June 13, 2009

Everything’s Driving Values In One Direction

It’s a rare Saturday desk clearing for this blogger. “Record foreclosures hitting Orange County involve more than just newbie buyers who got in over their heads. Some housing watchers say evidence is mounting that even veteran homeowners got caught up in housing euphoria and now are paying for it. Michael LaCour-Little, a finance professor at Cal State Fullerton…is lead author of a new study which found that during the housing boom some long-time owners borrowed against all their property’s equity gain, or paper profits. They treated their houses like cash machines. One homeowner who cashed-out her equity is Rita Gillam, an 85-year-old widow in Orange.”

“When her baby store hit a rough patch, she borrowed money to keep it going, culminating in a $556,000 loan from Fremont Investment & Loan in 2006. And not expecting to live so long, she spent some money on non-necessities, including a vacation to Las Vegas, Gillam said. The $556,000 is gone and so is her business, Gillam said. Loan servicer HomEq Servicing is putting her home, which she has owned since 1957, up for auction on Aug. 4.”

“‘I am broke,’ she said.”

“‘The conventional view is that housing appreciation is good because it reduces (default) risk,’ LaCour-Little said. ‘Not according to my theory, which is housing appreciation is bad. It encourages junior-lien borrowing. When appreciation stops, somebody is going to be left in a bad position.’”

“Florida’s recession and foreclosure crisis is prompting people to take unusual steps in a desperate gambit to make mortgage payments, stay afloat financially and even avoid homelessness. People who once might have tapped into their home equity are instead parlaying empty rooms into much-needed cash.”

“Carol and Mark Tuttle may open their 1,100-square-foot Bradenton home to another roommate. The tenant renting from them left recently, leaving them without $600 a month in much-needed income. She refinanced during the boom and now owes $150,000 for a house that might be worth half that. ‘We don’t know what to do, and we’re living off of credit cards,’ said Carol Tuttle.”

“The Tuttles, who want a quiet male roommate to avoid getting a ’sleazy’ boarder, have considered trying to sell and move in with relatives, another trend that experts say is rising. But, owing more than the house is worth, they want to wait for a market turnaround. ‘The Realtor told me I could short sell it, but it’s going to hurt my credit,’ Tuttle said.”

“Real estate got just about everyone into trouble in Phoenix, and the thinking seems to be that real estate is going to get everyone out. The low end of the real-estate market here — and in some equally hard-hit places like inland California and coastal Florida — is becoming as wild as anything during the boom.”

“Just about everybody seems to be buying as many houses as they can, positive it will make them rich — or at least allow them to recoup some of their losses. ‘I bought too high a few years ago,’ said Jason Fischbeck. ‘It cost $225,000. Now it’s worth $110,000. So I just paid $80,000 cash for another.’”

“Last spring, he contracted for three new homes in the distant suburb of Copper Basin, convinced that real estate was bottoming. He was wrong. He managed to get out of two of the contracts but had to buy one of the houses, which is now substantially under water.”

“‘You need to buy when there’s blood in the streets,’ he said with a shrug. ‘Even if it’s your own blood.’”

“For home builders, foreclosures and distressed sales remain a problem even after they are sold. They become comparable sales to gauge value, reflecting decreased market values, forcing builders to shave prices or risk losing a deal. Back in the housing heyday, appraisers felt pressured by everyone from real-estate agents to consumers to inflate value estimates. But now, builders grumble appraisers are being conservative, or even, they fear, discounting the value to play it safe.”

“‘The lenders that are using these appraisals [for] the amount they will loan, they were just burned by appraisers being too optimistic and liberal in the boom times, so they’re going in the opposite direction,’ said David Ledford, senior vice president at the National Association of Home Builders. ‘It sort of contributes to a downward spiral in values.’”

“As interest rates climb and unemployment numbers remain escalated, more owners could be forced into short-sales or other desperate moves, prolonging the sector’s pain. ‘Everything’s driving values in one direction, there’s no counter-acting force,’ Ledford said.”

“After decades of leading the nation in growth, Georgia and the Southeast have stumbled. Ironically, it was some of the region’s signs of success —- primarily the housing boom, with its aggressive borrowing by consumers —- that made it vulnerable. Riding that boom, the region was actually slower to enter recession. But when it did, it did so with a vengeance.”

“In 2001, with the economy sputtering, the Federal Reserve shoved interest rates down. Housing starts jumped, in spite of a recession. Mortgage rates were at near-record lows, and ‘teaser’ loans made the starting payments even lower. Four years later, the rate of monthly starts in the South for the first time rose above 1 million, once again accounting for half the nation’s new home building.”

