Bits Bucket And Craigslist Finds For December 10, 2006
Please post off-topic ideas, links and Craigslist finds here.
Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
Please post off-topic ideas, links and Craigslist finds here.
china is putting on the breaks / bank reserve requirements
(unlike the fed…..)
plus
UK/ Rate rises bite into buy-to-let rental yields
….net yields before tax have plummeted to 3.25%.
http://immobilienblasen.blogspot.com/
have a nice sunday
Everyone seems to be tightening now except for the Fed. But won’t a falling dollar result in further increases in mortgage rates (like the ones implied by the sharp jump in the T-bond yield curve this past Friday)? It seems like the US housing market is toast any way things play out…
MRIS numbers are out.
The main statistic I watch as a leading indicator is “Avg Sale Price as a percentage of Avg List Price”. It’s currently running at 91.67% for Loudoun county, and still going down every month.
Prices falling 20% in Florida http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061129/BUSINESS/611290461
That will happen to the northeast by the spring as inventory levels start climbing again.
From Business Week May 2006 - FBR Analyst:
What markets are likely to show the biggest price gains and declines this year?
We expect the greatest gains in Bakersfield, Calif. (43%), Fort Myers, Fla. (42%), Stockton, Calif. (39%), and Punta Gorda, Fla. (35%);
Crispy, thanks for keeping & sharing all these expert quotes; maybe you should be a reporter. Oh wait, you are way overqualified.
From your post:
Only Fort Myers-Cape Coral took a bigger fall, posting a 44 percent decline in median sales price, from $445,100 to $249,200, the Florida Association of Realtors reported on Tuesday
“Edwards is also making it available at a higher price of $289,500 for those who want to lease with an option to buy within a year.”
Why would a buyer purchase with a lease option when prices are expected to drop? If prices increase, that’s when you exercise an option to buy. Furthermore, why would the seller think he can charge a premium for such a skunk of an offer?
Looks like someone was WRONG!!!!!!
Thanks, Bob, for posting this. It is incredible. Even I am shocked by the numbers.
As an aside.
In another thread, an over-abundance of possesions at too young an age was remarked on. It was speculated that this is one manifestation of the “entitlement mentality”
On a related note.
When the dreadful Columbine school shootings happened there was much media coverage of the boys involved. A listing was made about how ‘good’ the boys had it.
After reading the list, I realized that one of those boys, owned more, and better “stuff” than I did.
I was married and working as an auto mechanic. Driving a 12 yr old used car. He was driving as 3 yr old used BMW. He had more clothes,guns, TV’s, Stereo’s, and “toys” than I did, He was 17, and did not work. I was not jealous, so much as sad. No wonder they went crazy. Nothing to work for, nothing to acheieve. All given to them, by useless parents.
Interesting observation… We, as parents, want to give our kids what we didn’t have and in turn do a huge dis-service. I always remember my parents asking “Do you really need this or do you just want this?” I needed a good answer…
My parents gave me little. But they gave me a lot of love. They paid for all the expensive dentistry (orthodontics), and so on. They did not provide me with a car. In fact, most other teens in my high school (class of 1977 in Fresno) did not have these handouts. The most expensive trip those days in our school was grad night at Disneyland in June 1977. I am aware now that high schools organize ocean cruises. What a spoiled generation the young ‘uns have become (in general).
There are some good young people though. Not all bad. A colleague of mine is only 26, has a house he bought for $400,000 while he was in college in 2000 (in northern California) before the insane price boom. So his house is now zillowed around $650,000. He has a full time software engineering job and a half time software consulting job and works 60 hours per week (at least). He is investing his money in stocks. Not a dumb thing at all for a 26 year old, even though the major indices are probably peaking. He won’t need that money for another 40 years. The United States will be here 40 years from now, no doubt. I’m bullish on America in the long term. I am very afraid in the shor term - it’s going to take a dirty nuke to wake up the sleeping giant. And you can count on that. About 20,000 to 30,000 precious lives will be taken and sacrificed because today’s Americans want to wave the white flag and retreat from the middle east. The Islamo-fascists smell fear and see soft underbellies and they will not stop their drive to kill western civilization. It’s in their Koran.
I recommend you go back to listening to comedian Rush Limbaugh and leave the rest of us out of your fantasy of world domination by the US. That game is over: your side lost. Get over it.
