The Rich And Famous Are Joining The Joe Six-Packs
The Press Democrat reports from California. “After selling just 16 homes in an entire year, Standard Pacific Homes is tired of waiting for a housing turnaround and aims to auction off the rest of its Santa Rosa subdivision in a single day. Today’s auction of 17 homes at Avondale is different in one respect: This is the first bulk sale of newly built houses in Sonoma County. Standard Pacific is resorting to an auction, in part because it must meet sales goals for shareholders ‘They have to make quarterly numbers and that’s obviously a driving factor. This is a strategy to move inventory,’ said Ken Stevens, CEO for the Danville auctioneer conducting the sale.”
“To deal with diminished demand, builders have cut prices as much as 25 percent to sell homes that have already been built. Builders now sell two to three homes a month, enough to possibly put a floor under price cutting.”
“‘The second half of 2007 was very dismal. But we’ve done what we needed to do to get houses selling again,’ said Rick Rosenbaum, VP of sales for Delco Builders, a Pleasant Hill builder with projects in Sonoma County.”
“By clearing its properties off its books, the builder stops the bleeding from mounting debt on loans to purchase land, develop sites and build homes, and other holding costs. ‘They couldn’t wait it out,’ Stevens said. ‘There’s six months worth of inventory sitting there and we can cut it off in a day.’”
“Standard Pacific would be pleased to get 70 percent to 80 percent of previous sales prices for its three-bedroom homes, which range in size from 1,284 square feet to 1,382 square feet, Stevens said. Homes are sold to the highest bidders once a minimum bid is reached. The minimums range from $195,000 to $215,000 for homes once priced at between $424,900 and $479,900.”
The Modesto Bee. “Modesto home builder Harinder Singh Toor hadn’t planned on being a landlord, but he’s become one because he hasn’t been able to sell what he’s built. Now he rents out eight custom homes, some as large as 5,400 square feet.”
“‘I built this house to sell, but I haven’t gotten a single bite on it in a year,’ Toor said about the empty five-bedroom, four-bath house on North Canyon Drive.”
“He had hoped to sell it for $1.2 million, but he’ll settle for $3,000 a month in rent, even though that will cover only about half of his carrying costs. Toor plans to rent out his properties until the housing market recovers enough to sell them. He’s not the only one.”
“There’s a flood of rental homes in need of tenants in the Northern San Joaquin Valley. One day last week, The Bee listed about 50 Modesto houses for rent, with rates ranging from $600 to $3,000 per month. ‘There certainly are a lot of good deals out there to rent a house,’ said Ben Sweet, who manages about 300 Modesto rental properties. He said many homeowners have started renting out property because they can’t sell. ‘We call them landlords by accident.’”
“Barbara Billington wishes more landlords were responsible. She owns 14 rental homes, and manages them herself. Her properties suffer when nearby rental homes are not managed properly.”
“‘I see Bay Area people who own property (in Modesto), and all they want is to put someone in the home,’ Billington said. Too often, she said, bad tenants aren’t screened out, which causes problems throughout the neighborhood.”
The Merced Sun Star. “A deep, dark, dirty swimming pool was abandoned in the backyard of a home in Merced. Pieces of cardboard and a decrepit soccer ball floated in its putrid water. But the worst sight was the carpet of tiny black creatures wiggling within it.”
“Pools have become a huge problem, especially this year. The rise in foreclosed homes, combined with people letting their own swimming pools fall into disrepair, has brought a large number of urban mosquitoes into Merced County, said Allan Inman, manager and entomologist for the Merced County Mosquito Abatement District.”
“The ongoing dilemma cities face is getting people to take responsibility for pools before they become stagnant. If someone still lives where a swimming pool has become a mosquito haven, the city or abatement district can contact the resident and tell them to fix the problem. But if a green pool is at a foreclosed home that has been empty for months — things get more complicated.”
City spokesman Mike Conway agreed that keeping the pools clean is the bank’s responsibility. But lenders aren’t often in the neighborhood to spot a potential problem. And banks can’t work with homes that have fallen into disrepair until they have legal possession of the property, said Andy Krotik, an agent for Gonella Realty in Merced and Atwater.”
