February 15, 2008

Buyers Aren’t Going To Pay Last Year’s Price

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “The wealth-sapping downturn in home prices continued during the fourth quarter of 2007, the Florida Association of Realtors said Thursday. And county clerks in Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties report foreclosure filings tripled from January 2006 to January 2007. In one recent short sale, agent Bob Graeve brokered a deal for a West Palm Beach condo for $90,000. The seller owed the bank $180,000.”

“And in another deal in Jupiter, the seller paid $430,000 in 2005 - and is under contract to sell for only $309,000. ‘Buyers will buy if they’re getting a deal,’ Graeve said. ‘Buyers aren’t going to pay last year’s price.’”

“Former Lansing resident Brian Kramer moved to Oregon for a job opportunity three years ago. But his house on Aurelius Road is still for sale. Kramer has dropped the price several times but hasn’t found a taker. The audio-video technician said he might resort to selling it for less than he owes.”

“Kramer originally listed it for $129,000. After slashing the price several times, he plans to relist the house for $110,000 and possibly work out a short sale. ‘I just want to get rid of it at this point,’ he said. ‘It’s been such a hassle. I can’t do anything with the house. I just want to offload it, basically, and I want to be able to not owe thousands and thousands of dollars on it.’”

“‘You just can’t sell it because you can’t compete with the foreclosure market and the foreclosure market has hit every price range,’ said James Pyle, owner of Lana Wagner & Co. Real Estate in East Lansing. ‘You have inexpensive homes to homes that are billion-dollar homes that have been foreclosed on.’”

“Pyle said he has seen a house originally sell for $75,000 and then be listed for less than $10,000 after foreclosure.”

“Nearly 18-percent of homes sold in Nevada last year were foreclosures. That’s said to be four times more than the number of bank owned homes sold in 2006. Some local REMAX brokers have bought a bus and they’ll take you on a tour to see foreclosed homes in the area.”

“We checked out one home that was in foreclosure and has dramatically dropped in price. It sold for $700,000 roughly two years ago. Now a sale is pending for $425,000.”

“It costs a lot less to buy a condominium today in Kitsap County than a year ago, according to new real-estate tracking figures. The January median closing price of $299,900 was down $135,000 from a year ago. The average closing price fell nearly $87,000, to $346,980, according to the Northwest MLS.”

“One of the largest condo complexes in Kitsap advertised one unit marked down from $545,000 to $449,000. Even with the lure of new bargains and plenty of choice, the Kitsap condo market has slowed. Only five condo sales closed last month in Kitsap, down from 33 in January 2007.”

“Lee Avery, branch manager for the Bremerton John L. Scott office in Bremerton, is optimistic about tomorrow. ‘From here, it’s only going to go up,’ Avery said.”

“It wasn’t long ago that home buyers felt obligated to pounce on the first good deal that came along. Home sales were sizzling and another bidder was certain to make an offer. Today, house ‘for sale’ signs seem to be sprouting like dandelions across the Salem area.”

“‘You could throw a rock and hit three,’ said Bob Riggi, a real-estate broker with Windermere/ Pacific West Properties Inc.”

“Home sales have dropped, builders are seeking fewer construction permits, and homeowners are having to wait longer to sell their properties. Foreclosures also have surged.”

“But builders and other players say the Alaska housing market has remained fairly isolated from the Lower 48 housing depression. Dan Fauske, who heads the Alaska Housing Finance Corp., a state lending agency, and others said it’s not surprising the downturn could nail some builders after a string of bullish building seasons.”

“‘Last year, people were pretty much in denial that nongrowth was happening,’ said Chuck Spinelli, owner of one of the area’s largest home builders. ‘Everybody thought that by spring and summer of last year, this little hiccup bubble would be over and we’d be on the fast track again. By fall, everybody realized it didn’t happen and there were some harsh realities showing through.’”

“The whole local housing industry has tightened up for leaner times, he said. ‘Nobody is out there lending money on speculative building the way they were a year and a half ago,’ he said.”

