“It’s No Longer Liar’s Poker” In Texas
The Star Telegram reports from Texas. “Home sales are down for the eighth month in a row, compared with the same month last year, according to figures released by the North Texas Real Estate Information System. Sales of existing homes are suffering as the market contends with an oversupply of housing stock, said housing analyst Ted Wilson in Dallas. Those homes were built when the housing market was roaring with record home sales.”
“‘The inventories haven’t been outrageous, it’s just that there’s so much inventory that it’s hard to get attention,’ Wilson said. ‘There has been no pressure on housing, because there has been so much inventory out there,’ Wilson said.”
The Dallas Morning News. “At the end of January there was almost a nine-month supply of pre-owned homes for sale in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, according to statistics.”
“‘Some may be seasonal, but I also suspect some is due to a real slowdown in the market,’ said Jim Gaines, a researcher with Texas A&M University. ‘If sales volume doesn’t show marked improvement over last year, I suspect we’ll see a very definite shift toward a buyer’s market with longer sales times,’ he said.”
“Almost 43,000 pre-owned homes are on the market, 7 percent more than a year ago. Median home sales prices in January were down 1 percent from a year ago to $139,950. Condo sales and prices were also down last month. Sales fell 6 percent from January 2006 and median prices were off 2 percent.”
“In the Dallas - Fort Worth area, 12,000 completed, unsold new homes are up for sale, according to the latest estimates. That’s almost double the number on the market a few years ago.”
“Local builders seem to have gotten the message about sharply cutting back on starts. In December, single-family building permits in the Dallas area were down 48 percent from a year earlier, according to M/PF YieldStar. And November building permits in the area were down 33 percent from the previous year.”
“‘The reality of whether the ugliness is behind us will not become evident until the spring sales market unfolds further,’ said Ted Wilson.”
From Inman News. “The Dallas/Fort Worth housing market slowdown deepened in January, as sales and prices of single-family homes continued to decline, according to preliminary statistics.”
“The median sales price of these homes was down 4.4 percent from $146,400 in December. With the new year came a flood of new single-family listings, 13,892, which marks a significant 53 percent increase from December’s 9,062 new listings.”
The American Stateman. “The number of Californians who moved into Hays, Travis and Williamson counties in 2005 jumped 32 percent from the previous year, and real estate agents helping many of the transplants buy homes here said the numbers did not decline in 2006.”
“Stephanie and John Landers moved from the Laguna Beach area of California to Austin with their two young sons in February 2005, leaving behind a bluff-top home overlooking the Pacific Ocean. ‘Everybody made a lot of money on real estate out there, but it’s kind of like golden handcuffs,’ Stephanie Landers said. ‘If you don’t leave the state, you can’t move anywhere else.’”
“The tremendous amount of money from real estate gains coming out of California helps explain why this relatively small group is often blamed or credited for rising housing prices in Central Texas, even though the majority of California transplants have median incomes no higher than those in the areas into which they are moving.”
“(Realtor) John Rosshirt said California buyers are accustomed to much higher home prices and generally are prepared to pay more than buyers from Texas. This has a ripple effect on the market, Rosshirt said, because buyers who lose out on one house to a California buyer with a higher bid often are willing to pay more the next time.”
The Express News. “San Antonio has recently lost three mortgage lenders, while several other companies have made it tougher for first-time home buyers and borrowers with shaky incomes or credit to get loans. The shrinkage and belt-tightening reflect the nationwide retrenchment in the mortgage industry as defaults rise.”
“Twelve of the largest mortgage lenders have closed recently. Delinquencies on subprime loans jumped 17 percent nationwide in the past 12 months, based on the most recent figures compiled by the Mortgage Bankers Association.”
“‘A lot of lenders are dropping like flies,’ said Rudolph Timpte, an underwriter for a local mortgage banker.”
“In San Antonio, subprime lender Classic Home Lending and wholesalers Harbourton Mortgage Investment Corp. and Mortgage Lender Network closed in December.”
“‘I got a call (in late January) from one of the competition who said, ‘Hey Jack, I’ve got two loans approved with Harbourton Mortgage Investment Corp. and they just pulled out of the market. What am I gonna do?’ said Jack Shull, co-owner and loan officer at Sonterra Mortgage Capital.”
“The belt-tightening started about six months ago when mortgage lenders began to see rising default rates as home values dipped in some regions.”
