January 2, 2008

We Went Too High Too Fast

The Sun Herald reports from Mississippi. “According to data from the MLS, which keeps track of homes for sale, home prices have risen more than 16 percent, from an August 2005 average $148,885 to $178,000 in August 2007. Some of that increase, said local Realtor Cheryl High, was because of labor and supply shortages. But some of it was wishful thinking.”

“‘We hit a price range where it was not uncommon for a seller to add $30,000 to $40,000. We were asking premium prices,’ she said. ‘We went too high too fast.’”

“Since then she’s seen builders knocking as much as $50,000 off the price of a home and has received an offer of $90,000 less than the asking price for one of her listings.”

“MLS data reported in April 2007, there were 814 homes on the market and only 293 sold. August 2007 had 846 homes on the market and 315 sold, in contrast with December 2005, with 475 houses for sale and 401 sold.”

“After Hurricane Katrina, there was a sharp increase in home sales, mostly to investors who planned to resell them, said Realtor Arlene Wall, but that ended quickly.”

“Joe McVey has had a higher-priced home on the market for about two years, a reflection, he said, of the national trend. Katrina drove away families with no local roots, but higher incomes. The people who remained can’t afford his listings.”

“‘The people who moved took their money with them,’ he said.”

“And though he thinks some buyers are perhaps subconsciously holding out for prices to dip lower, he thinks the dam will break once houses start selling again. He’s looking for that break as early as January, but probably in the later spring.”

“‘I think it’s going to be like a volcano going off,’ he said. ‘Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.’”

From City Business in Louisiana. “A $25-million residential redevelopment of the historic Sara Mayo Hospital in the Irish Channel has been put on hold indefinitely. ‘Based on the existing economic conditions and the status of the current mortgage market we feel it is premature to start construction at this time,’ said Sue Shelton, executive VP of Today Realty Advisors Inc., which bought the hospital in the spring of 2006.”

“The Dallas real estate company, which initially forecast the costly conversion would be complete in March 2008, is reviewing its plan to convert the 135,000-square-foot abandoned property into 78 condominiums ‘to be sure it is the most effective use of the (site),’ Shelton said.”

“The stalled development comes as a blow to neighborhood residents who have been waiting eagerly for progress at the vacant hospital site with overgrown shrubs and grass.”

“‘It looks like a place where anything could happen, and not necessarily good things,’ said Richard Hebert, who in 2001 bought a home near the hospital.”

“Land values in the Irish Channel rose when the city demolished the St. Thomas public housing development in 2000 to make way for River Garden. Following the demolition of St. Thomas, housing in the area was selling at unprecedented prices in the range of $350 to $500 a square foot, said Realtor Isabel Reynolds.”

“Values surged again following Hurricane Katrina when the city announced plans to redevelop 6 miles of land along the Mississippi River between Jackson Avenue and the Industrial Canal into a tourist-friendly attraction that would include parks, shops, cafes and cultural centers, Reynolds said.”

“‘There is a lot of (housing) supply out there and there are a lot of new choices coming on the market,’ said Lower Garden District builder Robert, who recently completed an 11-unit luxury condo building in the Lower Garden District and is in pre-construction phases for the three-story building at 625 Celeste St. as well a a $17-million, eight-story luxury condominium and a larger, mixed-use building at 1667 Tchoupitoulas St.”

“Keeping prices low to appeal to a wider market of buyers will be important for developers in transitioning areas such as the Irish Channel, he said.”

“‘The supply issue is coming down to what you are willing to sell at,’ said Armbruster.”

The Times Picayune from Louisiana. “The supply of houses and condominiums for sale right now in greater New Orleans is more than double what it was at the close of 2004 and 2005, a trend that brokers say is shaped as much by the national real estate slump as it is by the lapse in consumer confidence that followed Hurricane Katrina.”

“Buyers are out there, but brokers say they can afford to be choosy because of the profusion of homes on the market. Sellers, especially those with high-end real estate, have had to compromise on price after watching their homes idle without an offer for a few months.”

“Brokers say it is the affluent homeowners who have experienced the most disappointment about what their homes will fetch in a turgid market.”

“Larry Saunders put his home in Metairie up for sale this year for $755,000, slightly less than what he believes it was worth before the storm. Katrina damaged the outside of the house and pushed water into the back two rooms, but Saunders finished the repairs before he went hunting for a buyer.”

