May 31, 2009

Bits Bucket For May 31, 2009

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Comment by aNYCdj
2009-05-31 04:37:44

Can I be #1 because i RENT…or because i am a DJ?

Comment by az_lender
2009-05-31 04:55:43

Are you still looking for work? What kind of work are you looking for (besides DJ) ?

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-05-31 05:01:47

It could be anything AZ….radio tv music video, paralegal, everything is dead slow, Most TV stations are day hire free lance news crews etc. hard to live like that anymore. I would like a little stability for a while so i can get caught up on my bills.

There is a massive amount of commission only jobs heck i get 30-40- if those offers a week….or now everyone wants you to be a free work intern…when those JOBs were Paying gigs just 2 years ago…and then they wont “hire” an adult so we can keep our resume up to date.

we are not even close to a bottom

Comment by az_lender
2009-05-31 05:13:27

And yet the lead article in NYT real estate section is about some couple who gave the initial “investor” a 15% profit on a 2-yo condo (just now). At the moment, people in your fair city are willing to pay a premium to get into a building that’s sold out, as opposed to a building that may never be completed.

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Comment by mgnyc99
2009-05-31 08:19:42

the fact that i deal with large constructon firms and developers in the nyc area tells me things are pretty dead

in fact a huge portion of my business these days is
nyc public school renovation jobs

i work for a very well established company with
huge amounts of nyc real estate which has been owned
since the 1930’s and a large cash cushion

we have to fight for our money these days like dogs

i have liens on several jobs

 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2009-05-31 09:06:19

I’m sorry to hear about the dog.

We went out last night. The restaurant was packed. The streets seem to be busy. The bar, after dinner was pretty busy. But it was also a beautiful spring day when business should be booming. I still walked by a ton of stores for rent.

Today is the last day of our lease. We renewed. We are staying put. Tomorrow we start paying $400 less per month. We might have been able to get more but I was afraid they would call my bluff and we would have to move. That thought did not strike a pleasant tune in my mind. The initial renewal notice would have had our rent flat.

The condo building on Hudson, between Greenwich Avenue and 14th looks to be finishing up. It is a glass and steel abomination. I laugh every time I go by. I wish there was somebody and could mock and laugh at. Anybody buying into that mess is crazy.

Things are sure ugly with this economy. But NPR just announced that Geithner said the financial system is in much better shape. What a shameful little worm he is. The only thing NYC has going for it is the fact that we are getting bailout bucks dumped on us by way of Geithner and his gifts to the financial mafia. But how much will filter down?

Prices in Minnesota are still dropping drastically. At least in my hometown they are. Inventory is way down but so are prices. Most listings seem to be “distressed” sales. I think that is keeping the hopeful sellers out of the market, thus creating a distorted picture. I love distorted pictures. They lure in the fools.

I can’t wait for the next person at work to tell me and my wife to buy. I have been making people really pay for such statements lately. The guy in the office next to me got it a couple of weeks ago. He bought for $500,000 in Jersey but it was a good deal because it was 10% lower than the peak. That’s not bad for a house that should be $200,000, at most. I put him against the ropes for the first time and gave him a sound thrashing. I have held up my New Years resolution of being more honest. I have been blasting away and will continue to do so.

Keep fighting everybody. We just might lose every battle but still win the war. Common sense has many enemies but a few fighters with staunch hearts and sharp swords can really make a difference.

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:28:39

Tomorrow we start paying $400 less per month.

NYCityBoy, good to see you posting. Do I want to know what you pay each month in rent? That would be a 30% reduction in the most expensive place I’ve ever rented!

 
Comment by CrackerJim
2009-05-31 11:39:40

I have scheduled 3 days in Manhattan during my annual (last 5 years) vacation to the northeast. The room rate I got for Times Square view room reservations at a major hotel on Broadway is about 70% of the BEST previous rate I have gotten and less than 50% of the maximum I have paid at the same hotel in a different time of the year.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 12:25:36

Firstly, it’s good to see you NYCityboy.

Tomorrow we start paying $400 less per month.

Awesome!
…say, how many bottles of Jack Daniels will $400 buy? :)

I have held up my New Years resolution of being more honest.

Ahhhh…? Wow…

Keep fighting everybody…a few fighters with staunch hearts and sharp swords can really make a difference.

Plus, it’s fun!

 
Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 15:43:53

Good to see you write again NYCB.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2009-05-31 04:46:16

You’re OK dj, you should go to a couple of open houses today to get some good laughs

Comment by Ben Jones
2009-05-31 05:09:41

I think you are talking to yourself…

Comment by mgnyc99
2009-05-31 08:25:00

well Ben he is a renter and you know people who rent are weird……

myself being a pretty weird guy

what with no mortgage and no credit card debt and
actual savings i am a freak

good sunday to all

it has been one week since we had to put our beloved 13 year old dog to rest (she had very aggressive cancer)

i miss my dog quite a bit and she helped me stay out of the bubble because of so many coops with a no dog policy
it kept me from buying for so long

good doggie!

Comment by are they crazy
2009-05-31 08:28:57

I’m sorry for your loss. I lost my cat of 13 years 3 years ago and still miss her.

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Comment by Jane Pace
2009-05-31 08:35:51

well Ben he is a renter and you know people who rent are weird……

myself being a pretty weird guy

what with no mortgage and no credit card debt and
actual savings i am a freak

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Wow, I must be a freak too, and I’m a HOMEOWNER! No credit card debt, no mortgage and actual savings here too! And I can have as many pets as I like, knock down walls, rent to someone else or do as I darn please in my own home.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:08:40

And I can have as many pets as I like

Actually, I think there are often city/county regulations on the number of animals you can have. I recall that being an issue when I was a kid - if you had more than 3 dogs you needed a kennel license, maybe? Or couldn’t do it on non-agricultural land…I don’t recall…

 
 
Comment by ATE-UP
2009-05-31 08:48:21

I am sorry about your dog. An animal is a trusted friend.

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Comment by Ol'Bubba
2009-05-31 11:09:13

I trust my dog to watch my house, but I don’t trust him to watch my sandwich.

Still, he’s my little buddy. Good boy.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2009-05-31 11:43:38

We trust the dog we co-ownwith our daughter who livesnext door with our food. We trust him to eat it.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 12:45:02

We trust him to eat it.

Hahaha! Funny, wolfgirl.

Yes, mgnyc, I seem to recall you mentioning your dog before, how she had trouble going up and down stairs, so sometimes you carried her? She was a German shepherd? You may have been lucky in having a great dog, but your dog was also lucky, in having great human pets.
(If this wasn’t you, sorry.)

Anyway, I sympathize. There’s just nothing better than a good dog.

 
 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2009-05-31 17:46:36

I’m sorry to hear about the loss of your beloved dog.

My cat lived to be 21 years old and we had to put her to sleep. It’s been 3 years and I still miss her.

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Comment by az_lender
2009-05-31 05:25:03

DJ, here’s a new business idea for you: audio stager for unsold apartments. I mean, people get paid to “stage” the visuals of unsold housing units, maybe even to bake the cookes (olfactory staging?), so how about audio staging? Provide them w/ appropriate sound track depending on their target clientele? OK, it’s a dingbat thought, but you need $$, right?

Comment by polly
2009-05-31 08:29:19

I think that is genius. You just have to convince the realtors that particular music that only you can identify is what will make the difference. It isn’t hard to figure out that apple pie or chocolate chip cookies smell good and possibly smell like home. But you shouldn’t have any trouble convincing people that they don’t know what soundtrack makes people feel like they are home.

Comment by oxide
2009-05-31 08:39:25

Wasn’t there some thread that mentioned smooth jazz in the staged properties? Like they were trying to seduce the potential buyer. How do you spin Barry White?

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Comment by Eudemon
2009-05-31 09:39:11

I also think this is a good idea. Better than you might think, az_lender. Andy would have to be very selective as to music versus client - but hey. People buying into natural areas want to hear the birdies chirp or the sounds of waves crashing.

Compare those sounds with traffic sounds, airplanes, obnoxious neighbors, etc.

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Comment by bink
2009-05-31 09:48:29

You could bring in some giant LCD screens and just show “The Money Pit” on loop all day long.

Comment by Cassandra
2009-05-31 12:56:41

lol, I was thinking maybe use the sound track to the movie “Misery”

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Comment by ATE-UP
2009-05-31 04:50:31

Both.

 
Comment by wmbz
2009-05-31 04:51:21

LOL!! Love the last line.

Analysis: Ex-Countrywide execs seek to aid housing
Rachel Beck
Associated Press
Sunday, May 31, 2009

NEW YORK — Countrywide Financial placed itself at the epicenter of the housing crisis by making far too many risky loans to homeowners who ultimately couldn’t afford them. Those missteps cost CEO Angelo Mozilo his job when the lender was taken over by Bank of America a year ago at a fire sale price.

Mozilo is now spending most of his time dealing with the dozens of lawsuits naming him as a defendant, but his one-time No. 2 executive and a team of Countrywide alumni are still in the game — shopping around a new business called PennyMac that buys up distressed mortgages and modifies borrowers’ loans.

So, the same people who helped create the housing mess are now trying to make money cleaning it up. As off-putting as that sounds, there’s a certain logic to it.

“What will be important to watch here is whether PennyMac has found a way to make money and can do good for homeowners at the same time,” said Margot Saunders, an expert on predatory lending through her work at the National Consumer Law Center.

PennyMac announced on May 22 that it wants to raise $750 million in a public stock offering. No date for the IPO has been set, and the company declined any comment relating to its business because Securities and Exchange Commission rules prohibit it from going beyond what is spelled out in the IPO disclosure document.

The game plan discussed in the SEC filing starts with PennyMac buying at a deep discount troubled loans that have been clogging the books of the nation’s banks. Financial institutions already have been forced to take massive write-downs since the value of those assets have plunged. Those losses have caused banks to drastically curb lending, which has hurt the overall economy.

Once PennyMac owns the loans, it plans to approach borrowers with offers to modify the mortgages to make them more affordable. That could mean lowering the principal on the loans or cutting interest rates.

PennyMac makes money by buying loans at steep discounts, which allows it to profit when the mortgage is modified so long as borrowers stay current on their reworked loans. If loan values eventually rise with a rebound in credit markets, PennyMac would try to sell them.

PennyMac could buy a mortgage from failed Bank ABC for 20 cents on the dollar, well below the 70 cents Bank ABC had it on its books. PennyMac then contacts the delinquent homeowner, and offers to cut his mortgage payments in half, which would bring the value of the loan down to 35 cents on the dollar.

PennyMac profits from the spread between where it bought the loan and modified value. In this case, that would be 15 cents on the dollar.

PennyMac’s leadership could help fix the economy, or stuff they own pockets. Let’s hope capitalism doesn’t rule.

Comment by SDGreg
2009-05-31 05:48:27

“So, the same people who helped create the housing mess are now trying to make money cleaning it up. As off-putting as that sounds, there’s a certain logic to it.”

That’s the same logic as a doctor sexually assaulting a patient, then being paid to provide mental health treatment to that patient. The crooks that ran Countrywide should be in jail, not profiting further off the misery they have caused.

Comment by JimboAC
2009-05-31 09:42:45

Yesterday’s “Cash Out Specialist” is today’s “Work Out Specialist.” Heck– they can use the same names and numbers in their rolodexes from four years ago.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 06:04:01

“PennyMac could buy a mortgage from failed Bank ABC for 20 cents on the dollar, well below the 70 cents Bank ABC had it on its books. PennyMac then contacts the delinquent homeowner, and offers to cut his mortgage payments in half, which would bring the value of the loan down to 35 cents on the dollar.”

Hello, I`m out of Cash

I keep a close watch on this house of mine
I see it`s value droppin all the time
I see Mozilo skatin from his crime
But I`ll be fine
Cause I`m subprime

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2009-05-31 07:45:22

That’s a classic!

+1E6

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 07:52:19

“Ex-Countrywide execs seek to aid housing”

Isn’t that what they claim to have been doing before they became ex-Countrywide execs?

Comment by mgnyc99
2009-05-31 08:29:37

oh countrywide the company with a heart of gold!

on a side note-my in-laws came in for a few days and went to
atlantic city last night -they called to tell me the casino (borgata) was dead as a doornail.

they are oblivious to current conditions apparently

gambling is not on the top of most peoples list these days

they make me crazy, my fil will drive out of his way to save a buck but he will go to a casino?

it must be the florida living that makes you wacky

Comment by JimboAC
2009-05-31 10:48:09

Regarding Atlantic City: My wife’s a big R&B fan, totally indifferent to– if not turned off by– classic rock concerts. So when I started talking up a free Jefferson Starship concert put on the Sunday of Memorial Day weekend up in AC, she responded as she usually does, “Call some of your friends.”

Well, after getting lukewarm, noncommittal feedback from friends, I bagged the idea. Fired up the grill, left the car parked on Sunday. Different casinos have done pretty well over the years with free concerts. On Memorial Day Monday, though, the local fishwrapper ran a front page photo of the show. Photo was taken from high behind the stage so you could see the crowd. My guesstimate? Four hundred people, max.

