Further Reduction In Prices May Be Required
Some housing bubble news from Wall Street and Washington. Associated Press, “The National Association of Realtors reported Monday that…over the last 12 months, however, existing home sales have plunged 20 percent, underscoring the troubles in the housing sector. Home prices continued to sink. The median price of a home sold last month was $210,200. That marked a 3.3 percent drop from a year ago. It was the fifth biggest annual decline on record.”
“The inventory of unsold homes in November was 4.27 million homes. At the current sales pace it would take 10.3 months to exhaust that overhang. ‘Inventory is still high and further reduction in prices may be required in some areas to induce buyers back into the market,’ said the association’s chief economist, Lawrence Yun.”
“Regionally, existing-home sales in the West are 25.0 percent below a year ago. In the Midwest, existing-home salesare 16.9 percent below November 2006. Existing-home sales in the South are 19.4 percent below a year ago. Existing-home sales in the Northeast are 19.4 percent below November 2006.”
From MarketWatch. “Sales of existing homes are down 31% from the peak of 7.21 million two years ago.”
“Homebuilder M/I Homes Inc. said it will take charges of about $80 million in the fourth quarter on the sale of 3,700 lots and expects further impairment charges related to its inventory during the quarter.”
“As part of the sales, M/I Homes also sold all its current lots in the West Palm Beach, Fla. area and is completely exiting development in the market.”
From Bloomberg. “London Scottish Bank Plc, the U.K. lender to customers with poor credit histories, fell the most in a decade in London trading after saying it will take a charge of as much as 22 million pounds ($44 million) to cover losses.”
“London Scottish said in a separate statement it had ’strengthened’ its lending criteria for new mortgage business.”
“Defaults on privately insured U.S. mortgages rose 35 percent in November to a record, an industry report today showed, adding to evidence the U.S. housing slump is deepening.”
“The number of insured borrowers falling more than 60 days late on payments jumped to 61,033 last month from 45,325 in November 2006, according to the Mortgage Insurance Companies of America. The missed payments, often a prelude to foreclosure, represented a 2.9 percent increase from October.”
“Australian mortgage-backed bond sales fell to the lowest in three years as the fallout from the U.S. housing recession cut demand for the assets in the second half of the year.”
“Sales of bonds backed by Australian home loans plunged 87 percent in the last six months to A$5.9 billion ($5.2 billion), from a record high of A$44.4 billion in the first half of the year, according to Deutsche Bank AG.”
“Yield premiums continued to increase, leading Sydney-based Bluestone Group Ltd., a non-bank lender, to pay a record high 108 basis points on A$400 million of top-rated debt Dec. 7, more than five times what it paid to raise funds in March.”
From BBC News. “After previous financial disasters caused by excessive bank lending, regulators developed rules to limit how many loans a bank could have on its balance sheet. But, across America, banks were lending far more than that 10 to 1 ratio.”
“How had they managed to do it? The first technique banks used to circumvent regulators’ rules is known as ’securitisation’ - a way of a bank getting loans it had already made off its balance sheet. They did this by selling their loans off to pension funds, insurance companies, even to other banks around the world.”
“The banks’ loans should have been hard to sell because they were low quality - since they were issued with no questions asked, there was little assurance they could be repaid.”
“But the banks had an answer to that. To make their risky loans appear attractive to buyers, banks used complex financial engineering to repackage them so they looked super-safe and paid returns well above what equivalent super-safe investments offered.”
“Even savvy Wall Street veteran and billionaire Wilbur Ross could not figure out what was happening.”
“‘What they were fundamentally doing was taking a $100 pile of low quality securities and creating something they could sell to investors for $103,’ he says. ‘So there was an alchemy - making more price than there was value.’”
The Orange County Register. “What became a global financial crisis had roots in Orange County. Securitization of mortgages wasn’t invented here. Fannie Mae had been doing that for decades with conventional mortgages. And subprime lending – previously known as ‘hard money’ or C and D lending to people with subprime credit – had a long history.”
“But until the 1990s, subprime lenders like Long Beach Savings could only resell their mortgages to private investors willing to take bigger risks for higher returns. Once Wall Street began issuing public securities, the lenders’ capital grew exponentially.”
“A clear plastic plaque on William Komperda’s desk memorializes a 1990 deal that helped launch the made-in-Orange County subprime lending bonanza. Dated June 28, 1990, the plaque commemorates $70,732,555 of bonds underwritten by Komperda’s Connecticut-based firm, Greenwich Capital.”