“‘We didn’t see it in the past because rapid price appreciation meant that if you couldn’t make the mortgage payment, then you could sell the home and get from under the loan,’ said Patrick Gillock, co-owner and lending officer at Sonterra.”
“In December, Dallas-based Sebring Capital Partners collapsed in ‘a really scary event,’ Shull said.”
“Sebring, one of the first and largest subprime lenders in Texas, had been known for its conservative loan policies. It apparently had been forced to buy back many loans from investors because of rising defaults.”
“This month, Wells Fargo increased the minimum down payment by 5 percentage points on borrowers in 150 riskier counties, including Goliad, Victoria, Calhoun and Cameron counties in Texas.”
“Many lenders have reacted like NovaStar Mortgage Inc. In January, the Kansas City, Mo.-based mortgage bank raised its minimum credit score to 620 for San Antonio borrowers who want to finance 100 percent of a home’s value, according to NovaStar’s Terry Burge. That was the second 20-point increase in five months and prevented borrowers in the lowest credit tier from qualifying for 100 percent loans.”
“NovaStar recently began scoring borrowers based on the amount of time in their current job, length of time at their current residence and debt-to-income ratio to weed out those most likely to default.”
“‘We anticipate somewhere between 12 percent and 15 percent of our loans will be affected,’ Burge said. ‘But we feel that’s the right loans to lose if they won’t be with us a year from now anyway.’”
“New Century Mortgage Corp. is requiring first-time buyers to have three active credit lines or utility accounts in good standing, and rental payments don’t count. ‘I used to be able to count rental payments as a trade line, but we have cut that out,’ said Marcia Messer, San Antonio account executive for the Irvine, Calif.-based subprime lender. ‘We’ve really cracked down on first-time home buyers.’”
“Most lenders also are requiring commissioned workers, such as car sales staff and real estate agents, to show greater proof of cash flow via bank records before approving mortgages with limited income documentation, called alternative A, no-documentation or stated-income loans.”
“‘It’s no longer liar’s poker on those stated-income loans,’ underwriter Timpte said.”
“Industry consolidation is likely to continue. The owners of Option One Mortgage Corp. and Argent Mortgage, which make loans in San Antonio, are actively seeking buyers.”
‘Comparing investment yields with prices paid indicates that prices paid for land from 1976 to 1988 resulted in negative returns for the ten-year holding period. During that time, Texas land prices approached or exceeded $1,200 per acre in 2006 dollars. The market peaked in 1984 at $1,419 per acre. History suggests that paying more than $1,200 per acre will earn investors meager, if not negative, ten-year returns.’
‘Currently, Texas land prices greatly exceed $1,200 per acre, the approximate maximum amount paid by investors earning a positive return in the 40 years ending in 2006. Conventional wisdom suggests that the current price of $1,681 per acre has surpassed the price prudent investors should pay if they expect to see a positive return on landownership in ten years. That wisdom implicitly assumes the next ten years will unfold much like the previous 40.’
‘Sales of existing homes are suffering as the market contends with an oversupply of housing stock, said Ted Wilson, principal at housing analysts Residential Strategies in Dallas. Those homes were built when the housing market was roaring with record home sales. ‘Our problems are stemming from too much capacity and too much inventory,’ Wilson said.’
‘With the new year came a flood of new single-family listings which…marks a significant 53 percent increase from December’s 9,062 new listings.’
Built when the market was ‘roaring’ and now we see the spring ‘flood’ of listings. Yet some will claim there isn’t a bubble in Texas?
There’s definitely a bubble in building, but prices in most areas are only up about 20% since 1998. Prices were pretty flat from 1998 to 2005. In 2005 the prices spiked 20%. I think that was due to speculators trying to bring their scam to Texas. The high property taxes here hold prices down. A $500K house would cost you $16K/yr in property taxes.
Jerry,
‘prices in most areas are only up about 20% since 1998. Prices were pretty flat from 1998 to 2005. In 2005 the prices spiked 20%.’
When I was working south of Austin near I-35 in the mid 90’s, new houses were selling for as little as $50k. Lots of people forget that the central Texas boom began around 1993, so the true floor for these markets is much lower that 1998, IMO.
For instance, Dallas had a telecom boom early in the 90’s, and I don’t believe north Dallas ever gave up those gains, even with the massive overbuilding that continues to this day.
Jerry’s obviously imbibing some quality pharmaceuticals.
Jerry, don’t waste your buzz on a bubble site. Saturday morning is loaded with quality cartoons for a “head” like you.