“The home languished on the market for six months until Saunders found a new real estate agent who encouraged him to dial back his asking price. He sold the house within 30 days — for $551,000.”

“Saunders moved his family to Nashville after the storm, and he said he accepted an offer far below his original price because it was costing him to maintain the house and swimming pool in Metairie even as he paid a mortgage on the new house in Tennessee.”

“‘It was unfortunate to have to accept such a dramatic reduction in value, but that’s just the reality,’ Saunders said. ‘For homes at the high end of the price range, values have fallen significantly over the last two years because of the lack of new buyers entering the market and the excess supply.’”

“Michael Riley also had to stomach a lower selling price for his home in Old Metairie after he could not find a buyer for six months. A lot of potential buyers came through his house on Cedar Drive, but he found that no one would make an offer unless they believed they had found a real bargain.”

“‘There are a lot of houses that have been up for sale for a long time,’ Riley said. ‘If you want to move your house, you have to make it very price-attractive. I know a lot of people are reluctant to reduce the price of their house because they keep thinking in terms of what it was worth before Katrina.’”

The Record Chronicle from Texas. “Mike Ferguson flipped through a booklet of foreclosed homes. As he patiently waited for a foreclosure auction to begin, Ferguson reviewed the dozens of homes that he had highlighted, scribbled next to or marked.”

“By 10 a.m., Denton County’s foreclosure auction started, and within an hour, nearly all of the properties listed in the book had been sold — most back to the bank. Ferguson’s business was the only buyer that was not a bank to place a winning bid on a property.”

“The number of foreclosed homes posted for the New Year’s Day sale at the Denton County Courthouse reflected a 17 percent increase over January 2006 and was the highest January increase in a 10-county region. The question, foreclosure service officials say, is whether the foreclosure numbers posted for January could have been higher.”

“Denton County posted a record 450 residential foreclosures in November. In December, 447 foreclosure notices were filed. In a report released Dec. 13, a total of 392 residential foreclosures were posted for the January auction.”

“Lenders in a 10-county region posted 3,672 area homes for foreclosure in January, according to the Foreclosure Listing Service report — the biggest total yet for January foreclosure auctions in the Dallas-Fort Worth region and 30 percent more than for the same month in 2006.”

“Almost 43,000 homes in the region were posted for foreclosure in 2007 — a record, up 10 percent from 2006.” “The annual numbers for 2007 show several hotspots in the county hit harder than others, including Krum and Prosper and some developments along U.S. Highway 380.”

The Journal Record from Oklahoma. “Tulsa-area home sales fell 11.2 percent in November, the Greater Tulsa Association of Realtors reported Monday.”

“Oklahoma State University economist Suzette Barta’s report observed strength in Oklahoma’s real estate loan market…although she recorded declining activity. These factors support Barta’s contention that while the national housing market is enduring a serious slump, Oklahoma’s housing market could better be described as sluggish.”

“While housing starts have declined 6.1 percent in Oklahoma, she said, that pales against the 24.5-percent drop seen nationwide. She projected statewide construction employment would rise 0.6 percent next year, fueled by demand in Oklahoma City.”

“‘Actual home prices are not expected to fall,’ she said, ‘and neither is construction employment.’”

“Tulsa apartment complex sales plunged 40.4 percent in 2007 to $191 million, according to a report by broker Darla Knight.”

“Analysts through 2007 had projected the start of several construction projects, although some in the multifamily sector have suggested the credit crunch could curtail some expansion plans. While long-term financing remains available, Knight said some deals had faced a temporary squeeze from sub-prime lending problems.”

“While most economic studies point to slowing job growth in the Tulsa area this year, Knight said that follows a similar pattern seen in 2007.”

“‘While we’re modest, we’re still far above the rest of the nation,’ Knight said. ‘And then we had Forbes putting us in the top 10 places to live. That is encouraging.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2008-01-02 10:32:44

‘We hit a price range where it was not uncommon for a seller to add $30,000 to $40,000. We were asking premium prices,’ she said.’

‘ Following the demolition of St. Thomas, housing in the area was selling at unprecedented prices in the range of $350 to $500 a square foot, said Realtor Isabel Reynolds. Values surged again following Hurricane Katrina when the city announced plans to redevelop 6 miles of land’

And they are overbuilt in all these places. No national bubble?