“It was the first time his client, Long Beach Savings F.S.B., publicly placed securities backed by subprime mortgages. ‘We thought it was just a niche market,’ Komperda said of the initial securities offering. ‘It grew beyond what we imagined.’”
“By 2005, the peak year of subprime mortgage securities offerings, Wall Street sold $508 billion worth of the issues, according to Inside Mortgage Finance. Investors around the world purchased the securities, a boom that went bust this year.”
The Wall Street Journal. “During the housing boom, the subprime industry succeeded at more than just writing mortgages. It also shot down efforts by some states to curtail risky lending to borrowers with spotty credit.”
“Ameriquest Mortgage Co., until recently one of the nation’s largest subprime lenders, was at the center of those battles. Working with a husband-and-wife team of Washington lobbyists, it handed out more than $20 million in political donations and played a big role in persuading legislators in New Jersey and Georgia to relax tough new laws.”
“Those victories, in turn, helped blunt efforts by other states to crack down on reckless lending, critics of the industry contend.”
“Executives at Ameriquest, based in Orange, Calif., acknowledge that the company lobbied heavily against state lending restrictions, but say that other subprime lenders did so as well. In fact, a host of subprime lenders and banking trade groups, including Citigroup Inc., Wells Fargo & Co., Countrywide Financial Corp. and the Mortgage Bankers Association, spent heavily on lobbying and political giving.”
“Federal lawmakers didn’t pose much of a threat to the subprime industry in recent years. Members of Congress received at least $645,000 in donations from Ameriquest and large sums from other big subprime lenders, Federal Election Commission records indicate. They debated new oversight of the industry, but took no action.”
From Reuters. “Merrill Lynch & Co is in talks with Chinese and Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds that could lead to the sale of another big stake in the U.S. bank, British newspaper The Observer reported, citing sources in London and New York.”
“New Chief Executive John Thain has been trying to bolster the company’s capital amid huge subprime mortgage losses. ”
“‘The multi-billion cash injection from Singapore’s Temasek TEM.UL was not enough and Thain is taking calls from a host of other potential saviors, which are understood to include sovereign fund investors from the Gulf and China,’ the newspaper quoted a US observer as saying.”
“A source told the Observer: ‘Thain is desperately seeking an additional infusion of foreign capital to bolster Merrill’s balance sheet. It could be done by selling shares or other assets to raise cash.’”
Dow Jones Newswires. “Some of the world’s biggest banks are increasingly turning to governments in Asia and the Middle East for cash to fill gaping holes left by mortgage-related write-downs.”
“The Observer quoted Sanford Bernstein analyst Brad Hintz saying Thain is seeking capital from foreign investors to offset a large fourth-quarter write- down. The newspaper reported Thain and other Merrill executives plan to work through the New Year holiday on strategies to save the bank if the credit crunch worsens further.”
“A possible merger with another banking group has not been ruled out but was seen as an ‘extreme scenario,’ according to the report.”
National Mortgage News. “One question some of you might be asking is this: if subprime volumes have screeched to a halt, what are all those traders on Wall Street doing? Good question. We’re told that come January there will be a wholesale shakeup at several firms.”
“Sources tell us that Deutsche Bank, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch all are conducting reviews (or soon will) of their entire mortgage operations. As for where the most drastic changes might occur, Merrill Lynch might be a good bet.”
“An account executive there told us recently about conditions at Merrill’s First Franklin Financial Corp. He said many offices are not funding loans while awaiting training for Fannie Mae products.”
“‘So far, there’s been no training,’ he told us. The AE, requesting his name not be used, painted a bleak picture, saying business is so slow that employees pass the day playing Scrabble and PlayStation on the conference room projector screen.”
“He said FFFC AEs and executives keep asking Merrill why they can’t just originate loans and put them on the balance sheet of Merrill’s FDIC-insured bank. ‘We’re not getting any answers,’ he said.”
“The last word of the year: Mortgage executives, financial analysts, politicians, consumer advocates and journalists, to name but a few, are now analyzing just what went wrong in subprimeland. Readers of National Mortgage News and our affiliates already know the answer to the blame-game question of ‘Who did it?’”
“Mortgage bankers, brokers, Wall Street financiers, appraisers, underwriters, rating agencies, and yes, consumers, all played a starring role.”
