Now Sellers Are, Like, ‘What’s Going On?’
A report from the Financial Times on New York. “Home sales have slowed down this year in the Hamptons, bringing the median price below the $1m mark. Second-quarter sales fell 12.8 percent from 2017 levels, according to data prepared for Douglas Elliman by Miller Samuel Real Estate. The median price dropped 5.3 percent to a $975,000, compared with $1.03m a year earlier. The spring selling season is usually the high point of the year in the Hamptons, so the drop is stoking concerns that the resort areas of Long Island’s south shore are succumbing to the pressures depressing property activity in other parts of the US. The inventory of homes listed at more than $4.25m rose 36.5 percent year on year in the second quarter to 329, according to Miller Samuel. Sales in the luxury market were down 11.6 percent from last year’s level.”
“‘The prices really ran up quickly and a lot of inventory built up,’ said John F Wines, a broker at Saunders & Associates in Southampton. ‘Now sellers have had to get a little more realistic.’”
“Judi Desiderio, chief executive at Town & Country Real Estate in East Hampton, said there is a ‘glut in the market,’ with pricing pressures most pronounced at the highest end. ‘Those homes are being brought down significantly,’ said Ms Desiderio. ‘We have seen houses listed at $15m brought down to $12m, and maybe trading at $9m or $10m.’”
The International Business Times. “Amid sky-high home prices, rising interest rates on mortgages and a shortage of entry-level listings, the demand for housing has dropped 9.6 percent in June from the same time last year, per a monthly index from Redfin. This is the most substantial decrease since April 2016. That decline came from a 2.2 percent decrease in the number of homebuyers requesting tours and a 12.2 percent drop in requests made on houses from May to June. The number of people demanding home tours also fell 6.1 percent annually in June and there were 15 percent fewer offers made on homes, the report said.”
“Places like Seattle and Washington, D.C., which both have a short supply of homes available, saw double-digit increases in homes for sale in June. However, homebuyer demand dropped 3.7 percent that same month in those cities. For the year, the demand decreased by 14.8 percent and by 14 percent respectively. That may be because buyers are a bit more frugal based on locale, experts say.”
“‘As much-needed large inventory increases finally arrive in some of the hottest markets, buyers are taking the opportunity to be choosy, offering only on well-priced homes,’ said Pete Ziemkiewicz, head of analytics at Redfin. ‘With more homes to go around, buyers don’t need to bid as aggressively to win bidding wars, so prices, while still growing, are growing a lower rate, and home sales are slowing.’”
The Star-Tribune on Minnesota. “After a bustling spring, homebuilders in the Twin Cities hit the pause button last month. Applications to build for-sale houses were nearly flat while rental apartment construction tanked, reversing a two-month trend. During July, 477 permits were issued to build 659 units, according to Housing First Minnesota. That was a 5.1 percent increase in permits from the same period a year ago, but a 40.4 percent decline in total units.”
“Ian Peterson, Twin Cities division president with David Weekley Homes, attributes the July pause to a strong spring that borrowed future demand. Talk of rising mortgage interest rates in the coming months also might have encouraged some to buy earlier in the year than they otherwise might. ‘Was it a typical July? I’d say a little slower,’ he said. ‘It wasn’t significantly slower.’”
The Philadelphia Inquirer in Pennsylvania. “Even before she and her husband started seriously house-hunting for their first home, Nicole Benson Paul had heard the stories of Philadelphia’s cutthroat real estate market. It would have been no surprise — understandable, even — for Paul and her husband, Zach, to succumb to the trend that has captured thousands of city residents in the last few years: diving head-first into the market, voraciously bidding for properties, and overpaying or waiving contingencies to obtain a home when necessary.”
“Instead, the Pauls are part of what Philadelphia real estate agent Ashley Lauren Farnschlader calls the new ‘wait-and-see’ buyers — a new category of house-hunters who are tired of searching, exhausted from bidding, and hesitant to go all-in on a house. Whether they are skeptical about where the market and economy are heading, recovering from buyer fatigue, or simply waiting to find the right home at the right price, many Philadelphia buyers are no longer clamoring for homes the same way they did in 2016 and 2017, local agents say.”
“‘Buyers are buying smarter,’ said Dylan Ostrow, an agent for Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Fox & Roach in Center City, who helped the Pauls buy their first home in June. ‘I’ve told so many different clients … ‘We can wait for the right property. Something will come along priced correctly.’”
