March 17, 2006

Fannie Mae’s Portfolio The ‘Elephant In The Corner’

Some housing bubble news from Washington and Wall Street. “‘Congress and the American people were misled by the former leadership’ of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Rep. Michael Oxley, chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, said at a hearing. Oxley said the report underscored the need for a tough new regulator of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, according to accounts.”

“Fannie Mae disclosed Monday that it had found more errors in its accounting review. The House in October passed legislation written by Oxley that would bring stricter federal oversight of the two government-sponsored companies, reports said. But the White House opposes that bill because it would not force the two mortgage giants to reduce their mortgage investment holdings, reports said.”

“‘We are focused on doing what is right for the taxpayer,’ Emil Henry, assistant Treasury secretary. ‘While many of the issues in the report are in the process of repair, I think it’s clear that the elephant in the corner, the legacy of that era, is the extensive retained portfolio which..in our judgment is something that presents systemic risks.’”

“The American Bankers Association’s Economic Advisory Committee said it expects the Fed to raise overnight interest rates by a quarter percentage point to 4.75 percent at its meeting on March 27-28. It said another increase at the next policy meeting in May was likely.”

“One economic risk the group cited was the slowdown in the U.S. housing market. While the group said it expects housing to moderate, not take a nose dive, many uncertainties remain, including the impact of a push by federal bank regulators to make lenders tighten up underwriting standards on risky, alternative mortgage products. (Economist) Robert McGee, echoing other economists, said house prices are unlikely to decline nationwide, but some areas that experienced more significant gains could see prices drop.”

“Countrywide Financial Corporation is filing this Current Report on Form 8-K to provide a summary of pay-option loans held for investment at December 31, 2005.”

Total pay-option loan portfolio

2004..$4,701,795,000

2005..$26,122,952,000

Accumulated negative amortization (from original loan balance)

2004..$29,000

2005..$74,815,000

The CFC insiders are still at it.

And Reuters reports on a planned IPO. “Clayton Holdings Inc., a provider of services to the mortgage-backed securities market, plans an IPO worth about $100 million. The company provides automated back-office services for mortgage processing. However, analysts noted widespread concerns that the U.S. housing market is cooling could spook investors.”

“‘When you’re in an industry that’s out of favor, a lot of times it doesn’t matter what you do, just the fact that you’re in that sector is a concern,’ Tom Taulli said. ‘This is an IPO they should have taken out last year when the market was hot.’”




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Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 11:44:16

Try to stay out of the way when this elephant takes a dump…

 
Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 11:48:58

‘“Countrywide Financial Corporation is filing this Current Report on Form 8-K to provide a summary of pay-option loans held for investment at December 31, 2005.”

Total pay-option loan portfolio

2004..$4,701,795,000

2005..$26,122,952,000

Accumulated negative amortization (from original loan balance)

2004..$29,000

2005..$74,815,000′

I assume there is a typo in there: $29K s/b $29,000K???

Even so, $4m to $26m in one year is rather astonishing…

Comment by Ben Jones
2006-03-17 12:08:28

I checked it again. They just weren’t neg-am much in 2004. CFC is a big outfit. Those are billions, not millions.

Comment by MazNJ
2006-03-17 12:20:42

Ohmi…. They accumulated 74.8 BILLION in negative amortization in one year? So people missed their targeted interest only payments by about 75b…. nope, nothing to see here… move right along….

Comment by Ben Jones
2006-03-17 12:36:02

No, sorry for the confusion. The neg-am number is $74 million. The pay-option number is $26 billion.

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Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-17 12:58:21

Ben: Sorry for the additional confusion, but the 8-K says:

“Pay-option loans with accumulated negative amortization: $13.97 billion”

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2006-03-17 13:01:45

Holy smokes, your right. I was just working from the #’s not the text. Thanks for pointing that out!

 
Comment by lililegs
2006-03-17 13:16:55

Okay, I’m new at this and I want to be sure I’m understanding this. Is what you are saying “CFC pay-option loans accumulated $13.97 B in neg. amortization in 2005″ or is it “the total value of CFC’s pay-option loans with neg. amortization (thus orig. loan amount PLUS the add’l neg. am.) in 2005 was $13.97 B?

