We Overbuilt, And Everyone Got Burned
A report from Better Dwelling in Canada. “Toronto has a whole lot of real estate development going on. Rider Levett Bucknall (RLB), a large real estate consulting firm, released their quarterly crane index. The index puts Toronto at the top of the high-rise construction pile in North America. Actually, Toronto is beats the next closest city by a huge margin… that’s not always a good thing. Topping the list on the RLB crane index is Toronto, Seattle, and Los Angeles – in that order. Toronto had 97 construction cranes at the end of Q2 2018, up 9 cranes from the previous quarter. Seattle had 65 cranes in Q2, up 20 from the previous quarter. Los Angeles had 36 cranes at the end of Q2, the same number from the previous quarter. Yes, Toronto has almost over 40% more cranes than the next city on the list.”
“The high crane count could continue to rise as well, since another 400 projects are proposed. Not a huge surprise for everyone that knows Toronto is at record levels of construction. The count confirms a lot of supply will hit the market relatively soon, with even more supply to come. The massive influx of supply is likely to place downward pressure on prices, wiping out significant home equity. No surprise one of the world’s largest banks calls Toronto the ‘world’s largest real estate bubble.’”
The Ottawa Business Journal in Canada. “Never afraid to express his opinions, Brad Lamb is characteristically blunt in his assessment of his latest condo-building exercise in Ottawa. ‘The last five years here were not fun,’ said the well-known Toronto real estate agent and developer. “It wasn’t fun for my office, it wasn’t fun for me.’”
“The firm has just one finished project, the 240-suite Gotham highrise on Lyon Street in Centretown. Another planned 350-unit condo on Bronson Avenue south of Lyon never came to fruition. Developers didn’t help themselves, he added, by going on a building spree that flooded the market with new inventory just as potential buyers started tightening their purse-strings.”
“‘We overbuilt, and everyone got burned, from Claridge to Lamb to Urban Capital to all the other guys,’ he said. ‘It’s a small enough real estate condo economy, 500 units is tons of money. Developers … are very faddy. Everyone rushes to a city and builds condos and then we f*** ourselves by overbuilding. You couldn’t sell anything for years.’”
The South China Morning Post. “China Energy Finance Corporation (CEFC), the biggest Chinese investor in the Czech Republic, will be bailed out from its debt-fuelled shopping spree in Europe with a haircut, the first of a trio of mainland asset buyers that are being forced into holding fire sales for their acquisitions. CEFC is negotiating to sell its Czech portfolio of luxury hotels, a football club, a brewery and a broadcaster to Chinese state conglomerate Citic Group for a combined 6.7 billion yuan (US$980 million), a 44 per cent discount to the €1.5 billion (US$1.75 billion) valuation on CEFC Europe’s books as of May, according to two people familiar with the offer.”
“CEFC, established in 2002 by Chinese oligarch Ye Jianming, ‘had spent wildly,’ buying assets ‘without any obvious strategic rationale,’ said Kaiyuan Capital’s managing director Brock Silvers, in Shanghai. ‘That is why Beijing had to forcefully intervene, not purely for economic reasons, but for political ones as well.’”
“Shanghai-based CEFC is not alone. Anbang Group and HNA Group, two of China’s most aggressive asset buyers of the past three years, are also being put through the wringer by regulators over concerns about the mountain of debt that has been used to fund their shopping.”
The Courier Mail on Australia. “Brisbane will lead unit supply growth across the major capitals — with a massive 18.4 per cent surge in apartment numbers, new research has found. The figures from the latest settlement risk analysis by CoreLogic cover a two-year period, during which Brisbane was expected to see a potential 36,057 more units off a base of 196,414 current apartments. In contrast, Greater Sydney was expected to see supply grow by 9.3 per cent with Greater Melbourne to push 11.5 per cent.”