I’ve never been a big Airplane/Starship fan and, of course, Grace Slick is long-gone, replaced by some very young sound alike. But a crowd of four hundred? For a free show? That’s not a good omen of what’s to come this summer in AC.

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Comment by JimboAC
2009-05-31 09:57:36

Their line is a little variation on the old adage, “It takes a thief to catch a thief.” I suppose it takes a mortgage fraudster to squeeze the last pennies from his/her former accomplices.

Aren’t you glad I didn’t refer to the FB/mortgagors as victims?

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-05-31 13:15:06

Countrywide/PennyMac Angelo Mozilo is the poster child of this whole mess.

It’s also a perfect example of this old saying:

“CAPITALISM - The extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men for the nastiest of reasons will somehow work for the benefit of us all.”

Comment by mjh
2009-05-31 15:53:00

Wrong. Capitalism is the belief that everybody, acting on their own self-interests, will maximize the benefits to everybody.

learn2economics

Comment by CA renter
2009-06-01 03:05:54

Eco was quoting a saying, not saying that was the definition of capitalism.

Still, I think his post was far closer to the truth.

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Comment by Bad Chile
2009-05-31 05:03:31

Still no mini-chile; but we got our lease renewal yesterday.

No price increase - again. We moved here in September of 2006 and have yet to see an rent increase. Last year they cut us a small check just to say thank you for staying, maybe we’ll get the same this year.

Maybe we can get the Baby Einstein DVDs with the money we saved by renting. Naaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!

I figure the kid will learn more playing with me than sitting in front of the tv. I like to dig holes and go to tea parties with Mr. Frog and Mr. Bear.

Comment by Blano
2009-05-31 07:52:12

“I like to dig holes and go to tea parties with Mr. Frog and Mr. Bear.”

Sounds like you and Oly would get along great. :)

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 16:16:34

Solid. Also, let’s drink some pond water and herd some bugs.

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 16:23:01

Oh, yeah, and fall out of many trees onto our heads.
Jeeze, man, I cannot believe I left that vital part out of the original schedule!
Perhaps I have fallen out of too many trees onto my head, and it has made me forgetful. :)

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Comment by polly
2009-05-31 08:36:26

Children under two don’t get much of anything out of images on a flat screen. Their brains aren’t wired for it yet. They need to see and interact with stuff in three dimensions. Talking to your kid and letting him/her push over a stack of blocks is way better than a video. Listening to and making music is good for them too.

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:07:08

Don’t forget to let the kid play with matches and fall out of trees. I learned a lot the hard way, but the lessons sure stuck!

Comment by Anon In DC
2009-05-31 11:03:56

Pain instructs. & Experience keeps a dear school but fools will learn in no other. - Ben Franklin, Poor Richard’s Almanac

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 12:55:50

Don’t forget to let the kid play with matches and fall out of trees.

Testify! That’s quality advice, there.

… but the lessons sure stuck!

Huh? Learned?

*puzzled face *

(Hahahaah! ;) )

Comment by Bad Chile
2009-05-31 14:06:10

1) Music: I’m going to use that as an excuse to buy a new guitar. Or amp. Or both. I thank you!

2) Matchs and fire: yep. I used to save my allowance to buy cans of wd-40 that I’d throw in a fire and then shoot with my bb gun trying to burst it. I fully believe that experience is the best teacher. No over protective parent here - want to know how I know sticking a metal hanger in a power outlet is bad? Yep.

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Comment by technovelist
2009-05-31 05:14:29

Hey, Olympiagal, my wife and I are going to be visiting the Seattle area at the beginning of July and were interested in visiting Olympic National Park/Forest. If you would be so kind to drop me a line at stheller at hotmail dot com, I’d like to ask you some questions about how to get there, where to stay, etc.

Thanks!

Comment by Amy P
2009-05-31 10:10:15

I’m from around there, and you basically just circle the park, going in and out the various entrances. It’s not a drive through national park. I’d suggest the trails around Sol Duc (particularly Sol Duc falls), a beach or two (maybe La Push–the last time my parents were out there this spring, they could see whales from the dock), and maybe hiking a few miles up the Hoh trail from the Hoh visitor center. You can’t really make any wrong choices, but bear in mind that things like food, lodging, and gas can be few and far between and the park concessions are often pricey. Oh, and be prepared for a day or two of rain (although July should be OK). Some of my relatives do raft and kayak trips on local rivers. Forks has a famous “Old Fashioned Fourth of July” parade and various festivities that shouldn’t be missed if you like that sort of thing. Forks is now apparently very popular with the tween girl set who like the “Twilight” books. Oh, and if you have the time, you might want to pop over to Victoria, BC (via the Port Angeles ferry) and spend a day or two there. It’s touristy, but very, very fun and walkable.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 12:57:18

I surely will technovelist!

If you go through Olympia you must let me know and I’ll buy you both a beer at the Best Dive Bar in the Universe.

Comment by socaljettech
2009-05-31 19:13:15

We may drive up just to go said bar- I love dive bars!!

 
 
Comment by BanteringBear
2009-05-31 12:59:47

Amy P makes good suggestions. I’d like to add that a stay at Kalaloch Lodge is a must (mid coast). There are innumerable beach walks in the area, with tide pools galore. There’s also an awesome campground north of the lodge, with sites overlooking the ocean; one of my favorite places on earth.

If heading north towards Port Angeles, then you have to make it over to Port Townsend. It’s a beautiful, quaint little seaside village with historical Victorian homes by the hundreds, some of them mansions. The downtown area has lots of little shops and eateries, and the scenery doesn’t get much better as far as a town goes. Sailboats dot the landscape, and the weather couldn’t be nicer in the summer. They’d also appreciate the business, as the Hood Canal bridge has been closed for a month or so, and many places have been struggling. The bridge will be back open soon, so it will not impact your trip in July.

If heading to Victoria, BC, Butchart Gardens is a MUST SEE. Phenomenal. I’d also recommend a boat trip to the San Juans. Nothing beats summer in western WA.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2009-05-31 05:17:26

Has economic twilight fallen on nation’s Sun Belt?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090531/ap_on_re_us/us_stress_map_sun_belt_sunset

Comment by SDGreg
2009-05-31 06:06:46

“The limits of natural resources were poised to put the brakes on development in the Land of Sunny Dreams anyway, he said. Two biggies: oil and water. “Long before we run out of land, we’ll be running out of water,” he said. “Water is a major issue right now.”

Energy and water will be the two biggest issues for the sunbelt in the decades to come. The sunbelt would have much less population than it does now without cheap, available water and cheap energy to power air conditioning. Take that away and other advantages of the sunbelt shrivel. Take away the cheap power to run AC and how many people would be living in Las Vegas, Phoenix, Houston, etc. outside of the winter?

Comment by palmetto
2009-05-31 07:27:26

“Take away the cheap power to run AC and how many people would be living in Las Vegas, Phoenix, Houston, etc. outside of the winter?”

Bear in mind that it does cost less to cool a house than to heat one. If it is 90 degrees, you’re only lowering the temp 15 degrees to be comfortable. If it is 30 degrees, you’ve got to raise it at least 35, depending on your comfort level. Of course, you’ve got to factor in various regions and how long the temps are at a certain level. For example, we’ve got about 5 months where temps hover between 85 and 95 with humidity. Up north, I think it is only about 3 months of bone-chilling temps.

Water is indeed a problem in FLA. We got really lucky this year with the unusual rains in May. However, much of that is wasted as it runs off from development. Not to mention one of my pet peeves is how Nestle Waters (French corporation)pumps out Crystal Springs which is the headwaters of the Hillsborough River, on which Tampa depends for its water. I have no proof, but I’m convinced Nestle increases its pumping when there’s a drought, so residents don’t know any better and blame the low leve of the Hillsborough River on the drought rather than the pumping.

Comment by Blue Skye
2009-05-31 07:41:40

Don’t overlook the condensation load for hot humid locals. It is more significant than the cooling load in some cases.

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Comment by Muggy
2009-05-31 07:52:14

I’m with Dime about the water issue. As far as the AC, I think it’s also exaggerated — provided you have some trees and a CBS house.

What this article doesn’t mention is that some of those issues plague everywhere — also, states that currently have “jobs” have heavy tax burdens. I dunno… too much brain activity for a lazy Sunday…

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Comment by yensoy
2009-05-31 21:38:39

Heating a house is “heat”.

Cooling a house is “work”.

This might seem banal to most of you, but there is some pretty major physics (thermodynamics) going on here, and the gist of it is that “work” is not the same as “heat”. Depending on various factors, it could take a lot more to cool a room by 1 degree than to heat it by 1 degree.

This is also why “heat pumps” are more efficient than electric space heaters.

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Comment by jane
2009-06-01 00:37:30

About temps up North - you need heat from October through April. Starting late October, you need more than a 15 degree gradient to be comfortable, if you are comfortable at 65 degrees. Dang, I can’t remember my degree days thingies - but heating costs double from October to December, and then plateau 50% higher than that in Dec-Jan-Feb.

You’d be sapped of will to do anything other than huddle without heat in October, Nov, March and April. You’d be a goner without heat in Dec-Jan-Feb.

Just saying.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 08:05:29

Before we claim to have run out of water, perhaps California should figure out how to convince Central Valley farmers to stop growing wetland crops like cotton. Guess which is cheaper, from both a water conservation and financial standpoint: Using California water to grow cotton, or growing other crops which require little water but lots of sun and command a high price tag on the global commodities market, then using the sale proceeds to purchase cotton from, say, Mississippi? Not to suggest that the all-powerful, super-rich state of California would consider such an obvious simple cost-saving solution, or anything…

Comment by polly
2009-05-31 09:36:42

Why should they do that when they are not paying the market price of the water?

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 10:47:26

Exactly. Step one to eliminating California’s fresh water conservation problem is to eliminate water subsidies.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 10:52:25

Before I read Polly’s post, I was thinking just a little while ago about the tremendous waste of America’s collective wealth due to the status quo feedback loops between special interest lobbyists and the politicians whose campaigns they fund in exchange for policy actions that destroy collective wealth in order to funnel benefits into the open hands of special interest groups. Two key examples are at the top of my mind:

1) Agricultural subsidies
2) Housing subsidies

Wake up, America! These special interest groups and the politicians who support their destructive policies are killing our nation’s collective prosperity. Stop them now, or soon join the third world.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 12:59:13

+fifty-eleven!

Super posts, PB.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 13:18:07

OlyGal — When the wife’s away, bears will play :-)

 
Comment by BanteringBear
2009-05-31 13:22:01

“Wake up, America! These special interest groups and the politicians who support their destructive policies are killing our nation’s collective prosperity. Stop them now, or soon join the third world.”

I’m awake, you’re awake. Lots of people are awake. But how do we stop this nonsense?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-05-31 13:27:40

PB, this is what is meant by “socialize the risks but privatize the profits.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:30:14

ecofeco,

You don’t need to preach to the choir. At every possible opportunity, I try my best here to be the choir.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 16:24:43

OlyGal — When the wife’s away, bears will play

Oh, yeah? Soooo….how much beer did you drink? :lol:

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:16:09

Bears don’t normally drink beer unless provoked by HBB comrades. They prefer wine purchased at Trader Joe’s for less than $5 a bottle.

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 22:27:43

Trader Joe’s has wine for less than $5/bottle? Hrm..that might be worth braving the hippie stink for…

(might not be all the TJs, but definitely the one I went to over on capitol hill)

 
 
Comment by cactus
2009-05-31 10:46:45

Purchase Cotton from AZ we have plenty of it growing here between Phoeniz and Tucson

In the great AZ wetlands

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 12:02:47

Hah! Small wonder the Colorado River is running dry. We are growing wetland crops in the middle of a dessert. Hello, Dept of Agriculture…

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 10:48:20

PB,
Did you ever read the book from a few years back entitled “The King of California: J.G. Boswell and the Making of A Secret American Empire ” about California’s unknown cotton king? It’s all about how he pulls strings in the legislature to have things go “his way”.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 12:01:40

That’s awesome. I have not read that book, but glad to see that my intuitive grasp of the problem is well aligned with historical facts.

 
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2009-05-31 12:35:28
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 13:16:10

He sounds like a fellow OlyGal could have loved to hate:

“It speaks to his incredible business sense that when his Arizona land was no longer good for growing cotton he was savvy enough to grow houses,” Rick Wartzman, the director of the Drucker Institute at Claremont Graduate University in Claremont, Calif., said Tuesday in an interview. Mr. Wartzman, a former business editor at The Los Angeles Times, is the author, with Mark Arax, of “The King of California: J. G. Boswell and the Making of a Secret American Empire” (PublicAffairs, 2003).

The J. G. Boswell Company currently owns about 150,000 acres in California and, according to Hoover’s Inc., a business analysis company, is the largest producer of cotton in the United States. It supplies textile mills worldwide and has annual sales of more than $150 million.

