April 28, 2008

Something Is Going To Have To Give In California

The Desert Sun reports from California. “There could be one silver lining to the Coachella Valley’s transitional home real estate market: though some prices have fallen, property taxes in some cases may do so, as well. Riverside County Assessor Larry Ward’s office receives 100 to 150 inquiries a day from people interested in re-evaluating home values. Last year, the assessor’s office reduced about 10,000 property values across Riverside County.”

“The average reduction has been about $40,000 a home, Ward said. ‘We made a number of reductions last year and we’ll be making substantially more this year,’ he said.”

“Ward said another 235,000 homes in the county sold after Jan. 1, 2004, are going to be reassessed this year. What he’s noticed so far, is that the average sale price is down to under $300,000 - what it was about mid-2004.”

“‘We are actively reviewing property across the county,’ he said.”

“That could help Indio resident Lena Eylicio, who paid $497,000 for her Sonora Wells home in 2006. Comparable homes now sell for $270,000 to $300,000. It frustrates her knowing her new neighbors likely are paying much less in annual property taxes.”

“‘It’s scary to look at a $9,000 bill,’ she said. ‘If they’re going to be paying less, why shouldn’t we be paying less?’”

The Santa Cruz Sentinel. “Through sheer determination, Metro bus driver Eduardo Montesiro managed to avoid being one of the 250-plus homeowners who lost their homes in Santa Cruz County during the sweeping foreclosure crisis that struck last year.”

“But as he straddles two mortgages in Watsonville — trying to keep his income in line with rising payments while still helping his wife provide for their two children — he acknowledged, ‘By the end of the year, something is going to have to give.’”

“Throughout California, the nationwide mortgage crisis hit Latino families especially hard due to language barriers, unfamiliarity with the mortgage process, unforeseeable income changes and subprime lenders who didn’t verify income.”

“Being a Latina, Maria Enomoto, a Consumer Credit Counseling Services counselor who led the Spanish-speaking workshop, said she understands that in Latino culture, ‘It means a lot to own our own home. If you have your own property, you are successful.’”

“But some families she has worked with, from office professionals to fieldworkers, report spending nearly all of their income paying a mortgage, then buying groceries, gas and other everyday living expenses on credit cards. She said that formula is not sustainable, because debt far exceeds the ability to repay.”

“Of the families who have bought houses they couldn’t afford in recent years, most ‘probably never knew what kind of loan they were getting,’ Enomoto said.”

“Karl Skow of Hollister, who is president of the Greater Monterey Bay Chapter of the California Association of Mortgage Brokers, said homebuyers from all economic and cultural backgrounds have to also take responsibility for their missteps and be realistic about their income.”

“‘I think everyone was feeling like they were living the American dream,’ he said, adding that many homeowners who actually understood loan terms thought they could refinance or sell within the first couple years to avoid skyrocketing payments.”

“‘I don’t think there is anyone who is without fault,’ he said.”

“Montesiro’s story is a perfect example of what Skow is talking about. Montesiro said he understood his adjustable-rate mortgage would increase, but thought he could leverage the rising value of the smaller home he bought in 2000, which he is now renting out, to pay for the larger one he bought in 2005 to accommodate his family. But he didn’t count on the tanking housing market.”

“After spending most of last year worrying about how to crawl out from under the mounting payments, he said he made a vow this year to find a more manageable approach. He said he left Saturday’s workshop with a plan in mind, which may involve selling the big house and moving back into the smaller place until he can catch up.”

“‘I’ve learned tremendously,’ he said.”

The Tribune. “Mike Melvin remembers the thrill of moving into his Atascadero home. Three years ago, he and his then-girlfriend had fallen in love with the cozy three-bedroom and its wood-burning stove and weatherbeaten white picket fence.”

“‘It was our first home purchase,’ said Melvin, who bought the house with no money down on an interest-only, fixed-rate mortgage that switched to a variable rate two months ago. ‘It’s like my life suddenly had meaning. It wasn’t the answer to all of my dreams, but it was a step in the right direction.’”

“Today, Melvin is behind on his loan payments and on the brink of losing the house. He said he’s contacted his lender for help, but so far the efforts have not been fruitful.”

“‘They’ve sent me a notice in the mail saying they’ve started the foreclosure process,’ he said.”

“The sting is still being felt by homeowners from Paso Robles to Nipomo. Overall, foreclosure activity is up 20 percent in the county from March 2007, according to RealtyTrac.”

