A Natural Correction Of The Market
MarketWatch reports on Texas. “Executives at (Texas-based) Centex Corp. on Wednesday didn’t provide a profit outlook for the rest of the year as the industry continues to struggle with an uncertain housing market. ‘We know that challenges will persist for awhile,’ CEO Tim Eller said. ‘Most markets continue to be hampered by oversupply, and we expect widespread affordability issues to be a problem for some time to come.”
“The company’s Texas market is being hit by declines in mortgage liquidity, Eller said, adding that in Houston the company’s sales were down about 30% while a year ago they were ‘fairly robust.’”
The Houston Chronicle from Texas. “Houston-area home sales continued their downward slide in June, falling for the second month in a row and the third this year. Single-family home sales fell 6.9 percent last month from June 2006, as tighter restrictions in the subprime lending industry continued to drag down the local market, according to the Houston Association of Realtors.”
“Over the past year, the number of homes listed for sale has been mounting, and some properties are taking a long time to sell, particularly in the suburbs where new houses compete with older ones for buyers.”
“Jennifer and Kyle Hawes put their five-bedroom Pearland home on the market May 1 and are now considering dropping the $209,000 asking price on the 10-year-old property.”
“‘We’ve seen eight families come through, but no offers,’ said Jennifer Hawes. Close to where they live, ‘you can get a new house for probably not much more than ours,’ she said.”
“Home builders are also feeling the pinch. Sales of new homes fell 19 percent in June from the same month last year, according to Metrostudy.”
“And more homes are on the market now than last year at this time. At the end of June, 37,236 single-family properties were listed for sale, an increase of 18.6 percent from last June and the 12th month with a year-over-year increase.”
The American Statesman from Texas. “Sales of existing homes in June in Central Texas fell 6 percent from a year earlier, the first decline for the month since 2002, the Austin Board of Realtors said Friday.”
“‘It’s a natural correction of the market based on tightening credit standards’ that lenders are imposing on potential buyers, said Mark Sprague, a partner in marketing firm Residential Strategies Inc.”
“After the record sales of 2006, a decline in sales for 2007 would not be a surprise, Sprague said.”
“‘Austin has experienced record-breaking growth in home sales for the past four years,’ Charles Porter, chairman of the Realtors board, said in a statement. ‘Overall, the Central Texas housing market has been resilient and continues to be one of the best investments money can buy.’”
“A total of 9,159 homes were on the market last month, 8 percent more than in June 2006 and the biggest number in several years.”
From KHOU.com in Texas. “A charred, gutted home on a small street of foreclosed homes in Spring is more than just an empty dwelling, it’s a sign of a disturbing new pattern in mortgage fraud.”
“Explosions rocked the 7,000 square foot building Sunday afternoon when the owner was in the Bahamas. The Fire Marshal said there were 25 five-gallon containers of gasoline stashed all over the home that were ignited simultaneously.”
“The blaze came less than three weeks before $30,000 in property taxes were due. The owner of the home, Michael Macomber, posted $90,000 bond and was released from custody Monday.”
“Investigators said he confessed to everything, for he was the one left holding the bag when a $500,000 mortgage fraud ring unraveled around him.” “The previous owner, Arthur Monroe, was charged with falsely doubling the home’s value, selling it to Macomber and then paying him a kickback.”
“So far, seven people are facing charges for the complex scheme involving multiple homes, mortgage fraud, insurance fraud and fire, something arson investigators said they’re coming across more often than ever.”
“Federal investigators are getting involved too, because they believe the title company linked to the scheme may have been in on it as well.”
USA Today reports from Louisiana. “In working-class areas here, homes for sale have begun to move briskly. But in the ritzy Uptown district and other well-to-do neighborhoods, the picture is bleaker. ‘New Price’ and ‘Reduced’ signs adjoin grand Victorian homes — symbols of a struggling upscale housing market.”
