Buyers Are’t Chasing The Moving, Runaway Train
A report from Canadian Mortgage Trends. “Last month the Canadian Mortgage and Housing Corporation (CMHC) formally asked the Canada Revenue Agency to take a more active role in verifying income claimed on mortgage applications in an effort to clamp down on mortgage fraud. The CMHC says the move is necessary given that ‘the industry’s current detection tools have not kept pace with the increasing sophistication of threat we face,’ according to its plan. Data backs this up, with a 2017 Equifax study finding that a full 13% of Canadians would be comfortable lying in order to get a mortgage approval. The study also noted a 52% rise in suspected fraudulent mortgages since 2013.”
“But not everyone is behind CMHC’s request for direct involvement from the CRA. Rena Malkah, owner of CYR Funding, has been a mortgage broker for 44 years and thinks this is an issue best left to underwriters. ‘Their job is to verify the claims. If they can’t they should be fired and replaced by someone who can,’ she said. She adds that credit rating is more important than income verification anyway. ‘If someone has a high credit rating, it shouldn’t matter what their income is. If they fight and scrap for under-the-table money to pay their bills on time, then it should be of no interest to the insurance company where the money comes from. And besides, involving CRA opens more people up to audit.’”
“Helen S. is a 61-year-old retired public accountant from Oakville, and the mother of a 26-year-old, and she agrees with Malkah. Her son earns just under $40,000 a year as a baker and she wants him to buy a home. She’s prepared to pay a percentage of the mortgage payments but she wants the mortgage in his name. ‘How I choose to set my son up for success is none of CRA’s business. I know he won’t default,’ she says. ‘My broker knows too. The CRA doesn’t have to be involved. We already give them enough money.’”
From the Georgia Straight in Canada. “The latest numbers from the B.C. Real Estate Association raise questions whether the B.C. government will achieve this year’s revenue target for property-transfer taxes. The BCREA revealed that there was a 23.9 percent decrease in Multiple Listing Service sales across B.C. in July, compared to the same month of 2017. The total dollar volume was $4.9 billion, down 24.2 percent from July 2017.”
“Earlier this month, the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver reported that detached homes on Vancouver’s West Side and in West Vancouver experienced the biggest annual price drops over the past year. They fell 8.4 percent and 8.3 percent, respectively, over a 12-month period. These areas have the most expensive homes.”
The Calgary Sun in Canada. “Calgary’s resale housing market remained firmly in buyers’ territory in July, according to the July report from the Calgary Real Estate Board. ‘Recent struggles in the job market, accompanied by yet another interest rate increase, are piling on to the decisions potential purchasers have to make in the housing market,’ says the report.”
The Leader Post in Canada. “June was a bad month for building permits across Canada, but Regina saw a bigger percentage drop in value than any large city in the country. Regina issued only $27.5 million worth of building permits in June of this year, compared to nearly $100 million the same month last year. That’s a drop of 72.4 per cent. Compared to May, the value of permits fell 44.5 per cent, more than any other census metropolitan area.”
“Jason Christbason, builder relations coordinator for the Regina and Region Home Builders’ Association, said part of the pressure comes from nationwide trends, like stricter mortgage rules put in place by the federal government. ‘Turn the clock back five years, you could go in and any day in any time and any bank and you had a mortgage,’ he said, explaining that a so-called ’stress test’ has made it much more difficult.”
“Mayor Michael Fougere said the city has a surplus of housing stock right now, something that might be keeping developers from moving forward with new projects. ‘I think we have an oversupply of housing,’ the mayor said. ‘That’s pretty obvious when you look at the vacancy rate.’”
From Domain News on Australia. “Marketers, vendors and agents are rushing to bring their sales campaigns forward rather than wait for September or October, spooked by reports of falling property values and auction clearance rates hovering at little more than 50 per cent. ‘There’s a lot of media attention about the market getting worse and people want to move now while they still have a bit of certainty,’ said Jim Larcan, a director of boutique property styling company Vitus Lee Chan. ‘There’s not much confidence out there right now.’”
“Coco Republic’s senior property stylist Jenny Conroy said business had been quiet in the first half of winter, with tighter lending practices putting the brakes on sales, but things had changed dramatically a few weeks ago making this one of the busiest periods the company has seen in years. ‘We are at capacity right now and it doesn’t look like this will end any time soon,’ she said. She said clients were also asking about extension rates for furniture if a property didn’t sell quickly.”
