August 6, 2018

The Irony Of A Glut Of Housing Languishing Empty

A report from the Miami Herald in Florida. “For renters, Miami’s greater downtown area is the place to be. Budget-conscious home buyers should consider Homestead, Miami Shores and Kendall. Investors will want to pay attention to the Design District. Miami Beach remains popular, but watch out for inflated prices. Analysts say the increased optimism reflects an oversupply of unsold condos and a growing number of new rentals buildings — two factors that should make sellers and landlords adjust their asking prices in order to remain competitive.”

“‘You’re starting to see the repercussions of overbuilding,’ said Peter Zalewski, founder of Cranespotters, a website that tracks condo development in South Florida. ‘The supply of rental apartments is going through the roof and as the cranes come down, rents are going to come down, too. And there’s a 32-month supply of condos in downtown Miami alone, so the only way you’re going to move a condo in this market is to lower your price.’”

“Half of the study respondents said the current market inventory of luxury properties priced at $1 million and above is high, with comments such as ‘the industry is stagnant,’ ‘tons of inventory on the market much longer’ and ‘buyers’ market right now.”

“According to the most recent residential market study by Integra Realty Resources, nearly 4,800 new rental apartments were completed from 2014-2018 in the Greater Downtown Miami area. Another 5,062 units are currently under construction — and that number doesn’t include the large number of condos that will be listed for rent by their out-of-town owners.”

“Daniel de la Vega, president of One Sotheby’s International Realty, said luxury properties are trading at 15 percent to 20 percent lower than their asking price, but they’re still selling. ‘You have seven months’ supply in the million-dollar single-family home market and 70 months’ supply at the over-$10 million range, so there’s a lot of inventory,’ he said. ‘But these properties are still selling and the [luxury] market is going to continue to appreciate. It will just be at a normal pace, nothing drastic.’”

“Henry Torres, CEO of The Astor Companies, said that although the pre-construction buyers overall at his Merrick Manor condo development at 4200 Laguna St. are 60 percent foreign, this year’s buyers have been predominantly locals, with foreign buyers ‘few and far between,’ he said. Construction is expected to be completed by the end of 2018, and 58 percent of the condos have already been sold. ‘We used to have a big influx from Venezuela, but that has slipped to practically nothing,’ Torres said.”

The Post and Courier in South Carolina. “For two or three days every year when July turns to August, the narrow streets of downtown Charleston become an obstacle course. It’s the routine shuffle of college students from one house to another as most rental leases turn over Aug. 1 to coincide with the school year. New luxury apartments such as 930 NoMo on Morrison Drive and SkyGarden on Woolfe Street were built as student housing, and they’re more than a step up from the traditional dormitory-style dwellings of past generations. They offer high-end furnishings, outdoor pools, fitness centers, study rooms and even tanning salons.”

“A sampling of recent listings of homes for rent on the peninsula showed prices per bedroom were roughly the same as those in the apartment complexes. Will Parker moved into 930 NoMo on Tuesday after living in apartments in historic properties the past two years. He said that while those places were unique, they weren’t very well maintained. Plus, he felt like he was getting more for the money. ‘I’m just kind of sick of living in old housing,’ he said. ‘This place is a lot more spacious, and I think it’s actually cheaper.’”

“Marion Hawkins, president of the neighborhood association, said the mix of residents seems to be changing again, possibly as a result of the new student apartment developments. ‘I’ve heard from several people in the last six months or so that different landlords who have always been able to rent to students are seeing a lot of vacancies they haven’t seen before,’ he said. ‘That kind of college rental market in the neighborhood and throughout the city seems to be softening.’”

The Columbia Daily Tribune in Missouri. “With less than two weeks before almost 30,000 University of Missouri students descend on Columbia, fierce competition that sent one housing property into foreclosure this year continues unabated, with offers of as many as three months of free rent dangled in front of prospective tenants.”

“Brookside Midtown at College Avenue and Walnut Street has a large banner promising to beat any competitors’ rent. The Rise on Ninth Street, which was offering to buy out freshman housing contracts at this time last year, has advertised a $1,200 incentive this year. To compete with those newer buildings close to campus, Campus View is offering free rent for May, June and July.”