Do you think $56/sf for a new house is too expensive? What would you consider to be a fair price? Go to the Horizon Homes website and you can find the listings yourself.
Would you consider $65/sf for a house built in 2000 to be bubble prices? That is the listed price for many houses in the surburbs about 15 minutes from Telecom Corridor. These are very low-crime areas with good schools.
There are brand new 3000sf houses listed at $180K. I bet you could knock $10K off easily. That comes out to $56/sf. Are you looking for a free house?
I’m just speaking for the North Texas area. I know Austin had a nice run up in the late 1980’s and early 1990’s.
As I remember it, Austin was in the tank in 89.
Actually, yes….I am looking for a free house.
I don’t know about 1989, but I had a friend who moved to Austin in 1985 and bought a house for about $65K. He sold it for $95K in a few years later.
As for the free house, you will find it when you find the man/woman who has never lied.
I’m not saying the prices in Texas can’t drop further. I think they will be lower by in 2008 mostly due to tighter lending standards and overbuilding. The price to income ratio here is already less than 3x. I could easily buy a 2500sf house for 2x my income, but I don’t want the carrying costs and don’t need the empty rooms to furnish. Besides, my money is tied up in the market shorting the subprimes.
Here’s a free house for you:
http://dallas.backpage.com/realestate/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A740345&name=homes%20for%20sale
(actually its $1, but with inflation, free ain’t as cheap as it used to be)
Jerry, something is off in the dates or prices for Austin. I lived there from 1983-1995. There was no house that was bought for $65K in 1985 that sold for $95K in 1988-92.
It was either bought for $65K in 1985 (a small house to be sure - 1000 sf or so) and sold for $35K in 1990 or sold for $95K in 2005.
Free house
… free as in free puppy!
“In 2005 the prices spiked 20%. I think that was due to speculators trying to bring their scam to Texas.”
Don’t you think Katrina had something to do with Texas’ late peak? Many evacuees were bussed to Texas as I recall.
Most of that slime went to Houston and straight onto the welfare rolls and jails. They are causing a ruckus down there and the people in Houston are regretting their generosity. They’re ready to pack those people on busses and send them back to New Orleans.
Most of the California translplants are moving to Austin for the laid back life or Dallas for the jobs.
Austin’s housing future depends upon how much speculation and overbuilding. If the recent market is 30% speculative buying and the builders are still building and keep going…we’ll see a rerun of 1985-92….figure 20% down in Tarrytown/Pemberton/Enfield at minimum (though the taxes as far worse now then 12 years ago and could be a negative influence) and 40-50% down further out.
They are not going back to New Orleans, by and large, unless the government rebuilds the neighborhoods and passes out free houses or something pretty close to free.
Drive around some of those areas and you’ll understand why people won’t go back.
I’d buy a Lakeview lot for $10K-$20 with a teardown on it that was worth $500K-$1m before…but the prices aren’t that low and currently do not reflect the risk of the area never coming back.
I lived in New Orleans for 30 years. It will get hit again. There is and always has been high crime. The oil industry was great from the 50’s through the mid 80’s and then no more. IMO, New Orleans will just be smaller and never really get back to where it was in the late 70’s. I became leery of living there when I started to learn about global warming. Yes, I accept that premise, and I think that ocean frot property or vulnerable cites like New Orleans are very, very risky.
Roidy
“New Century Mortgage Corp. is requiring first-time buyers to have three active credit lines or utility accounts in good standing, and rental payments don’t count.”
Sounds like they will be out of business soon, as they are sending away their best customers.
Oh, they are actually requireing their best customers to have a credit history now, how shocking.
As soon as prices stopped going up sh@t has really hit the fan.People were simply borrowing to make payments as prices rose. Now they cannot make the payments from their stated income jobs.This is going to get ugly. The NAR is scared sh@tless about this blowing up.They are a joke in my opinion. Isn’t his whole lending scam kind of the line of bullsh@t about the “New Economy”.
new economy
new paradigm
new plateau
creative financing
affordability products
earnings don’t matter
buying eyeballs
It’s a bunch of BS lines from scammers the past 10 years.
They didn’t say anything about liar’s loans or false appraisals? I guess those are still ok
lol
“NovaStar recently began scoring borrowers based on the amount of time in their current job, length of time at their current residence and debt-to-income ratio to weed out those most likely to default.”
LOL! My, my, what a novel idea! Glad to see Novastar at the cutting edge of modern prudent lending theory.
For the present moment, there seems to be a collapse of subprime lending standards underway.
