September 2, 2007

Once Starry-Eyed Speculators Renege On Loans

The Morning News reports from Arkansas. “When a real estate market is hot the news travels fast and far. That was the case in Northwest Arkansas not too long ago as real estate investors from California and Idaho tapped into the housing sector with investment dollars. The strength of solid employment numbers and population growth the region caught the eye of out of state real estate investor groups like Realty Wealth Advisors of San Francisco.”

“‘Several investors came to me with profits they had made in Boise, Idaho, from the sale of property in that market. Six of them came back earlier this year and bought a second home after the market had slowed,’ said mortgage broker Chad Bridgers.”

“John Sullivan, broker in Tontitown, recently tried to work with a lady in Southern California who bought a newly built home in Northwest Arkansas as a real estate investment. He said the lady called and asked him to help her lease the property to cover her $3,100 monthly mortgage.”

“When he told her the home would bring $1,500 a month tops, she knew that her choices were limited. He said the house she bought was likely overpriced.”

“Unable to make up the payment gap, the home sits empty. It is probably now on its way back to the mortgage lender, marring her good credit score, Sullivan said.”

“More than 300 homes in Northwest Arkansas sit empty, ‘hidden’ in plain sight. Many of those homes show no signs of life. The grass has grown up and stacks of bricks sit in the garage. No ‘For Sale’ sign adorns the front yard.”

“Market analyst Paul Bynum classifies more than 350 homes in the region priced above $300,000 as potentially ‘hidden.’”

“The Quail Ridge subdivision in Centerton had 27 homes on Bynum’s hidden list. However, more than a dozen of these homes are owned by investors in Colorado Springs, Colo., and Newport News, Va.”

“Jeff Collins, economist with Streetsmart Data Services in Springdale, said there are a large number of empty homes in the region. His research revealed 578 completed but unoccupied new homes in Washington County, and 1,230 in Benton County as of June 30.”

“Pending litigation is another explanation for some of the hidden homes on Bynum’s list. ‘Homes in the midst of foreclosure or bankruptcy can sit vacant for up to a year waiting on the court dismissal,’ said Gary Head, president of Signature Bank.”

“We know some builders who are leasing new construction property even if the proceeds don’t fully cover their interest note because something is always better than nothing,’ Head said.”

“‘I am seeing new construction at price levels of $129,000 and higher now fronting signage ‘For sale or lease,’ said Austin Bivens, real estate agent in Springdale.”

The Democrat Gazette from Arkansas. “Landquest Communities of Arkansas was the largest developer in Bentonville before a bank filed foreclosure suits for loans totaling more than $ 20 million, a former employee said Tuesday.”

“The foreclosure is for the largest amount of outstanding debt to date for Benton County but it might not be the largest by the end of the year, warned Kathy Deck, director of the Center for Business and Economic Research at the University of Arkansas at Fayetteville.”

“‘When you look at the amount of housing inventory out there, then you realize there will have to be shake-outs and big shake-outs at that,’ she said. ‘It is a very painful part of the process of getting this market back into equilibrium.’”

The Tyler Morning Telegraph from Texas. “What some real estate agents called new, innovative ways to obtain home financing a few years ago has turned around to bite the borrower. Or, perhaps the borrower should have waited to qualify for a prime quality loan, said Guillermo Covarrubias, assistant professor of economics at The University of Texas at Tyler.”

“‘These people have so little equity on their houses, that they find it really easy to just walk out,’ he said. ‘They’re not going to lose a lot of equity, so they’re tempted to say, ‘Well, I’m just going to stop paying and let them come and repossess the house.’ They already have bad credit anyway.’”

“‘The foreclosures are higher than they were a year or two years ago in Tyler,’ said Margie Fisher, loan officer for Republic Mortgage Home Loans and owner of B4Closure of Tyler. ‘I do think that we’ve seen a slowdown in the purchases, mainly because people are scared.’”

“As more people default, the local market could see a little bit of a housing glut. ‘Time on the market is starting to increase a little bit,’ she said. ‘I believe that since we still get a large amount of people moving in from Dallas - retirees - we’re somewhat insulated where other parts of the country are not.’”

