July 31, 2018

Everyone Misses The Boom Time

A report from the Globe and Mail in Canada. “In Canada’s fourth-largest city and one of its fastest growing and strongest economies, homes sales continue to trend downward compared with 2017, while home listings continue to grow. But rather than panic, many owners and buyers in the market have kept counting on quick relief, believing Calgary’s next boom will solve their problems. Industry watchers say these hopes, based as they are on a pattern of downturns lasting no more than two years that stretched back into the 1980s, are about to face something of a reality check.”

“A lot of people ask me if we are getting back to ‘normal,’ said Todd Hirsch, a Calgary-based economist with the Alberta Treasury Branches. ‘And when they say that, I suspect what they mean is early 2014, which was a boom time – because that’s what everyone misses, that’s what felt comfortable, especially for people in the oil and gas sector. People were making a lot of money and real estate prices were booming.’”

“When people ask him this, Mr. Hirsch said his reply is blunt: ‘I say, ‘If you mean early 2014, no, we’re not going back to that.’ Anyone who bought before 2015, such as Mr. Hirsch, is feeling this pain. He says his own condominium in downtown Calgary is likely worth about 20 per cent less than it was four years ago.”

“Ann-Marie Lurie, executive director of the CREB, said the organization opened the year expecting prices and sales growth to remain stable, but instead sales have dropped and prices have softened. Calgary has ‘too much supply’ of all types of housing, she said, while several other factors have exacerbated the situation: the dampening effects of the federal ’stress test’ on first-time home buyers; slow job recovery in traditional sectors; and homeowners jumping at the somewhat-rebounding market to list their properties in 2017 and early 2018, adding to the supply overload.”

The Western Investor in Canada. “If housing is a harbinger of a city’s economy, Edmonton could be in trouble. Residential land sales in the Alberta capital dropped 57 per cent last year from 2016 and ‘are tracking close’ to 2017 levels so far in 2018. Sales of multi-family rental building buildings through the first three months of this year, meanwhile, have plunged 74 per cent from the record high set in the first quarter of 2017, according to the Edmonton Flash Report from Altus Group.”

“‘Due to high vacancy rates, landlords were forced to offer discounts and incentives to fill their units. This trend will start to end this year. Things might be a little unsteady until 2019, but they will improve,’ said a report from Braden Equities, a large Edmonton property management firm, which is forecasting lower vacancy rates.”

From This Is Money in the UK. “Homebuyers in the UK are managing to knock £10,822 off asking prices on average as the majority of the country remains very much a buyers’ market, new figures suggest. The latest figures from Hometrack have revealed a UK-wide discount to asking price of 3.5 per cent - the difference between what a home was originally listed for and what it eventually sells for. Taking into account this month’s average asking price of £309,191, that means on average buyers are clinching houses for £10,822 less than what the sellers want.”

“That doesn’t sound like that much, but it is worth bearing in mind that a sizeable number of properties see much bigger cuts than this and many will see tens of thousands of pounds shaved off listed asking prices before they go under offer. Buying agent Henry Pryor, who has bought and sold over 1,000 properties, recommends buyers start low and raise their offer gradually. ‘The buyer decides what a house is worth, the seller decides if it’s enough,’ he said. ‘Remember, the agent is not a broker,’ added Pryor. ‘He is paid by and represents the seller. His job is to pick your pocket and he will try every technique to do so.’”

From Reuters on Australia. “Growth in Australian home loans for investment hit record lows in June as tighter lending standards and hikes in some mortgage rates sucked the life out of the buy-to-let sector, piling further pressure on house prices. Tuesday’s figures showed the stock of outstanding credit for home investment fell 0.1% in June, from May. That was the first drop since the global financial crisis and only the third decline in the near-30 year history of the series.”

‘Annual growth in investor credit slowed to an all-time low of 1.6%, a long way from the 10%-plus seen at the peak of the housing boom in 2015. An added wrinkle has been an increase in funding costs for banks over the last few months which had put upward pressure on mortgage rates. In a recent report, Moody’s Investors Service noted that 16 small and midsize banks had raised their home loan rates in the face of higher wholesale costs and slower loan growth.”

“The four major banks had held off so far, in part due to intense public scrutiny amid a government inquiry which had turned up evidence of widespread misdeeds in the industry. Moody’s suspected that might not last. ‘The rate hikes by the smaller banks may be paving the way for the major banks to raise their rates and preserve margins, despite the politically charged environment,’ the agency said.”

“While such a move would be positive for bank profits and their credit quality, it would come at a tough time for the once red-hot markets of Sydney and Melbourne. The latest data from property consultant CoreLogic showed prices for the combined capital cities were heading for their tenth straight month of decline in July.”