‘Merrill Lynch & Co is in talks with Chinese and Middle Eastern sovereign wealth funds that could lead to the sale of another big stake in the U.S. bank. The Observer quoted Sanford Bernstein analyst Brad Hintz saying Thain is seeking capital from foreign investors to offset a large fourth-quarter write- down. The newspaper reported Thain and other Merrill executives plan to work through the New Year holiday on strategies to save the bank if the credit crunch worsens further.’
‘A possible merger with another banking group has not been ruled out but was seen as an ‘extreme scenario,’ according to the report.’
And wasn’t it just a week or two ago that posters here would argue with me: “Oh, the Fed will never let a WS firm go down, they’re too big to fail.”
And I said, no bail-out is coming, they’ll just have to sell some stock. Well, here we are, as the fattest of the fat-cats go around the globe, doing just that. No bail-out, no super SIV, no taxpayer this or that. Some of the paranoid out there should just pay more attention.
“they’ll just have to sell some stock”
Dow/S&P is gonna get ugly if thats the case.
I see a bull market for begging bowls.
How about a bull market for barf bags?
Will there be any ‘jumpers’ after the barf bags are sold out?
Ben, I was in there, too, saying “ain’t no bailout a-comin’”.
And the foreign interests are just out to pick up some capital assets on the cheap and take control of American banks. They’ll merge with each other to form super-banks, all based overseas, and there you have it folks: the sum total of what a service economy gets you in the end.
The big IBs are already multinationals, I believe.
Wait until they offshore the New York headquarters to Singapore, London and Dubai. I wonder who is going to support the luxury condo infrastructure then. Not every government employee is pulling down six or seven figures a year.
As I read this statement I realized how likely this will be. Singapore, Dubai, AbuDhabi, and other Sovereign investment funds have two roles:
1. Make money (duh…)
2. Support their ‘host economies.’
So could we see a transition where ML and other investment banks must relocate staff in order to secure the billions in funding they require?
Per this thought pattern… London would be selling off jobs too.
No bailout needed. But when everyone is begging, there will be some cost to receiving multi-billion dollar ‘gifts.’ I think Dubai has figured out how to populate those man-made islands…
Got popcorn?
Neil
Is that why all the US based airlines are allowed now to increase their routes to China in the next year,to 2yrs?
May end up as a double post, but I was right there with you, Ben, saying “ain’t nobody gonna bail out nobody.”
The foreign capital investors are looking to do the same thing the real estate investors were doing: picking up an undervalued capital asset. And now look where we’re at: a service-based economy with no assets. Wonderful.
When headquarters of the new International MS or Merrill are relocated to Dubai or Qatar, the tax revenue hit to nyc will be jolting. No longer will American MBAs walk into 150k starting jobs…they can fill those with global candidates,without any pesky requirements for citizenship or HB-1 visas. And those jobs are the lifeblood of the Manhattan residentail RE market.
In fact, the federal tax revenue stream should also take a hit, if they incorporate in Dubai, say, following the lead of Halliburton.
And even the top guys may not need a Manhattan place–why sink money there if the real decisions will be made in Shanghai, Dubai and London?
These are interesting New Years predictions. I felt bad for NYCityBoy when I learned about the large bonuses on Wall Street, knowing that it would prolong the slow descent of prices in NYC real estate.
Happy New Year to everyone. I’m sitting here with our new puppy sleeping on my chest. Hopefully we will all have a satisfying 2008.
Spike, you and Neil have hit the proverbial nail on the head. America has basically sold off its investment banks to foreigners, and not a peep of protest from anyone, not the employees, not Congress, not even the fear mongers who rail against outsourcing.
This is in sharp contrast to the Dubai ports deal and my guess is the IB lobbyists are busy circling the wagons on K street to prevent any government intervention or negative news stories about Dubai or Singapore.
Brush up on your Chinese and Arabic language skills?
We have had a Chinese tutor for our 2 year old for over a year.
Why couldn’t you just let your two-year-old BE a two-year-old? They only get one childhood, you know.
Well, Sammy, I agree to a large extent, but those Chinese sounds are nearly impossible to make after a certain young age.
I think my 3-year-old speaks Chinese, but since I don’t know it myself, I can’t be absolutely sure.