The Dallas Morning News from Texas. “North Texas home foreclosure postings for the first nine months of 2007 show that almost 31,000 homes valued at more than $4.5 billion have been scheduled for forced sale by lenders…a jump of 12 percent in number and 19 percent in value from the same period of 2006.”

“More than half of the Dallas-Fort Worth home loans in foreclosure this year are held by the country’s biggest mortgage firms, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Foreclosure Listing Service found.”

“Only about 1 percent of the foreclosure postings for the first nine months of 2007 were for houses valued at more than $500,000. Foreclosure Listing Service CEO George Roddysaid those numbers could increase now that lenders are charging higher interest rates for so-called jumbo loans, over $417,000.”

“‘There’s a big issue now with these jumbo loans and all the speculative homebuilding out there,’ he said. ‘That’s got to be of concern to these builders.’”

The Record reports on Texas. “Today, public and private investors are sinking billions of dollars into Galveston’s building boom. Although Galveston is still partially gritty, that hasn’t deterred buyers from the Northeast in search of bargains.”

“Some blue-collar BOIs (local-speak for those born on the island), complain of a shortage of affordable housing, citing rising rents and property taxes. Other longtime residents express discontent over the town’s increasingly touristy feel.”

“Last year, Lee Avery, a Brooklyn-based traveling salesman, and his wife, bought a restored 3,300-square-foot five-bedroom, three-bathroom Victorian four blocks from the beach for $350,000.”

“‘Whenever there is change, someone is not going to be satisfied, but I think most people agree that this sort of change in Galveston is for the better,’ said Avery. ‘Folks back in Jersey and the Big Apple had better come down and take a look before the whole country takes notice and prices go through the roof.’”

The Galveston County Daily News from Texas. “Loan defaults and foreclosures in the county are soaring as once starry-eyed island speculators renege on multimillion-dollar loans and hundreds of families are unable to make mortgage payments on homes in subdivisions across the mainland.”

“July foreclosures on properties in Galveston County rose 484 percent to 146 from 25 for the same month last year, according to Bargain Network. So far this year, banks have moved to foreclose on 596 local properties, compared with 289 in the last eight months of 2006.”

“What Happened? Banks competing fiercely for loans and the fees they generate began offering easy credit with exotic terms that helped to fuel a five-year housing hot streak that began to cool last year, industry observers say.”

“‘Lenders didn’t check whether stated income was correct,’ said Harris L. Kempner Jr., president and portfolio manager of island-based Kempner Capital Management. ‘They didn’t insist on down payments for homes and condos; they violated a whole lot hard-earned rules of lending.’”

“‘What’s clear is that there are tightening standards for lending everywhere,’ Kempner said. ‘Those who ordinarily have no trouble at all in a logical real estate market are having more trouble than they would have ever expected.’”

The Express News from Texas. “Thanks a lot, National Real Estate Market. And you too, Mortgage Meltdown. Things were going just fine in San Antonio until you showed up.”

“Now, San Antonio’s once-smoking real estate market is cooling further because of national pressures that no longer can be ignored.”

“The inventory of pre-owned homes for sale reached 12,470 at the end of July, about 33 percent higher than it was at this time last year, according to the San Antonio Board of Realtors. The inventory is so high that San Antonio is on the brink of becoming a buyer’s market for the first time in several years.”

“The biggest concerns for local builders are things they have no control over: the swelling inventory in the existing-home market and the uncertainty in the mortgage lending industry, said Randall Allsup, manager of the San Antonio division of Metrostudy.”

“In San Antonio, it looks as if there might be an oversupply of new homes in the $250,000 range, Allsup said. ‘There’s been an over-response on the mortgage side. In some cases, people with good credit aren’t able to get a home loan.’”

“The lower demand means builders such as David Anderson of David Anderson Homes have struggled to sell off their inventory homes this year. ‘A lot of builders, myself included, got caught with inventory,’ he said.”

“Anderson purchased more lots and will open new neighborhoods this year. ‘I’ve seen it a whole lot worse,’ said Anderson, who started building homes in the late 1980s. ‘We’re not making a lot of money, but I’m holding my own and we’re turning inventory.’”




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Comment by JayInMD
2007-09-02 09:24:12

“When he told her the home would bring $1,500 a month tops, she knew that her choices were limited. He said the house she bought was likely overpriced.”

