October 24, 2008

Riddled In Buyer’s Remorse

It’s Friday desk clearing time for this blogger. “Housing clearance rates remained soft across the country over the weekend, particularly in the nation’s biggest markets of Melbourne and Sydney, which showed no signs of recovering from their torpor. The Australian reported many homes continue to sell for well under what their owners had hoped to get. When Melbourne grandmother Jennifer Webbe put her home of 15 years on the market, she thought she would get $740,000 for her house in the city’s sought-after southern suburbs.”

“But reality came crashing down - in concert with the world’s financial markets - and Ms Webbe sold her McKinnon house on the weekend for about $100,000 less than she wanted, one week before her scheduled auction next Sunday. ‘Each week the market has got worse and worse,’ she said. ‘Last week when the stock market crashed, I wasn’t looking good. I felt my timing wasn’t great. I didn’t have a great number of people coming through the house.’”

“Although she didn’t get the price she wanted, Ms Webbe didn’t have to look far to find cautionary tales. Just a few doors down another house was auctioned yesterday. The 40-strong crowd remained silent and the house was passed in without anyone making a single bid.”

“Virginia Washington, a 64-year-old medical secretary from California, bought her retirement home in the town of Tolleson, Arizona, in 1996. ‘It was supposed to be my dream home, but it has turned out to be a nightmare,’ said Washington, who owes $207,000 on a house that is worth about $150,000.”

‘Washington is haunted by the fear of losing the $65,000 in savings she put down as her deposit. ‘Many people did not put any money down on a home and they feel free to walk away. But $65,000, there’s no money tree that grows that kind of money,’ she said.”

“Sisters Annette and Karlene Parker said they broke down when their lender told them last week it was foreclosing on the Miramar home they have shared since 2006. They had been paying $1,800 each month, but an interest rate adjustment raised their payment by almost $400. ‘It was just too much, with everything going on,’ said Annette Parker.”

“Karlene Parker said borrowers needed help hanging on to homes that were ‘overvalued in the first place.’ ‘I don’t think the government needs to pay off our house. They need to come reassess the value of the home and then lower our mortgage and . . . interest rate,’ said Parker.”

“Take a drive around the Hamptons and all the For Sale signs littering the landscaped lawns might suggest that the East End of Long Island is finally joining the rest of the country in a real estate slump. Gerald Madigan, a financial professional, put his five-bedroom East Hampton home on the market for $2 million last spring, when he purchased a house in nearby Water Mill. Late in the summer, he lowered the price to $1.75 million, but he plans to rent the property rather than accept a rock-bottom offer.”

“‘If I wanted to price it at a giveaway price, I could get rid of it,’ he said. ‘My intent right now is to ride it out.’”

“Oliver Fisk and his girlfriend have been hunting for a one-bedroom apartment in London over the last four years and they’re further away than ever from getting onto the property ladder. ‘We’re definitely holding out for a bit longer, especially with the things that are going on with the banks,’ the 28-year- old information-technology specialist said.”

“If the U.K. government’s 500 billion-pound package, presented Oct. 8, fails to revive mortgage-lending in time, Oliver Fisk and his partner may find themselves back where they were a year ago. ‘It got to the point we thought we had to get on the ladder and buy a pokey flat for a ridiculous multiple so we can start thinking about starting a family,’ he said.”

“Home builders hoped for good news from their top economist on Wednesday —- and got nothing. ‘Things are a lot worse than anyone anticipated,’ said David Seiders, chief economist for the National Association of Home Builders. ‘The key word is risk,’ he warned. ‘The momentum is still definitely downward.’”

“He offered chart after chart to back up his pessimism. By last September, the rate had crashed to just 530,000 permits. ‘The numbers go off the edge of the cliff,’ Seiders said. The decline is ‘world-class in terms of the degree of contraction and the speed of contraction.’”

“Once upon a time, the World Economic Forum was the ultimate Wall Street jamboree. Now, in the riptide of the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, WEF officials and delegates say many of the chief executive officers who gathered in Davos, Switzerland, over the last five years didn’t listen to warnings from their peers.”

“‘The partying crept in,’ says Klaus Schwab, the 70-year- old WEF founder and executive chairman. ‘We let it get out of control, and attention was taken away from the speed and complexity of how the world’s challenges built up.”’

