Bits Bucket And Craigslist Finds For November 19, 2006
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
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From Naples, FL:
Joe Ballarino, a Realtor with Amerivest, said except for specific instances, home prices are going “sideways” and he expects them to continue doing so.
Market generalizations are usually off base, he said.
“I am on a kick of discrediting market averages,” Ballarino said. “Pricing is so localized, each property has to be valued separately.”
His view of the market is that buyers already are beginning to come back.
“I think (studies) are off the mark,” he said. “At most I can see prices going down maybe 5 percent in some cases but I don’t see (a) 14 percent (decline) — not in the overall market.”
McIntosh thinks that what most people consider the worst-case scenario isn’t really the worst-case scenario at all.
“There is plenty of room for the market to worsen and my real concern is that we are heading for a worst-case scenario that is worse than we think,” he said.
“We have too darn many condos just like we have too darn many cars,” he said. “Southwest Florida appreciated at a rate equal to or greater than everyone else in the country so it is perfectly natural to assume that when it goes down, it will be the same. We have more to give back.”
“I am on a kick of discrediting market averages,” Ballarino said. “Pricing is so localized, each property has to be valued separately.”
There is no national housing bubble. But some appraisals are a bit fraudy.
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>“I am on a kick of discrediting market averages,” Ballarino said. “Pricing is so localized, each property has to be valued separately.”
The markets will soon humble this fool into some respect.
Probably not. He is to much of a fool.
Some new videos:
http://housingcrashvideos.blogspot.com/
The one from the UK is very well done.
Well done, but long in the teeth — predates the UK reflation…
Well researched and documented housing bubble article from the guys at safehaven: http://www.safehaven.com/article-6329.htm
A summary you can use to persuade your influence group. One reader said it was ‘mandatory reading’ another immediately printed it out and placed it in his glove box.
(Caution: Lengthy but worth it)
That piece is a beautiful encapsulation of the ongoing discussion on this blog. Maybe Ben Jones and Gary Shilling should team up and write a book.
I have a bit of back-of-the-envelope analysis to add based on Chart 13 — Residential Construction as a % of GDP — which ought to lay to rest the bull (bullsh!t?) case that the construction downturn has or is about to bottom out. My apologies for any estimation errors due to misreading of the charts; anyone who wants should feel free to look up the actual numbers on which to base a more precise estimate, but I don’t think the qualitative conclusions would change much. I also took the liberty of throwing out some guesses for the denouement of the current construction downturn (indicated by ?).
I drew on one additional data source, which is the NBER dating of recessions:
http://nber.org/cycles/cyclesmain.html
I use the following abbreviations below:
P = peak year of construction as % of GDP (peak % level in parens)
T = trough year of construction as % of GDP (trough % level in parens)
D = depth of construction downturn as % of GDP
E = length of preceding construction expansion
R = length of ensuing construction recession
N = dates of next subsequent GDP recession
P 1964 (5.5%)
T 1967 (3.5%)
D 2%
E 4 years
R 3 years
N 12/69-11/70
P 1973 (5.8%)
T 1975 (3.7%)
D 2.1%
E 6 years
R 2 years
N 11/73-3/75
P 1978 (5.7%)
T 1982 (3.2%)
D 2.5%
E 3 years
R 4 years
N 1/80-7/80, 7/81-11/82
P 1987 (5.0%)
T 1991 (3.3%)
D 1.7%
E 5
R 4
N 7/90-3/91
P 2005 (6.3%)
T 2009? (3.4%?)
D 2.9%?
E 14!!!
R 4???
N ???
Conclusions:
1) The periods of the three most recent residential construction recessions overlapped with GDP recessions.
2) The 2005 peak of residential construction as a % of GDP was the highest since 1960 — 6.3% versus the next highest level of 5.8% in 1973.
3) The recent residential construction expansion (aka housing bubble) was the longest in duration — 14 years versus six years for the next longest period (1967-1973).