“‘I get complaints on a fairly regular basis,’ he said. ‘By the time I show up, the house has already been foreclosed on and the pool’s already green.’”
“He submits a bid to the bank to get the pool clean, an approval process that can take weeks. ‘We are usually dealing with someone out of state with several thousand pools to clean up,’ Krotik said, adding that stopping the problem before it starts does not appear to be a possibility. ‘If someone’s losing their home, they are probably not going to take care of their pool.’”
The Bakersfield Califronian. “These days, areas of southwest Bakersfield subdivisions are works in progress. There are streets that look like construction zones; others, ghost towns. But as these snapshots reveal, go inside the block walls and there are people who don’t mind living a somewhat isolated existence.”
“Some residents who call these communities home like the elbow room. Carpenter Carlos Ortiz Castillo and his relatives moved to a home on a quarter-acre lot off McKee Road. He likes the quiet and, when he threw a big barbecue, nobody complained.”
“‘Where we lived before, the kids would play inside. They didn’t want to go outside hardly,’ Castillo said. ‘I think they feel more free.’”
“Life in nearby Windwood is ‘like living in the country and being in the city,’ said accountant Marianne Diaz, who was walking pups with her daughter across an empty field near Panama Lane and Buena Vista Road. When Diaz moved in around Labor Day last year, there weren’t many homes on her street for six or seven months. But she felt reassured because a security guard worked overnight, and that person was diligent about ensuring people in the neighborhood had a reason to be there.”
“There are likely residents living in newer areas with larger concerns than blowing dust. ‘I kind of view it as they may just be disappointed,’ Jim Eggert of the city’s planning department said. The housing market took major hits, and ‘the neighborhood they thought they were moving into just didn’t happen as quickly as they’d like. Obviously everybody wants to see the subdivisions built and people living in them.’”
The Daily Bulletin. “Nationwide foreclosure rates hit a record high the first quarter of this year - according to a Mortgage Bankers Association report released Thursday - and residents in San Bernardino and Riverside counties are living right in the middle of this phenomenon.”
“The news is good for some home buyers looking to scoop up deals, but others are feeling the harsh brunt of this troubled housing slump. Take Vicki Carpenter, for instance, a 17-year real-estate agent. ‘I’ve worked harder now than I ever have in 17 years,’ said the former president of the Riverside-based Inland Valley Association of Realtors. ”About 80 percent of my business is REO.’”
“REO is code for bank-owned, which happens after homeowners go belly up on their mortgages. Some experts say there’s another tidal wave of foreclosures will hit the market later this year, assuming it hasn’t already. It’s likely to push prices even lower, extending a vicious cycle.”
“Slumping home values are being blamed in large part for the rising tide of foreclosures. Troubled borrowers are left owing more to the bank than their homes are worth. They can’t sell without taking a huge financial hit, so they just walk away.”
The San Francisco Chronicle. “A cavalcade of the rich and famous is joining the Joe Six-Packs threatened with bank repossessions of their homes. Cheery TV sidekick Ed McMahon and former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield this week became the latest celebrities ensnared in the worldwide credit crisis.”
“McMahon and wife Pamela ‘understand that they are in the same situation as hundreds of thousands of other hardworking Americans, and their hearts go out to them,’ a spokesman said.”
“From King of Pop Michael Jackson to Queen of Soul Aretha Franklin, plenty of superstars recently racked up real estate debts. Some played ‘make a deal” and got reinstated; some got kicked out; some chose to walk away.”
“She may not be a household name, but the California congresswoman represents the Golden State in more ways than one. Just like many constituents, she evidently bet big on the real estate boom - and lost. She’s had three houses in foreclosure proceedings in recent months. Her Sacramento home was sold at a foreclosure auction in March, while her properties in Long Beach and San Pedro went into default, according to press reports.”
“She caught up on payments for the Long Beach house and qualified for a loan modification on the San Pedro property. Richardson blamed the foreclosure on her lender’s ‘miscommunication’ and said she would pay almost $9,000 in back property taxes she owes.”