“For Paul, 29, and her 30-year-old husband, the patient approach paid off. In April, months after they had started shopping, the pair made their first serious bid — on a 1,400-square-foot rowhouse in Philadelphia’s popular Graduate Hospital neighborhood. The house had listed in the spring for $519,900 after sitting for months at $539,900. The couple swooped in and bid tens of thousands below the asking price. After negotiations, the Pauls nabbed the home for slightly more than $500,000, and settled in June.”
“Ordinarily, in the last few years, the Pauls’ experience would have been considered an uncommon steal in a highly sought-after neighborhood — a blip in an always ascending market. But the 2018 spring selling season was not the same real estate market that sellers, developers, and agents have enjoyed for the last few years, new data show, raising questions about where the Philadelphia real estate market could be headed.”
“According to Lawrence Yun, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, the slowdown in Philadelphia and other cities is only ‘temporary’ and has been driven perhaps by rising interest rates or more first-time buyers seeking — and finding — lower prices. Other observers simply see it as sellers dropping their prices to attract today’s more cautious buyer.”
“‘Last spring we were selling anything… and now my sellers are, like, ‘What’s going on?’ said Mike McCann, a Center City real estate agent for Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Fox & Roach. ‘We’re at the top of the bell curve, and we’re seeing softness. Sellers are talking about it. Agents who are entrenched in the market are seeing it. You just have to be more cautious now in your pricing.’”
The Del Mar Times in California. “After heavy debate for the last year-and-a-half and a gridlocked last meeting, the Encinitas City Council must now make its decision on one of its most pressing issues two days before the county’s deadline to qualify for the November election. The city will have to lock in its housing element update and the ordinance’s wording for the ballot at its next meeting on Aug. 8.”
“Over the last year-and-a-half, residents have packed city council chambers late into the night, advocating for and disapproving of proposed sites, height restrictions and other elements of the document. One of the most contested properties — a 7.6-acre, city-owned site best known as L-7 and located at 634 Quail Gardens Lane — was removed in mid-April following complaints from neighbors of the nearby Quail Gardens neighborhood. Those residents complained of an oversaturation of affordable housing in the area.”
The Lawrence Journal-World in Kansas. “A local developer has withdrawn his plans to build a five-story mixed-use condominium building in downtown Lawrence. The developer of the Vermont Place project, Bob Schumm, said he decided to abandon the project as proposed because not enough people were interested in purchasing a condo. Schumm said he did not want to build a speculative project and therefore planned to pre-sell all 11 of the condos before moving forward. He said that after spending the last 10 months marketing the condos, he had pre-sale agreements for only three units.”
“Regarding why there was not more interest in the condos, Schumm said he thinks the main reason was cost, especially in comparison with existing housing in Lawrence. He said the sales price of an unfinished condo in Vermont Place was $295 per square foot, as compared with about $150-200 per square foot in the existing housing market in Lawrence.”
“‘That’s what you’re faced with, is the competitive pressure of existing housing space versus condo space,’ Schumm said. ‘If we had a much larger urban footprint with other condos in it, then there would be a condo market where you could say, yeah, that’s about what it cost to do this.’”
‘a 40.4 percent decline in total units…‘It wasn’t significantly slower.’
‘Ian Peterson, Twin Cities division president with David Weekley Homes, attributes the July pause to a strong spring that borrowed future demand’
We used to talk about this a bit.
‘Ordinarily, in the last few years, the Pauls’ experience would have been considered an uncommon steal in a highly sought-after neighborhood — a blip in an always ascending market’
And trees grow to the sky in Philadelphia. You got to be kidding.
‘Last spring we were selling anything… and now my sellers are, like, ‘What’s going on?’…We’re at the top of the bell curve, and we’re seeing softness. Sellers are talking about it. Agents who are entrenched in the market are seeing it.’
And the media is suddenly seeing it. Or mentioning it. I’m calling BS on this new rush to get ahead of the housing bubble. Like Bloomberg saying “crikey, shack prices are falling all over the world!”
Uh, yeah, and they have been for a at least a couple of years.