“The pressure on landlords is twofold – a continuing decline in enrollment and more aggressive marketing of residence halls. The market casualty was The Row, an 82-unit, 328-bed townhouse-style duplex student housing development on Commercial Drive, sold for $7.6 million in a March foreclosure auction to Fannie Mae. TwinRock Partners, which purchased the property with an $11.25 million mortgage in 2016, continues to own The LYFE at Missouri on Buttonwood, a 450-bed complex built in 2006, which it purchased, also in 2016, for $21.6 million.”

“Alexander Phillips, president of TwinRock, was not available for an interview but was optimistic about the market in 2016. ‘Missouri is the flagship school for the state. It’s an SEC school,’ he said. ‘There’s no reason for it not to rebound.’”

“The rebound is coming but it won’t be this fall. And there are not just fewer students overall, MU will keep a record number of returning students on campus in residence halls. The incentives can make rent very reasonable. Danae Nash, a leasing consultant at Campus View, said the three months free can be taken as a discount each month, making a bedroom as cheap as $248 per month.”

“‘Yeah, honestly, truly, I feel the money is what is making it go around,’ she said. ‘Everybody is trying their best with incentives.’ The complex is marketed to students but is not exclusively students, she said. ‘We take anyone who can agree to our qualifying guidelines and a background check,’ she said.”

“Campus View is owned by Peak Campus, the second-largest operator of student housing in the country, which states it has 48,000 beds across in 89 properties worth more than $3.5 billion from Maine to California. The Brookside properties are locally owned by a company led by Jon and Nathan Odle, who also have developments at Discovery Park. Brookside Midtown is offering to match or beat other offers is a part of the market right now, spokesman Jack Cardetti said.”

“‘Many of the housing investment that comes in from out of state is to develop properties with an eye to selling them,’ Cardetti said.”

From Senior Housing News. “Capital Senior Living’s only salvation may be in its owned real estate, according to analysts from Stephens and Stifel. The Dallas-based senior housing provider reported ‘disappointing’ financial results for the second quarter of 2018, as well as a drop in occupancy for consolidated and same communities to 85.5%. Currently, Capital Senior Living leadership ‘is fighting an uphill battle to stabilize occupancy, contain costs and regain investor confidence,’ according to a July 31 note from Stifel analysts.”

“Stifel estimates Capital’s owned real estate is valued at $7 to $9 per share. Stephens, on the other hand, estimates that Capital’s real estate is valued between $6.41 and $16.75 per share, assuming cap rates of 6.5% to 7.5%. As of market close on Wednesday, Capital’s share price had fallen 23.12% to $7.68.”

From Next City on Colorado. “Sometimes, the solution to a seemingly intractable problem is staring you right in the face. That turned out to be the case in Denver, Colo., where a fix for the mounting affordable housing crisis was standing smack in the middle of the city’s booming skyline — in the form of 21,000 brand-new, market-rate apartments sitting vacant, while some 13,000 Denver residents struggle to make rent each month.”

“It all started last year with a series of brainstorming sessions among friends in the affordable housing business — finance and equity specialists, dealmakers, policy folks, we ran the gamut. We were mulling over the irony that so many teachers, police officers and health care workers were getting priced out of a city with a glut of quality housing — something many U.S. communities experience today. And then it dawned us: why couldn’t Denver use a private housing subsidy, with municipal support, to match some of those families with unrented apartments?”

“And in less than a year, those conversations led to a first-of-its-kind initiative called LIVE Denver (LIVE stands for Lower Income Voucher Equity), that will bring hundreds of those vacant units within financial reach of severely rent-burdened families. Just last month, the Denver City Council approved a $1.2 million funding partnership to make it happen.”

“Sure, there are observers who say that the city’s high rents will eventually decline because supply so outstrips demand. But those kinds of market adjustments can take years, and they’re not guaranteed. Working people need help now. As LIVE Denver has unfolded, we are hearing from other cities such as Seattle and San Antonio, with similar housing quagmires — too few affordable homes, too many families priced out of the places they live, and too many market-rate units languishing empty.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 08:40:28

‘Daniel de la Vega, president of One Sotheby’s International Realty, said luxury properties are trading at 15 percent to 20 percent lower than their asking price, but they’re still selling. ‘You have seven months’ supply in the million-dollar single-family home market and 70 months’ supply at the over-$10 million range, so there’s a lot of inventory,’ he said. ‘But these properties are still selling and the [luxury] market is going to continue to appreciate’

Sure Daniel.