“But those good times led to trouble. ‘We were just overbuilt,’ said Mike Chriszt, assistant vice president for research at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. ‘The thing that is different this time around is that the very large increase in construction in 2004, 2005 and 2006 was taking place faster than the pace of people moving to the area. When the music stopped, it was a big shock.’”

“Some companies are trying new approaches to deal with the mounting crisis. Tim Cabrera, chief operating officer of Atlanta-based Pride of Ownership Partners, recently eyed the unwanted artwork gracing the interior walls of the house his company just bought: Long streaks and swirls of red and blue spray paint. Associated Press reported that the graffiti, probably the work of neighborhood kids, stretched from the kitchen to the upstairs bathroom of the foreclosed home. Even the carpeted staircase had been tagged.”

“‘Unbelievable,’ said Cabrera. ‘They got into everything.’”

“It may be time to start thinking outside of the box, because U.S. housing prices are in the midst of a decline that may last for years, according to Robert J. Shiller, a finance professor at Yale University. Shiller wrote in a New York Times story this month that declines in real estate tend to be relatively long lasting. As an example, he mentioned land prices in Japan’s major cities, prices that fell for 15 straight years after a 1980s housing bubble burst.”

“Year over year, average metro prices have fallen 16 percent. ‘We see no evidence that a recovery in home prices has begun,’ said David M. Blitzer, chairman of the S&P/Case-Shiller index committee.”

“Forbes: The firm formerly known as AOL Time Warner is no more. Which brings me to the larger question. Many people held on to tech stocks, in retrospect, much longer than they should have, and have kept waiting for these names to come back (Time Warner being just one example). Cisco, for all the love it gets, is down 33% over the past decade, while the dowdy old S&P 500 is down just 30%. Microsoft is down 50% over the past decade, also another loser for long-term holders. This isn’t to say these stocks can’t come back, but so far, if you were long here, you were wrong. The tech bubble didn’t reinflate, know what I mean?”

“Tech stocks haven’t come back to their former glory in 10 years, post- bubble. Are financials and housing stocks in for a similar dispiriting ride?”

“There’s an important anniversary approaching this week. Two years ago a rumour went around financial markets that a couple of hedge funds that had invested in supposedly triple-A-rated securities had made heavy losses. Those securities were backed by sub-prime mortgages. The company was Bear Sterns.”

“Yep, the start of what was initially called the American mortgage crisis, then became the global financial crisis and is now the Great Recession is ‘celebrating’ its second birthday this week. Two years on, Bear Sterns is no longer with us. Other ‘victims’ include names such as Lehman Brothers in the US, Northern Rock in Britain, while in Australia we’ve lost firms such as Allco and Storm Financial.”

“Sub-prime mortgage (which have also disappeared) has become a term of ridicule. The companies — ratings agencies — that reckoned those sub-prime mortgages, when put together in a package and given a bright pink bow, were of the same investment quality as a blue-chip food retailer, are now much more circumspect and likely facing some heavy regulation to avoid a repeat of their blunders.”

“It had appeared that the world might have got by reasonably well until Lehmans bit the dust. That’s when the financial crisis became a global recession. “Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens, in a description quite un-banker like, said the months after the collapse of Lehmans were particularly worrying.”

“‘It was the most turbulent period in international finance any current banker, economist, market trader or policy-maker has lived through or, we hope, ever will,’ he said recently.”

“Longview-area houses are among the most overvalued in the nation, according to a new report that suggests buyers are paying pay 26.6 percent more than they should be. Although local real estate experts and economists dispute the finding, the study concludes Longview had the fourth highest ‘overpriced’ housing market in the nation late last year, according to an international economic data forecaster.”

“The report examined 330 metro areas nationwide. It factored in historic and median housing prices, interest rates, household income, population density and other variables to determine what prices in each market should be. The formula doesn’t favor Cowlitz County, where traditionally high unemployment and low wages make median and average home prices seem overvalued, said Gerry Flaskerud, broker/owner of Longview-based Coldwell Banker Flaskerud Realty.”

“‘Our market in Cowlitz County, on that kind of measuring stick, always looks out of whack,’ Flaskerud said.”

“If home prices in Cowlitz County were truly overvalued, then the area should expect prices to drop further as a correction, said Scott Bailey, the state’s Southwest Washington regional economist. However, prices have already been dropping over the past two years, and signs indicate the market is hitting bottom, he said.”