There is a delightful irony in all this: the Wall Street crooks, hand-in-hand with their buddies in corporate management, have gutted the middle class over the past generation by outsourcing everything so they could make a few extra bucks while America goes down the tubes into the death spiral of “service sector jobs” with low pay and no benefits. Now, the “masters of the universe” are themselves going to be outsourced.
I have no sympathy for them, and while I don’t like the concept of nations that dislike the US running our banks, I suppose seeing former Wall Street shmucks losing their jobs and perhaps having to experience first-hand the decaying standards of living they have created for the rest of us will have to do…
I will gladly live with the paranoid label until pols stop dropping rumors of bailouts in the works to the press.
Case in point:
Industry banking on FHA to spell relief
By Laura Elder
The Daily News
Published December 31, 2007
Subprime solution:
Galveston County, particularly northern portions where homebuilding has been unbridled, isn’t immune to the subprime mortgage mess that rocked global markets and has families facing foreclosure on their homes.
But some local mortgage lenders say they’re poised to be part of what the real estate industry and bankers hope is a subprime solution.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development in October approved Texas First Bank as a Federal Housing Authority lender. The Federal Housing Authority doesn’t make or guarantee loans, but insures them against default. Popularity of FHA loans dimmed in the 1990s when home values began to soar past maximum loan limits. But FHA loans have lately been much in the news as Congress attempts to sort out the mortgage meltdown.
…
Texas First Mortgage, an affiliate of Texas City-based Texas First Bank, will originate FHA loans with low down payments for home purchases and refinances up to $200,160.
Laddie Howard, vice president in charge of mortgages at Texas First Bank Mortgage, 5675 FM 646, said the FHA loans could offer refinancing options to homeowners who took out low-rate mortgages only to struggle to make monthly payments as adjustable rates began to escalate.
Lawmakers are considering increasing the maximum FHA loan limits to $417,000 and possibly reducing the 3 percent down payment.
“FHA appears to be a very good source of low down payment mortgages,” Howard said. “Anyone with an adjustable-rate mortgage should talk to a mortgage lender.”
http://news.galvestondailynews.com/story.lasso?ewcd=dcfb8281f867f451
Lawmakers are considering increasing the maximum FHA loan limits to $417,000 and possibly reducing the 3 percent down payment.
Bigger loans and no down should solve the foreclosure problem!
not sure how to view the FHLB propping up of CFC as anything but a bailout.
‘not sure how to view the FHLB propping up of CFC as anything but a bailout.’
Because they, um, have to pay it back. With interest. I guess you missed little details like that.
“Because they, um, have to pay it back.”
Again, Ben, I hope you’re right. But what if CFC goes bankrupt before they can pay it back?
“Again, Ben, I hope you’re right. But what if CFC goes bankrupt before they can pay it back?”
In that case, I imagine CFC will enjoy a corporate analogue to household short sale tax relief. And if that case does not materialize, I expect it will be due to other forms of infinite-lived forbearance extended to this ‘too-big-to-fail’ lender.
strategic bankruptcy……you cant smell it yet?
Two thoughts about all this write-down mess.
First, how can these companies be so cas-strapped as to be unable or unwilling to absorb the losses? For example, how can these mega-billion dollar investment banks be so bad off that they need a cash infusion like a 12 yr old needs an advance on allowance?
Second, at what point does everyone FINALLY wake up and realize that this is all just a game of passing the debt around? When does the rest of the world finally say, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, your companies are worth junk and even if we have money invested in your company it is better to let it rot than buy shares or lend any more to you?
This is just mindboggling. I guess the bottom line is that with few exceptions, the entire country, at all levels, is running on debt and mostly debt-fumes at that.
Anyway, I am looking for some answers to these questions, seriously. I can’t understand how this game keeps going. Can Citi really be that bad off? Can BS? Can ML (for a 2nd time ’round)? This is just plain ridiculous now.
And to think, it is only really the bottom of the first inning, may be top of 2nd.
Oh the pain of 2008.
Got cash?
OCDan….”subprime lenders like Long Beach Savings”
Isn’t this the S & L that WAMU puchased so they could get into the subprime market ?? Thats what got them in trouble…
They are so cashed strapped because they were using short-term cheap debt to finance long term high profit debt like RE. It all worked great until the short term lenders found out that the long term debt was not actually AAA and stopped lending. Now the big lenders don’t have money to keep financing the long-term debt
You would think that they would have reserves for just such a thing but reserves like housing equity was thought to be wasted unless put to work so they not only lent out everything they had, but then leveraged it all in hedge funds.
