July 4, 2008

Suddenly There’s A Lot Of Leftovers

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “The construction industry has been hit particularly hard. Sites that were once vibrant areas of future planning are now just desolate fields with a lot of people out of work. And the construction industry is one that Barbara Hartman, of the Career and Service Center of Southwest Florida, says stands out. ‘The other person in that family is required to get back to the work force to earn money,’ said Hartman.”

“Marijah Gruszewski hasn’t worked in seven years. She said for a while, it was all going just fine. Now, she’s ready to team up with her husband in the working world to get it all back. ‘We had a house, we had a brand new car, and we actually lost it all last year,’ she said. ‘We’re taking it day by day. Hopefully something will come through for us.’”

“Ivy Hernandez once had a job in the mortgage industry. About three years ago, after living in Norwalk her whole life, Hernandez bought her first home in Ansonia - with the help of a subprime mortgage. She is eight months behind on mortgage payments and facing foreclosure.”‘

“It’s hard,’ said Hernandez. ‘I have four kids.’”

“The average price of a single family house in New London and Windham counties dropped more than $67,000 in the second quarter compared to the same time last year, according to the Eastern Connecticut Association of Realtors. The past three months saw the fewest units sold for the least amount of money than during any other second quarter in the past five years.”

“Broker Camille Taylor said bringing buyers and sellers together has been tough lately. ‘Buyers are hesitating and they’re making the biggest mistake when they hesitate,’ she said. ‘They think every seller will give their house away, and they won’t.’”

“Bob Zarnetske, a Norwich real estate attorney and member of the City Council, said he’s had few closings on his schedule and plenty of clients seeking protection from foreclosure.”

“‘It’s obviously a lot more fun to work with people who are realizing a dream,’ he said, ‘than to work with people who are fighting to keep it from dying.’”

“The real estate bust has cut sharply into the revenue of the Martha’s Vineyard Land Bank for a second successive year. Eleanor Wilson of a multiple listing service, said the land bank numbers are consistent with what Island real estate agents are seeing.”

“‘The Brazilians were shoring up that bottom end,’ Ms. Wilson said. ‘But a lot of them are leaving. I’m showing a 21 per cent drop between the first quarter of 2007 and 2008 in sales.’”

“Agent inventories were down over the year by 11 per cent, from 550 unsold properties to 449. ‘Those were the people who just put their properties out there, hoping someone would be dumb enough to pay the asking price, saying ‘I’m not going to sell my house if I can’t get absolutely top dollar for it’ she said.”

“Austin realty companies say the city’s market is still strong despite a dragging national real estate market. Starting this fiscal year, there has been an increase in the housing surplus in West Campus, said agent Mike Bolduc.”

“‘Every year in the last three years, there’s been 1,000 or more new units,’ Bolduc said. ‘This year, there’s probably more like 2,500 new units, and suddenly there’s a lot of leftovers.’”

“The Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showing slumping building approvals have sparked fears of a price and rent explosion that will price even more prospective buyers out of the market. The ANZ’s senior economist, Paul Braddick, said yesterday that Australia faced a critical and potentially chronic shortage of housing.”

“‘A growing housing shortage is setting the scene for the mother of all housing booms,’ Mr Braddick said. ‘Underlying housing demand is already outstripping new supply, and the gap is set to widen sharply, driving pent-up housing demand to record levels.’”

“There may be rumours of a condo slowdown in urban Toronto, but just west of the city a new demand for urban-style projects is changing the skyline and the landscape. Last week, Amacon developers released both of its new buildings as part of the Parkside Village project in what it says is an ‘unprecedented move’ to sate the appetite for urban living in Mississauga.”

“‘People were standing out in the rain waiting for them,’ said said Debbie Cosic, sales broker for Parkside Village. ‘Amacon didn’t want them to come in just to see a sea of red dots, and think that everything had been sold.’”

“There has been an ‘unprecedented’ number of houses going on the market in Saskatchewan in recent weeks, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association. ‘Record numbers of new listings are creating more balanced resale housing markets in many centres, and nowhere has this trend been more evident than in Regina and Saskatoon,’ the association said.”

“It’s a different market than it was a few months ago, agrees Gord Archibald, the executive officer of the Association of Regina Realtors. Buyers in Regina are now rarely bidding up above the asking price, Archibald said. Even if the overall number of sales is down, it isn’t necessarily bad news for sellers, he said.”

“‘The average price is holding, so we’re not seeing a retraction as far as property values are concerned,’ he said.”