Thanks for a clarification. Either way, scary, but of course the former is much worse that the latter.

-L

 
Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-17 13:51:35

CFC is reporting its “Pay Option” portfolio is $26 billion. Of that $26 billion, $13 billion worth of loan principal has accumlated negative amortization. That means borrowers have “opted” to pay less than the interest due on some portion of this $13 billion. The “Accumulated negative amortization” (from original loan balance) equals $74.8 million. I am not completely clear on the final number, but I think it means that $74.8 million has been “opted” on to the back end of the $13 billion in loan principal subject to “neg am.” Sorry to belabor this, but I am short CFC and need to know I’m not nuts.

 
Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-17 14:13:28

Sorry if I’ve posted this twice -

The numbers say CFC’s portfolio of Pay Option loans is $26 billion. Of that, $13 billion worth of loan principal has incurred negative amortization of $74 million. In English, it means borrowers have “opted” not to pay the full interest due on half of the loan portfolio. $74 million has been slapped onto the back end of the portfolio as additional principle on which interest must be paid. In bank accounting, that means CFC’s “assets” increase everytime borrowers skip the monthly interest on the mortgage. Only in America.

 
Comment by lililegs
2006-03-17 15:59:32

Thanks DC_too. That is extremely helpful.

It also reinforces the point that I have absolutely NO idea what some people are thinking–adding to their principle like that. Sad. What is that old line: no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public (Menken)…

 
 
 
Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 13:08:36

Wow!!! FNM is supposedly “only” $11b in the red. Is it possible that CFC’s collapse might turn out worse than FNM’s? And are they systemically related?

Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-17 16:27:25

I dunno. I am not even sure CFC will collapse, but the company is certainly exposed, and their profit margins are getting squeezed by the flat/inverted yield curve. CFC is not in Fannie’s league either. If CFC goes under, it is front page of the business section, nothing more. Fannie drowns, I become a gold bug in a New York minute.

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Comment by Inspired
2006-03-17 18:15:08

DC. too — How many accoutants does it take to account for lending $3 trillion dollars on residential housing>>>>>>???? If you have 1200 CPA’s working full time for 3 years..don’t you think by NOW they would agree on the stinking numbers? Logic dictates that the reason for NOT filing is truth is worse than being out of compliance for 2yrs..Any other company would be trading below $5 dollars and be OFF the NYSE!!…Besides these 2005-6 investors “can’t handle the truth”!!! They want their cool-aide! Even when they don’t get it, they create some!
Fannie has had 80% or more of its entire Profolio refied or pay off in the last 4+ yrs. They are holding (so has CFC) they greatest Real Estate PUT since the persian Muslim hoardes crashed Constantinople..now called “Istanbul”. The Avg. portfolio must be near 6% coupon…(current market> than 6.25%… They have purchased credit swaps, and commmodity derivatives to offset risk (ie OIL/ Gold) and are most likely offside these in a huge way! In fact the $70 Katrian oil top was forced by their covering (I heard)..then our /US Bush/ FED team intervened to stem the tide. Six months later oil stands @ $62….and all is well..
They tell the sheeple!
Now here is the gas…The US government (corporation) has posted a $2-3 billion dollar credit support for Fannie…now that their assets and exposure is in the $TRILLIONs…what % of losses are truly gaurenteed /covered?

 
Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-18 08:09:53

Inspired - I don’t follow FNM for the same reason I can’t respond to your post - way to complicated for a simpleton like me to get my hands around it and address the issues. Warren Buffet stays away from things he claims he doesn’t understand - I live by the same rule.

 
Comment by Inspired
2006-03-18 09:25:34

DC-too..the questions were just food for thought.
Fannie produces or buys over 50% of the mortgage market..
The regulators have a problem…and the people have a FALSE belief that Fannie is a 100% protetectd Government company….
Yes, it may be toooooo big to fail..but it may also be tooo big to protect from failing!

 
 
Comment by Inspired
2006-03-17 17:48:34

GetStucco…of course!