“They are so cashed strapped because they were using short-term cheap debt to finance long term high profit debt like RE. It all worked great until the short term lenders found out that the long term debt was not actually AAA and stopped lending. Now the big lenders don’t have money to keep financing the long-term debt.”
Ding ding ding.
Why are they strapped for cash??
That’s easy. LEVERAGE.
Banks loan at 10:1 margin ration. They are supposed to be required to keep 10% reserve for all the money they lend….those rules have been somewhat relaxed, but the problem is the same:
For every dollar in default, or forclosure, when the balance of loss hits the balance sheets, they need to have 10 more dollars in reserve.
Collapsing deflation of property values is a big hit to the banks balance sheets. That is why they are supposed to get credit/collateral data to assure no loans coming back. They didn’t do that. They were dumping the loans to brokers and other banks and taking the loans off their balance sheets. Now the bad debts are coming back as defaults rise and buyers refuse to take the crap off their hands and are demanding they take back the bogus paper.
Still……………big bonuses for all the manipulators.
If they were selling paper, they’d be in a federal prison.
Umm… so what happens when the Red Chinese or the Arabs (two groups with no love lost for the US) basically OWN US?! Considering how we can’t keep our own so-called citizens that used to run these banks following the law, it would seem that having them run by people outside the reach of the law would be a real security issue. Not that anyone cares about those things when there’s money to be made, of course! D’oh!
I suppose then we become part of Central/Latin America, economically speaking.
Could someone please tell me why a change from blowing credit out of a firehose to restoring (some semblance of) lending standards is called a “crunch”?
The mortgage securitization business, which supported many, many million dollar a year wall street jobs is at a stand-still. The paper has all been tendered back, and the write downs, as they continue to mark-to-market, will esculate. We are not talking local level anymore. This is a worldwide implosion. The core of the american economy is seriously, seriously damaged. We are not talking joesixpac not buying a McMansion. We are talking top 5 largest investment banks going down and/or sliced and diced beyond recognition. This, of course, will also take down the insurers like MBIA and Ambac.
“We are talking top 5 largest investment banks going down and/or sliced and diced beyond recognition. This, of course, will also take down the insurers like MBIA and Ambac.”
Sounds like lots of financial innovation lies ahead.
“blowing credit out of a firehose”
This is the best description of the last three years of financial “innovation” I have seen yet!
“But the banks had an answer to that. To make their risky loans appear attractive to buyers, banks used complex financial engineering to repackage them so they looked super-safe and paid returns well above what equivalent super-safe investments offered.”
“finacial engineered’ like the garbage men were re-packaged into a Sanitarty Engineers and Wall St Crooks into YOUR Investment Wizards.
Oh well, nothing changes with..Garbage IN and Garbage OUT
“Regionally, existing-home sales in the West are 25.0 percent below a year ago. In the Midwest, existing-home salesare 16.9 percent below November 2006. Existing-home sales in the South are 19.4 percent below a year ago. Existing-home sales in the Northeast are 19.4 percent below November 2006.”
I can’t speak for the rest of the country but Fall ‘07 appeared to be the first significant sign of a bust on the ground in the northeast. Sales fell off a cliff beginning in Oct.
Hey exeter,
The other day I made a comment toward you that was, in retrospect, rather harsh and uncalled for.
I should have focused my comments on the original poster rather than your sarcasm, which I actually got a chuckle out of.
I hope you’ll accept my sincere apology for said over-the-line commentary.
Happy New Year to all.
No sweat here. It’s only the internet. Apology accepted.
I thought it was the “internets”?
He said many offices are not funding loans while awaiting training for Fannie Mae products.”
“‘So far, there’s been no training,’
It’s not easy to write a training manual on “How to process a loan to a home buyer who can actually afford one!”
Translated: I’m not getting any training because I’ll be looking for a new job by 1/31.
LOL
Dave Barry says
The slump in home sales continues into the new year, with a nationwide total of one home sold in January. In many cities, gangs of real estate agents — sometimes wearing “colors” in the form of canary-yellow jackets — roam the streets, surrounding their victims and extracting money from them in forcible “closings.”
Thanks, Eggman! I didn’t know that Dave Barry was back - he’s hilarious.