The company’s expansion has not been without controversy. Its vast, well-tended lands and network of irrigation canals stretch across the bed of Tulare Lake, which was once the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi, four times the size of Lake Tahoe. Early pioneers encroached on the lake to irrigate their farms, a process that Mr. Boswell’s uncle accelerated as he bought more property.

Four rivers feed Tulare Lake. The Boswells forcefully and successfully lobbied for the construction of dams that largely diminished the lake, draining its bed for more farmland.

“He re-engineered the landscape, much to the consternation of environmentalists,” Mr. Wartzman said of the younger James Boswell. “He was a titan with a lot of power in Sacramento and Washington. He genuinely loved the land, and yet he left an environmental record that was very mixed at best.”

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-05-31 13:32:12

Mixed at best? This man is singlehandedly responsible for CA’s water problem.

Wetland crops in a desert?! WTF?!

GAH! We absolutely deserve the government we have.

 
Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 14:39:57

Well I wouldn’t say that Boswell was “singlehandedly responsible”. Mullholland did his thing vis-a-vis LA stealing the water from Owens Valley long before Boswell was even born.

 
Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 14:46:34

A recommended read is Norris Hundley’s “The Great Thirst: Californians and Water: A History”. Rather than a single case history, Hundley goes all the way back to the Spaniards and the missions. Be forewarned: the revised edtion of 2001 has 800 pages.

This should be required reading in all CA schools, but I’m sure it isn’t even on any recommended lists. Hundley is an emeritus prof. from UCLA.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 15:25:12

A recommended read is Norris Hundley’s “The Great Thirst: Californians and Water: A History”.

Thanks, Dennis. I’m gonna buy it.
(You’ll know when I start reading it, because you’ll hear the inventive cussing. Boise is close enough to Olympia for the sound to carry, I imagine.)

 
Comment by B. Durbin
2009-05-31 18:03:47

I did not know that about Tulare Lake.

Boo! Hiss!

California Water Project delenda est!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:20:19

DennisN — Many thanks for the great CA water references, which I have added to my unread book collection backlog…

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-05-31 06:13:02

I posted that yesterday on BB, but it did not get in the blog until very late.

Here’s the part I like and I think low rents are already the incentive in place:

What to do? Scrap policies that encourage homebuying, he suggests, and give incentives to more mobile renters who can go where the jobs are.

In the digital age, he says, industries will likely cluster in “mega-regions” of multiple cities and their surrounding suburban rings (e.g., the Boston-New York-Washington corridor). These areas will surge, lifted by the brainpower of educated professionals and creative thinkers that turn out “products and services faster than talented people in other places can.”

Being a nomadic professional has been a winning situation this decade while millions of fools dropped anchor and became mortgage slaves, and became underwater in their mortgages.

I am well aware of the Boston to Washington D.C. corridor as a job Disneyland for my skills. Also Los Angeles, Orange County, and Silicon Valley.

There are still some good jobs in my area in Phoenix.

Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 08:08:04

I might add Baltimore, Philly and Norfolk, VA to that group of cities. I estimate a good 80% of our revenues (engineering and construction) come from this stretch between Beantown and Norfolk.

Comment by Va Beyatch in Virginia Beach
2009-05-31 10:26:41

Fascinating. Norfolk/Virginia Beach and surrounding areas are still very bubbly. Prices went up over 100% in Virginia Beach, now down a bit but not enough. Wages are pretty low in the cities surrounding Virginia Beach. We are a large metro area but made up of 7 cities so we don’t get credit. Lame jobs, lots of military. Near the water. Virginia Beach just got ranked #11 in the country for highest credit card debt. I’ve been looking at Raleigh and Northern Virginia.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:20:16

BiLA, I’ve read your posts for a long time, and certainly I see the benefits of willing to be a nomadic contractor. I’m 30 and single, and could arguably do it.

But, I just have no interest in uprooting my life on a regular basis. Maybe I imagine it’s worse than it really is, but I like the thought of having roots. Knowing people, having close friends. I hate moving.

It’s interesting to question how much of that is “socialized”, though…..how much of that is really what I prefer versus what I *think* I want.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-05-31 11:28:37

Yeah I agree. It’s quite lonely sometimes.

Even if you are rooted, beware. In your 30s, a lot of your friends will start cocooning. They will be too busy with families, yard work, and so on. This happened to me. Starting in the early 1990s, no more happy hour Wednesdays with the gang after most of them got married. So unless you are married and do like your friends do, you will feel so different from your friends.

Neighborhoods are very transient these days. I would be the oddest person in a SFH neighborhood, and my neighbors would make sure I would feel that way! The only way I would fit in as an owner would be an urban loft high rise building or by just renting in a large apartment complex, again, in an urban area. I paid mortgage for 6 years in a SFH neighborhood in a small town. My next door neighbor had this look all the time as if I was some sort of creep for being single and in my 30s.

My best situation to avoid feeling as though I’m under the spotlight is to keep the anchor raised.

The upside is that the money is very good. A friend of mine consulting in New Jersey is grossing $280,000 in a twelve month period. He lives in Philadelphia and walks or takes public transit across the river to work. A couple years ago I raked in nearly four times as much $ as I earned as a direct hire in the year 2000. I could retire, but I’d be bored. So with the money I have stashed away, I’m going to rent the fanciest furnished apartments in the best upscale areas and get more enjoyment out of carefree living.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 11:44:46

In your 30s, a lot of your friends will start cocooning. They will be too busy with families, yard work, and so on.

Yep, this happened. Part of why I decided to move myself, but my goal is still to find a place that I can ’settle’. But yes, my friends back in Austin got married and several are now pregnant. I figured I was going to have to find new friends anyhow - might as well move somewhere I’ll be happier.

I would think the biggest ‘risk’ to being nomadic is not being able to settle into a relationship. I posted a few weeks ago about a woman in the Navy I was dating up here. She moves around every year or two. While we got along well, it was clear the relationship was going to end when she moved. I can’t imagine not having the prospect of a committed, long-term relationship (even if I’m personally lacking that at the moment). How many people will take the risk of getting involved with someone who’s likely to move in the near future?

Money is nice, but for me it’s a distant second behind good, close friends and a supportive relationship.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 15:36:32

Money is nice, but for me it’s a distant second behind good, close friends and a supportive relationship.

Testify. It was terribly, terribly hard for me to leave my friends and my family—why, my ancestors marched in with ol’ Brigham Young long ago, singing hymns and praying and dying and other interesting stuff like that, and my great great grandpa founded the town I lived in for part of my youth, man, there’s roots there! I left my mom, my 7 siblings, all my cousins…I gots 67 cousins. That’s on my dads side. I lost track of my moms side cousin-output. They’re boring, so I don’t bother to observe them. Interestingly, they are almost all of them dentists! What’s with that?
But I digress.

It was SO hard to leave. But it had to be done. It just did. It was me versus Utarr as soon as I gained self-awareness at about 3 years of age, and don’t think I’m a quitter, because I’m not, but the fact is, the battle was wearin’ me down. Plus albinos aren’t built for Utarr.

So anyway, drumminj, I remember when you relocated to here. What do you think of the PNW? Go on—ramble away, tell us your thoughts, man.

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 15:55:29

Oly, I could ramble on and on. I do like the PacNW. It’s nice having a ’spring’ with flowers and smells and all that. I find the people friendly (contrary to what most tell me to expect). Gorgeous scenery (my new apartment overlooks the sound and the olympics..very nice). Mt. Rainier looks like a fake backdrop, but it’s a nice addition.

It was the right move for me, or so it would appear at this early stage. I just need to find the gainful employment part. Luckily I have unemployment and occasional contract work with past employers to keep me afloat. Employment would likely be an issue had I remained in Austin, though, so I don’t dwell on that.

 
Comment by CA renter
2009-06-01 03:27:37

Money is nice, but for me it’s a distant second behind good, close friends and a supportive relationship.
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Very nice post, drumminj. When you do finally settle down, you’ll make some nice woman very happy. :)

Hope you find a job soon. I thought you had one when you went out there?

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-06-01 07:46:47

Thanks, CA Renter. Nope…moved up here w/o a job. Looks like I have a few months of contract work in the pipeline though. Should find out today.

 
 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 07:57:45

Nice post Muggy…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-05-31 13:42:33

As someone who lives on the south, water is definitely a growing problem.

As for the report of industry clustering around mega-metros, my experience is that large industries are moving away from the metropolises as far as they reasonably can.

Why? Taxes. The municipalities and even the counties they exist in are taxing them to death.

I’m all for businesses paying their fair share of taxes, but some of them are ridiculous. And this is only compounded by Fortune 500 companies getting tax breaks. Guess who has to make up the difference?

 
 
Comment by NoSingleOne
2009-05-31 05:22:46

ABU DHABI, May 31 (Reuters) - The central bank chief for the United Arab Emirates said he saw weakness in the dollar as a “temporary situation” and expressed support for the greenback, saying nothing could replace it as a reserve currency.

“There is no other currency to replace the dollar, not the euro,” Central Bank Governor Sultan Nasser al-Suweidi told reporters on Sunday. “It is the currency for investment.”

The comments echo those made several days earlier when Suweidi said the UAE was not diversifying its reserves away from the dollar after the country’s decision to drop plans to join a Gulf Arab currency union fanned speculation it could alter its dollar peg. [IDn:LT295593]

Comment by ahansen
2009-05-31 13:01:44

One senses a speculative play in oil coming on….

Comment by ecofeco
2009-05-31 13:51:06

Coming? :lol:

I also wonder how this fits in with some oil producing nations going to the Euro.

Fun trivia: Iraq was about to switch to the Euro for oil trading just before we invaded.

 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 06:19:13

In the movie The Perfect Storm the sun peaked through the clouds right before a giant wave sank the swordfish boat.

Geithner sees hopeful signs in US economyMay 31, 2009 9:02 AM ET advertisement

All Associated Press news BEIJING (AP) - U.S. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner says the U.S. financial system is in much better shape these days and there is more stability in the overall economy.

Geithner told reporters traveling with him Beijing that there are a number of signs the U.S. economy is beginning to stabilize. The U.S. has been mired in its longest recession since World War II.

But Geithner said much more needs to be done — both in the U.S. and elsewhere — to make a sustainable recovery possible.

Comment by polly
2009-05-31 08:47:13

I am getting really really sick of the punit class saying “It’s always darkest before the dawn” over and over again. Lovely metaphor, but just not true. Right before the dawn things start to get a little lighter, you know, over in that part of the horizon where the sun is going to come up.

They ususally spout this dreck when some really nasty economic statistic comes out.

Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:37:58

It’s all part of the “all optimism, all the time” approach that seems to be prevalent these days. I just don’t get it. Was there ever at time people were realists? I like to blame it on the book ‘the secret’ (ugh), but really….

When did it become unreasonable to admit that things aren’t always going to be sunshine and [candy crapping] unicorns? And that a turn for the positive might not be just around the corner? Am I the only one not on anti-depressants or something?

Comment by Nudge
2009-05-31 10:42:15

As a matter of fact, yes you are :)

This message brought to you by the “better living through chemistry” fan club.

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Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 13:05:12

This message brought to you by the “better living through chemistry” fan club.

Why, I’m a member of that club myself! Although I ’self-medicate’, so to speak. ;)

 
 
 
Comment by ahansen
2009-05-31 13:09:37

+1, Polly.

I’m up before dawn quite frequently and can attest to the veracity of your statement. In irksomeness, it ranks right up there with “Tomorrow is another day,” and “The future lies ahead.”

Just for the record, it’s actually darkest behind the shoe rack in the back of the closet….

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 15:43:14

it’s actually darkest behind the shoe rack in the back of the closet….

Man, you’s wise! That’s what I’m going to say from now on, for forever and ever, whenever the subject of darkness comes up.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 16:55:14

The bigger they are the harder they punch!

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Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 09:34:14

But Geithner said much more needs to be done — both in the U.S. and elsewhere — to make a sustainable recovery possible.

So he thinks there are signs that the economy is starting to stabilize, but at the same time doesn’t think a sustainable recovery is possible right now, without other action?

I wish someone would define these words for me. What does Geithner consider “stabilization?” And a “recovery?”

Comment by NYCityBoy
2009-05-31 09:42:17

“But Geithner said much more needs to be done”

He believes a lot more raw meat must be thrown to the wolf pack that controls him. Just think TARP, TALF, PPIP, etc. We will be getting more and more giveaways to “save the system”, in other words to keep his buddies in complete control of the U.S. government and its policies. Oh hell, let’s just say it. He believes we need to keep giving Goldman Sachs everything they could ever dream of.

Comment by Anon In DC
2009-05-31 10:57:24

I can’t wait for the next person at work to tell me and my wife to buy. I have been making people really pay for such statements lately. The guy in the office next to me got it a couple of weeks ago. He bought for $500,000 in Jersey but it was a good deal because it was 10% lower than the peak. That’s not bad for a house that should be $200,000, at most. I put him against the ropes for the first time and gave him a sound thrashing. I have held up my New Years resolution of being more honest. I have been blasting away and will continue to do so.

NYCityBoy, please give details of these conversations. Share what the dolts are saying and their responses to your intelligent questions. Need some good laughs.