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Comment by Dave
2006-03-17 15:17:59

I’m not sure what the big deal is. $74 million on a $26 Billion portfolio is 0.3%. It’s a drop in the bucket. It tells me people with these accounts aren’t letting their mortgage balances increase, even if they have the option.

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2006-03-17 11:52:05

Will the previous leadership be facing criminal prosecution? They should - just like Lay (Enron), Ebbers (WorldCom), and the other executives at other companies. Too many to name, and don’t remember all of them. I hope that they show their faces on trial, and on the way to jail (like Lay and Ebbers).

Comment by diogenes
2006-03-17 14:47:26

No,

In fact, they have been given Million dollar retirement portfolios. I don’t remember the numbers, but something like 110k per month.

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2006-03-17 11:52:54

And also, that they have to forfeit any and all ill-gotten gains.

Comment by Ben Jones
2006-03-17 12:10:11

There is actually a bill in congress that would force the executives to give back any bonus money that was the result of accounting manipulation. You would think it’d be automatic, huh?

 
Comment by Doug_home
2006-03-17 12:32:08

Remember Charles Keatings from the S&L scandle? He shipped millions out of the country before the court could lock his accounts, then he applied for a public defender lawyer because he was “broke”.

Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 13:11:04

I remember a fellow named Neil Bush who was involved in an S&L scandal (Silverado). I am sure the identical spelling of the last name to the CIC’s is merely coincidental…

Comment by AmazingRuss
2006-03-17 13:16:28

I beleive a Mr. McCain was involved as well.

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Comment by mad_tiger
2006-03-17 13:30:04

The one Republican among “The Keating Five”. I believe McCain’s culpability stemmed from being in the room for one meeting.

 
Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 13:35:54

I guess Neil Bush is not a Republican? Or was he not one of the Keating Five?

 
Comment by mad_tiger
2006-03-17 13:46:36

From Wikipedia:

The ethics committee’s investigation focused on five senators: Alan MacG. Cranston (D-Calif.); Dennis W. DeConcini (D-Ariz.); John H. Glenn Jr. (D-Ohio); John S. McCain III (R-Ariz.); and Donald W. Riegle Jr. (D-Mich), who became known as the Keating Five.
The ethics committee’s special counsel concluded that of the five, Glenn (a former astronaut) and McCain (a former Prisoner Of War) were not substantially involved in the influence-peddling scheme. Indeed, it was believed at the time that the Democratic party, which at the time controlled the Senate, wanted McCain — the only Republican in the group — to remain a target of the investigation in order to avoid the impression that the scandal was only a Democratic problem. As Glenn’s involvement with Keating was equivalent to McCain’s, the only reason that Glenn was made a subject of the investigation was to keep McCain in the suspected group. After months of testimony revealed that all five senators acted improperly to differing degrees, the senators continually said they were following the status quo of campaign funding practices. In August 1991, the committee concluded that Cranston, DeConcini, and Riegle’s conduct constituted substantial interference with the FHLBB’s enforcement efforts and that they had done so at the behest of Charles Keating. The committee recommended censure for Cranston and criticized the other four for “questionable conduct.”

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 14:35:43

I guess Neil Bush had nothing to do with.

 
Comment by BigDaddy63
2006-03-17 16:37:45

Not to forgot Bubba and Hillary with the McDougals and a little Real Estate venture called Whitewater. Funny how people died that were involved with that, isn’t it? At least Bill & Hillary cover their trails- Jim Mcdougal, Vince Foster, Ron Brown, etc.

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 17:59:01

What the hell…. throw up a few bureaucrats against 25,000 american casualties in Iraq. I mean…. what the hell…. Right? ;)

 
 
 
Comment by Pismobear
2006-03-17 22:21:16

McCain was his buddy and took lots of slush from the aforementioned Mr. Keating. McCain is a bigger crook than Ted Kennedy.

 
 
 
Comment by John Law
2006-03-17 11:53:01

weren’t they just crying there wasn’t enough land?