“In New Orleans, sellers have begun dangling unusual sweeteners, in some cases, a year’s worth of home insurance premiums and state grant money, to draw buyers. Insurance rates, which have as much as tripled since Katrina, are deflating sales and forcing some to downsize to smaller homes.”
“In a healthy real estate environment here, an average supply of homes for sale might be five months’ worth, says Arthur Sterbcow, president of a major real estate agency on the Gulf Coast. Now, the New Orleans metro area contains nearly twice that supply of homes for sale.”
“The costlier the homes, the thicker the glut. The area includes a 10-month inventory of homes priced from $300,000 to $325,000. That compares with a 23-month supply of homes priced from $750,000 to $1 million.”
“‘There are more homes on the market now than when there was an oil bust,’ Sterbcow says.”
“Rodney Montz, an advertising executive, is among those thinking of leaving. One nagging concern that has kept Montz here, at least for now, is fear that he won’t be able to fetch a decent price for his 2,700-square-foot house, which he spent four years renovating himself.”
“A real estate agent has suggested that he put it on the market for $675,000, about 20% less than what he was told his house was worth a year ago.”
“But the earlier, higher price quote came soon after Katrina, when those whose homes had been damaged were hustling to find other housing. ‘There was a sort of urgency to buy anything that was standing and livable,’ says Lawrence Yun, a senior economist with the National Association of Realtors.”
“In the fourth quarter of 2005, displaced residents bid up median prices by 27% in the New Orleans area, the NAR says. But as sellers have increasingly outnumbered buyers, prices have been depressed for months. In the first quarter of 2007, the median plunged 10.9% from the same period last year, to $155,900.”
“Real estate prices have…started to fall in places such as Pass Christian, Miss., amid a swollen inventory.”
“In Mississippi, agents blame a drop in vacation-home sales, in part, for the glut of upscale homes in the Gulfport-Biloxi area. ‘In addition to fewer people living and working here, we’re seeing less snowbirds’ buying second homes, says Jim Atchison of the Gulf Coast Association of Realtors.”
“A weak real estate market benefits buyers such as Melissa Carpenter, who can wait as long as they need to find a suitable home. She and her husband want to pay no more than $300,000 for a four-bedroom house, have been pleasantly surprised by what they’ve seen in their price range.”
“‘There are houses everywhere you look,’ Carpenter notes.”
25% off peak in FL and other zones- it’s natural, no biggie, cool
More shady mls dealings:
I recently noticed another shady business practice on the mls.A house was listed for 156k one day and the next day I saw the price it was 157k and then went pending that day.I think someone wanted the list vs sales price % to be 100%. Anyone seen any bullsh@t like this going on?
LOL Florida is already down 25% and will be down another 50%.
Thus what cost $500k at peak is worth about $200k at the bottom(adjusted for inflation)
“we’re seeing less snowbirds buying second homes, says Jim Atchison.”
No problem Jim, just call 1-800-BOOMERS and place your order. Operators are standing by…
Bwhahahaha
You know, I was surfing the ‘net the other day and found a realtor’s web site - in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula, of all places - part of the spiel was “rising prices as baby boomers buy for retirement…” In the UP, for Christ’s sake? Please.
It’s beautiful there if you can deal with the winters.
. . . and the mosquitos in summer.
Why ARE mosquitos and flies brutal up north (albeit for a shorter season)? I would think that going through the annual freeze would be inhospitable for the species.
There’s lots of still water for them to breed, and a relative scarcity of warm-blooded creatures for them to feed on.
Will global warming make it a paradise ?
Nope.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070612/METRO/706120396/1003
Some of my family are up by the International Boundry Water Canoe Area (BWCA) for reasons beyond me.
It’s pretty too, but to Hell with playing Jeremiah Johnson and fighting the snow.
mikey would rather Surf than Fight
news must travel slow from the bubble centers San Diego and Las Vegas (first price cuts reported in 2005) to the fringes of the U.S. A lot of us knew that boomers were part of the reason for the runup in house prices back in 2005. Moreover, Harry Dent in Roaring 2000s predicted back in the 1990s boomers wills start downsizing their real estate later on this decade.