4) Previous residential construction recessions bottomed out at 3.4% of GDP on average. This time it would take a drop of 2.9% in the residential construction share of GDP to get down to the average of the past troughs, and that does not factor in ripple effects (i.e., GDP will likely drop farther due to downstream effects on consumption and employment). And Chart 13 shows the downturn has only just begun.
Nice analysis.
How do you factor in long-term demographics changes? Right as the current residential construction downturn should be leveling out, you have the baby boomers entering retirement age. Will there be enough new household formation to increase residential contruction’s share of GDP?
“How do you factor in long-term demographics changes?”
I basically ignored it. Not that I don’t think it is important, just that I only had about 15 minutes available to conduct my analysis.
However, I believe that a fuller analysis factoring in demographics and the mismatch between 4BR+ SUV houses and a growing population of empty nesters would only work to make the likely size of the correction larger.
You saw my back-of-the-envelope forecast for a 2.9% drop in only the home-construction component of GDP, with a bigger drop when downstream effects are added in. The Fed chair has a much more benign forecast. But I am missing how his forecast meshes with past data. Does he believe that this time is different?
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Bernanke’s Forecast
Fed Chairman Bernanke said that housing weakness could knock 1% off real GDP growth. It did so, 1.12% at annual rates, in the third quarter, after a 0.72% negative effect in the second quarter. That, of course, is what the housing bulls hope will be the bottom of residential construction weakness. They also hope house appreciation will return to a roughly 5% annual rate, enough to keep speculators from bailing out and enough to allow subprime mortgage borrowers to refinance and avoid disastrous mortgage rate-reset shocks.
The housing bulls are hardly prepared for the 5% to 10% peak-to-trough decline in prices that other housing bears and the futures market predict. The futures market indicates that the Case-Shiller Housing price index will decline 7.5% from its June 2006 peak to August 2007. Using median existing single-family house prices nationwide, a somewhat different series, we expect the decline of 4.6% from their October 2005 peaks to September of this year to extend to 18% by the third quarter of 2007 and to nosedive over 25% from the earlier peak to the final trough in the first quarter of 2008.
Chart #10 in the safe haven analysis reflects a 27% drop in price between peak and trough in just 18 months…
Where are the blogs RE balloon floaters now?
TxChic, how long has it been since you’ve been to Clear Lake? They are going condo-crazy. Seven high-rise condo towers are going up.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4345603.html
I wonder how they’d weather the next hurricane to come up Galveston Bay?
“Developers say having high-rise buildings on the lakefront was only a matter of time because land along Florida and California waters is nearly built out.” Don’t forget Hawaii. What a lie, even in Hawaii, there is alot of ocean view land for sale now just sitting. 1/2 acre lots in my subdivision are now asking 112,500 and not selling. Summer 2005 a few sold for 180-190k. Most lot owners paid 19-20k as recently as 2002.
They are doing the same thing to downtown Austin. Ruining it, if you ask me.
For anyone with concerns or questions about where the stock market is headed, just look at these breadth charts: http://stockcharts.com/charts/candleglance.php?NYAD,NYHL,NAAD,NAHL,AMAD,AMHL
The markets are like a five-year-old playing with a book of matches. It’s only a matter of time before the bulls get burned.
It is being suggested that the central banks need to continue raising rates to curb inflation by the G-20: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aSL.kBB5tWqs&refer=home
The only problem is, they have no intention in doing so. At this point they seemed intent on jawboning inflation watching and vigilance while sticking with accomodative monetary policy. In my humble opinion, the following events seem likely at this point:
1. Stocks begin to slide (or crash between now and end of Jan.) after DOWNWARD revision to GDP on Nov. 29
2. US recession becomes clear after Q4 earnings and advanced Q4 GDP in January
3. Fed holds US rates steady, anticipating massive repatriation of US dollars as foreign central banks begin to reduce dollar holdings
4. Dollar weakens all the while, exacerbating the problem of dollar inflows, causing severe inflationary pressures
5. Pacific rim countries begin to suffer as weak dollar hurts import prices to the US
6. Global US-led recession/depression with currency/financial/derivatives crises
Addition/revision to 3.: Fed rates become almost irrelevant as flight from dollar drives bond yields up rapildy with oil and precious metals rising accordingly
How do you know the market has not factored in the GDP revision which will come out November 29th? The bust in the transport component was picked up in some of the media although “not official”.