New York Times
March 16, 2006

Picket Fence to Skyline View: Big Builders Come to Town
By MOTOKO RICH

FOR decades, home builders have fed the seemingly endless appetite for the suburban four-bedroom house with the backyard and the picket fence. But increasingly, they are recasting the American dream as a two-bedroom condominium with a gym in the basement and a skyline view from the living room.

Some of the biggest names in suburban home building are getting into urban condominium development or greatly expanding their presence there. In the New York metropolitan area, urban condos now represent nearly a third of sales for K. Hovnanian Homes, a national suburban home builder based in Edison, N.J., up from 5 percent five years ago. KB Home, a national developer that has built more than 146,000 homes in suburban subdivisions in the last five years, launched a new urban division last year, which is now building its first project, 200 condo units on top of a hotel in downtown Los Angeles.

At WCI Communities, a Florida-based builder that sold 1,900 single-family homes last year, high-rise development has risen to 40 percent of the company’s sales last year from 27 percent of sales in 2000. And in the Bay Area of California, fully half of the sales at Pulte Homes, the nation’s second-largest home builder, come from urban condos and town houses, up from none five years ago.

The business decision represented by these moves may reflect a major social shift, in which, after two decades of rezoning, promoting and hoping on the part of city governments and urban planners, cities are finally becoming attractive again for large numbers of middle class residents. “The suburbs are overbuilt, crowded and continuing to spread, and the commutes are getting longer,” said John K. McIlwain, a senior resident fellow for housing at the Urban Land Institute, a nonprofit research group. Meanwhile, “cities are actually much cleaner, healthier and better run than they were 20 years ago.”

Comment by hd74man
2006-03-17 12:48:54

Meanwhile, “cities are actually much cleaner, healthier and better run than they were 20 years ago.

Just like New Orleans 4 months ago-civilization to anarchy in 72 hours.

Don’t forget to stock your 2 AK-47’s in the broom closet to shoot yer way out, when all the illegals and low-lives riot and burn the place down.

Comment by Pismobear
2006-03-17 22:27:11

Cal Poly College Republicans are having a tri tip barbeque and trap shoot on April9 at the range off of Hwy 1. Bring your double or auto with 7-8 shot. We’ll put up some pickures of Fox for your practice.

Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-18 07:16:56

Be sure to bring your face guard :-)

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Comment by Moopheus
2006-03-17 13:08:40

Wow, KB Homes building high-rise condos. That’s a pretty scary thought. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere it could fall on.

 
Comment by Inspired
2006-03-17 18:24:47

Sorry NO, condo’s top first and go up last!
Condo or Russian comunie style living is NOT as social change.. but a reflection of the BUBBLE TOP in the making!!!!

 
 
Comment by nick the wizard
2006-03-17 11:53:17

the interest rate is going up. the effective cost of houses is still rising, so actual prices must accommodate. so simple.
the fingers will start pointing when the elephant collapses over the dinner table. that’s a lot of money for the government to bail out. that will surely put the debt over 10 trillions for sure.

 
Comment by BigDaddy63
2006-03-17 12:02:44

Gee, what a surprise. Another corrupt government agency. Bet you a $1 some poor lower level putz gets thrown in the grease and Franklin skates.

Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 12:10:40

Comment by BigDaddy63
2006-03-17 12:02:44
Gee, what a surprise. Another corrupt government agency. Bet you a $1 some poor lower level putz gets thrown in the grease and Franklin skates.

Thats the neo-con method. I’m sure it will happen.

Comment by BigDaddy63
2006-03-17 12:24:47

Once again, the facts never stand in the way of your ignorance

In 1996, President Clinton appointed Raines director of the Office of Management and Budget. He was instrumental in Clinton’s budget battles with the Republican-controlled Congress, eventually winning bipartisan support for most of Clinton’s spending priorities and laying the groundwork for a balanced budget by 2002.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1996/04/13/MN30680.DTL&type=printable

In addition to Kantor’s appointment, Clinton announced two other changes:

– Franklin Raines, vice chairman of the Federal National Mortgage Association, or Fannie Mae, was picked to head the Office of Management and Budget. Raines, who will serve as White House budget director, replaces Alice Rivlin, who was appointed vice chairman of the Federal Reserve Board.

