Anything That Could Go Wrong Did Go Wrong
The Gazette Times reports from Oregon. “After a months-long struggle to move through the city’s planning department and overcome objections by wetlands advocates, Ashwood Preserve is up for sale. The 9.52-acre parcel, which became a test case for a provision which allows a land owner to build on property even if it is mostly covered by natural features, has been stymied by a building industry that was quiet all year. It’s representative of the plight of Corvallis builders, who never really got off the ground in 2008.”
“Residential building ground almost to a halt in 2008. Just 44 permits for new residential building have been issued this year, half the number approved in 2007. At the end of last year, Legend Homes in Corvallis was upbeat about its prospects here. In June, the company filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection when creditors came calling.”
“The Oregon company’s Corvallis projects — Stoneybrook and Willamette Landing, both offering new homes priced between $250,000 and $400,000 — had been largely completed before the troubles in the housing market. Another project brokered by Legend, Witham Oaks, remains in the same limbo that stalled Ashwood Preserve.”
“John Faulconer, a mid-valley builder for 10 years, hung up his tool belt this year and now sells existing real estate full time. ‘I just sold my own home for $550,000,’ he said. ‘A year and a half ago I could have gotten $750,000. It makes me sick.’”
The Oregonian. “State regulators are investigating a Bend firm that recently filed for bankruptcy after its owners used millions of customer dollars to fund their own business ventures, allegedly without permission. Summit 1031 Exchange’s owners said this week that they were short more than half of the $27.8 million in cash it owed to clients. The company said its problems are a result of loans it made during the real estate boom to Inland Capital Corp., a company owned by the same people who own and run Summit. Inland Capital Corp. then lent the money to other individuals and companies.”
“‘This is just horrible,’ said John Tennant, a Portland landowner whose family is owed $1 million. ‘We’ve hired an attorney, and we’ll be filing a lawsuit.’”
“Summit specialized in 1031 tax-deferred exchanges, a type of real estate investment that allows investors to defer paying federal taxes on gains from property sales. The largely unregulated exchanges are tax-deferred as long as sellers quickly reinvest their proceeds in similar properties.”
“Danae Miller of Bend said she turned to Summit looking to trade her 34-acre cattle farm near Bend for something larger. Summit now owes her $750,000. ‘I don’t know how in our lifetime we could ever recoup that money,’ she said.”
“News of what happened has surprised investors and business partners who said that Summit’s principals had strong reputations in the field and community. ‘They were very well regarded,’ said Dave Chambers, an accountant in Lake Oswego who ran Summit’s local office. ‘These guys in Bend got really good at this. These guys got too successful.’”
“Bend tied Atlantic City as the most overvalued market in the country in a report from research firm IHS Global Insight and National City Corp. Longview, Wash., had the fifth most overvalued market, Portland sixth, Eugene 10th, Salem 14th, Medford 21st. The firm bases the overvalued rankings on interest rates, household incomes, population densities and historic price trends.”
“The report provides further evidence that the housing crisis — after rolling through Sun Belt and Rust Belt states - — is clobbering Northwest markets the worst.”
“A South Waterfront condo once owned by a former U.S. Bank fraud investigator now doing time for embezzlement has resold for a discount of about 40 percent. David A. Shelofsky bought the 18th floor condo in June 2006 for $1.6 million. The condo went into foreclosure, and principal broker Philip Higgins listed it for $979,900 for the bank. He says it’s now under contract for a little less than the list price.”
“Shelofsky pleaded guilty in October 2006 to pocketing $1.5 million of the money he recovered from people accused of defrauding U.S. Bank. An accountant found that $583,000 of embezzled money went to properties Shelofsky purchased, including this condo. Shelofsky was sentenced to 37 months in federal prison last March.”
“Established Oregon economists scoffed a year ago when a younger colleague with a relatively new crystal ball declared: ‘A recession is likely imminent.’ As it turns out, University of Oregon economist Tim Duy, and his index of economic indicators, was closer to the target than even he imagined. Construction crashed, following the burst of the nation’s speculative housing bubble. Related sectors, such as wood products, manufacturing and the financial industry, also plunged. Foreclosures increased.”
“‘Anything that could go wrong did go wrong,’ Duy said this past week.”
“Eugenio Aleman, Wells Fargo & Co. senior economist, says federal monetary policy — injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy through the financial sector — is not helping those who need it the most. ‘It will not help those who are struggling to make ends meet, or have lost their jobs or who may soon lose them,’ Aleman said, ‘because no financial institution is going to lend them money to buy a home, no matter what the interest rate is.’”
The Peninsula Daily News from Washington. “Jefferson County’s assessor expects to hear some noise when his office sends out property tax assessment revaluation notices next August for the city of Port Townsend, just as he did after assessments for Chimacum and Port Ludlow came out earlier this year. The Port Townsend notices, which will be for 2010 taxes, will show average increases of 20 percent to 25 percent, Jack Westerman III said.”
