June 22, 2008

Housing Sales Are In The Tank Right Now

A report from the Arizona Republic. “Thirty percent of all homes on the market in Anthem are being sold by banks, not homeowners. And the end may not be in sight. One Anthem homeowner who got caught up in the market frenzy of a few years ago is Tom Zotovich. ‘I was under the assumption that the real estate market would still go up for a while or at least maintain itself,’ Zotovich said.”

“Two years ago, after a divorce, he bought his ex-wife’s share of their home and decided to refinance at the worst possible time. Home prices soon spiraled downward, and Zotovich’s mortgage became more than he could bear. Although he regrets not selling his house at the time of his divorce, when the market had peaked, he does not blame his lender or even himself.”

“‘It was nobody’s fault,’ Zotovich said. ‘It’s just the way the market worked out.’”

“The impact of foreclosures and short sales in Anthem is even being felt in the state Capitol. State Rep. Doug Clark announced earlier this year that he would not be running for re-election in November because of the housing woes.”

“Clark, who has worked in real estate in Anthem for eight years, has been unable to sufficiently supplement his modest legislative paycheck. In the short term, he foresees at least two more years of struggling housing market in Anthem.”

“‘I would definitely return to the state House of Representatives if real estate were better,’ Clark said.”

“The housing market continues to search for a bottom as foreclosures continue to climb across metropolitan Phoenix. In May, 3,402 homes across Maricopa County went into foreclosure, according to the Information Market. Almost all of those homes went back to the lenders. May’s foreclosure figure is up from the 2,969 foreclosures, or trustee deed sales, filed in April.”

“Don’t expect foreclosures to slow this month either. The number of pre-foreclosures, or notice of trustee sales, filed also climbed in May. Last month, there were 6,384 pre-foreclosures filed in Maricopa County, compared with 6,143 in April.”

“New and existing Valley home sales ticked up in May, according to analyst RL Brown’s Phoenix Housing Market Letter. Building permits were up slightly.”

“There were a total of 7,202 new and existing home sales in May, compared with 6,636 in April. Home-building permits totaled 1,552 in May, up from 1,473 in April.”

“The median price of a new Valley home has dropped to $218,861, down from $267,934 a year ago. That’s an 18 percent drop, but Brown said it improves the market’s affordability, which will draw more buyers.”

The East Valley Tribune from Arizona. “A few builders are bucking the trend and starting work on new master-planned communities with thousands of homes - betting the right price and location will entice buyers. Tempe-based Fulton Homes opened sales for its latest project - a 2,100-home master-planned community near Queen Creek.”

“‘Houses are selling if they’re priced right, if they’re in good shape and in a good area,’ said Dennis Webb, Fulton’s VP of operations.”

“When Fulton began planning out the project three years ago, prices were originally set from the mid-$200,000s up to $450,000. Now, houses start at just less than $150,000 for starter homes and reach up to $300,000 for a more-than-4,000-square-foot house.”

“The company was able to cut prices by redesigning the houses, Webb said. Laminate countertops became standard instead of granite. And 10-foot ceilings were lowered to 9 feet.”

“Fulton isn’t the only builder moving forward on projects. Blandford Homes recently started work on a 1,200-home development, called Mountain Bridge in northeast Mesa.”

“‘Just because the market is down doesn’t necessarily mean it wouldn’t be a good time to enter the market,’ said Ben Sage, head of Houston-based Metrostudy’s Arizona division.”

“Some builders want to be prepared for the market’s return. Others have poured so much money into projects, it’s not that much more expensive to build some model homes, Sage said.”

The Kingman Daily Miner from Arizona. “Sharon Givans, the 2009 president-elect of the Kingman/Golden Valley Association of Realtors, said that while it’s hard to say whether or not the local market has bottomed out for certain, signs seem to be pointing to an uptick over last year’s sales figures.”

“Looking solely at single-family residences, Givans said 35 homes were sold in January and only 27 in February. Then, for the first time in two years, the market finally began outpacing the previous year’s figures. Givans said the primary reason more homes are being sold is because prices are finally dropping to levels buyers find reasonable.”

‘Houses within the $140-160,000 range have been selling the best thus far this year, with the median price for June hovering around $157,000. She did not, however, go so far as to say the market has hit bottom just yet. ‘What’s really happening in the market is prices are trending down,’ Givans said.”

“Kingman Realtor Todd Tarson conducts his own analyses of the housing numbers each month. He takes his sample data from a smaller area encompassing Kingman proper, north Kingman, the Hualapai Mountain area and the Valle Vista area.”