‘Many of the housing investment that comes in from out of state is to develop properties with an eye to selling them’

Ahem…

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 08:46:51

‘You have seven months’ supply in the million-dollar single-family home market and 70 months’ supply at the over-$10 million range, so there’s a lot of inventory’

As has been posted here before, the REIC are serious liars about things in Miami, like not counting planned/under construction units (many thousands which are for sale too) and the like.

 
Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-08-06 08:51:40

Daniel needs to learn how to appreciate depreciation.

It’s on the menu along with crow and CraterTaters so eat up Daniel. Eat up.

 
Comment by octal77
2018-08-06 12:05:23

“….70 months’ supply at the over-$10 million range,…”

How large can the >=$10mm market possibly be?

Is there an endless supply of uber-weathly suckers?

For me, the folks over at One Sotheby’s International Realty just don’t pass the smoke test.

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 12:28:36

A few months ago some complete numbers were published and the $3M and up condos were at a 20 year supply.

 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-08-06 08:43:27

North Bethesda, MD Housing Prices Crater 20% YOY As Federal Workforce Reductions Accelerate

https://www.movoto.com/north-bethesda-md/market-trends/

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-08-06 08:48:31

More olds who are poors are going bankrupt in USA:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/05/business/bankruptcy-older-americans.html

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-06 09:03:50

May I offer this up as a possible solution?

https://youtu.be/Vf6bQ_5_q24

 
Comment by Sean
2018-08-06 10:16:25

The shame of articles like this is they lump someone with unexpected cancer with someone who has a mortgage at 75 as the same. They aren’t. I feel bad for people battling health issues and going broke, but someone who lives of SS and says “I can’t cover my mortgage”. I dont feel bad at all for them. But here comes Mr. Banker with Magnum PI with a way to tap into YOUR wealth!

Comment by Apartment 401
2018-08-06 10:32:24

This is an article written by “real journalists” at the New York Times.

Were you expecting them to make that distinction?

 
Comment by Montana
2018-08-06 16:04:50

I think cosigning for your grown kid’s photography degree is dumb, too.

 
 
Comment by rms
2018-08-06 16:57:48

“More people are also entering their later years carrying debt. For many of them, at least some of the debt is a mortgage — roughly 41 percent in 2016, compared with 21 percent in 1989, according to an Urban Institute analysis.”

Wonder how many of these were HELOC fun money?

 
Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 17:38:55

“When I moved here from Los Angeles, I was wondering why all of these older people were working in convenience stores and fast-food restaurants…”

I live in Las Vegas, and I haven’t observed this supposed trend.

Comment by Montana
2018-08-06 18:50:40

All immigrants there now?

 
Comment by Tarara Boomdea
2018-08-06 23:44:26

I’m in Las Vegas and I see it all the time. Older people are doing the jobs teenagers used to do. I was shocked at that when we got here but for all that I know that’s happened by now in NY too. Middle aged men working as supermarket cashiers…unbelievable.

 
 
Comment by Boo Randy
2018-08-06 18:17:14

Karma catching up to the Boomers. They ruined this country and turned it over to the corporatocracy; now they’re skipping out on their debts in one final act of irresponsibility. F**k them. The most decent thing they can do is shuffle off this mortal coil post-haste.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 08:50:54

‘The market casualty was The Row, an 82-unit, 328-bed townhouse-style duplex student housing development on Commercial Drive, sold for $7.6 million in a March foreclosure auction to Fannie Mae. TwinRock Partners, which purchased the property with an $11.25 million mortgage in 2016, continues to own The LYFE at Missouri on Buttonwood, a 450-bed complex built in 2006, which it purchased, also in 2016, for $21.6 million.’

‘Alexander Phillips, president of TwinRock, was not available for an interview but was optimistic about the market in 2016. ‘Missouri is the flagship school for the state. It’s an SEC school,’ he said. ‘There’s no reason for it not to rebound.’