“‘They’re going to say ‘Jack, you are out of your mind,’ said Westerman, who at 30 years in elected office is the state’s longest-standing county assessor.”
“The countywide taxable value has more than doubled since 1997 to 4.7 billion in 2007, Westerman said, with about half of that being new construction. ‘Port Ludlow is an area that has more turnover with so many retirees,’ Westerman explained.”
“Then there was the spike in Port Ludlow residential construction during 2005-2006 that glutted the market. ‘My biggest problem right now for me is the areas in Port Ludlow,’ he said.”
“This year, Westerman’s office put together data for the Port Townsend revaluation cycle. The cycle is from January 2005 to January 2009. ‘If you bought at the peak of the market in late ‘06 your value hasn’t done much but go down 15 percent,’ he said.”
“That, however, followed two years that each had 20 percent market-value increases in Port Townsend, he said.”
“Westerman points out that although Port Townsend-area homes sales have dramatically slowed since 2006, prices have not necessarily declined at the same pace. In fact, he said, many are selling for more than their 2005 assessed value. For example, Westerman said, an uptown Port Townsend home with a county assessed value of $290,000 in 2005 recently sold for $615,000.”
“Westerman produced documentation that shows his office’s assessed values from July 11, 2008, to mid-September were under sale prices by as much as 35 percent at the low end, and by 99.2 percent at most for the Port Townsend School District revaluation area, which includes Cape George, Kala Point, Discovery Bay and the West End. ‘There are fewer transactions to make decisions on, which makes it a little more difficult for anyone involved . . . It’s a tough time to figure out your fair market value,’ Westerman said.”
The Seattle Times from Washington. “Summing up the 2008 housing market, Glenn Crellin, was succinct: ‘Challenging at best,’ said the director of the Washington Center for Real Estate Research at Washington State University. ‘We clearly have a situation where consumers have exited the market, rightly or wrongly, on the presumption that housing prices are going to fall precipitously and they’ll be able to get tremendous bargains if they wait.’”
“As 2007 ended, Mike Scott, of Dupre + Scott Apartment Advisors, said renters should see rents rise and stiffer competition for apartments. The reasons: Tight mortgage lending was keeping many renters from becoming homeowners. Plus, many would-be buyers were taking a wait-and-see attitude toward home prices.”
“Well, some of that happened. Central Puget Sound rents climbed 7 percent in the past year, Scott said. Going forward, it would seem like the same factors Scott cited for this year would be in play again for 2009. But the apartment situation has changed considerably. For 2009 and 2010, Scott expects that vacancies will grow, but rents won’t.”
“However, the economy is deteriorating so rapidly that it’s hard to say exactly what that means. In September, Scott forecast that vacancies would reach almost 6 percent by early 2010. Then this month, he revised that upward to 7.3 percent.”
“Job losses decrease apartment demand because renters double up — one reason vacancies are expected to climb. The other big one is an increase in apartment construction. Scott says 2,620 units opened this year in 20-unit or larger buildings in King, Pierce and Snohomish counties. That’s about 500 more than had been predicted.”
“Currently, 8,900 units are under construction. Additionally, some buildings planned as condominiums may become apartments instead, and some apartments formerly converted to condos are being reconverted into apartments.”
The Seattle PI from Washington. “No surprise: Many Seattle-area real estate experts say the market slowdown was the biggest local real estate story of 2008. But there’s a lot less agreement about what to expect from 2009.”
“The median house price actually topped out at $481,000 in King County in July 2007 and $501,000 in Seattle in August. Last month, the medians were $415,000 in Seattle and $395,000 countywide, down 17.2 percent and 17.9 percent, respectively, from their peaks.”
“Spencer Rascoff, chief financial officer at Zillow, the Seattle-based online real estate site, said that given that nearly 14 percent of area homes have mortgages for more than they’re worth, massive job losses would bring another wave of foreclosures, stalling any recovery.”
“Unemployment was higher in 2002, but the housing market was strong then because people felt comfortable buying, said Bruce Williams, CEO of HomeStreet Bank. ‘Until people have confidence the economy is not in free fall, home sales will be down,’ he said.”
“Sean Hyatt, managing director of the Bellevue office of national apartment developer Trammell Crow Residential, focused on the mayhem itself. ‘The fact that this downturn is so multifaceted, with bad news coming from every angle, which in turn is leading us into one of the deepest recessions on record, is the most significant story,’ he said. ‘The failure of WaMu, the disappearance of the condo market, the commercial markets grinding to a halt, how quickly Seattle proved it wasn’t immune, again, and caught up with the national recession, and all the other negative events are just symptoms.’”
“The real shock came in August 2007, when mortgage lenders significantly tightened their standards. Declines in prices and sales continued into this year. The area showed signs of possible stabilization this summer, with pending sales actually up from a year earlier in September. But nationwide economic turmoil upended that, and pending sales dropped in November by more than 30 percent from a year earlier.”