“Houston-home builders builders ended 2007 on a sour note, posting big drops in starts and sales as the housing market continued to weaken. Even with production cuts, there were 21,570 single-family homes under construction or completed and vacant at the end of last year.”

“To get rid of some of that inventory, builders have been aggressively cutting prices. This week Beazer Homes launched a promotion giving $45,000 discounts on homes priced between $220,000 and $350,000 and $25,000 off lower-priced properties.”

“The builder is also slashing prices on new-home orders — or so-called ‘dirt sales.’ ‘We need to generate some excitement,’ said Kurt Watzek, Houston division president for Beazer Homes. ‘That’s the whole point of what we’re doing today — to get some new sticks in the air and get people excited about coming into communities.’”

“Home sales in Omaha fell nearly 10 percent in the fourth quarter of 2007 compared to the fourth quarter of 2006. Omaha experienced strong home sales from 2002 to 2006, said Mike Riedmann, president for residential sales at NP Dodge Real Estate. In June 2006, sales started to drop and inventory started to build, he said.”

“‘It seems both years the market just ran out of steam. Inventory built, and people waited,’ said Riedmann.”

“Mark Hart, president of the Omaha Area Board of Realtors, said the board along with the Metro Omaha Builders Association and several large real estate companies will launch a $250,000 campaign Monday to educate people on why it’s a great time to buy.”

“‘In the next six months to a year, people are going to be saying, ‘Why didn’t I buy in the first quarter of 2008?’ Hart said.”

“Asked whether the property industry was in crisis, Lugton’s Real Estate general manager Kevin Laurence said the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand figures for February and March would give a better indication of the state of the market.”

“A glut of houses for sale and a cooling in property prices have tipped the Hamilton housing market firmly in favour of buyers. There are more houses for sale than almost any other time in the past decade, with some sellers struggling to get any nibbles, and open homes attracting no one.”

“Lodge Real Estate Hamilton East branch manager Warwick Johnson estimated there were more than 1600 houses for sale in Hamilton, up 30 per cent on a year ago. ‘When the market was ticking along very well we would be listing and selling houses on the same day with competing offers and that’s not happening now,’ he said.”

“When the toxic substance of choice is greed, who is to blame: the pushers or the addicts? This is today’s question as Mike Cox, the attorney general, fills auditoriums from Cobo Center to Saginaw, bringing government to the people at his foreclosure forums.”

“At a mortgage broker’s spiffed-up office on Livernois, where the ceramic tile floors were laid just as the bubble was bursting, even the brokers are signing up for civic group duty. Bill Haley, at Prime Financial Plus, sees houses crumbling, owners crying, and a foreclosure aftermath of looting and collapse.”

“The lenders and the borrowers and the regulators are all in meetings. They’re in recovery, like 12-step group members, but dealing with the consequences of too many loans gone bad.”

“In the housing binge, everybody stuffed themselves. The getting was good, and only a few suckers seemed to be getting hurt. The housing churn pushed up the state tax collections, enriched investors and bankers, and enabled Michigan homeowners to go granite in their kitchens.”

“When the toxic substance is greed, the addicts hit bottom first, and later even some of the pushers get hurt.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2008-02-15 14:54:08

We’ve got them on the run now. My thanks to those who support this blog. Please check back this weekend for news, your market observations and topics.

Comment by spike66
2008-02-15 16:15:26

“We’ve got them on the run now.”

A long,cold, crummy day, but that made me laugh out loud.

 
Comment by mathguy
2008-02-15 16:57:04

Ben ,

What would you recommend in terms of foreclosure watch. San Diego inventory is at about 13 months right now, and almost half are foreclosures. Is there some place that is tracking this on a month to month basis where we can check the graph of the numbers, and watch for the rate of change to start decreasing to get ready for the bottom?

I’ve got my little pile of coins growing in the corner so that I can start off the path of ownership with my bride to be, when this thing bottoms out (2009, 2010?).

