The Market Is Just Flooded In Florida
The Palm Beach Post reports from Florida. “April’s existing-home sales report released Friday dashed all hope that the spring selling season would pull the local real estate market out of its post-boom doldrums. The inventory of unsold homes from Boca Raton to Hobe Sound soared to a stunning 43-month supply in April, according to Illustrated Properties Real Estate.”
“In Palm Beach County, the median price of an existing single-family home fell to $376,300 in April from $386,500 a year ago, the Realtors association said. In the Treasure Coast, the median price dropped to $239,700 from $258,000.”
“Statewide, existing-home sales fell a dismal 26 percent, while the median price of an existing home in Florida dropped 4 percent to $236,000, the association said.”
“‘We’re going to see some downward pressure on those properties that weren’t priced properly to start with,’ said Ellen Bitton, CEO of Park Avenue Mortgage in Palm Beach.”
The St Petersburg Times. “Realtors couldn’t sell Paul Swisher’s house. Maybe his rhapsodies will. Frustrated by a home on the market for nearly 15 months, the St. Petersburg resident has taken a new tack to attract potential buyers: a 3-by-4 whiteboard on his lawn.”
“‘Hey, what’s up with this?’ he wrote this week. ‘Do I have to hit somebody over the head with a brick? This is a truly beautiful home. Are you going to force me to stand out here in a clown suit?’”
“The answer may be ‘yes’ if housing numbers released Friday are any indication. In the Tampa Bay area, the number of existing homes sold in April plunged 35 percent from April 2006, and 56 percent compared with April 2005, during the housing bubble that’s now a fading memory.”
“Since listing his house in March 2006, he’s dropped the price by $86,000 from $425,000, which his Realtor recommended, to $339,000. He’s also gotten rid of the Realtor.”
“Swisher hopes that a ‘For Sale’ flag he just ordered, which he’ll hang from the 20-foot flagpole in his yard, will attract some inquiries, too.”
The New York Times. “As dozens of condominium towers conceived during Florida’s real estate boom near completion, investors who snatched up units in the preconstruction phase in hopes of turning a quick profit are increasingly trying to break contracts, even walking away from fat deposits.”
“‘I get two or three of these calls a day,’ said James Ryan, a lawyer in Boca Raton who said he had 40 clients looking to get out of condo contracts. One, Mr. Ryan said, abandoned a $340,000 deposit rather than close on a $1.6 million unit that lost its appeal as the market faltered.”
“‘I see buyers unleashing all possible means to try to get out of contracts,’ said Gary Saul, a lawyer in Miami for developers, adding that in some projects, 20 percent of buyers want their money back.”
“Tom Leon said he planned to give up $200,000 in deposits on two condo units in Miami, priced at $500,000 each, after finding ‘no loopholes’ in his contracts. He said he was not especially bitter, since he had made money flipping other properties at the height of the boom.”
“‘There are some people that mentally can never bring themselves around to that, especially in real estate. But there’s a time to hold and a time to fold, and in my opinion, this is a time to fold,’ said Mr. Leon, adding that he never had any intention of living in either of the units.”
From TC Palm. “Sales of existing homes in Indian River County continued to slide last month, as prices inched down. ‘I wish it was better, but it could be worse,’ said Karen Hall, president of the Realtors Association of Indian River County.”
“Sales were off 18 percent while the median price of existing homes fell 7.5 percent to $217,400 from April 2006.”
“‘My fear is that a lot of people are not lowering their price because they can’t,’ said Brad Hunter, director of West Palm Beach-based Metrostudy. ‘There is no negotiating room left.’”
The Sun Sentinel. “The spring home-selling season is proving to be a misnomer. Many buyers are holding off. They’re waiting for prices to keep falling, experts say.”
“New data released Friday shows that sales of existing homes in Palm Beach County dropped 17 percent last month from a year ago, according to the Florida Association of Realtors. The county’s median price was $376,300, a decline of $10,200 from $386,500 a year ago.”
“‘Home builders have dropped their prices like a rock,’ said consultant Brad Hunter. ‘People can buy a home discounted by $100,000 or $150,000.’”
“Palm Beach County had about 36,000 properties on the market at the end of April, up almost 30 percent from a year ago and triple the number from 2005, according to Keyes Co.”
From Florida Today. “Daryl Adkins hopes the end of the school year means an ample pool of willing buyers in Brevard in the next month or so, and that the three-bedroom Indialantic home he is trying to sell will catch someone’s eye.”