“A survey real estate company First National New Zealand suggests more homeowners are choosing to rent their properties rather than sell them and receive a low price.”

“Rowan O’Connor…the Auckland-based owner of three rental properties said he first had his three-bedroom Langholm house on the market at $274,000. But after dropping $20,000 from the asking price and still getting no joy, he decided to hang on to it ‘for the time being.’”

“‘We had some tenants in there who left it in a pretty average condition and [we] did it up really nicely,’ he said. ‘We figured it was better to sell than get tenants in to do the same thing again but it just didn’t happen.’”

“A property investor who bought a flat for £175,000 at the height of the housing boom has ended up in a negative equity nightmare after its value nosedived by almost 50%. Maurice Conroy, who owns a string of buy-to-let flats, bought the studio in Pimlico last summer.”

“”It’s like being hit in the stomach,’ he said. ‘It’s the biggest drop I’ve heard of and I scan all the property news. A £95,000 drop - that’s 50%. Even if it sold for £100,000 that’s 40%. I questioned the agents and they said they cannot value it at more than £1,000 a foot.’”

“The flat is 120 square feet. Mr Conroy and partner Caroline Faulkner secured it after a bidding war last August. Its original asking price had been £150,000.”

“‘Two bids came in at £160,000 and because we wanted it we decided to go for £175,000,’ he said. ‘At that time it only meant an extra £20 or £30 a month on a mortgage. I had it valued soon after and was told it could make £225,000.’”

“Sean Williams, assistant manager of Hamptons in Pimlico, said Mr Conroy had been a victim of last year’s overheated market. ‘Things got rather silly last year. I am amazed there were even bidding wars going on for that property at that sort of level,’ Williams said.”

“As much as Kelly Moriarty and her daughter Riley love looking at flowers in their front yard, the family is still trying to sell their Eagle-Vail home. Living in a resort mountain community near Vail, the Moriarty’s thought housing prices there wouldn’t be affected by the national housing slump.”

“However, after putting their house on the market this winter, like many other homes in Eagle County, it has yet to sell. ‘Nothing is really moving,’ said Moriarty. ‘We started around $700,000 and dropped it to $685,000 and now when it’s by owner we dropped it down to $619,000.’”

“Now, the plan is get the home to sell faster so they can move nearer to family, preferably where there are still some flowers. ‘If we don’t have flowers were not going to do well,’ said Moriarty.”

“Why is it that nobody in Vancouver is willing to admit that housing prices are starting to drop? The growth cycle that housing has experienced over the last seven years is in no way sustainable, given the household income of people in Vancouver.”

“Personally, I put the blame on realtors for lulling everybody into a fantasy world in which home prices will always rise. There are countless cities where you can buy a beautiful 2,500-square-foot home for well under $400,000, while the same home in Vancouver would cost more than twice as much.”

“To all of the buyers out there in the market, please don’t make things worse. Don’t be afraid to under-bid. We’re no longer in a sellers’ market. Don’t let pressure from your realtor force you to pay prices from six months ago.”

“The former BBC economics editor Evan Davis said yesterday that journalists could have done more to warn the public about the credit crunch that triggered the current housing price crash.”

“Davis, now a presenter on BBC Radio 4’s Today, said the media may have helped to drive up the market by over-reporting statistics on rising house prices in the runup to the credit crunch crisis.”

“‘I do ask whether we did our best to warn people of impending problems during the upswing of the [economic] cycle,’ Davis said at the Radio Festival in Glasgow. ‘My line is, ‘My God, we tried’, but when everything is going well people don’t want to hear it.’”

“The rapid job growth that prompted thousands of families to move to Northwest Arkansas during the past several years has slowed significantly during the past year. It makes it harder to sell homes in an already weak real estate market.”

“‘We used to talk about how Northwest Arkansas was recession-proof or insulated from what happened nationally,’ Jeff Collins of Streetsmart Data Services said. ‘It’s just obviously not the case.’”

“‘Back in 2004 and 2005, we were noticing the disparity between supply and the number of houses that could be absorbed that could reasonably be absorbed,’ Collins said. ‘Some folks argued that the reason (for the region’s housing woes ) was because we were spreading bad news.’”

“America’s birthday party might be a little gloomy today. By many measures, it has not been a good year for her. She suffers from a bad economy brought on by a lingering housing crisis, lost jobs and rising unemployment.”

“Yet, it would be wrong of her not to celebrate. Today commemorates the birth of a grand experiment, the notion that people living in freedom are happier, more productive, more innovative, and better able to reach their potential.”