BTW, some may remember I found a story on possible failed condo-conversion projects in Tulsa, which may expalin the big drop-off in apartment sales.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-01-02 10:54:40

Condo conversions in TUL?

I lived at the Hickory Creek apartment complex near 41st and Garnett by the B.A. way back in 1989. It was in a nest of several two story wooden frame apartment complexes - if those things went condo - or someone thought about taking them condo - they should be “dealt with most harshly”. Those structures were creaky way back then - paper then walls - the units were treated very roughly, etc. TUL was littered with similar apt. complexes back then - no way any should have gone condo.

The only TUL conversion that seemed to make any sense was the two towers of Center Plaza by the civic center. But after living in TUL I could not for the life of me figure out why any Okie would ever want a high rise studio - even for $30k back in ‘99.

Comment by polly
2008-01-02 11:00:37

You could have bought a 400 square foot studio co-op in downtown Brooklyn adjacent to Brooklyn Heights and a 25 mintue commute to downtown Manhattan for about $32-35K in a high rise complex in ‘96.

Makes an interesting comparison.

 
 
Comment by Suzanne, I researched this!
2008-01-02 10:54:58

“Brokers say it is the affluent homeowners who have experienced the most disappointment”

Did they mean “affluent” homeowners, or delusional homedebtors, cash-strapped morons who thought their houses made them “affluent”

 
Comment by Chip
2008-01-02 11:47:42

Nice to see these reports on Mississippi and Louisiana. Thanks, Ben, for giving us evidence that the bubble was everywhere.

Comment by NoVa Sideliner
2008-01-02 12:32:10

Yes, definite thanks. This also brings to light the fallacy that all high-ground real estate in New Orleans would be like gold after Katrina. And if there’s any city that’s almost “out of land”, it’s gotta be there, with the only high ground for 25 miles being that narrow strip along the river.

 
 
 
Comment by jjinla
2008-01-02 10:46:49

Oil just passed the $100 mark.

RIP S & P….

Comment by polly
2008-01-02 10:55:56

Was the manufacturing report so bad as to justify this level of sell off in the market? I’m just wondering if it is “people still on vacation volatility” or some other kind of doom and gloom that is too nebulous to make it into a newspaper article.

Comment by Betamax
2008-01-02 11:01:09

The mfg report is just the icing on a toxic cake, confirming expectations of a recession.

Comment by qt
2008-01-02 11:14:09

Seriously, do we manufacture anything in the US anymore? OK, beside missiles, tanks, guns, airplanes, etc. This should be great news as maybe people will stop buying useless junks! Somehow, I doubt it though.

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Comment by Skip
2008-01-02 13:43:59

I seem to recall Starbucks coffee makers as now being classified as working in the manufacturing industry.

 
 
 
Comment by Sobay
2008-01-02 11:53:37

-Nothing will prevent this market from selling off.

Comment by Roidy
2008-01-02 13:33:54

I just watched cramer on video. He is blaming the Fed for causing the stockmarket to tank which has the additional benefit of shifting focus away from himself as a poor investment analyst.
Cramer is an idiot. Cramer is shame. Cramer is shameful.
Roidy

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Comment by Not_In_Montana
2008-01-02 14:27:00

What?? blaming the Fed - they’re signaling another rate cut, right? Isn’t that what he wants?

 
Comment by polly
2008-01-02 14:35:42

He knows nothing? (boy it is hard to make a sly reference to his classic outburst on the internet)

Maybe some of his old buddies are on the ML lay off list?

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Betamax
2008-01-02 10:55:47

“‘I think it’s going to be like a volcano going off,’ he said. ‘Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.’”

Yah, maybe. But keep hangin’ in there till you lose more money. That’s its own kind of justice.

 
Comment by Tim
2008-01-02 10:56:48

“And though he thinks some buyers are perhaps subconsciously holding out for prices to dip lower, he thinks the dam will break once houses start selling again. He’s looking for that break as early as January, but probably in the later spring.”

“‘I think it’s going to be like a volcano going off,’ he said. ‘Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.’”

His girlfriend left him after housing peaked, and he couldnt make any more sales. These dreams become more prevalent every week. There is something subconcious going on here but its not at the buyer level.