“There were 490 notices of default sent to homeowners from March 2007 to March 2008, RealtyTrac figures show. A total of 329 real estate owned properties — in which the lender takes ownership of the property — was recorded during that time period. Foreclosure activity is greatest in the North County—Paso Robles and Atascadero.”

“Kirk Lesh, real estate economist with the UCSB Economic Forecast Project, also believes that several factors contributed to the increase in foreclosure activity. Some people, he said, had taken the creative financing options, hoping to refinance later on, while others bought homes as investments with the goal of soon selling them for a profit. Some were given loans without any down payments or income verification.”

“‘I think the interest rates got so low that it just created some greed in the market,’ he said. ‘The zero-money-down loan was a good example of the lowering of loan standards.’”

“Three years ago, Kim Missamore bought a three-bedroom, two-bath home on an acre in Shandon for her children with an interest-only loan. When her adult children moved out and stopped helping pay the mortgage, Missamore said she was left with the payments, which are $1,400 a month.”

“Even with a renter in the Shandon home, Missamore said it’s difficult to keep up with the interest payments. So, she’s living with her daughter in Atascadero and paying what she can to avoid going into foreclosure and damaging her credit.”

“‘I’d love to sell it, but I’m stuck,’ she said. ‘It’s scary. If I don’t get a loan modification, I may have to let it go.’”

“Melvin was paying about $1,600 a month at 6.25 percent, but then his mortgage reset, and now the payments are $2,200 with an interest rate of 7.25 percent.”

“‘I was completely naïve,’ Melvin said. ‘Everyone was telling me that in three years, when the equity in the house increased, I could refinance and get a better loan. That’s where I am now, but the market crashed and the value of the house went down.’”

“Melvin said he’s tried to work with his lender for the past six months. ‘All I can do is hope that the mortgage company comes around,’ he said. ‘I’ve sacrificed a lot in three years to hang on to it.’”

“Even so, Melvin said he’s not sour on home ownership. ‘I don’t think we can make too much of it,’ he said. ‘It’s a critical part of our life to take responsibility for something.’”

“With the economy’s growth slowed and oil above $100 a barrel, auto dealers in San Luis Obispo County are finding that selling cars is more difficult than it has been in years.”

“‘It is gas prices and the housing crunch,’ said John Cole, an owner of San Luis Obispo’s Cole Chrysler Dodge and Cole Mazda. ‘When (the value of) your house goes down, people don’t have the equity, and they don’t want to spend money. Those two things have really started to have an effect.’”

The Press Democrat. “The steaks at Cattlemens are a little smaller. The pizzas at Mary’s Pizza Shack are a little pricier. The pastas at Flavor have less cheese and more vegetables. And the busboys at Checkers also wash windows.”

“Soaring food prices and a slumping economy are gobbling up Sonoma County restaurants’ profits, forcing them to find creative ways to cut costs and draw in diners. ‘In the 12 years I’ve been here, I’ve never seen anything like it,’ said Katherine Castillo, owner of Checkers Bistro & Wine Bar in downtown Santa Rosa.”

“She’s far from the only one feeling the pinch. From fancy white tablecloth joints in Healdsburg to family-friendly pizza parlors, restaurants across Wine Country are feeling pummeled like pieces of veal.”

“‘If people can’t afford their house payments, they’re obviously going to go out to restaurants less,’ said John Frenzel, director of marketing for Cattlemens, the Santa Rosa-based chain of nine steakhouses.”

“Not only is the number of diners down, but when people do treat themselves to a night out, they’re spending less. They’re ordering less-expensive entrees, drinking less alcohol and skipping dessert. ‘We have noticed over the last year more people going from higher priced items to lower priced items,’ Frenzel said.”

“Castillo’s cut back on fresh flowers. She’s stopped using a window-washing service, asking the busboys to do it instead. ‘They’ve got nothing but time,’ she says.”

The Pasadena Star News. “At the peak of the housing boom, home builders had no trouble getting customers to line up and buy their new homes. Demand was high, home values were rapidly rising and many lenders were offering loans to virtually anyone who could fog a mirror. But those days are gone.”

“Home prices and sales have plummeted and financial institutions have tightened their lending standards, edging many prospective buyers out of the market. As a result, many builders are offering incentives to bring buyers in. MBK Homes is no exception.”

“‘It’s a different market we’re in today,’ said Julie Tlilayatzi, MBK’s director of marketing. ‘It’s a buyer’s market. But we’re not cutting the quality of the homes.’”