Yeah,,, the man at the helm is a neo- con. riiightt.

Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-17 12:39:22

damn democrats. wish we could vote them out of office, put republicans in charge.

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Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 12:47:14

Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-17 12:39:22
damn democrats. wish we could vote them out of office, put republicans in charge.

Amen… damn dems!!

Never expect a republiCretin to admit their colossal economic failures. It’s easier to deflect by blaming those who created good economic fundamentals.

 
Comment by Tom
2006-03-17 13:08:27

LOL! The Dems were already voted out of office lol.. Now what do we have?

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 13:14:18

Comment by Tom
2006-03-17 13:08:27
LOL! The Dems were already voted out of office lol.. Now what do we have?

Borrow and spend republiCretins of course.

 
 
Comment by MjrMjr
2006-03-17 13:10:03

I think the neo-con statement was made as a reference towards the current Bush Administration.

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Comment by Thomas
2006-03-17 13:17:12

Nine times out of ten, the person using the term “neo-con” has no clue what the word actually means.

Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 13:22:44

The flailing desperation of blind loyalists in the face of the colossal failures of their leaders is truly fun to witness.

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Comment by grubner
2006-03-17 15:56:02

You lovable wacky hippy boomers. Your summer of love fades into a hazy twilight of incoherent rage.
Cheer up Connie, the Democrats have done a wizbang job in Vermont.
From the NYT
“Vermont Losing Prized Resource As Young Depart”
March 4, 2006, Saturday

Brought to you by your friends from the Garden State.

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 16:17:27

Have a matzo ball Rabbi. ;)

 
Comment by grubner
2006-03-17 17:25:25

What’s a “matzo ball” brother?
Is that like a bong hit?

 
Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-17 17:57:19

democrats are just pot-smoking hippy commies baby-and-jesus-killers. they never do anything right. i mean, come on, the democrats have controlled the federal government for 6 of the last 38 years. they’re the reason we’re in the mess we’re in today.

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-17 18:00:07

Damn straight Chillidog! [lmao]

 
Comment by grubner
2006-03-17 19:21:56

Chilldog

Lingus has posted here about his smoking “grass” back in ye olden days.

Comment by The Lingus
2006-03-02 08:27:10

“People are going to keep coming here from the Northeast, from Europe and from South America,” Dweck said. “When the dust settles, there’ll still be 10 percent to 12 percent annual appreciation.”

I gave up grass years ago but I’d be tempted to try the magic weed he’s smoking.”

I think i was being accused of being a Jesus killer. AKA Rabbi

PS: As for the hippy ref, I’ll bet lingus knows who The Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers were.

good night and may all wood chucks sleep well tonight.

 
Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-18 03:49:30

Fat Freddy’s Cat?

 
Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-18 03:50:50

Zippy the clown?

 
Comment by TheLingus
2006-03-18 06:04:52

The NJ slimer is obsessed. [lmao]

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by rms
2006-03-17 12:03:09

Maybe Fannie and Freddie are planning on having the PMI family for dinner?

 
Comment by SidneyPrice
2006-03-17 12:21:49

What is the size of the Fannie Mae mortgage portfolio again?

 
Comment by Salinasron
2006-03-17 12:29:04

Option ARMs are wonderful not just for borrowers who can’t afford their houses, but also for investors who look only superficially at a bank’s earnings report. Banks book the entire amount that a customer owes as income each month, not the minimum payment that’s actually paid. Presto we have noncash earnings to drive the stock price up.
If that doesn’t get you then maybe this will: The unpaid interest gets tacked on to the bank’s outstanding loan total, allowing the bank to display loan growth, which investors love. “You get earnings and growth.
Definitely a time to watch not only housing but mortgage companies and HB’ stocks. However, if you are of the opinion that more monies can be wrung for the housing market, by all means put you money where your faith is an buy some REITS.

Comment by turnoutthelights
2006-03-17 12:41:23

I did by a REIT. Specializing in storage units. Figured when this thing crashes, the one thing displaced homeowners will need is storage to stash all that crap their bought with their HELOC’s. Smart play or not, but I’ll find out in a year or so.