“Getting behind on his mortgage may be the most normal thing Jackson has done in years. His sprawling Neverland Ranch in Santa Barbara County, complete with train, merry-go-round and Ferris wheel, was due to hit the auction block this spring. In a last-minute reprieve, a private investment company swooped in and bought the loan. Press reports said the company wants Jacko to pay it back by staging an Elvis-style comeback in Las Vegas.”
“A couple of ugly divorces cost the former American League MVP some of the millions he racked up during his baseball career. Canseco could be a pitchman for walk-away homeowners. ‘It didn’t make financial sense for me to keep paying a mortgage on a home that was basically owned by someone else,’ he said about his $2.5 million Encino home. ‘I decided to just let it go.’”
The Daily Breeze. “The foreclosure epidemic sweeping the United States has a silver lining - home prices have been pushed so low that charitable housing groups have been snapping up properties. Throughout Los Angeles, the Christian-based Habitat for Humanity, one of the best-known affordable housing nonprofits, has capitalized on homes that have hit their lowest prices in three decades.”
“‘We’re seeing opportunities to buy homes at less than what it would cost to build a home,’ said Erin Rank, CEO for the Greater Los Angeles chapter of Habitat for Humanity. ‘For the first time in five years, we’re seeing single-family homes listed for under $200,000.’”
“The local chapter of the ecumenical nonprofit, which finished building 16 homes in San Pedro in late 2007, purchased two existing homes in Lynwood. The organization is eyeing more than 50 other homes throughout the region, many of them bank-owned foreclosures, officials said.”
“Depending on the property and scope of the work, the organization will use volunteers to either refurbish the homes or tear them down and build new ones. ‘Some of these homes have sat on the market for well over 60 days,’ Rank said.”
“Home prices have plummeted about 21 percent in the Los Angeles region since March 2007, according to a report last month from the S&P/Case Shiller home price index. In some areas, prices have fallen as much as $100,000 over the past 12 months.”
“The San Fernando Valley Chapter of Habitat for Humanity is also closing in on a sizable piece of property in Pacoima, officials said. The low price stems from a developer selling off portions of the land at a reduced price because of the foreclosure crisis, said Donna Deutschman, executive director.”
“‘We probably would have never gotten this opportunity otherwise,’ she said, adding that the organization is watching the market for other deals.”
“Getting behind on his mortgage may be the most normal thing Jackson has done in years.”
Har! That’s one of the funniest lines I’ve heard in awhile!
me, too…in years!
I think he’s getting behind,
but not the mortgage type….
Lost,
When do you get to go back to your place?
I’m returning tomorrow…we’ll see to what! Hopefully there’s a stove and refrigerator etc. there when I get back. I left my pickup/camper parked in the street next to the house to remind her that I’ll be back, so hopefully honesty and honor prevailed. But I’m having so much fun here in Moab am thinking about just coming on back here.
Michael Jackson’s creditors are as nervous as a six-year-old at the Neverland Range.
At least they both get to ride the roller coaster.
yes, yes, and what party was this foreclosed thrice congresswomen? Be she of the donkey or the elephant?
Methinks donkey to be mentioned on this blog…
Yes, they only foreclose on Democrats. The Republicans being such a fiscally responsible lot, as it were…
“Ed McMahon and former heavyweight champion Evander Holyfield this week became the latest celebrities ensnared in the worldwide credit crisis.”
Ed was on TV last night, he looked horrible and was in a neck brace due to breaking his neck about a year and a half ago. Standing next to him was his wife that looked 30 years younger. I wonder how much longer the slut will stay with him if his assets continue to decline in value. She cant be all bad though because she we “understand that they are in the same situation as hundreds of thousands of other hardworking Americans, and [are] hearts go out to them.” Since when did buying chit you couldnt afford to hope to sell for a profit before the bell tolls for you equal hard working. I guess its not a fair question since her main job appears to be Ed’s sexual partner.
So, why isn’t Ed a slut for trading in his wife every couple of years? takes two to tango. surely he didn’t think she loved him for his looks.
I never said he wasnt garbage.