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Comment by 2banana
2009-05-31 13:11:53

Being more honest doesn’t mean you have to be an @ss. There are ways to get your point across and still be a human.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:44:23

‘We will be getting more and more giveaways to “save the system”, in other words to keep his buddies in complete control of the U.S. government and its policies.’

But don’t you see how important it is to do this, given the crisis we are in? If they don’t do it, things will turn out ever so much worse (or so I have been told)…

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Comment by mikey
2009-05-31 06:43:28

OT…sorry but one of our HBB people had some concerns as they have MTG with this bank and I’m in a rush and can’t locate their post.

FYI…

Anchor BanCorp extends credit payback agreement
By Paul Gores of the Journal Sentinel

Madison’s Anchor BanCorp Wisconsin Inc. said Friday it has a new amended agreement that will give it a full year to pay back a $116.3 million line of credit to U.S. Bank.

Anchor, Wisconsin’s fourth-biggest bank, said that under terms of the amended agreement, the maturity date on the balance now is May 31, 2010 and no principal payment is due before then. A previous amended agreement was set to expire Friday. The line of credit is secured by Anchor stock.

Anchor has been wrestling with financial losses. Anchor lost $169.8 million last year and another $20.6 million in the quarter ended March 31 of this year, according to FDIC records.

http://tinyurl.com/kreuoy

 
Comment by SUGuy
2009-05-31 06:44:19

Industry Fears U.S. May Quit New Car Habit

DETROIT — For all the drastic cuts and financial overhauls that are meant to secure a future for General Motors and Chrysler, their prospects in coming years will be determined more by the answer to a simple question: Can American drivers live without that new-car smell

In recent years Americans appeared to be hooked on it and took advantage of home equity loans, easy credit and cheap short-term lease deals to send new-car sales to levels of more than 17 million a year.

Now the market has collapsed by 46 percent to below 10 million, as people are making do with the cars they have, leaving the industry to debate — and worry — about what the new normal will be once the recession ends.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-05-31 07:26:38

I’m addicted to the new car smell. I satisfy the addictive habit every ten years or so. I tend to buy quality, thus Toyotas or Hondas.

If you have outstanding control of your finances and your net worth increases above the rate of inflation, I don’t see why one cannot splurge on a depreciating asset every once in awhile.

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-05-31 07:58:24

Also Keeping your safe drivers insurance is one heck of a savings over being a road rage moron with sr22

 
Comment by MrBubble
2009-05-31 09:58:17

I love the smell of polyvinyl chloride in the morning!

 
 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-05-31 08:08:23

I keep wondering to myself, who (i.e. what demographic) will buy new cars from The People’s Automobile Company?

It seems to me that the more typical GM car buyer of the past generation is also the type of person most likely to be put off by the political machinations that led to the government buyout in process. I realize that I’m using some sweeping generalizations here, but I still think they’re valid considerations.

When you add this in to the reduction in car buying across the board due to ongoing deleveraging, I don’t see at all how this will end well.

Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 10:53:23

The People’s Automobile Company

Sorry but the name Volkswagen is already taken.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 08:14:51

I have been in the market for a couple of new vehicles for some time…I was getting all melancholy as to the plight of GM and was going to purchase one of their vehicles to try and do my little bit part to try and help…THAT was until the recent negotiations came to light…UAW gave up their vision and dental coverage and the bond holders got offered 20 cents on the dollar…We the tax payers are on the hook for 70% of a loser…I will never buy a GM vehicle again new or used…

Comment by socaljettech
2009-05-31 11:16:59

I also will never own another GM car- we own a 97 Chevy Lumina and a 95 Dodge Ram diesel - the contrast in quality between the two couldn’t be greater! The Lumina ate its engine @ 70,000 miles due to the miracle 100,000 mile antifreeze that GM developed that also incidently ate the gaskets on the car allowed the antifreeze to leak into the oil, grenading the engine to the point that it couldn’t even be rebuilt. It has been in a constant state of falling apart since I installed a new “crate” engine in it for $3100.00 8 years ago. I have managed to slow the rate of decline to the point it is now tolerable, but this car left a very bitter taste in my mouth for GM products. The only decent GM car I ever owned was my 71 Opel GT- well built, fun reliable car I drove for years before the ex-wife wrecked it.
The Ram, OTH, has been bulletproof- it has 187,000 on it now and is still going strong. I’ve only had one major problem- had to replace the ABS metering valve (400.00) a couple of year ago. That the extent of the problems in 10 years of ownership. I’ve had to do some interior stuff this year, but that was to be expected for an old truck. Also, I love the diesel- this the first one I have owned but it certainly won’t be the last.
Buy another GM? Never happen. I am looking at one of the Volkswagen (58 MPG and its not one of those overly complicated hybreds) or Mercedes diesels for for our next car. I buy cars for the long haul- diesel engines simply last longer due to the low RPM’s and lower stresses on them. I’ll look at Chrysler when we are truly ready, but I don’t really get a warm fuzzy from the company anymore as far as quality goes. Like calex noted these companys just pit in more complicated electronics in their cars and expect everyone to pay $50,000 for a $20,000 car and pretend its now an American Ferrari or BMW. You’re right calex- how many Camery wannabes do we need?

 
 
Comment by calex
2009-05-31 08:25:59

Or just maybe it is because they keep putting out the same tired auto’s thinking that now it has an IPOD hookup so we can double the price.

How many Camery look alikes do we really need?

Comment by Va Beyatch in Virginia Beach
2009-05-31 10:29:13

Ahhh the $2000 navigation upgrade, even though the handheld units sell for $99.

Comment by Wizard of Oz
2009-05-31 20:02:31

I have a cell phone (free with Plan) that has GPS functions every bit as good as my ~$450 Garmin Zumo (3yrs old).
Well okay it doesnt store & download routes to PC etc, but that and other functions I never use.
Cell phone GPS must have caused the price declines of late.
Also a vehicle built-in GPS, is as functional as a built-in microwave.

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Comment by Natalie
2009-05-31 07:07:20

I found these charts interesting. Looks like FL, CA, NV and AZ are more than 50% through the correction back to normal ratios (not to say that overbuilding, job loss, and high interest rates right around the corner, wont cause an over-shoot on the downside). The Northeast, however, has a long way to go.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeqrguz/housingbubble/

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 08:13:24

From the standpoint of fence sitters, the glass is nearly half-full, not over half-empty. If your post is correct, then those who sit on their hands for a few more years will be richly rewarded for their patience. In fact, I doubt the returns to patience have ever been much higher in the history of American real estate.

Looks like FL, CA, NV and AZ are more than have nearly 50% through left to go in the correction back to normal ratios.

Comment by yogurt
2009-05-31 08:25:00

How can you “have nearly 50% left to go” when nominal prices are already 50% off peak, like Phoenix and Las Vegas?

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 08:28:53

“…50 pct to go in in the correction…”

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 08:26:53

Those inflation-adjusted versions of the Case-Shiller price charts are so simple but so powerful in the information they provide. Another way to look at them besides “how far are we from the bottom are we?” is how far into the duration of the bust we are now compared to the duration of the early 1990’s bust.

For instance, in San Diego, the CS real price of housing peaked roughly in July 1990, at the onset of the early-1990’s recession (7/90 - 3/91, according to the NBER dating thereof), and the trough was reached by January 1997 — 6 years and 6 mos later.

By comparison, the onset of the current bust began with the peak real price of housing reached approximately as of July 2005. If the duration matched that of the early-1990s bust, it would end as of January 2012. Given that the current bust started from a higher peak and is playing out at a much higher rate of decline, it is pretty hard to guess whether similar timing will occur. But I note that larger meteorites leave behind much wider craters than do smaller ones upon impact.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 08:34:08

Another most interesting difference between this bust and the early 1990s bust: This time, housing’s 7/2005 peak in San Diego preceded the onset of the recession (1/2008?) by 2 1/2 years. What the implications are of the onset of an “unexpected” recession atop the most massive housing price avalanche in the history of the US is for someone else to elucidate…

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Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 08:50:46

Bear…Interesting interview with the CEO’s of Caterpillar, Xerox & Google this morning on Meet The Press…Worth watching IMO…

 
 
Comment by Natalie
2009-05-31 09:08:47

With the current government, I am not sure historical data is that useful on duration. They have shown they are deeply devoted to mucking it up.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:37:57

I look to the historical data as setting a reasonable estimate on the lower bound for the duration of the current bust. The more the government intervenes, the higher above this lower bound the duration of the current bust is likely to end up.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:41:32

I have been engaging in a bit of mental back of the envelope analysis regarding the way forward for the current housing bust. As an alternative hypothesis to the ‘green shoots’ theory, which says housing and the macroeconomy at large will bottom out and begin recovery by later this year, I propose the following:

1) The vertical drop in the ‘L’ shaped recovery will end circa January 2012, accompanied all along the way by periodic pronouncements by serial bottom callers that the recovery will commence 12 months out.

2) It will turn out through the lens of the rear view mirror that the ‘L’ was tipped over on its back, as the horizontal leg of the ‘L’ which commences in 2012 will prove of longer duration than the vertical leg.

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Comment by packman
2009-05-31 11:56:14

Make sure you clarify that the L is flipped around first before being tipped over - else someone might think you’re proposing a very rapid (though late) rebound. IMO there’s no way that’ll happen. If any rebound *ever* happens it will be very slow.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:59:56

Packman — Thanks for your clarification, which is spot on. My brain is in a bit of a fog today, so I am having trouble with mentally flipping my ‘L’s…

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by dimedropped
2009-05-31 07:24:35

I have grown up in Florida and been here for 60 years. I have heard the BS water shortage gig for all of them. In the last two weeks we received 30 inches of rain due to global warming no doubt.

We have a little phenom called tropical weather and hurricanes. Oh yes I also hear that water runs off and little gets in the aquifer.

All the groves froze out 20 years ago, everyone drinks bottled water from some spring in Tennessee, we now have a million acres of water retention areas, and they are still watering the highways and streets every night with water meant for shurbs.

Water shortage my azz, we are almost under water based upon the polar icecap meltdown. Right!!!!

Comment by Blue Skye
2009-05-31 07:45:45

The unusually low temperatures in the north threaten to decimate the Monarch population this year. Hard frost in the forecast again for tonight.

Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 08:23:47

That disturbs me to hear that Blue Skye…Wife and I spent several days in late Feb watching them move through Pismo Beach California…I sure hope it does not happen…

 
 
Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 07:51:36

H2O shortage are BS. The rain cycle may shift but it doesn’t get suspended or stay static.The challenge is conveyance…. getting the water to where you need it most.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2009-05-31 10:04:59

Being derisive to things that you do not understand is not becoming of you. Some areas will get wetter, some drier, some hotter, some will stay the same, etc. when it comes to global climate change. Please stick to housing. I apologize for being a d1ck. My brother just told me about a meeting that he was in where the head enviro guy challenged the reality of global warming and said that there was an 80%-20% for/against global warming ratio between scientists. More like 99%/1% and it has nothing to do with money. I may have misplaced my anger.

MrBubble

Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-05-31 10:17:45

I would say it’s more like 50%-50% at best. Everybody is dutifully mouthing the platitudes, but few actually believe them.

The climate change models have been proven over and over again to have zero predictive capacity, but that doesn’t stop the juggernaut from rolling along.

Comment by CrackerJim
2009-05-31 11:54:02

Dead on!

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Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 15:07:35

Mr.Bubble… I have a bulletin for you. I’ve been in the water business 20+ years…. We find it, we drill it, we develop surface supplies, build treatment facilities, design conveyance system and build them too. I’ve heard it all including “the rain cycle has been suspended”. Do yourself a favor and don’t conflate sourcing issues with global climatechange. It doesn’t do the cause of climate change any justice.

 
Comment by Carlos Cisco
2009-05-31 16:35:48

Climate malarkey. Recent geologic time (last 250,000y) has seen many, many temperature excursions both up and down. Studies of lake sediments convinced me that predicting onset or end of glacial conditions was probably impossible, and, recent pollen studies reinforce my belief. Forcing 600 million out of 7 billion humans into a third world economy with cap and trade wont change jack. Now, maybe reducing the human and cattle populations by 90 percent…… that would certainly change a few things.

Comment by Blue Skye
2009-05-31 21:35:16

I’d be interestedin more on the pollen studies. What do they reveal?

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Comment by Lost in Utah
2009-05-31 07:29:41

Hey everyone, my friend JIm just went from print to online for his awesome paper, the first global edition (put dots in the spaces):

www canyoncountryzephyr com

My fav is always “Take it or Leave it”

It’s a very interesting read, and he does all the illustrations himself, he was a close friend of Ed Abbey, and he’s a great guy. I know he’d appreciate your support, just in reading it.

Off to Colorado, with “stuff.” Reminds me of this:

www youtube com/watch?v=MvgN5gCuLac

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-05-31 10:15:48

Losty,

If you didn’t hear it yesterday, you might want to listen to “Wait wait.”