“Standard Pacific Homes in Irvine offers a ‘Spotlight Allowance’ of $80,000 on selected luxury homes in Walnut…provided that the home closes escrow within 30 days. The money can be used for a rate buydown, closing costs, homeowner dues or property taxes, or to customize final touches of the home.”

“Los Angeles-based KB Home also has two programs that are advantageous for buyers, although company spokesman Keith Jajko hesitates to call them incentives.”

“KB’s price protection feature allows buyers to purchase a new home with the assurance that if the base price of their home at the time of closing is less than the original purchase price, KB Home will honor the lower price.”

“If the base price increases, buyers will still pay the original price.”

“Jajko acknowledged that the housing market has changed dramatically. ‘We’re seeing more of a market where people are actually out to buy a home,’ he said. ‘During the height of the market there were a lot of investment flippers. But a lot of that has gone away. Now we’re seeing families that really want to buy a home … and that’s refreshing.’”

The Record Searchlight. “It’s been nearly a year since an east Redding home was auctioned off for $375,000, then taken back by the seller after the deal was voided, the result of a legal dispute. Now the nearly 3,000-square-foot home with a pool on Vermeer Place is on the brink of being lost to foreclosure.”

“A notice was posted last week for a May 13 public sale, at which time the three-bedroom, three-bath home will be auctioned off on the Shasta County Courthouse steps. Balance due on the note is $333,373.”

“The home was built in 2003 on a lot that sold for $75,000. At one time, owner Don Shearing asked $719,000 for the house. But that was September 2005 — the housing balloon had not popped.”

“So with much fanfare, Shearing and Pacific Auction Exchange, a Redding franchise that he owns, hosted a June 15 auction — it wasn’t a foreclosure sale — that saw Ken and Jason Jones nab the home for $375,000.”

“But Shearing hired a lawyer and ultimately took the house back about a month later after both sides came to an agreement. Shearing immediately listed the house again for $590,000.”

“The home languished until it was taken off the market April 11. The list price had been dropped to $559,000. For the record, Jason Jones doesn’t think he will make a bid next month.”




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Comment by tuxedo_junction
2008-04-28 15:41:02

Good going Mr. Shearing. List the property at a $719k wishing price and get no bids. Then hold an auction. Get a contract at the auction for $375k (which would give you at least $42k cash). Decide you deserve much more so default and probably pay the winning bidder undisclosed damages. Re-list, get no bidders, go into foreclosure. Net result Mr. Shearing - zero to negative cash out and a tarnished credit history; in other words, a shearing.

Comment by midwesterner
2008-04-28 15:58:34

greed is an ugly thing, yes?

Comment by ex-nnvmtgbrkr
2008-04-28 16:07:20

Yes, but greed and stupidity, oh what a combo!

Comment by Tim
2008-04-28 16:20:02

Don’t forget to throw in arrogance. The deadly trio.

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Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-04-28 16:33:51

We’re screwed, ex-nnv, we’re totally freakin’ screwed.

How can we possibly JT people who JT themselves?

I’m depressed. :-(

 
Comment by ex-nnvmtgbrkr
2008-04-28 16:57:17

You can kick the protruding stump a few times…..that’s always good for a few laughs.

 
Comment by rms
2008-04-28 17:16:01

“You can kick the protruding stump a few times…that’s always good for a few laughs.”

How about some Frank’s RedHot Cayenne Pepper Sauce for lubrication?

 
Comment by ex-nnvmtgbrkr
2008-04-28 18:24:20

“How about some Frank’s RedHot Cayenne Pepper Sauce for lubrication?”

Man, my winker just went balloon-knot reading that one….and I think I sucked up half my Jockeys in the process.

 
Comment by Neil
2008-04-28 21:44:21

lol

Between Cayenne pepper and a imploding wanker my wife is wondering why I was laughing so loud.

I’m voting for the cajun spice.

Got Popcorn?
Neil

 
 
 
Comment by Nozferatu
2008-04-29 10:47:45

Why are you guys complaining about greed? This is what everybody in this country wants…capitalistic ways of life. Well…now here it is. Enjoy.

 
 
Comment by mikey
2008-04-28 17:59:14

Top worst cities for homeowner debt.

http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/2008/04/17/debt-homeowner-cities-forbeslife-cx_mw_0417realestate_table.html

Wow !
Hellooo Wisconsin…Madison, Green Bay, Appleton, Milwaukee-Waukesha- West allis…You’re TOAST !