“Standing next to him was his wife that looked 30 years younger. I wonder how much longer the slut will stay with him if his assets continue to decline in value.”
I like your anger!
A few years back, I had the un-pleasure of meeting Ed McMahon (and I belive his aged trophy wife) at The Sportsman’s Lodge (1960’s era restaurant/ banquet hall/hotel) in Sherman Oaks, Ca. Sleazy, to say the least.
How many years was he making $M’s per year? He’s J6P, falling on hard times, and goes on the media circut to get Countrywide to cooperate. Don’t all FB’s get the opportunity to have a notiriety pity party? The man has no integrity in my opinion. Perfect couple.
About 7 years ago I saw Ed McMahon at the Seattle Tacoma Airport and he looked like he had one to many cocktails on his flight. His nose was red and he looked like he was about ready to fall over. A few minutes later a guy in one of those electric shuttles came by to pick up him and his wife. When he sat down he looked like he was either going to pass out or puke on his shoes. His wife had this embarassed look on her face.
Here’s Johnny!
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Try not to get stucco, as these sort of auctions will tend to accelerate the price avalanche already underway, royally screwing up already-declining comps, putting more sellers underwater and more current owners on the path to foreclosure, generating still more inventory to be added to the growing glut.
Sure, lots of banks are going to line up to lend 706,284 on a home that sold last week for 518,510. Yup, I can already see the banks SNAPPING up that opportunity to create liquidity in the market.
Does anything think that by the end of this year there will be a single bank standing that would make such a loan (the guy down the street bought the same home last month for 500K, but now I want 700K to buy this home)? I certainly don’t, and, without that mechanism, there’s no reason for them even to raise the prices back. Nobody’s paying cash, and the banks won’t lend on their crazy “wishing” prices anymore.
Now, let me know when they start cutting the 500K by 30% at a shot, then I will start to dry out the gunpowder.
D.R. Horton has been holding UNauctions up this way, as well. The ones I know of were in Dublin, CA and Milpitas, CA. I’ve gone to a couple of their open house events for the Elan community at the Dublin BART station, but I’m just annoyed by them at this point. It seems that all they can do now is sit at the round table and figure out the next sales gimmick. And one never knows what their crap is selling for now unless you go to one of these events or call their office. Why? Because they haven’t posted a selling price on their website since February 2008.
For those who don’t know, I’ve been keeping a spreadsheet on this project since it began in Feb. 2006. For the longest, of the 14 floor plans, they used to post prices for all but 4. Now…it’s anyone’s guess.
Oh, wait. I just remembered that they’ve also had the “Almost Fully Furnished” sale. This was maybe 2 months ago.
I smell desperation.
BayQT~
I didn’t know Habitat for Humanity was “Christian based”. If they are an evangelical group then I can’t see myself getting involved with them in my golden years. Aren’t there any charitable groups that do good works without an ultimate agenda of getting more converts to their various religions?
They have Christian links, as many of their founders are Christian and and many churches provide support. However, one of my co-workers recently left to work in their legal department. He is openly Jewish and gay, and they have no problem with it.
Is openly Jewish a problem usually? I didn’t know Jews were hiding in a closet.
Ummmmm. I assume you are not Jewish.
Yup! Try the Humane Society.
Dog is my copilot.
That was a good one Lost.
Pls read a bit closer: ecumenical is not evangelical:
1. Of worldwide scope or applicability; universal
(OK, for the nitpickers amoungst you:
2.
a. Of or relating to the worldwide Christian church.
b. Concerned with establishing or promoting unity among churches or religions)
Many people read and understand only 1/2 of what they see on a page, hence the company I work for had to change their name because too many idjits skip 1.
For those of you who don’t know what a nitpicker is, look it up. Since you are likely reading this online, might I suggest google. (Interestingly enough, it doesn’t mention lice eggs but if you gotta scratch, go ahead)
Feelin’ snarky today.
LOL - actually saw that sticker on a bumper, on the way to the beach today.
“Christian-based” doesn’t by definition = “evangelical.” I’ve never heard of Habitat for Humanity proselytizing.