Comment by Dan (from SoFla)
2008-02-15 17:45:27

My realtor friend checked a few particular buildings in 33160, as he sold his pad a few months ago and is looking to rent at the moment.

The newer condo construction is getting up to the 7-year inventory levels, sometimes higher, with 25%-40% of all units listed. That’s the epicenter of the speculative boom. The asking prices (beachfront or the Intracoastal Bay) can still range from $400 to $700 per ft sq.

The older, lower end/middle class, buildings have lower inventory levels but only because they had offered less opportunity for the investors to make a buck. But, even with a lower inventory and the asking prices in the low-mid $200’s, almost nothing is moving, i.e., the “pending sales” for older buildings are often at zero.

 
 
Comment by mikey
2008-02-15 18:33:22

Hums the theme song “Rawhide” and hopes the Herd of GF and Fb’s don’t spook and STAMPEDE and step on me :)

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rawhide!

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Though the streams are swollen

Keep them doggies rollin’

Rawhide

Rain and wind and weather

Hellbent for leather

Wishin’ my gal was by my side

All the things I’m missin’

Good vittals, love and kissin’

Are waiting at the end of my ride

CHORUS

Move ‘em on, head ‘em up

Head ‘em up, move ‘em on

Move ‘em on, head ‘em up

Rawhide

Count ‘em out, ride ‘em in

Ride ‘em in, count ‘em out

Count ‘em out, ride ‘em in

Rawhide

Keep movin’, movin’, movin’

Though they’re disapprovin’

Keep them doggies movin’

Rawhide

Don’t try to understand ‘em

Just rope ‘em, pull and brand ‘em

Soon we’ll be living high and wide

My hearts calculatin’

My true love will be waitin’

Be waitin’ at the end of my ride

Hyaa!

CHORUS

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Hyaa!

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Rollin’, rollin’, rollin’

Hyaa!

Rawhide!

Rawhide!

 
Comment by not a gator
2008-02-16 05:47:01

I have just one question, Ben:

billion dollar homes?

 
 
Comment by beachhunter
2008-02-15 15:49:30

So true ben! thanks for your effort as someone who still makes a living in this mess it’s nice to have the truth be told. Even if the industry is full of criminals.. the good and honest people always survive! Bombs away and look for prices in san diego to drop another 30% before you even start lowballing these suckers!

 
Comment by simplesimon
2008-02-15 15:51:55

Ben,
i even got a little motivated to pull a couple of listing to look at over the weekend. 250k and 220k in my area. Thinking more or 100s.. but i may have to make a sneak attack inspection without a realtor to really checkem out.

 
Comment by Bye FL
2008-02-15 15:52:24

““Pyle said he has seen a house originally sell for $75,000 and then be listed for less than $10,000 after foreclosure.””

mortgage fraud or disgrunted FB vandalism?

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2008-02-15 15:55:37

I almost miss the days when we still had a smattering of True Believers and Kool-Aid imbibers in the Cult of It’s Different Here. True, they’d get dog-piled every time they spouted their nonsense, and then started slipping away one after the other. Now on the rare occasions that a Troll blunders in to here to proclaim the bottom is in, it’s not even sporting - we club them like baby seals and they ooze away, never to be heard from again. Even in the SDCIA it’s gloom and doom. But you’re right, Ben, we’ve definitely got them on the run.

Comment by Michael Fink
2008-02-15 18:12:27

Well then Sammy, allow me to introduce you to the troll central blog (hope you don’t mind Ben!).

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/realestate/

This is the Palm Beach Post real estate blog; and you will still be able to find plenty of believers (and absolute idiots as well) there.

Enjoy.
:)

Comment by Max
2008-02-15 19:53:42

I expected much worse, but for the most part, except the robot who posts the same REIC swill, people there and here are on the same page.

 
 
Comment by Neil
2008-02-15 21:29:05

Some of the DC blogs still have a troll called Lance

A good blog he and his troll friends frequent now:
http://novabubblefallout.blogspot.com/

They’re holding their own, but trolls are still out there.