You socialists are so touchy/thin skined. It’s going to be alright can’t you just feel the love all around us?
Lost what??? I tend to agree with the Islamofacist thingy… Do you actually think they have our best interest at heart?? Have you done any traveling lately? The world is pretty complicated to sum it all up with “your side lost” you knucklehead.
Why does everyone asume it will be a dirty bomb,N Korea has already produced the real thing.They could just as easily detonate a real nuke albeit a small one that would kill hundreds of thousands.
You have to ask yourself what these people who claim this really know about military strategy. If you were the adversary and were in the position they are currently in, would you really toss a nuke on the American populus to “wake the sleeping dragon”? I certainly wouldn’t if I were the adversary. That just isn’t in the adversary’s best interest.
I don’t think you guys are going to settle this here and you are wasting my bandwidth.
I lost my cool there with ol techno pud wack. I just hate when someone takes the time to spill their guts then someone “as deep as a puddle” makes such a pathetic statement that doesn’t have anything to do with the frickin subject.
“I’m bullish on America in the long term. I am very afraid in the shor term - it’s going to take a dirty nuke to wake up the sleeping giant. And you can count on that. About 20,000 to 30,000 precious lives will be taken and sacrificed because today’s Americans want to wave the white flag and retreat from the middle east. The Islamo-fascists smell fear and see soft underbellies and they will not stop their drive to kill western civilization. It’s in their Koran.”
You are totally clueless. The “terrorists” are the people occupying the upper levels of our government, military, corporations and media. The CIA created Al-Qaeda and radical Islamic fundamentalism in 1979 to fight the Soviets. 9/11 was in inside job. It couldn’t be clearer. Just watch 9/11: Press for Truth and/or 9/11 Mysteries.
We were lied to about the reasons for the war and the cost. What makes you think we weren’t lied to about 9/11? Ever heard of Operations Northwoods? Do a Google search.
Be careful about assuming the next 20 or 40 years will be like the last 20 or 40. I personally see a set of converging catastrophes (peak oil, climate change, water scarcity, hyperinflation).
Sure the U.S. will still be here. But in what form? We have lost habeus corpus, if you haven’t noticed, as well as posse comitatus. The FEMA detention camps are already built and the door is open to martial law.
Oh my… We started this with the perverted money views of prospective young home buyers of today and end up with peak oil and our government crashing planes into the WTC… Nuff said…
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons
Some of the crackpot conspiracy theories about 9/11 would be entertaining, if they weren’t so pathetically, tragically wrong.
About 20,000 to 30,000 precious lives will be taken and sacrificed because today’s Americans want to wave the white flag and retreat from the middle east. The Islamo-fascists smell fear and see soft underbellies and they will not stop their drive to kill western civilization. It’s in their Koran.
Bill, you are a neo-con’s wet dream - someone who has his entire worldview formed by Faux news, another herd creature readily frightenend and manipulated into going along with whatever “security” measure or ill-considered foreign adventurism Big Brother assures us is necessary.
If you want to reduce your ignorance, instead of exposing it in here, I suggest you (and every American) read the excellent “Imperial Hubris” by ‘Anonomyous,’ a former top-level CIA terrorism analyst. His insights on the root causes Islamic terrorism are enlightening to say the least. Hint: Our “way of life” isn’t why we’re being attacked, though Bush likes to repeat that tripe for the benefit of retards like, um, your neighbors.
George Washington warned the young republic to “avoid needless foreign entanglements.” It’s a warning our Imperial rulers should have listened to.
I’m not conservative. I am an atheist, extremely pro-choice, extremely for civil liberties. I just happen to be an extreme capitalist, extreme hawk and exercise my RKBA. That said, don’t pigeon-hole me in the same line as mainstream Republicans. Capn Credit and Alfred E Newman, who probably looks as dumb as his namesake, pigeonhole me as a church-goer. Techno thinks I like Rush Lobotomy. I don’t.
I can say this: I’ve been in the defense business 21 years. I know what those nuts can do. The majority of Amerricans are fat and lazy and think Islamics will ignore us if we but get out of the Middle East. They won’t ignore is. Islam hates freedom. Islam hates individualism. Let’s talk about Real estate now.