Comment by Natalie
2008-01-02 12:17:53

Bursting damns and exploading volcanoes, oh my! What kind of smut is Ben peddling. I thought this was a real estate site.

Comment by michael
2008-01-02 12:26:07

this site is financial porn.

: )

 
 
Comment by az_lender
2008-01-02 12:26:35

Just for fun, I examined the rental listings in the same newspaper. Looks like 3BR houses $1000-$1200, 2BR apts around $600-$700/mo. Good luck selling a “higher-priced home” — meaning above median, i.e., above $178K, in an environment like that.

 
Comment by Former FB
2008-01-02 14:41:37

Seem like J6P sometimes knows a bit about demand, and occasionally he’s got a buddy that knows something about supply, but they never really get together and draw any conclusions from their combined knowledge. They just assume that the side they don’t know anything about is steady, or changing in their favor.

 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2008-01-02 10:56:54

Another one bites the dust

National City Cutting Dividend, Jobs
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080102/national_city_dividend.html

Comment by scdave
2008-01-02 11:08:47

Heard some talking head this morning say National City is a screaming buy right now….

Comment by Mo Money
2008-01-02 11:33:49

I think I’d be screaming too if I bought a few days ago.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2008-01-02 11:33:49

This still begs the question……who is going to buy the $750,000 2 family house here in queens that has more then doubled in the last 7 years?

Even at $350,000 getting steady tenants at $1500 a month for each apartment is not easy… $3000 mo. times 120 = $360K

 
 
Comment by Betamax
2008-01-02 10:58:40

“‘And then we had Forbes putting us in the top 10 places to live. That is encouraging.’”

Oh, everyone wants to live in Tulsa. I’m sure there’s plane-loads of rich immigrants and retiring boomers on their way as we speak….

Comment by spike66
2008-01-02 12:19:18

Naw, they’re headed for North Dakota.

Comment by Curt
2008-01-02 14:24:26

Naw, they’re headed for North Dakota.

Nope. Fond du lac!

 
 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2008-01-02 11:06:58

Lets just keep trying to get disabled people into houses in the name of providing “Affordable Housing”.

Building a better home buyer
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_7861522#recent_comm
(should be titled trolling the bottom for new marks)

Comment by Vermontergal
2008-01-02 11:24:57

Yep! It’s a beautiful concept: I can’t work because I’m physically disabled but by all means, let’s make sure I’m an owner of a building (or part of one) that I can’t fix up and probably can’t afford to pay someone else to do. Renting=good if you have those kinds of disabilities.

The only good part of that program is that people for whom it might actually be appropriate to buy a house are being encouraged to wait and save money. Still knife catchers but I’m willing to bet if they follow the plan that they’ll find affordable housing in a few years.

Comment by Former FB
2008-01-02 14:52:35

Every bad decision made by every party in this entire debacle makes perfect sense if housing really “always goes up”. Even the ignorant decisions of desperate people. Especially the ignorant decisions of desperate people.

It’s the people who knew it was a pyramid scheme all along and tried to take advantage of it anyway that I find the most disturbing.

 
 
 
Comment by sohonyc
2008-01-02 11:08:02

Anyone watching Gold and Silver today? The market is tanking and the precious metals are doing beautifully.

We may be looking at the trend for ‘08.

Comment by Not_In_Montana
2008-01-02 12:26:40

I’m new to this. Kitco says gold -1.00, but did it just now switch to a different spot market?

 
 
Comment by Neil
2008-01-02 11:11:31

“‘The people who moved took their money with them,’ he said.”

I feel for the areas hit by Katrina. The government reconstruction has been a buracratic money pit and not much more…

But every bubble area needs to understand this. People move to where the jobs support their lifestyle. I know some very well to do people considering relocating as its easy to support a grand lifestyle in the less bubbly areas.

I’m just waiting for the ‘pound of flesh’ the soverign funds will demand for their billions. How many jobs will transfer to Singapore, Dubai, AbuDhabi, or Doha as part of their bailouts? What will it be, 500 Wall street jobs per Billion? 1,000? Let’s face it, when you need $5 to $30 billion to bail our your company, its the other side of the table that sets the terms. It would not shock me to find 15,000 circa 2007 Wall street jobs in Dubai by 2009.