“The fallout has left the WEF riddled in buyer’s remorse, with officials throughout the organization asking what they have wrought and, like Wall Street, whether they offered too much of a good thing. Schwab says the delegates treated him like ‘Cassandra’ whenever he questioned the logic of their wisdom on asset-price bubbles in housing, stocks and other financial instruments.”

“The moment the credit crisis claimed an entire country, even if it was Iceland, which is smaller than Canberra and I daresay colder, we were in trouble. Stone the krona, as one headline put it. What next? Well, there’s a recession in the US that could turn nasty and commodity prices are plunging.”

“But getting back to Iceland for a moment. Its banks collapsed because they borrowed too much from the rest of the world to lend on inflated housing prices and finished up owing more than the country’s GDP. Um, sound familiar?”

“U.S. lawmakers have accused major credit rating agencies of serious failures in how they assessed mortgage-backed securities and other investments. Executives of major firms, and former employees testified at a congressional hearing. Sean Egan, Managing Director of the Egan-Jones credit ranging agency, asserts that major credit agencies knowingly issued grossly inflated and possibly fraudulent ratings.”

“‘Issuers paid huge amounts to these rating companies for not just significant rating fees, but in many cases very significant consulting fees for advising the issuers on how to structure the bonds to achieve maximum AAA ratings. This egregious conflict of interest may be the single greatest cause of the present global economic crisis,’ he said.”

“Richard J. Rosen, a senior economist and economic adviser at the Chicago Federal Reserve: ‘Mortgage-backed securities had historically been a fairly safe investment offering a better return than even safer U.S. Treasury debt. With interest rates near historic lows from 2001 to 2004, investors around the world were trying to earn more on their investments. At the time, mortgage-backed securities, which had been heavily promoted abroad by the U.S. government, seemed like a fairly safe option.’”

“‘As global investors demanded more mortgage-backed securities, banks began looking for more mortgages to buy, repackage and resell. This was one of the reasons lending standards loosened. By the time it became clear that many home loans had gone to people who wouldn’t be able to repay them, the market had grown large enough to shake investors all over the world - from community banks in California to multi-billion-dollar banks in Germany.’”

“Facing a firing line of questions from Washington lawmakers, Alan Greenspan, the former Federal Reserve chairman once considered the infallible maestro of the financial system, admitted yesterday that he ‘made a mistake’ in trusting that free markets could regulate themselves without government oversight.”

“Greenspan, who stepped down in 2006, denied that the nation’s economic crisis was his fault but he conceded that the meltdown had revealed a flaw in a lifetime of economic thinking and left him in a ’state of shocked disbelief.’”

“Greenspan acknowledged under questioning that he had made a ‘mistake’ in believing that banks, operating in their own self-interest, would do what was necessary to protect their shareholders and institutions. Greenspan said, ‘I have found a flaw. I don’t know how significant or permanent it is. But I have been very distressed by that fact.’”

“Greenspan was asked to defend a variety of actions he took as Federal Reserve chairman — resisting recommendations to use the Fed’s powers to crack down on subprime mortgages, for one. And opposing efforts to impose regulations on derivatives.”

“As for firms that package mortgages into securities, he said, ‘As much as I would prefer it otherwise, in this financial environment I see no choice but to require that all securitizers retain a meaningful part of the securities they issue.’”

“He acknowledged that he had also been wrong in rejecting fears that the five-year housing boom was turning into an unsustainable speculative bubble that could harm the economy when it burst. Greenspan maintained during that period that home prices were unlikely to post a significant decline nationally because housing was a local market.”

“He said yesterday that he held to that belief because until the current housing slump there had never been such a significant decline in prices nationwide. He said the current financial crisis had ‘turned out to be much broader than anything that I could have imagined.’”

“Recessions come around at a pace of a little more than once a decade, and there is little that government can do or should try to do to prevent them. Recessions are as necessary to prosperity as are recoveries.”

“That might seem like a harsh thing to say. Recessions extract their own degree of pain. The reality is, however, that they are medicine required to purge the economy of excesses and to lay the groundwork for future robust growth.”

“The excesses go way beyond subprime housing. At all levels and in all ways, the U.S. economy is built on borrowing and consuming. American households are $14 trillion in debt, up from $680 billion in 1974. The U.S. government is nearly $10 trillion in debt, up from $5.7 trillion at the beginning of the Bush presidency.”