“America should draw comfort and hope from both its past and its present. She has overcome much greater problems before. And she has a wealth of resources to battle today’s.”

“The most important of those resources are her people and her freedom; a freedom that was declared 232 years ago today. No matter her predicament, America must always celebrate that.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2008-07-04 11:34:05

Another great week! My thanks to those who support this blog. Have a great holiday weekend and check back if you can.

Comment by holytrainwreck
2008-07-04 15:41:55

Happy Birthday to our neighbors to the South. I do hope that America gathers the strength to renew herself once again through these difficult times…

Comment by combotechie
2008-07-04 17:52:06

You can count on it.

 
 
 
Comment by megmike
2008-07-04 11:56:34

The situation here on the west coast of Florida is dismal
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20080702/NEWS/807020305/1661

 
Comment by Chip
2008-07-04 12:07:53

Thanks, Ben, as always for this wonderful blog.

A question for the Yankees on the board, re the Martha’s Vineyard Land Bank. What is it, why is it and how does it work?

Comment by Will
2008-07-05 01:24:51

Chip,
The Vinyard land Bank buys up land to set aside as a conservation effort. See http://www.mvlandmarks.com/island/landbank.html

 
 
Comment by kidbuck
2008-07-04 12:27:53

“120 sq. ft.”???
They really live like kings in jolly ole England.
I suspect good dope had a lot to do with it.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-07-04 12:41:38

Yeah, and at £1,000/sq. ft. no less. And she bought a “string” of them.

SUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

 
 
Comment by NoSingleOne
2008-07-04 12:36:12

“To all of the buyers out there in the market, please don’t make things worse. Don’t be afraid to under-bid. We’re no longer in a sellers’ market. Don’t let pressure from your realtor force you to pay prices from six months ago.”

…and in recognition of the 4th of July, consider it your patriotic duty to be a serial lowballer. The more bids at the pre-bubble + inflation price, the more sellers will have to accept the new reality, and the faster this mess will be over.

Comment by Shannon
2008-07-04 12:51:41

We started low balling 6 months ago. 100k under. Houses are still listed. When they call me back I’ll lower my offer 125k under.

 
Comment by Joelawyer
2008-07-04 23:06:54

Actually, we are in a flat spin. Our fate is determined only by physics at this point.

 
 
Comment by Olympiagal
2008-07-04 12:55:04

“‘The average price is holding, so we’re not seeing a retraction as far as property values are concerned,’ he said.”

Not yet. Let’s see how it goes in the next few months, though, shall we? Hmmm?
BWAHAHAHAHA!

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-07-04 13:16:35

You can do better than that, Oly!

Let’s hear a:

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

Comment by txchick57
2008-07-04 14:03:27

Hahah. This is funny

Show Me The Moola
Posted by Dealbreaker, Jul 03, 2008, 9:14am
The new fad these days among parents trying to make their children even more savvy is sending them to finance camp, where they are learning slick little phrases like “Assets feed you, liabilities eat you.”

In the past such camps were limited to “high-achieving high school students,” which we read as, “those trying to puff up their college resume.” Now, the audience has expanded to grade-school students.

Many of the camps “[teach] campers how to rebalance portfolios, invest in real estate and use credit cards without getting dinged on fees.”

Camp Millionaire, over a five day period, has its campers build a minieconomy , where the kids use mayo moola as their mock currency.

One little fucker, Andrew Adams, 10, told his mommy that “her credit-card billing cycle had changed, and that she wasn’t keeping up with payments. Her delays were racking up late fees, jacking up her interest rate and hurting her credit score.” Roughly translated as, “Mommy, you numbnuts! Get your shit together and pay the bills on time.”

On the other hand, I guess it’s not a bad idea to teach kids some financial sense now, so that they won’t take out mortgages that they can’t pay and rack up massive debt in the future.

–Senior Camp Counselor Travis

Comment by combotechie
2008-07-04 17:49:27

“On the other hand, I guess it’s not a bad idea to teach kids some financial sense now, so that they won’t take out mortgages they can’t pay back and rack up massive debt in the future.”

The best idea I’ve heard about in a long time. Camp Millionaire seems much better for the future of our kids than the severe bitchslap from a vengeful Mr. Market.

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Comment by James
2008-07-04 23:01:56

I can see the kids come home and say this to Joe Flippa…

Dad: How was camp

Little Princess: Dad, did you really leverage all you retirement money in a declining asset?

Dad: No, real estate, it only goes up

Little Princess: I took my Christmas money and shorted the bank stock that holds our mortgage.