So, the market factored in a downward revision by hitting new highs?
Based on market insanity the downward revision will be/has been further confirmation of the “soft landing” and support for an interest rate cut earlier rather than later. Rock on DOW. This is of course the bull interpretation which I am not.
The soft landing crowd is making their living on a prediction of 2% GDP, not .9%, as Bloomberg’s column suggested. As soon as the GDP numbers show that their “soft landing” scenario is nonsense, the stock market will react appropriately.
Linear regression forecasting based upon the GDP numbers this year:
Q1 5.6%
Q2 2.6%
Q3 1.6% (prelim.); OR 1.25% (splitting the dif.); .9% (poss.)
Q4 -.73%; OR -1.2%; OR -1.67%!!!!
Anything that suggests Q3 GDP is unchanged or a downward revision also suggests a Q4 recession.
Sellnrun-
I am aware of the GDP numbers and trend which you have posted above. I am just cynical about the market.
I have doubts that the revised GDP number will shock the market. Everyone is aware of the revised number and the forward GDP projections based on the revised number. That being said sentiment may change between now and then and the revision may cause a sell off. That would be great–I have short positions that are in the toilet.
I just don’t believe its realistic and have resigned myself to taking a loss on my December Puts.
I hope they come through for you. I’ve been patiently waiting for my short sales to come through.
How do you know the market has not factored in the GDP revision which will come out November 29th? The bust in the transport component was picked up in some of the media although “not official”.
Wow. How did I get a double post with exactly the same time stamp?
Hi Fellow: Can someone explain to me.
1. What is stock option ?
2. What is “back dated” stock option and why this practice is so controversial?
Thanks.
Before anyone slams you for not googling this question:
1.) A stock option is the right to purchase (a call option) or sell (a put option) a stock at a given price (the strike price) within some timeframe in the future.
For example, let’s say the spot price is $5, and you buy a call option with a strike price of $10, and the price of the stock goes to $20, you exercise the option buing the stock at $10 and immediately resell the shares at $20 pocketing a $10 profit.
Options are purchased at a small cost compared to the value of the underlying stock. At the end of the option period, the option expires and the money paid to purchse the option is lost. Options can be used as a hedge against price volitility, or as a pure speculative vehicle.
2.) Backdating options is cheating because if you know what current price is (the spot price) you can just backdate the option to create a favorable spread between some earlier spot price and the strike price without incurring any real risk. It is essentially a way of giving a bonus for which the beneficiary would only be liable for capital gains tax, not income tax.
Corrections welcome.
“you can just backdate the option to create a favorable spread between some earlier spot price and the strike price without incurring any real risk.”
Call options — the kind normally used to reward top management against a backdrop of ever-higher share prices — are excercised at a value of
(# optioned shares) X max(current share price - strike price, 0).
When top managers are granted options, the strike price is determined by the value of the company stock when the options are granted. Thus the value of option grants can be maximized by given the accounting department carte blanche to search for the date in the recent past when the stock price (”spot price”) was lowest. And not many observers would instantly recognize this as a complicated form of multi-million-dollar corporate theft.
OK Thanks for the feed back.
Where these option shares come from?
Do they come form company’s treasury shares?
Does it mean that these options shares are going to dilute floating shares and common share holder will suffer as a consequence?
“Where these option shares come from?”
– In a sense, options are to corporate wealth as fiat currency is to national wealth — both can be created out of thin air, as it were.
– Historically, one key difference was that money (M3) was reported but the value of option grants was not. (I am unsure where the rules stand on these two reporting requirements at the moment).