“The question isn’t whether the nation is going to pay for all the years of excess, but how. Not only do home prices need to bottom out, but America needs to focus more on investing and producing, and less on borrowing and consuming. That won’t be easy. There is, however, one tool for accomplishing this, and it’s called a recession.”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2008-10-24 16:03:18

Sorry about the server problems today. I blame it on all those New Yorkers that came to visit.

What a great week. My thanks to those who support this blog. Please check back this weekend.

And here is a link to the radio interview I did this morning. Click on “Listen.”

Comment by Professor Bear
2008-10-24 16:12:29

“… New Yorkers that came to visit.”

Lots of angry trolls in that town…

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-10-24 16:45:58

Here the link to the 2005 Open Source show BL mentioned a couple of times.

 
 
Comment by Lost in Utah
2008-10-24 16:37:05

Wow, Ben, NICE JOB!!! You rock!!!

Wahooo!!! Ben’s da man!!!

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-10-24 19:22:01

It’s so funny to hear someone’s voice for the first time!

But you’ve given a voice to the voiceless on what is perhaps the biggest story/issue of our time.

Comment by exeter
2008-10-25 10:10:23

“But you’ve given a voice to the voiceless on what is perhaps the biggest story/issue of our time.”

Bingo. The HBB has been and is a light in the darkness.

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2008-10-25 03:57:11

Nice job Ben!

“Japan made the same mistakes…..and they got a 17 year recession out of it.”

 
Comment by Will
2008-10-25 05:29:31

Very nice job Ben. Congratulations

Comment by CA renter
2008-10-26 02:23:29

Awesome job, Ben! You hit the nail on the head…there is no “foreclosure crisis,” this is the resolution to the “affordability crisis” during the bubble (funny how they don’t mention that “crisis” anymore).

Thank you for all your effort on this blog and getting the word out! :)

 
 
 
Comment by San Diego RE Bear
2008-10-24 16:04:47

Hey Ben - when did you move to California and why didn’t you tell any of us? :D

For more on where that came from listen to Ben on the radio:

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2008/10/24/segments/113542

After listening to the voice of reason, read through the comments some of which feel like 2006. ;)

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-10-24 16:13:45

I don’t know where they go the CA thing. I think it was because of the time difference. It was hard trying to bounce around complex stuff at 7:30 AM. I’ve never done a radio show that wasn’t in the afternoon.

BTW, if anyone is having problems loading parts of this blog, please send me an email with details. We’re trying to figure it out.

Comment by Bronco
2008-10-24 16:21:15

I hear you; it’s no fun having that kind of discussion so early in the morning. Great job, by the way!

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-10-24 16:22:37

Thanks, it was a lot of fun actually.

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Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-10-24 16:25:27

OMG, that’s awesome!

Ben, you’ve stirred the hornet’s nest. We’re gonna get some trolls here after all.

Finally!!!

*Drooooooooooooooooool*

Comment by Ben Jones
2008-10-24 16:29:34

I would have liked to get into why markets break down at different times, but time goes quickly. Are NYC prices out of whack with incomes and rents? That’s all you need to know.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2008-10-24 16:52:47

They’re out of whack with rents, and now they are even more seriously out of whack with incomes.

And these people were counting on that income for 30 years?

It was a credit bubble, folks, a credit bubble.

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

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Comment by Lost in Utah
2008-10-24 17:09:53

Ben was SMART. He agreed when the guy said housingbubbleblog dot com, left off the “the” - he knows he doesn’t need a gazillion trolls on board. The ones really interested will find it.

 
 
Comment by Cassandra
2008-10-25 08:16:14

When you live in NYC California and Arizona are the same place.

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2008-10-24 16:08:49

“Karlene Parker said borrowers needed help hanging on to homes that were ‘overvalued in the first place.’ ‘I don’t think the government needs to pay off our house. They need to come reassess the value of the home and then lower our mortgage and . . . interest rate,’ said Parker.”

Or the government could just butt out, since its easy-money policies and social engineering helped create the housing bubble in the first place. Let fools who bought at the peak of the market take their lumps. If they get foreclosed on, too bad - maybe some wiser, more creditworthy young couple or family can get a sweet deal on a starter home.

Comment by Tim
2008-10-24 16:37:25

Well at least she admitted that she wouldnt go as far to say that the government should pay off her entire mortgage completely, all she is saying is that the goverment should pay her the difference between the current FMV and the outstanding mortgage amount from time to time. Oh, and to give her break on the agreed up interest rate as well. Sounds reasonable to me.