Dad: why’d you do that?

LP: Give me a big hug daddy

 
 
 
Comment by Olympiagal
2008-07-04 14:19:36

Well, see, I’m still learning. I don’t want to hurt myself, so I started out kinda shy-like, with more of a modest sort of bellow of overjoyed sarcastic merriment.

Hey, guess what, fasty? That’s right, I’m grilling purloined oysters again! The best kind. Just like the other day, except this time I borrowed more, since I plan to eat them alllll day long, and not just one little piddlin’ meal. It’s the 4th of July! Beer and oysters and fireworks!
If you were here you could be Captain Sarcastic and I could be your semi-reliable side-kick, Snarky Girl. We could set off giant booming illegal rockets from the Squaxin rez until someone lost an eye.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-07-04 14:37:25

How does one purloin an oyster?

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Comment by Olympiagal
2008-07-04 17:58:16

You steal it off the beach, and stuff it in a bag and scamper away. There’s a style to the thing. It takes practice. Lots and lots of practice.

 
 
Comment by desertdweller
2008-07-04 14:58:12

Oly, is it true, I have heard, you are what you eat?
You big womanly steamed ’ster, as in sister!

Just kidding the oysters sound divine, got some sauce, butter, or what?
“sides the beer of course.

Happy 4th, going to go have hotdogs with mom at the senior center.

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Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-07-04 18:05:10

I just had a burrito for dinner, beans and rice and veggies. If you are what you eat, does that mean I’m a little burro?

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2008-07-04 18:38:55

Hot dogs and cheese here. I have a nice beef stew made, but no one wants to eat much because of the heat.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by bob carpenter
2008-07-04 13:15:34

It looks like some banks are starting to crumble like Wachovia announcing that they are going to cut option-arms. I mean why the hell are they still selling these loans in the first place? The only way prices are going to fall is if banks curtail these rediculous loans. One of my employees makes 38k a year, he’s single. The bank gave him a fixed loan for a 250k house with 5% down. How in the hell does he qualify for this loan. He bought this back in January.

I know the bottom is not yet in, many people still believe home prices will rebound.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-07-04 14:38:44

The “prices will rebound” meme is very much alive here in Tucson.

But our summer heat should take care of things. It has a way of melting high hopes and brave rhetoric.

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2008-07-04 14:43:48

I mean why the hell are they still selling these loans in the first place?

yeah.. read that the otherday on Marketwatch.. my immediate reaction was why did WB wait so long before eliminating the loans? Have they been asleep for a year? Hasn’t their stock been pounded for good reason?

My secondary reaction was: Maybe they’re not hurting as badly as everyone thinks…

 
 
Comment by reuven
2008-07-04 13:18:20

“Ivy Hernandez once had a job in the mortgage industry. About three years ago, after living in Norwalk her whole life, Hernandez bought her first home in Ansonia - with the help of a subprime mortgage. She is eight months behind on mortgage payments and facing foreclosure.”‘

There’s absolutely no excuse for someone in the mortgage (or R-E) industry to get themselves into trouble. She had every opportunity to be fully informed and I’m sure she knew exactly what she was doing.

Why is the MSM feeling sorry for her?

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-07-04 14:32:46

Because she’s not buying those big, honkin’ ads that she used to.

 
Comment by bluprint
2008-07-04 15:22:16

Victim stories sell papers.

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2008-07-04 13:19:18

“America should draw comfort and hope from from both its past and its present. She has overcome much greater problems before. And she has a wealth of resources to battle today’s.”

Yep. However, stay tuned for the “yeahbut, this time its different” crowd to drown out this message.

The “Goldilocks” economy of a year or so ago is gradually being replaced with tomorrow’s “OMG, we are doomed!” economy.

Goldilocks buyers are destined to become OMG sellers and will end up dumping their holdings, at great discounts, into the hands of those who have kept their wits.

Comment by joeyinCalif
2008-07-04 14:49:45

I have faith in the people of the US of A .. we’re proven survivors.. We’ve been through serious economic downturns of one degree or another many times before, and eventually come out of it no worse for the wear.
The same can’t be said for the EU (which didn’t exist until recently).. or for China (which has been thoroughly isolated).