For the record I am comeing out of the woodwork to say that I am possibly the father of anna nicoles baby, danny lyn. We had a two year affair and while howard k stern slept downstairs
Wow, an ArizonaDudette! I suppose you want to keep track for her $500,000,000 inheritance from the Texas oil baboon, until Dudette turns 18???
I’ll bet neither of the two weinies in the news are the father. If they want to truly test the list of possibles, the baby will be 18 by the time they can process the data.
My money says the father is probably the son that died a few months ago.
That would add a whole new twist to the saga.If that is the case I will lose my 400 million I have comeing to me.It is going to be interesting how many guys show up claiming to be daddy of my baby danny lynn.
But but but, what about their “new, sophisticated” ways of determining creditworthiness? I was under the impression that old-fashioned credit scores were going the way of the dinosaurs.
“‘It’s no longer liar’s poker on those stated-income loans,’ underwriter Timpte said.”
What’s an underwriter? Is this something like a buggy-whip manufacturer?
Underwriter: (n) O.E. Person or persons collecting a fee for arranging the transfer of money from a person who has money to a person who has no money.
In days past, the underwriter was supposed to assure that the person with no money (borrower) had the ability to repay the money to the person who originally held the money (lender).
This is no longer a requirement for collecting the fee.
Haven’t they really complicated the process for getting a loan?
They want to make a pretty simple concept into a mystery full of financial jargon.
According to some mortgage broker’s radio add, “…getting a home loan should not be any harder than ordering a pizza….”
Look for lenders to start accepting pesos for mortgage payments soon…
“This is no longer a requirement for collecting the fee.”
diogenes –
You have done a great job of explaining why no doc got a foothold. Why bother documenting a loan, when it adds a layer of fees for useless underwriting services?
“Yet some will claim there isn’t a bubble in Texas?”
Hey, Txchick has been toeing this line for months! … … Don’t hit me! ….
The only people who can say that with a straight face are ones who want to sell you something and morons from out of state.
I knew DFW was peaking and about to go downhill because my specuvestor buddy and his wife just returned from the area. He has a knack for buying at the top and holding.
We have about 30K empty houses used and new waiting for the specuvestors.
So does FL, CA, NJ, MI, MA, and so on…
“Industry consolidation is likely to continue. The owners of Option One Mortgage Corp. and Argent Mortgage, which make loans in San Antonio, are actively seeking buyers.”
Will the government step in to prop up home prices after the industry whose job it was to prop them up finishes consolidating?
Golden Handcufffs indeed…
We sold our house in el lay in Aug 05′ and moved within California, to cheaper digs, no way we could make a lateral move, buying somewhere else in the metropolis, or liken it this way:
Virtually every home owner in L.A. was sitting on $200k to $1m profit, if they’d owned their house, just 5 years, But for the majority, it was like being up a ton in a Vegas casino, but most everybody hung around the casino, still playing. (i.e. not selling your house and moving out of dodge)
It will dawn on many to get out, and soon. But that ship called “one time windfall” has set sail already. Sorry you forgot to take a profit.
They got greedy just like the folks partying hard who thought the nasdaq would go to 6000 0r 7000. As soon as the head of steam ran out their was a mad dash to the exits. Same thing is happening right now. Real estate just takes longer to sell.You can dump a stock with a 7 second execution guarantee.Some of these bozos are takeing a year to finally hit a market price for their house.
You know,
It doesn’t seem like a big deal to get rid of one house, but we were sweating it in Aug 05′, thinking maybe we’d waited too long to make our move. Our house was on the market a little over a month, maybe 100 people looked at it and we had just one offer and we dickered back and forth and it sold.
I wonder how long it would take us to sell our house today?
Same with me. Put house up for sale in Sept ‘05 had 100+ people look at it 2 offers and it went into excrow in 10 days. But 6 months before it would have had 10 offers. The downturn started in June ‘05. Prices seem to have gone down a bit over the last 18 months but the real change in number of days on the market. I truly thought the big crash would have been last year in ‘06.
It feels good to have played the game and walked away a winner, selling near the top of the market, as it turns out.
Now just reduced to a housing bubble voyeur~ ha
“Real estate just takes longer to sell.”
Only one week longer, if you price it to sell.
“Golden Handcuffs”
I like that. Did Mrs. Landers coin that phrase? First I’ve heard, but perfect fit for all the paper millionaires around here in SoCal.