“However, chief executive of one of the largest property marketing providers CampaignTrack, Stefan Williams, said just because there was a bit more stock on the market to be sold doesn’t mean agents will be able to sell it, which is a big turnaround on market fortunes from this time last year. ‘It’s always busy at this time of year, but whereas last year was a case of agents struggling to source listings, now it’s a matter of selling it,’ he said.”
“Properties with redevelopment potential in top-notch positions, and sub $750,000 homes performed better than other real estate categories at weekend auctions. But stand-offs over asking prices are continuing to instill price uncertainty in Melbourne’s $1.5 million-plus housing market.”
“A buyer’s advocate at the auction, Kate Vines from Melbourne Property Advisory, said a sale price of just over $3 million represented a good purchase. ‘If you go back six months, that would have been an easy $3.2 million to $3.3 million property and it would have sold under competition,’ she said. ‘There is just no urgency. There is no panic out there. Buyers are taking their sweet time, because they can.’”
“Frank Valentic, of Advantage Property Consulting, said other townhouses and villa units in the northern suburbs had recently been passed in, or attracted only one bidder, before selling for prices below or just above their reserves. He said buyers were prepared to wait, and were putting in offers only if the price was right. ‘They’re not chasing the moving, runaway train at the moment,’ he said.”
The New Zealand Herald. “Tomorrow we will get a fresh update on the local housing market when REINZ releases it’s data for July. While winter is traditionally slow for the real estate sector, a slump across the Tasman has heightened concerns that we may see price falls here for the first time in several years. In Auckland, where prices have been flatlining for more than a year, the prospects of prices slipping in to negative territory looks increasingly real.”
“Sentiment in Sydney has turned fast. You’ve only got to scan the media coverage to see that stories about crash-risk and a buyers market are getting all the headlines. Even Reserve Bank Governor Adrian Orr has warned of the possibility. ‘We’re within a wisp of that happening in Auckland housing prices at the moment,’ Orr told TVNZ’s Q+A.”
“Stating in last week’s Monetary Policy Statement that rate rise was unlikely until 2020 has already helped to put downward pressure on mortgage rates. Regardless, the fact is that the Auckland housing market in 2018 looks very different to the one we have grown accustomed to. We need to brace ourselves for an economy that is no longer underpinned by the ‘wealth effect.’”
“As an infrastructure report (released today) by Chapman Tripp points out, house price growth has outstripped income growth in this country every year since 2003, producing one of the worst house price to income ratios in the OECD. Many homeowners simply won’t remember a time when the market wasn’t a one way bet.”
‘Kate Vines from Melbourne Property Advisory, said a sale price of just over $3 million represented a good purchase. ‘If you go back six months, that would have been an easy $3.2 million to $3.3 million property and it would have sold under competition,’ she said.’
So Kate you’re saying prices have dropped 200-300k in six months?
‘There is just no urgency. There is no panic out there.’
I got 5 Australian pesos that says you’re wrong about that.
‘Sentiment in Sydney has turned fast. You’ve only got to scan the media coverage to see that stories about crash-risk and a buyers market are getting all the headlines’
Kinda like California and Seattle.
Outliers, all.
Toano, VA Housing Prices Crater 10% YOY As Housing Recovery Begins Across Virginia
https://www.zillow.com/toano-va/home-values/
*Select price from dropdown menu on first chart
‘detached homes on Vancouver’s West Side and in West Vancouver experienced the biggest annual price drops over the past year. They fell 8.4 percent and 8.3 percent, respectively, over a 12-month period’
And to think they’ve been falling since spring 2016. I wonder why they don’t report the decline from the blow-out peak?
‘She’s prepared to pay a percentage of the mortgage payments but she wants the mortgage in his name. ‘How I choose to set my son up for success is none of CRA’s business. I know he won’t default’
Helen, see the above.
‘the fact is that the Auckland housing market in 2018 looks very different to the one we have grown accustomed to. We need to brace ourselves for an economy that is no longer underpinned by the ‘wealth effect.’
‘house price growth has outstripped income growth in this country every year since 2003, producing one of the worst house price to income ratios in the OECD. Many homeowners simply won’t remember a time when the market wasn’t a one way bet’
Man, this is like watching Wile E. Coyote and the Road Runner.