“‘I would think it would have corrected by now’ if prices were overvalued, Bailey said.”

“He paid $91,000 (£58,000) for the home, compared with $269,900 (£162,000) the previous owner paid at the height of the property boom before falling behind on payments and seeing it repossessed. For his money, Mr Eliason, owner of a convenience store, acquired 1,458 sq feet of living space including three bedrooms and two bathrooms, a two-car garage and close to half an acre of land.”

“‘I had never believed I would be able to buy until prices dropped to the level they did,’ said Mr Eliason, who moved to Cape Coral from Dallas, Texas. ‘I had rented my whole life but I was astonished I could get that much home for that little money. It just made sense to buy before everyone else found out.’”

“The average house price in the area fell from a peak of $322,000 in early 2006 to $89,000, as cheap credit dried up and foreclosures began to strike. ‘It’s a frenzy,’ said Kip Martin of Century 21 Sunbelt Realty. ‘It reminds me of when the market was way up there, except the prices are different.’”

“For Tammy Hobbs, a housewife from Virginia and first time investor, the bargains on offer were irresistible. She has bought two houses in Cape Coral, one as a second home and one as a rental investment. She and her husband James only wish they could have afforded another. ‘I had been thinking about a home in Florida because I love the warm weather,’ she said. ‘It is just an excellent time to buy. And the beach is 45 minutes away.’”

“Foreclosures in Hawaii soared 397.6 percent last month to a record high and pushed the state to its highest national ranking since 2005. Rising unemployment and mass condominium defaults led to Hawaii leading the nation for growth in the rate of foreclosures in May. While Hawaii’s distressed real estate market is growing, it has not surpassed the collapse after the Japanese bubble, said Georgia Roberson, REO director for Coldwell Banker Pacific Properties.”

“‘Right now, I have 85 bank-owned properties,’ Roberson said, adding that she had around 300 properties in 1999 or 2000.”

“Hawaii’s declining real estate, loan recasts and rising unemployment have ramped up foreclosures. The state’s dependence on California and the large portion of condominiums in the real estate market have played a role, too. Hawaii’s lenders were still making subprime loans in 2007, said Nani Medeiros, the executive director of a nonprofit that creates and preserves affordable housing. ‘We are just starting to see the fallout in 2009 and it will continue into 2010,’ Medeiros said.”

“The collapse of California, which supplies many of Hawaii’s tourists, business investors and second-home owners, also has taken its toll, Roberson said. The softening condominium market, which saw sales fall by more than 45 percent on Oahu during the first quarter, as well as the difficulty in securing condominium financing, also contributed to the problem. ‘We usually follow California by two years,’ she said.”

“Dallas-Fort Worth has some of the most undervalued homes in the country, according to a new report. But don’t expect that finding to cause a jump in prices. Home prices in the Dallas area are almost 32 percent undervalued, according to the latest measure by IHS Global Insight. The Dallas area is one of a handful of Texas housing markets the research firm considers to be among the most undervalued in the country.”

“‘What it means when it is undervalued is the market could handle price increases,’ said Jeannine Cataldi, economist and one of the authors of the report. ‘It just means prices could go up in that market without any long-lasting damage to the market. Texas has always been in the undervalued category.’”

“Global Insight now estimates that the overall U.S. housing market is more than 10 percent undervalued. That compares with an overvaluation of more than 24 percent at the peak of the market in 2005. The analysts say that big markdowns in home values in many areas of the country have reset prices in most cities. The home markets Global Insight says are still the most overvalued are in New Jersey and Washington state.”

‘To make valuation determinations, ‘we have some metrics we look at, including population density, housing density, previous house prices, interest rates and income,’ Cataldi said.”

“Texas has customarily had undervalued housing because of the ease of building in the state, she said. ‘Even if there was a mad dash to Texas, there is enough room that housing could be built up without much of an issue,’ Cataldi said. ‘In California and Florida, they don’t have a whole lot of land left to build on.’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2009-06-13 09:46:50

Sorry for being off-line for so long, but my move got delayed and I am still unpacking and waiting for internet service. It was an exciting week, and I look forward to getting back to normal. My thanks to those who support this blog, and please check back tomorrow.

Comment by maldonash
2009-06-13 12:31:11

I understand well … I just moved three of our places - two in LA and one in NY. Exciting and exhausting at the same time.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-13 16:26:44

Oooh! Did you have a moving sale, Ben? Did you part with any books? How about your chainsaws? I want to find a chainsaw at a moving sale one of these days. The one I have is too big for me.
… If not your chainsaws, did you sell your ‘Hello Kitty” collection? :lol:

Truly, though, moving is a pain. I think you’ve done great, considering it’s from the middle of a move.