“And the media is suddenly seeing it. Or mentioning it. I’m calling BS on this new rush to get ahead of the housing bubble. Like Bloomberg saying “crikey, shack prices are falling all over the world!””
https://i.imgur.com/ITxsoYk.jpg
” “According to Lawrence Yun, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, the slowdown in Philadelphia and other cities is only ‘temporary’ and has been driven perhaps by rising interest rates or more first-time buyers seeking — and finding — lower prices.”
I look forward to much comedy gold from Mr. Yun, RE’s biggest cheerleader.
Alec Baldwin could do a great Lawrence Yun imitation on Saturday Night Live. Nothing for the SNL writers to do. The skits will just write themselves.
Read the comments section. A few desperate agents trying to convince the readers the market is hot. Its now the best time to buy (i.e., collect my commissions)!
‘now my sellers are, like, ‘What’s going on?’
Totally. So just how did these loan-owners become conditioned like this? Look at the language in this article (of which I only posted a small bit):
‘heard the stories of Philadelphia’s cutthroat real estate market’
‘It would have been no surprise — understandable, eve…to succumb to the trend that has captured thousands of city residents in the last few years: diving head-first into the market, voraciously bidding for properties, and overpaying or waiving contingencies to obtain a home when necessary’
‘an always ascending market’
‘Last spring we were selling anything’
Gosh, I hope no one paid too much in such an environment.
Homes sold in May fetch about 2% more then those sold in July
May vs December 3%
So far mostly noise
phily is a bell surrounded by a sewer
remember Mayor Wilson Good ?
Santa Cruz, CA Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY Price Declines And Housing Depreciation Scorch Homeowners
https://www.movoto.com/santa-cruz-ca/market-trends/
“Home sales have slowed down this year in the Hamptons, bringing the median price below the $1m mark. Second-quarter sales fell 12.8 percent from 2017 levels, according to data prepared for Douglas Elliman by Miller Samuel Real Estate. The median price dropped 5.3 percent to a $975,000, compared with $1.03m a year earlier.
If home prices are dropping in The Hamptons - playground for the banksters and hedgies who have been the sole beneficiaries of the Fed’s “No Billionaire Left Behind” monetary policies - imagine how much worse the drop is going to be on heartland communities that have been systematically looted by the globalists and their neoliberal economics.
It seems safe to presume that “trickle down” theory applies to housing price declines.
More on rising mortgages and “affordability challenges.”
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/mortgage-rates-climb-as-housing-market-loses-its-mojo-2018-08-02?mod=newsviewer_click
‘The recent rate rise comes even as momentum in the housing market appears to be sputtering. Sales of previously-owned homes fell to the lowest point in five months in June, and sales of newly-constructed homes also tumbled. Even the white-hot price growth of the past few years seems to be decelerating.’
‘As MarketWatch reported in June, analysts increasingly think that the current real estate cycle may have run its course.’
Shack prices should never be “white-hot.” If they are somebody is getting schlonged.
‘With more homes to go around, buyers don’t need to bid as aggressively to win bidding wars, so prices, while still growing, are growing a lower rate, and home sales are slowing.’”
And the shrewd and patient are going to wait out the lunacy on the sidelines, until after the real crater party has left the landscape strewn with foreclosures and shell-shocked sellers who will chase any creditworthy potential buyer down the street offering deeper discounts.
And the shrewd and patient are going to wait out the lunacy on the sidelines
They’ve been waiting for about 15-20 years now. I think the Fed is determined to let them die waiting if possible.
“I think the Fed is determined to let them die waiting if possible.”
If this is the plan, then they’re in a tough spot, as round two since 1997 of historically unprecedented rates of housing price appreciation in the U.S. and most of the rest of the global economy is hitting a solid brick wall of household-level housing purchase budgets stretched to the breaking point of ever larger mortgage loans made to decreasingly qualified buyers in a rising interest rate environment… just as happened in 2007.
Is it too early for QE4?
“And the shrewd and patient are going to wait out the lunacy on the sidelines, until after the real crater party has left the landscape strewn with foreclosures and shell-shocked sellers who will chase any creditworthy potential buyer down the street offering deeper discounts.”
That’s right.
Why buy it when you can rent it for half the monthly cost? Buy later after prices Crater for 75% less.