“September’s turmoil, of course, included federal regulators seizing Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. and selling its branches, deposits and loans to New York-based JPMorgan Chase — the largest bank failure in U.S. history.”
“That was the biggest real estate story of the year, according to Richard Hagar, a Mercer Island appraiser who teaches anti-fraud classes and has been warning that lenders, including Washington Mutual, failed to ensure they made good loans. ‘They are the poster child of what is happening at many banks,’ Hagar said. ‘And all of the problems at WaMu are still going on right now today.’”
The New York Times. “As a supervisor at a Washington Mutual mortgage processing center, John D. Parsons was accustomed to seeing baby sitters claiming salaries worthy of college presidents, and schoolteachers with incomes rivaling stockbrokers’. He rarely questioned them. A real estate frenzy was under way and WaMu, as his bank was known, was all about saying yes.”
“Yet even by WaMu’s relaxed standards, one mortgage four years ago raised eyebrows. The borrower was claiming a six-figure income and an unusual profession: mariachi singer.”
“Parsons could not verify the singer’s income, so he had him photographed in front of his home dressed in his mariachi outfit. The photo went into a WaMu file. Approved. ‘I’d lie if I said every piece of documentation was properly signed and dated,’ said Parsons, speaking through wire-reinforced glass at a California prison near here, where he is serving 16 months for theft after his fourth arrest — all involving drugs.”
“While Parsons, whose incarceration is not related to his work for WaMu, oversaw a team screening mortgage applications, he was snorting methamphetamine daily, he said. ‘In our world, it was tolerated,’ said Sherri Zaback, who worked for Parsons and recalls seeing drug paraphernalia on his desk. ‘Everybody said, ‘He gets the job done.’”
“‘”It was the Wild West,’ said Steven M. Knobel, a founder of an appraisal company that did business with WaMu until 2007. ‘If you were alive, they would give you a loan. Actually, I think if you were dead, they would still give you a loan.’”
“The ultimate supervisor at WaMu was Kerry K. Killinger, who joined the company in 1983 and became chief executive in 1990. An investment analyst by training, he was attuned to Wall Street’s hunger for growth. Between late 1996 and early 2002, he transformed WaMu into the nation’s sixth-largest bank through a series of acquisitions.”
“A key deal came in 1999, with the purchase of Long Beach Financial, a California lender specializing in subprime mortgages, loans extended to borrowers with troubled credit. WaMu underscored its eagerness to lend with an advertising campaign introduced during the 2003 Academy Awards: ‘The Power of Yes.’ No mere advertising pitch, this was also the mantra inside the bank, underwriters said.”
“‘WaMu came out with that slogan, and that was what we had to live by,’ Zaback said. ‘We joked about it a lot.’ A file would get marked problematic and then somehow get approved. ‘We’d say: ‘OK! The power of yes.’”
Test…
You passed scdave
Funny girl…:)
‘prices have not necessarily declined at the same pace. In fact, he said, many are selling for more than their 2005 assessed value. For example, Westerman said, an uptown Port Townsend home with a county assessed value of $290,000 in 2005 recently sold for $615,000.’
These guys don’t get it. What they point to as relative strength is actually weakness. This is likely a future walk-away/foreclosure on the $600k house.
These types of sales are the REIC’s last line of defense, irrespective of how few of them actually ocurr. Even as recently as mid-November local FB’ers are led to their impoverished doom.
Anyway, look for that assessment to rise rapidly as the county probably finds itself in deep doo-doo. I wonder if the 2005 assessments were even theoretically at 100% of market value?
We sold our home in Port Townsend a few months ago. Believe me, prices ARE NOT rising there. We had to sell our two year old home for a loss and were very lucky that it sold. Many homes have been on the market for more than a year.
The uptown area has a lot of beautiful Victorian homes. Many people buy ones that are run down and completely restore them from the foundation up. That could explain the $290,000 to $615,000 price jump. It’s a ridiculous example.
“Jefferson County’s assessor expects to hear some noise when his office sends out property tax assessment revaluation notices next August…
They’re going to say ‘Jack, you are out of your mind,’ said Westerman, who at 30 years in elected office is the state’s longest-standing county assessor.”
Or maybe they will say:
“Go Jack. Cough in your hat.”
Bend tied Atlantic City as the most overvalued market in the country ??
I have some friends that hung it up here in Silicon Valley and headed to Bend…They never looked back…I never have quite understood even though I understand it is beautiful why it is so expensive…I think I am going to head up there this summer and see what the big deal is…
Sales appear to have collapsed in Bend and surrounding areas. My SIL is a resident there and she caught on that we are considering relocating near Bend. Every time she asks when we’re moving, we tell her we’re waiting on housing prices to drop another $100k. Dead silence on the phone.
“Sales appear to have collapsed in Bend and surrounding areas.”