I only heard a couple of minutes of it in the car yesterday - Robert Earl Keen, who must live out in the country somewhere, describing the fine line between isolation and being too isolated. (Quoting it wouldn’t do justice to the delivery.)

add the dots:
www npr org/templates/rundowns/rundown php?prgId=35

It’s right before the segment on Skull and Bones.

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2009-05-31 07:34:13

I enjoyed the 1.5 hour helicopter ride over Grand Canyon much better then ridding a bus along the edge.

36 Hours at the Grand Canyon

MORE than a mile deep at its most majestic, the Grand Canyon can still drop the most jaded of jaws. The sun sparkling across the exposed rock, the delicate curl of the Colorado River, the birds chirping in the pinyon pines — and then a bus grinds past you on a hunt for the best postcards in the park. Yes, the Grand Canyon is big in every way, including the category of tourist trap. Over four million people visit this remote corner of Arizona each year, and the experience can be a bit “death by gift shop,” if you don’t plan ahead — a necessity even if crowds and kitsch are your thing. During peak season, May through September, hotel rooms sell out months in advance, ditto for those mule rides, and certain rafting trips can be a year-long wait or more. Ah, wilderness!

http://travel.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/travel/31hours.html?em

Comment by Eudemon
2009-05-31 08:24:05

Wow! All the traveling…

I’m outta here, too. Going to Mesa Verde, Four Corners, Hovensweep, Canyonlands, Arches and back via Black Canyon/Gunnison. I love to hike. Got my compass, hickory stick, flammables and bear spray. One day, I hope to hike the Colorado Trail.

Look out Losty and Oly. Your haunts past and present are about to be invaded!

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 13:13:56

Super, eudemon! Have much fun! Please tell us all about it when you get back.

If you get hungry then stop by my mom’s house—she’ll stuff you full and introduce you to the goats and horses and mules and stuff, and even give you a Book of Mormon! Hooray!
Stay away from Shorty, though—that little hairy unrighteous b*stard will try to kick you, right after he tries to bite you.

Comment by Eudemon
2009-05-31 20:59:30

So I shall. Thanks for the tip re: Shorty - some goats are pretty vicious. I remember a coworker getting attacked by a particularly ill-tempered nanny. Served my co-worker right - her behavior irritated me, too.

Fortunately my two-year-old nephew decided to stick two of his fingers into a pig’s snout (one finger per nostril). Said pig was nonplussed. It was just another day on the farm, apparently.

BTW - Oly - someday you need to make a beeline for the U.P. That’s the Upper Pennisula of Michigan. You’d love it there - very forestry-like, everything’s dark green and hemlocky. Gnomes running wild, peddling the freshest of mushrooms from swiftly passing canoes made of the finest birch. Lots of throwback rural bars and barns with fried chicken. Go NOW. What are you waiting for?

Oh - you also can get mooned often in those parts, ’specially near Pictured Rocks/Munising.

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Comment by whyoung
2009-05-31 14:39:00

you also might consider Chaco Canyon in NM- amazing

Comment by Eudemon
2009-05-31 20:47:51

Never heard of the place! I’ll be sure to check it out. Thanks.

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Comment by palmetto
2009-05-31 07:41:22

An older article, but I just recently came across it. Bitter fruits of grobalism. Very interesting read.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1063198/PETER-HITCHENS-How-China-created-new-slave-empire-Africa.html

Comment by yensoy
2009-05-31 22:07:45

Brilliant article and wholly believable. Three decades ago it was the USA - extremely prosperous itself but allied with all sorts of shady, nasty, brutal dictators around the world in order to keep its hold on natural resources. (notably Western Europe and the other anglo saxons got different treatment)

Today it’s China’s puppets in the news: North Korea, Myanmar (Burma), Pakistan, Sudan, Sri Lanka… fun fun

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2009-05-31 07:42:25

The Price Range Strategy

THREE years ago, when someone knocked on the door of Adriana Karekinian’s waterfront home here, and offered her $1.4 million for it, she turned the person down. She had just redone the stucco exterior, installed an in-ground pool and replaced the windows. The house wasn’t even on the market.
Fast forward to this spring. In the midst of a divorce, Ms. Karekinian, a former circus performer, needs to sell.
“I wish I would have known” about the souring market, she lamented.
But even while kicking herself for not having grabbed the unsolicited offer, Ms. Karekinian has joined a small group of pricing pioneers on Long Island: Rather than settling on one number for her five-bedroom colonial, she opted for a “value range price” of $999,000 to $1,194,876. She decided to adopt the tactic in listing the property last fall with Carol Poetsch of Prudential Douglas Elliman’s East Meadow office.
“I am not just going to say I want $1.3 and that’s final,” Ms. Karekinian said, signaling her flexibility but vowing that she won’t sell below the range. “Now I’m flexible — not stupid flexible, but flexible.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/realestate/31lizone.html?ref=realestate

Dam I thought it was the buyer who decides the price of a house. LI is a very strange place. People with money flaunt it.

Comment by Muggy
2009-05-31 08:04:18

“THREE years ago, when someone knocked on the door of Adriana Karekinian’s waterfront home here, and offered her $1.4 million for it, she turned the person down…“I wish I would have known” about the souring market, she lamented.”

You DID know. You were either greedy, stupid, in denial or all three. Following the HBB reminds me of one, ever-lasting, undeniable force…

Change

Comment by SUGuy
2009-05-31 08:16:03

On the spot muggy.

The only thing that is certain in life is change. If one does not like change they will like being obsolete even less.

 
 
Comment by MrBubble
2009-05-31 10:11:38

“I wish I would have known” about the souring market, she lamented.

What do you expect from somebody who doesn’t understand the pluperfect subjunctive?

Bwahahahahaha!

Comment by ahansen
2009-05-31 21:58:29

Snorted my zin, Mr. B.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:05:24

I never put any stock in the upper list price quoted in those range price listings. Only a UHS with zero knowledge of economics would believe that the upper end of a price range would make one bit of difference to a buyer whose incentive is to pay as little as possible for a home purchase. Further, how many sellers would refuse an offer, just because it happens to be above the upper end of the list price range?

Some stoopid UHS’s attribute the end of the last real estate bust to the introduction of range pricing. To which I say, BwaHaHaHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAAA!!!!

March 2005
Carlsbad Business Journal
Southern California Phenomenon
Tyson Lund
Real Estate Business Analyst

Next month, the starting gun will fire to signal the beginning of the 2nd quarter and the start of what is known in the real estate profession as the “summer selling season”. This is the time when more homeowners list their property for sale and more homebuyers purchase than any other time in the year. Historically, Carlsbad home-sellers have achieved the highest percentage of their asking price in April, May, and June. So as more homeowners race to prepare their home to sell in the coming months, one decision will be of paramount importance: where should I price my home?

Pricing On A Range

If you have followed the San Diego real estate market, it is likely you have seen a property utilizing the range-price strategy. A concept that started in Australia, yet made its west-coast debut in Carlsbad, the technique calls for a property to be sold using a low and a high price, while the seller entertains offers between the range. Last year, San Diego hit a milestone when over half of the properties sold in the county used a range price; roughly 56%.

Humble Beginnings

When the concept of range pricing was introduced in 1995, the real estate market was suffering from several years of slow sales. As available property outnumbered the number of potential buyers, Carlsbad home sellers looking to sell their property sooner than the 80 day average were faced with a tough decision: Should I price my home under market so it will sell sooner? In order to sell in 30 days, sellers in 1995 had to price their property below the market average of $250,000 for a 2200 sq.ft home and settle for a price of about $236,000 . When the first range priced home, a 2,280 sq.ft property in La Costa, sold in December of ‘95, it received full market value of $250,000. The home, however, sold in record time: 34 days.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:29:49

“Dam I thought it was the buyer who decides the price of a house.”

For fun and my further McEdumuckation, I am reading the Barron’s Real Estate Licensing Exams booklet, which I checked out of the local San Diego library branch. It has a glossary of real estate terms, including this entry:

MARKET VALUE / The highest price a buyer, willing but not compelled to buy, will pay, and the lowest price a seller, willing but not compelled to sell, will accept. Many conditions are assumed to exist.

Importance: In theory, property would sell for its market value.

In practice, the current housing market has a serious liquidity problem, as the bottom has dropped out from under demand at the mid-2005 price levels which sellers came to believe their homes were worth. Because sellers somehow missed the memo that demand has dried up with the credit crunch and recession and they also face the need to pay off loans whose size was set in line with pre-2005 market values, many sellers are only willing to sell at prices for which there are no buyers. Without substantial government transfers* from nonparties to real estate transactions used to bridge the bid-asked gap between buyers and sellers, the only possible direction such a standoff between willingness-to-accept and willingness-to-pay can resolve is downwards. Without government intervention, household budget constraints are binding on home sale prices.

*I include the injection of virtual printing press money under my definition of government transfers, as currency dilution is a politically viable way to stealthily tax nonparties to real estate transactions for the subsidy costs.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 13:56:26

My favorite part, and something I’d like to know more about is: “a former circus performer…”

What? Now THAT’S fascinating.

 
 
Comment by Kent from Waco
2009-05-31 07:45:17

Bear in mind that it does cost less to cool a house than to heat one. If it is 90 degrees, you’re only lowering the temp 15 degrees to be comfortable. If it is 30 degrees, you’ve got to raise it at least 35, depending on your comfort level. Of course, you’ve got to factor in various regions and how long the temps are at a certain level. For example, we’ve got about 5 months where temps hover between 85 and 95 with humidity. Up north, I think it is only about 3 months of bone-chilling temps.

This is nowhere close to being true. I spend much more cooling my house in Texas than I did heating it in Alaska. And here in Texas my power costs are 75% lower in winter than in summer. Air conditioners are FAR less efficient than heaters in modifying air temperature. A typical air conditioner uses several times more watts of electricity to cool a unit of air by 1 degree compared to what a heater uses to raise the temperature of a unit of air by the same degree. Not to mention the fact that heating houses can be done directly through gas combustion whereas air conditioning is done indirectly through electricity.

Finally, most American houses in hot climates are actually designed for winter insulation rather than summer cooling. To keep a house warm in winter you wrap it with a lot of insulation and seal it up good to prevent air flow and heat loss. That works well when you want to save on heating costs. And with all the windows, most American houses receive a decent amount of passive solar heating. But this is exactly the opposite of how you’d design a house for passive cooling. Traditional housing in hot desert climates comes much closer to the mark. Look at the housing in places like southern Greece, southern Italy, and the cities in North Africa. Massively thick masonry walls, everything is painted white to reflect the sun, especially the roofs, doorways and windows are designed to encourage air flow through the house, houses are close together or attached to minimize sun exposure. Exactly the opposite of what you see in say….suburban Phoenix.

Comment by yogurt
2009-05-31 08:33:28

A typical air conditioner uses several times more watts of electricity to cool a unit of air by 1 degree compared to what a heater uses to raise the temperature of a unit of air by the same degree.

That’s because an air conditioner is a heat pump that puts more energy outdoors than it takes from indoors (Carnot cycle). An electric heater, of course, puts exactly as much energy into the house as it uses.

If you used a heat pump for heating the discrepancy would be even greater, as the inefficiency works in your favor.

 
Comment by palmetto
2009-05-31 08:39:52

“This is nowhere close to being true.”

Of course, I’m no HVAC specialist, so let me re-phrase my original post as just your everyday, run of the mill bill-paying Floridian: I’ll take my power bill here in the Tampa Bay area of Florida over that of my siblings in their insulation-wrapped and sealed homes up in Connecticut. Any day.

Comment by rms
2009-05-31 14:04:07

+1 I can really connect with this statement.

 
 
Comment by NYCityBoy
2009-05-31 08:53:49

“Not to mention the fact that heating houses can be done directly through gas combustion”

My dad used to try that when I was a kid growing up in Minnesota. It nearly killed us on occasion. Taco night was always the night when we planned on having the most heat generated via gas combustion. Thank god we had a drafty house or we might all have died from his internal heating mechanism.

Comment by palmetto
2009-05-31 08:56:09

LMAO, NYCB! Thanks for the laugh. Made my Sunday.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:07:20

NYCityBoy —

Your humor and irreverence are missed around these parts…

Sincerely,

Professor Bear

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:11:35

It backfires whenever I try to heat our car that way, as the kids immediately roll down the windows and let in cold air…

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2009-05-31 09:18:56

Some trivia: The midwest settlers of a hundred-fifty years ago used to plant elms, maples or other large leaf-shedding tree on the south side of their farmhouses. The leafed-up trees would offer cooling shade to the farmhouse in the summertime, and they would shed their leaves in the wintertime and allow sunlight to penetrate and help keep their houses warm.

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 13:20:17

I just love that.
When driving out in the remote lands of Utarr you could always tell where someone homesteaded long ago. Endless wide acres of sagebrush and baked red soil, and then suddenly a cluster of giant cottonwoods rustling in the hot wind and the cloudless blue sky. Then when you approach them you see that they stand over a jumbled up pile of stones that used to be a foundation, with a gnarled lilac bush next to where the front door once was.