Tarzana, CA Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Depreciation Slams LA Area Homeowners
https://www.zillow.com/tarzana-los-angeles-ca/home-values/
*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart
‘The median price dropped 5.3 percent’
‘Judi Desiderio, chief executive at Town & Country Real Estate in East Hampton, said there is a ‘glut in the market,’ with pricing pressures most pronounced at the highest end. ‘Those homes are being brought down significantly,’ said Ms Desiderio. ‘We have seen houses listed at $15m brought down to $12m, and maybe trading at $9m or $10m.’
Sounds like more than 5%. It’s funny how the media reports this. The Hamptons have been getting their a$$ kicked for years now.
ya - they certainly know how to play with average/median and excluding certain data that is ‘not applicable’
From the comments to the Kansas article:
‘This fiasco, approved by our city commission, has been a complete waste of taxpayer’s time and money. Bob Schumm, being the savvy business man and past commissioner, failed to do his due diligence? with our city commission following blindly (with the exception of 2)!’
‘Home sales are falling hard this year. This and the stoppage of the building on the apartments west of town are bad signs.’
‘Take a look at the existing condos for sale in Lawrence which you might call comparable. 900 New Hampshire has one for $455/sq ft. Bella Sera has two for sale at $227/sq ft and $261/sq ft respectively. He is likely putting himself at the high end of the market with the exception of one at the Oread presently for sale for $535 sq/ft.’
‘Had Schumm tempered his greed is establishing his price points we would have probably ended up subsidizing luxury condos for the well-to-do.’
‘Now wait a minute. Other than the token “affordable” condo that was used as subterfuge to sell this money grab to the lost liberals on the City Commission, these were no garden variety condominiums.
11 units priced at 295 per square foot. Then in the fine print another 200 per square foot to “finish” the condos. That translates to a cool half million dollars plus per unit (assuming a minimum size of 1,000 square feet per unit).’
‘Did any of you folks realize that Mike Amyx, Lisa Larsen and Stuart Boley voted to give away 1.3 million dollars of our money to subsidize 11 luxury condos for the local millionaires. Hats off to Matt Herbert and Leslie Soden for voting against this debacle’
‘Yeah, tax incentives for building a personal residence with some office space seems like a great precident to set… Can’t help but wonder if Schumm pulling out is motivated instead by fear after watching his developer buddy Fritzel be indicted for tax fraud.’
“Regarding why there was not more interest in the condos, Schumm said he thinks the main reason was cost, especially in comparison with existing housing in Lawrence. He said the sales price of an unfinished condo in Vermont Place was $295 per square foot, as compared with about $150-200 per square foot in the existing housing market in Lawrence.”
At the end of the day price matters.
Centreville VA Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY As Housing Correction Whacks NoVa/DC Market
https://www.movoto.com/centreville-va/market-trends/
Centreville is not the most desirable location in NoVa/DC. The commute to anywhere is awful and nowhere near any metro.
Other areas are still high..
‘Places like Seattle and Washington, D.C., which both have a short supply of homes available, saw double-digit increases in homes for sale in June’
So where did these shacks come from? I’m asking you “build your way to affordability” posters. Were they built in June? No. So it must have been shack gamblers who always figured they could time the market. Speculators. And it’s happening all over the country, at the same time.
I know that some folks here dont like the cost/benefit of downtown condos. But the fact that prices are starting to come down in Seattle is a very good sign at a getting to a better place.
In my (well regarded condo building) - we just saw a 1 bdrm 600 sq ft unit being reduced $40K (about 8%) - so it is a start. People start to really panic after 6-12 months.
A quick look on Zillow shows that of the 25 cheapest SFH listings here on MI, 40% (10) have had price reductions. most ~$50K, but 3 over $100K reductions (prices from $1.15M to $2.1M)
Total inventory for sales is down from previous months though… the late spring/early summer ‘boom’ seems to have been smaller this year. Not sure the numbers are big enough to be significant (< 100 homes for sale) Also noting that’s only 22 homes under $2.00M, so the audience is limited.
The guy from Seattle Bubble Blog does a very good job.
https://seattlebubble.com/blog/2018/08/02/july-stats-preview-the-2018-listings-surge-continues/
Seattle is in King County - see the listings and the deeds
‘does a very good job…’
Case-Shiller Tiers: To. The. Moon.
Written by The Tim on March 28th, 2018.