 
 
Comment by SMF
2008-04-28 16:11:12

“Of the families who have bought houses they couldn’t afford in recent years, most ‘probably never knew what kind of loan they were getting,’ Enomoto said.”

We refinanced our house in 2002 with a hispanic firm that catered to the poorer Latino crowd.

(We are not poor, the broker was a family ‘friend’)

Anyways, he verbally quoted what type of loan we were going to get. When closing time came, my wife noticed that he had changed the terms on the paper. It was essentially done for him to get a higher commission.

After asking him to change it TWICE, we finally got what we wanted. And he kept insisting that he got us a better deal.

But we imagined what less sophisticated people would have gotten from them. A verbal quote that was then changed on paper for the benefit of the broker. And my wife has a tendency to check everything, and has a degree in math.

Just sickening.

Comment by spike66
2008-04-28 16:25:55

SMF,
Just a question, why use a broker? Why not shop around yourself, starting at your own bank? I can’t fathom your motivation.

Comment by SMF
2008-04-28 16:36:44

He came recommended from my wife’s relatives, that’s why.

At that time, we weren’t too informed about RE deals, either. But we refinanced from a 30 year adjustable to a 15 year fixed.

He was cut off from contact and recommendations after us, however. But who knows what sort of damage he caused after that.

Comment by Dr.Strangelove
2008-04-29 06:31:20

“Just a question, why use a broker? Why not shop around yourself, starting at your own bank? I can’t fathom your motivation? ”

Comment by SMF : “He came recommended from my wife’s relatives, that’s why.”

Translation: Suzanne recommended them.

DOC

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Comment by Mo Money
2008-04-28 16:36:47

It’s only the past few years that Brokers asked you to bend over and squeal like a Pig so they could collect outsize fees for steering you into high profit loans. Before that it made sense to use a broker.

 
Comment by oc-ed
2008-04-28 16:50:18

I think that most folks have been conditioned to go to the Used House Salespersons for this kind of thing. The NAR sells them as professionals and J6P is easily confused and thinks he needs a “professional” to guide them through the process. The irony is that while NAR sells this as a complex and risky process they somehow failed to mitigate the risk for millions of FBs during the later stages of the bubble. Talk about professional incompetence. NAR is the poster boy for it.

 
 
Comment by cassiopeia
2008-04-28 18:42:41

Just yesterday I was talking to a friend who bought in 2004. She said they had agreed on a 7 year IO and when the time came to sign papers it was a 5 year IO. They did go ahead and sign, though, not as smart as you and your wife. The 5 years are now almost up and they are dreading the readjustment. I doubt the will be able to refinance. Talk about renting money…

 
Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 21:52:09

Hey SMF!

Give her chocolates and lots of hugs and kisses!

Leigh ;)

 
 
Comment by SMF
2008-04-28 16:13:29

“Today, Melvin is behind on his loan payments and on the brink of losing the house. He said he’s contacted his lender for help, but so far the efforts have not been fruitful.”

That is because NOTHING can be done.When payments essentially double, there is no loan out there that allows these people to stay in their homes.

Comment by Tim
2008-04-28 16:23:02

He can’t pay. Why does he expect anyone to deal with him other than to make arrangements to get him out of the property?

Comment by spike66
2008-04-28 16:32:18

Here it is again,the California thread. Including the usual mumbo-jumbo about some ethnic culture or what purports to be culture.
In Mexico or California,the bottom line is the same…pay up or get out. No further explanations required.

Comment by James
2008-04-28 16:35:45

What is funny is the rate isn’t that high. 7.25 Just isn’t that much.

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Comment by SDGreg
2008-04-28 19:05:19

While the terms of the loan can be a problem, for most people in trouble it’s the size of the principal that’s the bigger problem. They paid too much, often far too much.

With plummeting values, there is no way out other than to walk away. Some realize this sooner than others. I wonder if we’ll see a stampede once the realization finally sets in that prices aren’t coming back to anywhere near peak bubble prices, perhaps for a generation or more.

 
 
Comment by SMF
2008-04-28 16:39:52

But these people CAN”T pay, regardless of the available interest rate.

The vast majority of bubble buyers weren’t paying full PITI. Even with a low rate, the full PITI payment is beyond their means.

Why would some of the banks bother with them, when there is nothing to do except wait for the inevitable foreclosure?

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Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:28:57

I know. All over the world (including the US), people want to own their homes because they think it makes them successful. But if you came here from some South-of-the-Border country, then you get to use that as a special “cultural” excuse. Yeah right, skip the nopalitos, I’ll have the pickled JT.