Kirkland, WA Housing Prices Crater 8% YOY As Mortgage Debacle Annihilates Seattle Housing Market
https://www.movoto.com/kirkland-wa/market-trends/
Looks like the price per square foot went up 5% YoY per your data. I think the lower median price may be due to the 11% decline in median home size. I’m watching the YoY price per square foot which isn’t as influenced by the types of homes being sold.
All that said, no way I’d buy a house right now, I think it’ll take a bit more time before the red shows up in all of the metrics.
Again.$/sq ft valuation is a poor performer as it excludes all items in the transaction except for the structure and the area of dirt directly under it.
Santa Monica, CA Housing Prices Crater 22% YOY As 2010-2016 Subprime Mortgages Fail
https://www.movoto.com/santa-monica-ca/market-trends/
A computer at MIT says the global real estate problem will be solved in the year 2040.
Well, the computer didn’t quite say that. What it said was the world will end in the year 2020.
Here, read it for yourself …
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2018/08/13/i-guess-we-can-stop-worrying-about-climate-mit-says-computer-predicts-end-of-world-in-2040/
Er, make that 2040.
For the globalists if Trump wins reelection in 2020 the world will end.
From the sounds of the screaming you would think their world already ended.
e.g., TEOTWAWKI
“Marketers, vendors and agents are rushing to bring their sales campaigns forward rather than wait for September or October, spooked by reports of falling property values and auction clearance rates hovering at little more than 50 per cent.
Sorry, marketers, vendors and agents, but your disinformation sales campaign isn’t going to sell overpriced shacks to spooked buyers who can see with their own eyes that the bubble is bursting.
cover your shorts B@tchez!
This is shaping up to be the big test, the spring selling season. Inventory is already piling up.
Fred Sanford - This is the big one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK9HXu9g5qA
Oh dear….
https://www.scmp.com/property/international/article/2159419/uk-house-prices-are-longest-losing-streak-financial-crisis
doom and gloom randy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnEuuTUY7qY
Scam currency Bitcoin plunges closer to its intrinsic value: zero.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/cryptocurrency/btcusd
Bitcoin failed to hold the critical 6,000 resistance. Oh dear…it’s almost like the Everything Bubble is bursting, but Yellen the Felon assured us there would be no new financial crisis “in our lifetime”…has anyone checked Old Yellen’s vitals?
chuck ponzi would be proud
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this scam shows how gullible investors and speculators are.
Poor, poor Alphonso.
Another day, another 5% down on the gradual return to earth of Bitcoin.
Are you ready for 5% yields on 10-year Treasurys? Dimon’s comments are awesome. Except he doesn’t seem to notice the Housing Bubble is tanking again.
Bove: Jamie Dimon ‘knows what he is talking about’ when it comes to danger warnings
- JP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon recently issued two warnings, one about rising bond yields and the other on the Federal Reserve’s balance sheet operation.
- Banking analyst Dick Bove said Dimon is right to be concerned as the demand for money rises at a time when liquidity is contracting.
Richard X. Bove
Published 9:34 AM ET Tue, 7 Aug 2018
Updated 11:47 AM ET Tue, 7 Aug 2018
JP Morgan’s Jamie Dimon says the market is dealing with something it’s never seen before
2:30 PM ET Thu, 2 Aug 2018 | 01:16
In the past ten days Jamie Dimon, JP Morgan Chase’s CEO has highlighted two concerns. First, he is suggesting that the shrinking of the Federal Reserve balance sheet may have negative unintended consequences. Second, he is suggesting that the yield on the 10-year Treasury is likely to reach 5 percent much sooner than is generally assumed to be the case.
His views are important since his bank is at the nerve center of money flows and its costs. Thus, investors should pay great attention to what he says. I do not pretend to know what Mr. Dimon’s thought process is but it is possible to provide some explanation as to why he could be right in both cases.
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“Except he doesn’t seem to notice the Housing Bubble is tanking again.”
Does Jamie Dimon’s troubled housing get unloaded at par?
lather, rinse, repeat
Have you notice these big banks and brokerage houses keep coming out with bad news?
It is part of their game. They try to get retail to short the market and then force them to cover. It happens over and over again.
‘She adds that credit rating is more important than income verification anyway. ‘If someone has a high credit rating, it shouldn’t matter what their income is. If they fight and scrap for under-the-table money to pay their bills on time, then it should be of no interest to the insurance company where the money comes from. And besides, involving CRA opens more people up to audit.’