Case-Shiller: Seattle kicks off 2018 with surging home prices
Written by The Tim on March 27th, 2018.
Share of sales in cheap parts of King County hit all-time high as prices keep climbing
Written by The Tim on March 22nd, 2018.
“The guy from”…..
Clown
What are your credentials there Haystacks? I worked one cube over from said Clown when he created that website.
Unlike yourself, he actually analyzes the data and doesn’t make up fake headlines and post bogus links.
Hello my good friend.
Bellevue, WA Rental Rates Crater 13% YOY As Seattle Housing Glut Builds
https://www.zillow.com/bellevue-wa-98004/home-values/
*And don’t forget to select price from rental chart
Seattle(Fairmount), WA Housing Prices Crater 8% YOY As RE Media Consultants Fail To Conceal Price Declines
https://www.zillow.com/fairmount-park-seattle-wa/home-values/
*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart
Shacks are coming from retiring boomer gov workers who are moving south. I know of several. And probably some rentals which are being put up for sale.
And yes, lots of speculators who see the peak and want to get out.
‘retiring boomer gov workers who are moving south…And probably some rentals’
If they can selectively list when they perceive a market peak, they were speculators all along. Note this inventory surge is in the most expensive areas where we have been told there was a shortage - for years. This busts open the myth for all to see. And the REIC had a canned excuse ready and waiting: buyer fatigue. Funny that buyers weren’t fatigued when they thought sweet quick riches were there for the taking.
Debtor Fatigue: When no more can be borrowed and all hope is lost.
If living in a house 25+ years and paying it off and then selling it for higher than you bought it is speculation, well then call us all speculators. Does this mean that renters specu-shorters?
And if a retiree lives in the house for a year or so and waits for the house to appreciate before selling and moving, SO WHAT? He paid that mortgage, hasn’t he earned the right to do that? Why does HBB guilt-trip honest homeowners in such a way? Do you feel guilty if you sell a stock for a higher price than you paid?
Why? Because this is the biggest housing mania in history. Devoting 30 years of your productive working life to carry a shack purchased at several times it’s replacement cost with borrowed money is absolutely crazy. It is only done with the wild expectation of profit. Very risky proposition.
“If they can selectively list when they perceive a market peak, they were speculators all along.”
“If living in a house 25+ years and paying it off and then selling it for higher than you bought it is speculation, well then call us all speculators.”
There’s a big difference between living in a house for the duration of your career in close proximity to your workplace before selling and relocating to a retirement community elsewhere, versus hastily timing your home sale to get out before a crash after a few years of double-digit price gains during a mania, which is what Ben described. Most people who work in bubbly areas won’t be able to cash out before the next crash sinks housing prices back to Earth, but those who are able to time the market will make out like bandits — just like the lucky few did in the 2004-2006 window.
Which reminds me, we have some family members in the process of moving out of a wealthy DC suburb to where they plan to retire out West — pretty much playing the market timing strategy Ben described to a tee. Their primary income source is a FIRE sector career. I’ll have to ask through the family grapevine whether their home sold yet. I had the feeling of sleeping in a gold mine when we stayed at their place a few years ago.
Realtors are liars.
check howmoneymoves.com definitely south
NC,SC,FL and TN
howmoneywalks.com click on map
Kirkland, WA Housing Prices Crater 5% YOY As Staggering China Economy Slams Seattle Area
https://www.movoto.com/kirkland-wa/market-trends/
(For the record, I’ve never been a ‘build your way to affordability’ poster)
I don’t think it so much means we magically have more supply than demand (ignoring the price differences between what sellers want and what buyers can afford), but rather that the feedback loop is really starting to intensify and the news is hitting critical mass. It’s too late for containment.
It’s not just speculators (buy and hold), but builders (who paid top $$ for the nice ranch house they leveled to build a max sq ft box), flippers (who renovated that ranch house and need to make a tidy sum to break even), and those who are trying to ‘time their departure’ to a lower COL area.
As you have been so dutifully tracking, Ben, the MSM is now spreading the word of the “housing slowdown” and trying to ‘get ahead’ of the story (which has been underway for months and months now) and the 99.9% of people who don’t follow the housing news are now hearing the news, and some of them (potential sellers) are going “oh sh*t!” while others (potential buyers) are going “Maybe we don’t have to overbid… hmm.. let’s wait…” As the word goes viral, everyone is starting to react.