“Tarson is also optimistic about the market, but much more guardedly so than Givans. While his numbers agree that sales since March have been edging out 2007’s, Tarson noted the first two months of the year were the worst he’s seen since he started tracking data in 2004.”

“‘In 2006, clearly you can see activity falling off a cliff, and then in 2007, none of the figures beat 2006,’ Tarson said. ‘I predict 2007 won’t be hard to beat this year, but the first two months of this year were historic lows. They were the lowest numbers I ever posted.’”

“Tarson also pointed out that, while home sales are higher than they were a year ago, they still have yet to come anywhere near earlier levels. The 52 homes sold in his coverage area for 2008 only barely edged out last year’s figure of 51.”

“‘In 2005, in April, we sold a little over 90 homes,’ he said. ‘92 in 2005, 52 in 2008.’”

“Tarson also expressed concern that, even though there are plenty of homes for sale at increasingly reasonable prices, the demand for those houses could be best generated if people saw Kingman as a place worth moving to. As long as the local economy continues to stagnate, he said, that wasn’t likely to happen.”

“‘We have a surplus of homes for sale,’ he said. ‘There’s too many of us trying to sell to too small of a population of buyers at this time.’”

The Review Journal from Nevada. “Clark County has determined that the Meridian Luxury Suites on Flamingo Road, just east of the Strip, is illegally renting condominium units for overnight use. The Meridian is in the process of converting its upscale condominium units from owner occupancy and long-term rentals only, to resort condo use as well.”

“The upscale property’s practice also has caused friction with resident owners — who bought without the expectation that their neighbors might change nightly.”

“Kathleen Mannix, who owns the Meridian unit in which she lives, believes the property has been doing overnight rentals since at least May 2007, when she moved in. She said no one informed her at the time of her purchase about the short-term rentals.”

“‘I could tell. People were coming with suitcases,’ she recalled.”

“When challenged to prove that the visitors were paying by the night, she did Internet research that turned up guest reviews of the Meridian accommodations, dating back to early 2007.”

“At a Monday meeting of the Meridian Private Residences Homeowners Association, assoc. president Michael Mackenzie gave no indication that the hotel operations had ceased. In fact he discussed short-term rentals available that day, according to a tape recording given to the newspaper.”

“The hotel operation involves 420 of the of the property’s 678 condo units, Mackenzie told his audience. But only about half of the 420 are being rented. He cited the sagging economy as the reason that more units are not being rented out in the hotel operation.”

“Several Meridian guests, who were sunning poolside on May 18, told a reporter they had paid for short stays.”

“Melbourne, Fla., resident Kirk Wayne, marveled at the low room price his wife booked online for a spacious suite for him at the off-Strip location.”

“‘She said, ‘Cancel (the Venetian reservations),’ Wayne recalled. He said he was paying $119 a night during the week and $169 on the weekend. ‘The cheapest room at the Venetian was $400,’ Wayne added.”

“Another guest, Ian Schmidt, described the Meridian as ‘the cheapest hotel I ever stayed at.’ He reported paying only $800 for a five-day stay for his party of six from the Midwest.”

“‘I didn’t realize until 10 seconds ago that people actually live here,’ Schmidt said.”

“Donald Trump’s $1.2 billion Trump International Hotel & Tower and carry prices between $700,000 and $5 million. Trump, the opinionated billionaire developer, crowed over how quickly units were being sold at his noncasino Las Vegas venture.”

“Before the building was topped off a year ago, Trump said all the units had been reserved. Buyers plunked down 20 percent nonrefundable deposits for the 64-story tower’s studios, one-bedrooms and penthouses.”

“This week, Trump continued to paint a positive picture despite having closed sales on only roughly 20 percent of the building. Banks, he said, are not as quick these days to loan money for high-rise condo purchases.”

“‘Some of my buyers are richer than the banks,’ Trump said from his New York offices. ‘We’re working with people and I think we’re doing pretty well. Listen, we only started closings a short time ago. It’s a much more complicated process today.’”

“The major issue facing Trump is that a unit can’t be placed into the hotel’s reservation system until it is sold. Trump bookings start at $349 per night, some of the highest rates on the Strip.”

“‘This is a wonderful property,’ Trump said of the tower, which is wrapped in 24-karat gold glass and has a lobby decorated with ornate chandeliers, gold-accented features and Italian marble.”

“‘People love the building. I love the building,’ he added. ‘Everyone, including Las Vegas, is going through a tough time, however. We’ll be fine.’”