LIKELY? ythink? DUH!!!

Comment by Chip
2007-09-02 09:43:58

Heck, what about $1,500/mo. in Arkansas? Isn’t that pretty high, there? Maybe someone who’s already been foreclosed on can make her an offer — sort of cascading renters.

Comment by txchick57
2007-09-02 09:47:35

Incredible, isn’t it? NW Arkansas is really really pretty. It would be a nice place for someone who has a good job and telecommutes. But then, so would Sedona, Santa Fe, Missoula, lots of other places.

Comment by Anthony
2007-09-02 10:03:31

Missoula, Montana sucks. The place is eternally filled with smoke.

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Comment by SawItComing
2007-09-02 10:31:32

Missoula and Kalispell are also meccas for California socialists

 
Comment by Lost in Utah
2007-09-02 11:00:50

was through there a few days ago, wanted to stop for coffee, but my lungs started hurting, you could barely even make out a town…but it’s paradise next to Butte…

 
 
Comment by JayInMD
2007-09-02 10:16:25

There are lots of nice places to live that are now totally out of whack on the affordability scale.

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Comment by JudyNWARealtor
2007-09-03 21:10:14

NW Arkansas IS really a nice place to live. We relocated here from the East Coast about 14 years ago and have not regretted it–4 seasons (beautiful spring and fall, winter not too cold), beautiful landscape, small town atmosphere but there is still a lot to do, easy to travel to other places, etc. A great place to raise our son–good schools with caring teachers, etc.

Aside from the natural beauty of the area, the thing we have liked best is a more “laid back” attitude. My husband used to have to wear a sports jacket to work; now he can dress more casually. Commutes are short if a person is still working and buys a home close to work. Quality of life is high.

Prices for homes are still affordable compared to the rest of the country. I have helped many people retiring here from other parts of the country, who sold their high-dollar homes and purchased a nicer home here for about half the money and were able to invest the rest. The situation hasn’t changed much, since it’s all proportional. Even though prices for homes here have risen, a home in NW Arkansas is still a “good deal” and the quality of life is still here….

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Comment by Bye FL
2007-09-02 09:47:34

Her best option was to simply walk away and this is what she did. Rent would bleed her a slow death.

 
Comment by Lost in Utah
2007-09-02 09:48:02

Arkansas? They say we topped 300 million in the US recently, sometimes I think most of them bought real estate on spec, every state has tons of stories…

Comment by NYCityBoy
2007-09-02 11:02:07

I was in Rogers, Arkansas in 2002 or 2003. I can’t remember. I was just amazed at the amount of building going on. The client I was with bragged how it was the “second fastest growing area of the country, after Las Vegas.” It was ALL predicated on Walmart booming forever. There is no other explanation. How is Walmart doing nowadays? Oops!

 
 
Comment by JudyNWARealtor
2007-09-03 20:30:02

The key to purchasing a property anywhere (and at any time) is to have a reputable buyer agent. A lot of folks don’t want to deal with real estate agents, view them as “vultures”, etc., but when times like this roll around, an experienced buyer agent who knows the market and will do a market analysis for the buyer is invaluable. And in Arkansas, there’s no extra cost to the buyer if the property is listed by a real estate firm (it’s already incorporated into the list price).

It’s easy to find properties on line at many websites, but there’s no substitute for a professional’s local knowledge of the real estate market. If a potential property seems too good to be true, it probably is. Investors also need to do their home work–whatever happened to “due diligence”? There was a lot of greed floating around in the past few years by investors who wanted to capitalize on double-digit appreciation, not only in NW Arkansas but elsewhere, and now the chickens have come home to roost.

 
 
Comment by memmel
2007-09-02 09:29:43

What about around Little Rock it seems to have had as much speculation as the NorthWest part of the state ? I was their visiting my parents and saw vast tracks of McMansions that made no sense considering the economy.

Comment by Ben Jones
2007-09-02 09:32:21

I’ve been tracking this mess in Arkansas for a long time. Not only do they have way too many houses, but they built too high up the income scale. We’ve already seen more small and mid-size builder defaults there than almost anywhere else, as I recall.