“boomers will start downsizing their real estate later on this decade.”
That’s great. So everyone will be competing for 1,500 sq. ft. starter homes; or, in the case of boomer, ender homes.
From what I got from citydata.com a lot of the UP is losing population not gaining it. The only place I would think that would have any growth would be Marquette.
Or call 1-800-DIAL-A-PRAYER if that number has been disconnected
Imagine this: Straight talk on the housing market………….
Reading word of the debacle at class-act mortgage lender Countrywide (CFC), I couldn’t help thinking about a fascinating interview my colleague Jon Birger did recently with Bob Toll, eternal optimist and CEO of luxury home builder Toll Brothers (TOL). When I read the Q&A in the magazine, I was struck by how there seemed to be a sub-text to everything Toll said, a sort of What-He-Says versus What-He’d-Say-If-You-Injected-Him-With-Truth-Serum. So with apologies to Jon and Bob, here is an imagined annotation to Toll’s responses, were he being more candid than the situtation allowed. (To read the full interview, follow the link above. I’ve edited it for space below. The bold are Birger’s questions, the plain text are Toll’s published answers, and the bit in italics is my contribution.)
Read on…………..
http://gowest.blogs.fortune.com/2007/07/25/imagine-this-straight-talk-on-the-housing-market/#comments
And after a correction yesterday in the financial markets I think they are going to continue to correct….nope back up today, what a freaking JOKE! So, I guess when we truly see housing take the serious dump when the other shoe falls in NY and Cali that then we will see in unison the financial markets go with them. Nice little exacta of disaster this will be ugly, this will not collapse like a knockout punch but more like a drunk who staggers and knocks things over, and grabs many things on his way down wildly flailing.
Texas is fraud central, I’ve been saying that since the first day I was here. Nothing in those stories surprises me at all.
And wasn’t New Orleans the “hot” place for “investors” right after Katrina? As a former resident of that city, all I can say is, “yeah, right.”
I’d be interested to see a discussion of New Orleans. Like it or not, things really are ‘different here’ in terms of real estate. There was an immediate, real shortage of housing that increased rentals 15-25% overnight.
Now, those who decided to come back have sunk entire savings into rebuilding their home only to live next door to an abandoned house that hasn’t been touched since the storm.
One big mess!
I lived in Gretna. You know, the city where the police stood in the middle of the bridge after Katrina and kept people from coming across. Unbelieveable.
I thought that story was amazingly under-reported. When I first heard about it, I thought it would be a much bigger deal. Never understood why black leaders — or, really, any progressive folks — didn’t make a bigger fuss about it.
I was stuck in a hotel room in Chattanooga for work (I delayed a flight one day because I didn’t want to deal with hurricane moving north and being stuck in an airport all day) and watched the whole thing. I remember Shepard Smith of Fox News was on and he was absolutely livid about the bridge and the police not allowing anyone to cross. I don’t have a high opinion of Fox News, but it was one of their better times in reporting IMO.
That really is a stomach-churning story. It still irks me that it was the governor of TX, not any LA official, who was the first to close his gaping mouth and decide to actually do something about the sitution… like send buses. Gov. Blanco was busy calling for a day of prayer.
I grew up in LA and lived in uptown New Orleans while I was there for school. I might actually consider going back to that area someday. The appeal of New Orleans is difficult to explain in purely logical terms. To some people, there’s just something about it that makes them want to live there despite its problems. Other people would rather live anywhere else. C’est la vie.
On the fundamentals, it does have one thing going for it: It’s long been one of the least expensive places to live, and I think that will be especially true in a couple of years. This is mainly because the median income is so low, but for people with mobile jobs, that’s largely irrelevant. Another factor, though, is that New Orleans has more than its fair share of racists and chauvinists. Combine that with complete incompetence from civic leaders, and you have the perfect recipe for a very uncomfortable and dysfunctional dynamic in city governance, to put it politely.