You’re observation is correct!
We know some people who were in a smallish Bend place, early on. The bubble arrived, and they got greedy. They sold their small place, and bought a huge place in Redmond to the north about 20-minutes. Rather than use the gains for a big down payment, they bought a pickup truck for him, and a turbo Volvo for her, both financed of course. Then it was time for a vacation in Hawaii to celebrate their investor smarts. The kool Aid was strong.
Advance three years: The mortgage reset arrived, and the sh!t hit the fan when he was laid-off from a window company in the area. Long story short: No more Redmond place, no more pickup truck, and someone else is plumbing her depths while a bitter divorce progresses slowly.
Dave,
Lots of Californians up there bidding up prices, especially retirees — I think that’s why. I visited Bend last summer and really liked it (it is indeed beautiful and conducive to outdoor activity), but it’s fairly remote — tough to get anywhere from there, IMO.
MG
Yes I know the money from cali retirees has helped drive the market there but what about the winters…Older people do not like the cold..
Bend is a lot like Eureka, California. Lots of retirees and people are still buying. The wife and I went to an open house in a decent neighborhood. However, the house was all original from 1971, complete with stained shag carpet, water spots on the ceiling, a tar roof badly needing repair, and the overwhelming smell of mold/mildew upon entry. We thought even though people here are very bullish about real estate, there is no way someone would pay $350,000 for something needing so much repairs. I was wrong. A couple of days after the open house–”Sale Pending.”
Sounds like they are still smokin’ a lot of the local product up there. But no worries… reality has a way of reasserting itself, even through the purple haze of REIC-frenzied, pot smoking “rich” CA Boomers.
I disagree that people are still buying. Less than 50 sales are likely to occur this month, and there were 68 last month. Compare that to the bubble times when there were over 300 sold in a month. Medians are falling through the floor. It looks like this month’s median will be around $242k, 28% below last December and 10% below this November. We have had more notices of default than sales for 4 of the last 5 months, and this month it will probably be close to double. The foreclosure problem has barely started here (we are about 12-18 months behind Cali) so NEXT year is when it’s really going to hit the fan.
At this point I can’t see how we would have medians above $170k at this time next year, and they could drop to below $150k in spring 2010. The high was a median of $378k.
People think it’s bad here now, but with the number of homes set to foreclose in the next 5 months, 2009 will be much worse.
As it is there are already some homes that were first listed at $850k that are now down to $350k. The first list price was absolutely out of line, but it shows the greed that was rampant here. Another that started out at $1.25m sold for $500k at the end of September, and will probably be worth $325k at this time next year.
Did I mention 9.9% unemployment?
To give you an idea how bad 50 sales in a month are, there are 1,957 properties listed on Realtor.com for Bend.
The most expensive house sold in December in Bend was $599k. There are 547 houses priced at $600k or more in Bend on Realtor.com
“A year and half ago I could have gotten $750,000. It makes me sick”
Me too. Look dude, you had the wind at your back for the greatest decade in developer history and you’re crying over a lousy 200k? Chump change for a big hitter like yourself, no? Oh and good luck in that “new” career as a UHS. Yeah, that’ll be much better.
What is most sickening is the fact that you would have sold that home to someone and they would have overpaid by hundreds of thousands of dollars and you feel badly that this didn’t happen.
When did you sell your soul to the devil anyways?
How can you feel sick, can you imagine now sick people are feeling that did over pay?
You are a crummy slim-ball.
The largely unregulated exchanges are tax-deferred as long as sellers quickly reinvest their proceeds in similar properties.”
What proceeds? I thought the whole idea of a 1031 exchange was that you exchanged actual properties and deferred cap gains. Guess I’ll have to catch up.
I’d like to give these operators the benefit of the doubt but more and more it’s looking like they set up their own ponzi with deals being contingent on -other- deals etc…
In a way I’d just as soon not have -more- of this smut lodged in my head but sadly it’s my business to understand just how this all went so terribly wrong. We’ll hopefully learn more about the details before… there’s another round of “unexplained” Bend suicides.
that you exchanged actual properties ??
No Montana…It is more complicated than that…I won’t go into a rendition because it will just take to long to read….Let me try to sum it up briefly…Almost all exchanges include a third party “Intermediary” that serves the purpose of both holding the money and executing final documents to facilitate the exchange…The IRS rules are quite strict in the proper execution of a exchange or they can claim it as a sale…Quite frankly it is the scariest part of completing an exchange…Handing over all your cash to some third party…
scdave,
I went back to the original article and it explained that they were holding the cash ( typically ) for 180 days. Now here’s my thinking on the matter, if they were using client assets without their knowledge or consent to fund their OWN plays, they’ve got real problems!
If they’ve gone beyond a custodial role ( and I can’t see how it would be otherwise ) I’d be hammering ‘em. Think about it, you went to them as “accomodators” and they’re “playing the float” with YOUR cash!? I just can’t see how that’s “standard”. Especially when it’s loaned to an entity they substantially control. More unregulated drivel.