Tell us about your new digs!

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-06-14 07:14:17

I wonder if Ben got a Bigger place to share with a SO……..

Life is so much more fun to have someone to share things with….but then i never really had a rotten GF.

 
 
 
Comment by Danger
2009-06-13 09:55:58

On the one hand, it seems like an 85-year-old woman should not be taking out a home equity loan and spending the cash. Too bad, so sad.

On the other hand, however, how perspicacious is this octogenarian? Did she have all of her wits about her when she cashed out?!

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-06-13 10:19:39

She will get welfare food stamps and low income housing since she will be placed high on the list….she wont be homeless, just broke

 
Comment by desertdweller
2009-06-13 10:31:52

She was trying to save her business.

And at least she didnt’ use the heloc for lots of stuff/lots of vacations, just the one trip to Vegas.

Comment by Michael Viking
2009-06-13 11:16:08

Are you being sarcastic? Did you catch the “culminating in a $556,000 loan” part? She took more than some vacation to Vegas! Taking out a $556,000 loan in 2006 and having nothing left at all a few years later adds up to more than a vacation in Vegas and saving one’s baby store.

There are some powerful tales in this desk clearing.

Comment by desertdweller
2009-06-13 13:42:57

Of course!

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Comment by whyyou
2009-06-13 11:30:02

The story doesn’t really tell you much about what she did with the money. I’m sure that in 3 years $550,000 minus one Vegas trip wasn’t blown on a failing baby store. Most people have some pride and don’t mind telling you their sob story but not the nasty details on how they made their mess. I can imagine her telling the reporter “oh I used the money for the good purpose of trying to make a business work” and after prodding from the writer I’m sure she admitted “ok, maybe I did take a trip to Vegas, after all I don’t plan on living much longer so I’m going spend every dime they’ll lend me”.

Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 13:29:32

Exactly. Even assuming a full 3 years, that’s over 15K a month expenses, not even factoring in any sales (I’m assuming her baby store had at least SOME offsetting income?). That must’ve been one heckuva baby store with that kind of overhead.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-06-14 09:08:20

I always thought it was illegal to sell babies.

 
Comment by Frank
2009-06-15 10:51:52

That’s why it cost so much to keep it running…

 
 
Comment by az_lender
2009-06-13 16:41:10

She doesn’t say how much of it she gambled away during her Vegas trip.

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Comment by holytrainwreck
2009-06-13 20:24:32

Damn, that’s a lot of buyins to the World Series Of Poker.

 
 
 
Comment by DennisN
2009-06-13 11:51:24

Her whole story doesn’t make sense. Why was she propping up a small business that was failing - when she was 85 years old? Note that she also said that in 2006 she didn’t think she was going to live much longer. If that’s the case, why not bail on the business rather than the house? Now she’s lost both the business AND the house. At least with a paid-off house she could have scraped by on social security.

Comment by wolfgirl
2009-06-13 12:12:27

Where did she get the energy to run a store when she was in her 80’s? Or was she paying someone a fortune to run it for her?

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Comment by Anon In DC
2009-06-13 15:15:38

Or was she paying someone a fortune to RUIN it for her?

 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 15:40:51

Was she funneling her no-good deadbeat son a bunch of cash, figuring she won’t be around to go to jail by the time they figure it out?

 
Comment by CA renter
2009-06-14 03:53:51

Good question.

 
 
 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 13:33:15

Sub out “35 year old investor” for “85 year old widow” and I doubt the identical actions would drum up much sympathy.

 
 
Comment by Carlos Cisco
2009-06-13 10:36:45

No. She Just gambled, like she did when she went to Vegas. She made her luck. I cant feel sorry for her; she’s just an old gambler and we know how they always end up. What? Too harsh? If she was 40 years old we’d be laughing at her impudence. So much for acquiring wisdom with age.

Comment by exeter
2009-06-13 11:01:43

Her saga speaks volumes about the power of group think, marketing and the “create wealth” lie.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2009-06-13 11:15:59

The article said she had a baby store. I didn’t know you could buy a baby at a store. Maybe this is another of those trends that starts in California.

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Comment by Danger
2009-06-13 12:15:10

Y’all are harsh. But harsh is good.

 
Comment by desertdweller
2009-06-13 13:44:11

BIC keep pushing those buttons- lol

Just remember most of CA is from the midwest.