 
 
Comment by SaladSD
2008-07-04 13:26:51

Reposting from today’s Bits Bucket:

Here’s Zillow listings from the circa 2006 neighborhood I cruised last week in Carlsbad. Specimen #1: Bought for $1.4 million, wishing price $1.6M, Zillow “value” $1.3M. Specimen #2: Bought for $1.5ishM, wishing price $1.8M, Zillow “value” $1.4ishM :

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020059

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69020070

Yet, here’s another home in the ‘hood which was sold for $1.9M in 2006, and just sold for $2M this past April. (2007 property taxes were: $21,748) These are tract houses! WTF!

http://www.zillow.com/HomeDetails.htm?zprop=69019980

Comment by Isoldearly
2008-07-04 17:29:58

I was in Carlsbad looking at houses for sale and said the same thing — who the hell can buy these 1970 tract homes that need everything (including a new roof) at these prices. Was talking to the maintenance man at a building in the “village” and he said he lives in a camper shell on the back of an old truck. Has to move it every third day — but the cops help him find new places cause some of them are doing the same thing! WTF is right. But the realty whores all claim prices will nevaaaar go down in the village. So .. who buys them?

 
Comment by Larry
2008-07-04 22:02:03

Wow. A three bedroom ranch for one MILLION eight hundred THOUSAND dollars. I didn’t notice any solid gold fixtures. Maybe the water pipes are gold instead of copper.

If I had 1.8 mil, I’d buy a decent place somewhere else for 200,000 to 300,000, put the rest in money market accounts and spend the rest of my life living off of the interest. And making snarky posts.

Comment by reuven
2008-07-05 01:04:30

spend the rest of my life living off of the interest.

Don’t bet on it! Once you find 15 different banks to put CDs in (you don’t want more than 100K in any one bank, for FDIC purposes), you’d be hard pressed to earn more than 4.2% on average on them.

That’s 60K/year.

Then BHO will tax your dividend income like regular income! He even wants to take payroll taxes on dividend income (Search the WSJ archives for details).

Good luck living on that. Maybe you can squeeze by today, but in 10 years it’ll be nothing.

 
 
 
Comment by housing hanky panky
2008-07-04 13:34:51

“The Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showing slumping building approvals have sparked fears of a price and rent explosion that will price even more prospective buyers out of the market. The ANZ’s senior economist, Paul Braddick, said yesterday that Australia faced a critical and potentially chronic shortage of housing.”

“‘A growing housing shortage is setting the scene for the mother of all housing booms,’ Mr Braddick said. ‘Underlying housing demand is already outstripping new supply, and the gap is set to widen sharply, driving pent-up housing demand to record levels.’”

Bwhahahahaha………which planet is this freaking economist on?

In Australia we have petrol prices going through the roof, interest rates on mortgages high (9 + %) and moving higher, people totally maxed out paying more than 40% of their income in mortgage repayments and he is calling for the mother of all housing booms!!!!

Perhaps what he left out of his statement is that we will have the mother of all crashes before his boom takes place.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2008-07-04 14:35:31

Would it be presumptuous to say that Paul B. has gone walkabout?

 
 
Comment by Molly
2008-07-04 13:45:14

“Broker Camille Taylor said bringing buyers and sellers together has been tough lately. ‘Buyers are hesitating and they’re making the biggest mistake when they hesitate,’ she said. ‘They think every seller will give their house away, and they won’t.’”

Oh, Camille, you big giant idiot, sure they will. Eventually, anyway, when they foreclose. Notice how when a Realtor feels insecure about her commission she makes empty threats?

If I was bidding in today’s market (I absolutely would not, but IF), I would keep coming back with lower bids after each rejection. We all know that real estate always goes down…it’s time these liars and deniers learned it too.

Comment by Real Estate Refugee
2008-07-04 14:49:57

‘They think every seller will give their house away, and they won’t.’”

If they think I’m going to give my money away, I won’t!

Comment by Hazard
2008-07-04 15:38:14

A year ago I was looking at a house in Mi (outside Detroit) in a very nice area. It was a good house, well taken care of. I wanted it so finally I offered 25% of (of not off) the list price, the agent practically threw me out of the office. Today my offering price isn’t that far off the mark, we shall see. But I’m no longer looking just waiting, no problem, eventually I’d get my price but am now having 2nd thoughts about that part of the US.

 
Comment by GH
2008-07-04 17:56:04

Not every “potential seller” will sell. Those seeking to sell, but refusing to be competitive with banks holding thousands of foreclosures are having a very hard time.

 
 
 
Comment by SV guy
2008-07-04 14:05:28

Happy 4th everyone,

Celebrate your ever diminishing liberties!

The new emigrant tax has got me feeling very patriotic today.

Or maybe it’s the Rage against the machine playing in my headphones?