“After two years and a couple of price reductions without a buyer, Adkins is hopeful, but not too confident. ‘I think houses are selling,’ Adkins said. ‘The problem is there is just too many of them. The market is just flooded.’”
“Adkins purchased his home for $245,000, and did extensively remodeling to the property. His initial asking price was $329,000, although he has reduced it to $233,000.”
“Gary Corbett of Melbourne also isn’t getting a whole lot of buzz for his three-bedroom home, which he has listed for $225,000. That’s also a lower price than what he originally was asking.”
“He’s not confident that he’ll sell the house any time soon, but that doesn’t worry him. ‘I’m not in a hurry,’ Corbett said. If it doesn’t sell, I can stay here. It’s just a lot of house for one person.’”
The Miami Herald. “South Florida home sales suffered through their slowest April in at least 10 years, dropping 37 percent from a year ago. Prices mostly inched up, although Broward condominiums sold for 8 percent less than they did in April 2006.”
“The condo market is cold. Sales dropped 22 percent in Broward to 683 units and 30 percent in Miami-Dade to 722 units. The demand drop cut into prices in Broward, as the typical unit went for $197,800, about $17,000 less than in April 2006.”
“Single-family home sales plunged compared to a year ago: down 16 percent in Broward to 580 houses and down 37 percent in Miami-Dade to 531. Those are the lowest April numbers recorded on the Realtor group’s website, which contains data back to 1997.”
The Herald Tribune. “Pat Neal, president of Neal Communities, has seen changes in the market. ‘Our May results are better than May of 2004, 2005 and 2006,’ Neal said.”
“The average price for one of Neal’s homes is down about $125,000 since the market softened early last year.”
“‘Because underwriting standards are much more difficult now, many of the lower priced homes may well find their way back onto the market through foreclosure,’ he said.”
“Amanda Stark of Fort Myers, and her husband, Bill Berry, bought their three-bedroom house a year ago for $229, 000, with a subprime mortgage and no downpayment. The interest rates were steep: 8.75 percent on 80 percent of the mortgage, and 11.25 percent on the other 20 percent. ‘Every time I say it,’ Stark said, ‘it just kills me.’”
“‘We thought, ‘For two years, we’ll struggle and get by, and after two years, we’ll refinance,’ said Stark.”
“But Berry, a carpenter, has had a hard time finding work since the housing market slowed. They’d been paying $1,000 a month in rent; now, they’ve got an $1,800-per-month mortgage, and another $600 in property taxes and insurance. ‘This could be a farewell party, too,’ Stark said.”
Woohoo!!! Florida houses for everyone!!!
Howdy, Greenlander! Where ya been?
The Gambler
You got to know when to hold em, know when to fold em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run.
That guy Tom Leon seems to know that and is cutting his losses. Or preserving his gains.
This is one long article indicating accelerating problems in Floriduh.
I noticed that, too. Leon seems to be a real player, one of the big boys who can afford to walk away. He’s like his own hedge fund. Real speculators always bet with money they can afford to lose.
Agreed - but it’s not out of the question that builder could come after him to take ownership…unless the contract allows him to walk without further recourse.
If indeed he is a real player and not just blowing smoke (always a possibility in these times, for all I really know the guy is a bum without even a dollar to his name) he will have ensured that his contract allows him to walk without further recourse. Plus, if I were the builder or developer, I’d be happy with the money he left on the table and wouldn’t bother pursuing it. It’s pretty good profit without having to deliver the product.
Mornin’ Palmetto - I agree Leon is a breath of fresh air in the real estate speculation game. He’s willing to accept the loss and move on, unlike this other guy:
“Since listing his house in March 2006, he’s dropped the price by $86,000 from $425,000, which his Realtor recommended, to $339,000. He’s also gotten rid of the Realtor.”
Sounds like he still has a wishing price…good luck with that billboard. I outta call and offer $250k and see what he says.
Moman!! Howzit going?
Difference between Leon and the wannabes is the wannabes can’t really afford to leave money on the table. In some cases it is their one shot in life to be a “contenduh”. All they end up being is “Duh”.
Two articles from the Sunday Real Estate section (out today).
Sub headline for the front page story on Foreclosures in the boroughs;
“Many New Yorkers are struggling to pay their mortgages. Luckily, the market is strong enough that they can sell if they have to.”
And on the very next page:
“It’s Spring. Somebody Tell the Buyers”
Somebody tell the Editors to read their own newspaper.
I think it’s been discussed here a million times that the “profession” of journalism has hit the rocks. They should be embarassed. It’s funny how newspapers blame the Internet for all of their problems. The record companies are doing the same thing. They don’t want to admit that their problems might be the result of creating endless amounts of crap.