Comment by txchick57
2007-09-02 09:44:10

Little Rock, San Antonio, McAllen, Corpus Christi, Galveston, Tyler . . . all the same. Everyone everywhere building giant overpiced crap for those elusive “luxury” buyers or baby boomers.

Tyler’s a really nice little town but it is East Texas with all that that entails. I think people will know what I’m alluding to.

Comment by Lip
2007-09-02 09:47:51

Actually, no, what are you alluding to? Small, Redneck hich town?

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Comment by txchick57
2007-09-02 09:55:24

Think Deliverance.

 
Comment by mikey
2007-09-02 10:46:14

“Think Deliverance” Wow, 2 short words with a lot of thought…and that cured me txchick57 :)

 
 
Comment by P'cola Popper
2007-09-02 10:05:49

I had two roomates from Tyler my freshmen year at UT. I know what you mean. Hillbilly with a capital “H”.

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Comment by Lip
2007-09-02 10:10:17

Idiots, let’s hope their new boy friends in prison will teach them a lesson they’ll never forget.

 
Comment by JayInMD
2007-09-02 10:18:49

Two of them have been put to death I believe. Texas has a drive thru, no waiting philosophy on the death penalty.

 
Comment by jerry from richardson
2007-09-02 12:56:27

Most of Texas is fine, but I stay away from those little East Texas towns.

 
 
Comment by fries with that?
2007-09-02 15:04:20

I lived in Tyler a couple of years ago. It’s a town of 100,000 halfway between Dallas and Shreveport, with no other towns of comparable anywhere near it. The upper class population is divided between the “Old Money” people who got rich off the East Texas oil fields and the “New Money” people who earn big salaries at the medical center. Two colleges (UT Tyler and Tyler Junior College) provide some good jobs. For many workers, however, wages are dismal. Some trades that pay well other places in Texas pay peanuts in Tyler. When I lived in town, there was very little new development. I’m shocked to see Tyler mentioned on this blog. The speculative contagion really was everywhere.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2007-09-02 10:38:03

“… they built too high up the income scale.”

Ben — Are you sure you aren’t talking about San Diego?

Comment by NYCityBoy
2007-09-02 11:07:09

Or New York, or Minnesota, or Florida, or Phoenix, or Las Vegas, or Seattle, or Oregon, or……….?

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Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2007-09-02 09:33:42

“Some blue-collar BOIs (local-speak for those born on the island), complain of a shortage of affordable housing, citing rising rents and property taxes. Other longtime residents express discontent over the town’s increasingly touristy feel.”

Ditto for Boone, NC

 
Comment by Hondje
2007-09-02 09:39:37

We used to go to Galveston every summer when I was a kid growing up in Houston. Beaches were always covered in dead jelly fish and tar or some other petroleum based gook coming from the refineries in the area…I can’t imagine retirees who can afford $350K houses ever wanting to move there.

Comment by txchick57
2007-09-02 09:45:42

If there is a more distasteful thought than Atlantic City Sopranos types running around in Galveston, I can’t think of one right now. Galveston beaches are simply awful. The water is putrid.

 
Comment by skrook
2007-09-02 10:29:07

I guess those folks forgot about two years ago when no one could get out of Galveston when hurricanes were threatening. I seem to remember a 180 mile traffice jam on I-45.

 
 
Comment by crazyintheOC
2007-09-02 09:49:55

The thing that still gets me is that we have all this complaining about how bad things are now but in most places prices have not come down much if at all. The 2 markets I am familiar with are Vegas and So Cal. Homes are not selling but I still do not see much in the way of reductions, seems there is still resistance to the inevitable pain laying ahead, I belive this will come in 2008. It is funny,the RE people keep saying they expect a recovery soon. A RECOVERY TO WHAT!-Making 25% a year on appreciation. Dont they understand that the last 5 years were the abberation not the norm?

Now, what they must also realize is that there is now a basic SICKNESS in the bubble RE markets, the homes are OVERPRICED due to this mania of the last 5 years. Prices MUST and WILL return to the historical fundamentals(whether it is 120x the monthly rent, 3x the average salary-whatever), but until they return to historic norm this sickness will exist. Now, how do you cure a sickness, easy-take your medicine. What is the medicine? Lower prices. Sounds simple right? But no, they want to talk about rate reductions, bail out plans, and other ways to keep prices artificially propped up. Well the first shoe has fallen-the mortgage lenders have tightened up-the rest will be downhill.