Golly, a little more open criminality than we are used to from Canada.
I understand what she’s getting at though. When I bring in new renters I’d rather have somebody with good credit who always pays their bills on time than somebody with mediocre credit who can show me a pay stub indicating that they should be able to pay.
I’ve had both and the one with good credit has proven to be reliable and take much better care of the property. And it’s not my job to police how they make their money as long as I’m not knowingly housing a criminal enterprise or meth lab.
Tax dodger yourself, eh?
I’d wager that I’ve paid more in taxes in the past 10-15 years than 99% of the posters here.
When you live paycheck to paycheck, or worse, on welfare, I can understand how people become so disgruntled by the RE party going on around them and begin to root for the failure of others who are better off financially.
I’d wager that I’ve paid more in taxes in the past 10-15 years than 99% of the posters here.
Even if that’s true, it doesn’t address the question…and the immediate subject change to losers jealous of winners is telling. We saw that a lot here…in about 2007-8.
Pompus poser.
Oh dear….
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-13/report-signals-uk-housing-bubble-bust-home-values-fell-fifth-straight-month
Zillow lowered my area’s break even horizon to 3.3 yrs from 3.8
Helps their new flipping biz
Oh dear…it seems that bursting housing bubbles are contagious….
https://www.scmp.com/property/international/article/2159560/housing-market-auckland-could-see-similar-price-drops
“Mounting personal debt burdens” are curtailing Chinese consumers’ ability and willingness to make big-ticket purchases…but surely this phenononon will be contained to China, since those relentlessly upbeat “analysts” on all the financial media channels assure me Everything is Awesome - buy moar stawks!
(Consumer spending is 70% of U.S. economic “growth” — what happens when the debt donkeys [and growing numbers of FBs] get tapped out?)
https://www.scmp.com/business/companies/article/2159675/chinas-retail-sales-data-shows-consumers-not-offsetting-us-trade
The average overpriced shack in Spokane shed $10K during July. These outliers are really starting to proliferate across the map.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/aug/10/average-housing-prices-in-spokane-county-drop-1000/
Another “unexpected” default in China. As in, no one saw it coming.
Sounds familiar, somehow.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-14/an-unexpected-default-in-china-shakes-confidence-in-lgfvs
I’m new to this site and it’s been a useful place to visit to see counterpoints to all of the cheerleading that the MSM and REA’s continually push out regarding the real estate market.
What I’m having a little harder time grasping is the comment section. Is everybody here rooting for a crash so that they can buy into the RE market at a discount? Or is it just rooting for people to lose $$, families to suffer and for the economy to tank out of sheer jealousy and petulance?
they didnt buy in the last crash so why would this time be different?
Remember my good friend….. Nothing accelerates the economy and creates jobs like falling prices to dramatically lower and more affordable levels. Nothing.
Parker, CO Housing Prices Crater 6% YOY As Housing Recovery Begins
https://www.movoto.com/parker-co/market-trends/
Is that what happened between 2007 and 2010? Weird, it looked like the opposite.
You must be looking at incorrect information.
Beginning in about 2007, housing collapse, financial crisis and subsequent great recession. That’s the information I’m looking at.
I’m still renting. So a housing crash could help me buy a modest home at a great price. With a traditional mortgage I could lock in a very affordable payment. And have money left over for the inevitable repair bills, etc.
Get your ducks in a row now so that you’re ready with 20% cash down, good income, low debt and a solid credit score when the opportunity presents itself.
Best of luck to you, I hope that you’re able to find just what you’re looking for, and soon.
I think we need to show people how dumb they are by having a crash. Its a lifestyle of stupid.
Looking for a used car everybody has a big 4wd maxxed out suv, try parking that in NYC. Most parking garages are charging you up to DOUBLE to park yup $60 for a couple of hours because they are so tall they can only be parked on the first level…premium parking….Then they all have 100K miles for $10,000+
Its amazing how much stuff people have and they need the 4bedroom house for 2 people to fill it. I think a lot of millennial are forced to downsize, what do you need bookcases full of books records cd’s nick knacks off the home shopping network? big tube tv’s etc all this means less room needed to live I am happy for the digital revolution, we have much more room to actually live in then say 5 years ago.