I’ve got a nugget that hasn’t been reported period. So far out there it’s tinfoil-hat territory. Saw it with my own eyes tho…
Almost immediately after it was obvious that there’d be a large body-count from the flooding, the medical examiner (or equiv) decided that there would be no investigations into specific causes of death - all would be ‘Katrina-related’… (I’m sure I oversimplified that, but you can definitely look it up for specifics - this isn’t in dispute).
Storm hit Aug 29, the levees broke late that afternoon and the dangerous flooding occurred for the next few days. B/c of my circumstances, I was ‘volunteered’ for disaster-recovery and a helicopter picked me up in Baton Rouge. From the Tuesday after until Thanksgiving I went back and forth from the N.O. airport (MSY) to Mobile 2-4 times per week.
MSY was also the improvised morgue, or at least the first-stop for the found dead. Conservatively, I easily saw 200-300 of the wrapped bodies.
Most (at least 75% from what I saw) had gunshot wounds.
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NERDGIRL- you bring up some fantastic points, but this is probably the wrong blog…
“it was the governor of TX, not any LA official, who was the first to close his gaping mouth and decide to actually do something about the sitution”
-Wrong, but not your fault since this too was fraudulently reported. The Houston Astrodome was built partly with Fed $$$ to act as a nat’l evacuation center in case of nat’l crisis {russian nukes were the idea}. There are a handful of other such facilities across the country, Houston was closest. The only choice given to the Gov of TX was how he was going to spin it: complain and be a villain, or open his arms to the ….
“To some people, there’s just something about it that makes them want to live there despite its problems. ”
-I relate to this, b/c I’ve lived all over the country yet always find myself back here. The past 2 years has opened my eyes to the truth: this place is a crutch. No matter how badly one fails in the more educated parts of the country, there’s a strong chance he can come back to Orleans Parish and be the smartest person in the room. Safety net - for me anyways.
“This is mainly because the median income is so low, but for people with mobile jobs, that’s largely irrelevant. ”
-I disagree here, but there is no right/wrong - all depends on perspective. I would argue that the low standard of living coincides with tragically depressed wages. During good times this was great since your dollar went a long way and even a modest income meant a very comfortable life. However there’s a BIG catch: inflation isn’t depressed down here; in fact it’s on par with the rest of the country. Suddenly my $45k/yr job that would be $67k anywhere else doesn’t buy as much gas and milk than my Yankee counterpart.
“Combine that with complete incompetence from civic leaders…”
- you’re warm… EDUCATION is both the problem and the solution. The Orleans Parish public schools are a disgrace. Seriously, this is one negative about this entire area that’s actually understated. Just ask any Houston cop that’s still arresting kids with wads of cash in their pockets only to be told it’s “their Bush’s money”!
All good points. On the education issue, I have a friend who joined Teach for America for a few years after college. She first taught at a middle school in inner-city Chicago. After a couple of years, she returned to New Orleans and taught there. She quit after a few months. She just couldn’t take it. Louisiana schools are just horrible places to be — for both teachers and students. I’m so thankful my grade school days are over. I feel sorry for all the kids in line behind me.
Glad to see a thread on Texas and the old South. This is addressed to txchick, Lou Minatti and others in the area.
I may have a job opportunity in southwest Fort Worth (near Benbrook) in six months or a year, though I will still derive most of my income from an internet-based business.
I realize that conditions may change going forward, but what are the major pitfalls I should be looking for when contemplating a home purchase in Texas, the Ft. Worth area in particular (3/2 or 4/2, around 180k-200k, with 3x annual income)? Generally speaking, what has been the price run-up since 2003 and how much further, if any, do you expect prices to come down in this cycle? Any indepedent, objective websites you can recommend that could get me up to speed? I am familiar with the southeast Florida market, so Texas looks cheap, but I’ve read enough to know that looks, even in Texas, can be deceiving. Any advice to help orient me would be greatly appreciated.
Should read $180k-200k within 3x annual income.
