Bits Bucket And Craigslist Finds For April 7, 2007
Please post off-topic ideas, links and Craigslist finds here.
Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
Please post off-topic ideas, links and Craigslist finds here.
global warming for dummies… /
http://immobilienblasen.blogspot.com/
have a nice easter weekend
WSJ interactive inventory chart (thanks jmf!)…
Click on LA and Miami — both are clearly toast.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-flash07.html?project=housingInv07-0407&h=540&w=750&hasAd=1
here is the complete graph
http://matrix.millersamuel.com/?p=1141
Thanks for link jmf - A word about Miller Samuel, I am in looking at their latest –extremely surprising –figures for Mahattan apt sales.
According to their figures, apartment sales not only went up, they surged to wildy high levels in the last quarter - 3,400. During 2004 -the height of the bidding-war frenzy, apt sales were just 2429 for their best quarter.
So now they ask us to believe that in a slowing economy, with large (albeit slightly shrinking- they say- inventory) - that apartment sales reached record levels. They admit to 2 things -that somehow the admission of co-op sales into the public domain skewed results upward (though they have been reporting co-op sales themselves for years before –are they saying they were offering misleading data in those years?) and that a lot of new condos came onto the market in the first quarter — I can partly believe this — as an extrodinary number of condo buildings have been built in the city -and their is a huge rush to both build and sell these spaces.
If NYC realtors participated in the mls system, their data could be verified -but as it stands, it can’t (this is the reason why NYC data is not in the WSJ story) — and if Miller Samuel really wants us to believe Mahattan apt sales can do so astonishingly well in an environment where there are no more bidding wars, and such high inventory, they should provide much more thorough disclosure of how they came to their numbers.
It is a very lucrative business for realtors here to withhold that data and pump the market and the stats any way they see fit. Miller Samuel boasts it is indendent, but go look at their report and you will see a big “prudential doulas elliman” logo on top — a large realty firm in the city.
housegeek - Not sure why you would say or infer such things when you don’t know us. Pretty irresponsible. Coop and condo sales are public record so what are we fabricating? Feel free to go to our methodologies page http://www.millersamuel.com/reports/methodology.php Or feel to call me and interview me directly rather than hiding behind an anon.
Nice to see you are reading this blog - Mr. Miller, thank you for coming. Thanks too for offering to let me interview you -but it would be a much more productive exercise for you — on a blog like this– to elaborate right on this very blog about your methodology:
“The primary data sources for Manhattan co-ops, condos and townhouses were ACRIS, Property Shark and other subscription services, managing agents, board members, lenders, buyers and sellers. The data used in these reports were collected during the normal course of business for Prudential Douglas Elliman and Miller Samuel and do not represent all sales in their respective categories”
ACRIS and propertyshark are public but just to a point. To parse data for the entire city, you’d need to pay very large subscription fee — about $10,000-$20,000 a year for Acris alone — not sure what propertyshark charged - but can you disclose how much you pay for this data? And if we knew how you augmented these public (to those who can afford it) records with “managing agents, lenders ,buyers sellers data” we could check those numbers too.
A really responsible thing for you to do would be to post:
1. More detail of how exactly the co-op data were skewed (by what percentage or number of apartments) - and how this new data is more accurate than your old figures on co-ops
2. A pdf list of what you counted as sales in 1Q 07 and what your source or sources were for these sales,
3. A breakdown of how much you drew from propertyshark and ACRIS vs these other data sources you list.
4. An answer to a question that has always nagged me - if you know it — why don’t Realtors here offer clearer data so places like housetracker and ziprealty can offer stats on sales?
The beauty of blogging is that it doesn’t matter who I am, just how valid my arguments are. You have a chance here to put little old anon me in my place - so go for it!
–
“LA and Miami — both are clearly toast.”
So is Silly.con Valley.
April 07, 2007
Santa Clara County – MLS Data, 52-Week Changes:
Median Listing Price -14.3%
Number of Active Listings +26.4%
Number of sales Pending -20.3%
Jas
From “The Daily Reckoning” at http://www.dailyreckoning.com
The easiest way to make money, often, is to steal it. But stealing money
only benefits the thief, while everyone else suffers. Groups of people are
generally better off when people work hard to create wealth…knowing that
they will be able to hold onto it, or exchange it for wealth in other
forms. Thievery interrupts the whole process. So, societies typically set
up barriers to discourage larceny - locks, taboos, prisons.
But yesterday, we read an article by Martin Hutchinson who explained what
happens when people try to find ways around the barriers. They pick locks,
of course. They figure out little angles. They lie. They cheat. And they
also pass laws that give them ‘entitlements’ to other peoples’ property.
America and the developed countries have been on a roll for the last 50
years or so. Their entrepreneurs, laborers, businessmen and investors have
been able to create wealth faster than the parasites could take it away
from them.
But standards are slipping everywhere. More and more people have come to
expect to get “something for nothing.” And when they get it, they don’t
want to give it up.
Thus, we find in today’s news from Houston something we’ve been waiting
for:
“Groups demand foreclosure moratorium.”
“They pick locks, of course. They figure out little angles. They lie. They cheat.”
They form hedge funds, and charge high fees to part fools from their money.
they convince the governemnt to invent the PPT..as advisory group and act ONLY in time of emergency. Until both parties see how advantagious a “RIGGED” market can be. Now central bankers liquify the world with fiat currencies spew them in the capital markets to control even daily dips with make believe sells of put options, @50 times the actual outstandings. & continue to report economic data that defies logic.