Here in Long Island city this is construction ground zero the most apartments built in all of america all luxury , its just nuts when will it end? How long will people spend $3000 for a 1 bedroom?
https://newyorkyimby.com/neighborhoods/long-island-citypage/2/
The subways are all over capacity, going into Manhattan, but if you reverse commute to say Forest Hills or Kew garden at 8 am its almost Empty…no need to be crushed like sardines.
Housing used to b e cheap, affordable and even in trailer parks not a lot of crime, but all that has changed you need to be dealing drugs to pay the rent, or here illegally rent out a basement “apartment” to pay the $925,000 mortgage…….
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/5011-39th-Pl_Long-Island-City_NY_11104_M44047-25768
I like to have space, a 4×4 truck, dogs, guns, big TV’s, boats, swimming pools, vacations, ect.
Maybe the lifestyle that I enjoy isn’t for everybody but I wouldn’t trade it for life in a cramped apartment in the city. No way. That said, I don’t begrudge those who choose a simpler lifestyle with less trappings and I certainly don’t root for them to go broke or suffer. To each their own.
Thats fine but the cost to me is out of this world….. Like i said once everything is digital, those formerly cramped apartments are really good to live in.
The general consensus on this blog is what is your monthly cost to live?
can you afford it of you are unemployed for a year or wife/GF/you get sick and cant work fully? Cutting expenses live below your means is really not that hard. the old way parents paid off their houses to afford all those luxuries in life. Not have to worry about car truck boat credit card payments each month
So we root for those up to their eyeballs in debt, they need a hard lesson every so often. and a lot of people are here with cash to pick up the pieces.
Enjoying living in a cramped apartment because everything is digital? I don’t follow. Maybe you enjoy sitting in an apartment playing video games and Facebooking or something I guess. That’s not my thing.
I appreciate the digital age because it’s made things easier to do, like selling a house 6 states away without having to be there. Aside from that, I enjoy my toys, house and hobbies. I love being able to buy a $70,000 boat without having to write a check for $70k. I enjoy driving a $50,000 truck without having to write a check for $50k.
If you want to save money for 65 years just so you can pay cash for a boat once you’re too old to even ride in it without crapping in your depends that’s fine as well. Myself, I’ll borrow the money, pay the interest and enjoy my life as I see fit. I fail to see the harm in it.
as long as you dont file for bankruptcy and stick the bill to the rest of us…its all good
what i said is when you get rid of the psychical stuff in your life books records cd’s video tapes huge tube tv cabinets full of crap, you would be amazed at how much room you actually have.
“Myself, I’ll borrow the money, pay the interest and enjoy my life as I see fit. I fail to see the harm in it.”
I’ve never paid compounded interest on a loan. Recreational and boat loans are simple interest and mortgages only compound if you fail to pay the full amount each month.
The point remains: you can’t earn (compound) interest if you are paying it. I’m glad people like you exist though, because without you Mr. Banker and I wouldn’t be able to live such an easy life.
“Maybe the lifestyle that I enjoy isn’t for everybody…”
“Pardon me… would you have any Grey Poupon?
Enjoying the outdoors, fishing, hunting, boating, ect. Hardly a grey poupon type. Just not a big city apartment dweller.
It’s a lot harder to enjoy the outdoors when you have to put in extra work in the form of your life’s time to pay for toys. You can enjoy gifts of the outdoor without all the ancillary expenses (and debt) if you chose to. Time is the most valuable asset, don’t squander it paying for things that can’t bring you joy.
“An ounce of gold can’t buy an ounce of time.” - Chinese proverb
Is everybody here rooting for…
We’ve watched and studied the biggest expansion of credit in human history here for over a decade. It’s more than being a Housing Bubble of gigantic proportions globally, it has been a bubble in all things remotely related; land, energy, raw materials, machinery, cars, stocks, food, bankers, corrupt politicians & etc.
When the price of your food doubles and the price of transportation does the same, when honest cash buyers cannot compete with the hordes of degenerate borrowers for housing, when savings earn no interest and you haven’t really had a raise in 20 years, some of us simply want to see the madness end.
For God and Country.
You either join the party or sit back and be a wallflower. I’ve won some in RE and I’ve lost 1 pretty bad, but I’ve worked hard, played hard and enjoyed the heck out of the last 15 years of my life. And I intend to enjoy the next 15 as well.
It sounds like you’ve been angrily watching and studying this credit expansion instead of enjoying your life. If you haven’t had a raise in 20 years that is your own fault. You’re either getting paid all that your worth or you just don’t have the motivation or ability to better yourself.