From the Sydney Morning Herald on Australia. “Banks are tipped to remain cautious about mortgage lending for the next two years, continuing a trend that has dragged borrowing by investors to a near standstill, and caused a Sydney-led slump in house prices. Banking experts on Tuesday predicted that a tighter supply of credit would continue to have a major impact on the housing market for next year and possibly longer, as the royal commission hangs over the sector.”

“The comments came as new figures showed housing investor credit growth had slowed to a new record low, a result of banks slamming the brakes on lending to landlords and people taking out interest-only loans. Paul Mirams, a partner specialising in real estate at insolvency firm KordaMentha, said a slide in demand for properties from Chinese buyers would be a drag on the market.”

“‘Broadly speaking we think the Chinese will be a net negative for the next couple of years on residential prices, and that’s probably going back to normal, rather than the last four or five years that have not been normal,’ Mr Mirams said.”

The Tribune India. “The business of land and property is not called ‘real estate’ for nothing. By now, nearly all — rich, middle class, and poor — would have realised that no other estate, whether executive, legislature or judiciary, can rein in this ‘real power’. The state government is preparing to give Cabinet approval to the Punjab Laws (Special Provisions for Regularisation of Unauthorised Colony) Bill, 2018.”

“It may be a good time to recall that over the past two decades, governments came and went, property prices saw boom as much as bust, regularisation policies were framed and changed, investors suffered, home buyers were stuck in hellholes, but no one ever told you not to invest in ‘real estate’. That is because this is perhaps the single largest and quickest route to transfer hard-earned money from the common citizen to the politician-builder, who also is now common.”

“What happened on ground was that the builder paid nothing, home buyers paid money, and the government collected copious funds. And that is it. With little real growth to justify the property bubble (yes, the prices are still not real), there is a vested interest to continue blowing air into it. Is anyone out there expecting the regularisation policy to bring relief from choked sewers, empty rooftop water tanks, and blown-out power transformers? Please forget that, and get used to real life.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-07-31 17:26:03

‘Due to high vacancy rates, landlords were forced to offer discounts and incentives to fill their units. This trend will start to end this year. Things might be a little unsteady until 2019, but they will improve’

I got 5 pesos that says you’re fooked.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-07-31 17:28:31

‘Growth in Australian home loans for investment hit record lows in June …That was the first drop since the global financial crisis and only the third decline in the near-30 year history of the series…Annual growth in investor credit slowed to an all-time low’

More record lows, first drop since the crisis, etc.

BTW, check out the photo at the SMH article with the caption: “A fall in Chinese buyers has hit the market.”

Comment by rms
2018-07-31 18:58:30

BTW, check out the photo at the SMH article with the caption: “A fall in Chinese buyers has hit the market.”

This looks one of those real estate tour bus scams.

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-07-31 17:36:14

Shoreline WA Housing Prices Crater 12% YOY As Seattle Economy Chokes On Mortgage Defaults

https://www.movoto.com/shoreline-wa/market-trends/

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-07-31 17:43:55

‘and homeowners jumping at the somewhat-rebounding market to list their properties in 2017 and early 2018, adding to the supply overload’

Doncha hate it when that happens? Recall when Toronto first dropped in 2017. The UHS there said, “oh don’t worry, Vancouver fell in 2016 and they are to the moon Alice!” Which wasn’t true. Now they’re all in the crapper.

 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-07-31 18:06:40

Tarzana, CA Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Depreciation Slams LA Area Homeowners

https://www.zillow.com/tarzana-los-angeles-ca/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2018-07-31 19:07:38

Why Arizona Is Building Tiny Homes for School Teachers

Megan Kimble Jul 25, 2018

The state ranks last in the nation for elementary school teacher salaries. For one rural school district, building a tiny-home community for staffers is one way to address the issue.

https://www.citylab.com/design/2018/07/a-tiny-fix-for-a-big-problem-affordable-teacher-housing/566033/

Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-07-31 21:27:25

From the article:

“I’m often asked, are you doing this because it’s an affordable housing issue, or are you doing this because it’s a teacher pay issue?” says John Carruth, the school district’s associate superintendent, and leader of the tiny home project. “And the answer is yes to both of those things.”

Teacher pay is pitifully low in some states. What was it, something like 9 states that were all red which had teacher strikes this past year? None of these were union led if I recall, but came from grassroots teachers movements who were just fed up with endless cuts to education, poor materials, and poor pay.

This is a creative solution by a small AZ town, but it really doesn’t address the problem of inadequate pay. I think this comment really nails down the inefficiency of tiny houses:

“Tiny homes are unsustainable. If we put 40 households into a nice traditional apartment building, it needs about 60 feet of road & sewer in front of it. 40 tiny homes… that’s blocks of publicly funded infrastructure with almost no tax base sustain it. Unless these are in-fill on really marginal/otherwise undevelopable lots or totally off-grid, cities should not be promoting them. They are way too spatially inefficient; it’s everything bad about single family housing sprawl in a smaller building envelop.”