DinOR…Your exactly right…The funds must be held in a “Trust” account that is completely liquid…It can earn interest but it must be imeadiatly available…I think your assumption would be correct in that they were playing a “Float” and lost the money…As far as holding for 180 days, that is the maximum time the IRS allows you “from your closing” to taking title of your up-leg exchange…Lots of other nuances also…
scdave,
Thanks for the leg work. The most exposure “I” have had to 1031’s is studying for my CFP exam. Granted, you’re right, very complicated. It’s just insane to imagine there wouldn’t be those out there willing to exploit people just looking for a little guidance?
I can hear the sales pitch now…
“Sure, you can keep your money in some low yield trust account BUT… what would you say if I could show you a way to get a great return while it would otherwise just be sitting there!?”
And… down the dark alley we go!
To simplify greatly, the 1031 Exchange Intermediary acts as a escrow; party A sells, and leaves the money with the intermediary for up to 180 days, then buys a comparable property and has the 1031 hand over the cash.
One of the ways the 1031’s make money is off the float; if you sell for a million and buy a place 120 days later for $1M, they have use of the money for that time. Any reasonable person would stuff it into an ultra-safe and liquid money market fund. The guys at Summit were making real estate development loans with the money, which is notoriously risky and not very liquid. What’s more they were making loans to companies in which they themselves were the principals. I’ve heard that they made some loans on their own houses with 3rd position mortgages, ie “completely worthless collateral to anyone with an IQ above single digits.” To the tune of about $10 million in the last few months.
I see stripes - or is it blaze orange jumpsuits these days?
A Santa Barbara-based 1031 intermediary went belly-up after the owner, dirtbag Don McGhan, used the proceeds held “in trust” to finance his other investment schemes (a roll-up of cosmetic surgical-supply type companies). He was a founder of McGhan Medical (which became Inamed). Santa Barbara, for some strange reason, has a large breast-augmentation industry (I’m talking manufacturing, silicon, etc., not just the actual surgical act, but we have a fair share of that as well).
As I tell my wife, there is no such thing as fake breasts!
Here is an article. I know one old couple that lost almost $1.5 million in this scheme. They did everything right, worked hard, had a nice investment property. When they decided to sell it (it was free and clear), some realtard convinced them that they should put the proceeds in a TIC. So the sold the building, put the proceeds in IPX Exchange (this was a reputable 1031 accomodator, but it was purchased by McGhan). Two weeks later McGhan’s scheme collapses, and poof! the money was gone.
http://tinyurl.com/89mhw8
McGhan realized early on that this was an almost completely unregulated industry that held tons of cash. He was hoping to use OPM to fund his roll-up. When the roll-up failed, however, everyone that trusted the various companies were SOL.
Nasty!
And naturally, he’s broke, so they are likely to get nothing. Maybe they can sue the realtwhore.
“While Parsons, whose incarceration is not related to his work for WaMu, oversaw a team screening mortgage applications, he was snorting methamphetamine daily, he said. ‘In our world, it was tolerated,’ said Sherri Zaback, who worked for Parsons and recalls seeing drug paraphernalia on his desk. ‘Everybody said, ‘He gets the job done.’”
I get the feeling there are these types of people out there floating around, ready to attach themselves to the next scam. I wonder that that will be?
Reverse Mortgage.
“He gets the job done”
LOL! WHAT job? ( Doing dope? )
WT, I’m sorry, it’s just come time for a pee test in finance. I think we’re ALL tired of it. There’s plenty of jobs that require one ( air traffic controllers etc. ) and this is just too important to ignore any longer.
Everyone above bank tellers submits to random pee tests. I mean c’mon, it was on the guy’s DESK in plain sight for crying out loud.
And yet it explains so much.
I was more than aware of Wall St. traders tending to abuse narcotics on the job. I didn’t really think the mortgage houses were doing it too. Everything is starting to come together now.
Well, regardless as to what facet of the industry it’s now spread to, it needs to stop. Yes, at the hedge funds too. Now that I think of it, -especially- the hedge funds!
How DARE you guys associate lazy, irresponsible behavior with recreational drug use!!!!
Didn’t you guys get the word that the most “creative” people in our society are mature enough to use drugs without effecting their job performance?? Drug testing is for all us blue-collar losers.
Drug testing is for all us blue-collar losers.
“Four legs good, two legs better.”
I thought it’s normally the low employees that get the wiz quiz, while the higher ups are the ones who aren’t questioned.
Funny you’d mention that? And yes, that’s usually the case. Obviously, we need to change that. I recently volunteered to go -back- into the reserves. While at the entrance physical they -also- gave everyone of us a breathalyzer too.