Got popcorn?
Neil

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-01-02 11:41:17

“The government reconstruction has been a buracratic money pit and not much more…”

Perhaps those that cling to hope of a gov’t rescue would be wise to look at that Gulf coast example?

Comment by Anonymous Coward
2008-01-02 13:23:57

I find the prospect of a badly run bailout even more sickening than the prospect of a well run bailout.

 
 
 
Comment by Nick Barkely
2008-01-02 11:12:10

The recent Oklahoma intrerest is due to the TMC recent musical showing of Oklahoma. The world wants to come live next to Shirley Partridge driving a surrey with the fringe on top. Simpler, stressfree times.

Oklahoma; OK !

Comment by sdnewbie
2008-01-02 14:32:18

The Movie “Oklahoma” was actually filmed in SE Arizona.

 
 
Comment by Sobay
2008-01-02 11:40:42

‘, he thinks the dam will break once houses start selling again. He’s looking for that break as early as January, but probably in the later spring.”

“‘I think it’s going to be like a volcano going off,’ he said. ‘Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.’”

That’s it Joe, keep up with the happy thoughts for all the ‘Sixpacks.’

Comment by az_lender
2008-01-02 12:31:34

illiterate idiot. He doesn’t even watch TV news, only sitcoms or “Flip That House”

Comment by aimeejd
2008-01-02 13:40:13

I actually like the updated episodes of “Flip That House”–the almost always show that the “flipper” either had to sell for way below their asking price, or couldn’t sell it at all. The show I hate is “My House is Worth What,” where fools are assured by some realtwhore that their home’s “value” has increased by 250% in three years because they installed granite countertops in the kitchen–and then the host comes on to crow about how much the owners have “made.”

 
Comment by ghostwriter
2008-01-02 13:45:18

Evidently he hasn’t noticed the new house shows coming up. “Buy Me” helping sellers get out from under their bad buying decisions and try to find buyers for their house. Or how about “Sleep on it” where the buyer spends the night in a house he’s thinking about buying. They wouldn’t have wasted money putting these shows on if there was any chance the market was turning around by spring. I’m sure there’ll be many more.
“How to skip out on your obligations”
“Where to mail the keys”
“How to eat on $1 a day for a family of 4″
“How to convince relatives you need to move in with them”
“Creative ways to get to work without a car”
Come on everyone, we can think of lots of show titles and subjects just waiting to make a debut.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2008-01-02 12:03:41

FED Cuts rates…

 
Comment by EmperorNorton_II
2008-01-02 12:05:23

“And though he thinks some buyers are perhaps subconsciously holding out for prices to dip lower, he thinks the dam will break once houses start selling again. He’s looking for that break as early as January, but probably in the later spring.”

“‘I think it’s going to be like a volcano going off,’ he said. ‘Maybe that’s wishful thinking on my part.’”

Vesuvius?

S.P.Q.A.

 
Comment by flatffplan
2008-01-02 12:11:13

OT:
anyone buying any stocks
I know we’re all going to die from the housing bust, but since I don’t plan to die soon I figured I’d ask
I’ll start VZ,SJT

 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-01-02 12:15:17

“After Hurricane Katrina, there was a sharp increase in home sales, mostly to investors who planned to resell them, said Realtor Arlene Wall, but that ended quickly

My wish for the New Year is that these investors choke on all this stuff and wind up as the Emperor with no clothes, as their money is wiffed away in the wind and they all wind up in the bellyup court. Words can not describe the loathing I have for this kind of investor mentality - prey on the poor and unfortunate.

 
Comment by rms
2008-01-02 12:48:08

We received a late card today. Among the cheer, “…and our son bought a house this summer…” Geez, no shortage of knife catchers out there. Amazing!

 
Comment by sohonyc
2008-01-02 13:15:46

Gold hits 28-year High!
http://tinyurl.com/35m69g

Congrats to goldbugs!

(Of course, we on this board know that this isn’t computed in inflation-adjusted dollars. Gold still has a long, long way to go before it hits its high)

Comment by wmbz
2008-01-02 13:43:27

(Of course, we on this board know that this isn’t computed in inflation-adjusted dollars. Gold still has a long, long way to go before it hits its high) You are correct as you know….

It will take nearly $2,130 of today’s flimsy U.S. dollars to equal the dollar of 1980.