The only way they can think of to take advantage of the paper profits is HELOC, then go buy a big Hummer, pool, etc. to show off their “windfall”. I can’t explain it, but it’s like they forget the fact they must now pay back those loans. That’s all they’ve gained…a LOAN, unless they move out of state. Gold-plated fools…tsk tsk
Nothing on Houston? Come on. It’s different here.
It’s gonna hit Houston too, builders are still crazily building. A UH economy forecaster already said there would be an oversupply in 07′ and 08′. 05′ and 06′ are great for builders, they built and sold, a lot. Total transactions ran over 70k for each of the 2 years.
I just don’t know how that will affect the prices, with building cost over there, I don’t see much down pressure. Just like Jerry said, how low can you go from 56/sqft? Of course, instead of 56, here you have 65-70/sqft for a new house in Katy.
Most likely is that the builders cut back dramatically until current inventory is cleared. Since they don’t have a lot room on prices, it’ll be a long process to whittle down the inventory.
Once the prices drive 80% LTV to 25% below rental carrying costs, they will stabilize. The prices won’t go below that. Then depending on supply, it will take a few years to absorb the empty and foreclosed houses. The psychology will take a few years to move from negative to neutral.
This guideline for suburban tract homes. In-town or close-in suburb excellent neighborhoods won’t go down as much.
Condos, who knows?
“‘We anticipate somewhere between 12 percent and 15 percent of our loans will be affected,’ Burge said. ‘But we feel that’s the right loans to lose if they won’t be with us a year from now anyway.’”
There goes some more demand.
Note to self review Econ 101 book from college on what this means.
For some reason reading these articles on required down payments and credit lines has a song stuck in my head:
“What part of no don’t you understand.”
Got popcorn?
Neil
Darn, Income? Credit Score?
I was thinking of ordering 5 to 10 homes for 07′.
But they want proof of ability to pay.
Damn, don’t they know who I am?
In my 19 years of life, I have never, ever been treated this way…..
Haha….going to get ugly…and yet……beautiful at the same time!
In my 19 years of life, I have never, ever been treated this way…..
Good thing you are joking, cuz you were starting to sound like another whiner named Casey.
“(Realtor) John Rosshirt said California buyers are accustomed to much higher home prices and generally are prepared to pay more than buyers from Texas.
Down here we have a word for people like this: suckers.
I think there are around 30 million folks in california. I wonder what percent come on board every year for a get rich scheme like AMWAY? Theres a fool born every .25 sceonds there.
I kept hearing that Texas had no bubble because prices had not appreciated as much as they had in other areas. “Everyone has a bubble but us”
Ben, your blog seems to be debunking the idea that all real estate is local. I think in each market there are local elements and national elements. For example if the rate on a 30 year fixed is 6.5% in L.A., it will be 6.5% in N.Y and Tennessee.
I think it’s possible that the national “bubble talk” has some effect on markets that otherwise would not be as severly effected. Are there some uneffected markets? It doesn’t look like it.
One of the above comments mentioned out of state speculators bringing their own brand of love to the Texas market. I know that is happening, but on what scale?
This is a great blog. You guys are a hoot!!
And you are a typical SDCIA type know it all, master of the universe, arrogant fool. I worked on the bankruptcies of many of your type in the 80s and 90s. Hit me up when it’s your turn. I’ll give you names of some good lawyers.
Easy Chick, he knows not what he’s saying……….
What the f**k are you talking about? didn’t undestand most of your post.
The pharmacy called. Your Midol is ready.
The set of successful investors and the set of people who do not know how to spell “affect” are not a congruent set.
Hi Brad,
Affect and Effect are different words. He used the right one.
Actually, he used “effect” incorrectly three out of three times.
I think the Californication of many red states brought about the election results of last November…
About us Californians?
Look at us, as being one of the winners in the “you have no choice in who will be your parents” contest.
If my parents came from Dayton or Buffalo or Detroit, i’d have more than likely have stayed there and imagine how far away California must seem economically, to anybody from one of burbs, nowadays?
It’s a weird gig, all based upon the value of real estate, because it costs pretty much the same for food, clothing and transportation in virtually all 48 lower States.
check out today’s Baby Blues comic strip
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/comics/babyblues.html
“The belt-tightening started about six months ago when mortgage lenders began to see rising default rates as home values dipped in some regions.”
“‘We didn’t see it in the past because rapid price appreciation meant that if you couldn’t make the mortgage payment, then you could sell the home and get from under the loan,’ said Patrick Gillock, co-owner and lending officer at Sonterra.”