I am a conservative - a true conservative who despises the neo-con cabal using the dim bulb Bush as their wooden dummy. Believe in God, think abortion is murder. Am deeply distrustful of the “monied interests” and predatory capitalists Jefferson and so many other insightful patriots warned us about - especially the mega-bankers and the military-industrial complex. Agree that most Americans are fat and lazy (I’d add ’stupid’) and that Islam is anything but “the religion of peace and tolerance.” Also happen to believe, based on my attempts to educate myself on causes and effects, that “our way of life” is NOT why we’re in the cross-hairs of Mid-East loonies.
Like I said, read “Imperial Hubris.” It might be the most important book you can read, in terms of understanding the nature of the Islamic terrorist threat.
Now, back to real estate.
i agree pv tom
i personally do not have kids but i have several nieces & nephews and some of thes kids are so spoiled it makes me cringe.
lets see, they live in a mcmansion in a very nice suburb of jersey (one with taxes in the 20k a year range) yet the kids go to private school for god knows what a year. they have laptops,ipods,cellphones, play in every sport and travel league possible (incldung expensive horseback lessons)
my brother in law does well but was just recently let go from his cfo position and is currently looking (i hope that works out well) oh i did not mention the benz and new lexus truck as well.
anyway my niece cannot believe the my wife’s family grew up in a house with only 1 bathroom as they all have their own
do not get me wrong if you can swing it, spoli your kids if it makes you happy just don’t be surprised if their values are all screwed up
when i was a kid it was a punishment to go to your room
these days it is paradise, computer video games, cellphones
why would they ever leave??
it is no wonder many children are so obese
when i was a kid it was a punishment to go to your room
these days it is paradise, computer video games, cellphones
why would they ever leave??
it is no wonder many children are so obese
This gives me an idea. Want to really punish your kids and instill some good habits into them? Make them go outside for a couple hours. With no cell phones, iPods or other portable electronic devices. And no car; they can’t drive anywhere.
Even though it was a couple decades ago, I had a lot of “fun stuff” in my room, so it wasn’t real punishment back then, either.
“when i was a kid it was a punishment to go to your room these days it is paradise, computer video games, cellphones, why would they ever leave??”
LOL. A great observation. Hopefully, enough parents rid the room and the kid of said luxuries in the event they actually do disipline them.
discipline?
Sunday, December 10, 2006
“Masked mortgages
With the housing boom over, its dark side is coming to light, including fraud. Government data show more criminals – and more consumers – lied to sell or buy expensive homes.
Pam Houchen, the former mayor of Huntington Beach who helped dupe lenders and borrowers in a real estate scam, is a good example of a national phenomenon.”
http://ocregister.com/ocregister/money/homepage/article_1378235.php
I wonder how many other politicians will be included in scams like this? It is amazing how many come into politics as normal middle class citizens and then leave millionaires.
“With the housing boom over, its dark side is coming to light, including fraud. Government data show more criminals – and more consumers – lied to sell or buy expensive homes.”
The moment they lied all of those “consumers” became “criminals”. After all, fraud is illegal regardless of the motivation.
Did anyone attend this presentation or have any news about it?
——————
http://www.americanprogress.org/events/2006/12/moving_on.html
The Economic and Policy Implications of the Housing Bubble
December 8, 2006, 12:00pm – 1:30pm
Keynote Address:
Senator Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)
Featured Panelists:
Dean Baker, Co-director, Center for Economic and Policy Research
Kimberly D. Warden, Vice President of Federal Affairs, Center for Responsible Lending
Christian Weller, Senior Economist, Center for American Progress
Mark M. Zandi, Chief Economist and Cofounder, Moody’s Economy.com
Moderated by:
Derek Douglas, Associate Director for Economic Policy, Center for American Progress
Opening Remarks by:
Sarah Rosen Wartell, Executive Vice President for Management, Center for American Progress
Location
Center for American Progress
1333 H St. NW, 10th Floor
Washington, DC 20005
After a six-year boom in home prices, the housing bubble is finally deflating. Millions of families were able to take advantage of the boom, buying, selling, and then buying new homes again. During the same period, however, homeownership rates actually declined for a significant number of Americans. Recent economic data has also tarnished the legacy of the great American housing boom by revealing that many families are in a very vulnerable situation economically. The equity share of homeowners’ stakes in their own homes decreased as homeowners amassed new debt more rapidly than their homes appreciated. Rising home prices led families to have a greater concentration of wealth tied up in their homes even as they expanded their credit lines to fuel their consumption. A slowdown in the housing market could thus result in less consumption growth and less economic growth. In short, policymakers have a number of issues to address in the coming months and years as we face the fallout from the end of the housing boom.