Great post. I remember many years ago reading about the psychology of the average criminal. It was disturbing to read that many of them do not think they are doing wrong. They have some bad brain connections or something. Of course, I’m no liberal, so I don’t think there is any excuse for crime (”but he was born that way! Sob!”). The criminal only understands and respects retaliatory force, but if retaliatory force goes away, the criminal quickly returns to his activities.
A few weeks ago the Arizona Republic had photos of everyone on death row in Maricopa county. Most are men and some are women. Most of them look peculiar in some way.
(g. Of course, I’m no liberal, so I don’t think there is any excuse for crime)
libs don’t either, california has tons of criminals locked up.
Maybe many of them do a bad brain connection. If they were kids, I wonder how many of them would be diagnosed as Autistism which itself, is bad brain connections.
There is supposed to be an autistic epidemic but I believe it due to better diagnosis. In older days, they would have just been regarded as difficult kids.
Our family has a nephew who is autistic (He is 6) and boy is he hard work. He is pretty creative but drawbacks are communicating with him is difficult and he get easily frustrated. We had him for the weekend to give his parents a break so I took him to playground. Whilst he was on slide he hit a similar aged girl out of frustration that she was taking too long to go down. I was mortified. I often wonder how he will be when he grows up.
You don’t think that those who knowingly commit a crime, knowing that it is wrong, should be punished more? We punish first degree murder (the planned murder) more than second degree manslaughter (accidental killing without negligence). We punish conspiracy to commit fraud whether the commission of fraud was successful or not; we punish those who ’should have known’ that their actions were criminal or who were grossly negligent; but we excuse those who were mentally deficient or non compos mentis in some way, so when Junior convinces Granny with Alzheimer’s to sign the fraudulent cash back title papers, he goes to prison and she doesn’t.
You’re saying conservatives belive those who are in full possession of their faculties, have no brain abnormalities or conditions, perfectly intelligent and understand the law, should receive the same punishment as some mentally retarded shmoe? That to knowingly break the law and knowingly hurt others is morally equivalent to breaking the law with diminished capacity?
Did not the RCC, one of the most conservative organizations in the West, argue that people of the cloth, the religious, who committed spiritual sins–to knowingly defy their god–were more surely damned than thieves, rapists, and murderers? Not that I agree with them, but to point out that even conservatives (or, more certainly conservatives) consider purposeful defiance more wicked than the transgressions of the ignorant or the confused. This is why politicians under indictment suddenly learn the words “I didn’t know … I didn’t know…”
Now, in my opinion, there are some diminished capacity individuals who should be locked up for good. These are individuals who are a danger to society forever. Sociopaths who commit serial murders, serial rapists, and certain violent mentally insane persons who cannot be treated.
However, in the case of lesser crimes, I would much rather throw the book at the mastermind who planned the crime, knowing exactly what he/she was doing and who it would hurt, than the patsy (perhaps greedy, yet stupid patsy) who signed the papers and took the fall.
To me, cruelty is a greater sin than greed. If that makes me a “lib’ral”, so be it.
First!
Been a rough week of almost zero internet access . . . what’s happening?
Damn you jmf!
This was posted at lemetropolecafe.com last Thursday night:
Dear Congressman Heath Shuler,
I was happy to vote for you and believe you to be both an honorable and conscientious man. I have empathy for you with regard to the enormity of the challenges that you face. I can somewhat relate because I served the public for thirty years as a law enforcement officer.
The purpose of my contact is the price fixing that occurs on a regular basis in the commodity market (COMEX) and stock market (NYSE). I have provided a detailed analysis of this market manipulation to both Senator Chris Dodd and Representative Barney Frank, but they do not acknowledge my correspondence. They both serve upon the respective banking committees which oversee the Federal Reserve, U.S. Treasury, and Securities and Exchange Commission, but don’t address matters relative to those chair positions, and restrict their correspondence to only their own district constituents. I don’t understand how they can chair committees with national ramifications and limit the scope of their responsibility to their own districts, but they do.
Accordingly, I need you as my district representative to inquire about the regular violation of the Sherman Anti-Trust Act which occurs chronically in the form of price fixing of both gold and silver bullion, and the shares of the companies which produce this bullion. This price fixing has been revealed by many credible analysts, some from the Gold Anti Trust Action Committee (GATA), which I have an affiliation. It is often done by leasing or swapping central bank gold, but more usually is done through futures contracts. The share manipulation is done through excessive shorting, often illegal, naked shorting. Moreover, there is a pletoria of admissions about this price fixing from past Federal Reserve Chairmen, members of the Bank of International Settlements, and officials at the International Monetary Fund. It seems the entire U.S. economic policy concerning the U.S. Dollar consists of the manipulation of the price of gold. This price fixing is discernible because it contradicts the premise of trading for profit, as it chases the bid price lower, selling more at each lower bid price.
Supposedly, this market intervention is done under the auspices of the Exchange Stabilization Fund and the Working Group on Financial Markets, but under the present Executive Branch leadership; it has transcended that authority and made a mockery of America’s premise for free and fair markets. Additionally, the daily intervention is carried out by bullion banks such as Goldman Sachs, Morgan Chase, etc., and the fact that the U.S. Treasury employs so many key personnel with ties to Goldman Sachs reeks of a conflict of interest. Goldman’s recent extraordinary profits suggests to many traders that there is privileged insider information being employed.