“A state panel on Friday offered the most pessimistic tax revenue projection to date, prompting Gov. Jim Gibbons to delay a special legislative session to allow more time to grapple with a quarter billion dollars in new budget cuts.”

“The new shortfall figure is $250 million…on top of $913 million in cuts already made to the current 2007-2009 two-year budget, bringing the total to nearly $1.2 billion.”

“Gibbons said the size of the new shortfall, combined with an announcement Friday of a dramatic jump in the unemployment rate to a level not seen since 1994, made it prudent to give lawmakers more time to consider how to balance the budget.”

“‘Today’s revelation that unemployment in Nevada has reached levels not seen even in the months following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11 reinforces the need for this special session of the Legislature to cope with our budget crisis,’ he said.”

“‘The trucking industry, the one that I represent, we’ve seen a decrease in the number of trucks registered in the state of Nevada since the first of the year, by almost 12 percent,’ said Paul Enos of the Nevada Motor Transport Association. ‘I think everybody’s hurting. It’s painful for everybody right now.’”

The Nevada Appeal. “‘There is no expectation the market is going to improve at this time,’ said Cathy Santoro, a VP with MGM-Mirage in Las Vegas.”

“She said hard economic times are reducing the number of people going to shows and the amount they are willing to pay for tickets, which can range up to $200 or more for premium concerts.”

“Santoro said MGM-Mirage is seeing a drop in food services, a large category for sales tax revenues. And she pointed out there has been a big drop in auto sales as well. And all agreed housing sales are in the tank right now.”

“Mike Alastuey, named to the panel by Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, questioned whether housing sales and construction might be starting to stabilize. But no one else on the panel was willing to bet on that.”

“In fact, the worst drop in any revenue category was to the Real Property Transfer Tax. The forum members Friday predicted that revenue source will fall 51 percent below the 2007 projections to just $119.6 million for the biennium.”

From Fox 5 News in Nevada. “Nevada’s jobless rate of 6.2 percent is its highest mark in more than 20 years. Sen. Harry Reid released the following statement Friday regarding the increase of more than half a percent in unemployment in Nevada from April to May 2008.”

“‘This is terrible news for the people of Nevada and our state’s economy. There was once a time when people thought Nevada was immune to national economic downturns, but this time, it’s different. Our nationwide struggle appears even more acute in Nevada because of the struggling housing market and rising costs of fuel and energy. Unfortunately, this leads to job loss in many important industries.’”

“‘We must support our Nevada economy with energy reform to strengthen tourism and strong housing legislation to stabilize and kick-start Nevada’s housing industry that supplies so many jobs in good times.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2008-06-22 09:12:59

The myths have really shattered in LV. And notice that even with thousands of foreclosures and NODs per month in Phoenix, builders are still cutting prices and pulling permits.

Comment by Neil
2008-06-22 11:04:06

LV has become the “Poster Child” of the Western US housing bubble.

In the local Market Observations I posted about what I’m seeing with coworkers (amoung others).

I’m starting to really listen to the investment advice Ben and others are posting here. Interesting times ahead. IIRC the quote from the Scion of RothsChild is “Buy when there is blood in the streets.”

Got Popcorn?
Neil

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 13:03:18

Well, there’s not yet blood. These are the previews.

We need a “retiree speculated on housing and now eats dogfood” story first. And the dogfood better be made in China.

Until then, pass the (home-made) popcorn.

Comment by oskar
2008-06-22 14:10:52

Love them stories, especially considering the fact dog food is more expensive than the food we humans eat.

Starting to see more news segments with pictures of the long unemployment lines. That is a start. Maybe GW could go out and jumpstart the economy by buying a pair of socks… “things are going to change, I can feel it”

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Comment by dukes
2008-06-22 11:58:17

The myths have shattered in LV, which is nice to see. As for San Diego we still have many, many homeowners hitting the crack pipe with the prices they are charging. Too bad for them that they have to compete with a rising tide of bank owned properties.

I can now find homes in the low 200K’s, but they are in shitty areas of College, City Heights, National City etc…places that you don’t want to live.

Comment by oskar
2008-06-22 14:14:51

The shitty areas you write of need to be in the 5 digits or low 100s. They are still overpriced given the current income residents make. Unemployment will start hurting those communities first as the service sector jobs get axed.

 
 
 
Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 09:20:50

There was once a time when people thought Nevada was immune to national economic downturns, but this time, it’s different.

This time, it’s “different”.

Yeah, cupcakes, it shure is.

BWAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Comment by kevintx
2008-06-22 09:47:02

“energy reform to strengthen tourism and strong housing legislation to stabilize and kick-start Nevada’s housing industry”

Not sure which particulars he had in mind, to release a statement. Doesn’t sound like good ideas. Sounds more like borrowing from the casino on a losing streak or drinking off a hangover.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2008-06-22 10:20:59

A democrat’s idea of energy reform is to either restrict energy comsumption outright (usually in the name of saving the planet), or raise the price of energy through increased taxes, thereby reducing its comsumption. Either approach is certain to help tourism!

You go Harry.

Comment by Blano
2008-06-22 10:40:46

c) both

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Comment by spacepest
2008-06-22 11:11:07

Everytime I hear someone say this, especially a Las Vegas local, I want to slap them for being stupid.

Casinos hire and fire at the drop of a hat out here. Did anyone forget what happened in this town during 9/11? I’ve heard from locals that casinos let go of something like 10K workers within a couple days of 9/11. So basically, thousands of people in this town were out of a job within a week due to terrorist activity causing a temporary slowdown in tourism.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure the Vegas casinos will keep operating in a downturn, but they’re going to do it with much less staffing in place.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 12:58:10

They have to. Have you seen their margins?

 
Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-06-22 13:41:12

Hey Space, same thing in Moab, Utah, mountain biking heaven, total tourist town. After Katrina, merely one week after Katrina, nobody visiting and layoffs started. I was shocked at how fast it happened, and there were more in the works before things returned to normal. Very shaky economies, these tourist towns.

Not to mention the time when the passes into Colorado got shut down from heavy snows for a few days. No fresh veggies, groc. stores low on everything, nearly a crises. Gasoline comes from Salt Lake region, so that was OK, but the food was getting pretty low (comes from Kroeger in Denver).

 
 
 
Comment by Mo Money
2008-06-22 09:21:53

“‘We must support our Nevada economy with energy reform to strengthen tourism and strong housing legislation to stabilize and kick-start Nevada’s housing industry that supplies so many jobs in good times.’”

What are you going to do ? Pass laws against SUVs ? Outlaw McMansions ?
For me Nevada is a place to drive through to somewhere better.

Comment by kevintx
2008-06-22 09:48:49

Yep, doesn’t seem like a legitimate function of government

 
Comment by wmbz
2008-06-22 11:01:39

“We must support our Nevada economy with energy reform to strengthen tourism and strong housing legislation to stabilize and kick-start Nevada’s housing industry that supplies so many jobs in good times.”

Ol ‘Whispering’ Harry Reid is interested in kick-starting housing due to the fact he or his son may be in the middle of some land deal/swindle right now. Never know with this shifty little fellow, D.C. has provided some excellent training for Harry and his buddies. Where is he from in Nevada? Light Pole? Porch Light? It’s something Light.

Comment by Casa de Dolor
2008-06-22 12:47:47

Searchlight, Nevada…. light pole :)

 
 
 
Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 09:24:35

Trump bookings start at $349 per night, some of the highest rates on the Strip.

That’s gonna be $34.99 before this is all over.

Gambling is the ultimate disposable income game. The idea that it is immune to the downturn is beyond absurd.

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-06-22 09:33:58

‘Ian Schmidt, described the Meridian as ‘the cheapest hotel I ever stayed at.’ He reported paying only $800 for a five-day stay for his party of six from the Midwest. ‘I didn’t realize until 10 seconds ago that people actually live here,’ Schmidt said.’

Party of six? That’s $26 per person, per night. That’s probably complete with midnight cannon-balls at the pool.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 09:47:38

When I was a student, we used to call Vegas to ask for rooms. They would ask about how much we planned to spend, and we’d quote some reasonable but absurd number. We were students, we were gonna have a good time and hit the buffet’s not gamble what little we had.

Maybe, we spent $20 on the slot machines but they probably plied us with $200 worth of drinks.

The price for a hotel was absurdly cheap. And I’m talking about the Tropicana here.

Once, they even gave us the rooms free while we went off on a hiking jaunt to the north rim of the Grand Canyon. That’s a whole night’s drive, BTW, and we were gone for a week. So they stored our crap for free for a week, and they kept the rooms (not moved it into storage.)

The idea that Vegas is a “destination” is soooooooo beyond absurd that it’s almost borderline funny.

 
 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2008-06-22 09:42:31

I can hear people say fifty years from now, “The Trump International used to be a nice place to stay until it became a flophouse for broke gamblers.”