 
Comment by SaladSD
2009-06-13 14:01:45

Yup, ever since the gold rush we’ve attacted other state’s crazies…. now that we’re busted, back at cha! “Oklahoma here I come, just back from where I come from.”

 
Comment by exeter
2009-06-14 08:34:16

“Whats the matter with Kansas”

A must read.

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2009-06-13 19:02:18

I didn’t know you could buy a baby at a store

My kind of postin’

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-06-14 09:09:40

They’re not making babies anymore. This could be the next bubble market.

OK, maybe not.

 
 
 
 
Comment by fries with that?
2009-06-13 12:24:05

In the original article, it says she owned a beauty shop in addition to the baby shop.

Actually, I think people like Rita are canaries in the coal mine. The days when you could independently operate a non-liquor related, store-front business in a populated area like Orange County are rapidly drawing to a close. Unless you buy into a franchise to get brand recognition and achieve economies of scale with equipment, supplies, and other costs, it’s very difficult to make it work.

Businesses like the ones Rita owned are, at least in part, driving the increase in commercial property defaults.

Comment by VegasBob
2009-06-13 15:25:39

This also explains why it is becoming impossible for entrepreneurs to start a business in this country. It takes a lot of $$$ or very good credit to buy a franchise. And it’s hard for a business to get noticed without the franchise backing it up.

Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 15:45:13

Yep — even in Podunkville, USA, people are eschewing Main Street in favor of amazon.com

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Comment by TCM_guy
2009-06-14 07:36:44

Overstock.com has king sized 4″ 4lb/CuFt breathable memory foam mattress tops delivered for $239. The local furniture store has king sized PosturePedic ™ memory foam mattress toppers for >$1,000. The median household income in this town of 14k people is $32k in 2007. 2008 COL Index = 0.827. Not a wealthy area, although the Indian doctors do it conspicuously. (Rock floors imported from India.)

Who you gonna call?

Surprisingly, even though MANY call Overstock, Overstock has been losing money & selling stock since its inception.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-06-13 13:18:43

She was probably thinking (hoping) she would kick the bucket before she lost it all, so making a big gamble like that was fine, according her way of thinking?

Being so much in debt by the time you die is no different from being a thief. But we tend to treat it soft-heartedly like a white collar crime, because we tend to be easy on those who are near death, no matter how unethical a person near death is.

Comment by desertdweller
2009-06-13 13:45:54

Right you are, BILA, gma lived to 100 and said at 90, she didn’t expect to outlive her income.

It is going to be harsh for alot of us.

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-06-14 09:11:54

I think I’ll go take out a hundred-year mortgage. That way I will have guaranteed my earthly existence for at least 101 more years.

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Comment by Watching the Carnage
2009-06-13 18:56:52

Wow,

Watch this interview with Rita the bankrupt octegenarian - after this, I’m not sure what to think…what with cars burning up on the freeway and multiple failed businesses. She seems pretty lucid to me - kind of reminds me of my own 78 YO Mom - in some regards.

http://www.blinkx.com/video/widow-85-about-to-be-evicted-from-o-c-home/ys8KNQ6qaHY-nTlcIJBsiw

 
 
Comment by exeter
2009-06-13 10:59:54

“Foreclosures in Hawaii soared 397.6 percent last month to a record high”

Given the fact that foreclosure activity is the best indicator of collapsing housing prices and we’re just two years into this multi-decade downdraft, It seems to me the used house salesman lie that “housing always goes up” and “it’s an ‘investment’” doesn’t seem to have much credibility anymore.

So at what point does the general public capitulate and turn on the Real Estate Crime Syndicate better known and NAR and finally dismantle the MLS system?

So much for the “free market” loons and their babbling.

Comment by Ben Jones
2009-06-13 11:13:42

I guess I’m one of those loons. I don’t think the NAR system is exactly free market. I do believe that the role of governments in the housing bubble, and what went wrong with regulation/the Fed/wall street/credit ratings, etc, are probably the most important things to debate. IMO, if we can focus on constructive changes to the system, it will be the best for all concerned.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-06-13 11:34:42

The NAR is for all intents and purposes a government-sponsored or abetted monopoly, that would have 1/1000th of its current power and influence in an actual free market. It”a a monopoly that hasn’t (yet) managed to eliminate every possible source of competition at the margin, giving a lot of a shred of hope.

So I agree completely with exeter’s wish about the NAR, because I am one of those free market loons. I don’t know what that means, but there it is. :-)

Comment by DennisN
2009-06-13 11:55:12

I wonder how an anti-trust suit against the NAR would fare.