For our eyes we have these types of stupid articles and for our ears we have rap, hip-hop and the world’s biggest Karaoke contest called American Idol. Yes sir, it must be the Internet that is causing all of your problems.
“They don’t want to admit that their problems might be the result of creating endless amounts of crap.”
Wow, you are really testifying today, NYC. I’ve been thinking the same thing with respect to the media. It has gotten particularly bad over the years since 2000. People vote with their ears and eyeballs, too. Leno is always joking on the Tonight Show about how NBC’s ratings are in the crapper. For at least a couple of years now. But when you see Brian Williams on the Nightly News pompously delivering all the false spin and spew, it isn’t hard to understand why. People DO turn away. Same thing with our local paper, the Tampa Tribune, which is laying off staff and cutting back. It is very interesting, because I used to tune into the local evening news and now find that I’m often here on the blog at that time, having dinner while I’m reading and posting.
The media thought it could survive by pandering to its advertisers and went for that model in a big, big way. As a result, credibility is gone, so ratings and circulation plunge. Karma always wins out in the end, even though it may not seem that way in the short term. I wonder how some of the journalists, editors and media management will feel when either they or their relatives eat some toxic Chinese food or take a bogus prescription med and either their condition worsens or they even go tits up. If they’re looking for someone to blame, they should stand in front of a mirror.
I like this blog because there’s truth here. And it is also one classy blog as well and has standards. Even if some of my comments don’t make it into the threads, or get deleted, I don’t mind, because then I know I’ve crossed a line I shouldn’t have. It’s possible to speak truth to power without lowering standards.
Although, I find it interesting that while NBC is shilling and spinning, they put on a great show like “My Name Is Earl”. All executives of the network should be forced to watch each and every episode until they get the message. Right now, I’ll bet they don’t even get it. They probably think it’s just a comedy caricature of the white trash they fancy themselves superior to.
Karma rocks! It IS the governing principle of life, IMHO.
palmetto, I was watching an interview with Al Gore on the daily show, and he was talking about the media’s conflict of interest and advertising pressures and such. He said that the internet was helping to get the word out (dissenting opinions) and create momentum. It was the first time I heard a politician make such a strong statement against the news media. You can watch the clip online at comedycentral.com
Good one. Thanks.
Listening to Al Gore and then chimp is not easy!
I think Gore will run and the ‘08 will be Gore v. Thompson. No idea which of those two would win.
“Thompson.”
Tommy or Fred?
Interesting prediction TC. I think that Barcat is sideshow for Hillary, designed to keep the media away from the rest (like hair cut man). But Gore is a real threat, and must scare the daylights out of her. He’s got his own base, and they are as devoted as Charles Manson followers. She can’t hold a candle to that.
As far as the Reps are concerned, maybe Fred, but more like Mitt, as I see it.
You know, sometimes I wonder if it isn’t that newspapers have always been terrible, and now that we have much better sources of news and discussion (such as this blog), we have something to compare content with.
Also, I think Ben does a great service by aggregating the news stories so that we can compare and contrast coverage. It sure makes it easy to notice when a bunch of Realtors are spinning from the same play book. And it also makes it easier to find the few bits where someone breaks from the pack.
Thanks, Ben!
It’s just more obvious today. It wasn’t called Yellow Journalism for nothing.
I have basically eliminated all forms of corporate controlled media from my life. I do not watch local news. (Murders and car chases aren’t my thing.) I do not take a newspaper. I do not listen to news on the radio. I do not get news magazines.
They have all been purged.
I have a select number of web sites that I read. Bill Mahr and the Daily Show give me all the news I need. And this makes me far more informed than anyone else I know. Actually, the gap between me and my friends / family grows every day.
If I had a dollar for every time I mentioned something that people around me had no idea about, I would be a rich man.
Bottom Line: I hope the U.S. news media goes belly up.
The local two crap rags we have, Star Tribune and Pioneer Press have been laying off editors, columnist, reporters by the hundreds…dropping circulation for their elitist pablum…and advertisers that can see it from the drop in circulation figures are leaving by droves.
They can’t even give away the daily editions for free anymore in the grocery stores. They sit. They were even leaving free editions at all our doors for weeks to “improve” circulation with the audit bureaus.
Unless Mainstream Media changes radically and soon and quit being a reinforcement anchor for the “powers that be”, it is done.
Blogs and the internet will supplant it which is in a way a shame since I still like a daily paper but do not want their ideological baggage that comes with it.