 
Comment by The Canary
2008-06-22 10:41:33

Hm, not sure that’s a good assumption, gambling is closer to an addiction to a lot of these people, and I imagine crack sales don’t go down when the economy tanks. Many people will still find money to gamble even if it means stealing.

Comment by ric
2008-06-22 10:56:53

I wonder how much a 24 ct gold plated window brings on the black market in Vegas? Or even a shard of a 24 ct gold plated window.

People who live in 24 ct gold plated window houses should watch for flying rocks.

Comment by Neil
2008-06-22 11:08:51

lol

They are addicted to gambling. Mostly on credit. Once that credit is cut off and they’ve lost their house, their days as a high roller are over. I’ve read estimates that 50% of the Las Vegas revenue was from MEW. Now, I have no idea if that’s true; but I do know as MEW plummets, so has their revenue.

If an addict is broke, there isn’t much they can spend. If anything, they’ll work for twice as long and have half as much to gamble in the going forward years.

Las Vegas is fun if you do not take it seriously. I’ve never lost more than what I consider “paying for my entertainment.” Then again, I’ve never really come out ahead. :( That’s ok. If you have fun and keep your head, its fun. But my type of gambler doesn’t pay the mortgage on the table; certainly no profit.

Anyone else think free drinks are coming back? ;)

Got Popcorn?
Neil

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Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 11:27:37

Why would you go to Vegas minus the free drinks?

 
Comment by Hazard
2008-06-22 11:57:47

The last time we went to LV (7 years ago) we allocated $250 for gambling (slots) for 2 nights - big-time gamblers us. We won, we lost. Couple of hours before leaving I bet the last $10 we had and won - a whole $250. So, we broke even.

 
Comment by GeorgeSalt
2008-06-22 16:07:40

I don’t know about LV, but in Atlantic City there are 24-hour used car lots that will buy your vehicle on the spot for cash. Many a high-roller comes to town in a nice ride, and returns home on the bus.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Tim
2008-06-22 09:41:39

“When Fulton began planning out the project three years ago, prices were originally set from the mid-$200,000s up to $450,000. Now, houses start at just less than $150,000 for starter homes and reach up to $300,000 for a more-than-4,000-square-foot house. . . . The company was able to cut prices by redesigning the houses, Webb said. Laminate countertops became standard instead of granite. And 10-foot ceilings were lowered to 9 feet.”

I see now. It’s not that the product was overpriced originally. It was that it was too extravagent. I have toured several new homes, and even in the luxury market, the work product is much too shoddy. To get back to the historic norm, builders have to both improve quality and cut prices. The fact that the builder overpaid for the land is their problem, and if they can’t take the hit, they dont deserve to be in the business.

 
Comment by Jennifer
2008-06-22 09:45:04

“‘Some of my buyers are richer than the banks,’ Trump said from his New York offices.

Big deal. I’M richer than the banks these days, because my assets — my five-figure bank account — are counted in money I can actually get, not billions of dollars in loans owed me by people with negative assets.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2008-06-22 11:06:29

” my five-figure bank account — are counted in money I can actually get…”
I wouldn’t be too sure about that going forward. A couple of big guys (Citibank, WaMu, Wachovia, etc.) go under and the FDIC will be overwhelmed. If the FED will bail out the little guy with their 5 figure savings account is a definite maybe.
At minimum I would diversify my saving over several different banks leaving out the most risky institutions.

Comment by Hazard
2008-06-22 12:05:19

Wachovia is offering good rates on CDs this week. They listed 1 year at 4.25% in the local paper today. About 1% higher than my local credit union and bank. Guess they are getting desperate.

Comment by sm_landlord
2008-06-22 14:31:45

They did that by cutting the rates on their money market accounts from 3% to 0.5%…

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Comment by NotInMontana
2008-06-22 15:18:05

Lady caller on Money Talk said 5% at Wachovia today…

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Comment by combotechie
2008-06-22 18:55:39

To me that’s a Red Alert signal.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by SD to LV back to SD
2008-06-22 09:48:31

“The major issue facing Trump is that a unit can’t be placed into the hotel’s reservation system until it is sold. Trump bookings start at $349 per night, some of the highest rates on the Strip.”

Should say highest rates not on the Strip. Trump’s tower is closer to Industrial than the Strip, right across the street from the strip joints and adult bookstores. Classy!

“‘This is a wonderful property,’ Trump said of the tower, which is wrapped in 24-karat gold glass and has a lobby decorated with ornate chandeliers, gold-accented features and Italian marble.”