I happen to like Ft. Worth, Arlington, Benbrook, etc. very much. Central Ft. Worth is a bit overpriced and there’s a lot of stupid speculative housing being built, such as “luxury condos” downtown and near Sundance Square which will all be foreclosure food before long. I’d stay away from any house built by a national builder and look for more custom stuff, of which there is plenty there.
Arlington is #1 in DFW for foreclosures now due to overbuilding of cheap crap south of I-20. In north Arlington, though, there are some really nice larger houses on big treed lots that you can get under 200K for well over 2K square feet (more like 3000 square feet). Interlochen is nice and the prices have come down from when that was the place where all the Texas Rangers players lived.
Benbrook is weird, parts are very nice, others are borderline hillbilly.
There’s a really good realtor out there (his name is Don Lawyer - google him if you want) who I have been chatting with a bit about some properties out there. He really knows the area and gives great buyer service.
I love Ft. Worth.
Great tip, thanks, I’ll look him up.
My personal favorite area was near TCU. You’re within mountain biking commute distance of downtown; getting to Benbrook from there should be easy. In any case, there are some lovely old neighborhoods there, full-grown trees, and just enough college life to keep it interesting. I miss the place (even though I didn’t at the time have the cash to live in the houses I really wanted to!).
I’ve lived in both FW and South Florida, and to me there is no comparison. Fort Worth any day. Dallas not so much.
That couple being charged for lying to the investigators as witnesses to the fire? That was like watching a driver in a car having the top of his head sliced off in a freak accident! “How the !~@#$ hell that happened!?!!?”
LOL! What goes around comes around.
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(unfortunately, I don’t know the ASCII code for a treble clef)
“Explosions rocked the 7,000 square foot building Sunday afternoon when the owner was in the Bahamas. The Fire Marshal said there were 25 five-gallon containers of gasoline stashed all over the home that were ignited simultaneously.”
Hey Dude - Insurance companies don’t pay in arson cases…
Hey Dude - Insurance companies don’t pay in arson cases…
The Insured doesn’t get paid, the mortgage holder does.
125 gallons .. 7,000 sq/ft.. more than a pint of gasoline per square yard.
This arsonist is the Stretch-Hummer of pyromaniacs..
I hope he has fun in jail getting his behind set on fire by bubba….
“Owner” is a “real estate attorney”. “Needs” to see a $1M house only months after “buying” it. In an area well liked by the California equity locusts.
Good luck with this, cowboy. The only question is how much you’re gonna lose.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/rfs/381731136.html
“$995000 Owner must sell! Only lived in 5 months Beautiful custom!”
I think a million could get you a better location near the ocean myself. It amazeing the prices of some homes here in arizona. Towards scottsdale you see ridiculous prices in the millions.For millions I will be overlooking the ocean sipping margaritas.
I was at my families beach house over in Sunset Beach last night and I look next door, and there towering over the beach is this three story 7,000 sq ft monster of a house. I asked my sister, this thing is huge how many people live in this monster is it three properties in one? Nope 2 people live there, and that is it….I was looking at her like she was crazy…two people??!! When did a 7000 sq ft house not hold a huge family or multiple generations of families……2 people….7000 sq feet??? I am amazed at how the norm is now becoming gigantic.
Those are people with waaay to much money and the need to make sure others know it.
Hey if I won the lottery, id be living in a 7000+ sf house too. Except ill be paying $250k to $500k to get one like that(don’t need ocean views)
Me too. I know of ocean view houses in California with acreage for under $950,000.
This clown is a Cali equity locust - I am sure of that. This is what I expect to see lots of - they buy here and then want to go home - try to get their money back and it ain’t happening.
I think this may be the owner:
http://www.klgates.com/professionals/detail.aspx?professional=1538
That sounds like a FB. My bets are that person simply walks away because at this point, it is the smaller loss.
It’s different in NYC…
IRWIN KELLNER
Location, location, location
Commentary: Real estate has never been hotter in New York
By Dr. Irwin Kellner, MarketWatch
Last Update: 4:20 PM ET Jul 24, 2007
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (MarketWatch) — This week’s figures on new and existing home sales are not representative of the housing market as a whole.