“‘We didn’t see it in the past because …..”
It is amusing how history is viewed - The ‘past’ only lasted about 2 years and suddenly it is a historic reference point. I assume the past to be more like ‘that decade’ or ‘that half century. Perhaps the tech era has brought us to think in shorter time spans.
The REIC sees 2005 as the norm in RE now. Things will go back to normal soon. LOL
When things go back to the norm, the REIC will be crying instead of lying
being from cali, supposedly austin is the only place in texas to live. i would have bought after we sold family home, but brother said, “don’t go to austin” after rearranging my feathers i started to read this blog…i sure liked the friendly “kool” atmosphere in austin.
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Few Californicators that I know who moved to TX in the past two years all moved to Austin. There they can socialize with former Californicators, who are not the most popular, locally, I would think.
Jas
Back during the internet bubble, I remember a story in the Style section in the American-Statesman that listed the three most annoying pests in Austin - Fire ants, rattlesnakes, and… Californians.
Just as I posted that, the Red Hot Chili Pepper’s ‘Californication’ popped up on the CD shuffle. How appropriate.
They did move to Austin and they aren’t popular….right on all counts. Like someone on the blog said….Austin’s like Berzerkely, except the people who don’t like people from CA are armed.
Texas A&M’s real estate center has monthly sales, price, and listing data on all the Texas markets going back to 1979. It’s easy enough to settle these arguments. Here’s the link:
http://recenter.tamu.edu/data/datahs.html
I doubt A&M recorded all the back office deals the banks and S&L’s did while trying to stay afloat in the 80’s. Also, plenty of properties just didn’t sell, for years.
Of course not. However if the methodology remained consistent then the data should at least accurately reflect pricing and sales TRENDS over time.
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Thanks for the link, Kent. I agree with you. The trend is steady and NOT bubble-like as in Californica, Arizona, Florida, etc.
Jas
That also does not reflect the larger size of houses being built today. I would bet the price per square foot did not keep up with inflation.
“Industry consolidation is likely to continue. The owners of Option One Mortgage Corp. and Argent Mortgage, which make loans in San Antonio, are actively seeking buyers.”
Gee sounds like a great buy…they’re having a harder time selling that mess than a condo in san diego
Yea - how do you sell a business when its worth is negative? Do you require Argent to pay the new owner to buy the company?
What’s happening now is that anytime a company gets into serious discussions about buying a subprime (ala BofA buying Countrywide), the company then looks at the books of the subprime, and runs for the hills. Now that NEW is restating, most likely the other subprimes will have to do the same, and their dirty little secrets will be public.
For example, here’s the Dallas annual price and sales data graphed from 79-06:
http://recenter.tamu.edu/data/hs/hs200a.htm
Does it look bubbly?
If you were to plot incomes alongside it, yes.
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Here you go, Ben.
Year 2,005 1,999 1,989 1,979
Texas Home Prices
(AVERAGE)_______ $174,400 $132,200 $88,100 $52,900
Texas Household Income $42,228 $39,927 $27,016 $16,708
Ratio Home Price to Income 4.13 3.31 3.26 3.17
Slight bubble during 2004-06, mostly 05-06.
Jas
Average home prices is not a good indicator because higher end homes mess up the average. Median home prices is the best indicator.
From 2003 to 2006 there is roughly a 60% gain.
In 3 years time? That 60K sounds bubbly to me.
You CAN’T, I repeat, CAN’T look at these areas this way.
Inner city properties in DFW, Houston, Austin, in a bubble the size of the California one.
Junk properties in far flung suburbs would not appreciate if the population were to suddenly double.
Come on, you know this.
Could anyone comment on Real Estate at El Paso?
Any insights?
Housing market seems to very strong, contrary to what happened at DFW or Austin.
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Yes, looks like it started to bubble in Oct’04. Up 36% during the 2-year period Dec’04-Dec’06. Could be because it seems to have been the lowet priced major area (I only looked at the 5 largest).
Jas
Ha! This is where I graduated from high school.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/metro/4541938.html
Are you trying to warn us about something, Txchic?
After reading that article I have to wonder why yall are making fun of us californians?
Well we did have that nightstalker thing, and then some gay physico dumping bodies on all the fwy’s.
Come to think of it we did elect a forerign born actor for Gov.
Go ahead, keep the californicator jokes coming…we deserve it
The great thing about Texans is that they embrace their dark side. The odious thing about Texans is that they embrace their dark side.