Actually it looks like you copied Mandalay Bay with those cheesy looking gold windows. How original.

Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2008-06-22 10:59:29

“‘…People love the building. I love the building,’ he added.”

So will the Chinese & Saudi’s ;-)

 
Comment by Neil
2008-06-22 11:12:18

Should say highest rates not on the Strip. Trump’s tower is closer to Industrial than the Strip, right across the street from the strip joints and adult bookstores. Classy!

ROTFLMAO

Why am I laughing so much? Sadly, I know too many engineers where the name and “proximity to services” would be a selling factor! Although at $99/night. ;) Let’s face it, the Trump hotel is going to see more Hookers than Southwest sees on its Burbank to Las Vegas flight (the so called “strippers express.”)

Got Popcorn?
Neil

 
 
Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2008-06-22 09:52:27

“the demand for those houses could be best generated if people saw Kingman as a place worth moving to.”

Hey Ben,
Just how does one get from Kingman, AZ …say to… Orlando, Florida via a jet plane? Do you save some gasoline money because you’re only carrying the weight of x1 small luggage as you drive to the nearest airport? Location, location, location is why all real estate prices are loco… :-)

Comment by sm_landlord
2008-06-22 11:05:07

“Just how does one get from Kingman, AZ …say to… Orlando, Florida via a jet plane?”

Charter a Gulfstream. They’ll come pick you up.

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-06-22 11:14:59

Drive to Vegas. This is near where the guy wants to build 100k houses or something, for LV commuters. Oh, and he doesn’t have any water.

Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2008-06-22 12:12:57

Who needs water… if you’re got and unlimited supply of desert orange Kool-Aide? :-)

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Comment by canyoncruiser
2008-06-22 09:54:38

Reno rarely gets any press however it is suffering as much as Vegas is. The most successful of the Reno area casinos, the Peppermill and the Atlantis, have both completed ill-timed expansions at the same time as they have to lay workers off or cut their hours. Forever cutting corners, the music concerts (as has been the case for at least a decade) feature singers/groups who have not had a hit song since the days of Reagan. The largest and newest downtown Reno casino, Silver Legacy, has its concert ticket office open only 8 hours a day.

Reno suffered with unusually late rather bad weather
through April and May (hi temp on Memorial Day weekend was only 58 degrees). In Reno there is typically a morning low freezing temperature from Halloween until mid-April.

A Reno realtor who started a surprisingly honest blog about current local real estate conditions is now having to move to California with her hubby and is openly fearful of her chances of selling now (reno realty blog).

Reno casinos have almost no union presence so they pay poverty wages, the number of non-construction industry jobs paying a truly livable wage is horribly low. And, of course, the construction industry has just about totally collapsed.

Scientist Jim McCanney shared in his weekly radio show (on June 12) that he has been informed that some of our stateside military personnel have been told to immediately begin stockpiling food. Mountain House, the largest and most popular of freeze dried food has stopped selling their large “bucket” type containers to the public, that production is apparently targeted for the government only now.

Comment by hwy50ina49dodge
2008-06-22 10:37:57

“…that he has been informed that some of our stateside military personnel have been told to immediately begin stockpiling food.”

Cheney right ball war itch…perhaps we should “loan” Israel what’s left of our “inter-…national guard” …the Middle East peace thing for the Cheney-Shrub legacy is not complete without a “poke-in-the-nuclear-eye”
Iran airstrike.

Imagine the price of gasoline and food then…Does Cheney know how to play the fiddle? ;-)

 
Comment by Frank Giovinazzi
2008-06-22 11:12:50

That guy’s site also claims the government created floods via “weather bombing.”

You are a nut. Go away.

Comment by GeorgeSalt
2008-06-22 16:12:46

ROTFLMAO!

 
Comment by Magic Kat
2008-06-22 20:59:50

Hey Frank, ever hear of HAARP?

 
 
Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-06-22 13:47:01

And REI was offering freeze dried backpacking food at 30% off just a couple of weeks ago, still may be on sale. It’s not the kind in the tinfoil package, though… :)

 
 
Comment by SD to LV back to SD
2008-06-22 09:57:59

“Kathleen Mannix, who owns the Meridian unit in which she lives, believes the property has been doing overnight rentals since at least May 2007, when she moved in.

Prostitutes need to make a living too.

Comment by SDGreg
2008-06-22 10:17:42

““Kathleen Mannix, who owns the Meridian unit in which she lives, believes the property has been doing overnight rentals since at least May 2007, when she moved in.”