Comment by pdxHOMEDEBTOR/ocLANDRENTER
2008-10-24 18:57:09

“all she is saying is that the goverment should pay her the difference between the current FMV and the outstanding mortgage amount from time to time. Oh, and to give her break on the agreed up interest rate as well. Sounds reasonable to me.”

Excuse me, it doesn’t sound reasonable to me. I have to pay my mortgage, and if I were in charge, these houses would be going to the auction block with no reserve sold for whatever they bring. But eventually the US government is going to warehouse millions of homes to be brought to market in an slow, RTC-like orderly fashion over a period of many years; maybe they could help out on the section 8 problem and ship people out to the exurbs and give em food stamps and welfare.

FBs should not be given anything, not even a mouthful of popcorn. I would happily contribute my share of hiring more prosecutors to get felony convictions against any one who commited fraud on the application.

PDXhomedebtor

Comment by diogenes (Tampa,Fl)
2008-10-25 05:50:43

I’m with you.
Where did the concept of welfare for stupid people come from here?
Why should the govt. pay anything to anyone to help with their housing costs??
I can’t take much more of this socialist/marxist ideology.
I guess it started with Roosevelt, got really going well under Johnson’s Great Society, and helped along by endless robbery and social engineering programs like Bush’s No Child left without govt. support and Federal meddling.

My greatest fear is Obama. How did an EEOC alien get to run for president?? If he gets in with Pelosi and Boxer, are country is doomed.

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Comment by max4me
2008-10-25 07:45:51

“Where did the concept of welfare for stupid people come from here?”

There are more poor people than rich people. If they are starving they will try to steal from the rich people, thus its in the rich peoples best interest to keep that from happening

 
Comment by exeter
2008-10-25 10:38:16

And the rich acquired their money legally? Give it a break.

 
Comment by CA renter
2008-10-26 02:28:09

I’m pretty far left, financially-speaking, but even I think bailouts for idiots is very wrong-headed.

Those who are truly disabled or going through rough times, not of their choosing, should get some help, IMHO. Gamblers and fools should NOT get public help.

This is not a Dem or Repub issue, it’s just common sense. Flippers, speculators (including those who thought rising prices would bail them out of poor decisions) should be given the GIFT of a non-recourse foreclosure IF they didn’t take cash out (an exception can be made for medical expenses, IMHO).

 
 
Comment by Dale
2008-10-25 06:43:19

“Have you completely lost your ability to recognize sarcasm?”

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Comment by hd74man
2008-10-25 07:20:10

RE: maybe they could help out on the section 8 problem and ship people out to the exurbs and give em food stamps and welfare.

You think this idea far-fetched?

Fits into the Barney Frank/Obama Boy redistributionist doctrine like a T.

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Comment by snake charmer
2008-10-25 08:28:49

We’ve had a long period of deliberate redistribution upwards. When someone says that needs to stop, that it’s destroyed our economy and poses a risk to our democracy, people react like they’ve entered a time warp back to the 1950s. The socialism we need to be worried about is the corporate kind.

 
 
Comment by gather no moss
2008-10-25 08:26:53

Maybe the debtors should have to do community service work on the weekends or something if they want to renegotiate their mortgage with the government. There will have to be a lot of cutbacks to pay for all these people’s mistakes.

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Comment by wmbz
2008-10-25 02:52:17

You can not be serious… comrade.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2008-10-24 16:10:08

Housing: More Doom & Gloom Ahead
10/24/2008

Home sales ticked up in September while prices fell, but a housing bottom, which will be bad, is still a long way off, says Ken Rosen, a real estate economist. Stacey Delo reports. (Oct. 24)

“…so that the shoe that’s dropping right now, in the last three weeks, is home sales have stopped, because people are scared. The fear was because of the volatility of stock markets…”

Comment by Professor Bear
2008-10-24 18:30:57

Sounds like the housing market might be facing one of FPSS’s price formation issues, as would-be home sellers get to face the same terrifying experience as stock trading specialists do when there are no bids. Of course, it may be possible for the govt-controlled GSEs or the FHA to provide loans to a few knifecatchers, in order to avoid the appearance that the housing market has not entirely shut down.

Comment by pdxHOMEDEBTOR/ocLANDRENTER
2008-10-24 19:09:38

“it may be possible for the govt-controlled GSEs or the FHA to provide loans to a few knifecatchers, in order to avoid the appearance that the housing market has not entirely shut down.”