It has christian founders and church support, but one of my coworkers went there to help restructure their legal department. He is openly Jewish and gay. They welcomed him.
I worked with Habitat for Humanity in Baltimore for awhile. Was never aware they are a “Christian” organization, nor did I ever see any hint of “ultimate agendas” of gaining converts. Not sure I’ve ever seen a more selfless, idealistic group of people, actually. Ultimately I bowed out because I came to dislike spending my rare days off reburbishing inner-city row houses for people who rarely showed the slightest sense of gratitude, only a monstrous sense of entitlement.
I agree. My ppl I know say I am way too liberal, but even I only believe in giving opportunities, not handouts. I’m too market oriented to particpate in anything that doesnt give proper incentives for ppl to take care of themselves if possible.
Yeah a recipient I met complained because she still had to make payments on the place.
Didn’t you know that the Peanut Farmer (aka Jimmy Carter) was involved in ‘Habitat’? Another non market based scam sucking tax dollars from us.’ But, won’t I FEEL good if I get involved? ‘Of course grasshopper’. hehehehehehehe
Habitat is “ecumenical” Christian .. meaning that it happened to be started by Christians, but it is open to all and, in fact, one object of focus is to have all faiths join in and help… Jews, Muslims, etc are encouraged to join.
I’ve volunteered for them and have never been proselytized or made to feel uncomfortable and I’m an atheist. I like Habitat because they actually use newbie volunteers in an efficient and effective manner.
Could this possibly be the “Useful Idiot” commonly attributed to Vladimir Lenin?
Enquiring minds want to know!
Toor plans to rent out his properties until the housing market recovers enough to sell them. He’s not the only one.”
He may not be alone, but that doesn’t mean it makes financial sense. Even with a tenant, he’s losing money every month — waiting for WHAT? It would take other big housing bubble for him to recoup his losses, and that’s just not going to happen in his lifetime.
Many of these owners are just kicking the can down the road, avoiding their day of reckoning. Is it pride, an accounting trick, or just stupidity?
“Many of these owners are just kicking the can down the road, avoiding their day of reckoning. Is it pride, an accounting trick, or just stupidity?”
I don’t think they are universally stupid. I think most of them don’t fully understand what’s happening. Is their misunderstanding because the propagandists at the NAR and similar ilk keep saying we’re near the bottom and prices will begin rising later this year? If you weren’t paying attention and believed that, you’d think prices might recover enough in a couple of years to maybe get out close enough to whole. That’s entirely wrong, of course.
The leaders of the NAR and similar organizations and individuals deserve to burn in hell, if there is such a place, for their contribution to the catastrophic financial harm so many are suffering. They know better, but continue to push obviously wrong advice.
The cover article about the economy in Newsweek includes this hilarious quote:
“Lawrence Yun, chief economist at the National Association of Realtors, tells NEWSWEEK that “home sales and prices in most of the country will improve during the second half of 2008.” (Yun is the Little Orphan Annie of forecasters. He’s always sure the sun will come out tomorrow.)”
“McMahon and wife Pamela ‘understand that they are in the same situation as hundreds of thousands of other hardworking Americans, and their hearts go out to them,’ a spokesman said.”
YouTube piece claims the issue is that he can’t work because of a broken neck and neighbor Britney Spears paparazzi problems
This report claims he is just another HELOC FB who tried to have his cake and eat it too
Celebrity gossip rag claims it is Ed’s drinking problems that did it
It seems like getting at the truth of all these FB hard luck stories is never easy, whether you’re a celebrity or a J6P.
“A cavalcade of the rich and famous is joining the Joe Six-Packs threatened with bank repossessions of their homes.”
That’s exactly what Harry Houseflipper and Sally Specuvester wanted! To be just like those rich wheeler-dealers!
I’ve been amused several times by hearing FBs talk about how much money they “lost”! It makes them feel important by saying they “lost” $400,000 on their two condos. Losing that kind of money puts them in the big leagues with Donald Trump!