Comment by robiscrazy
2009-05-31 14:37:03

Thanks to you and Lost my urge to road trip again in Utah is peaking. Went 2 years ago with my uncle to Zion National Park and Bryce Canyon. Only spent a few days at each. Seems there’s so much more to see in Utah. Lost has some good photos on YouTube.

Oly, your post listing the collection DID finally show up. My reply disappeared. I’ve no dies for 25 ACP so no reloads for the Raven. The Papoose I think is 22 LR, a round comprised of a single use rimfire case and not reloadable. I might have reloading supplies/equipment for the black greasy smelling thing depending on caliber.

You’ve got some fun toys. Pitty the fool that ever messes with you.

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Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 16:04:44

You’ve got some fun toys. Pitty the fool that ever messes with you.

That’s what Bigfoot said, when I creased his pointy ape-man noggin with some pepper. But IIIII said, “Well, then, quit lurkin’ in the garden shed, ya silly anthropoid! I thought you was fondling the lawn-mower yet again, and I just can’t have that.”

Hahahaha! :lol:

Awwww… you’re just being generous, anyway. You have no reload capacity for my guns because your guns are real guns.
But the problem is, I can’t shoot a real gun regularly, because it hurts my stick-bug girly arms. Therefore I’ll never practice with it, so how will I get to know it, and know how it’ll shoot?
Last Christmas I went shooting in the west desert with my brothers, with their ‘real’ guns, and the next day my arms was nothing but putty. I mean, seriously. I couldn’t even administer a helpful b*tch-slap when it was needed. Sigh.
(Of course I didn’t confess my weakness. I pretended I LIKED having my arms hanging down like brutalized noodles, and picking up forks with my toes and so forth.)

And you know what? In the spirit of confession— which you inspire in me today— the main reason I got the Marlin Papoose was because I thought the name was cute. That’s worse than having twig arms! Sigh again!

…Oh, but you remind me, I was going to go track down the real gun. Hmmm.

 
Comment by robiscrazy
2009-05-31 16:40:37

Btw….shooting out the window into the dark forest without a visible target is usually considered poor firearms etiquette. Bigfoot might just by passing by the shed on the way to dig a geoduck.

Nice thing about a Raven is you can stuff it in a pocket or a bra and no one will know you have it. Try that with a “real gun”.

Is your Papoose a backpack version that breaks down? I have a similar item called an AR-7.

Sorry to hear about the brutalized noodles. That makes the experience of target practice not so fun. Kind of like the time I employed a “fitness expert” to help me setup a weightlifting routine. The first day we worked together and he pushed me hard! Next two days my arms were permanently locked at a 90 degree angle and unusable.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 19:27:31

Bigfoot might just by passing by the shed on the way to dig a geoduck.

Possibly, possibly…but it’s more likely he’s headed over to molest the lawn-mower again. That Bigfoot! Jeeze.
And, oh, I’ve heard about this ‘etiquette’ of which you speak, but in my situation I believe it to be excusable to just sort of shoot outt’n the window.
See, when I hear a noise if I were to wait for a target to present itself once I yanked open the window, then I’d get chilly and maybe catch a cold hanging around waiting. Oh, no!
Besides, I’m in the woods. I won’t accidentally snuff a wandering insomniac grandpa—unless he’s a seriously committed sleep-walker— and those trees can probably dodge. They’re cunning.

Nice thing about a Raven is you can stuff it in a pocket or a bra and no one will know you have it.

I thought so, too, once, but it turns out you can see it in a bra. At least in my bra. I also learned that it’ll bounce out when you run up the hill, or even when you’re just standing there conversing with a tribal game-warden or random neighbor, it’ll choose that moment to pop out your bra and slither down your stomach and fall out the bottom of your shirt and land on your feet, and then there’s an awkward pause in the conversation.
Yes, really!
But I’m going to eat some cubes of butter, because that way I can grow some b00bs, and they can be like catchers-mitts and keep the Raven in place, and also like oven-mitts, keeping it nice and cozy. Everyone will be happy, then! Except for Bigfoot.

Is your Papoose a backpack version that breaks down? I have a similar item called an AR-7.

Yes! It is! Tell me about this ‘AR-7′.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-05-31 19:59:47

Next two days my arms were permanently locked at a 90 degree angle and unusable.

That’s terrible! Because then you couldn’t even beat him up as a punishment! What happened then? Did you become pals, like Mr. Miyagi and the Karate Kid?

In my last post I forgot to tell you about the last time I effectively used my Raven, which was when I shot a noisy fire-alarm and sent it on to live with Sweet Baby Jeebus.

 
Comment by robiscrazy
2009-05-31 21:41:13

Holy cow I’m laughing sooooo…. hard! Please tell me your firearm didn’t REALLY pop out in the middle of talking to your neighbor or the game warden? Just skip the butter and get a holster, it will be better for your health.

Were there any witnesses to the alarmicide when you plugged the noisy thing?

Why does Sasquatch have a thing for your lawn mower?

AR-7 is almost identical to the Papoose. Barrel screws off for breakdown. Uses same ammunition. Fun for plinking at cans or my favorite….empty white plastic pill/vitamin bottles ’cause they bounce way high in the air sometimes when you hit them.

Didn’t lift weights for a year after the frozen arm incident. Needless to say I didn’t sand his floors, paint his fence, or wash his cars.

 
Comment by CA renter
2009-06-01 04:11:12

Oh Lord, Oly! Please write a book for us! :)

Had to forward that post of yours to my husband so he could get a good laugh, too. Thanks for all your delightfully colorful posts!

 
 
 
Comment by CA renter
2009-06-01 04:06:16

Comment by combotechie
2009-05-31 09:18:56
Some trivia: The midwest settlers of a hundred-fifty years ago used to plant elms, maples or other large leaf-shedding tree on the south side of their farmhouses. The leafed-up trees would offer cooling shade to the farmhouse in the summertime, and they would shed their leaves in the wintertime and allow sunlight to penetrate and help keep their houses warm.

—————————

The very best way to contol a house’s temperature, IMHO.

We have some lovely maples and a gorgeous coral tree surrounding our rental. Some of our neighbors have asked us to have them cut down, “because of all the leaves…what a mess they make”!

Fortunately, we have control over our trees. Unfortunately, we don’t control our neighbors’ trees. We’ve had at least six or seven beautiful trees cut down around us just in the five years we’ve lived here. Very sad, and so very short-sighted.

 
 
Comment by cactus
2009-05-31 10:58:05

“Exactly the opposite of what you see in say….suburban Phoenix.”

With all the big windows facing west with dark screen covers,

yea is lame

 
Comment by Anon In DC
2009-05-31 11:44:54

If I ever build my own house (in the Virginia countryside) it will be concrete block with brick veneer. No AC needed. Many of the old colonial houses - the all brick ones - are naturally cooled. They do have thick walls. The exterior walls are three and four bricks thick sometimes thicker.

Comment by B. Durbin
2009-05-31 18:16:24

My parents’ cinderblock house has always had a 15-25 degree cooling advantage in summer– which is especially good as they only got AC this year (as part of replacing the 50-year-old heating system; the heating guys were astonished because they’d never seen a system so old that was still working! It ate thermostats, though.)

 
 
Comment by in Colorado
2009-05-31 12:17:02

It also costs more to cool our house in Summer than to heat it during winter.

 
 
Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 07:49:04

REO depts have slashed their prices once again. One on my watch list has been smacked down 25% in one shot. And it’s only been listed for 6 weeks.

Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 08:03:11

Name: MOURAO ADALBERTO &
Mailing Address: 12820 82ND LN N
WEST PALM BEACH FL 33412 2201

Sales Information
Sales Date Book/Page Price Sale Type Owner
Sep-2006 20914/0276 $460,000 WARRANTY DEED MOURAO ADALBERTO &
May-2005 18589/0625 $420,000 WARRANTY DEED MORAES ABEL JR
Nov-2002 14423/1081 $218,000 WARRANTY DEED REHL WALTER V &

Now
12820 N 82 Ln West Palm Beach, FL 33412 $186,000 $820 per month | Personalize this estimate | Check local mortgage rates 4 Bed, 2 Bath | 2,740 Sq Ft | MLS ID #F992589 | Refreshed 7 minutes ago

Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 08:10:30

Jeff,

Take a look at yesterdays bits bucket. A guy named “Edward” posted some realtor-puke sounding crapola. It needs to be verified.

Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 10:31:54

Exeter

Edward is on the west coast and I am on the east in Jupiter Fl. but I can`t imagine there is a huge difference. within 10 miles of my zip 33458 there are 7075 properties 2/2 and up for sale. Since 5/21/09 Realtytrac has listed 46 pre- foreclosures in my zip 33458, I know of 5 houses that have been empty for almost a year and foreclosed on that never have shown up on Realtytrac. I don`t see how their inventory could be down to 3 months and I think he vastly underestimates the foreclosures to come.

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Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 18:07:25

Some banks say that they have a plan for hurricanes; JP Morgan Chase says it will use property management companies and bank field employees to make sure properties are storm-ready. And if the homes are damaged or destroyed during a storm, said Michael Fusco, a spokesman for JP Morgan Chase, the bank “acts just like a homeowner” and will file an insurance claim.

Debora Blume, a spokeswoman for Wells Fargo Bank, said her company hires local real estate agents who have been assigned to market bank-owned properties to secure homes against hurricane damage.

But one real estate agent in the Fort Myers area said the process of putting the maintenance work out to bid and then getting approval from the bank that owns the property might not be workable as a storm bears down.

“During a hurricane, we need to get out of town, not wait for approval for funding to secure a building,” said Suzanne Sherer, president of the Realtors Association of Greater Fort Myers and the Beaches. “I won’t have time to get a bid from a handyman.”

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Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 18:12:38

AP IMPACT: Foreclosures add to hurricane hazards

By TAMARA LUSH
Associated Press Writer

LEHIGH ACRES, Fla. (AP) — Mike Manikchand points toward his neighbors - a half-dozen empty, foreclosed-upon homes, sitting on weed-strewn yards - and he wonders: What will happen if a hurricane slams into southwest Florida this year?

His simple answer: “A lot of these places will get destroyed.”

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Comment by cereal
2009-05-31 07:56:06

Zip code 90094 is the Playa Vista Development in West L.A. that ruined the old wetlands. They finished a third of it and quit. All the units were built and sold from 2003 through 2006/7. Using Zillow for sales history and ZIP for current listings I see that units are not selling even at 100 - 300k below the original sales price.

I can guess that it’s more of the same with all the Marina Towers just a mile north.

Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 08:31:09

Is this the development right below Loyola Marymount University ??

Comment by cereal
2009-05-31 10:36:33

yes. below LMU

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-05-31 08:42:12

From Muggy`s arcticle

“Does this mean we’ve witnessed the Rise and Fall of the Sun Belt? Will those who swept into these Miracle-Gro states get swept out just as quickly, leaving behind a sprawl of hollow houses, cul-de-sac moonscapes and mosquito-infested pools — the stucco ghettos of the 21st century?”

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2009-05-31 08:11:59

In Heartland Death, Traces of Heroin’s Spread

Federal officials now consider the cartels the greatest organized crime threat to the United States. Officials say the groups are taking over heroin distribution from Colombians and Dominicans and making new inroads across the country, pushing a powerful form of heroin grown and processed in Mexico known as “black tar” for its dark color and sticky texture.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/31/us/31border.html?ref=todayspaper

Comment by bink
2009-05-31 10:07:08

From the Chinese and their opium dens to the Mexican immigrants and their heroin trafficking.. some things never change. Looks like someone wants some additional federal funding. Fear mongering from the “war on drugs” never gets old.

Comment by scdave
2009-05-31 10:28:38

Fear mongering from the “war on drugs” never gets old ??

Yep…Best business plan going…Sell the fear…

 
Comment by ahansen
2009-05-31 12:57:26

Just FYI, opium use is punishable by death in PRC, though a few places in Malaysia and Singapore still grant amnesty to “grandfathers.” Trafficking is also a capital crime.

Mexican cartels? A different story. Legalize and tax marijuana in the US and their influence will be significantly diluted as backyard growers saturate the market. Heroin is a niche drug that competes with Oxycontin–hence classified in the province of The Bad Guys and The Terra-ists.

Comment by bink
2009-05-31 15:41:43

The truly ridiculous part of the article is the excuse given for the son to have started taking heroin. He was already addicted to prescription painkillers for a back injury but found the heroin cheaper. Those horrible Mexicans manage to sneak drugs over a path thousands of miles long using drug mules and murderous rampages.. and it’s still cheaper than oxycontin.

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Comment by Jane Pace
2009-05-31 08:38:37

well Ben he is a renter and you know people who rent are weird……

myself being a pretty weird guy

what with no mortgage and no credit card debt and
actual savings i am a freak
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I’m not sure if this got posted so excuse if it was twice.