Exactly Professor. The US govn’t monopoly on the printing press allows them power now…until the day they can’t peddle their worthless paper any more, either current dollars or noncurrent IOUs. We’re in the final days of cheap precious metals and oil and I plan to continue to buy up as much as I can before the Federal Reserve topples over just like the Soviet Union. Of course the timing is anyone’s guess, just as the events from Aug 2007-present were known in advance by most of us HBBers, just not exactly when they were going to play out.

PortlandHomedebtor

Comment by 45north
2008-10-24 20:20:37

pdxHOMEDEBTOR/ocLANDRENTER - from your name I guess that you own a house in Portland, Oregon and are now renting a house in Orange County, California?

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Comment by skitzo
2008-10-24 16:39:23

‘I don’t think the government needs to pay off our house. They need to come reassess the value of the home and then lower our mortgage and . . . interest rate,’ said Parker.

—-

‘I don’t think the government needs to pay off my car. They need to come reassess the value of the car and then lower my payments and . . . interest rate,’ said skitzo

OR

‘I don’t think the government needs to pay off my credit cards. They need to come reassess the value of the shit I bought and then lower my payments and . . . interest rate,’ said skitzo

Comment by vozworth
2008-10-24 19:33:12

folks.

this is real, its not a joke.

If you are in debt, either walk or pay it…..thats the reality.

welcome to the hard landing.

ITs a blizzard of debt.

Comment by CrookCounty
2008-10-25 05:59:18

All these people walking or threatening to default is HUMONGOUS upside pressure on risk interest rates. It’s the raison d’etre for credit markets freezing. Who wants to lend, or let banks lend your money, in such an environment?

 
 
 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2008-10-24 16:44:16

“‘If I wanted to price it at a giveaway price, I could get rid of it,’ he said. ‘My intent right now is to ride it out.’”

That’s a good strategy, Gerald. Ride out the 15% off sale…
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and then sell it for another 30% off two years from now. Until then, enjoy the stress!

Comment by sf jack
2008-10-24 17:51:21

Or another 5% to 10% more off another three years after that - what a clown.

Notice that Gerald is a “financial professional.”

Comment by mikey
2008-10-25 04:48:44

Casino American MoneyPit is still open and functioning Gerald…BET the house and let it RIDE :)

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2008-10-24 19:27:06

I’m tellin’ ya - the duration, and not the depth - of this price decline is what will crush the FBs. They are absolutely pinning all their hopes on a quick “V”-shaped recovery in housing prices. Call Gerald up in five years and see how he’s riding it out.

Comment by CA renter
2008-10-26 02:31:59

Exactly right, john. This will be a very long recession/depression, IMHO, especially if the govt refuses to get out of the way and let things correct quickly. They will make things much worse by extending the downturn for many years (decades??) to come.

 
 
 
Comment by Skroodle
2008-10-24 19:27:49

“Virginia Washington, a 64-year-old medical secretary from California, bought her retirement home in the town of Tolleson, Arizona, in 1996. ‘It was supposed to be my dream home, but it has turned out to be a nightmare,’ said Washington, who owes $207,000 on a house that is worth about $150,000.”

‘Washington is haunted by the fear of losing the $65,000 in savings she put down as her deposit. ‘Many people did not put any money down on a home and they feel free to walk away. But $65,000, there’s no money tree that grows that kind of money,’ she said.”

Why is there not any information in that article on how a women who bought a house in 1996 could owe $207k on it 12 years later after having put down $65k?? Are they afraid if we find out she refinanced and took $200k out of the house that we would have no sympathy for her? Bad bad reporting.

Comment by FP
2008-10-24 22:12:00

Why is it a nightmare? It’s a dreams house. She said it herself. Now she does not want to pay her dream house off because maybe… she wants a handout?

 
Comment by diogenes (Tampa,Fl)
2008-10-25 05:55:41

My thoughts exactly. She obviously stripped out all the equity and SPENT IT!!
Boo Hoo. It’s time to pay back the LOAN, dear.
But, no, this, and many other reporters keep feeding the sympathy for the debtors stories……….no matter how they got into the debt-trap.

Bring back debtor prisons!! Let’s make people pay back the money they owe! Well, maybe not prison, but let’s, at least, confiscate the property and auction it off.
Oh? That’s a foreclosure, isn’t it?