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Comment by LA Wallflower
2008-04-28 17:16:59

Well, he could always find a job that pays twice as much as the bus-driving job he’s at now. They do exist, especially here in California.

Might have to work on some skills first, though. Could be inconvenient.

 
Comment by NoSingleOne
2008-04-28 21:31:00

Test

 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2008-04-28 16:33:10

“They’re ordering less-expensive entrees, drinking less alcohol and skipping dessert.”

No kidding, I know the price of hops has gone up but when you start trying to charge me $5 for a pint of lousy Budweiser or $7 for a Fat Tire I start drinking at home. And If I’m drinking at home I stay at home and save on he food as well. It’s gotten entirely out of hand for even two people to go out for a decent meal that I could cook at home at a fraction of the price.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-04-28 16:47:44

You’re reading my mind, Mo. I’m planning on attending a monthly gathering in Downtown Tucson on Wednesday evening. In the past, my beer-ordering reflex would have kicked in as soon as I walked in the door. These days? I think I’ll just stick to the water I brought along with me, TYVM.

Comment by catspit1
2008-04-28 17:23:52

2 words: Camelbak Drinking System!

Comment by Carbonator
2008-04-28 18:35:47

That’s three words.

Az, where abouts is this monthly meeting? Is that the one where you stand up and say “My name is Arizona Slim, and I’m dying for a beer!”

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Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 21:59:44

Naw!

Tis where you proudly stand up and say I need to refill my water bottle - and what the hey is wrong with you people?

Whatcha mean no bike racks!

HAR!
Leigh

 
 
Comment by packman
2008-04-28 20:21:25

Funny you should mention that. Camelbak is headquartered in Sonoma Co (maybe you knew that).

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Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:31:06

Those prices will head downward once all these stupid bailouts and stimuli start failing.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2008-04-28 19:40:23

Mo Money:

The new trend here in NYC is lots of bars book bands for free, Last night we were at Otto’s Shrunken Heads tiki bar with my fav band The Catholic Girls…(check link) but instead of 5 bands per night playing 45 minute sets now they have 8-9 playing 20-30 min sets….hoping each band will bring in their fans….SNEAKY

Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 22:02:47

Woah - bring your peeps?

Ya just can’t make this stuff up!
Leigh

Best NJ

 
 
 
Comment by James
2008-04-28 16:39:52

A coworker had an interesting tidbit.

He noted that builders are still outstripping supply for new homes. Further helping things along the government helped things out by allowing the HBs to lower their taxes. So they will last longer than expected.

Helps increase supply even more and further reduce cost.

Comment by cassiopeia
2008-04-28 18:45:00

Maybe this was in another thread, but I heard today on NPR that the index of vacant homes is higher than it’s been in over 50 years. I think it was 3% and rising.

 
Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 22:05:24

Link?

HUH?

 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2008-04-28 16:43:44

‘It means a lot to own our own home. If you have your own property, you are successful.’”

When any other mouth breathing drooling idiot can sign an “X” on the loan papers it takes much of the cachet out of “owning” a property doesn’t it ? I no longer think people are successful when I see the expensive car they are driving, I just think “jackass with a lease”.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-04-28 17:03:04

Or, as people in my circle like to say, “There’s nothing dumber than a Hummer.”

 
Comment by ex-nnvmtgbrkr
2008-04-28 17:04:33

“I just think “jackass with a lease”……..and a puny schwanz-stucke.

 
 
Comment by pos
2008-04-28 17:02:01

“Melvin was paying about $1,600 a month at 6.25 percent, but then his mortgage reset, and now the payments are $2,200 with an interest rate of 7.25 percent.”

“‘I was completely naïve,’ Melvin said. ‘Everyone was telling me that in three years, when the equity in the house increased, I could refinance and get a better loan.

Well Melvin you are still completely naïve. Increasing your interest rate from 6.25 to 7.25 (16.0%) does not increase your payment from $1,600 to $2,200 (37.5%).

Comment by Rental Watch
2008-04-28 17:13:24

Unless he went from a neg-am or interest only option to an amortization schedule.

The numbers he notes above implies a balance at a little over $300k ($310k?) and a 2/28 with the first 2 years interest only, and the loan amortizing over the remaining 28 years of the loan…

 
 
Comment by NoSingleOne
2008-04-28 17:08:28

“‘It’s a different market we’re in today,’ said Julie Tlilayatzi, MBK’s director of marketing. ‘It’s a buyer’s market. But we’re not cutting the quality of the homes.’”