I am also a freak: no mortgage or credit card debt and actual savings. And I am a homeonwer. And I can do as I please with my home without answering to a landlord.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 10:55:06

Our landlord answers to us. And they also pay our property taxes, HOA dues, insurance, mortgage interest (on a loan in excess of the market value of the home where we live) and bear the capital loss of crashing market values. Anyone who would rather own than rent under these conditions is certainly welcome to do so…

Comment by Zombie Banks
2009-05-31 11:23:09

Water alert: So cal
my rental is a grass wreck. the gardener just upped the timer of 9 stations, 8 mins day…everyday.
i changed it back. lawn is ancient w/o topsoil.
yes landlord master, i don’t need daily showers!

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:57:39

Your landlord may be single-handedly saving the Bay delta smelt from extinction…

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Comment by Kent from Waco
2009-05-31 09:04:21

“Not to mention the fact that heating houses can be done directly through gas combustion”

My dad used to try that when I was a kid growing up in Minnesota. It nearly killed us on occasion. Taco night was always the night when we planned on having the most heat generated via gas combustion. Thank god we had a drafty house or we might all have died from his internal heating mechanism.

He he….

But actually the point is valid. If you heat your house by gas, close to 100% of the joules produced by the combustion of the natural gas in your heater are converted into heat inside your house.

By contrast, if you cool your house by electricity what actually happens is that coal is burned in a remote powerplant (must sunbelt cities receive electricity from coal) and the heat from that coal drives turbines that generate electricty. The electricty is converted from DC to AC and shipped hundreds of miles through powerlines at extremely high voltage until it finally reaches your neighborhood where the voltage is scaled back down and the electricty is used to drive your air conditioner. Power is lost every step of the way meaning that only a small fraction of the energy contained in a lb of coal is used to cool your house compared to practically all the energy in a lb of natural gas being used to heat your house.

Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 11:06:52

Most houses today put the gas furnace in the garage to prevent CO getting stuck inside the living spaces. A heat exchanger is used to heat the recycling air inside the house. This heat exchanger is less than 100% efficient, although modern models are getting better. Mine is rated at 80% efficiency, although for a lot more money you can get one rated at 90% efficiency.

The wasted heat isn’t a total writeoff. My garage never gets below freezing even when it’s about 10 deg. F outside.

Comment by in Colorado
2009-05-31 12:18:15

Not out here. The furnaces are in the basement, with air intakes from outside.

 
 
Comment by exeter
2009-05-31 15:14:36

Vent free gas combustion systems are indeed quite efficient but they are space heating applications only. No distribution and they are small in capacity for the most part. I’m not aware of any room vented systems exceeding 30k BTU’s.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 11:53:48

Something new has just started around our hood: Homes with UHS signs are posted out front with a “FOR LEASE” sticker appended. I drove past one of these yesterday and noticed “FOR LEASE” replaced by a “SOLD” sticker. Saw the owner today, whom I happen to know, and asked him about the sale. He said the UHS did not have any signs that said “LEASED” or “RENTED,” so they just went with the “SOLD” sign instead.

Is this legal? I believe the common understanding in real estate is that “SOLD” and “RENTED” are mutually exclusive statuses, which suggests the “SOLD” sign amounts to deceptive advertising.

Comment by Blue Skye
2009-05-31 13:46:55

I fail to see what you find abnormal about deceptive real estate advertizing.

Comment by DennisN
2009-05-31 14:53:56

There’s a house for sale down my block. It’s been on the market for most of a year now, but the lawn sign still proclaims “Just Listed”. ;)

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:24:25

I saw nothing whatever abnormal about it. What I wanted to know is whether it is illegal.

 
 
 
Comment by AnonyRuss
2009-05-31 12:23:31

Arizona realtor acknowledges coming wave of foreclosures:

“We’ve been told [by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] that there are thousands and thousands of foreclosures in the pipeline,” said Darrah Dremler, an agent with Coldwell Banker Excel Realty who specializes in foreclosure sales. “Banks are starting to price things a lot lower to clean out their inventory before this big rush hits.”

“Although sales rose, she said it’s false hope given the number of foreclosures in the pipeline.
“What we’re hearing is that it will be August, September when they would hit the market,” Dremler said.
And that’s just the first wave, she said. Another wave is likely by early next year.”

http://tinyurl.com/nwf4cu

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:23:23

Parade Magazine
Intelligence Report
Is Your Property Tax Too High?

Across America, home values have plunged, but property taxes—the tax homeowners pay based on their homes’ assessed value—have not.

“Nationwide, we have properties that may be overassessed by as much as 60%,” says Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union, a watchdog group in Washington, D.C. Since those figures are based on studies conducted before the housing bubble burst, it’s likely that even more homeowners are paying too much property tax today. “Many localities are still charging taxes based on the housing-boom values of a few years ago,” Sepp explains.

 
Comment by milkcrate
2009-05-31 15:23:57

You have a good library, Dennis. For another damning account of the consequences of transforming parched lands, we might also recommend “Cadillac Desert” by the late Marc Reisner. Takes you deep inside the BLM.
The following points also could be added to PB’s cotton complaints:
– The crop is one of the most intensive users of restricted use pesticides in the nation.
– Aerial applicators often miss, despite the best of intentions, and scorch other crops instead, leading to lawsuits and unknown health questions.
– The federal water subsidy gets the United States into trouble abroad as it tries to argue under the WTO that subsidies should be withdrawn or reduced. A UC Davis ag economist pointed this out and nearly got his head handed to him; tenure had saved him, but that was three or four years ago.
– The USDA support price distorts the world price, and developing nations in Africa can not grow and export to compete effectively, embedding poverty in those nations.
– Water for cotton could easily, from a practical point of view, not a political one, be diverted from the fiber to food - namely almond orchards which are being abandoned, almonds a crop not long ago that was in the enviable position of seeing increased bearing acreage and increased prices. (That happens once in a dusty moon.)

A case could be made to cut off rice farmers in California, too, because of excessive water use. But groups such as Ducks Unlimited wield power in congress, and they like to shoot birdies in soggy wet fields.

Alfalfa is another story. A huge water consumer. But the dynamics there are a little different, since nearly all the alfalfa goes for dairy cow feed, which turns the water into a liquid which is consumed.

I digress.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:40:26

“A UC Davis ag economist pointed this out and nearly got his head handed to him; tenure had saved him, but that was three or four years ago.”

Fortunately, I know enough about ag economics to speak to this issue, but I am not up for tenure in an ag econ department, so don’t have to worry too much about anyone handing me my head, either :-)

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:41:52

“– The USDA support price distorts the world price, and developing nations in Africa can not grow and export to compete effectively, embedding poverty in those nations.”

This brings to mind another mindless ag subsidy — for sugar, which could be grown more cost effectively in third world countries that could really use the income, rather than in Florida, which could use lots more environmental protection against the sugar growers.

Comment by pismoclam
2009-05-31 19:12:27

How about the Ethenol tax of $0.54 per gal on Brazil imports?The libs in the midwest — but I digress.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-05-31 21:32:29

Yeah, that trade is a corn maze, too.

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Comment by milkcrate
2009-05-31 15:29:42

It was supposed to be a happy piano concert, about 120 gathered in a concert room at a local piano store today. Chopin. Sonatinas. Numbers entitled “Beach Boogie” for the younger fingers.
Here’s the bubble connection.
Host, a piano sales guy, makes usual intro remarks. Then proceeds to tell us about a bankruptcy at a music store in Bakersfield, where his company had some inventory. So if there was ever a good time to buy a Yamaha baby grand, he says, this is it.
I recall the Bakersfield store. It did swimmingly when subdivisions such as Seven Oaks were increasing in “value” by $10,000 a month a couple years ago. I lived nearby, and remember the equity coming out of those homes and into pianos, cars, and so on.
I wish the man talking about bankruptcy could have toned it down a little. He sounded like the Grim Reaper with a Deal.
We just wanted to hear the little people play.

 
Comment by drumminj
2009-05-31 15:32:59

Posting late in the day, but wanted to put this up for the weekend-warriors.

I put together a user guide for my Firefox extension. You can access it here.

The main page for the extension is http://home.avvanta.com/~drumminj/joshuatree.html

It’s just a quick pass, so let me know if anything remains unclear.

Thanks.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:38:34

Today’s DOONESBURY (by Garry Trudeau) manages to skewer the bankers through the lens of religion:

SAM: Reverend Sloan, I’ve been noticing something about the readings in church…

REV SLOAN: What’s that, Sam?

SAM: Well, whenever you read from the old testament, God is always crabby and snarky to everyone…But the new testament isn’t about anger at all — it’s about love. God’s only Son is this total pacifist — he wouldn’t harm a flea. He’s just this humble dude who’s mellow to everyone — even the Romans! He only really snaps once, right?

SAM’S MOM: With who, honey?

SAM: The moneylenders, mom!

SAM’S MOM: Oh, right. What is it about moneylenders?

REV SLOAN: They do seem to set people off, don’t they?

Comment by Blano
2009-05-31 16:11:49

Too bad that by making a point Trudeau gets the story wrong…….nothing new there though.

The problem wasn’t WHAT they were……it’s WHERE they were.

They weren’t the only ones He snapped at either.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:27:37

Are you saying it is OK for lenders to screw others, provided they don’t operate out of a temple?

Comment by packman
2009-05-31 21:00:04

The moneychangers in the temple weren’t lenders, but currency changers. Also the item they were specifically screwing people on was making a profit specifically on their religious donations, since only Jewish and Tyrian money was accepted, so Roman and Greek money had to be exchanged for those. Thus there isn’t any implication that that they were screwing anyone outside of that context.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:10:56

OK — point taken, and an interesting one it is. The currency change du juor must not have seemed like a suitable use of temple grounds, but it certainly would have served a useful purpose, and it was not lending. Perhaps the probably was that they had a monopoly on exchange rates.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:44:46

Given they are going to only stay in bankruptcy for a couple of months, is it fair to say the main purpose served by GM bankruptcy will be to screw over certain creditors and corporate owners?

Financial Times
GM to file for Chapter 11 protection

By Bernard Simon in Toronto, John Reed in London and Julie MacIntosh in New York

Published: May 31 2009 16:43 | Last updated: May 31 2009 23:02

General Motors will file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in New York on Monday in a humiliating fall from grace for a symbol of America’s industrial might and the world’s biggest carmaker for much of the 20th century.

Prior to the filing, which will mark the largest bankruptcy of an industrial business in history, President Barack Obama and Fritz Henderson, GM’s chief executive, will seek to reassure workers, suppliers, dealers and car buyers that a leaner, reinvigorated GM will emerge from a court-supervised restructuring.

GM employs 230,000 people globally, building more than 20,000 vehicles a day. More than 1m Americans depend on it for healthcare and retirement benefits.

GM will say that it aims to emerge from Chapter 11 by August 1, shorn of much of its debt, four of its eight brands, and surplus plants and dealers.

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2009-05-31 18:07:50

That’s the role of ANY bankruptcy.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:25:34

OK, but don’t failed companies normally cease and desist after declaring BK?

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:48:03

Too-big-to-fail has roots that go back over half a century. The most useful purpose served by the GM bankruptcy may be that it sends a powerful signal that too-big-to-fail bailouts may soon recede into the historical dustbin of failed economic policies.

Financial Times
General Motors holds a mirror up to America
By Robert Reich
Published: May 31 2009 21:03 | Last updated: May 31 2009 21:03

As president of General Motors when Eisenhower tapped him to become secretary of defence in 1953, “Engine Charlie” Wilson voiced at his Senate confirmation hearing what was then the conventional view. When asked whether he could make a decision in the interest of the US that was adverse to the interest of GM, he said he could.

Then he reassured them that such a conflict would never arise. “I cannot conceive of one because for years I thought what was good for our country was good for General Motors, and vice versa. Our company is too big. It goes with the welfare of the country.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 15:50:34

We have sure come a long way from the end of the cold war, now that our Treasury Secretary is holding hands and singing Kumbaya with communist leaders.

Financial Times
US and China eye economic co-ordination
By Krishna Guha in Washington and Geoff Dyer
Published: May 31 2009 18:44 | Last updated: May 31 2009 18:44

Tim Geithner, US Treasury secretary, begins two days of top-level economic talks in Beijing on Monday amid a tightening focus on the need for the US and China to co-ordinate their exit strategies from the financial crisis.

With the US and China expected to lead the world out of recession, much rests on their ability to manage financial, trade and currency tensions while laying out mutually consistent frameworks for recovery.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:22:39

Fed = toxic mortgage debt bagholder of last resort

Wall Street Journal

* CREDIT MARKETS
* JUNE 1, 2009

Fed Mortgage Efforts Prove Costly

Securities Purchases ‘Under Water,’ Seem to Have Transitory Effect on Rates

By LIZ RAPPAPORT

The U.S. Federal Reserve’s program to keep mortgage rates low by buying securities and Treasury bonds so far has been costly and seems to be having a fleeting impact.

An analysis of the timing of the Fed’s purchases of mortgage-backed securities by J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. shows the Fed is “under water” on its portfolio by about 10%, and it would have to take about $5 billion in losses if it were to mark its portfolio to the market.