The scale of the foreclosures in California is mind-boggling. In the ten largest California counties by population, RealtyTrac shows that 240,000 homes are in some stage of foreclosure now. Do the math. Based on Census Bureau estimates for 2006, there are 26.4 million people living in those ten counties. Assuming 2.5 people per household, that means there is 1 house in some stage of foreclosure now for every 23 households.
Keep in mind that sub-prime mortgage resets do not even peak until later this year, and option ARM mortgage resets do not peak until 2011.
The real question is who is going to buy all of those homes?
- Gas prices exceed $4 per gallon
- Real wages are flat (wages and salaries rose 4.4% yoy in April, while CPI was up 3.9% yoy in April)
- Employment is shrinking as large companies in particular hire outside the US instead of the US (the establishment survey shows job losses in each of the past five months)
- Home prices are dropping 1% to 3% per month in many areas and are still way out of line with incomes and rents in many areas in spite of the price drops of the past two years.
- No documentation mortgages are history.
Keep the popcorn popping,
Red Baron
My Realtor™ claims that prices are justified because there are lots of oil millionaires running around wanting to buy up every house on the block up here in Alaska.
Your lying.. Realtors don’t help people “buy” anything. Houses are being “snapped up”, not bought. Get the terminology right! Sorry for the 2X bashing on that, I just can’t stand that terminology, it’s so stupid, it just grates my nerves every time I see some idiot RE agent spout it out.
Some of the oil millionaires should come down to California. There don’t seem to be enough of them here to buy up all the foreclosed houses that are hitting the market. Prices in Alt-A Bay are already down 23% from the peak, and the futures market shows that they will be down 41% from the peak by November 2010.
Keep the popcorn popping,
Red Baron
B-b-b-but don’t you guys have zillions of movie stars to buy up all your real estate!?! I’m sure the B-list can at least afford their very own McCrapbox in the Valley.
(Shannen Doherty, are you listening?)
I am sure Ed McMahon, Jose Canseco, and Evander Holyfield would buy a few foreclosed homes in Alt-A Bay.
Seriously, most people have no idea of the scale of the foreclosure problem in California. If there are 240,000 foreclosed homes in the ten biggest California counties, there could easily be 400,000 foreclosed homes in all of California.
And those 400,000 homes are just the ones in foreclosure right now. What will happen when option ARM resets peak in 2011? Many of those with option ARMs will be totally screwed because they do not have the income to repay the principal. There was a report from Napa just this past week of people using credit cards to pay mortgages on $1+ million homes.
Keep the popcorn popping,
Red Baron
What will happen when option ARM resets peak in 2011?
Yikes! Look out below! Seriously, I wonder what people are thinking. Buying at these prices to incomes. Look at the shopping… its down. Heck, look at the state budget. I still cannot get my mind around that deficit.
Got Popcorn?
Neil
Not to make light of what is obviously a serious issue, red baron…but we’ve been discussing this for some time now.
The severity of the resets might be mitigated somewhat by bailouts and loan reworking, but the majority of them will hit like a ton of bricks, especially if we are in full swing from a
deprrecession.I suspect many people will need to make tough choices from increasing financial pressures, but for now they are just cutting back on luxuries (like substituting hamburger for steak), except for the most economically vulnerable wage earners who are already hurting bad.
We’re still seeing mostly subprimers and speculators getting hit right now. Until they need to be liquid for whatever reason, the landed-but-mortgaged class can still hold back from listing their properties at market value. That market value will nose dive as credit pulls back ever further.
Surveys have shown that 70-75% of houseowners nationally still think their property has retained its peak value. Everyone is in for a rude awakening. 2011 can’t come soon enough for me…
“Not to make light of what is obviously a serious issue, red baron…but we’ve been discussing this for some time now.”
By “most people,” I meant most Americans, not most people who read this blog.
And even some people who read this blog may not realize the sheer number of houses in California involved, as a lot of the discussion is in terms of percentages. I am just doing my small part to provide the best real time data available.
Keep the popcorn popping,
Red Baron
This week, Jim Puplava had on Warren Brussee, author of “The Second Great Depression.” Brussee uses a data-driven method of analysis and he said things will only get worse in coming months because of resets to option arms and other creative financing mortgages.