In that connection, there was recently an article in the NY Post by
John Crudele
(http://www.nypost.com/seven/04032007/business/
hank__why_are_you_ignoring_my_foia_requests__business_john_crudele.htm)
in which he rather sarcastically petitions Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to respond to his Freedom of Information Act requests about official, government market intervention. Seemingly, the Treasury Secretary stonewalls these requests. He can be assured that there will be more such requests as there is a growing movement against this mockery.
These manipulations of purported free and fair markets have become blatant and those of us that trade or study such practices are realizing there is no semblance of fairness, because the markets are being centrally controlled by an official entity. To my thinking, that constitutes fascism!
In closing, please champion the cause of us small investors, who are being cheated by official intervention of these markets. Represent these concerns to Congressman Barney Franks and Senator Chris Dodd, who should be providing oversight of such matters. I can provide much more factual information about the manipulation of both gold and silver, as well as to serve as a liaison to other industry experts, such as GATA. Market speculation is difficult enough on a fair and level playing field without predatory behavior from a cartel of bullion banks acting on behalf of the U.S. Treasury, which is exactly what is presently occurring.
Sincerely,
Richard D. Caccavale
That dude needs to chill out.
Why?
“Enormity” does not mean “Enormous amount.” It means horibbleness.
Perhaps the writer mean to use “Enormousositynesshooddom”
ROFL! How about Pletoria of admissions! HAHAHAHA
“You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
Inconceivable!
NYC-boy
howabut this:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2007/0406.html
And this:
http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/deepcaster/2006/1006.html
That should get things moving!
this guy sounds like the posters on the NFI boards. conspiracies, naked shorting, are what drove the price down, not business fundamentals
we see gov’t intervention every day, so I never rule anything out. the Fed interferes and it’s in plain sight. the japanese gov’t a few years ago spent billions to keep the yen where they wanted it. the gold pool was only a few years ago.
I thought maybe ted butler would get some sort of silver price fixing investigation. spitzer didn’t do anything, so there must not be anything wrong. hopefully.
the market always wins out in the end.
http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_01/judge052101.html
You have vastly overestimated the attention span of the congressional intern who will be delegated to read your mail.
Just what I was thinking…
…and write the reply.
Charts don’t lie:
http://tinypic.com/fullsize.php?pic=483dye8
what is it?
….and some don’t make any sense….like yours.
West Houston real estate tour:
http://louminatti.blogspot.com/2007/04/west-houston-real-estate-tour-april.html
I hope everyone has a great Easter!
It’s supposed to snow here today some. Two days ago it was 84 degrees. Welcome to Texas.
I know. I can’t remember when we’ve had such a strong cold front move through so late. It’s supposed to snow/sleet as far south as Conroe.
Welcome to everywhere U.S. but Florida and Southern California. Remember? That’s why everyone wants to live here! It’s different!
It’s pretty cold in North Central Florida. I’m wearing a sweater.
Now, if only it would rain.
It’s cold and sleeting here in Colorado Springs today, too. Guess the local NAR shills will use that as their excuse when the April home sales numbers come out.
I love the cat in the video!
I always enjoy your videos, Lou!
Looks like things aren’t so bad there. Must admit, being from California, Houston doesn’t look so bad.
Happy Easter & enjoy the snow!
Boston Globe sees stagflation:
http://tinyurl.com/2t6qnu
The Boston Globe sees no such thing.
In the 70’s wage growth kept people slighty below the inflation curve. Today with globalization withering away at the US job market, and outsourcing continuing at a rapid clip, I don’t see a parallel to the seventies at all or how they can even compare the two. I’d just stick with a “recession” that will take years to unwind until commodity prices and asset prices get significantly lower. That is not “stagflation”, it is “deflation”. Consider all those paper equity dollars that are disapppearing today. The money supply can only be increased by increased borrowing, therefore with credit tighning, there will be the opposit effect as well.
from what we know money supply is increasing at double-digit rates.
Are you sure about thi? From a chart I just looked at its only about 6% YoY (m2).
If asset prices (houses, stocks) deflate but other costs rise (food, energy, health care, education) you are bound to get stagflation. When was the last time the cost of food went down? Also, credit isn’t tightening if you continue to expand the money supply while making a few baby rate hikes, which are now over.
“When was the last time the cost of food went down? ”
And since its been reported that we now import more food than we export, I expect that this will only accelerate as the dollar continues to fall.
Great, a trade deficit in food too. I think its mostly in produce though. It seems like we import all our produce from Mexico these days (there has to be a reason we have a $60B trade deficit with Mexico).
If we start burning corn as ethanol (really stupid) expect the cost of food to take off in a big way.
If illegal drug imports were included in net agricultural trade, I suspect that the US has been a net ag importer for 30+ years.
Gov’t mandated ethanol in gasoline! Everyone stop driving, and keep the price of food down… sadly, I’m not kidding. You can replace your engine with LiOn batteries and plug it in at night (commuter car), or just bike to work like me. Or ride a bus burning ULSD (instead of “biodiesel”–koff, koff). All diesel sold in US is now ULSD, so no worries.
(Yeah, some people with diesel cars burn cooking oil from grease traps, as it’s cheaper and it saves the sewer system, but the exhaust is nasty! Please only do this in the countryside. K’thanks.)
interesting notion, stagflation. We may have to live through some years of decling dollar values;yet, we should also experience some significant IMMIGRATION. But, we need workers here in America, wage workers that are currently shipping overseas for that so-called cheap labor. We ship those same jobs that could be done in the good ole USofA to cheap labor countries.
The overbuilt glut of housing coupled with rampant speculation has allinged the stars with a devastating correction, not “needed” or “healthy”…DEVASTATING.