Home owners, speculators, flippers-IT IS OVER-TAKE YOUR MEDICINE!

Sorry for the venting but this is very frustrating.

Comment by Bye FL
2007-09-02 09:59:21

Rant away. I couldn’t agree more. The bailout, if any will be very limited and a total failure. This has been discussed many times, we can rest easy that nothing can stop prices from crashing due to what we call fundamentals!

Let em’ crash!

Comment by jbunniii
2007-09-02 10:17:38

I have a great idea that will help fix our two biggest problems at the moment. Why not offer a bailout to anyone who wants one, provided that they agree to serve in Iraq for a few years? Then we’ll see who is willing to work to fix their mistake, versus who is just looking for a handout.

Comment by Lionel
2007-09-02 10:46:14

I suggest we send all the realtors to Iraq. Tell them there’s a bubble there. Semper fee.

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Comment by NYCityBoy
2007-09-02 11:15:29

I don’t know if that is a great plan. It certainly won’t stabilize the country. More people will be blowing themselves up, just to get away from the sales pitches of those vultures.

“This is an up and coming neighborhood that has great potential for a family looking for a home to raise a family with little street traffic. Those bomb craters spell “opportunity”. Prices are sure to only go up as this area is different and special and we will work with you to get financing that fits your special…..” KABOOM!!!!

 
Comment by not a gator
2007-09-02 13:30:46

“Semper fee”

I don’t know if that was on purpose or not, but–brilliant.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Lip
2007-09-02 10:07:56

CinOC,

“Home owners, speculators, flippers-IT IS OVER-TAKE YOUR MEDICINE”

I correspond with a well to do friend in Yorba Linda (think $2 mil + home) and he said that things in his area were still fairly normal, which I find hard to believe, but he said it.

I know a couple of guys, near 65 yrs old, who were hoping their homes would finance their retirement. They don’t want to know that their plans are down the crapper!

It is frustrating, but what we’ve known and talked about for a long time is about to come to pass and a lot of friends are going to be hurt for the rest of their lives. Friends and Families are gonna have to take care of each other, which will be a good thing.

Comment by crazyintheOC
2007-09-02 10:24:07

I had dinner last week with 2 friends who were visiting Vegas from South Florida. They said you can not sell a home in Florida now at any price. I said “of course you can, at the right price” ,they still said no. I gave them an example, take the home that was 200K in 2000 that is now for sale for 550K(that nobody is even looking at) list it for 260K(a fair 25% proit for 7 years) and it would sell fast-they agreed-FUNDAMENTALS!

As soon as people let go of this idea that owning a home and flipping is a license to never work again,things will start to happen-I am sticking with 2008-I will probably buy again sometime in 2009.

Comment by crisrose
2007-09-02 11:04:33

Owning a home and flipping is a license to never work again

Exactly! Which is why no one should feel sorry for anyone whose delusions of wealth allowed them to believe their house would fund their retirement. You don’t want to work after a certain age? Work your a$$ off, save every cent, pay off your house, then retire and live frugally.

People are going to get exactly what they deserve - you can’t cheat an honest man - and honest decent people don’t expect a ‘free’ retirement.

They can now work as Walmart greeters and McDonalds counter help until the day they die.

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Comment by IllinoisBob
2007-09-02 10:30:19

110% agree! I’m frustrated in the northern ex-burbs of Chicago! I would like to be within 20 miles of the city instead of the current 40. BUT 500K+ vs 250K FORGET IT! Inventory is high, sales slow & STILL the @%^&! sellers want to sock it to ya!

Comment by Jay_Huhman
2007-09-02 11:46:10

Actually, you can be within 20 miles of the Loop in a 3/2 in a decent school district for 300-350K, but you won’t be near the lake, in a new place or the New Trier district.

Comment by Joe Schmoe
2007-09-03 06:39:14

You can even be in the New Trier district if you are willing to settle for a small, dilapidated place, or a condo.