Comment by oxide
2018-08-01 06:15:50

This particular location is the boonies 25 miles from Tucson, so land isn’t a problem. But yeah, that’s a lot of infrastructure and miles of pipe and wire to get everyone hooked up.

IMO happy medium for such housing is a block of 2-bed 1.5 bath rowhouses. There really is some value in having a little space in front and in back of the house for a parking space and a small patio with a little shade gardening. And it doesn’t take much more infrastructure.

Comment by taxpayers
2018-08-01 07:39:12

I’d like to end up in a 2400sq ft villa. They are ugly on the outside ,but quiet w no up keep.Will have to be far from the maddening crowd.

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Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-08-01 10:43:35

I’ve always liked 4-, 5-, or 6-story condo building, as long as the soundproofing is good and the HOA is reasonable (e.g. no pool, but I’ll take a workout room for treadmill, stationary bike, and stairmaster).

 
 
 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2018-08-01 07:43:10

teacher poverty scam
1. they work 192 days a year- private sector is 230 +
2. they earn less when leaving (per Heritage)
3. they get a pension ,schmucks get 401k /301/201
4. they get to retire in their 50s
5. in their next job every $ is MERIT PAY- the words the fear the most

Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-08-01 11:18:09

Conditions vary widely by district and state. Your post may be true for some cushy districts. My wife puts in many extra “non-contract” days, so your numbers aren’t accurate. There is no longer pension for our state for new teachers as it was abolished and she is now on 401k system. Retirement in our state is at 65. She is on merit pay, which is a total scam in and of itself because it creates perverse incentives to discourage poor students from coming on test days, teach to test, etc.

 
 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-07-31 20:10:37

I want my umbrella back!

Comment by rms
2018-07-31 21:07:24

“I want my umbrella back!”

“I spent your money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered.” —bastardized

 
 
Comment by cool hand luke
2018-07-31 20:23:29

Ben, did you get a chance to see Allena Hansen on animal planet, I was prey. She looked good considering what she went through.

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-07-31 20:30:17

No, I don’t watch TV.

 
Comment by jeff
2018-07-31 22:44:48

“She looked good considering”

Because Allena is beautiful from the inside out.

 
 
Comment by jeff
2018-07-31 22:42:25

I am considering selling a shack that I purchased in 2012.

Almost 10 years before I thought I would be moving on but things change.

Comment by rms
2018-08-01 07:37:36

“…but things change.”

She must be hawt!

Comment by oxide
2018-08-01 09:58:26

BE NICE.

 
 
 
Comment by Peter
Comment by oxide
2018-08-01 07:11:53

Perhaps. This cart is supposed to have shelves inside. I can easily see the homeless removing the shelves and crawling inside partway to sleep or shoot up. This may or may not be a good thing; I don’t know yet.

 
 
Comment by azdude
2018-08-01 06:15:32

Are you minions still waiting for the economic boom to trickle down to you after 10 years of stimulus?

Maybe we should force people to borrow money?

Comment by foobarbaz
2018-08-01 06:54:30

Is that you Bernanke?

 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-08-01 07:22:30

According to the official narrative, the U.S. Housing Bubble is a historic event which ended years ago. Never mind that current prices in many areas have blown past their previous peaks at rapid rates of appreciation…this time is different.

U.S. Housing Bubble

This was a real estate bubble that affected more than half of the United States in the mid-2000s and was partially the result of the dot-com bubble. As the markets began to crash, values in real estate started to rise and the demand for homeownership started to grow, at almost alarming levels. Interest rates started to decline and whatever strict lending requirements banks and lenders had were all but thrown out the window — which meant almost anyone could become a homeowner. In fact, almost 56 percent of people who purchased homes in that time would never have been able to do so under normal circumstances.

 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-08-01 07:25:50

“‘Broadly speaking we think the Chinese will be a net negative for the next couple of years on residential prices, and that’s probably going back to normal, rather than the last four or five years that have not been normal,’ Mr Mirams said.”

Here’s to hoping the disappearance of Chinese investors can help California home prices normalize as well.