Well that’s an excuse for you to draw a paycheck until you walk away from that one too Alex. So just why is Fannie Mae involved in high end student financing?

Mel “can I kiss your tattoo” Watt, you out there? Maybe he’s busy clearing out his desk.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 08:54:01

‘a fix for the mounting affordable housing crisis was standing smack in the middle of the city’s booming skyline — in the form of 21,000 brand-new, market-rate apartments sitting vacant’

And the various REIC websites will tell you Denver has a low single digit vacancy rate and skyrocketing rents.

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Comment by Apartment 401
2018-08-06 10:34:16

Here in Denver, the Realtor lies are mile high lies.

 
 
Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-06 08:58:34

Happy Monday everybody!

Oh, except for maybe these guys …

“BBC News: Homes lost after mortgage computer bug”

“A flaw in a US bank’s computer software led to 625 customers not receiving government loan assistance to which they were entitled - and 400 of those went on to lose their homes.”

Darn, I hate it when this happens.

“The government scheme was designed to help people struggling to pay their mortgages.”

We are from the government and we are here to help you. 😁

“Wells Fargo …”

Wells Fargo again. What a surprise!

“… told CNN Money there was no “clear direct cause and effect relationship” between the error and the loss of homes.”

Bahahahanahahahahahahahahahahahaha … Monday morning humor at its best.

“However, compensation is being offered.”

Because it is the right thing to do. 😁

“The bank has set aside $8m (£6m) to compensate those affected by the software error, which existed between April 2010 and October 2015.”

“Wells Fargo revealed the information in its latest quarterly financial report and said there were continuing efforts to identify other customers who might have also been affected.”

“In April 2018, it was fined $1bn by two US regulators to resolve investigations into car insurance and mortgage lending breaches.”

“It did not admit to any wrongdoing.”

Bahahahahaha … of course not.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45083644w

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-06 09:19:35

Ooooops, try this …

Homes lost after mortgage computer bug - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-45083644

Comment by tresho
2018-08-06 09:45:41

I can imagine a profitable TV series like “The Sopranos”, based on the real life shenanigans of the actual organized crime family known as “Wells Fargo”

 
 
 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-08-06 08:59:27

The kids are not alright:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/dont-become-another-statistic-in-the-student-debt-crisis-2018-08-06

And to all the Realtor trolls infesting the HBB lately, there is no “pent-up demand” for $500,000 starter homes.

There is a trillion and a half dollars of outstanding student loan debt (60+ percent of which is held by women), debt that is only dischargable by death (private loans live on after the borrower’s death, hat tip to Mr. Banker).

Millennials and Generation Z are f*cked, and they’re not buying your overpriced shacks.

Comment by Sean
2018-08-06 09:49:44

Hey, let’s lay off the Realtors. They had to take a three week course to become a Licensed Expert and Analyst.

Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-08-06 10:59:06

What cracks me up is that I see realtors lately talking about a shortage of property and “not enough construction workers”. It makes me think, “Well, why don’t you roll up your sleeves and go do some actual work. Go make a house instead of being a rent-seeker.”

 
Comment by Apartment 401
2018-08-06 11:09:18

The licensing requirements to braid hair are more stringent than to become a Realtor, LOLZ.

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-08-06 11:14:11

They conduct job fairs at state parole offices.

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Comment by Albuquerquedan
2018-08-06 13:15:07

I thought becoming a realtor would be a violation of parole conditions? Isn’t it association with known felons?

 
 
 
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Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-06 12:47:29

“hat tip to Mr. Banker”

Nuthin to it.

Step 1: Dumb down the voters (already accomplished by No Child Left Behind)

Step 2: Throw into the political process some hand-picked candidates whose souls are wholly owned by us money folks.

Step 3: Do whatever it takes to get these guys elected so that they can get enacted into law rules and regulations that favor us and us alone.

Step 4: Profit.

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-06 13:54:17

Step 2: Throw into the political process some hand-picked candidates whose souls are wholly owned by us money folks…

…and be sure they get the nominations from all the major parties. And then have your stooges in the media denounce all other parties as not serious choices.