Got popcorn?
Neil

 
 
Comment by Soliel
2008-02-15 15:58:17

I have a quick obervation from Long Beach, CA. I was driving around on this beautiful February day when I saw an open house. I am not really in the market now but plan to be in two years or so but something inside me wanted to check it out.
It was a lovely craftsman style home divided to create a rental as well as the home. It was lovely…except for some very unfinished work, holes in the walls, etc. They were asking $679,000. I asked the realtor how much the owners paid (I had seen it was a foreclosure sale), they paid $890,000.
That must absolutely suck. That is why I saw the unfinished work. I could tell they put a lot in to what they did do and now they are $200,000 under…what a bummer. I calculated a 23% drop?

Comment by Toast on the Coast, 90803
2008-02-15 18:02:00

I have been selling real estate in the Long Beach Area for the last 20 years. I did not represent buyers for the last 4. I knew this was a train wreck waiting to happen. My observation are that in North and West long Beach prices are about 35-40% off the highs. The majority of the listings in those areas are Bank owned or Short pays. I just saw a condo in a new high rise on Ocean Blvd come on the market at $800,000 and the previous transfer price of one year ago was $1,4000,000. There is not one single family residence in Signal Hill in escrow.
Look out Below!

 
 
Comment by Bye FL
2008-02-15 16:01:21

““‘In the next six months to a year, people are going to be saying, ‘Why didn’t I buy in the first quarter of 2008?’ Hart said.””

Do the opposite of what those idiots say. Bottom won’t be before 2012.

Comment by smf
2008-02-15 16:35:28

Raise your hands those who are itching to move to Omaha…

*chirp*
*chirp*

- anyone?
- Buehler?

Comment by Neil
2008-02-15 22:35:34

lol
I wonder if they realize people have heard that for so long that it doesn’t work anymore!

Got popcorn?
Neil

 
 
Comment by crispy&cole
2008-02-15 16:40:27

Omaha - Sounds like a good place for a “Buffet will buy it RUMOR…”

Comment by aqius
2008-02-15 18:00:15

” ah, 10-4 rubber duck, whats yer 20? OMAHA ?!?!? “

Comment by Wheatie
2008-02-15 18:09:13

It’s a convoy!…to the bottom.

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Comment by Max
2008-02-15 19:57:07

““‘In the next six months to a year, people are going to be saying, ‘Why didn’t I buy in the first quarter of 2008?’ Hart said.””

He left out the part that people are gonna say later:

“Just kidding!”

Comment by lazarus
2008-02-16 05:58:22

Mr Hart, if you are so sure about the turnaround why don’t you start backing your words with some action. Like if prices keep falling you will guarantee the buyers against loss. In the meantime it’s best that you keep your predictions to yourself and stop talking in your sleep.

 
 
Comment by Joe
2008-02-16 10:52:51

I’m sure this clown was saying the same thing about 2007, and will revise his bottom-calling forecast every quarter for the next few years, or until he goes broke.

 
 
Comment by Bye FL
2008-02-15 16:10:24

“‘We’re going through the painful transition toward pricing that is realistic and we’re nowhere near that (yet),’ said economist Christopher Thornberg. ‘Even though your local real estate agent will tell you, it’s OK in this neighborhood or it’s a wonderful time to buy because interest rates are low, all that’s wrong. If you’re buying into this market, you’re overpaying.’”

Correct!

Comment by aqius
2008-02-15 18:08:15

remember when the realtors (hello Julie I’m-so-fashionable-on-my-Napa-limo-wine-tour-look-at-my-67-pics Jalone) were sneering at foreclosures & short sales back in the day, about, oh … I dunno … LAST YEAR ?! I do.

the beauty of the written word is that its pretty much a lasting record of a persons testimony, good or bad, correct or not. thanks to the internet we can now all have easily verifiable info at our fingertips to check just who was a straight shooter, and who flip-flopped when the foreclosures mounted & now chirpily chants about “wonderful savings” from foreclosures.

ahh, those fair-weather realtors. gotta love em. or not.