Comment by GetStucco
2006-03-17 13:14:43

My crystal ball says that now is not the time to be long storage unit REITs. Too much of what got stored was manufactured crap from China that spilled over from the garage. Now that the housing ATM is sputtering, the disposal of cheap manufactured junk will happen faster than the accumulation thereof, and the demand for offsite storage will wane…

 
Comment by Inspired
2006-03-17 18:32:54

Yeah and one day, they might pay their dividends “inkind” assets confisicated from the bankrupt borrowers…that had hoped they could hide their assets at a “storage place.”

 
Comment by shel
2006-03-17 18:43:32

that’s very funny! I’ll bet it works out for ya! :-)

 
 
Comment by NOVA fence sitter
2006-03-17 12:47:44

That is exactly the same practice that got Enron in trouble…mark to market accounting. This housing market is going to crash and burn the same way.

 
 
Comment by Simmssays
2006-03-17 12:54:17

I like the idea of storage unit reits. Could you share which ones we should research and see if we like?

Simmssays…americaninventorspot.com

Comment by turnoutthelights
2006-03-17 15:34:10

Shurgard. Also listed as SHU on the Dow.

 
 
Comment by jeffolie
2006-03-17 12:58:36

turnoutthelights

Those storage units may well turn into the new condo’s of tommorrow.

 
Comment by nobubblehere
2006-03-17 13:06:01

I once set up an office in a storage unit.

Comment by Tom
2006-03-17 13:10:57

That’s my new idea. Storage condos. They will go on the market for $200 grand, but you can only live in them 2 months out of the year. The other 10 months we get to control who we rent it out to for storage. We will give you 10% of the proceeds.

Think of the appreciation, it’s a no brainer investment.

My motto could even be “This is a no brainer investment, if you don’t have a brain or know how to use one, then this is the investment for you!”

Comment by Pismobear
2006-03-17 22:37:18

We will call them storage /housing condos. Good for storing your teenage children. Will be a lot quieter around the house and I can watch tv in peace.

 
 
 
Comment by dawnal
2006-03-17 13:21:11

“…extensive retained portfolio which..in our judgment is something that presents systemic risks.’”
********************************************************************************************************

Wha’s the Prollum? Surely you don’t think they made I/O loans? Or Neg Am loans? And any ARMS in the portfolio will surely reset without any defaults? They wouldn’t make those NO DOC “stated income” loans, surely. And all of them were made with substantial down payments because this is a GSE and they are going to be extremely prudent.

So wha’s the prollum?

Comment by mort_fin
2006-03-17 13:57:19

I’m pretty sure that Fannie and Freddie don’t buy neg ams, and IOs and ARMs are less than 5% of their holdings. They certainly do buy low downpayment stuff, and if it’s less than 20% down they have private mortgage insurance. For Fannie or Freddie to fail because of credit risk, you’d need to see at least one big or two small PMIs go down in flames first (mind you I’m not saying that can’t happen). Why doesn’t anyone discuss the state of the PMIs in terms of balance sheet or investing?

 
 
Comment by bubble-x
2006-03-17 13:22:45

It’s amazing how the coming Fannie Mae scandal is being ignored. As a GSE, in the end, WE are going to have to pick up the pieces, and because of its size, there will be many pieces to pick up. No one cares.

Countrywide’s numbers are just amazing. How is that not a problem?

It’s really incredible that there is a bubble debate at all with these kind of numbers, and scandals, ala Enron going on..

BubbleTrack.blogspot.com

 
Comment by hoz
2006-03-17 13:53:30

IMHO the numbers from Countrywide are not nightmarish. At an average mortgage of $500,000 that is only 150,000 SFR with an average appraised value of $640,000. There will certainly be nightmare scenarios for individuals, but with 3 million houses for sale in the US if 150,000 more were added to the mix at reduced prices, the bank would make out like thieves. Fannie Mae scares me - not Countrywide.

