151130/hong-kong-homebuyers-snap-flats-citys-first-two-sales-after-us

 
Comment by Boo Randy
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-06-20 20:34:52

‘This is why when markets turn like in Toronto, all of a sudden shacks come flying onto the market. There’s a whole bunch of people like this guy in MN who are timing the market. It happens over and over.’

Case in point:

‘And as sales continue to slide inventory is beginning to build. For sale inventory crept up by 4% year over year, increasing for the first time in three years, and the highest May increase since 2010.’

 
 
Comment by Taxpayers
2018-06-21 03:52:42

that follow me ad for a condo in va suburbs,the cost is $800 a square ft
You can live in Georgetown for that $

 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-06-21 06:36:52

Austin, TX 78759 Housing Prices Crater 13% YOY As Obama Era Subprime Mortgages Fail

https://www.zillow.com/austin-tx-78759/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart

 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-06-21 07:32:03

Another day, another triple digits down on the Dow…

Dow on track for 8th loss in a row as trade gloom lingers
By Victor Reklaitis and Anora M. Gaudiano
Published: June 21, 2018 9:48 a.m. ET

U.S. stocks were trading mostly lower on Thursday, while the Dow Jones Industrial Average was on track to extend its lengthy losing streak to an eighth straight day, as uncertainty over trade policy weighed on investor sentiment.

 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-21 07:33:31

The Hong Kong finance chief jumps on the “tax vacant flats to ease the housing shortage” bandwagon.

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/hong-kong-economy/article/2151897/finance-chief-paul-chan-says-hong-kong-housing

 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-21 07:38:39

And here come the bond defaults, right on cue, as all those companies that levered up on debt are going to have to pay the piper. CEOs who used stock buybacks to boost their own compensation may have some ’spraining to do when the prospect of defaults causes YUGE drops in their companies’ stock valuations.

http://www.scmp.com/business/money/stock-talk/article/2151797/shares-singapore-precision-engineer-crash-39pc-fears-it

Comment by In Colorado
2018-06-21 11:36:35

They won’t explain anything. In addition to their already huge bag of cash they’ll be fired and get their golden parachute.

 
 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-21 07:51:32

Another bank warns that the slumping London housing market is going to hit profits. I’m getting an odd since of deja vous, like we’ve been here before. Thankfully, Janet Yellen assured us there would be no new financial crisis “in our time.”

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jun/20/berkeley-peak-profits-london-housing-market-brexit

Comment by Boo Randy
2018-06-21 09:30:41

Last year, Pidgley was awarded a total pay package of £29m, after a sharp rise in the share price drove up the value of rewards received under a long-term incentive plan. However, Berkeley said a subsequent cap on payouts meant the maximum Pidgley could receive for the year to 30 April 2018 was £8.2m.

Goose your share price, rake in obscene CEO compensation. It’s all good until the central bank financial crack cocaine stops flowing and the bubbles start to burst.

 
 
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