So, what better way to accomodate our new comrades, citizens, co-workers, than to our brand new Condo-McMasion.
The Condo-McMansion according is going to “set its own market” , according to some architect.
I was gonna write something about the new Green House Condo-Hotel……has something to do with growing food.
Ben: will I see you at this
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/com/307520797.html
“Department of Peace”? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Maybe if these wealthy cheapskates would part with a few extra dollars they could hire American workers. Well, looks like the costs of home ownership just went up in Wanabee World.
Visa denials hit hard in the Hamptons
Year after year, Dune Management depends on dozens of Dominican and Jamaican housekeeping and laundry workers to get through the summer season in the Hamptons. But this year, federal officials surprised the company when they denied temporary visas for the workers.
Tish Rehill, the owner of Gardeneering in Southampton, submitted a petition for 42 workers from Mexico. She was denied certification as a seasonal business, although landscaping is generally classified as such.
“It’s a nightmare this year,” Rehill said. “It’s like, ‘You’re denied. Try again next year. ‘”
http://tinyurl.com/239hab
We’ve touched on this before. If I had a quarter for every time I see two little white kids in a double stroller being pushed by a Hispanic or Caribbean woman I would have enough to buy any shack I wanted. New York City is filled with these sightings. That’s what happens when rich jerks can afford fertility treatments but don’t want to actually raise the little brats. Bring in the foreigners to be the caregivers.
By hiring illegals they get beautiful inexpensive gardens and stone walls. And a nearby town gets blighted. God forbid any of the illegals’ kids try and attend school with the brats of the wealthy that bring them in.
Limousine Liberal from Wikipedia:
In the 1970s, the term was applied to wealthy liberal supporters of open-housing and school busing. In Boston, Massachusetts, supporters of busing, such as Senator Edward Kennedy and Judge Arthur Garrity, both sent their children to private schools or lived in affluent suburbs. To some South Boston residents, Garrity’s support of a plan that “integrated” their children with blacks and his apparent unwillingness to do the same with his own children, seemed like hypocrisy.
By the late 1990s and early 21st century, the term has also come to be applied to those who purport to support environmentalist or “green” goals, such as mass transit, yet still drive large SUVs or literally have a limousine and driver. This term is also applied to those who support other liberal beliefs, such as gun control, but don’t practice them themselves. For example, Rosie O’Donnell is a staunch supporter of strict gun control laws, yet insists her own bodyguards carry a concealed weapon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limousine_liberal
I wonder what you call those annoying Prius drivers who think their farts smell like sunshine and roses and drone on about “carbon neutral” as if they had any f***ing clue what they were talking about?
Disclosure: I ride a bicycle to work. F*** hybrids, they’re just internal combustion autos which pollute slightly less in stop and go traffic. THAT’S ALL.
PS–The people who should buy hybrids, eg taxi companies and others who drive daily for an hour or more in stop and go urban traffic, never buy them. F— them too. I hope your health insurance premiums and taxes go up to cover the care for all the little kids who get asthma because of your polluting asses.
It’s not just illegals, it’s H1Bs also. The wages are depressed by wage arbitrage both overseas and inside the country. Such is life.
SOUTHAMPTON TO CREATE A DAY LABOR HIRING CENTER
Issue #2- April 6, 2007
By Dan Rattiner
Last Friday, after listening to the arguments on all sides, Mayor Mark Epley of Southampton Village made the decision to create a formal hiring center for day laborers in that village. Southampton Village, with funding provided by public spirited residents, church groups and other non-profits, will create a place where building contractors can drive up and hire day laborers every day. It will be located in the vacant lot that the Village owns next to the Southampton 7-Eleven on North Sea Road, a spot, along with several other places in town, where the unemployed already congregate looking for work for the day.
This is surely one of the most difficult decisions made by any public official in our community in years. Passions run very high on this issue, on both sides. Nevertheless, it was felt that something had to be done, and the Mayor has decided to do it.
The situation is that much of the difficult and low paying work done in this town, indeed across the country, is now being done by immigrants from Central and South America, both legal and illegal. An estimated twenty million of them have come to this country. And to allow them in was a decision made over the last twenty years by our government, during both Republican and Democratic administrations. The labor these people provide at the price they ask has allowed America to successfully compete on the business stage around the world. It has apparently been the judgement of our leaders that turning the other way at our southern border so these people could come in was in our economic interest.
In any case, they are here.
No building will be constructed on this hiring site. Instead, there will be benches and a temporary bathroom, a U shaped driveway up which employers can drive to hire the men and women, and, surrounding it all, a thick row of evergreen trees. The site will be monitored by the Village and employees hired by religious and humanitarian organizations. Very little expense will be borne by the Village.
“I’m not the INS or the IRS,” the Mayor said, referring to the immigration service and the income tax service. “My responsibility is to my residents.”
Epley believes that having this site will put an end to the day laborers standing around elsewhere in town.
Apparently, Mayor Epley made his decision about the hiring site after returning from Jupiter, Florida, a town he flew to at his own expense, to see a hiring site they have there and determine if such a thing could work here. Other hiring sites have been started in many other places around the country, including here on Long Island in Glen Cove, Huntington Station and Freeport.