WTF?

I must need a swig of kool-aid. Anybody have any left?

Mike

Comment by crispy&cole
2008-07-04 14:08:57

” Rage against the machine”

NICE!

Rascist Jesse Helms died - Good riddance!

Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-07-04 18:08:38

No, good effing riddance!

 
Comment by Chucky
2008-07-04 20:09:59

“Good riddance”

I hope you all will say the same, when Bobby (Sheets) Bird finally croaks.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2008-07-04 14:37:27

“Yet, it would be wrong of her not to celebrate. Today commemorates the birth of a grand experiment, the notion that people living in freedom are happier, more productive, more innovative, and better able to reach their potential.”

“America should draw comfort and hope from both its past and its present. She has overcome much greater problems before. And she has a wealth of resources to battle today’s.”

Here’s to hoping America can throw off the yoke of a plutocratic financial sector and restore its lost productivity. Happy July 4th to all!!!

Comment by Mole Man
2008-07-04 17:05:29

One mustn’t judge the dead, so let’s just hope he left behind a house and maybe some rental units that might come to the market.

Comment by Professor Bear
2008-07-04 17:41:36

I am guessing this post was friendly fire meant as a response to Jesse Helms’ news?

Comment by Mole Man
2008-07-04 19:16:56

My attempt to look on the bright side of things ended up attached to the wrong thread.

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Comment by housing hanky panky
2008-07-04 14:46:05

Google told to hand over YouTube viewers.

I wonder how many people that would be?

:smile:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=445585&in_page_id=2

Comment by Frank Giovinazzi
2008-07-04 17:43:17

Google’s troubles are just beginning. Wait until the next click report comes out, and the inevitable antitrust lawsuits. I know there are some Goog bulls here, but consider how much your rationale sounds like what housing cheerleaders used to sound like.

 
Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-07-04 18:10:50

1.5 bil have watched An Inconvenent Truth…wow.

 
 
Comment by desertdweller
2008-07-04 15:01:59

“Now, the plan is get the home to sell faster so they can move nearer to family, preferably where there are still some flowers.

‘If we don’t have flowers were not going to do well,’ said Moriarty.”

What? If we dont’ have flowers we’re not going to do well?
Are they a florist? Cause I would think now is definitely not the time to be in the florist biz. They can always use planter boxes and take their flowers anywhere they go? OH well, don’t get those pesky FBs.

Comment by SDGreg
2008-07-04 15:47:02

“Now, the plan is get the home to sell faster so they can move nearer to family, preferably where there are still some flowers. ‘If we don’t have flowers were not going to do well,’ said Moriarty.”

The plan before was for the house to sell slower?! If those flowers were tulips you could tie together two of the biggest bubbles in history. And if their family isn’t near flowers, what then? Do they shrivel up and die? How were they surviving in Vail? It’s not known for its year round growing season. And if the flowers don’t have to be outdoors, where can’t you grow flowers indoors?

Comment by Lost In Utah
2008-07-04 18:14:48

Guys, guys, use some sense here, it appears that they must be EATING the flowers, why else the despair?…True flower children.

OK, so I’m tired… :)

Comment by aqius
2008-07-04 18:38:27

they should move within view of cemetary. plenty of flowers.

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Comment by ba_lurker
2008-07-04 22:50:40

To BBC’s Evan Davis’ claim that media could have done more to warn the public about excesses,

I would say that if you read the right kind of papers/magazines, you would have had plenty of advance warning about the credit bubble (of which the housing bubble was the primary and main symptom).

The Financial Times and the Economist have been warning readers about all these issues and imbalances building up for years. Don’t look for anything in the US MSM (including the WSJ) to talk negatively about anything though. Very hard to bite the hand (RE ad spending) that feeds you.

Most everyone where I live believe the San Jose Mercury News is the beacon of unbiased journalism. The SJMN is very shocked that Santa Clara county has experienced a YoY drop in median prices, and assures readers that the worst is completely over with the second half 2008 recovery beginning.

Comment by reuven
2008-07-05 00:59:03

I spend 75% of my time in Santa Clara County, having moved here from Long Island in 1989.

I have never read the San Jose Mercury News, except for a week when they delivered a free copy as part of a promotion. Wherever I am I read the NY Times and the WSJ.

I don’t think anyone here reads it for anything other than the Fry’s ads!

 
 
Comment by em3
2008-07-05 01:27:37

>> “They think every seller will give their house away, and they won’t.”

You’re not using the “Serious Inquiries Only” yard sign, Camille.

 
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