You’ve got it all wrong, Julie: In a buyer’s market, to most people you would improve the quality of the home. Only in a seller’s market could you pass off a piece of crap to any buyer around. WTF?

Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:35:47

Arent’ marketing people ingenious?

 
Comment by neon kitty lips
2008-04-28 22:23:37

They can’t cut the quality of the home. Not possible to go lower.

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-04-28 17:23:04

Being a Latina, Maria Enomoto, a Consumer Credit Counseling Services counselor who led the Spanish-speaking workshop, said she understands that in Latino culture, ‘It means a lot to own our own home. If you have your own property, you are successful.’”

I would agree with the literal wording of this statement. Problem is, too many of such folks (not just Latino) bought with the suicide loans and thought they owned the home. We all know they were just renting from the bank at bad terms. They didn’t own diddlysquat. They need to distinguish between real ownership and a facade ownership.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-04-28 18:47:02

And a hundred years ago that very same quote could have come from a European immigrant. I’ve posted before how Jane Addams of Chicago’s Hull House observed European immigrants working themselves to death and ruining their families in quest to own a house.

The song remains exactly the same - only it’s being sung in more languages nowadays.

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-04-28 17:26:09

But he didn’t count on the tanking housing market.”

I didn’t count on rising gas prices. That extra $10-20 a month is killing me. One or two less McD’s meal I guess. LOL. Maybe better for the health. Might have to walk some more. Life is a beach. Good thing cars are paid for. D

Comment by pos
2008-04-28 18:10:17

I just bought a 50+ MPG Toyota hybrid. (Prius) 75% of Toyota’s sales are for this car.

Comment by Frank Giovinazzi
2008-04-28 18:39:29

“75% of Toyota’s sales are for this car.”

wrong wrong wrong

The correct number for March 2008 is 10% of total Toyota US sales. [20,635 Prius units sold of 217,730 total Toyota sales.]

Toyota Prius has 50% of total US hybrid sales.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24230209/

 
Comment by Anthony
2008-04-28 19:29:40

I’m personally not a big fan of the Prius. In a weird way (not unlike the dinosaur SUV’s which preceeded it), it is a twisted sort of “status” symbol. Essentially: “Look at me!! I’m green!”

I’d prefer a Honda Civic/Civic Hybrid. They look like regular cars and get nearly as high of gas mileage.

Comment by DrChaos
2008-04-28 21:28:24

The fact that it’s the highest efficiency car in the USA, and it’s quite remarkably spacious inside, priced moderately, and, it is very reliable despite stupendously complex and novel engineering….(made 100% in Japan, of course)

that has nothing to do with its sales, it’s just “status”?

The look also has something to do with the engineering as well—aerodynamics times finding space for a big battery.

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Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 21:30:22

Why is a Honda hybrid OK, but not a Toyota hybrid, especially when the Toyota gets better mileage and is a much nicer car overall? Sounds like you have an irrational resistance to the Prius. Sometimes people are loathe to admit when they’re wrong.

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Comment by LA Wallflower
2008-04-28 18:34:38

Sell one of your cars and use half the cash to buy a nice used motorcycle. You can easily find a great bike for around $3,500 that will get 60-70mpg. Also, bike insurance is MUCH cheaper than car insurance, if your bike is less than 750cc and not a crotch-rocket.

In Southwest weather, it’s a great alternative, and lots of fun too. Just make sure you take the MSF Ridercourse…

Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 21:32:19

I’ve done a risk/benefit analysis on motorcycles, and my calculations show that they are too dangerous to be practical alternatives to fuel-efficient cars.

 
Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 22:12:48

Great advice - if only more would respect the rider(s).

sigh,
Leigh

 
 
 
Comment by Lisa
2008-04-28 17:31:48

“There could be one silver lining to the Coachella Valley’s transitional home real estate market: though some prices have fallen, property taxes in some cases may do so, as well. The average reduction has been about $40,000 a home.”

Oh yeah. Losing $40K in “equity” is certainly less of a worry now the property tax is $500 a year less.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-04-28 18:56:33

I would love for someone to tell me the name of a county, anywhere where property taxes are a main source of revenue, that can survive with a significant decrease in property tax receipts.

This is just another trick to get people to buy now, the assessed values might fall, but if the levy increases (and it will for the remaining owners) the end result is the same.

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-04-28 17:32:00

These sob stories from CA are just something else. I left CA because I refused to buy into that insanity. So I have 0 sympathy for any of these a$$hats. Common sense left many years before that and stupidity reigned supreme. That goes from the top Idiotator on down to the lowest undocumented person that bought into the stupidity.