Join the Center for American Progress and a distinguished group of panelists for a discussion on what the end of the housing bubble means for American families and for the economy. The panelists will discuss if preventing a similar boom is desirable and how that could be accomplished. The panelists will also highlight what policy makers must now undertake in order to address the effects of the end of the housing bubble. Particular attention will be given to what affordability measures are needed. The honorable Sen. Paul Sarbanes (D-MD) will provide opening remarks, followed by presentations from four experts.
Location
Center for American Progress
1333 H St. NW, 10th Floor
Washington, DC 20005
Fannie’s 10-K is on their website, http://www.fanniemae.com
No one has yet commented on the fact that they include ‘price declines in 2007′ as one of the risks to which the business is exposed. I’ve never seen that in a GSE 10-K before, but I admit I haven’t looked at all of them. Has anyone seen this sort of statement in earlier 10-Ks, or is this a first?
This was from iTulip.com the other day,and think explains everything….
as Keynes once pointed out, a banker’s job is not to avoid risk, but to make sure that if he’s making a mistake he’s making the same mistake as everyone else, so that he’s positioned to go down with everyone else and not stand out.
……..Reminds me of the Chinese saying, “No snowflake in an avalanche feels responsible.”
This article says pretty much everything we have been saying here, but adds some interesting contrasts with earlier real estate manias
The 2003 quote from John Templeton at the end got me:
“Almost everyone has a home mortgage and some are 89% of the value of the home (and yes, some are even more.) If home prices start down, there will be bankruptcies, and in bankruptcy, houses are sold at lower prices, pushing down home prices further. After home prices go down to one-tenth of the higher price homeowners paid, buy them.”
“After home prices go down to one-tenth of the higher price homeowners paid, buy them.”
John Templeton rocks!!!
Good article technovelist — but then I’m a bigger, nastier bear than most since I also believe in peak oil…. and if I’m right most of suburbia will soon go for cents on the $ — if you can find a buyer.
There may be one or two more peaks of cheap oil before Peak Oil really hits.
Just like the housing bubble too many moving parts to predict.
There may be one or more pseudo-Peak Oil spikes before the next energy regime is introduced which drives petroleum prices down near the price of whale oil.
Better said but same difference.
Not really — have you seen what whale oil sells for today? — and yes, there will be price fluctuations but best tell me what we have as a viable substitute for ‘black gold’ on our alternatives shelf that makes any economic sense. I guess we could mine some liposuction fat for bio-diesel. It comes down to those fundamentals we talk about –
-
Floridians wake up and find out that the average Florida home has dropped by 18% value and in some places, Ft Myers, by 44%. WOW! I bet everyone feels so good that they will just go out and buy stuff!
Sarcasm off now - I just cannot see how this does not affect the overall economy.
Another thing that I have not seen anyone talk about is the low number of jobs created in November only 132K. I say low because during the 90’s most months had job creation of over 200K. I seriously doubt that 132k new jobs are enough to keep this economy afloat.
Sunday, December 10, 2006
Trump opens condo sales on Mexico’s Baja coast
Developer’s name eases worries for some about violence in Tijuana and allegations of pollution.
The Associated Press
SAN DIEGO – Donald Trump’s new luxury hotel-condominiums on Mexico’s booming Baja California coast went on sale Friday, potentially heralding a resurgent development boom along the Pacific shoreline just south of the U.S. border.
The Donald did not show for the one-day sales event at a plush San Diego hotel, but his persona loomed large in the ballroom, where would-be buyers nibbled on biscotti and sipped espresso as they waited to make their bids and celebrated over sirloin tip and fish tacos after clinching the deal.
“Trump is my idol when it comes to real-estate investments,” said Med Sami, 42, of Irvine, after forking over $431,000 for a one-bedroom condo on the fifth floor of the oceanfront property.