(ooh.. F18s flying low over the house… SeaFair time)
‘I’ve told so many different clients … ‘We can wait for the right property. Something will come along priced correctly.’
Correctly = commish!
…. and fraud.
In markets that have been tighter that average, like Seattle, buyer fatigue is pretty widespread. With the word of the slowdown now reaching them, we’re going to see a pretty big local reaction in the form of fewer bids, lower bids, and far fewer contingency clauses, waving of inspections, etc.
All the tension in the system ready to snap back the other way…
Only the indebted speculators are tense.
I’m pretty relaxed, though looking forward to when rent decline contagion spreads to San Diego.
‘One of the most contested properties …was removed in mid-April following complaints from neighbors of the nearby Quail Gardens neighborhood. Those residents complained of an oversaturation of affordable housing in the area’
What a compassionate bunch.
‘Ocasio-Cortez declined to comment for this article, but activists and political observers who spoke to THR were not surprised by her decision to eschew L.A.’s political establishment, noting that it was very much “on brand” for the candidate whose far-left New York City district makes her all but a lock to win in the November general election.’
“I totally get why she is staying away from the industry. She doesn’t need us,” says screenwriter Jennifer Levin (Beauty and the Beast, Unforgettable, Brothers & Sisters). Levin, who moonlights as a grassroots activist working to flip a number of California seats in the House of Representatives currently held by Republicans, says she is taking her 15-year-old daughter to see Ocasio-Cortez tomorrow. “Let’s be honest: We represent the money. We are the elite. And I think it’s a smart move.”
No affordable housing in your neighborhood, right Jennifer? I can just see it: “now Honey it’s OK if you shake her hand, but you’ll need to wash it quick. Those people don’t use toilet paper.”
The sheeple are flocking in droves to Democratic Socialists whose answer to everything is more free sh*t. When the parasites can vote themselves benefits paid for by the productive, it’s game over for Democracy.
‘it’s game over for Democracy’
hy·per·bo·le
hīˈpərbəlē/
noun
noun: hyperbole; plural noun: hyperboles
exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
synonyms: exaggeration, overstatement, magnification, embroidery, embellishment, excess, overkill, rhetoric
I’m really not that worried about democracy. The Washington Post uses it as a fig leaf, but they’re ass-hats.
Just look at this again:
‘Let’s be honest: We represent the money. We are the elite’
Oh how progressive you are Ms Levin.
The sheeple are flocking in droves to Democratic Socialists whose answer to everything is more free sh*t.
If you screw them over badly enough for long enough they do tend to be open to non-traditional ideas. Right wingers start getting more nationalist and left wingers start getting more socialist. But it’s two sides of the same coin. Maybe we should put some checks and balances on those in power to reduce their ability to screw over the masses so badly? Before somebody gets hurt?
‘Right wingers start getting more nationalist’
Like all the union members who voted for Obama twice then voted for Trump?
Something is going on, not sure it is logical. This Sandinista movement may just be a logical extension of the Democrat game plan. Open borders becomes free money/healthcare/college. Never mind that it’s impossible to have all that at the same time. It’s Bernie-nomics!
Both party establishments were for amnesty and so called free trade? Basically globalism. And I think that’s still the issue.
Like all the union members who voted for Obama twice then voted for Trump?
That was a nice touch for burying Her campaign :-).
I do think the people are correct who say you can have open borders or a welfare state but you can’t have both.
Or just a safety net. I’ve listened to Cortez. Seems kinda dumb. Open borders and guaranteed income? Sure. You go girl.
FIWI, college *used to* be nearly free at state schools. I went to a state school in the mid 90’s and in-state tuition was less than $2000/year. So I don’t want to say much against free college, except that
1. It should be for tuition/fees only (not room and board!)
2. It should be merit-based. Make ‘em get high grades or pass a placement test to get the money.
3. The student should need a 2.5-3 GPA to continue to get tuition.
I like Ocasio-Cortez. I don’t support all her views, but there are good many that I do. The current administration unilaterally just gave $12 billion to farmers. If that is not socialist redistribution, I do not know what is (see George Will’s column this week: “Our Socialist President”).