Comment by Jerry D
2008-04-28 18:10:48

The sun shine tax is worth everything, don’t you get it!

 
 
Comment by rms
2008-04-28 17:33:03

“Throughout California, the nationwide mortgage crisis hit Latino families especially hard due to language barriers, unfamiliarity with the mortgage process, unforeseeable income changes and subprime lenders who didn’t verify income.”

Many old cities have numbered streets because it enabled emigrants to find their way around using numbers rather than unfamiliar words. However, financial mathematics are a likely barrier to most Latinos families.

Comment by Hazard
2008-04-28 17:54:57

Numbers, yes. I’ve been wondering why you never see something named after termites, one of the most common things in houses. Or mold. Or mildew. Say Moldrot Lane. Or Termite View. Etc. Might as well be upfront about it all.

 
Comment by kpom
2008-04-28 18:05:00

Particularly when you had Latino RE agents and brokers ready to “help” them…

 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:39:03

Why? Their numbers are the same as ours. Unless they have lead poisoning (they might), then I really don’t think they can blame their countries of origin for this one.

Comment by dude
2008-04-28 21:42:52

My wife has a nephew who wasn’t terribly bright as a toddler. I thought he was retarded, until I noticed that his favorite bowl that he ate almost all his meals from was unglazed ceramic. Lead poisoning indeed! He grew into a fairly normal adult luckily.

 
Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 22:19:50

por qué Su números are el mismo como nuestros. A menos que ellos haber plomo veneno ( fueran ), entonces YO verdaderamente don’t pensar ellos lata culpar su países de origen para este un

Errr…I think
;)

 
 
Comment by jbunniii
2008-04-28 22:19:15

Mexico City’s subway system uses symbolic pictures for many (perhaps all) of its stations, in addition to the names.

 
 
Comment by SLO_renter
2008-04-28 17:37:10

“With the economy’s growth slowed and oil above $100 a barrel, auto dealers in San Luis Obispo County are finding that selling cars is more difficult than it has been in years.”

“‘It is gas prices and the housing crunch,’ said John Cole, an owner of San Luis Obispo’s Cole Chrysler Dodge and Cole Mazda. ‘When (the value of) your house goes down, people don’t have the equity, and they don’t want to spend money. Those two things have really started to have an effect.’”

Nonsense. As everybody knows, SLO County is recession proof due to a preponderance of county and state jobs. These car dealers just aren’t trying hard enough. ;-)

Comment by LA Wallflower
2008-04-28 17:47:37

His problem is that he’s not a Toyota dealer. Them Priuses are flyin’ out the door in SoCal (dunno about up north)

Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:40:53

Fully flying out the door up north, too.

 
 
Comment by rms
2008-04-28 18:54:59

The SLO area is very desirable, but the limited number of family supporting jobs would steer me away from signing a mortgage there unless I had a hefty down and low monthly payments. I’d retire there in a heartbeat, renting or owning.

 
 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:06:25

I went down to Santa Cruz this weekend. Houses for sale in Capitola, Santa Cruz, Seascape, everywhere. Good ones, bad ones, all for sale.

Comment by Mo Money
2008-04-28 18:55:36

Plenty for sale, none affordable…….

Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 21:34:06

Try making an offer.

 
Comment by oliverks
2008-04-28 22:56:28

House prices are erratic right now in Aptos. Sales volumes are really low, so trying to determine which way prices are going is a bit of a crap shoot.

One day people will wake up and realize Watsonville is toast, and it is the same school district as Aptos. That will then lead to a price “readjustment”.

Right now I think everyone around here believes it is different. The idea of falling prices is, as they say in the Princess Bride, inconceivable.

Oliver

 
 
 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:08:51

The neighbor told me on Saturday that the house on the corner didn’t really sell for $710k as reported by Zillow. It only sold for $645k. This is down from its sale price of $813k in October 2006. So now there are 2 things wrong with Zillow:

1. They don’t count short sales or foreclosure sales in their Zestimate.
2. They can’t tell the difference between the sale price and the loan amount, which may include cash back at closing.

Comment by cv
2008-04-28 19:38:22

Looking at zillow on the house I sold in 2006, the chart discards the price I paid for it when it was new in 2003 because it said it looked suspiciously low.