Construction of the $200-million-plus Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico is expected to begin by the end of March, with the first of three towers to be completed by the end of 2008, according to Irongate, a Los Angeles real-estate investment firm and Trump’s partner on the project. Prices range from the mid-$200,000s to more than $1 million.
A giant screen in the ballroom showed that 70 of the first tower’s 232 units – worth about $46 million – were spoken for by noon, including four of six penthouses in the 27-story building. Names were called one by one, with each person given only a few minutes to decide. The screen displayed the names of four people next in line.
Trump’s daughter Ivanka was one of the first buyers, snagging a two-bedroom junior penthouse, said Roxanne Loughery of S&P Destination Properties, the sales agent.
Trump’s imprimatur was just what many needed to take the plunge, said Jason Grosfeld, a co-founder of Irongate.
“When The Donald is willing to put his name on the site, that means a lot,” he said.
Buyers in the predominantly Southern Californian crowd said Trump’s involvement eased concerns about owning land in a foreign country. They were undeterred by spiraling violence in the border city of Tijuana, and they paid no heed to protesters outside the hotel who said Trump’s property was on one of the most polluted beaches in North America, a charge the developer emphatically denied.
“Trump’s name didn’t hurt,” said Tom Pfleider of Beaumont, who dropped $550,000 for a one-bedroom on the 11th floor. “I’m sure he wouldn’t put his name on it if he hadn’t (investigated) northern Baja meticulously.”
Trump’s gambit in Mexico comes amid a construction boom on the Baja coast, just south of San Diego, fueled by Americans seeking second homes, affordable retirement spots – or a lucrative investment.
Gustavo Torres, a real estate broker from the Mexican town of Rosarito Beach, said Trump’s towers will be the tallest on the 50-mile oceanfront stretch from Tijuana to Ensenada and could catapult the region ahead of Cabo San Lucas, the peninsula’s other big resort area.
“This puts us into completely new territory,” Torres said. “We were like 20 years behind Cabo San Lucas and, with Trump, we are ahead.”
Marc Penso, a 46-year-old investor from Irvine, said he didn’t plan to keep his new two-bedroom unit. He is betting that Baja’s relatively low home prices – at least compared to Southern California – will continue to fuel the boom and give him a tidy profit.
“Everyone in this room is doing this as an investment,” he said. “There’s no one here who’s going to own these units in five years.”
“There’s no one here who’s going to own these units in five years.”
I am wondering if the word “here” will seem to not belong in this sentence five years from now?
I was in Best Buy Aventura , Miami yesterday to buy a vacuum cleaner. The sales manager told me that he had to send a good number of his employees home early due to it being very quiet. No lines at check out. It was cool cloudy day in Miami great for shopping but no shoppers.. Same at Target. Aventura Mall was packed but I know I go there for the nice X-Mas atmosphere and decorations, more than to buy. Will be interesting to see the sales report this season..
Slightly OT. As foreclosures rise nationwide, and debt-laden middle-class and working-class Americans are increasingly squeezed, from the NYTimes, this report on the “have-mores” who are enjoying a blowout holiday season, with million dollar plus office parties and general excess not seen since 1999.
“…Driven by higher salaries in the financial and technology industries and bigger Wall Street bonuses, corporate events are larger, more creative and often costlier than in the recent past, party planners, restaurant owners and banquet managers say.
…But at a time when the Dow has reached new highs and the haves are evolving into the have mores, these celebrations are more in line with the buoyant economic mood than with the discouraging situation in Iraq. This season, there is a greater willingness to throw more-elaborate parties, complete with themes, video displays and specialty cocktails…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/fashion/10hospitality.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
This is slightly OT. With foreclosures hitting record levels, Walmart and other discounters having a slow season, and debt-laden middle class and working class Americans increasingly squeezed, this report from the NYT on the “have-mores” who are having a blowout holiday season, with million dollar plus office parties, and general excess not seen since 1999.