 
Comment by motorcityjim
2008-10-25 07:18:50

If this is her “dream house” and her “retirement house” why the hell is she trying to sell it? Live in it and be happy! It’s your dream house!!

She is a liar. She wanted it to be a cash cow that she unloaded on some other sucker.

Comment by max4me
2008-10-25 09:20:36

I think she used the house to finance her retirement

 
 
 
Comment by James
2008-10-24 21:10:33

What is really great is that all those forclosure houses are vacant houses. So, the sales of the forclosure homes means another house/apartment opens up and no move up buyers are created.

Should be downward pressure on rents and further pressure on prices.

Just waiting for LA Southbay to come unglued as their are no move up buyers for a long long time.

Can see more people moving out of LA and more of the illegals going as well. Should just keep downward pressure on everything.

Noticing everything is less busy these days. Cept me. Saving away.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2008-10-24 23:09:18

‘Washington is haunted by the fear of losing the $65,000 in savings she put down as her deposit. ‘Many people did not put any money down on a home and they feel free to walk away. But $65,000, there’s no money tree that grows that kind of money,’ she said.”

Here is a lesson for the financially prudent: Don’t buy a home with a downpayment until the housing market has clearly reached a bottom. Otherwise you will compete with knifecatchers armed with no-down or low-down govt sponsored loans who have much less than you to lose by walking away in a few years after home prices fall by ‘more than expected.’

 
Comment by IMOUTAHERE
2008-10-25 06:14:13

“Greenspan, who stepped down in 2006, denied that the nation’s economic crisis was his fault but he conceded that the meltdown had revealed a flaw in a lifetime of economic thinking and left him in a ’state of shocked disbelief.’”

Well I’m shocked you’re shocked.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw-Xgpulf64

Comment by Skwee
2008-10-25 09:26:10

Greenspan lost his chance here to gain back a modicum of respect from me. When asked “was this your fault”, he should have looked straight into the camera and said “yes”. If you aren’t even going to take responsibility for your bad decisions I don’t care to hear anything you have to say, old fart.

 
 
Comment by skb
2008-10-25 06:48:59

I am very frustrated, there have been some sales in my zip 33470. The home that I had been eyeing sold it went for 250K. The home had sold for 405,000 in 2005.
It was a bank foreclosure, a beautiful home 2240 under air, 1.3 acres, Loxahatchee florida. I know the a/c units had been removed that as far as I know was the only damage.

I am sitting and watching and wondering 111.60 per square foot under air, or 76.92 per total construction square foot, is still knife catching in this zip?

Someone help me out here, I am needing to either buy now or re-sign my lease next month. If I found a similar home and purchased it for 250K am I being stupid?
Please someone either slap me with a trout and tell me to go back to my lurking position or tell me that this price is reasonable and go ahead and jump.
Here is the house:

Pre bubble, what should I have been looking to spend for a home like this: http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/birds-eye-view-map/67164759_zpid#birds-eye-view

Comment by LongIslandLost
2008-10-25 07:11:49

I don’t know about Florida real estate. I don’t know much about trout.

But, here are a few questions/ideas:
1. Is leasing less expensive than buying?
2. What other pressures do you have (spouse)? Phrased differently, compare the cost of divorce with the cost of buying.
3. Do you _really_ want to stay in the area? If you lose your job, will you need to move? Will you need to move for a better job?

I wouldn’t buy … the pressure to buy is going down here on Long Island. But, your local market is different.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2008-10-25 07:32:12

“‘Issuers paid huge amounts to these rating companies for not just significant rating fees, but in many cases very significant consulting fees for advising the issuers on how to structure the bonds to achieve maximum AAA ratings. This egregious conflict of interest may be the single greatest cause of the present global economic crisis,’ he said.”

Who’d've thunk that three oligopoly credit rating agencies looking over each other’s shoulders would come up with anything other than perfectly unbiased estimates of the credit worthiness of the firms they rated?

The Wisdom of Crowds (James Surowecki) discusses at length how a large number of independent opinions leads to an accurate median opinion. The median view of three rating agencies, all of which were heavily encumbered by conflicts of interest, could not possibly achieve the unbiased outcome represented by the median view within a crowd. One could have done much better by referring to the median rating of a large number of anonymous blog posters.

 
Comment by Ann gogh
2008-10-25 08:19:10

What day is it? what time is it? how much do I weigh?

 
Comment by hampsteadgirl
2008-10-26 12:10:46

where are interest rates gonna go?

 
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