I can assure you that for most people, being able to lose $100k without it changing your lifestyle drastically is much more enjoyable than grinding paycheck to paycheck, never getting ahead and being angry at those who you feel are holding you back.
I’ve no complaints about having made enough money, more than I needed. However, the average American has not seen a real raise in 20 years while the cost of necessities has climbed drastically.
Due to the horde of degenerate debt addicts.
Is everybody here rooting for a crash so that they can buy into the RE market at a discount? Or is it just rooting for people to lose $$, families to suffer and for the economy to tank out of sheer jealousy and petulance?
Speaking for myself, I probably will have to buy eventually and do hope to get a decent price. But not to get a better spot on the “property ladder”…just to avoid being a slave.
But the bigger problem is that the entire country is being enslaved…which will end in violence. I would love to see that be avoided. The sooner we crash (a real crash where people learn that you can’t get rich through debt, not the aborted 2008 version), the better the odds are of surviving. I don’t believe it can be avoided forever.
But you can get rich through debt. If you manage other peoples money properly you can generate far more wealth than you can punching a clock for some other entrepreneur.
You’ll always be “a slave” to some extent unless you figure out a way to build enough wealth that you no longer have to worry about it. You’ll either pay rent, or a mortgage, or property taxes and insurance on a home that’s paid off. A 50% correction in home prices will do almost nothing good for you aside from offer you the opportunity to secure a lower monthly mortgage if you’re ready to buy.
The only people who aren’t a slave to some extent are the homeless and those who live in 3rd world countries where their sole purpose in life is food, water and shelter.
If I didn’t know better I’d think that a lot of commenters here are rallying for Socialism. Waiting for Robin Hood to rob from the rich and give to the poor. That sounds like a pretty miserable way to go through life.
There’s already been a wealth transfer. Dumb as a box of rocks or just a $hit disturber.
But you can get rich through debt. If you manage other peoples money properly you can generate far more wealth than you can punching a clock for some other entrepreneur.
You’ll always be “a slave” to some extent unless you figure out a way to build enough wealth that you no longer have to worry about it. You’ll either pay rent, or a mortgage, or property taxes and insurance on a home that’s paid off. A 50% correction in home prices will do almost nothing good for you aside from offer you the opportunity to secure a lower monthly mortgage if you’re ready to buy.
The only people who aren’t a slave to some extent are the homeless and those who live in 3rd world countries where their sole purpose in life is food, water and shelter.
If I didn’t know better I’d think that a lot of commenters here are rallying for Socialism. Waiting for Robin Hood to rob from the rich and give to the poor. That sounds like a pretty miserable way to go through life.
Is anybody who visits this site and doesn’t get out the torches and pitchforks to attack homeowners and real estate investors automatically a troll?
Is anybody who visits this site and doesn’t get out the torches and pitchforks to attack homeowners and real estate investors automatically a troll?
Maybe not. But I don’t have much to say to people who prefer surfing the Fed cycle to actually producing something. They may be nice people as individuals but as a group they are going to cause a lot of pain for everyone.
Maybe not. But I don’t have much to say to people who prefer surfing the Fed cycle to actually producing something. They may be nice people as individuals but as a group they are going to cause a lot of pain for everyone.
+1
+1, Carl increases the S/N ratio here, SWFL decreases it
Don’t feed the troll
Ford Credit claimed that Reagor-Dykes engaged in fraud known as “check kiting”.
This is how it worked: vehicles financed by Ford Credit were sold to customers, and Reagor-Dykes would keep the money without reporting the sale to Ford. By not immediately reporting the transaction, the fraudulent company would not have to reimburse Ford immediately. In a July audit, Ford lawyers discovered “an average discrepancy of 55 days” on about 150 vehicle sales. Ford’s policy is only seven days. The documents also said, “Ford Credit has also determined that Debtors [Reagor-Dykes] double-floored at least 85 vehicles.”
“Double-floored means that one dealership took possession of a new vehicle and requested financing from Ford Credit. Then, having received financing from Ford, the same vehicle was transferred to another dealership. The second dealership would then apply for financing on the same vehicle,” said NBC Amarillo.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-13/ford-reveals-one-largest-floor-plan-financing-frauds-history-us
Let her rip Jonesy.
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Checked in at the SeattleClownHouse this morning. Clown is still reporting a housing ’shortage’.