You said it, jm.
What particularly annoys me & my better half are the “personal interest” angles. I want the news, not what some dumbsh!t bystander / relative / neighbor / customer thinks about it. Friggin’ waste of my time.
That’s why I tend to watch Brit Hume.
If nothing else, he focuses on politics and foreign affairs. Not a thing on car jackings, Paris Hilton, cats in trees, Lindsay Lohan, etc. What a pleasant relief.
“One, Mr. Ryan said, abandoned a $340,000 deposit rather than close on a $1.6 million unit that lost its appeal as the market faltered.”
That has to leave a bruise.
Probably the same jackass that paid 73M for the Rothko. These people rule the world, they don’t care. Let Unca Sugar eat it.
“The irony is that Rothko—which sounds a bit like a brand name—had invented a new kind of aesthetic commodity. The gaudy winning bid of $72.8 million, the highest ever paid for a work of contemporary art at auction, confirmed Sotheby’s confidence that a Rockefeller Rothko is now the ultimate luxury object.”
“No dubious pedigree there. He had bought it for less than $10,000 in 1960, the year before Rothko’s career-making (and price-hiking) retrospective at the Museum of Modern Art. Rockefeller, who is 91 and chairman emeritus of MoMA, promised to donate the proceeds of the sale to charity.”
I had to Google this. What a joke! That thing is hideous. This is further proof that wealth and brains do not always go together. Suddenly all of this Florida real estate looks like a great bargain.
There was an exhibition of Rothko paintings at the DMA several years ago. I bought the book that went with it at the museum shop for $175. Two years later, sold the book for $500 on Ebay. People will buy anything.
Rothko’s pictures, always two fuzzy-edged rectangles each monochromatic, you could forge in your sleep. I love modern art but want to see some technique (Boccioni, Tanguy, Jacques Lipschitz, etc.)
Yes, relatively simple to execute, but of course, he was the first…
I recall one room either at MoMA or the National Gallery, it was a gallery reserved for Rothko. There was such a feeling of tranquility in that room. (It was mostly his brighter colored pieces.) When they’re grouped, they do have a calming effect.
But who (besides a Rockefeller) could afford to group them?
You just know the real estate industry now HATES the internet, because the truth cannot be exclusively controlled any longer by their self serving shills.
Blogs like this give an accurate & fast account of what is really happening.
(donating 20 shares of Pet.com stock & 4000 Chuck E. Cheese tickets to Ben)
Speaking of blogs does anyone know what ever happened to Florida Paradise Lost blog?
The site owner abruptly stopped posting in March.
Paul Swisher, real estate marketing newb:
“Hey, what’s up with this?” he wrote this week, in purple and green markers. “Do I have to hit somebody over the head with a brick?
It’s the colors of the markers you’re using, Paul. Purple and green are Mardi Gras colors. They’re confusing people. You’re in Florida.
Or maybe this is the hang-up:
Here’s the picture. Investor/Homeowner buys house for $164k in 2001. List for $433k in 2006. Complains about Realtors, Forecasters, High Insurance, Taxes and Politicians. Now lowers price to $339k and mad because the market is sooo down. Hmmm….
This might be the most easy to hate guy in America. He is 60 years old and acting this way. Grow up! That flag he is ordering is sure to do the trick. He wants some sucker to fund his Texas retirement. I hope he chokes on that house. I noticed they didn’t mention how much he owes on the house. I bet it is Heloc’ed to high heaven.
Maybe he should paint his message inside of two monochromatic fuzzy-edged rectangles?
HELP! BUY MY HOUSE!
HELOCed TO THE MAX!
Got 10% down?
The St Petersburg Times. “Realtors couldn’t sell Paul Swisher’s house. Maybe his rhapsodies will. Frustrated by a home on the market for nearly 15 months, the St. Petersburg resident has taken a new tack to attract potential buyers: a 3-by-4 whiteboard on his lawn.”
“‘Hey, what’s up with this?’ he wrote this week. ‘Do I have to hit somebody over the head with a brick? This is a truly beautiful home. Are you going to force me to stand out here in a clown suit?’”
Being part of the Lereah/NAR REIC Bros Circus, YOU in a CLOWN SUIT, would be most appropriate
A funny tiny jalopy with gang of small trained dogs might also improve your chances for a Crowd if your BagHolder Show of Desperation is Good.
Being an Idiot is no guarrantee of selling your over-priced POS and Mileage will vary depending on GREED !