– They differ in terms of the way their value responds to corporate or national economic conditions.
A stock option is a contract to purchase a stock at a future date for a certain price (usually the market price of the stock when the option contract is issued). They’re used extensively as incentive-based compensation of executives under the theory that if the stock prices goes up, then senior managers are doing a good job.
For example, say that I was hired as CEO of GM last December. Part of the compensation package was 500,000 stock options. Back then the price of the stock was ~$20/share. Fast forward a year later, and the stock has gone up to ~$40 a share. I exercise the options and pocket $10,000,000 (at cost to the company/shareholders).
Now let’s say that I get greedy and see that back in February the stock price dipped to $10/share (it didn’t, just for illustration). I get together with a few other senior managers (CFO, general counsel, VP Human Resources) and get the paperwork changed on my stock options to reflect a different option date (ie, the one where the stock price was the lowest). This practice is called backdating the option and it is illegal. Now when I go to exercise the options at a future date when the stock price is up to ~$40/share, I pocket $15,000,000 rather than $10,000,000.
This additional $5,000,000 is basically coming out of the shareholders’ pockets without their knowledge or consent, which is why its illegal. Essentially, by backdating the option I’ve increased my income at the expense of the company. At the same time, there’s a good chance that I’ll get away with it because if the stock price has gone up, its likely that my stockholders are happy with me and the performance of the company. Also, $5M is a relatively small amount for a large, publicly traded company, so there’s a good chance that this practice will go undetected if no one is looking for it. But in actuality, it is stealing, just as if I had falsified expense reports for my personal benefit.
The problem with KB Homes and Krantz on his stock options, is they left the date blank when awarding his stock options. He could fill in the date to what ever date he wanted backward, so he could sell the option anytime. There might not be any laws broken by there not being any changing of dates, except this was not disclosed on their books.
David –
You remind me once again that the best type of theft is too complicated for the average J6P to grasp, and also legal…
“What is “back dated” stock option”
It is a felonious CRIME perpetrated by the thieving corporate class as a means to empty the pockets of shareholders. It’s akin to a bank employee entering a database and moving decimal places to their balance.
In the options backdating case, it was a form of embezzlement where top managers moved decimal points to their compensation.
A local observation. I live in a mature “suburb” in NJ just on the other side of the Husdon. Noticed an interesting trend. In the last few years, several houses were bought, renovated and then flipped. However, over the last year, this unsual process has been replaced simply by tear downs where middle class abodes built in the 1920s-1950s and in decent shape are simply tore down and replaced by full lot McMansions. Its now all over the place. Many are actually of good quality. Prices have obviously taken a quantum leap, gradually transforming the landscape from middle / upper middle class to something which is simply unaffordable, even with a $200K income per year. Many of these bonified McMansions are simply sitting empty (drapes and blinds are however installed) and not for sale. Likely bought as investments that are not even put for rent as nobody in their right mind would rent something like that, even if the could afford so. I only belieleved the bubble in my neighborhood will involve acute price runups and revo/flip activities of existing real estate, since it is a mature neighborhood (as old as it gets in terms of suburbs). When I taught it was stopping (because of no more appreciation; late 2005), it is replaced by a building frenzy of new homes and addition to several a few condo tower projects.
Many homes in Northern Virginia are being offered for rent for far less than the carrying costs of buying them. Here’s one being offered for sale for $1 million, for rent for $3,500. Who in their right mind would buy a house in a declining market for $1 million when they could rent it for half the monthly cost? I’ve seen similar deals on other houses, e.g., sell for $700K, rent for $2,500.
http://tinyurl.com/v9p7x
I don’t understand what the sellers are thinking. For the most part, they paid a fraction of what the house is genuinely worth today. Why not just cut the price 100K or whatever and sell while you still can? Instead, they are going to lose money every month relative to the interest they could get on a municipal bond tax free, and lost equity to boot, and worse in real terms.