It’s worth a listen:
Financial Sense NewsHour
But Fox Noose Channel (Cavuto) keeps telling us to, “remember that 98% of all homeowners are not in some stage of foreclosure.” I heard that little tool spouting that nonsense just yesterday. Can you imagine if these shills ever just focused on reporting news instead of being cheerleaders? I think their circuits would short out. I still think Bob Pis(s)ani is the most disgusting, followed by Erin Burnett when it comes to flat out shillery.
“But Fox Noose Channel (Cavuto) keeps telling us to, “remember that 98% of all homeowners are not in some stage of foreclosure.”
Not in California’s ten most populous counties! Do the math. There are 26.4 million people living in those ten counties. Assuming there are 2.5 people per household, that means there are 10.6 million households. Assuming 35% of the households are renters and 65% are owners, that means there are 6.9 million householders that are owners. Assuming that 25% of the households that are owners have no mortgage and 75% of the households that are owners have a mortgage, there are 5.2 million households that are owners that have a mortgage. There are 240,000 homes in foreclosure in those counties right now.
Bottom line: 4.6% OF THE HOUSEHOLDS THAT HAVE A MORTGAGE IN CALIFORNIA’S TEN MOST POPULOUS COUNTIES ARE IN FORECLOSURE RIGHT NOW. That does not count the ones that have been through foreclosure in the past nor the ones that are going to go through foreclosure in the future. The madness in California should scare the s–t out of this country.
By the way, I enjoy reading your posts, NYCityBoy.
Keep the popcorn popping,
Red Baron
This assumes that these are actual homes. A fair number were probably never occupied by anyone, even a tenant. So the proportion of “homes” in foreclosure would actually be smaller- probably more like 2%. Still high.
Er…OK…dwelling.
TOooooooo much supply!
Inventory,
Leigh
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I love the title of “The rich and famous are joining the Joe Six Pack..”
What I find the most amusing is that where I use to live in SFL..it is the other way around..The Joe Six Packs are joining those that thought a security gate could keep “Those kind of people” away from them..
Now the Six Packs are moving in with 1/2 the mortgage of the leased up, HELCO up, under da water, McMansion Mini -Trump wannabes…
I love the gossip I hear from back home from friend who had the snobs as friends..”You won’t believe what moved into the neighborhood…yeah..HUMAN BEINGS moved into the neighboorhood…. finally!”
Regarding any green-west-nile pools in your hood: for 50 bucks i will come and drop a quart or two of Valvoline in it…problem solved.
Pool is ruined but oh well.
“People who know use Valvoline”
$50 bucks for 2 quarts of machine lubricant and a little wrist action?
I’ve met “working girls” cheaper than that!
Haven’t you heard oil has gone up.
You sure they was girls??
Good point. Some travesties can be really convincing.
Does anyone know what happened to Kahuna Bear? I miss his cartoons.
He’s in Bernanke’s basement getting worked over by Greenspan and Paulson right now.
LOL
OK this is what I don’t understand:
Modesto home builder Harinder Singh Toor hadn’t planned on being a landlord, but he’s become one because he hasn’t been able to sell what he’s built. Now he rents out eight custom homes
How can a home that hasn’t been sold be a “custom home”? Custom to whose specifications?
Everyone wants their custom home to be just like everyone else’s.
yup.. like teenagers racing to copy eachother in an effort to be different this builder, being familiar with the instinct, probably stamped out 10 copies of a real custom home.
In this case it appears to mean extras. The extras added up to convince him that at one point this Modesto house was worth a million dollars or more. Modesto has its charms. You have to kind of hunt for them a bit, but they are there. Even then the idea of a million dollar home in Modesto is kind of strange. Half million maybe.
Spec house sounds too down-market, eh?
With Canseco, Evander, Aretha, Wacko Jacko, and Ed going down the tubes, the rest of us don’t stand a chance.
Oh wait. Most of us on this blog have been financially responsible and can buy out one of the loons.
Maybe Evander can sell his other ear on Ebay to save his house? The one Mikee didn’t bite off.