“…Driven by higher salaries in the financial and technology industries and bigger Wall Street bonuses, corporate events are larger, more creative and often costlier than in the recent past, party planners, restaurant owners and banquet managers say…
…But at a time when the Dow has reached new highs and the haves are evolving into the have mores, these celebrations are more in line with the buoyant economic mood than with the discouraging situation in Iraq. This season, there is a greater willingness to throw more-elaborate parties, complete with themes, video displays and specialty cocktails…”
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/10/fashion/10hospitality.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Lizard brains and bovine brains, beware the Ageing bull…
http://economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8382415
Buttonwood
Ageing bull
Dec 7th 2006 | NEW YORK
From The Economist print edition
With few places left to turn, investors have pinned their hopes on the stockmarket
ROCKY is returning to American cinemas this Christmas. And the financial markets increasingly resemble Sylvester Stallone’s ageing pugilist: they may get knocked about a bit, but they always seem to bounce back.
In recent weeks disappointing economic data have pointed to the possibility of an American recession in 2007. The dollar has weakened sharply, raising the spectre of the complete collapse that bears have been predicting for years. And on December 4th Pfizer, the pharmaceuticals giant, saw its share price plunge after yet another drug failed the testing process (see article).
But the stockmarket has rolled with the punches. And other asset classes have been similarly buoyant. The spreads (extra yields) on corporate bonds and emerging-market debt are low by historical standards; commercial-property valuations in America and Britain are high.
The general explanation for this bullishness is that the world is flush with liquidity. But liquidity is one of those catchall phrases that is not as good as it sounds—a bit like saying “there are more buyers than sellers”, which is itself a cliché of dubious merit (for every buyer who makes a trade, there must be a seller).
What does appear to be clear is that investors are happy to take on risk and eager to buy any asset that offers a higher yield than government bonds. And even those investors who do worry about the American recovery, or about political risks in the Middle East, have to think twice before they sell. The corporate sector is still increasing profits and churning out cash in the form of dividends and share buy-backs. Every Monday seems to bring news of a mega-merger; on December 4th, it was the combination of Bank of New York and Mellon Financial (see article). Potential bid targets from the private-equity sector get larger and larger (the latest tittle-tattle is about Home Depot, worth over $100 billion if you throw in debt). Why sell your shares if someone might be willing to buy them tomorrow at a 20% premium?
As for the dollar, the reason to worry would be if a falling currency prompted foreign investors to demand higher yields on American Treasury bonds to compensate them for the risk. That might really push America into recession. But it is not happening so far; yields have been falling.
All this adds up to what Jim Cramer, the hyperactive pundit of American financial television, describes as “one of the best markets I’ve ever seen.” Bulls are talking about double-digit stockmarket returns in 2007, thanks to a combination of stockmarket rerating (higher price-earnings multiple) and growing profits.
So what might spoil the party? One problem, as the producers of the Rocky series know only too well, is that sequels are subject to the laws of diminishing returns. Once bond spreads and property yields are low, there is no longer much scope for further capital gains.
That is why investors’ hopes are pinned on the stockmarket in 2007; share valuations are only at historically average levels. But company profits are at a 40-year high as a share of American GDP. If profits were about to revert to the mean, share multiples should fall below average.
The bulls do not think that will happen soon. But whereas one more year of above-average profits growth is possible, three or four more are hard to imagine.
Clearly, the use of borrowed money to enhance returns (often referred to as the “carry trade”) means that the markets are vulnerable to a change in sentiment. When the trend changes, as it did in May, there will be a mad rush for the exits. As Bill Gross of Pimco, a bond giant, writes: “I have a strong sense that the ability to lever any or all asset returns via increasing leverage is reaching a climax.”
Timing, however, is notoriously difficult. Bears can point to low share volatility, as measured by the Chicago Board Options Exchange’s VIX gauge, as a sign of investor complacency. But it may merely be that investors have seen no need to incur the costs of insuring their portfolios against loss.
The markets will thus need some sort of shove to push them off today’s course. Higher unemployment would be one possibility: it might turn the housing-market correction into a rout. If the nuclear dispute with Iran were to escalate so that, say, the straits of Hormuz were blocked and crude jumped to $100 a barrel, investor confidence would take a hit.
But predicting such events is more in the realms of astrology than financial punditry. Sceptical fund managers have been forced into a position of being “fully invested and scared as hell.” The knockout blow will undoubtedly come (probably in the credit markets). But just like the Rocky franchise, bull runs on financial markets have a habit of going on much longer than most people expect.