 
 
Comment by thankfulrenter
2008-02-15 16:10:44

hahaha, that James Pyle quote was a hoot. “From inexpensive to billion dollar home” heheehehehehe. Billion dollar homes? In East Lansing? hahahahaha.

Comment by princegoro
2008-02-15 16:13:39

Dr. Evil: “20 million… gazillion dollars”.. hahahaha

Comment by Desertdweller
2008-02-15 23:51:49

Thats the ticket. Yeah.

 
 
Comment by Groundhogday
2008-02-15 17:54:30

I interviewed at MSU a few years back and the faculty at that time were convinced that East Lansing was taking off. “It is such a great place to live.” I had to be nice, so I just nodded and said “hmmmm”. East Lansing has the perks of a college town, but nothing special otherwise… unless you really like 6 months of damp, grey winter and humid, mosquito infested summers.

 
Comment by Scotty
2008-02-15 21:13:47

Billion dollar homes anywhere is more like it. Need to wait for the next bubble to see that….

Comment by dude
2008-02-16 02:02:32

I think it’s just a big misunderstanding. He obviously used the 1 billion as an exaggeration to denote the shear number of $1 homes there will be.

 
 
 
Comment by smf
2008-02-15 16:33:51

“Buyers aren’t going to pay last year’s price.”

Hell, in Sacramento so far were are not even 2005, or 2005, but 2003!

 
Comment by Ouro Verde
2008-02-15 17:31:59

If houses could sell for 250K everywhere, then all these pesky unwinding problems could be solved.
Affordable housing anyone?

Comment by Max
2008-02-15 20:01:08

But see, in this case our elites won’t have jets, yachts, and private tropical islands. It would be unacceptable.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2008-02-15 17:51:32

“I can’t do anything with the house. I just want to offload it…”

and

“Graeve brokered a deal for a West Palm Beach condo for $90,000. The seller owed the bank $180,000.”

Now we’re talkin’… this is good news. I’d like to repost a comment that never made it out of moderation (I’m thinking Ben was being modest): we should all pledge $5 of our tax rebate to Ben.

 
Comment by Michael Fink
2008-02-15 18:08:20

1/2 off was “too much to ask”??

1/2 off will likely seem like “the good times” in FL a few years from now. A condo in WPB, AT MOST, is worth 100/sq/ft. At MOST (that’s in a good area). There’s no land shortage, even in the best areas, and; frankly, even the best areas are still a little sketchy. I lived there, and I loved it. But it’s not for the faint of heart.

 
Comment by GPBlank
2008-02-15 18:12:53

“Pyle said he has seen a house originally sell for $75,000 and then be listed for less than $10,000 after foreclosure.”

The $75K probably involved some sort of mortgage fraud…which boosted prices up the line. This type of stuff was going on all the time in Detroit and I’m sure Lansing. I know of someone that bought two houses in Detroit, mortgaged with cash out, mortgage broker said that he could get section-8 renters to cover payments, now gone in foreclosure. Probably worth less than $30K each. Seeing this stuff go on was what drove me to this blog a long time ago.

Comment by Max
2008-02-15 20:02:59

10K for a house? I wonder, will it come to a point when Detroit pays you to get a house there?

Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2008-02-15 21:28:20

“Will it come to a point when Detroit pays you to get a house there?”

They’ll even throw in a free bullet-proof vest!

 
 
 
Comment by Left LA Behind
2008-02-15 18:28:38

I am stuck in Florida for about 10 days on business. Just saw an interesting commercial from a law firm. The ad spoke about homebuilders enjoying huge sales in the last few years and have not been paying salaried employees overtime. It basically was asking those who were in that position to come forward and sue the builders for unpaid overtime.

Sue them out of business!

 
Comment by spike66
2008-02-15 19:02:47

News…David Walker, Comptroller of the Currency has resigned.