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Comment by SoBay
2007-09-02 10:32:18

The 2 markets I am familiar with are Vegas and So Cal. Homes are not selling

- That is not true of So Cal … the farther you move from Los Angeles the bigger the price drops

Comment by crazyintheOC
2007-09-02 11:49:48

Yes, I agree that if you go to the IE or Riverside the prices are dropping somewhat. But in the LA area not much at all.

 
 
Comment by dave
2007-09-02 14:37:39

I would like to believe prices will return to the norm, but I think we have to look to the mind-blowing home-owner subsidies in Europe to see how the special interests will pressure governments at all levels to prevent significant price declines. This includes realtors, home builders, retail, finance, banks, hedge funds, mutual funds, FCBs, and Wall Street. With homeowners at 70%, any plan to prop up home prices will get a cheer from the voting majority. These bailouts/incentives will be incremental, so the taxpayer wont notice the creeping subsidies to homeowners. I believe I read that there already more than 300 Federal subsidies/incentives/tax advantages for home ownership. In 1920 who would have believed that could happen. If you think you have any voice in this, how many $10,000 checks have you written to your congress whore lately?

 
 
Comment by crispy&cole
2007-09-02 09:52:18

” 31,000 homes valued at more than $4.5 billion”

No bubble in Texas, move along, nothing to see here…

Comment by taxpat
2007-09-02 12:16:49

Isn’t it interesting that 1/2 of the foreclosures in Dallas are Fannie or Freddie properties? I thought that these guys only dealt in prime mortgages, and that this was a subprime melt-down only.

Let’s assume that a lender takes a 30% haircut on the nominal value of the loan, on average (which is probably pretty generous, especially for the bubble areas). $4.5 billion * 50% = $2.25 billion for Fannie & Freddie. 30% haircut on that = $750 million. In Dallas. Now, multiply that by about a 100 to get an idea of the impact on F&F nationwide. Let’s see…$75 billion in lost equity. At what point does the “unofficial” government backing step in to protect Fannie and Freddie? Does anyone else think that these guys are in for a world of hurt?

 
Comment by jerry from richardson
2007-09-02 13:05:49

Just lots and lots of overbuilding. I was about I buy a Fannie REO (2200sf 4/2 @ $139K). It’s in very nice condition in a nice neighborhood built in 1999.

There are some bubble areas closer to downtown where idiots are paying $500K for zero lot McMansions. The surburbs are still at $70-80/sf, which isn’t bad considring most employment opportunities are in the burbs.

I did hear a realtor say that we’re running out of land in Texas. LOL

 
 
Comment by crispy&cole
2007-09-02 09:55:18

San Antonio - LMAO.

Every former speculator in Bakersfield was calling SA the next boom market in late 2006/ early 2007. Looks like they jumped from the frying pan right into the fire.

Comment by Lip
2007-09-02 10:49:53

C&C
Just checked to see how the locals in Bakersfield are doing. Man, how long can those guys stay out of jail?

Comment by crispy&cole
2007-09-02 11:45:33

I dont know, but I hope it is soon… LOL

 
 
 
Comment by builderboy
2007-09-02 09:55:42

What wreckage to the economy will be done when there is no appreciation in homes for a 4 year span?Starting with buyers in 2005 and on.

The 2 year buy and holders we have no love for, but you get into the 4 year cycle, Man, that is bad with a big B.

 
Comment by JayInMD
2007-09-02 10:07:56

Are you trying to say that baby boomers aren’t moving to NW Ark in droves? Or was that FL? Or AZ? OR……..

 
Comment by SoBay
2007-09-02 10:09:47

“‘These people have so little equity on their houses, that they find it really easy to just walk out,’ he said. ‘They’re not going to lose a lot of equity, so they’re tempted to say, ‘Well, I’m just going to stop paying and let them come and repossess the house.’ They already have bad credit anyway.’”

-Juan Sixpacks credit was shot from the beginning - he doesn’t care. He will keep the Hummer / New Pickup Truck and the Jet Skis and move on.
- Oh! I gotta go, Eric Estrada is on with special lake property ….

Comment by are they crazy
2007-09-02 10:13:39

Is it California Pines? They’ve been selling that pit for 50 years - if they haven’t sold out by now, it has to tell you something about the place.

Comment by JayInMD
2007-09-02 10:21:35

Last yr, ole Eric pitched some FL swamp land and FL went bust. This yr, its NW Ark and its gone bust. Is there a pattern there???