David B, I just reviewed a prospectus from an apartment REIT where the case was made that a 4 times gross apartment sale (10 times was usually considered safe) with a 10 year hold time would give the buyer a better return ” ROI ” on investment than any other safe 10 year investment. Leverage makes that happen. The REIT in question has gone up 30% this year, so somebody is buying into this
The MSCI Barra REIT index is up 30% this year. The apartment REIT being peddled is merely a “market performer”.
REITs are highly sensitive to interest rates. Equity REITs (as opposed to mortgage REITs) have skyrocketed due to incredibly low long rates even as the FED increased short rates. The other driver has been a huge amount of buyout activity from private equity funds.
REITs are cruisin’ for a bruisin’ as this state of affairs is unlikely to persist. The index yield is now quite low, only around 4%. If you are interested in REITs there are ETFs that track REITS indices. They provide exposure to commercial, retail, office, restaurant, hospitality, public storage, hospitals, warehouses, and other sectors as well as residential. The Vanguard REIT ETF is VNQ but there are others. As yet there are no diversified international REIT ETFs but there are international REIT funds such as Cohen and Steers. They are quite expensive in terms of management fees.
A timely story from The Wall Street Journal online:
Blackstone Is Set to Announce
Takeover Plan for Equity Office
By DENNIS K. BERMAN
November 19, 2006 6:07 p.m.
“Joining an unprecedented rush to remove corporations from the public markets, the real estate arm of private-equity firm The Blackstone Group is set to announce a $20 billion takeover plan for Equity Office Properties Trust, the largest U.S. office-building owner and manager…”
It is popular wisdom that homebuilders can afford to cut their prices whereas individual homeowners cannot. I disagree. The difference is homebuilders are acutely aware of their cost of capital while individual homeowners are dimly aware or not aware at all.
What individual homeowners are aware of is loss aversion. It may take months or years of “throwing $10,000 off a bridge every month” (to borrow from a recent poster) before the cost of not cutting the price sinks in.
“The difference is homebuilders are acutely aware of their cost of capital while individual homeowners are dimly aware or not aware at all.”
Lots of “homeowners” are 100% leveraged. Do you have anything to add about the builders’ level of leverage? (I suspect it is not very low, especially if some of them are raiding the corporate coffers to buy back their own non-appreciating shares…)
“Do you have anything to add about the builders’ level of leverage?”
I haven’t studied the HB’s very closely. My point was that some homeowners seem to forget about their cost of capital. This sometimes causes them to hang on to their house far too long.
If the owners had decided to hold the house forever, renting might (might!) make economic sense. But, like other owners, they are far more likely imagining that the market is having a slight hiccup, and they will sell for their current asking price or more in a year or two. This just displays ignorance of the historical record on real estate corrections.
Las Vegas:
http://tinyurl.com/yex5aa
Los Angels Times
Air war in Vegas won’t stay in Vegas
A battle over new flight paths is pitting city against county and neighborhoods against one another. It’s a taste of what L.A. can expect.
“But the flight path change has outraged residents, many of whom moved into communities northwest of the airport after 2001. Thousands of newcomers argue that they paid a premium to buy within city limits in areas such as Summerlin — one of the West’s largest and fastest-growing master-planned communities — because there was no commercial air traffic. “
Hmm, so how long will it take to reduce the number of houses to a point were supply vs. demand is about evened out? See, houses are different. They are not like cars for instance. Build too many cars? Ok, they’ll sell a little slow for a while but sooner or later they will all sell off. Houses? Hmmm, too many houses/condos? Well, to reduce supply you have to tear a few down unless the population grows to absorb the excess. Then the condo units or houses will be bought - after a while. Oh, and there are problems with tearing them down. A few items to consider: location, type of neighborhood, local economic conditions, etc.
It looks really bad to me at this point. We should have been investing in things that actually produce something. House don’t produce anything. They are not factories or commercial enterprises.
Roidy