If/when it transitions from nightly to hourly rentals, then she should be really concerned.

Comment by Hazard
2008-06-22 12:17:29

Nothing wrong with good hourly rates.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 13:15:20

Nothing wrong with good rates, period.

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Comment by sagesse
2008-06-22 14:49:09

Lol, this Meridian management obviously knows nothing of how the hotel business works: “When challenged to prove that the visitors were paying by the night, she did Internet research that turned up guest reviews of the Meridian accommodations, dating back to early 2007, posted on a travel web site.”

The Meridian is not Le Meridien, by the way. Have checked their rate (in expedia, not that I want to go there), $ 90 - not too bad. Some hotel reviews of this “Meridian” are lousy because, surprise surprise, they dont’ know how to run a hotel. Most three stars in Vegas, by the way, cost below 40 (!!) and some 4* like the Luxor were at 70, for beginning of July.

These places just seem to try everything, the MGM does the opposite: “In other cases, hotels, such as the MGM Grand, have expanded from transient lodging to residential occupancy.”

I am following the tourism side of things. My feeling is that the bubble in hotel prices was fed by the money bubble, and it was world wide. Accommodation nationwide went up 200 or 300 percent (NYC) in those years. Am interested in this niche of things. There seems to have been the same de-sensitization to the actual meaning of numbers (as in price). 400 Dollars for a room seems to shock no one, it gets paid, or charged rather.

 
 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2008-06-22 11:01:37

If it’s successful in keeping the owners of the complex from defaulting on their maintenance and upkeep obligations, what’s not to like?

Comment by sagesse
2008-06-22 14:55:44

Maybe loud parties in the condo below on friday, in the one above on saturday, in the one next door on sunday…

 
 
 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2008-06-22 10:02:24

“‘People love the building. I love the building,’ he added…
All units “sold” but only 20% of the sales have actually closed. What’s that chewing noise in the walls.. could it be a specuvestor infestation?

This Sun news vid says 182 of 1282 units closed escrow… that’s more like 14%.
Some straight talk about Trump and the LV condo situation… death of a 6th worker at City Center last week..
11 minutes. June 22, 2008

Only 181 of 1282 units have closed escrow at Trump International. Jeff asks Paul Murad, president of Metroplex Realty, if this is common. Plus, Crown Las Vegas plans have been reduced to nothing.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/videos/2008/jun/06/335/

 
Comment by Jas Jain
2008-06-22 10:17:44


SFH resales for Santa Clara Co. are increasing and should be +ve, YoY, in the June data. Price declines, many due to foreclosures, are definitely perking the demand up. Also, listings are down after peaking during May. We shall see how long this bounce lasts. One month does not a trend make.

In non-foreclosure areas, where prices are down less than 15%, sales should remain weak.

Jas

 
Comment by mikey
2008-06-22 10:24:35

Screw Vegas and Reno… If I want some gambling action, I can just deposit my checks in a US bank and hope that the FDIC doesn’t come up Snake eyes :)

Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-06-22 13:49:51

LOL!!

 
Comment by denquiry
2008-06-23 02:31:27

unfortunately, the house always wins.

 
 
Comment by mort_fin
2008-06-22 10:38:46

Looks like FHA and the down paymant assistance non-profits are working hard to keep the party going in anthem. Check this out from the publication In and Out of Anthem on June 18.

http://www.ioanthem.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=242&Itemid=1

While lower prices are enticing bargain hunters, attractive financing is also fueling sales. FHA (Federal Housing Administration) loans and down-payment assistance programs are helping to fill the gap left by zero-down loans of the sub-prime era. “The resurgence of FHA loan programs and seller down-payment assistance programs allows many buyers to take advantage of the great prices available in the resale market now,” Jones said.

The FHA loan limit, recently raised to $346,250 (from $263,150) for Maricopa County, makes a large percentage of Anthem homes within reach. Down payment assistance programs such as Ameridream and Nehemiah allow sellers to assist buyers with the down payment, reducing out-of-pocket costs, in some cases to zero. “We probably have about 30 percent of our sales using FHA or Ameridream,” said Jacqueline Roersma of Phantom Realty.

Comment by AnonyRuss
2008-06-22 15:38:48

I think that party ended two years ago. FHA may be helping to clean out the leftover bowls of dip. I say just throw them away.

I hope that the Anthem climbing rock wall was not damaged during the festivities.