Comment by arroyogrande
2008-02-15 19:59:34

David Walker - LONDON, March 14 2006 (Reuters) -

The United States is headed for a financial crisis unless it alters its course of racking up big budget deficits year after year, Comptroller General David Walker told a British audience on Tuesday.

“If we continue on our present course, a fiscal crisis is only a matter of time,” Walker said in the course of an address to the London School of Economics in which he stressed the need for the United States to get its fiscal house in order.

The comptroller general acts as the nation’s chief accountability officer and is the head of the U.S. Government Accountability Office, or GAO.

Walker said some combination of reforming so-called entitlement spending like that for health care and Social Security, curbing discretionary spending and possibly changes in tax policy likely will be needed to get deficits under control.

Even then, it will take a considerable period of time and strong political leadership to correct the current situation.

“I think it’s going to take 20-plus years before we are ultimately on a prudent and sustainable path,” Walker said, partly because so many American consumers take their example from the government.

“Too many Americans are following the lead of the federal government, they are spending more than they take in and are running up debt at record rates,” Walker said.

Comment by palmetto
2008-02-15 20:50:18

I’m glad he resigned, he’s an a-hole, IMHO. I saw him on 60 Minutes, driving around in his limo, (which is most likely paid for by the taxpayer), bloviating about how we need to scale back entitlement programs. Nowhere did he mention the costs of empire, stupid wars, aid to other countries, the health care and pensions provided to CONgress and members of the administrations, welfare to illegals, etc. Now, if he’d talked about any of that, while driving an old Chevy, I might have listened to him about Social Security and Medicare.

Comment by SaladSD
2008-02-15 22:15:49

But nobody in Amerika respects financial folk who live modestly. It’s all about image, you gotta look bling bling. Look how everyone slobbers over one-trick ponies like Jack Welsh with his luxo compensation package above and beyond his excessive payoff. He and his trophy wife write bestselling books year after year for the fawning masses. Why is it that these golden chute CEOs need their corporate mamas to pay their golf club fees and private jets? Pathetic.

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Comment by aqius
2008-02-16 00:23:52

hey palmy

seen janet reno driving her red truck anywhere about yer parts? I remember when she left office she said she was just going to drive her little red truck around the country. good fer her, I say !
get out & enjoy our scenic land.

love or hate janet, at least the buck stopped with her. she told you just what was what, and didnt take no guff. I really admire her resolve over the Elian Gonzalez mess down in Miami. Florida is so freakin biased against fathers that if it was left up to FL family courts to resolve the father custody issue, poor Elian would have been applying for social security by the time it was done.

good seein you back on the boards again palmy. back to reg scheduled programming . . .

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Comment by CA renter
2008-02-16 04:17:19

Well said, Palmetto!

I get sick and tired of hearing the elites complain about the working people wanting such “luxuries” as healthcare and social security. All the while, the “wealthy” insist they should pay no more than 15% taxes on passive income while workers should pay much more. They want to have the income caps for SS and no means testing.

Oh yeah…but we should all cheer when they encourage off-shoring and bringing in illegal immigrants to decimate workers’ wages and increase costs for infrastructure and social services… :(

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Comment by WT Economist
2008-02-15 19:16:50

‘Buyers aren’t going to pay last year’s price.’

I’ve become convinced that many buyers would be happy to pay last year’s price, many consumers would be happy to run up their credit cards and spend just as much regardless of whether they can afford it, and many homeowners would be to HELOC right up to whatever a crooked appraiser will say their house is worth and spend the proceeds.

It’s just that they can’t.

Forget consumer confidence. If they aren’t confident, they’ll just decide to spend more on the grounds that their future is screwed and they might as well party until the lights come up and reveal the wreckage. It’s about consumer capability.

 
Comment by housing hanky panky
2008-02-15 19:20:17

“Lee Avery, branch manager for the Bremerton John L. Scott office in Bremerton, is optimistic about tomorrow. ‘From here, it’s only going to go up,’ Avery said.”