Comment by Curt
2008-01-02 14:43:34

It will take nearly $2,130 of today’s flimsy U.S. dollars to equal the dollar of 1980.

Wow. I made the equivalent of over eighty million dollars in 1980 and I couldn’t afford to buy a house in San Diego back then!

 
 
 
Comment by EmperorNorton_II
2008-01-02 13:44:48

“The supply of houses and condominiums for sale right now in greater New Orleans is more than double what it was at the close of 2004 and 2005, a trend that brokers say is shaped as much by the national real estate slump as it is by the lapse in consumer confidence that followed Hurricane Katrina.”

A supply nightmare named lack of desire…

 
Comment by SLC Resistance
2008-01-02 13:49:24

“Too high too fast…”

Forgive the clumsy analogy, but it reminds me of how we identify cancerous cells in the human body. Unusually rapid cell reproduction/growth is often malignant/pathological. Metastasis is destructive spread that exacerbates the problem by taking it to other parts of the body.

Historically, real estate values rise at a rate of roughly 4-5% (give or take a point, maybe I’m way off)…but my point is that it’s not at a rate of 12-22% or 100-200%. Because bubble prices were influenced and set by fraudulent, artificial numbers and have proven nothing short of destructive, bubble prices should be isolated and totally discredited the way a surgeon would completely cut out and remove a tumor. Start your price estimates at the most recent standard before the charts started steepening, and add your 4-5% per year from there. Isolate the malignant numbers and scrap them. They’re not real and they simply do not count. Period.

I realize how insensitive my comparison might seem. I know economic bubbles can’t hold a candle to the pain of cancer, so if I’ve offended anyone I sincerely apologize. At any rate, I feel a healthy market is a stable and gradual one.

Comment by watcher
2008-01-02 14:47:48

Too high, too fast = icarus.

 
 
Comment by Hondje
2008-01-02 14:44:59

Here’s a couple of links to recent articles carried by the Austin Business Journal, the Dallas Business Journal and the Phoenix Business Journal.
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/othercities/phoenix/stories/2007/12/31/daily3.html?b=1199134546^1570174
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/stories/2007/12/31/daily8.html?f=et51&ana=e_du
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/othercities/dallas/stories/2007/09/24/focus1.html

Housing starts (Y/Y % decrease)
Austin: -20%
DFW: -25%
Nationwide: -37%

Sales (Y/Y % decrease):
Austin: -9.1% (and a 14% Y/Y decrease in Q4)
Phoenix: -24%

And then this blurb from the Dallas Biz Journal:

TED WILSON: I don’t think we need to belabor what’s happening in the national market. It’s off about 37% from its peak. The good news for Dallas-Fort Worth is that starts are only off by 24%. So comparatively speaking, we’re weathering the storm better than the rest of the country. What we have heard from the builders is that, certainly, we have lost the subprime sector of the market, so that has been a challenge. The good news is that base demand is still pretty stable. We’ve seen our closing rate drop from about 46,000 to 43,000, so it’s off about 7%.

 
Comment by Matt_in_TX
2008-01-02 18:10:53

Just an example of a fairly large mostly local credit union’s financial reporting by its president, focused all on the “sub-prime mortgage crisis”:
http://www.becu.org/default.asp?pid=whatsnewdetail&ID=972&source=enewsreferral

My background info: This is the Boeing Employees Credit Union, whose affiliate group works for Boeing, mostly in the Seattle area. The members jobs are mostly good paying technical and manufacturing jobs. They have seen huge swings in local employment in the past, since Boeing will lay off tens of thousands as needed. Hopefully, weak dollar will help there, though airlines may start to hurt in any recession. Didn’t make home loans for decades after vicious downturn of the early 1970s. Now make home equity loans up to 100%.

Paraphrased Summary: All about the “sub-prime mortgage crisis.” The problems are in sub-prime. We don’t make sub-prime loans, or invest in securities tied to sub-prime so financial health is OK. Some members might be in individual problems, and the credit union has several refinancing programs and even some seminars to help them.

No mention of the recent halting of the Seattle housing market’s rocketing price growth. No suggestion that the problems might extend beyond the sub-prime sector. 90% of CU assets loaned out to members. No mention of how much of that is in home equity loans (85% and up to 100% with marginally higher interest rates are offered). No public concern for any potential effect of future home price depreciation on their home equity portfolio.

 
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