Hopefully, this burst of immigration will now come to an end. It appears that the present administration is moving to do so by tightening up our borders and making a serious effort to deport anyone here illegally who has a criminal record.
http://www.danspapers.com/
I’ve never been to The Hamptons, but I know of The Hamptons. And what I know of the place, a 7-Eleven is far from what I envisioned, let alone a lot set aside to hire day laborers. Interesting. In the article posted by Wes above, one of the comments suggested hiring Long Island college students….what a novel idea. To think that they choose not to support employment of students or other American citizens is really sad. One of the arguments (for housekeepers, for example) is that Americans don’t want to do that kind of work. But then how to you explain businesses like Molly Maids? Schools for bartenders (a LOT of college students chomp at the bit for these jobs)? And I recently read a very long article about a 60-something year old Caucasian women (U.S. citizen) who fancy’s herself as a professional servant and takes pride in her work. She and her husband move around a because of her position but it did not present a problem for them. Links are below, along with other related links.
Peggy Gardiner, 61 year old “professional servant” (see caption under her picture)
http://tinyurl.com/yqhfts
http://www.starkeyintl.com/publicspeaking.html
http://www.laborfair.com/index.php
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/04/california_repo.html
BayQT~
For the first time ever, more poor Americans live in the suburbs than in all our cities combined.
http://tinyurl.com/2bp7pe
Percent non-Hispanic white by state from the 2000 census.
The areas at the top have some of the biggest housing bubbles. I’m not sure what variables are driving what, but in many cases it seems warmer climate makes for greater bubbling.
23% Hawaii
28% District of Columbia
45% New Mexico
47% California
52% Texas
61% Mississippi
62% New York
62% Maryland
63% Louisiana
63% Georgia
64% Arizona
65% Nevada
65% Florida
66% New Jersey
66% South Carolina
68% Alaska
68% Illinois
70% Virginia
70% North Carolina
70% Alabama
73% Delaware
74% Oklahoma
74% Colorado
77% Connecticut
79% Michigan
79% Arkansas
79% Washington
79% Tennessee
82% Massachusetts
82% Rhode Island
83% Kansas
84% Oregon
84% Missouri
84% Ohio
84% Pennsylvania
85% Utah
86% Indiana
87% Nebraska
87% Wisconsin
88% Idaho
88% South Dakota
88% Minnesota
89% Wyoming
89% Kentucky
90% Montana
92% North Dakota
93% Iowa
95% West Virginia
95% New Hampshire
96% Vermont
97% Maine
http://www.censusscope.org/us/rank_race_nonhispaniclatino_white.html
I read this as “VISA card denials” at first. Heh heh, maxed out UAWs facing the music at last. Such sweet, sweet music it is (or will be).
Looks like the greedy of Sedona haven’t gotten the message yet. Incredible price
http://flagstaff.craigslist.org/rfs/306997863.html
Nearly $300,000 for less than 1/2 acre in desert wasteland? Maybe New York City isn’t overpriced. WTF.
You can buy three acres near the same kind of view in West Virginia for about $25,000 and it’s not arid.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r9/mnf/sp/senrcks_txt.html
If you don’t mind having cousin-marryin’, two-headed inbred Jeds as neighbors.
A lot of affluent folks from Wash, DC have discovered the area.
“A lot of affluent folks from Wash, DC have discovered the area.”
And most are clueless idiots who created the very mess they attempted to escape from…..
PS… you sound like a happytalk realtwhore.
“PS… you sound like a happytalk realtwhore”
OK Jed.
I use to think the LendingTree advert was funny because of Stanley Johnson. Now, I have a new reason to lmao. Although Stanley is ‘in debt up to his eye balls,’ at the end of the advert, LendingTree’s call to action is a refi.
For all the Californicators investing in TX:
http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/HB02207I.htm
[...] the person provides the purchaser and each lienholder a written disclosure statement in at least 12-point type that:
[...](4) indicates whether the lienholder has consented to the transfer of the property to the purchaser.
Would anyone care to speculate on the effects of this legislation if it’s enacted?
It would seem to enable lienholders to block a sale if the property is to be sold to a non-creditworthy party? Or possibly intended to give the lienholder some leverage in getting paid in full prior to a property sale? Do any other states have similar legislation already passed?
This is from an article on a family owned foreclosure business in San Diego,
“Weichelt explains it’s their job to get as much money for the lender as they can. The last time the foreclosures business boomed was in the mid-1990s, after the last real estate bust. Then, banks had to unload the properties at “50 cents on the dollar, fire sale” prices, Weichelt explains. Now, at least while foreclosures are still at relatively low rates, the lenders are hoping to get top dollar for the properties.”
http://tinyurl.com/39tcq5
So much for those in the REIC who say prices did not drop so much in the last downturn.
“He says, though his first boss told him it’s best to “keep your Porsche in the garage” when dealing with clients, he doesn’t find that his line of work clashes with his car.
“Some of these people can’t even afford to keep their lights on and I’m rolling up in a car that could probably pay off their house,” he says. “But it hasn’t been an issue before.”
Just wait. These guys will be wearing Kevlar and driving Pinto’s soon. Somebody getting it in the sweet end is gonna take exception to a Prestige-Car-Driving Ahole kicking them out of their house.
Paul
There is nothing wrong with your investment
Do not attempt to adjust the loan
We are controlling your submisssion
If we wish to make it harder
We will bring up the interest rates
If we wish to make it softer
We will tune it down a whisper
We can reduce the economy to a soft blur
Or take it down with crystal clarity
We control your horizontal sized lot
We control your vertical sized house
For the next couple of years
Sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear
You are about to experience the awe and mystery
Which reaches from the interest rates to…
The Subprime Limits…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Outer_Limits
“Weichelt explains …prices, Weichelt explains.”