 
 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2007-09-02 11:21:25

And now the Bush Plan calls for not sending a 1099 to people that are involved in foreclosures and short sales. That will only expedite the process of people saying “f-ck it” and tossing the keys to the satellite dish.

To quote Mr. Young:
“Some get stoned,
some get strange,
But sooner or later
it all gets real.

Walk on, walk on,”

Comment by Neil
2007-09-02 11:46:10

I agree. It will expedite the process.

As the President said, all you have to do is get 90 days behind in your mortgage and relief is on the way. ;)

I’m going to blog (latter) my weekend conversations. We have delusional out there. But what I love, is 90% of the delusion is with folks who aren’t looking to buy. And the 10% of the delusional who would like to buy cannot get a loan. Bwaaa haaa ha!

Got popcorn?
Neil

 
 
 
Comment by Jen Bones
2007-09-02 10:28:28

“‘The foreclosures are higher than they were a year or two years ago in Tyler,’ said Margie Fisher, loan officer for Republic Mortgage Home Loans and owner of B4Closure of Tyler. ‘I do think that we’ve seen a slowdown in the purchases, mainly because people are scared.’”

All these real-estate acronyms confuse the H E double hockey sticks out of me.

O, now I C.
G, u r a clever 1, MarG.
I nv u.

Luv, Jen

Comment by Lost in Utah
2007-09-02 10:56:03

how about H-E-doublehockeysticks - what the H does that half-acronym stand for?? LOL

 
Comment by builderboy
2007-09-02 12:13:15

Hit me that way also, losing your biggest investment and your life is in tatters , come to my cutesy name office for help.

right.

 
 
Comment by crazyintheOC
2007-09-02 10:30:47

Has every body seen this jackass Fed Governor Mishkin urging a bailout to keep home prices propped up? Lunacy! Very frustrating!

Comment by NYCityBoy
2007-09-02 11:26:15

Mishkin seems to be just another over-employed boob.

“Short cuts, quick sales, easy profits – it is all very American…Nowhere else on earth is genuine competence so rare. The average American plumber cannot plumb; the average American cook cannot cook; the average American literary gent has nothing to say, and says it with rubber stamps.”
- H.L. Mencken

And the average American Fed Governor has the ability to be neither insightful or honest. Woohoo!

 
Comment by jerry from richardson
2007-09-02 13:13:18

The problem is that very few of these Fed Guvs have ever had a real job outside of acadamia or government. They are just plain clueless. I don’t know how he thinks he can force people to buy overpriced shacks and go into a lifetime of debt slavery. I would sooner leave the country than sign up to be a slave of the banks.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2007-09-02 10:36:52

“More than 300 homes in Northwest Arkansas sit empty, ‘hidden’ in plain sight. Many of those homes show no signs of life. The grass has grown up and stacks of bricks sit in the garage. No ‘For Sale’ sign adorns the front yard.”

Is the Fed, or maybe Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, going to step in here and prop up the price of these empty homes in NW Arkansas? Bulldozers may eventually be required to demolish these unwanted investment homes, as the the stuck flippers who currently hold the bag are unlikely to ever find any greater fools on whom to dump them.

P.S. Believe it or not, there are lots of empty investment homes “hidden in plain site” in San Diego County, too. I would guess the number is much bigger than 300.

 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2007-09-02 10:51:32

An ad for a local condo project says “Hurry! Only ten units left!” Thing is, they’ve been saying for over a year that there are only ten units left!

Comment by jerry from richardson
2007-09-02 13:09:55

Plenty of new Ryland townhomes near me have been sitting empty for two years now. Asking prices have dropped from $280 to $190. Drop it to $120 and I might bite. On the other hand, it’s too close to the barrios.

 
 
Comment by Former Hillbillie
2007-09-02 10:56:03

Galveston and Texas coastal real estate - Another thing is, you have to find someone to insure your property. This is not as easy as it used to be post Katrina. In years past, the Galveston beach houses were little more than 1 BR cabins on stilts. If it was washed away or blown down, it could be replaced for $30k or more. Now, the McMansion crowd has built some really nice homes, which are basically uninsurable. The building has moved farther and farther down West Beach toward the end of the Island. There is no seawall there, and even a minor storm threatens to swallow the island. Poor planning and greed will cause a lot more problems going forth.
Hey, if you think Tyler is bad you oughta see places to the east of it.