The AE, requesting his name not be used, painted a bleak picture, saying business is so slow that employees pass the day playing Scrabble and PlayStation on the conference room projector screen.”
Dotcom redux.
Similar day-passing strategies were used in the final days of Enron. Read Brian Cruver’s book, Anatomy of Greed, for details.
They should be job hunting instead.
Job hunting? It’s gonna be tough finding anything that pays close to the 6- or 7-figure incomes these guys have been making.
“You want fries with that?”
Yes, but they could be very expensive fries, like at some French restaurant or something.
Maybe they know enough about wine to sell it with the overpriced fries.
Oh wait… high and mid-range restaurant sales aren’t holding up.
Got popcorn?
Neil
Ahem, must be afraid to walk out the door before year end bonus and severance package are in hand.
“He said FFFC AEs and executives keep asking Merrill why they can’t just originate loans and put them on the balance sheet of Merrill’s FDIC-insured bank. ‘We’re not getting any answers,’ he said.”
Sure I’ll put some money into an FDIC insured CD at Merrill Lynch, but they will have to give me 7% or more for that to happen! That’s on a 1 year.
But I think the subtext of this is that if ML were to fund loans on its books (as opposed to be pass through securitized mortgages), FDIC may find that it doesn’t have the working capital and has to take over.
From what I can tell, they need to raise their capital so the dividends can continue. Simply protecting the share price. This is why I was saying they aren’t in danger of failing. Just look at the balance sheets. Sure, losses are coming in, but they have had a lot of good years, too.
“Sure, losses are coming in, but they have had a lot of good years, too.”
Paid out in bonuses.
Gotta love it that the I-Bankers collect their bonuses and then dilute present shareholders by issueing convertible preferred at Guido rates in order to pay the “dividends” to the common shareholders i.e. the owners.
“…Guido rates…” tee hee.
Miles: “I don’t believe it. I’ve got a trig midterm tomorrow, and I’m being chased by Guido the killer pimp…”
“It was the fifth biggest annual decline on record.”
That is all the more amazing given MSM reports still fresh in memory that U.S. home prices have never fallen on a national basis.
Its an optical allusion. Real estate only goes up!
Got popcorn?
Neil
3D Glasses from the movie theatres create same vision.
I think Buffett has a better plan, just start your own bank or bond insurer with no debt.
“Even savvy Wall Street veteran and billionaire Wilbur Ross could not figure out what was happening.”
Nonetheless, posters on this blog and similar forums openly discussed these looming problems for two years and maybe more before the blowup.
“Saavy” and “Wilbur” rarely belong in the same sentence.
Wilbur can’t even SPELL “saavy”.
“Federal lawmakers didn’t pose much of a threat to the subprime industry in recent years. Members of Congress received at least $645,000 in donations from Ameriquest and large sums from other big subprime lenders, Federal Election Commission records indicate. They debated new oversight of the industry, but took no action.”
The way we fund political campaigns is little more than legalized bribery that virtually ensures actions that are not in the public interest.
As much as I might prefer not to spend public funds to finance political campaigns, I increasingly think this is the only way to change the current corrupt system.
Those that otherwise might want to act in the public interest have to spend most of their time fund raising and those with lesser motives just view the process as a business opportunity.
It’s a bad system that needs to change.
Just 6 Dollars is apparently all it takes per year per person to fund the campaigns all over the US. I didn’t do the math, but that organization, Just 6 Dollars has. And it would not be $ from the public tax funds. Just that part on your tax form that says add $1. for campaigns etc…Instead, $6. And that would wipe that silly grin off the congressman who just came back from a
“Fact Finding Junket” (where there are slave hookers everywhere)
sent by a special interest group.
Another way to stop some of the fund-raising madness: Ban political TV ads.
TV ads must be by far the biggest campaign cost in most races, and they add nothing useful to the political debate. Make people actually read something or listen to a real speech or debate. Political commercials do more harm than good and perpetuate simple-minded politics since they allow time only for soundbites, not for any substantive discussion of the issues.
“But the banks had an answer to that. To make their risky loans appear attractive to buyers, banks used complex financial engineering to repackage them so they looked super-safe and paid returns well above what equivalent super-safe investments offered.”
A Madison Avenue approach to investment banking??
The house prices in southern California are still outrageously high, sellers are unwilling to drop their asking price. They’re clinging to their “paper” house value . Buyers need to lowball house offers and sent a message to sellers that the market is going down. In CA we have not yet hit bottom in RE.