“‘Hey, what’s up with this?’ he wrote this week. ‘Do I have to hit somebody over the head with a brick? This is a truly beautiful home. Are you going to force me to stand out here in a clown suit?’”
He’s more likely to get money that way than by selling his still-overpriced house. So I guess this is the new paradigm!
I like the clown suit idea. Either that or a hitting someone over the head with a brick. I guess either of these choices beat a substantial price drop to reflect current market realities.
I was in Plant City at the Strawberry Festival about ten years ago and they had the best clown sitting in at the dunk tank. He was taunting the participants, saying among other things “lay off the Burger King,” and “I’ve seen better arms on a chair.” That only made them madder, and the anger-charged throws tended to be way off.
If Paul Swisher put himself in that position I’d buy a few throws. Still wouldn’t buy his house, though.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son.
Ahhh, Dean Wormer, I think. Can you see the pencils hanging out of my nose?
“Since listing his house in March 2006, he’s dropped the price by $86,000 from $425,000, which his Realtor recommended, to $339,000. He’s also gotten rid of the Realtor.”
BWAHAHAHAA! This is rich. Seller reduced to wearing a clown suit (oddly appropriate) and a clueless greedy realtor bounced after trying and failing to get a wish price. Maybe Mr. Realtor can boil the leather steering-wheel cover on his BMW and eat it if he’s really hard up. The house, meanwhile, goes unsold, despite deep [but not deep enough] cuts. The desperation is becoming palpable, and delusions are being dispelled every day. Lots of FBs and greedheads dying a death of a thousand cuts as reality imposes itself, not a minute too soon. Remember, FBs, it takes a big man to cry, but a bigger man to laugh at that man.
Time for another donation to Ben. As cheap entertainment goes, this is as good as it gets, not to mention the incredible wealth of useful information that appears every day on this blog.
I think he should fly his flag a half-mast as a show of respect to all his fellow fallen flippers.
If my neighbors wouldn’t slash my iires I would begin posting these aricles on all he for sale signs….
Maybe don’t post them on signs, but you could stick them in those grab boxes they put outside with the listing flier inside.
They think the market in Florida is “flooded” now, just give it a couple of months.
Anyone else think there is going to be a bank run at Coast Financial Holdings on Tuesday Morning? The cease and desist is MUCH rougher than the one handed to Fremont and should give the depositors enough reason to freak out ——-big time
“Daryl Adkins purchased his home for $245,000, and did extensively remodeling to the property. His initial asking price was $329,000, although he has reduced it to $233,000.”
- Daryl watched ‘Flip that House’ and thought to himself, ‘I can make a quick 100k!’ So he bought a house and is now going to find out the truth, that TV is make believe.
There were many who made a quick buck between 2002 and 2004, but only those who got out by 2005. Most are not that good at timeing these kinds of uspsings in the market.
So Mr. Swisher and his horse Dadgummit are moving to Dallas from St. Petersburg, eh? Yeah that makes sense. NOT. I’d be happy to trade locations with this clown.
“‘Home builders have dropped their prices like a rock,’ said consultant Brad Hunter. ‘People can buy a home discounted by $100,000 or $150,000.’”
IMPORTANT: Even after a $150,000 discount, will you be able to feed the gator that comes with the house?
The HOT Florida Housing Market all BOILS DOWN to THIS…. Clowns like Paul Swisher throwing BRICKS ?
ha ha ha Great Show ! lol
Crusty the Clown has house for Sale Homer. Be careful as he might be a few BRICKS Short.
I’ve seen price reductions of 60 - 80k on condos here in Naples, but they are still 50% overvalued. You can’t make a living wage here!
http://www.crafla.com/programs/miramar_foreclosure.htm
Foreclosure prevention in Miramar, Broward County, Florida
Interesting. They won’t cover you if you don’t have any significant changes to income. So what happens when your payments double or triple when your option ARM recasts?
Also interesting that they are driving up the costs of housing for people who are paying their way, via this $10,000 per deadbeat deal (i.e., no doubt from property taxes).
“South Florida home sales suffered through their slowest April in at least 10 years, dropping 37 percent from a year ago. Prices mostly inched up, although Broward condominiums sold for 8 percent less than they did in April 2006.”
I think this reveals some important info. It appears to me that entry level homes are the ones really not selling. Thus, the “median” price appears stable. But when you compare more relevant “oranges -to-oranges” i.e. condos, you see a price drop of 8%. My guess is that prices for homes are probably down 8% as well, it is just the fact that the lowest priced ones are the ones that really aren’t getting transacted that masks the fact that prices are actually down more than the median seems to imply.