Comment by txchick57
2007-09-02 11:06:37

I have, trust me. I rescue a lot of animals out in East Texas. There are times I’ve felt it necessary to carry a gun.

Comment by Mugsy
2007-09-02 11:19:46

Listings here in Corpus have doubled since we moved here at the peak in August 2005. They never come down much either. Even the “elite” waterfront properties on Padre Island have started to come down in price. BTW, if you’re looking for a townhome there are hundreds of them out here on the island for sale or for rent. Seems like those little critters sprung up everywhere and now nobody seems to want to feed them ;)

 
 
Comment by de
2007-09-02 14:33:34

Yep. Locals ran Red Cross damage assessors off with a shotgun following Rita. I know… I was runing like hell.

 
Comment by luvin_grits
2007-09-02 19:28:07

Hey, Hey,
I went to Kilgore JC and while I could be convinced to agree East Tex could stand some updating, the Rangerettes made life easy on the eyes.
Besides, there is a BBQ place just to the NE of Tyler (still there according to reports) that has some of the best eating anywhere. Probably not out in the middle of no where now though. And to date myself, the Rio Palm Isle was in Longview if you had a hankering to get into mischief. (sp?)

 
 
Comment by UKBottomFisher
2007-09-02 11:21:10

Eastern regional TV in the UK a couple of days ago had a report of a homeless man living in a tent on Great Yarmouth beach.

Perhaps this indicates the 10% year on year growth in house prices in the UK ?

 
Comment by Lost in Utah
2007-09-02 11:31:36

NYCityBoy posted this yest. - it’s just too good - if you haven’t watched it, it will make your day, very funny

http://tinyurl.com/37gth4

 
Comment by hhh
2007-09-02 11:49:49

Also from the DMN article:

” And fewer than 2,000 of the foreclosures – about 6 percent of the total – were from homeowners defaulting on home equity loans.

“It has not impacted the market as much as I thought they would,” Mr. Roddy said. ”

Looks like allowing HELOC’s hasn’t caused the crisis predicted by some, at least not yet.

 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2007-09-02 12:16:52

“More than 300 homes in Northwest Arkansas sit empty, ‘hidden’ in plain sight. Many of those homes show no signs of life. The grass has grown up and stacks of bricks sit in the garage. No ‘For Sale’ sign adorns the front yard.”

Call in Pancho - Erik Estrada to the rescue. He can pimp your RE to anyone at anyprice.

 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2007-09-02 12:16:53

“More than 300 homes in Northwest Arkansas sit empty, ‘hidden’ in plain sight. Many of those homes show no signs of life. The grass has grown up and stacks of bricks sit in the garage. No ‘For Sale’ sign adorns the front yard.”

Call in Pancho - Erik Estrada to the rescue. He can pimp your RE to anyone at anyprice.

 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2007-09-02 12:19:16

John Sullivan, broker in Tontitown, recently tried to work with a lady in Southern California who bought a newly built home in Northwest Arkansas as a real estate investment. He said the lady called and asked him to help her lease the property to cover her $3,100 monthly mortgage.”

Hey, Mrs. Dumbass. Do you really think people are going to pay $3100 to rent a house in Arkansas? What turnip truck did you fall off of? I wouldn’t pay that much in Los Angeles or San Francisco, where I lived for years. I know AR is a fraction of their cost.

 
Comment by bizarroworld
2007-09-02 16:48:48

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but even in the non bubble area of Rochester, NY, the housing/credit crunch is felt:

Home starts are lagging
Tight credit, rising costs slow new construction
http://tinyurl.com/2cdrss

 
Comment by Sue
2007-09-02 19:08:44

“‘I am seeing new construction at price levels of $129,000 and higher now fronting signage ‘For sale or lease,’ said Austin Bivens, real estate agent in Springdale.”

Here in Highland, UT, it’s all starting to hit the fan. There’s a ton of inventory here. Tons of brand new luxury homes built on spec this summer that have “Lease to Own” signs out front…

 
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