Comment by DC_Too
2006-03-17 14:06:01

I agree - Fannie is scary, Countrywide is just a good, garden variety short play. What the 8-K loan to value info does not reflect is piggyback loans. CFC writes the first trust at 80% LTV and sends the borrower up the street to the shylocks for the 2nd trust piggyback. It’s bullsh*t. Borrowers have little or no skin in the game and they will walk away. Do not buy this stock.

Comment by rms
2006-03-18 10:03:28

Exactly! And don’t forget these homes are often priced 5x to 12x the median income at the outset, so it’s risky paper any way you cut it.

 
 
 
Comment by jeffolie
2006-03-17 14:06:33

hoz

A price drop of 29% would put those 150,000 mortgages underwater. There is an impending wave of mortgage resets in 2006 and 2007: $2 trillion dollars worth of mortgages, to be exact, or about 1/4 of all mortgages.
Many borrowers in this category still have plenty of equity. For instance, someone who took out an ARM with a 3-year reset is sitting on a pile—although these folks will receive quite a payment shock. Recipients of 2-year resets have less equity, but still a little something. Those who got a 1-year ARM in 2005 will get a substantially higher payment with no equity to show for it. As time progresses, this mix will get worse… as will the number of resets. If interest rates don’t cooperate things will be ugly in 2007… but either way, this is yet another headwind facing the housing market.

 
Comment by dawnal
2006-03-17 14:10:07

OT….From today’s The Daily Reckoning:

” *** Former Goldman Sachs investment banker John Talbott says in his new
book, “Sell Now! The End of the Housing Bubble,” that many Americans could
be facing a 50% decline in housing prices. He estimates that America’s top
40 cities will see an average 47.2% decline: Boston is 49.4%, Miami 44.8%,
New York 44.6%, and Chicago 27.3%.

In the space of five years, Alan Greenapan’s cheap-money policies have
added $30 trillion to housing prices worldwide, an unsustainable 75%
increase, he says.

And this from Gary Shilling writing in Forbes:

“The current housing weakness will develop into a full-scale rout.It’s
clearly a bubble and is nationwide…The house price collapse will induce
a painful recession that will send U.S. stocks into a tailspin…China
will suffer a hard landing…and weakness in the U.S. and China will
spread worldwide.”

I wonder if the CEO of WLS has read the book?

 
Comment by Brad
2006-03-17 14:45:49

Wow. ziprealty shows Phoenix area inventory at 38,600 today. It was 37,000 just about a week ago. 1,600 added in less than a week. San Diego County still adding 50-100 daily, 17,900 today.

Comment by AZgolfer
2006-03-17 14:53:28

I predict 40,000 by June in Phoenix. Queen Creek is going up about 20 a day. It appears to be flipper central.

Comment by turnoutthelights
2006-03-17 15:38:42

What’s the weather like, or has been like, in Phoenix? Wonderin’ if that spring season comes earlier there, giving us all a future look at the reat of the country.

Comment by Kim
2006-03-18 06:15:46

Forget spring, we came here at the beginning of February and as far as I could tell, it was already summer.

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Comment by Brad
2006-03-17 15:00:19

If this rate keeps up Phoenix will easily reach 40,000 by April. 1600 last week, 1400 by the end of the month? Somebody call Guinness.

Comment by chilidoggg
2006-03-17 18:13:54

did someone say “guinness”? It’s time to go get one! Happy St. Paddy’s Day!
May the road rise to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face.
May the rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the hollow of His hand.

 
 
Comment by Auction Heaven in '07
2006-03-17 18:23:04

I think the bankers are off a bit with their prediction.

We’re just beginning to see 40yr, and soon, 50yr loans.

Just like Japan back in the 80’s before it all fell apart.

100yr loans are on the way.

http://www.calhfa.ca.gov/

If California state government is getting into the 40yr loan game- we aren’t done yet.

Since it’s pretty much been proven that some of the folks in the Federal Reserve come here to see which way the wind is blowing…

…I’ll address my thought to YOU.

Dear Federal Reserve…

Please keep raising the interest rate all the way THROUGH September.

Then, you can sit back, and watch.

We need to make it clear to Real Estate people that the party is over.

If you stop raising rates just before, or during the summer…

…this non sense will continue.

Just my two cents, Federal Reserve people.

 
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