“The sheer volume of supply yet to be completed has troubled some experts given a lot of stock was yet to settle. ‘We’re already seeing stories of people finding it difficult to settle, with valuations not coming in at contract price,’ Mr Kusher said, ‘and a lot of properties are owned by investors so trying to rent them out would be quite difficult as well.’”
“Riskwise chief executive Doron Peleg expects tough times ahead for developers. His concern was that the number was too big for the market to absorb in just two years. ‘Currently what we see is prices of off-the-plan property going down by 10 to 20 per cent, a reduction in dwelling commencements, and it will take two to three years until the properties will be absorbed into the market.’”
From Domain News in Australia. “More residential properties are selling for prices at or below their agent-quoted guide price. Jake Rowe, of Rowe Partners Real Estate, said most properties were selling for about their price quote or not a lot more. ‘If you go back even just six months ago, we were getting prices 20 per cent above our price guides,’ he said.”
“Mr Rowe said it was better for those who traded up to upgrade their housing in a softer market because the savings were larger in the dearer price brackets they wanted to buy in to. ‘If you are looking at a $4 million house, it might now be worth $3.5 million,’ he said. ‘Even if you cop a $100,000 loss on your place at $2 million, then it is worth the trade up to make the gain on the next property.’”
From ABC News in Australia. “If you drive out to Sydney’s Olympic Park you’ll find a whole lot of scaffolding and cranes putting together another Meriton high-density apartment block. ‘The Retreat’ will eventually house more than 1,000 apartments across four different building phases. The first residents started moving into the twin towers of the Aura building this month. But it’s likely they’ll be without many neighbours for a while.”
“Meriton has only committed to half of the development so far, while it waits to see whether demand recovers. Australia is in the midst of an apartment development slowdown. Real estate firm CBRE is selling apartments off the plan for more than 300 developments around Australia. Those presales are key to securing the funding developers need to kickstart their projects.”
“‘Developers, due to the banking regulations, rely on presales to be able to finance their projects,’ said CBRE chairman of residential, Justin Brown. ‘Unless you have exceptional attributes it is very difficult to get those presales of hundreds of apartments that are required.’ Mr Brown says developers are having to change the mould. ‘There’s been a lot of adjustments. Developers are stalling projects, their next stages aren’t coming on. You see all sorts of offerings, whether it’s a reduced price, a rebate on stamp duty or a rental guarantee.’”
‘Yes, Toronto has almost over 40% more cranes than the next city on the list’
And the three biggest cities in Australia have more cranes than all of north America combined.
“And the three biggest cities in Australia have more cranes than all of north America combined”
Some trivia about Australia and cranes and cities …
“Three charts on: crane-spotting, a way to tell which Australian cities are growing and where”
https://theconversation.com/three-charts-on-crane-spotting-a-way-to-tell-which-australian-cities-are-growing-and-where-76776
Some more crane trivia …
“The US Cities with the Most Active Tower Cranes — Construction Junkie”
https://www.constructionjunkie.com/blog/2018/7/23/the-us-cities-with-the-most-active-tower-cranes
They were definitely busy building airboxes high in the Brisbane sky when I was there in May.
Toronto wins on sheer volume but wow Portland (the 26th “most populous” city in the US) in the top 5 wins via “one of these things is not like the others.”
now that the top in Ben is posting like a banshee
Now that housing prices are plunging Ben is posting like a banshee
Let’s be precise Rip.
Ben must be like Lucy at the chocolate factory trying to keep up with the sheer volume of reporting - local, national, and international - regarding the bursting housing bubble. Even the MSM, touts and cheerleaders for their corporate masters, has seen the truth percolating up through the “Everything is Awesome! propaganda as housing inventories rise, prices drop, and a perceptible shift in market (buyer) sentiment from FOMO to just fear and caution have kicked in.