Other than the fact that whomever wrote this failed out of Community College J-School, that’s a pretty shocking number … If we see 50% drops in housing prices there are going to be people in their late 50s who bought a house during the heights of the bubble that might not break even until long after retirement … Assuming they can keep their house that long … It is certainly going to be ugly.
Hey guys, I’m looking to rent in Jersey City for this coming August. My job at NYC starts in Oct. I’m going to live in NJ to avoid the 3.5% city earnings tax and the higher NY State tax. (A lot of people who think the world ends at the edge of Manhattan waterfront think I’m completely out of my mind).
Interesting findings though. I’m looking at a lot of CL’s listings and get a definite sense that many of the owner who tries to rent these properties are underwater FB’s trying to float. What do you guys think? (Notice all these listings are “by owner”)
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/abo/306722973.html
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/abo/306724703.html
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/abo/306725915.html
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/abo/306727585.html
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/abo/307082131.html
We’ve thought about Jersey City. But every time we go over there we realize there is just nothing to do. You will be living and dying by the PATH. Do you plan to buy/keep a car? Getting rid of that anchor is the biggest savings one gets when living in New York City. I am glad to be free of the shackles of that depreciating asset.
Good luck in Jersey City. You will definitely have a nicer place for the money than what you would find in a decent Manhattan neighborhood. Be careful if you take the PATH to Christopher Street. I don’t like that little corner. A lot of shady characters hang out around that stop.
I agree with NYCBoy. Have you thought about Hoboken?
I did. Hoboken rent is getting pretty close to Manhattan anyway. The nice thing is that the ferry literally takes me from JC to the door of my office at Wall St. in 7 min. I won’t be taking PATH in the morning and at night the firm will have a car to drive me home.
I don’t plan to own a car either, unless my parents decide to buy a new one and just sell me their old one at a good price. I figure I can tough it out in JC for a year or two, pay off the portion of my student loans that has a floating rate (primte rate - .25%), which amounts to about 120k. (The other part is gov. sub. loan, so it’s fixed at 3.25%. I’m going to take full 30 years to pay that one off).
That’s a serious student loans balance.
He can pay it off with his first million dollar bonus check from da firm. No worries.
I think you are making a mistake about the state taxes… if you work in New York state, even if you live outside, you pay NY state taxes… I think you can then deduct them from what is due outside, or the other way around… You are correct however about the city taxes, at present there is no commuter tax equivalent, although there was one.
Remarks by Governor Frederic S. Mishkin
At the Annual Macro Conference, Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco, San Francisco, California
March 23, 2007
“However, the historical record suggests that permanently lowering inflation expectations may require keeping monetary policy tight for a substantial period, resulting in considerable output and employment losses for a time.
I think these considerations leave us with fairly wide bounds on what the costs might be of permanently shifting long-run inflation expectations that are already anchored. On the one hand, the historical record gives us little reason to think the costs would be as minimal as the simplest models with rational expectations might suggest. On the other hand, overly pessimistic estimates have proved to be wrong in the past.”
http://tinyurl.com/2zc3cl
Federal Reserve
All have a great weekend! Time to go fishing.
~ Housing update in Palm Beach County ~
My girlfriend’s home actually closed yesterday! I have to thank the fellow members of this blog for their sage advice on how to sell into a tanking market.
The property is a 1350 square foot townhouse. It was listed in October of last year for $289K, at the bottom end of the price range at the time (I suggested $269K, but the real estate agent thought he knew better). At the beginning of the year, the price was lowered to $279K, and then finally to $269K. Winter is the start of “season” in South Florida, and it was hoped that the price reduction would attract a starry-eyed snowbird. A couple from Illinois did submit an offer close to the asking price, but it was contingent on the sale of their home in Illinois.
Two months later, the Illinois couple still had not sold their home (do people actually buy homes in Illinois when they’re under a foot of snow?). While my girlfriend always thought the offer was dubious, she and I discussed the matter and decided that the offer was really a “wish” and not an offer at all. Consequently, my girlfriend opted to lower the price by another $20K and list the house as “by motivated seller”.
Within three days, my girlfriend received an offer close to the asking price by a qualified buyer with good credit and financing. Evidently this buyer had tried to purchase another house in the area, but the deal fell through because the buyer had not made mortgage payments for the last 6 months and could not afford to bring the cash required to close!
Both my girlfriend and I wanted to reduce the price more aggressively, but I think we gave too much credence to the real estate agent, who thought that a snowbird would walk through the house and buy it at any price. Nonetheless, our strategy was to always be the lowest-price home in the community, and we continually scoured the MLS to make sure the house was priced at the low end.
In mid-2005, other townhomes in this community were selling in the low $300K range. I would assert with confidence that prices have dropped at least 20% since then, but so few homes are selling that it is impossible to make a claim. There are more than a dozen homes on the market, and so far this year, only two have sold. Most sellers are still stuck in the mid-2005 mindset, oddly enough. We did see one house that was purchased for around $320K in 2005 listed at $235K, so I don’t think there is a lot of joy in mudville.
Anyway, three weeks later the house closed and my girlfriend is no longer anchored by the housing bust. She had a migraine yesterday, but as soon as the migraine subsides we are going to have one heck of a snoopie dance!
“In mid-2005, other townhomes in this community were selling in the low $300K range. I would assert with confidence that prices have dropped at least 20% since then, but so few homes are selling that it is impossible to make a claim.”
Excellent observation, and you make a point which is not widely understood, which is that it is not possible (using currently available statistical methods such as median home price or even CSW indexes) to assess the market value of homes in places where they are not selling.
At present, it may not be easy to “assess the market value of homes in places where they are not selling.”