 
 
Comment by strawman
2018-08-06 13:42:30

“hat tip to Mr. Banker”

The legislation that made student debt non-dischargeable in bankruptcy was introduced in the Senate by none other than Joe Biden, hope (him and Kamala Harris) of the Democrats for unseating Trump in 2020. The fact that this state of affairs is literally his doing, and still they’re pinning the future on him, is mind-boggling. They are finished.

Comment by Mr. Banker
2018-08-06 15:30:02

“They are finished.”

They are not finished until my buddies and I say they are finished.

 
Comment by Montana
2018-08-06 16:09:23

Make all new loans dischargeable.

The get yer popcorn.

 
Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 18:38:21

https://www.ibtimes.com/joe-biden-backed-bills-make-it-harder-americans-reduce-their-student-debt-2094664

“The initiative was backed by one of Biden’s top supporters: Delaware-based credit card titan MBNA. Not only had the company’s employees collectively become one of his largest campaign contributors, the firm had employed Biden’s son Hunter right out of law school and later paid Hunter Biden consulting fees while his father pushed the bankruptcy bill. MBNA’s top executive had purchased Biden’s Delaware home for a price that Biden’s political opponents depicted as a sweetheart deal to a powerful legislator.”

In case anyone thought the dems are on the side of the little folks. But they’ll still somehow convince sheeple that they are.

As Mr. Banker says…

1. Dumb ‘em down.
2. Profit.

Comment by hunkydory
2018-08-06 18:49:49

Biden likes them young. You see all the pictures on the net of him getting all touchy feely with the ladies - even the VERY young ones? Dude is Uncle Creepy fo sho. Cabal likes him for prez in 2020 = they got video(s) of his crimes.

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Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 17:50:33

This article claims more students are attending college. But elsewhere I have read that post-secondary enrollment has been declining for a few years.

 
 
Comment by Professor 🐻
2018-08-06 09:05:44

‘But these properties are still selling and the [luxury] market is going to continue to appreciate. It will just be at a normal pace, nothing drastic.’

Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.

 
Comment by Sam (SW)
2018-08-06 09:18:53

How does Miami luxury property appreciate when sellers are taking 20% less than they’re asking price?

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 09:45:00

Make it up on volume?

 
 
Comment by crispy&cole
2018-08-06 09:24:33

Chinese stock market continues to tank…yuan devaluation continues…Seattle RE headed for a crash in prices, 25% downside possible

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Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 17:55:09

But doesn’t China need lots of copper to wire all those cities they’re building?

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-07 10:11:57

I’m sure they did. But maybe now they’ve decided to stop building more ghost cities?

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Comment by b
2018-08-06 12:21:06

Where did you see that Seattle RE having a possible 25% downside. There has to be a downside - especially in Condos, houses in Ballard, Greenlake etc. Just trying to figure out what would realistically happen

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 09:50:45

This was posted this morning on the previous thread:

‘From the Financial Times, not exactly an outlier’:

“We now know that the US housing market had been coming apart since the previous summer but there was still a strong market for risk assets. Too much cash seemed to be lying idle with not enough yield on offer.”

https://www.ft.com/content/a8e3a258-9648-11e8-b747-fb1e803ee64e

Ah, yes, another MSM outfit trying to get out in front of the bubble. The previous summer?

February 24, 2017

“The mansion on Fallen Leaf Road in the secluded Upper Rancho neighborhood of Arcadia has all the trappings a wealthy buyer from China could want. Yet two months after it was placed on the market, the house remains unsold. Not long ago, real estate like this would have been snapped up almost immediately. ‘It would have been gone in two weeks with multiple offers,’ said Dee Chou, the property’s listing agent.”

“Median home prices have dropped in Arcadia to $930,000 at the end of last year from about $1.1 million at the start of 2015. In San Marino, the median price for a home was $2.5 million as recently as the second quarter of last year before tapering to $2.2 million by the fourth quarter. Agents say the city is left with a surplus of luxury properties whose sellers could face pressure to reduce prices. One agent said her client had to drop his asking price for a property in Arcadia last summer to $8.3 million from $10 million because it drew no interest for three months. ‘All agents are crying that the money isn’t coming,’ said Sanne Lee, an agent for A + Realty & Mortgage in Rowland Heights.”

http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=10006

Miami Beach rolled over in 2015 IIRC. Even the condo king said the “bubble” had popped. NYC headed down in 2016. Who can forget this?