Comment by Ghost of Satoshi
2018-08-01 07:47:24

So far has not affected Irvine at all. Seems the Chinese are laser focused on Irvine after abandoning all the other Global Luxury markets

 
 
Comment by taxpayers
2018-08-01 07:36:43

more cash than debt? PAAS
usually miners have more debt than ore

discuss

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-01 07:48:48

“usually miners have more debt than ore”

“A gold mine is a hole in the ground with a liar standing on top of it.” - Mark Twain

 
Comment by oxide
2018-08-01 10:00:06

got cash?
let’s get physical

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2018-08-01 07:39:59

Even Judge Judy know a bargain when she sees one…..

known as the “Bird House,” for $9 million, reports the Newport Daily News.The famous estate had been listed for $10.9 million

https://patch.com/connecticut/greenwich/wow-house-judge-judy-buys-gorgeous-newport-estate

https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/70-Beacon-Hill-Rd_Newport_RI_02840_M35742-55216

 
Comment by BlueSkye
2018-08-01 07:52:08

One of my favorite reads on what is happening economically in China is going offline. Thankfully he did not get himself arrested.

“Balding Out

“Posted on July 17, 2018

“I am leaving China. After nine years working for the HSBC Business School of Peking University Shenzhen Graduate School as a professor teaching international trade, negotiations, and ethics, I am leaving China. In early November 2017, the HSBC Business School informed me they would not renew my contract. In March 2018 they informed me they wished to sever all ties by April 1, 2018.

“I leave thankful for the time I spent in Shenzhen, China, and working with elite students in China. Despite technical protections, I knew and accepted the risks of working for the primary university in China run by the Communist Party in China as a self professed libertarian. Though provided an “official” reason for not renewing my contract, my conscience is clean and I can document most everything that demonstrates the contrary should I ever need to prove otherwise. I know the unspoken reason for my dismissal. You do not work under the Communist Party without knowing the risks.”

http://www.baldingsworld.com/2018/07/17/balding-out/

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-01 10:23:24

Hmmm. Interesting story. It sounded like he made that public while still in China? I wouldn’t have published until I and my family were out.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-08-01 13:26:40

I suspect he wrote it before he left but didn’t publish until afterwards.

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-01 13:34:28

Hope so. That’s living kinda dangerously, even with a US passport.

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Comment by Boo Randy
2018-08-01 13:50:30

Most libertarian professors would have long since been hounded out of their jobs by the cultural Marxists and their SJW student Red Guards who run roughshod over anyone accused of Thought Crimes in U.S. universities. Three minutes of hate, anyone?

Comment by tresho
2018-08-01 19:20:03

Three minutes of hate, anyone?
Three minutes of hate is piffle to those who want to generate weeks of it.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-08-01 08:54:30

The unwind has only just begun.

Quicktake
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-19/why-china-s-local-bonds-are-defaulting-at-record-pace-quicktake
Bloomberg News
July 19, 2018, 1:00 PM PDT
Updated on July 19, 2018, 8:58 PM PDT
Overall Debt Leverage Hasn’t Come Down in China, Says Fitch Ratings

Chinese companies are facing a reality check after years of ramping up debt. The deleveraging campaign that President Xi Jinping began in 2016 to curb risks in the nation’s financial markets has cracked down on shadow financing and tightened rules on asset management. As a result, firms are having a tough time raising new funds to repay existing debt, leading to a record amount of bond defaults this year.

 
Comment by b
2018-08-01 09:59:23

Does this make sense?

1. West Seattle - ok but not great neighbourhood.
2. $9.5M for 38 units with an average size of 336 sq feet - $250K/unit

are these the last suckers?

“Seattle, July 31, 2018 – The Lofts at the Junction Apartments, a 38-unit apartment property, has sold for $9.5 million to WC Seattle IV SPE, LLC. Built in 2015, the apartment building is situated on a 3,700+ square-foot lot at 4535 44th Avenue SW, Seattle, according to King County Records.
Joe Levin, Senior Vice President with Colliers International, marketed the property and brokered the sale on behalf of the seller, Lofts at The Junction, LLC.
The Lofts at the Junction is a five-story complex with a rooftop deck overlooking the Puget Sound. It boasts best-in-class use of apartment space, with a full interior amenity package including washers and dryers in all apartment units. The units have tall ceilings and abundant natural light, making the average 336-square-foot unit feel much larger.”

 
Comment by b
2018-08-01 10:02:06

such rare honesty. Meanwhile the property taxes and HOA have each gone up about 20% each

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“When people ask him this, Mr. Hirsch said his reply is blunt: ‘I say, ‘If you mean early 2014, no, we’re not going back to that.’ Anyone who bought before 2015, such as Mr. Hirsch, is feeling this pain. He says his own condominium in downtown Calgary is likely worth about 20 per cent less than it was four years ago.”

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-01 10:27:08

Industry watchers say these hopes, based as they are on a pattern of downturns lasting no more than two years that stretched back into the 1980s, are about to face something of a reality check.

Hey, we’re training everybody here to buy the housing dip 2 years after the crash too. Which will work until it spectacularly doesn’t.

 
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