Not yet Mr Avery………we’re barely half the way down :smile:

 
Comment by fries with that?
2008-02-15 19:42:30

“Asked whether the property industry was in crisis, Lugton’s Real Estate general manager Kevin Laurence said the Real Estate Institute of New Zealand figures for February and March would give a better indication of the state of the market.”

Looks like Kevin is hoping for a post-Super Bowl bounce.

 
Comment by dennis
2008-02-15 20:12:52

News…David Walker, Comptroller of the Currency has resigned.

Holey $hit!!!! We’re gona go on a real ride now! Wonder what he’ll say after the news media gets a hold of him. Bet he didn’t get a golden parachute.

Comment by palmetto
2008-02-15 20:55:58

“Bet he didn’t get a golden parachute.”

No, but he got to drive around in a limo while preaching the elimination of Social Security and Medicare. Eff him anyway. Funny he never discussed the eliminating the costs of phony wars, empire and billions of dollars pissed away to CONtractors like Halliburton, Blackwater, KBR et al.

He sure talked a good game, though.

 
Comment by combotechie
2008-02-15 21:05:05

Steve Croft did an interview with David Walker that was shown on 60 Minutes March 4 and again on July 8 of last year.
It’s worth a watch.
Sorry, no link.

 
Comment by Neil
2008-02-15 21:11:26

And they’re cutting off data. Danger Will Robinson, Danger!

http://www.economicindicators.gov/

Yes, the site says its being shut down due to budget constraints!

Got popcorn?
Neil

Comment by measton
2008-02-16 05:15:11

It’s easier to maintain a misinformation campaign if there is no real information available. Next they will get rid of math books and tell us 1 + 1 = 3

 
 
 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2008-02-15 21:33:02

“‘That’s the whole point of what we’re doing today — to get some new sticks in the air and get people excited about coming into communities.’”

I wonder if they’re going to be dangling carrots on the ends of those sticks?

Comment by Former FB
2008-02-15 21:41:10

I’d be happy if he just kept his stick in his pants.

Comment by Neil
2008-02-15 22:05:26

to get some new sticks in the air and get people excited about coming into communities.

Sounds like a nudist colony. A new definition of zero down! ;)

Got popcorn?
Neil

 
Comment by Desertdweller
2008-02-16 00:00:14

Do we have to see his stick againnnnnnn?

 
 
 
Comment by Judicious1
2008-02-15 23:34:06

I’ve been watching this blog for over 3 years now. I read far more than I write, and due to other responsibilities I even read less often these days. It’s really amazing how this blog nailed how bad this would get. My only concern now is the toll this will take on the US economy for the next few years, but we’ll get through it. I couldn’t care less about the builders, brokers, flippers, realtors and owners who bought beyond their means - they all “had their day” so to speak. Regardless of your stake in this, good luck to you and I wish you all the best. Ben Jones, great job on this blog and I admire your unwavering stamina and dedication.

 
Comment by aqius
2008-02-16 00:28:44

what the bloody hell is a “stick in air”? a real estate sign ?? gezzzuz effin christ these cheerleaders fake bubbly spin is just effin annoying.

Comment by not a gator
2008-02-16 07:17:32

now people
throw your sticks up in the air
‘n’
wave ‘em like you just don’t care

 
 
Comment by Brad
2008-02-16 00:38:24

What Would Warren Do?

http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/gateway.asp

I do have to say I am enjoying being a Berkshire stockholder during this difficult period, profits add spice to the spectating

 
Comment by montana jim
2008-02-16 10:48:15

“The lenders and the borrowers and the regulators are all in meetings. They’re in recovery, like 12-step group members, but dealing with the consequences of too many loans gone bad.”

Unintended consequences?

Actually, it was too many bad decisions exceeding their worst expectations.

It seems their twisted logic was:

Two wrongs don’t make a right, but maybe a whole bunch of wrongs will create an acceptable level of destructive behavior.

 
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