Once you dig below the surface, you’ll find that both sales and prices of residences in some parts of the country are actually going through the roof.
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/new-yorks-real-estate-market/story.aspx?guid=%7BC1313496%2D10C6%2D4D54%2D973E%2D81F3264EC8CE%7D
I’m sorry, but this article is unadulterated crap. Yes, there are a few parking spots (about 20 or so I believe) in the basement of a SOHO super luxury building that are on sale right now for $250,000. But frankly that’s a limited exceptional case, and in no way reflects what is actually happening in the city overall.
Bottom line is you’re starting to see foreclosures on the Upper East side, which would be unthinkable if what the article said was true. Not to mention the absolute Tsunami of new housing that is flooding on to the market in easily commutable neighborhoods. (Riverdale and LIC are toast, and will undoubtedly be a large drag on the rest of the city).
I wish people would stop pretending that NYC is only inhabited by celebrity chefs, famous writers/artists, highly paid actors and hedge fund managers. The reality is the median income is less than 50k.
If that is true, they couldn’t afford the $3000-5000+ montly rent for a studio or 1/1 apartment
And at last this: Subprime boom fueld by ‘Crack Cocaine’ accounting, says Bloomberg columnist (FINALLY someone from msm has caught on to why it’s not good to run markets like a dealer runs his junkies)
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aIOWGBzzWpNo&refer=home
A bean counters worst nightmare has arrived, accountability for the numbers. I was wondering where all the shady accountants at enron found work.
Recently accountants worst enemy is a calculator.
I just read today that the the former CFO of the European division of Enron is now the CEO of Foxton’s or one of its competitors. No kidding.
“It’s a natural correction of the market…”
Sort of like natural childbirth — hurts like hell, then the bubble is born! Cries all the time, wakes you up in the middle of the night, and continues to produce sh!t of every imaginable size, shape, and smell. You spend money constantly, and often you wonder where it all goes. The bubble grows up, leaves without a single “thank you,” and even tho you love it more than life itself, deep inside, you’re sort of glad because you know you can no longer afford it.
A NATURAL correction, my a$$!
Yikes. Thanks for reminding me why I never had any kids.
“Yikes. Thanks for reminding me why I never had any kids.”
Aren’t you 50 now? I am half your age and never had kids and never will. I gotta show this to my brother and sister. Ah, my sister probably wants kids anyway. My bro and I are in the same boat. No wife, no kids = freedom!
Check out Bubble Girl:
http://emuse.ebaumsworld.com/flash/play/656/
“‘It’s a natural correction of the market based on tightening credit standards’ that lenders are imposing on potential buyers, said Mark Sprague
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AND based on the fact that prices went so high, nobody has the willingness, or ability to buy. Why is this so hard to understand?
Right, and bubble talk like this shows that speculation is still being encouraged, even at these prices:
‘Overall, the Central Texas housing market has been resilient and continues to be one of the best investments money can buy.’
I give you Exhibit A. Ben, can you imagine paying 600K for a condo in Ft. Worth?
http://dallas.craigslist.org/rfs/381827509.html
Or how about 370K in Wichita Falls?
http://dallas.craigslist.org/rfs/381646636.html
From the WF link: ‘Ben Franklin Elementary School’
Means it’s in the country club area.
Wow, that FW condo… serious overkill for the area, and not just on price. Maybe I should take back what I said about Fort Worth, if that’s what it’s turning into over the last couple of years.
Hang in there txchick57
Next thing you know they’ll be building high rise luxury condos and a WaterWorld in downtown Del Rio for the boomers and snowbirds
I found a story about a proposed condo tower in McAllen about a year ago. Nothing about it since.
You have *got* to be kidding me. I was just there with the Red Cross as part of the flood relief operation in TX. I don’t think so…
Yeah and so where are the ‘there’s-no-bubble-in-Texas’ people? I’m not near as fond of cowtown as you are, except for the cool museums.