Since last autumn, the Fed has purchased more than $480 billion, out of an allowance of $1.25 trillion, in mortgage-backed securities and more than $130 billion, of $300 billion, in Treasury bonds to help keep mortgage rates low. Keeping rates low lets people refinance their mortgages to reduce payments and stay in their homes. It also encourages them to consider snapping up bargains in the still-ailing housing market. Many analysts believe the Fed plans to hold these securities until they mature in 10 years or so, with no plans to sell them into the market, so the losses will probably never be realized.

The central bank owns the majority of securities sold in 2009, with interest payments of 4%, 4.5% and 5%, according to J.P. Morgan’s research. As interest rates rise, the value of these securities falls because new bonds are backed with higher-interest mortgage loans and thus pay higher coupons.

The Fed has spent about $2,500 per borrower, by J.P. Morgan’s analysis — more than it costs a typical mortgage borrower to refinance their debt. Higher fees and adjustments based on a borrower’s credit score or home’s value have been an impediment to borrowers looking to refinance a mortgage, damping the refinancing wave the Fed hoped for, analysts say.

The Fed’s purchases have enabled about two million borrowers to refinance who otherwise wouldn’t have been able to, J.P. Morgan estimates.

In addition to spending at a rapid clip, the Fed is confronting stronger resistance in the bond markets that set consumer rates as investors worry about inflation, the U.S. budget deficit and the practice of buying debt to stimulate the economy and keep interest rates down, called quantitative easing.

“The Fed’s purchases have had only a transitory impact,” said Thomas Atteberry, a partner and portfolio manager at First Pacific Advisors LLC.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:24:35

Is anyone planning to analyze how much in excess of the market value of the Fed-purchased MBS was implicitly paid to Megabank, Inc to take toxic assets off their balance sheets?

 
Comment by packman
2009-05-31 19:24:08

So who exactly does the Fed turn to when they need a bailout?

Wait… never mind. That’s kind of like asking what kind of sentence a judge would give himself in his own murder trial.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:07:09

“So who exactly does the Fed turn to when they need a bailout?”

Just a guess: The IMF?

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:35:08

Wall Street Journal
* FOREIGN EXCHANGE
* JUNE 1, 2009

Dollar’s Weakness Likely to Continue

By DAN MOLINSKI and RIVA FROYMOVICH

After three months of losses for the U.S. dollar against the euro, what’s one more week?

Traders say the dollar, which fell to its lowest level this year on Friday, is likely to continue to trend lower this week as investors sift through a number of key data reports, as well as news from the European Central Bank policy meeting, and react to another round of Federal Reserve Treasury purchases.

The bond purchases may be the key to the dollar’s performance in the first part of the week, as they could drive down yields, particularly as the Treasury won’t have any note sales this week.

With market rates falling, inflation fears will come to the fore again.

Not that the dollar’s chances for a bounce are nil.

“The dollar-positive scenario comes if the Fed allows a bond market selloff to undermine housing,” said John Normand, a foreign-exchange analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase. “But officials are unlikely to take this gamble so early in the recovery,” Mr. Normand said.

Ultimately, the most vulnerable currency in the near term is the one that is most exposed to quantitative easing.

Given the Fed’s commitments on asset purchases, the dollar fits the bill, which will give the euro room to advance after hitting $1.4168 Friday, a level unseen since December.

Analysts say the euro could trade between $1.38 and $1.43 this week.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 18:39:41

‘“The dollar-positive scenario comes if the Fed allows a bond market selloff to undermine housing,” said John Normand, a foreign-exchange analyst at J.P. Morgan Chase. “But officials are unlikely to take this gamble so early in the recovery,” Mr. Normand said.’

This is the money quote in the article.

Translation: Ultimately, saving the dollar would require the Fed pulling a Volcker and chasing l-t interest rates up as high as necessary to avoid a currency collapse (I believe the l-t T-bond yield topped out somewhere north of 14 percent in the early 1980s episode). But doing so now would exacerbate the ongoing real estate price avalanche.

Sounds like the Fed faces a Catch-22 situation…

Comment by packman
2009-05-31 20:06:57

Yep. For about two months now my constant mantra has been - rock and a hard place for the Fed. TBT + GLD combo has been good to me. I’m almost sure they’ll still be good for some time to come.

There’s only so much debt out there the markets can absorb, and the sponge is just getting too full. Beyond that, one of three things can happen:

A. Buying debt gets really cheap (i.e. yields up), or
B. Fed creates new sponges to sop up debt (prints money), or
C. Both A and B

Right now C is the answer.

The question in my mind is now - have we reached the point of no return? Doing these actions has diminishing returns. If A happens then the markets crash further; worsening the debt even more on the public side as the private side economy goes belly-up. Doing B though kills private demand for public debt, since its a poor inflation hedge (e.g. see rumblings from China).

At what point do the diminishing returns hit 0, and a “reset” on the economy as a whole become inevitable?

 
 
 
Comment by B. Durbin
2009-05-31 18:35:53

Further updates on the status of our new place:

Neighbor down the street introduced himself today. Typical older guy who is just a little bit nosy (in the “well, those are public records” kind of sense.) Former owners of the house were upside down to the tune of $300-$400K… which is interesting, given that they bought it for about $280K. Neighbor confirmed that they refi’d several times. Then he said, “You got a good price.”

Turns out they publish home sales in the newspaper. I never bothered with the real estate section enough to find that out.

Also spoke with a former (rental) neighbor who is purchasing in our neighborhood. The house he’s buying is the very first one we saw, and rejected because it had too much work to do. But his description didn’t match… turns out there was an interim owner, a contractor, who cleaned up the place, re-floored, re-did the kitchen, etc. But given the price, that contractor didn’t make a cent, and probably lost money on the deal.

Anyway, we’re finally moved. We’ll get internet later this week (posting from work computer.) Tech week is this week; I’m in Ruddigore. Ditzy bridesmaid in the first act; tenor in the second. Second act has one of the best pieces of Gilbert & Sullivan ever, at least when played by a real orchestra instead of rehearsal piano. Yeah. :)

 
Comment by packman
2009-05-31 19:27:37

Looks like tomorrow’s the day for GM.

Funny how “bankruptcy” has become so meaningless lately. I remember as a kid it was pretty much synonymous with “out of business”. Now it’s just another fun financial tool for extracting money from investors.

Capitalism go bye-bye.

 
Comment by milkcrate
2009-05-31 21:27:28

Sugar will return to Cuba, some day, for better or worse.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-05-31 21:28:33

Prev. a response to PB. Server had its way with it.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 21:38:31

For better for both the U.S. and Cuba, as Cuba has a comparitive advantage in sugar production.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:29:05

Here is a good reference to check out whenever you find the time. Regarding his ‘topic,’ it seems as though we already have an overwhelming consensus opinion on the answer by now. Circumstances have drowned out the Fed leaderships’ attempts to articulate their own positions. (Of course, Poole is long gone by now…)

Market Bailouts and the “Fed Put”
William Poole

This article was originally presented as a speech at the Cato Institute, Washington, D.C., November 30, 2007.

Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis Review, March/April 2008, 90(2), pp. 65-73.

Federal Reserve policy actions starting this past August to temper strains in financial markets have generated considerable
commentary, some of which reflect concerns that policy action in such circumstances creates moral hazard. The issue is extremely important, and, given that it is so current, this is a good time to reflect in general
on the Fed’s reactions to financial market developments. The concern over moral hazard is that monetary policy action to alleviate financial
distress may complicate policy in the future, by encouraging risky investing in the securities markets. There are so few instances of market turmoil similar to the current situation that I’ll broaden
the analysis to include significant stock market declines. Doing so gives us a substantial sample to discuss. Thus, my topic is whether Federal
Reserve policy responses to financial market developments should be regarded as “bailing out” market participants and creating moral hazard
by doing so.

William Poole is president of the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. The author appreciates comments provided by his colleagues at the
Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. The views expressed are the author’s and do not necessarily reflect official positions of the Federal
Reserve System.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:44:07

Please, no, not another new era!

New Era in Autos as GM Set for Bankruptcy
GM will file for Chapter 11 bankruptcy early Monday, marking the humbling of an American icon that once dominated the industry and setting up a high-stakes gamble for taxpayers.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:46:17

Wall Street Journal

* JUNE 1, 2009

Black Swan Fund Makes a Big Bet on Inflation

By SCOTT PATTERSON

A hedge fund firm that reaped huge rewards betting against the market last year is about to open a fund premised on another wager: that the massive stimulus efforts of global governments will lead to hyperinflation.

The firm, Universa Investments L.P., is known for its ties to gloomy investor Nassim Nicholas Taleb, author of the 2007 bestseller “The Black Swan,” which describes the impact of extreme events on the world and financial markets.

Funds run by Universa, which is managed and owned by Mr. Taleb’s long-time collaborator Mark Spitznagel, last year gained more than 100% thanks to its bearish bets. Universa now runs about $6 billion, up from the $300 million it began with in January 2007. Earlier this year, Mr. Spitznagel closed several funds to new investors.

Unlike last year’s sudden market implosion, inflation isn’t an unimaginable event that few currently anticipate. In fact, many fear inflation right now amid government efforts to goose the economy. Universa’s bet, however, is that inflation will reach levels few expect.

By opening the inflation fund, Universa is trying to capitalize on a wave of investor demand for its products, which when they’re right can protect investors from extreme market moves.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:48:00

Wall Street Journal
* ROI
* MAY 31, 2009, 7:35 P.M. ET

Low Mortgage Rates Are Going, Going…

Looking to refinance? If you haven’t locked in, you may already be too late.

By BRETT ARENDS

If you’re looking for a new 30-year mortgage, last week’s events from the financial markets carry a very simple message: Get ‘em cheap while you still can.

Rates on conforming 30-year loans jumped dramatically in just a few days, ending the week at an average of 5.27% according to Bankrate.com. That’s still OK by historic standards, but it’s a jump from the levels seen just a few weeks ago, when you could get loans at 4.75% or below.

The underlying cause isn’t hard to find. Rising government debts, and burgeoning hopes of an economic recovery, are pushing up long-term interest rates on government debt. The yield on the 10-Year Treasury, which was barely 2% near the end of last year, surged to 3.67% late last week before settling back slightly. And that, in turn, pushes up rates on other long-term loans.

What does this mean for you?

This surge in mortgage rates, if it continues, is ominous news all around. It’s bad for those trying to refinance an existing mortgage, those looking to buy a new home, and those looking to sell their home. It may also be bad for the stock market, and maybe even for the dollar, too. More on that later.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-05-31 22:50:26

Those green shoots are a fading memory on the eve of GM’s bankruptcy filing.

Nation’s new-car love affair cooling
Recession reshapes market of the future
By Micheline Maynard
NEW YORK TIMES NEWS SERVICE
2:00 a.m. May 31, 2009

DETROIT – For all the drastic cuts and financial overhauls that are meant to secure a future for General Motors and Chrysler, their prospects in coming years will be determined more by the answer to a simple question: Can American drivers live without that new-car smell?

In recent years, Americans appeared to be hooked on it and took advantage of home-equity loans, easy credit and cheap, short-term lease deals to send new-car sales to levels of more than 17 million a year.

Now the market has collapsed by 46 percent to below 10 million, as people are making do with the cars they have, leaving the industry to debate – and worry – about what the new normal will be once the recession ends.

Some say the downturn is temporary and that sales will spring back in a few years. Others believe Americans will rethink whether they need so many cars, particularly new ones.

The answer will be important to the Obama administration as it prepares to put GM into bankruptcy tomorrow. After the company emerges from bankruptcy, the federal government will own about 70 percent of it, in return for $50 billion in taxpayer aid. GM has already received about $20 billion in federal help.

The Treasury Department’s advisers, who initially expected auto sales to pick up late next year, now foresee no jump in demand this year or in 2010. And even five years out, they expect annual sales to be about 15 million, still well below the peaks of this decade.

Making predictions is tricky in this economy. The market has grown more bleak, and worst-case scenarios drafted only months ago are becoming reality.

If sales don’t recover, the Treasury will have to provide more financial support for GM and for Chrysler, which has received about $10 billion in federal aid, before they can stand on their own and the government can divest its shares.

 
Comment by ex-Wreck
2009-05-31 23:06:07

Mel Gibson is going to do a reprise of his famous role; this time, it will be called *Mad RE/Max*:

Hordes of deranged Realtors rove the scarred landscape of cookie-cutter, identical McMansions, looking for unsuspecting buyers to kidnap and sign-up for their next “REO Speedwagon” RE tour. Mad RE/Max valiantly tries to counter the Realtors by expounding on the virtues of saving and renting until the Price/Income ratio regresses to the mean but the buyers hurl insults at him and willingly join the deranged Realtors in their search for Golconda*. Mad RE/Max retreats to his [rented] bunker muttering Schadenfreude-like things and passes the time by reading the HBB.

For some unfathomable reason, my screenplay has not generated much interest. Go figure.

* Golconda was a mythical city where everyone who passed through got rich [sound familiar? The REIC probably based their ad campaigns on this]. Got this from a [John Brooks?] book called *Once in A Golconda*.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-06-06 09:34:56

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