On the other hand, if you want to envision the state of the current market in many locales, just think back to David Letterman about 15 years go, and recall what gravity did to those watermelons he tossed off that tower in New Rochelle.
That is an apt description of what the market will be like for those who are forced to sell when the bid-asked spread is a vast chasm opened wide by the subprime implosion.
Here in the “Alt-A Bay Area”, it would be unwise to bet against an Alt-A meltdown as well.
It seems that what we need is the mortgage equivalent of a seismic hazard map for San Diego. How hard would it be to collect data per zip code for percentages of prime, Alt-A, and subprime financing? I’m not really interested in the SD zips where NODs and foreclosures are really spiking already, and it would be nice to know how long the wait might be for zip codes of interest.
I noticed on the IRS web site that one can pay his/her taxes using a credit card. Out of curiousity I went to one of those sponsored sites, pay1040, which incidentally is a partner of HR Block (what a surprise). Why not get some air miles while paying taxes? Bad idea. The “convenience” fee is 2.49%!!! So, out of an amount of $5000, this would represent a charge of $124.50… Who in their right mind would do that? A FB is the ideal candidate since he/she has no savings. Thus a fee is paid to pay taxes, that end up on a CC balance on which interests and fees are very likely to be paid over the next months or years (don’t forget we are talking about a FB here). The CC balance would then end up on a heloc… Wash and rinse. What a scam.
Who in their right mind would do that?
Somebody with 10% back during tax season, eg, me.
Sadly, I can only get back $100 (so pay only $1000), but hey I’ll take it.
I’m not in trouble here… the Newspaper told me so:
DEAR BOB: I bought my house in December 2005, financing 100 percent of the purchase with two mortgages. The house has been nothing but trouble. It was built in 1985. The so-called professional home inspector failed to point out that the water heater was original and that the attic air conditioner installed in 2003 was improperly installed, causing ceiling damage. What are my chances of unloading this house without losing my shirt? Property values in my area are holding steady. — Carey A.
DEAR CAREY: Your problems don’t sound too serious. I presume you have replaced the 20-year-old water heater and corrected the problem with the air conditioner.
It is virtually impossible to resell any house at a break-even price after only a year’s ownership without losing money after considering such costs as the realty sales commission and transfer expenses.
Why sell? This current “buyer’s market” in most cities is not a good time to sell unless you have a highly motivating reason, such as an out-of-town job transfer. Make the best of your zero-down mortgage financing and wait to sell until you have built up equity by paying down the mortgage balances.
Even in the best of real estate times, it takes three to five years of home ownership to at least break even when selling. That’s why home buyers should not purchase unless they plan to stay at least five years.
“Even in the best of real estate times, it takes three to five years of home ownership to at least break even when selling. That’s why home buyers should not purchase unless they plan to stay at least five years.”
and it takes even longer when the idiot newspaper guy tells me to ride the market down.
Dear Carey,
Welcome to the worst next ten years of your life!
Foreclosure State of the Weekend: Florida
http://www.foreclosure.com/state/fl.html
HOLY SH*T - Tax liens, Preforeclosures, Foreclosures…OUCH
And the insurance premiums. Who wants out now??
PHX inventory @ 58,189 this morning. Any bets on 60K by May 1?
Outstanding!! I think that 60K is “in the bag”.
Inventory over the last two months in 10536 (Katonah, NY) in Westchester County. Not sure what to make of it yet. I’m still waiting for the buildup to occur.
87 2/5/07
92 2/12/07
97 2/21/07
91 2/27/07
84 3/6/07
87 3/12/07
91 3/21/07
92 3/29/07
87 4/7/07
Are you looking to buy there, Palisades?
Just looking.
Daily Reckoning Part II
“Groups demand foreclosure moratorium.”
The groups are the usual suspects - world improvers representing the poor
struggling masses. What these masses tried to do in the last few years was
to buy houses without bothering to save up the money for them. Naturally,
the lenders took advantage of them (no one is easier to swindle than a
swindler), by extending them credit on terms that did them no favor. And
pretty soon, everyone was in on it. The borrower asks for his “liar’s
loan” by telling a fib about how much he owned. The appraiser gently
inflated the value of the place so the deal could be made. The lender
saddled the borrower with a mortgage that was sure to bring him back in a
year or two, so the mortgage company could make another fat fee
refinancing the loan. And then, there was the whole structure of Wall
Street, packaging the loans up in tidy derivatives and pronouncing them
creditworthy for pension funds.
And all of these people were quoting their prices, and toting their
figures, in a currency whose standards have been on a steep downhill slide
for the last 32 years. The U.S. dollar, in 2007, is worth only about 20
cents…compared to the dollar of 1971. And lately, there is reason to
think the incline will become even steeper. The U.S. government’s official
debt is increasing at a record rate of $80 million every hour.
Dollar-based credits and obligations are piling up outside of the United
States (as measured by the trade deficit) at the rate of $2 billion every
day. And all over the world, “Dark Pools” of liquidity threaten to turn
the dollar’s descent into a giant water slide.
One fraud leads to another. Gradually, slowly, unwittingly we get so deep
into them that we can’t see out. And in this swamp of mendacity, the truth
seems out of place, like an honest man in a Senate race.
We find, for example, that “Sub-prime trickles down to area businesses,”
according to the Orange County Register. Well, what did you expect, dear
reader? Standards are falling everywhere…and nobody’s money is safe:
I have a friend that’s done pretty well in real estate for the past 20 years and he’s planning on selling his New England home and buying in Austin, TX where he says there’s a housing boom. He gave me a google maps tour of where he has been looking and told me about the economic growth there. He’s an engineer that can work anywhere he wants to and he has a big salary and is single.