I thought that was odd but complied. Then it dawned on me that a lot of people that suspect they may have drugs in their system, pound down the drinks so they’re basically “peeing clear”. If you set off the blow test, you weren’t going to be processed any further.
I heard someone on the radio tonight say that any CEO asking for bailout money should have to pee into a cup.
Health insurance for the disenfranchised?
ShamWow?
One of the most successful pushers works for Chase, the article says.
“Summit specialized in 1031 tax-deferred exchanges”
Ah… the life blood of Bend! If you’re like me you’ve always cast a skeptic eye toward firms that “specialize” in this type of activity. Personally I’ve always held them in the same regard as “Set up a Nevada LLC” schlock shops but whatever.
The problem has been that IRS was very aware the 1031’s were being abused but couldn’t effectively regulate. Again just as with the bank fraud boom ( I mean HOUSING boom ) there was safety in numbers. Well time to shut this down.
You can bet the IRS will still want their money for capital gain.
As well they should. There’s no secret that a “conduit” existed between affluent CA’s and Bend and much of that was accomplished through 1031 Exchanges. Where the revelation comes is in this firm’s blatant abuse of client trust.
Why should they have been acting as a “bank” anyway? Seems to me that’s a whole other infraction. My understanding was that they functioned solely as a service company providing “guidance” on how to complete the transaction.
Anyone out there know if this is any way typical?
Anyone out there know if this is any way typical ??
The thieving of the money is not very typical but it can happen…I stick with the biggest that have the best insurance “Fidelity or First American”…See my short response to Montana above…
The city of Grants Pass, Oregon, is in a severe
state of denial, refusing to cut staff and actually giving them raises while the city itself is slowly
self destructing due to rising unemployment and store closures.
Housing is dead with empty finished units all
across the town, and yet two new developments are
going up right now next to rows of empty homes.
Yeah Rancher…My Cousin who lives out on Riverbanks Road said there is a large subdivision underway on the highway coming out of town a he can’t understand given the market conditions why…
Scdave,
Yep, that’s one of them. They’re doing site
prep and starting on the underground. No one
can figure out why the H*&% they are building.
We’ve got townhouses empty by the block,
bank owned signs up everywhere and it’s
just nuts.
“A South Waterfront condo once owned by a former U.S. Bank fraud investigator now doing time for embezzlement has resold for a discount of about 40 percent. [David A.] Shelofsky pleaded guilty in October 2006 to pocketing $1.5 million of the money he recovered from people accused of defrauding U.S. Bank. An accountant found that $583,000 of embezzled money went to properties Shelofsky purchased, including this condo. Shelofsky was sentenced to 37 months in federal prison last March. ”
37 months is all? This is what is so terribly wrong with our criminal justice system. A blue collar criminal might do a longer sentence for stealing what amounts to less than a few thousand bucks, but this jerk gets a mere 37 months for stealing more than $1.5M? Unreal.
Outlandish isn’t it? Talk about skewed justice.
It wouldn’t surprise me if he agreed to testify against others. Anyone know the details of his plea?
Dang, he made a cool $40,540.54 for each month of his incarceration.
I am an individual that was involved with David Shelofsky personally. I was employed at US Bank and made several judgments in error. I am not ignoring or downplaying the mistakes that I made. Dave, as I got to know him, is an evil person, as is US Bank as an institution. I tried many times to contact Dave and US Bank to get a full accounting of my assets that Dave took. SIx years later, US Bank refuses to release any information. All they have ever told me was that the case was settled and no more information would be given to me. I tried on multiple occasions to let Dave’s superiors on what he was doing with my case. Dave to them was God-like, they turned a blind eye to his actions. The 500k the independent accountant that Judge Garr King hired to look into Dave’s records were the assets taken that they could find. Dave lied to the judge over and over, lied to US Bank, and lied to the individuals that made horrible mistakes in order to get what he wanted, there money. To this day, I am missing a car that was taken by Dave, personal property, and money from my account. Dave turned family members against and even tried to get my wife to turn against me. I was there the day Dave was sentenced, by the look on his face, he knew he got away with more then he was accused of. I will forever be in debt to US Bank for the money owed that Dave took. I can only hope one day I would be able to have my day in court. I am sure by this point US Bank got rid of all the evidence that shows the money I actually paid back. My only hope is that US Bank will fall someday like WAMU did.
If it helps you feel better, I switched my business banking away. I switched my personal banking away after US First Bank sold my personal transaction info to telemarketers (you may remember that era) and not only refused to apologize but instead insisted it was legal.
you did have your day in court Heffley..you were sentenced to prison. you didn’t know dave personally..he investigated you. get over it!
The 1.5 Mill is just the beginning. While trying to stay out of prison during the pre-sentence phase, he defrauded others. At a time I should be planning for retirement, I am planning for bankruptcy. He is likely looking for who he can bilk next.