From her website on housing:
“Housing in the United States has become a playground for wealthy developers instead of a leg up towards the American Dream. In New York City specifically, money from luxury real estate developers has taken over our political establishment - leading to luxury rezonings that push out small businesses and working families, and leave a wake of empty units in their place.”
“Working New Yorkers can’t afford to stay in the communities their families have called home for generations. Families are rent burdened, and the city is experiencing the highest levels of homelessness since the Great Depression. While shelters go up, housing actually remains empty - there are three times the amount of empty luxury units as there are people experiencing homelessness in New York City.”
“So, what do we do?”
“Alexandria believes that housing is a right, and that Congress must tip the balance away from housing as a gambling chip for Wall Street banks and fight for accessible housing that’s actually within working families’ reach.”
“Congress has allowed most of our existing housing investments to go towards benefitting the wealthy. Alexandria supports extending tax benefits to working and middle-class homeowners, expanding the Low Income Housing Tax Credit, housing (not sheltering) the homeless, and permanently funding the National Affordable Housing Trust Fund.”
“By refusing money from luxury real estate developers, Alexandria can be trusted to fight for fair, inclusive housing policies that upend the overdevelopment that real estate speculators have imposed on New Yorkers. “
In other words, handing out money so people can pay higher prices. That always seems to be the solution. Let’s let housing prices fall so that people can afford houses on their own.
“Let’s let housing prices fall so that people can afford houses on their own.”
+1 Yes!
“…just gave $12 billion to farmers. If that is not socialist redistribution, I do not know what is…”
Isn’t socialism about free stuff for everyone? Nevermind the question of how manna from heaven gets produced — ask Nicolás Maduro.
Dumping money on farmers who are negatively impacted by tariffs is not socialism, because you have to be a producer to qualify.
“Gulag Barbie” LOLZ:
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/07/30/millennial-socialism-stupid-evil-or-both-n2504950
280 PERCENT INCREASE IN YOUNG DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISTS OF AMERICA CHAPTERS ON COLLEGE CAMPUSES
10:33 PM 08/01/2018
Zachery Schmidt
http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/01/democratic-socialists-of-america-campuses/
Gimme dat free sh*t!
+1 Progressive on steroids.
‘We have seen houses listed at $15m brought down to $12m, and maybe trading at $9m or $10m.’
$6,000,000 off of $15,000,000 is a 40% reduction.
Who overpays for a house by $6,000,000 to begin with? I guess the planet hasn’t run out of dumb rich people.
Housing isn’t the only case where an inventory buildup is pressuring down prices.
Oil Markets
Oil Prices Fall Sharply as U.S. Inventories Rise
Decline follows EIA report that U.S. crude-oil inventories increased by 3.8 million barrels last week
By Dan Molinski and
Christopher Alessi
Updated Aug. 1, 2018 5:33 p.m. ET
…
Have you checked the price today? It is up over 2 percent for WTI.
One day of price movement does not a trend make.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/02/oil-market-us-crude-inventories-in-focus.html
August 2
“Oil rises 1.9%, settling at $68.96, boosted by report of falling US crude stockpiles”
LOL, so which is it?!
The rush for the exits has just jumped in Orange County. Mission Viejo listings averaged 920 over past few months. Last week 940, today 1,048.
Listings in neighboring, upscale, Laguna Niguel over past few months averaged 230. Last week 309. Today 343. Looking at the reduced priced homes on realtor it’s easy to see from property history that many of the homes were purchased within past two years to flip. There’s going to be a lot of pain for those flippers who paid $750K for a two bed 1,300 sq ft shack that they thought they could dress up and turn for 1.2m. Not happening!
Seeing this in LA County too, especially the Chinese-heavy ‘burbs in San Gabriel Valley. A lot of the hot Chinese money disappeared the last couple of years, and those same flips (i.e. turn 800k from 2016/17 into 1.2M in 2018) have either been delisted after lingering on the market for weeks, or begrudgingly rented. One of my former neighbors sold his place in a nice neighborhood to such a flipper last year, and that flipper has since tried to rent it out with no luck. Said flipper insisted “student demand” would quickly snap up her rental listing, but the view from my front porch says otherwise
“Orange County. Mission Viejo” … what.bunch.of.looney.tune$
Thee.oh.$ee, Mi$$ion Pendejo, rápido rápido ariba ariba!