The only reason we aren’t hearing about Iron Mike is that he was too dumb and broke to before the bubble?
I went to a couple of open houses in Eureka this weekend, and as usual, they were packed. The people there, in my estimation, would buy if they could get loans. This is the denial capital of California. Median home prices here are only down 6.5 % from the peak compared to 32 % in the rest of California. Like I’ve said, the state’s most expensive real estate will be in Eureka before this is all over. As hard as it is to believe, I honestly believe this will be the case except for the very nicest parts of LA and SF because everyone here owns multiple homes and most were bought many years ago. When they run out of money, they just grow more dope.
“Like I’ve said, the state’s most expensive real estate will be in Eureka before this is all over.”
That’s B.S. Where are the high paying jobs? Most of the rest of coastal California has a better climate and much better transportation access to the outside world. There’s no way real estate will be more expensive in Eureka than La Jolla, Rancho Palos Verdes, better areas of San Francisco, etc.
No, SD, I’m saying that Eureka will end up being more expensive than all areas other than the best areas of LA, SF. Our median has barely fallen, compared to SD, LA, and SF. The San Diego median is quickly approaching that in Eureka. Why? Because this is a favorite place for all the home equity retirees from SD and LA. Also, people from other states flock here to grow pot. The remainder of the people here, mainly of Portuguese decent, bought multiple homes in the 1950s and 1960s, and continue to have extended family live in them.
I’m honestly quite amazed at the way things are shaping up, as I visit other areas of the state quite frequently. People here don’t care what happens in the rest of the state…they are still buying and thinking that prices will go up. It is insanity, but it is what it is…and I stand by my prediction that this place will hold up MUCH better than any other–nothing more than extrapolation from what has already happened. Before much longer, I’m going to move to San Diego for cheap real estate.
Growth and wages drive property values. Eureka has some room for growth, but tends to expand weakly. The cannabis industry appears on the verge of significant industrialization which is almost sure to leave Eureka behind. Include the demographic whipsaw that is coming as the boomers die off and Eureka has a ways to fall yet, unless the whole northwest coast techno-megolopolis takes off more energetically than any have anticipated which of course is possible.
Your area is special
No seriously its tied into the Oregon market and the northern coastal market from Santa Barbara up is just now turning down.
But it will catch up with the rest of the state over the next year or two. My own area Irvine CA seems about 6-9 months behind other parts of Orange County. Cities right on the coast seem to be 9-12 months behind. However I don’t think that because areas are starting to collapse later will save them. It seems from what I can tell the late starters are falling faster.
Almost every single home with a price on it for sale in Irvine is underwater by right at 20% from the purchase price and its not selling. The others are either idiots or probably HELOCS.
So at lest in my browsing like 90% of whats for sale can’t lower anymore if they paid 20% down so they are all walkaway candidates over the next 1-2 years or short sales.
Be patient.
“A couple of ugly divorces cost the former American League MVP some of the millions he racked up during his baseball career. Canseco could be a pitchman for walk-away homeowners. ‘It didn’t make financial sense for me to keep paying a mortgage on a home that was basically owned by someone else,’ he said about his $2.5 million Encino home. ‘I decided to just let it go.’”
Steroids make you stronger, not smarter. Having a mortgage means the house is owned by “someone else”. Stop paying the mortgage or taxes and you’ll find out who really owns the house.
Isn’t that what he was saying?
Yes. But if that were the only issue, why would he have purchased using a mortgage. If he had a problem with someone else “owning” the house, he should have paid cash. Obviously, someone else “owning” the property wasn’t the problem. Being upside on the loan was the problem, but that’s not what he said.
I was told that steroids do make you smarter! A lot smarter. Brilliant and all-seeing in fact. And possibly important.
So we all voted for Schwarzenegger and later realized the typo meant impotent.
‘If someone’s losing their home, they are probably not going to take care of their pool.’
They might even defecate in it!
Good catch jb,
‘If someone’s losing their home, they are probably not going to take care of their pool.’
Don’t get me started on pools!
Fools that lose their homes have pools too!
Ya just can’t make this stuff up!
Leigh