“John Faulconer, a mid-valley builder for 10 years, hung up his tool belt this year and now sells existing real estate full time. ‘I just sold my own home for $550,000,’ he said. ‘A year and a half ago I could have gotten $750,000. It makes me sick.’”
It makes ME sick that this guy has this attitude! He chose to make a living as a real estate professional, and it makes him “sick” because one of his speculations didn’t pan out?
I don’t call the newspaper and tell them I’m sick every time I sell a stock at a loss.
“real estate professional”?
reuven,
Right, and notice ALL of his concern is reserved for ‘himself’. HE… ‘could’ have sold. HE… ‘could’ have profitted! Well, what about all the people you sold homes to that are completely under water?
He fails to mention ‘them’. And this is what bugs me most about REIC members. Nevermind the schtick about “communities” etc. It was all about ‘them’.
what a whiner, no one wants to hear what you could have got…i want to hear how low they are willing to sell for…he still made out like a bandit and most likely had a profit!
“Jefferson County’s assessor expects to hear some noise when his office sends out property tax assessment revaluation notices next August for the city of Port Townsend, just as he did after assessments for Chimacum and Port Ludlow came out earlier this year. The Port Townsend notices, which will be for 2010 taxes, will show average increases of 20 percent to 25 percent, Jack Westerman III said.”
“‘They’re going to say ‘Jack, you are out of your mind,’ said Westerman, who at 30 years in elected office is the state’s longest-standing county assessor.”
It’s because you ARE out of your mind, and you know it, Jack! These SOB’s know EXACTLY what they’re doing. They’re soaking people as much as possible to fill the government coffers. I know Port Ludlow, Port Townsend, Chimacum, Sequim, and all the other Jefferson and Clallum County areas quite well. If I had to describe them in a nutshell, it would be BYOJM. Bring your own job and money. There are NO JOBS. The prices that people have been paying are so absolutely absurd, and defy logic or description. These areas are in for an absolute MELTDOWN.
“Eugenio Aleman, Wells Fargo & Co. senior economist, says federal monetary policy — injecting hundreds of billions of dollars into the economy through the financial sector — is not helping those who need it the most. ‘It will not help those who are struggling to make ends meet, or have lost their jobs or who may soon lose them,’ Aleman said, ‘because no financial institution is going to lend them money to buy a home, no matter what the interest rate is.’”
He is right, and this is why we’re seeing deflation instead of inflation. Just giving the banks money to lend does not mean people that are likely to pay back the money are going to come in for a loan. AND, now that teh banks can’t securitize the loans, they are loaning their own money, and suddenly they actually care whether the borrower is likely to be able to repay the loan.
We need to get money into the hands of people that will spend it, and giving it to banks isn’t, and won’t, do that. Handing out money last Spring didn’t do it either as too many saved the money, or worse, used it to pay down debt.
I do not see how the Fed or the government can get money into the hands of people that will spend it, without causing other, unintended consequences. Therefor, I’m not convinved the hyper-inflation prediction will come to pass. I used to be a believer, but the debt is too big, and will continue to collapse much faster than anyone can figure out how to get people to spend.
Give it to me! I’ll f’in spend it on a house for my family, furniture, a new car, all the things they want to stimulate the economy! Give it to people who have no debt!
Seriously, though, all these bailouts of banks auto companies, etc, are probably a bad idea. They should give the money away to the individual taxpayers and let it trickle on up! The “little people” *waves hand* are the ones who should decide where the money goes!
How about this slogan for 09?: “WAMU. The power of bankruptcy.”
Has a nice ring to it?
Right, I like “The Power of…Whatever?”
or, The Power of WTF? The Power of We’ll Believe Anything.
Enjoy Fred Thompson: Well done Fred.
http://blip.tv/file/1528079
Nice post….Funny…
“‘”It was the Wild West,’ said Steven M. Knobel, a founder of an appraisal company that did business with WaMu until 2007. ‘If you were alive, they would give you a loan. Actually, I think if you were dead, they would still give you a loan.’”
I’m calling you out that bulls**t statement, Mr. Knobel. Why, just last week I personally looked on as Eartha Kitt was wheeled into her local WaMu branch, then a few minutes later wheeled back out. I could tell by her body language — head slumped, entire body sort of limp — that WaMu had rejected her application and that she felt demoralized and defeated. I hate it when predatory lenders think they can treat the frail and the elderly any way they damn well tootin’ please — all in the name of the almighty dollar. Rant off.
Luv,
Jen
p.s. Sorry, I just read the article again, and Knobel was talking about 2007 and earlier.
““News of what happened has surprised investors and business partners who said that Summit’s principals had strong reputations in the field and community. ‘They were very well regarded,’ said Dave Chambers, an accountant in Lake Oswego who ran Summit’s local office. “”
Why does this sound familiar?
“As 2007 ended, Mike Scott, of Dupre + Scott Apartment Advisors, said renters should see rents rise and stiffer competition for apartments.”
When did Mike Scott quit Dunder Mifflin?