Comment by cv
2008-04-28 19:41:14

Zillow Data:

Since last sale 07/21/2006 -40.1%

 
 
 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 18:10:17

“But as he straddles two mortgages in Watsonville — trying to keep his income in line with rising payments while still helping his wife provide for their two children — he acknowledged, ‘By the end of the year, something is going to have to give.’”

They act like paying the mortgages is #1, and “helping” provide for the kids is #2. Jeesh.

Comment by Leighsong
2008-04-28 22:26:21

“But as he straddles two mortgages in Watsonville — trying to keep his income in line with rising payments while still helping his wife provide for their two children — he acknowledged, ‘By the end of the year, something is going to have to give.’”

…while still helping his wife provide for their two children…

Er, helping?

More to the story, perhaps?

Don’t know.
Leigh

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-04-28 18:44:46

I lived in the sunshine tax for 17 years. It sucks.

Which would suck worse. Being a moaner of some big behemouth SUV with upsidedown loan and a killer payment, or a homemoaner hundreds of Ks upsidedown and a gutwrenching murderous soon to double payment? I guess both suck. Walk away often best in both scenarios.

Comment by doug r
2008-04-28 20:17:48

Anyone that doesn’t remember the mid-70’s when gas went from $.30ish to $1.00+ a gallon deserves the pain of refueling their dinosaur. You buy the best gas mileage car you can afford, it’s usually the most efficient and best built as well…

 
 
Comment by need 2 leave ca
2008-04-28 18:46:20

How can we possibly JT people who JT themselves?

Can we throw in a couple of Yucca trees too? They have a great sharp point which is perfect for proper insertion in the pooper shoot.

Comment by dude
2008-04-28 21:47:21

I have a yucca at the ranch that I’ve walked past a couple times in the last week. It’s getting ready to bloom. Phallic in a very unsettling scary way…

So yes, I believe yucca is an acceptable JT substitute.

 
 
Comment by Semper Fi
2008-04-28 18:50:34

Only 54 comments - I was expecting over 100 already.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2008-04-28 19:26:08

“The pizzas at Mary’s Pizza Shack are a little pricier.”

LOL. The first place in Rohnert Park/Santa Rosa that I ever ate at was Mary’s, in 1995.

Glad I got in before I was priced out forever!

 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 21:40:05

testING

 
Comment by Big V
2008-04-28 21:42:13

Ohigiveup.

Peace out.

 
Comment by jbunniii
2008-04-28 21:50:52

“Melvin was paying about $1,600 a month at 6.25 percent, but then his mortgage reset, and now the payments are $2,200 with an interest rate of 7.25 percent.”

I smell a rat. A 6.25% interest-only loan with payments of $1600 implies a loan balance of $307,200. A 7.25% interest-only loan with payments of $2200 implies a loan balance of $364,140. It’s the incredible growing mortgage! An even slightly numerate journalist would have asked him to ‘fess up and tell us what he did with the unaccounted for $57k.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2008-04-28 22:40:42

Calpers CEO stepping aside
By Reuters April 29

The chief executive officer of the California Public Employees’ Retirement System (Calpers), the biggest U.S. pension fund, said on Monday he would retire, days after its chief investment officer said he would step down.

CEO Fred Buenrostro said in a statement late on Monday he would leave the fund, best known as Calpers, which manages roughly $240bn, to pursue private sector opportunities.

Is Fred gonna try his hand at environmental consulting like the CIO? Maybe they can go into business together and save the planet.

P.S. I had a small amount of dough at Calpers from a former teaching gig. I nonetheless worked diligently over a protracted period of time to reclaim it.

 
Comment by yogurt
2008-04-29 00:38:12

“That could help Indio resident Lena Eylicio, who paid $497,000 for her Sonora Wells home in 2006. Comparable homes now sell for $270,000 to $300,000. It frustrates her knowing her new neighbors likely are paying much less in annual property taxes.”

Bet you wouldn’t mind if prices had kept going up and the new neighbors were paying more than you, would you?

Ponzi schemes like Prop 13 are a real bitch when they unwind.

 
Comment by gascap
2008-04-29 09:02:23

Question for fellow HBB’ers: If you made the colossal mistake of paying half a million bucs for a quarter-million dollar house, would you let them publish the fact in the newspaper? I’d feel so idiotic I’d probably go live under a rock the rest of my life. But I guess Lena Eylicio is just another victim.

 
Comment by Nozferatu
2008-04-29 10:48:52

By the way…anyone see the new Americana in downtown Glendale? Prices for the apartments there start from $2K a month to $5K a month for a luxury townhome. Haha…I hope Caruso loses his shirt…that crook.

 
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