For those down in the area, are things really booming in Austin to generate higher housing prices even as prices deflate in cities that are only an hour away?
He will be sorry. There has been much overbuilding here (esp. on the outskirts), and the central Texas landscape is littered with 20-year old skeletons of real estate speculators. Remember: in Texas, they _are_ still making more land. There is empty ranch land as far as the eye can see. Any high-end real estate will eat you alive on property taxes. And any new jobs in central Texas are in tech (cyclical/ephemeral/poof… wait until the next recession and you can’t find a U-haul around here).
But let him give it a try… it’s nice here if you enjoy the daily 100+ degree heat in the summer.
He’s going to live in New England for six months and in Austin for six months but his work is in New England and our group has been around since the early 1980s.
I think that he is looking at the middle; not the high-end.
I agree 100% with michael. Austin’s economy may be doing OK right now, but it is not very diverse, and so if Dell, AMD, Intel and other tech companies businesses start going south, the city will take a huge hit.
Another thing to keep in mind is that salaries in Austin are very low; professional jobs that pay $60K to $80K in Austin pay 30% to 50% more in places like Dallas and Houston, eventhough the cost of living in Austin is higher.
If he’s interested in living in-town, near U.T. and the State Capitol and Whole Foods, I might have some options for him to know about. Have him contact me at psylake@comcast.net.
He did look at a place near Whole Foods but apparently there’s a ton of construction (towers) planned in the area and he didn’t want to deal with the noise. He likes to work on a porch looking out at water or mountains or greenery. He said he was impressed by the food court at WFMI.
He has an offer in for a place at the foot of some hills with a relative that has a house nearby.
Here is a local news report video regarding the suspect North Texas fires and doomed Ceder Hills (?) projects there were discusssed here yesterday.
Not sure if already posted
http://www.wfaa.com/video/wfaageneral-index.html?nvid=133491&shu=1
From Bankrate:
10 highest priced U.S. housing markets in 2006
Surprise, surprise, five of the top ten are in California.
Yikes!
“San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos, Calif. $601,800″
This is what San Diegans selling SFRs are pricing off — the ziprealty.com median list price has been stuck (for months on end) in the $599,000 - $600,000 range.
Nothing wrong with feel-good untruths. I’ve been celebrating my 29th birthdays for the past 29 years.
Excellent analysis of American Home Mortgage’s ALT-A earnings warning late Friday. The nerve of them releasing on a day the market is closed. I hope the MSM picks this up. The ALT-A slide has begun in earnest.
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/
Hilarious - economics PhD gy taken to the cleaners by Nigerian scammers: sdcia thread
Hilarious - economics PhD guy taken to the cleaners by Nigerian scammers: sdcia thread
Not surprising the mark intended to use his windfall to “invest” in real estate, and is now in danger of foreclosure. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
The same Ron Starr who posted this is a senior, longtime member of the SDCIA forum. On 7/24/05 he had this to say to a flopped flipper in the “Losing My Shirt in Tuson” thread:
“if you ARE NOT personally responsible for the loan, I’d suggest the following approach. Deed the property over to somebody who does not care about their credit report. Perhaps a minor, a derelict, a very elderly person who never buys on credit, somebody else who does not care. Make sure that you “sales agreement” makes you responsible for the ownership expenses so you will be able to deduct them from your taxes. Then rent out the property for as much rent as you can. After a few months, stop paying the mortgage and let the property go to foreclosure. Later you have “credible deniability” for the loan. That is, you can explain to credit granters that you were not responsible for the new owner’s having defaulted on the loan.”
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/sdcia/vpost?id=1205179
Is it just me, or was ol’ Ron blatantly advising the FB flipper to commit mortgage fraud?
Unbelievable.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/01/25/treasurer_accused/
This may be too late in the day to get responses, but does anyone have thoughts on where to keep money for the next couple of years? It goes without saying on this blog that real estate is out (although I don’t intend to sell my home …) , stocks could be at risk if the economy has broader troubles, bonds no good for either defaults or rising rates, so does that just leave cash? Any other good ideas?
Yes give it all to me. I only charge a 30% management fee
Seriously you could buy bonds but only ones of short duration.
It depends on how much money you have and have much risk you want to take on playing a downside market.
Take a look on this site for an investment primer http://www.streettalklive.com/
6-month TBills.
5+% interest, exempt from state income tax.
Not exciting, but not a bad option until something compelling comes along. I just don’t see anything in stocks, real estate, etc. that is attractively priced right now.
Try Series I bonds. Exempt from state income tax. Better than T-bills in that you do not have to pay the federal tax until you redeem them or 30 years, whichever is first. With T-bills, you get a gain at 6 months, and you are taxed on that gain. Think about this multiplier effect. You can be taxed on the same investment 30 times, or you can be taxed on it once at 30 years. Major difference. The tax advantage probably kicks in at 5 years of owning the I-bond versus reinvesting into T-bills that same period. Depends on the interest rate. So far my accumulative interest on my 2001 I bonds is over 35%. I also like municipal bonds. They are usually tax free. However I do buy T-bills, Series I savings bonds, and municipal bonds every month. I’m limiting my T-bills to an amount that would give me 4 months of upper middle class living expenses. Beyond that, the excess will go into EE savings bonds. Tax deferral is a major thing for me since I do not want to pay for the idiotic social engineering programs by this current crop of creepy socialists running Congress.