Rents rise? In Norfolk they are finishing up hundreds of new “luxury” apartments for a market that is mostly underpaid, or people receiving housing allowances from the Navy. Some of them were to be condos but were switched to apartments since there are unsold condos.
Probably just another part-time job for Michael Scott. You know sort of like his part-time telemarketing job. I don’t know why he just doesn’t DECLARE BANKRUPTCY and mean it this time.
Here, in Southern Oregon, most people are in a state of shock that it could actually happen here (the real estate bust)! Most local articles talk about falling inventories, but those statements are ill-informed. Inventories of homes for sale through the MLS are certainly decreasing, very slowly. But the number of REO/vacant homes, no longer listed in the MLS has exploded. The real “total inventory” of unsold homes is probably around 3500-4000 homes, which translates into 30-40 months to clear inventories at the current levels (Medford/Ashland/Central Point). We need to change the name of the State of Oregon to the State of Denial!
“Summing up the 2008 housing market, Glenn Crellin, was succinct: ‘…We clearly have a situation where consumers have exited the market, rightly or wrongly, on the presumption that housing prices are going to fall precipitously and they’ll be able to get tremendous bargains if they wait.’”
Buzzzzz! Time to go ahead and retire Glenn. If you still don’t get it you never will. People can’t AFFORD houses at current prices. RENTING is a much better deal. When buying makes sense relative to incomes and rent equivalent values, AND they are confident of keeping their job, people will start buying again.
Honestly, why the heck would I purchase now when (1) I can rent for half the monthly carry cost; (2) there is a non-trivial probability that I will lose my job as Washington State University faces severe budget cuts (and potentially more in the future).
Long time lurker, rarely a poster. I started reading in early 2005, sold my house in Los Angeles in Sep. 05 and been renting in San Diego ever since. Big ups to Ben and the original San Diego based Professor Bear, wherever you may be. The idea of going from home owner to home renter seemed like a giant step backwards to my wife, until I got her reading this blog and she began to understand the true cost of “owning.”
Anyone have timeline ideas for buying in the Eugene real estate market? My better half is financially stoked I talked her out of buying a San Diego replacement house in 2005. But after moving from a couple of great rentals due to landlords selling, she is looking forward to settling in someplace and not moving again for many, many years. We will miss San Diego weather, but with the impending collapse of public schools in California, we are thinking of moving on. My job keeps me at work until 9:00 p.m. eastern time and I’m a big proponent of dinners and time with the family, so no interest in moving outside of pacific or mountain time zones. Prudence and skepticism have left us secure financially, but by no means rich, unless you count family and friends.
Top contender was Corrales outside of Abq, NM, but we have been hearing great things about Eugene and want to check it out.
I investigate publicly traded companies and what I hear daily keeps me under my desk rocking softly and adjusting my tinfoil hat. So a little land, a well and a vegetable garden all seem like decent hedges. Those features seems achievable in Eugene. Not sure if we are looking at existing houses or having a smalling energy efficient house built on raw land that we buy.
Any thoughts about Eugene or other spots conducive to outside activities with decent public schools and less certain impending financial disaster than California offers?
I think the Eugene/Salem area would be a great choice if you have settled with the issue of rain…Somewhat diversified and a University town…Lots to do with a family…Go for it !!
“September’s turmoil, of course, included federal regulators seizing Seattle-based Washington Mutual Inc. and selling its branches, deposits and loans to New York-based JPMorgan Chase — the largest bank failure in U.S. history.”
Too bad, guess these yokels didn’t have Hank Paulson on speed dial
i was in eugene and all central oregon recently, I have travelled to most countries in europe and most of the western USA. I would put oregon at the very top for natural beauty behind colorado and norway. The coast of oregon is great too! so, you have the wonderful wine regions in oregon, eugene being a perfect location to see the whole area. lots of traffic at rush hour, but where can you go to avoid traffic these days. I would pick oregon before NM any day of the week. i’d say go for a nice week to see it for yourself! I actually liked it in the winter too!
So a little land, a well and a vegetable garden all seem like decent hedges. Those features seems achievable in Eugene. Not sure if we are looking at existing houses or having a smalling energy efficient house built on raw land that we buy.
I grew up in Eugene in the 70s and left home for college in 82 during the height of the Reagan recession when unemployment in the area was high double digits. I still visit family there from time to time and frankly the place still seems in a time warp. Still lots of overeducated and underemployed folks knocking around not wanting to move on with their lives after graduating from the UO. To me the Eugene area just has the feel that its fading. Even the schools aren’t what they were in the 70s and 80s.
If you’re not looking for employment, just a nice place to live then there are a lot of options. Some towns that come to mind are Silverton, McMinville, Hood River, and Corvallis. Washington also has a lot of decent locations. I like Bellingham, and smaller towns on the east side of the mountains like Chelan and Winthrop.
And I would wait a whole lot longer before buying.