If 2006 is anything to go by, the deluge of bursting-bubble reports (accompanied by tear-jerking media sob stories from FB “victims”) is going to reach tsunami proportions as Housing Bubble 2.0 goes the way of its predecessor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQ58I53mjk
The MSM is orgasmic over this….and just in time for the November election. And the reporting is now “hey man we need a price correction, bubbles are bad, you know?” Which is weird because in 2031, 2014, 2015 and 2016 it was all HOORAY FOR EXPENSIVE HOUSES!!
I wonder what changed in 2016 to make the MSM change its coverage? Anyone have any ideas?
Answer: Mortgage crime spreading like Ebola.
Pleasanton, CA Housing Prices Crater 20% YOY As Sellers Beg For Offers
https://www.movoto.com/pleasanton-ca/market-trends/
‘a 44 per cent discount to the €1.5 billion (US$1.75 billion) valuation on CEFC Europe’s books as of May’
Gone to money heaven.
‘the latest settlement risk analysis’
Settlement risk is when a buyer for a pre-construction condo (off-plan apartment in Australian) can’t or won’t “settle” when it’s finished. We’ve seen a bunch of FB Chinese in this situation.
‘Currently what we see is prices of off-the-plan property going down by 10 to 20 per cent’
So they don’t get a loan until it’s finished. If the value is less than what they agreed to, the buyers has to come up with the money. Often they can’t or just walk away and say “find me in China and sue me”. So a whole bunch of these airboxes are booked as sold but they aren’t.
Palm Shores, FL Housing Prices Crater 16% YOY As The Bottom Drops Out Of Vacation/Retirement Housing Market
https://www.movoto.com/palm-shores-fl/market-trends/
‘Toronto Sees New Condo Sales Fall Over 52%, Inventory Spikes Over 63%’
Condos are always a leading indicator that the Wile E. Coyote moment approacheth for the housing bubble writ large.
“‘We overbuilt, and everyone got burned, from Claridge to Lamb to Urban Capital to all the other guys,’ he said.
I don’t understand…how, with all these crack REIC “analysts” at their disposal, did all the developers not understand that overbuilding = glut = price drops = getting burned?
CEFC is negotiating to sell its Czech portfolio of luxury hotels, a football club, a brewery and a broadcaster to Chinese state conglomerate Citic Group for a combined 6.7 billion yuan (US$980 million), a 44 per cent discount to the €1.5 billion (US$1.75 billion) valuation on CEFC Europe’s books as of May, according to two people familiar with the offer.”
Gosh, I sure hope this is an isolated case of corporate malfeasance that somehow slipped past those ever-vigilant Chinese regulators that ABQ Dan assures us are overseeing China’s centrally-planned economic expansion. Cuz if a bunch of the Chinese mega-speculators who went hog wild with their acquisition sprees in Europe, Australia, and North America were suddenly forced to liquidate assets at firesale prices…my lands, just think of what that would do to our real estate asset bubbles!
Another indicator that Housing Bubble 2.0 has popped:
AlbuquerqueDan’s redisappearance…
(He tends to show up when bulls are running and to vanish when the sky is falling)
He’s a Buy High and Sell Low kinda guy most likely.
Two RE observations this week.
1. Heard second hand from someone close to me that a realtor in California is prepping they’re business for a downturn.
2. Talked to a party flipping a house here in California. They say the market took a massive turn in the early summer and are looking to close their latest flip ASAP to get out before things go sideways.
I’m starting to think our landlords missed the last best chance to cash out.
Oh, so you thought Chinese “development aid” came with no strings attached? Think again.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinas-silk-road-project-runs-debt-jam-042500476.html
China’s massive and expanding “Belt and Road” trade infrastructure project is running into speed bumps as some countries begin to grumble about being buried under Chinese debt.
First announced in 2013 by President Xi Jinping, the initiative also known as the “new Silk Road” envisions the construction of railways, roads and ports across the globe, with Beijing providing billions of dollars in loans to many countries.
Five years on, Xi has found himself defending his treasured idea as concerns grow that China is setting up debt traps in countries which may lack the means to pay back the Asian giant.
r u guys happy people r suffering?