House prices
Bubble and squeak
Dec 7th 2006
From The Economist print edition
While America’s housing market cools, property elsewhere is still hot
IN MANY countries, people are showing little sign of losing their appetite for residential property. Although the pace in several of the raciest markets around the world has eased a bit in the last quarter, prices have risen by more than 10% in the past year in eight of the countries in our table. The Economist has been collating these house-price indicators since 2002, allowing us to track the global residential-property boom (see chart).
However, in America the steam has come out of the housing market. In the year to the third quarter, the index of house prices compiled by the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO), a regulator, rose by 7.7%, the smallest year-on-year increase for three years. In the quarter itself, prices rose by only 0.9%, the weakest for more than eight years.
The National Association of Realtors reported that the median sale price of existing homes was the same in October as in September, 3.5% less than a year before; according to the Census Bureau, the median price of a new home bounced up in October. But both figures have been affected by a shift in the regional pattern of sales.
Only in the West, where homes tend to be among America’s biggest and dearest, did the number of existing or new houses sold increase in the month. In the North-East, sales of new homes dropped by 39%. Across America, existing-home sales were down by 11.5% in the year; those of new properties were down by a quarter.
A huge number of homes is awaiting sale: 7.4 months’ supply of both existing and new properties. David Rosenberg, an economist at Merrill Lynch, points out that inventories of new homes are 40% above their historical norm. The number of new properties completed but not yet sold has risen by 50% in the past year, to 166,000. America’s builders are cutting back hurriedly. In October alone private residential-construction spending fell by 1.9%; it was 9.4% lower than a year before.
Although America’s bubble is deflating, other markets are still looking decidedly frothy.
http://economist.com/finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=8381960
Anyone interested in ponying up $379k for a shoebox cabin (700 square feet) in Tahoe? Didn’t think so. It should come as no surprise that this beauty has been on Craigslist nearly every day for months. These FB’s bought it 2 years ago for $295,000. Funny thing is, this little crapbox sold for $120,000 back in 2001. But everybody wants to live in Tahoe, real estate only goes up, no bubble here, great investment, blah, blah, blah. This little POS is going right back down to the sub $200k range and quick. Have a look for yourself.
http://reno.craigslist.org/rfs/246797649.html
Kinda off topic… but does anyone have any recommendations for a domestic savings account product that’s held in Euros? Or an overseas account from a reputable institution that provides a decent rate of return with minimal fees that is open to US residents? Maybe I’m just looking in the wrong places, but I’m having a hard time finding something that meets all this criteria–the only good ones seem to only be available to UK residents or whatever.
http://www.everbank.com/main.asp?affid=eb
You’ll be better off with their CDs than their savings accounts from looking at the rates, but they have Euro and Pound Sterling w/ FDIC, so obviously open to us Yanks.
My wife and I own a 10,000 sq. feet lot that we want to build a 2000 sq. foot home on in mid 2007. The builder has quoted us a price of about $92 a sq. foot. The only luxury that includes is 3/4 inch hardwood floors. I think that this is too much to pay. If prices are still dropping in 2008 we will wind up with a 210k house worth maybe 160k. Please email me your thoughts at: thegraywizard2000@yahoo.com
At AJ’s (upscale grocery store) in Chandler, AZ this afternoon:
“Two weeks before Christmas and it’s dead in here. We should be a lot busier than this.” - sommelier talking to another customer in the wine department.
“…actually, It’s looking pretty haggard in here.” - checkout clerk.
Michigan Homebuilder Raids Employees’ 401k Plans
Jim Elliott, 55, spends his days clambering onto the tops of houses, taking measurements for the wooden trusses his company sells to support roofs through long, snowy winters.
Not long ago, Elliott thought his ladder-climbing days would soon be over. With a few more years of work, his 401(k) account would be large enough to let him retire at 60 and spend his days with his three grandchildren.
Then Elliott learned that his former employer had looted the company’s 401(k) plan. The $230,000 he had saved over three decades was gone.
Ren-good article–
Love the line “Thefts from 401(k)s at large companies are practically unheard of. These plans generally are run by big investment firms whose reputations could be ruined by pilferage.”
Hmmm. Guess Enron wasn’t as big as I thought. Same S**t as the “well funded” pension plans…
I expect that we’ll be hearing a lot more of these, unfortunately.