Ben, There is a bubble - a credit bubble, but the price bubble never was out of hand on the mainstream SFR homes here- at least in DFW - sales are slower but that is manily due to credit. We are doing a ton of FHA loans - at full doc. so prices have not dropped that much on average and people are still moving into the Metroplex…..All I can say is that my DE status is worth it’s weight in GOLD right now ….
Right, it’s different in big d. How are all those condo projects coming along? D/FW has fallen off a cliff more than once in my lifetime and it will fall again, IMO.
‘There’s no slowdown in the foreclosure wave hitting the Dallas-Fort Worth area. The number of homes facing foreclosure in North Texas was up 31 percent in the latest report. Some areas saw an even bigger spike. In Tarrant County, foreclosures were up 50 percent.’
‘Just under half of the homes posted for foreclosure each month are actually sold at auction. ‘Some loans that were taken out a bit ago have yet to reset’ with higher payments, said Gail Cunningham of Consumer Credit Counseling Service of Greater Dallas. ‘We could just be seeing the tip of the iceberg.’
BTW, this area was already near the 80’s bust numbers in defaults…last year.
The FHA loan limit in DFW is 206K. Anyone who needs one of those probably ain’t loaded with cash to put down. 206K doesn’t buy you much around here anymore unless you’re willing to schlep 60 miles RT into town everyday.
“SLEEP IN THE CLOUDS ON THE 17 FLOOR”
Are clouds that low in Texas?
Yes - that building was almost completely destroyed by a tornado that came through downtown FW in 2000.
LOL! That condo probably will drop down to $150k-200k. Most of Texas is very cheap. Lots of condos for $20k to $50k and lots of houses for $50k to $100k. $600k? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!
“The blaze came less than three weeks before $30,000 in property taxes were due.”
I can’t help but think that there is a connection there!
Some stupid sellers in Reno, NV are saying and believing that this slow down would last for a while and then it will go up next year…there is no way most of the people who bought in the last couple of years could have afforded the homes they bought if they were asked to put 20% down… How many can do it even today??? The prices have to fall by altleast 30% in this area for anyone to afford a traditional mortgage with 20% down…
A realtor friend in Houston, Montrose area, just put a 4-plex under contract for himself. Nice bldg, but at 430k with rents of 750-775/mo, I asked him how could it cash flow. His answer, “well, almost, sort-of cash flows, as long as the tax appraisal doesn’t reflect what I am paying.” He made so much money the past few years that he can probably use the tax loss. I paid 295k for 9 units in 1998, sold for 450k in 2003, rent roll is only up slightly. That was a great run up for Houston, 50% increase in 5 years instead of 10 years. Bet he’d ask 800-900k for those 9 units today, if he wanted to sell. No bubble, ha.
This is fr txchik1975 and others who are familiar with Houston.
Is there any way to find out the selling price of House in Houston?I have always rented and thinking about owning house in next 1-2 yrs.
Yeah. Find a realtor and ask them. Sign up for Zip Realty and whichever mullet they assign to you, ask them. They’re dying for business, they will tell you anything.
Is there any website provided by the county. I used to live in Louisville and county had a website that listed the prices of houses.
What is your budget? Courtray to what others think, most of Texas is still very cheap.
“I grew up in LA and lived in uptown New Orleans while I was there for school.”
LIAR! And I can prove it by the grammatically-correct sentence y’all just typed.
Menifee Update (Riverside County, CA)
near Murrieta, Temecula, Sun City
The realtor who sold a house for me in May ‘06 for $375K says the exact same model of house, on the same street, also on the golf course, is now for sale for $305 and it is not selling. That’s a 20% drop in value in a year. The agent says it is taking 6-9 months for anything to sell, and on that street nothing has sold for 6 months. There are plenty of houses for sale too. There is another house on the street, also the same model, also on the golf course, where the owners are asking $469K (e.g. $164K more). The agent explained this by saying “they are trying to get more equity out of their home”. That has to be one of the stupidist statements ever.