(Spanish for “Go on! Go on! Up! Up!”, although “Ándale arriba” may have been intended as meaning “hurry up”),
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Napa, CA Housing Prices Crater 5% YOY As Widespread Mortgage Fraud Emerges
https://www.movoto.com/napa-ca/market-trends/
Alot of people live in their cars now:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-01/number-americans-living-their-vehicles-explodes-middle-class-collapses
But they are big SUVs financed with subprime loans for seven years
People are doing more than just “living”in their cars now:
Michigan: Man parked in van on side of I-94 found brain dead after overdosing, a meth lab was also working.
Buyers in expensive neighborhoods find more homes for sale
Published: Aug 2, 2018 12:32 p.m. ET
Home builders appear to be constructing pricier homes
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Cities like San Jose, Calif., are seeing more homes listed for sale this summer.
By Jacob Passy
Home buyers in high-priced housing markets saw some relief in July, but it’s too early to tell whether that trend will continue.
The inventory of homes listed for sale increased year-over-year in 16 of the 45 largest metropolitan areas nationwide in July, according to a report released Wednesday by Realtor.com. They included markets that have experienced some of the most pronounced home price growth since the Great Recession, such as San Jose, Calif., and Seattle.
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Good news: My wife made her first local non-Chinese friend this week.
Bad news: It’s a house flipper.
I told my wife I hope her new friend gets her projects wrapped up and sold soon or there will be a lot of pain. Wife thinks I worry too much. I’m just glad it’s taking her so long to get her money out of China.
It doesn’t take that long to move 1M out of China, as long as you can find 99 other people you can trust on the other end…
She has bigger problems than that. The guy most of her money was invested with got hit by a car and it’s working its way through the system of lawyers for his estate unwinding his investments in non-public companies…
But on the subject you mention, it’s even easier if you know and trust people who need to move dollars to China.
If China does not capitulate to Trump soon it is going to find that India, Vietnam and similar countries have taken its place on the supply chain. Then a lot of Chinese are going to want to move money out to build factories in those countries. MAGA.
I was thinking his actual reasoning for the tariffs is to encourage companies to repatriate the manufacturing jobs from China back to the US.
But indeed, from China’s perspective, if those jobs go anywhere else, it’s a loss. Will be interesting to see how it goes.
It is to get many of them back here. But even if we just get them to move to countries which are more willing to engage in fair trade we win. Also anything that keeps china from increasing its wealth and the ability to fund a military build up is a win. For China the trade war is unmitigated disaster. It was on the road to world domination, then Trump rolled out the spike strip. MAGA
repatriate the manufacturing jobs from China back to the US.
That would be easy all money you bring back to america and spend on Americans is tax free….
Pay your cronies a 20% bonus, but then everybody in the company also gets the same 20% bonus, yes the secretaries mail room janitor all share in the tax free money
Buy back your stock and put it into a ESOP or make sure employees wind up with a bigger share of the company in their retirement accounts with the tax free money
Build the I pad in Kansas with tax free money
Yep, 4d chess that had the globalists and their eCONomist puppets saying it was going to be the end of the world. Just the end of the fraud ponzi that is the Chinese Economy. Sum Ting Wong aint gonna be happy!
Potomac Falls, VA Housing Prices Crater 18% YOY As Land Prices Collapse
https://www.movoto.com/potomac-falls-va/market-trends/
when is the bottom gonna fall out of the market? 10 more years?
Which market are you talking about?
Housing? Equities? Bonds? Precious Metals? Collectibles?
Nightly Business Report for 01-Aug-18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eB-8uVBbUA
Comedy material starts at 3:40
Beth Ann Bovino Phd
U.S. Chief Economist
Global Economics and Research
Beth Ann claims that slowdown in housing has more to do with the weather than the economy…
The weather, the ‘ol standby. Thought only Lawrence Yun used ‘the weather’ as an excuse anymore.
Couldn’t we all move on to something more progressive? How about the long overdue invasion of the killer bees. If there is anything that will keep buyers away, its killer bees.
Do not get stung in a real estate deal.
If u want to buy a home you better be prepared to beg for a loan and prove your a reliable debt slave.
I bought a house. I wrote a check. The price was right for me and I didn’t need to grovel to anyone. Those who save instead of borrow to pay for what they buy can do this.
The house is a convenience, but my home is my boat.
You wouldn’t understand.