Of course. Their pain, my gain.
Not happy, but also not sad. I’ve scrimped and saved and lived within my means. I’m not going to shed a tear for those who got buried under their debt living large.
scrimpers like you dont create jobs or support the economy. You are afraid to take risk so u settle for sh@tty yileds on cd’s. CONSUME!
70% of the economy is from buying stuff.
Not happy, but also not sad. I’ve scrimped and saved and lived within my means. I’m not going to shed a tear for those who got buried under their debt living large
+1
I’ll be happy if housing prices do drop significantly, and I can afford to buy a modest home to live in, with a fixed rate mortgage.
“r u guys happy people r suffering?”
The connection between pleasure and pain is leveraged real estate.
Getting to live in a house for nine years without paying a cent doesn’t meet my definition of “suffering”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTHdLwvEpFc
More like theft………….
I don’t have any contempt for this person. If a company can’t keep track of it’s assets and doesn’t know that a house has gone missing for 9 years, they deserve to have squatters. I’m actually happy for this family. It seems like she saved a lot of money.
She lived rent free for years…but then couldn’t come up with $7500 to buy the place?!
Indeed. I was wondering why a Baptist minister didn’t show-up and buy the place for her?
I’ve been suffering from inflation and high asset prices…if they didn’t sell now, it’s just greed, and hopefully for their sake (and their children) they learn the lesson they need to.
Cupertino, CA Housing Prices Crater 7% YOY As Bay Area Market Implodes Under The Weight Of Rampant Mortgage Fraud
https://www.movoto.com/cupertino-ca/market-trends/
there is a sh@tload of equity waiting in the wings. It could power the DOW to 50K.
HELOC magic!
Sponge off of your house; Allow your house to support a lifestyle you could only dream of.
The dotted line is patiently waiting.
this is frickn awesome isnt it? its like your playing with house money. MAGA!
A Modern Miracle!
Money for nuthin’. Checks for free.
I think the top is in, I was a frequent visitor to this site 10 years ago. I have since bought a house and watched it double in value, which is nice but in no way sustainable. I expect prices to fall too many headwinds. Even the go-go real estate radio shows are getting cautious. Some do remember the last crash
Some do remember the last crash
Which is why I think this cycle will be faster. We haven’t learned our lesson but we’ve learned to move more quickly.
Well put. The RE bubble has conditioned many people to be speculators; behavior that, once engrained, transcends housing into other areas of economic life.
San Francisco, CA Housing Prices Crater 13% YOY As Banks Choke On Toxic California Mortgages
https://www.zillow.com/san-francisco-ca-94109/home-values/
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Suppose you invested your life’s savings in a cryptocurrency, only to find out that it doesn’t even exist!
Venezuela’s new cryptocurrency doesn’t seem to exist
Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro claims that sales of the petro, the supposedly oil-reserve-backed national cryptocurrency he launched in February, have already raised $3.3 billion, and that the coin is being used to pay for imports. But an investigation by Reuters has found no evidence to back those claims—or that the petro is even a functional cryptocurrency.
Coming up empty: Reuters spent four months speaking with experts on cryptocurrencies and oil-field valuation, visiting oil reserve sites in Venezuela, and analyzing blockchain transactions. It found that the petro is not being sold on any exchange, and no shops accept it. Records on the NEM blockchain, which was supposed to host the token, indicate that it has not been issued.
https://www.technologyreview.com/the-download/611975/venezuelas-new-cryptocurrency-doesnt-seem-to-exist/
That’s amazing, but not surprising. Thx for the link, I also read the entire Reuters article.
Did your bond HODLings get burned in the emerging market debt conflagration?
The Financial Times
Emerging markets
Argentina turmoil batters big names in bond market
Franklin Templeton loses $1.2bn as investors fear new exposure
Now that the top is in time to discuss how far down it goes.
With less derivative action I’m thinking 12-20% in an endless drip.
My hood down 12% max as the swamp has defeated trump.