I agree with you. Silence doesn’t seem to be terribly effective in getting the message across.
From the LATimes…housing bust causing falling tax revenues and cuts across the nation.
Libraries, schools, social services are the first cuts, but as this downturn lasts and turns deeper, they may start to ask where’s the money for all those public pensions we’re suppposed to fund? 2008 is the start of the boomer retirement cycle-at age 62. Those who are counting on a public pension may want to keep a close eye on this.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-budget31dec31,0,1654836.story?coll=la-home-nation
Libraries, schools, social services… always the same. The top layers of the local and state governments never take a hit. Hmmm, kinda like the way it’s done in corporations.
Just like at the Federal level its the Washington Monument and Yellowstone Park that are the first thing that gets shut down when there is a budget crises. Its never the Pentagon office that runs executive airplanes flights or the research grant that pays for the $5 million “Study to determine why teenagers have sex”.
Federal “budget crises”/shut-downs are done by Appropriations bill, so what is affected depends on which Appropriations bill has passed–for example, Defense Appropriations may have passed but the Interior Dept (including the Natl Park Service which runs the parks and monuments) Appropriations bill may not have passed yet. At least, that’s what happened under the big Clinton Admin shut-down. Programs getting the ax is another thing entirely.
Amen Bill….errrrrrr
Public pensions, unfortunately, will be seriously downsized and/or just plain old reneged on. Municipalities everywhere have over promised and underfund pensions. The choice will be maintain minimal services or add money to pension funds. I suspect when the time comes, the pensioners will go by the wayside.
calif and NYS pension systems are well funded and have never been raided. Conn and NJ, OTOH.
“But the banks had an answer to that. To make their risky loans appear attractive to buyers, banks used complex financial engineering to repackage them so they looked super-safe and paid returns well above what equivalent super-safe investments offered.”
Or, instead of lipstick on a pig, how ’bout sugar-frosted cow pies…
Real Estate Funds Crash and Burn
http://www.thestreet.com/s/new-real-estate-funds-crash-and-burn/funds/mutualfundmonday/10396405.html?
“In short, investors need to take responsibility for their money and stop chasing returns”…
Now there is a novel idea….
Vanguard REIT down 17% for the year too. I jumped out of that and paid a fee after I started reading this blog.
A colleague sold me 3 ounces of gold a month ago and the rest of his gold to CNI. In place, he bought Vanguard’s REIT fund. Not a good move. However he did buy his Long Island home in 1998 for $400,000. He told me it’s worth a whole lot more but I ignored the dollar figure, knowing everything in real estate is way overvalued.
WARWICK, Bermuda, Dec 31 (Reuters) - The U.S. government has cleared a deal that will give Dubai’s state-owned stock exchange a stake in Nasdaq (NDAQ.O: Quote, Profile, Research), the U.S. stock exchange said on Monday.
Nasdaq, which first made the announcement on Friday and then withdrew the notice saying it had been issued in error, said the federal approval allows it and Borse Dubai Ltd to proceed with a deal reached earlier this year.
WAKE UP AMERICA…… you are about to be the emerginmarket petro bitch, i just puked in my mouth.
For those in Hampton Roads / Southeastern Virginia (and Ben):
Our local paper finally ran a real article. I guess they can’t hide it anymore, since home sales are dead. Perhaps the realtors are cancelling their advertisements:
http://hamptonroads.com/2007/12/number-unsold-homes-region-highest-decade
“Number of unsold homes in region at highest this decade”
“Tina Merritt, a Realtor with Long & Foster in Virginia Beach, attributes much of what’s going on in the local market to a correction, specifically in the form of a “recovery” of the region’s housing inventory, which shrank to very low levels a few years ago.”
Here’s the “recovery” in inventory Tina is referring to: 2003 - 3480; 2007 - 23,500.
If the NAR declares that existing home sales were up.4% what is there to crow about? That’s essentially unmeasureable and “down in the grass”.
Dear God they must be desperate for any goods news to spew out to anyone who’ll listen.
Further Reduction In Prices May Be Required
“May”??
Try “will”.
“An account executive there told us recently about conditions at Merrill’s First Franklin Financial Corp. He said many offices are not funding loans while awaiting training for Fannie Mae products.”
Can anyone who understands the need for Fannie Mae product training please shed light on this statement?