 
 
Comment by BottomFisher
2008-06-22 10:48:10

“A state panel on Friday offered the most pessimistic tax revenue projection to date, prompting Gov. Jim Gibbons to delay a special legislative session to allow more time to grapple with a quarter billion dollars in new budget cuts.”

Governator: ROTFLMFAO….what’s the matter girlyman governerbaby…hahahahahaah….can’t get no more Caly suckers?

 
Comment by desmo
2008-06-22 10:51:36

Tarson noted the first two months of the year were the worst he’s seen since he started tracking data in 2004.” (3 whole years)

Tarson said. ‘I predict 2007 won’t be hard to beat this year, but the first two months of this year were historic lows. They were the lowest numbers I ever posted.’” (lmao)

the demand for those houses could be best generated if people saw Kingman as a place worth moving (lmao even harder)

‘There’s too many of us trying to sell to too small of a population of buyers at this time.’” (crying)

This guy should be called “Tardson”

 
Comment by sohonyc
2008-06-22 10:59:42

“Everyone, including Las Vegas is going through a tough time. We’ll be fine”

(This reminds me of the old joke where the guy goes to the doctor and the doctor says “I have some bad news, and some good news…. The bad news is you’re dying of cancer and you have 2 weeks left to live. The good news? Oh, the good news is that I got lucky last night”.)

Comment by Newager
2008-06-22 11:38:32

LV is so screwed. They depend on disposable income from tourists. They depend on cheap air fares to bring in those tourists. They depend on Lake Mead for water and electricity.

Disposable income is going bye-bye. The economy is not going to turn around. Why? The lack of oil in conjunction with too much debt (government, business, and household). Everywhere you look there is too much debt. We have a mess on our hands.

Cheap air fares will last 12-36 more months. Oil prices are heading much higher. Why? It’s simple, global exports peaked in 2005 and the pie is getting smaller. 2009 or 2010 will be the year that peak oil is acknowledged by the MSM and known by the general populace.

Lake Mead will be empty by 2020 unless the climate changes.

3 strikes your out.

I hope I’m wrong, but it doesn’t look good.

Newager

Comment by Lip
2008-06-22 16:19:41

Newager,

Don’t totally disagree about LV being screwed, but the water issues aren’t what you think. The water levels farther up the river at Lake Powell have risen dramatically, so Lake Mead should be OK for the immediate future.

http://lakepowell.water-data.com/

Comment by Magic Kat
2008-06-22 21:21:51

The west is still in a drought. California wants more and more of Colorado River water - Gov Terminator has declared a state of emergency… AND there’s a big pile of radioactive sludge on the banks of the Colorado upriver near Moab that the shrub administration doesn’t want to do anything about.

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Comment by Lip
2008-06-22 21:43:50

Where did the radioactive sludge come from? What has that got to do with Las Vegas? What has shrub got to do with anything. What are you yahoos going to do once Bush is gone, oh yeah, pick on McCain.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by ghostwriter
2008-06-22 12:34:34

“Mike Alastuey, named to the panel by Assembly Speaker Barbara Buckley, questioned whether housing sales and construction might be starting to stabilize. But no one else on the panel was willing to bet on that.”

“In fact, the worst drop in any revenue category was to the Real Property Transfer Tax.

This tax will be a good indicator. In our state, at least, it’s based on the sale price. So either fewer props are selling or the sales prices are really dropping.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-06-22 13:13:58

Either way, it’s fecaltime!

YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
2008-06-22 13:06:15

(from 1st article)

“he does not blame his lender or even himself.”

“‘It was nobody’s fault,’ Zotovich said. ‘It’s just the way the market worked out.’”

2020 W. Legend Way, Athem, Arizona 85086
———————————————
Bought for $265k in 2001
http://tinyurl.com/6rbbg5
(warning PDF)
———————————————-
Refi for $317k in 2003
http://tinyurl.com/56p3fm
(warning PDF)
Hi-lite: Page 19, 5.125% 5 y ARM resets 10/2008
————————————————
Refi for $519k in 2006 (!!!!!!!)
http://tinyurl.com/5n22zq
(warning PDF)
Hi-lite: Page 15, 7.125% 5 y ARM resets 2011

The Maricopa County Recorder’s online records search is fun fun fun.

Comment by AnonyRuss
2008-06-22 16:15:04

Nice job.

The recorder site is definitely getting more user friendly.

Personally, I blame Tom Zotovich for his predicament.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2008-06-22 14:46:14

‘What’s really happening in the market is prices are trending down,’ Givans said.”

Which in realtor-speak means, prices are dropping faster than Paris Hilton’s panties.

 
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