Greenwich Is the Worst US Housing Market, Sternlicht Says - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/…/starwood-s-sternlicht-says-greenwich-is-worst-u-s-hou...

Sep 13, 2016 - “You can’t give away a house in Greenwich,” Sternlicht said Tuesday at the CNBC Institutional Investor Delivering Alpha Conference’

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 09:52:50

‘One agent said her client had to drop his asking price for a property in Arcadia last summer to $8.3 million from $10 million because it drew no interest for three months’

Last summer in February 2017 would put that whopping reduction in mid-2016. Golly, it’s like the housing bubble popped long ago and the media somehow missed it!

 
Comment by strawman
2018-08-06 13:54:53

In the FT article, it’s not just the backdating to “the previous summer” that’s obnoxious.

If you read the quoted paragraph in context — and maybe this is evident even in isolation — it’s clear that the writer of the article must originally have written “the US housing market has been coming apart since …” (the whole article is a warning about what the copper market is forecasting). But this couldn’t be allowed in print, so they had to do something; yet the point was important enough to the argument that they couldn’t just cut it out. So they decided to move the whole paragraph into the past tense, putting the housing crash safely in the rear view mirror. But what’s left is bizarre and barely coherent English, with the surgical scars still showing.

Comment by BlueSkye
2018-08-06 17:54:38

The truth is not in them.

 
 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-08-06 10:37:52

North Palm Beach, FL Housing Prices Crater 10% YOY As Desperation Sets In And Inventory Skyrockets

https://www.movoto.com/north-palm-beach-fl/market-trends/

 
Comment by DirtyLawyer
2018-08-06 11:45:15

Ongoing series, this morning’s market was Boise, ID.

https://www.npr.org/2018/08/06/629410064/the-new-housing-crisis-shut-out-of-the-market

Reporter’s audio here: https://the1a.org/audio/#/shows/2018-08-06/the-roofs-over-our-heads-whats-behind-the-housing-shortage/115139/@00:00

I laughed when the reporter said that, in contrast to the last crash in 2007/08, “We’re just not seeing people coming in and speculating and buying up properties and flipping them, people are actually living in these homes”. Ummm, yeah. That is incorrect - I have seen this first hand.

Of course, nowhere in the discussion is the flood of cheap money, and how it fuels the bubble. Not mention that double-digit growth is unsustainable, and not supported by the job market. Not a word.

Comment by Ben Jones
2018-08-06 12:17:55

August 5, 2018

From the Idaho Press. “Boise’s hot real estate market is an inescapable topic these days. No matter if you are looking to purchase your first home, searching for an affordable apartment or just looking at your property tax bill, skyrocketing real estate prices have likely made an impact on your bottom line. At a Citizens Planning Academy discussion hosted by the nonprofit Idaho Smart Growth, more than a dozen attendees bandied about topics related to rising rent and home prices.”

“Capital City Development Corporation Real Estate Development Manager Shellan Rodriguez said Boise’s real estate market is currently squeezed by an influx of people and not enough housing for everyone, which has created rising prices across the spectrum.”

“Erik Kingston, housing resources coordinator for the Idaho Housing and Finance Association, said the nationwide market is being affected by a huge influx of investment from overseas, largely from China. That means investors are buying up real estate in historic quantities and renovating it to be at higher price points, owning it just for storage purposes and money laundering or using it as short-term rental units instead of for residents to live in.”

http://thehousingbubbleblog.com/?p=10520

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-06 13:56:29

Micron hit one out of the park this year…their strength may allow Boise to be the last to fall this time around.

 
Comment by DirtyLawyer
2018-08-06 15:18:43

Amazing! I’m going with the, “Yes, abso-freakin-lutely, people are investing/flipping in the Boise market”.

Maybe I’ll send the NPR guy the link.

 
 
 
Comment by Palm Beach, Florida
2018-08-06 12:33:09

DIMON: 10-year Treasury yield could hit 5%…

https://twitter.com/DRUDGE_REPORT/status/1026548427209887744

Comment by Taxpayers
2018-08-06 13:53:47

Got a decade in mind?

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-08-06 12:37:33

Carnation, WA Housing Prices Crater 11% YOY As Global Housing Correction Begins Its’ Impact On Seattle Area

https://www.movoto.com/carnation-wa/market-trends/

Comment by redmondjp
2018-08-06 15:13:50

There are not enough homes sold in the tiny town of Carnation to even make that conclusion, Haystacks.

When was the last time you were there?

Comment by Mafia Blocks
2018-08-06 15:20:10

Housing my friend

Little Torch Key, FL Housing Prices Crater 16% YOY As Housing Glut Expands

https://www.movoto.com/little-torch-key-fl/market-trends/

 
 
 
Comment by ahansen
2018-08-06 13:00:55

Just popping in to share some amusing RE snark. McMansion Hell is still upon us– only now it’s gone pro.

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/8/6/17654434/betsy-devos-yacht-mcmansion-hell

Comment by Carl Morris
2018-08-06 14:08:46

Howdy, hope all’s well in bear country…we’re in Folsom now and everybody is living in the USA at the moment :-).

I’m not bothered by the architecture, but I am bothered by something that big only having 3 bedrooms. I’m not really following what the goal was for the place…seems more commercial than residential.

 
Comment by hunkydory
2018-08-06 15:49:22

lol, libtards all jelly and hoping for climate change to smite their enemies. Keep holding your breath, annnny day now :)

 
Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 18:08:06

That house IS ugly as sin.

 
 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-08-06 13:16:35

Vancouver, BC Housing Demand Craters To 18 Year Low

https://globalnews.ca/news/4368090/vancouver-housing-sales-prices-dip/

 
Comment by b
2018-08-06 13:54:05

For future reference - What are the stages of grief for over leverage home buyers?

I am half serious here - to be able to recognize this

Decline in value over what we paid
- 0-5%. @(#&*, @(#78, @(#*& — it will get back to normal
- 5 - 15%. Tighten our belts - no going out for dinner or brunch, no christmas or birthday presents. Lets figure out what we can get if we put it on the market
- 15 - 25%. We lost our downpayment and many years of principal. Lets get the hell out of this property and never think about it

 
Comment by Taxpayers
2018-08-06 14:50:11

which has increased by $8,565 in the last 30 days

HA!

 
Comment by Mortgage Watch
2018-08-06 15:11:38

Bellaire, TX Housing Prices Crater 18% YOY As Rising Borrowing Costs Ravage Dallas/Fort Worth Housing Market

https://www.zillow.com/bellaire-tx/home-values/

*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2018-08-06 15:30:38

Not housing related but holy moly look at the date February 27, 1990

NOT SMOKING COULD BE HAZARDOUS TO PENSION SYSTEM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1990/02/27/not-smoking-could-be-hazardous-to-pension-system/0c2151ba-c38a-400d-aab5-bd45a5ba80ec/

Comment by Anonymous
2018-08-06 18:18:47

Actually, a few days ago here, someone made a post along those lines. Suggesting that pension costs are higher than planned due to less smoking and people living longer. So they collect more pension payments, and still rack up medical bills for problems not due to tobacco use.

Comment by aNYCdj
2018-08-06 18:46:55

That was me….i’ve been looking for some kind of validation for years,

Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-08-07 10:06:49

The economist just ran a story last week where they calculated the effects of smoking, alcoholism, and obesity on taxes and pensions. Smoking and alcohol reduce future entitlement obligations more than their social costs impost. However, obesity causes a net increase in expenditures because the medical comorbidities increase social healthcare spending more than than the reduced lifespan does.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2018-08-07 14:26:58

By getting healthy and living longer all those pension spiking tricks in the past are exponential increasing cost, because they thought a lot more would have died along the way.

Yet you can still retire at 55 with full benefits and working only 20-30 years but it was based on a 40% smoking rate not 13%

 
Comment by OneAgainstMany
2018-08-07 14:30:10

From a purely utilitarian and budgetary social policy perspective, it is probably more fiscally sound to encourage a sugar tax (or soda tax) than even a tax on cigarettes or alcohol.

 
 
 
 
 
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