Perhaps Congress could “regulate” them by forcing a fiduciary care standard on representations about real property. For example, breach of fiduciary responsibilty under ERISA is a crime - second occurance is a FELONY.

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-06-13 12:08:18

It seems like all that really needs to be done is to open up the MLS system to all parties, and stop concealing 3/4 of the useful listing data behind NAR agent-only firewalls.

Government could do this either through a mostly passive or even a more active role: I don’t really have a strong preference in that regard. I just want to see information flow where it needs to flow so that much more informed transactions can be made, without the endless manipulations and distortions. Considering that the distortions are aimed only at artificially propping up markets and maximizing the largesse of the developer, realtor, lender and insurance companies involved.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2009-06-13 12:18:57

‘the distortions are aimed only at artificially propping up markets’

You know, this is a serious question of the day and I’m not sure why the media doesn’t feel some obligation to address it. These games these various parties play; talking up the market and congress passing this law or that to “stimulate sales”, etc, has certainly contributed to the mania. Why these practices aren’t being attacked is beyond me.

One case that I have been trying to make; these lenders are now some of the biggest owners of land and houses in this country. Why is it OK for them to hide inventory? They are getting away with stuff that should be illegal if it isn’t already.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-06-13 12:48:09

I accept the argument made by many that without the relaxation of mark-to-market accounting, most large banks would be kaput. Look at the typical leverage versus the percentage of failed debt, and the math only leads one way.

Without mark-to-market accounting, banks give the appearance of holding on, backstopped by the Fed, until they have to finally take their losses. Which they steadfastly refuse to do, because they don’t have to. Sure seems like collusion to me.

I joked above, but I’m not “free-market or bust”. I think we have a ton of bad regulation everywhere that is completely counter-productive and should be scrapped. And we don’t have regulation where it’s most needed. I say bring back anti-trust with a vengeance, with a whole new fundamental reason behind it. Anti-trust was designed to break up companies that were too big and powerful. Now, they’re too big and bogus, and they are simply failures waiting to pull us all down.

 
Comment by exeter
2009-06-13 12:57:08

I’m talking about a number of issues in my original post. First and foremost, the MLS system needs to be dismantled in a very big way. Second, with all the bemoaning of how we”ve magically become a socialist state as of 1/20/09, all the petty gripes flying around about wanting to go back to the way “it used to be” (crony corporatism) falls flat on it’s face. I’ll take free markets any day of the week all day long but 2000-2008 were anything but. Crony corporatism, better known as fascism was a insidious and fraudulent proxy that those who profited most referred to as a “free market” during the dark years 2000-2008. Free markets for us, feeding at the US Treasury for the corporate elite and their minions. Ask the Plenty-Plaints to define a free market. They can’t nor do they have the intellectual capacity nor the intestinal fortitude to come right out and say that a free market is a UNICORN…. it doesn’t exist nor will it ever. There will always be something to distort prices in every market and that is precisely what a free market is…. one that is free from price distorting influences. The closest thing that comes to that is the illegal drug trade. All other prices are grossly distorted through the use of wage slavery, currency manipulation, etc.

My intent was to express my rage at these mother@#$%ing lying real estate sales pukes. Locally, they are the main source of denial on Main Street. But constructive changes? I’m sorry BJ, this guy just doesn’t have the vision to lay out a solution conducive to anyone. Besides, the “system” is way to far distorted to play tiddly-winks with these lying crooks.

 
Comment by desertdweller
2009-06-13 13:55:08

lenders are now some of the biggest owners of land and houses in this country. Why is it OK for them to hide inventory?

 
Comment by ET-Chicago
2009-06-13 14:33:12

I’ll take free markets any day of the week all day long but 2000-2008 were anything but. Crony corporatism, better known as fascism was a insidious and fraudulent proxy that those who profited most referred to as a “free market” during the dark years 2000-2008. Free markets for us, feeding at the US Treasury for the corporate elite and their minions.

Well said, Ex, but to be fair I think our problems with corporatism extend much further back — it flowered in our national post-WWII prosperity and has been growing in force ever since. (Before that, of course, we had a storied history of monopolists and robber barons and other nogoodniks.)

The differences in the first years of this millenia were the degree (maximum), the manner (shameless), and the methods (over-the-top) by which corporatism was cultured and fed.

I’m also of the camp that believes enforcement of existing tax evasion, anti-trust, anti-undocumented worker laws and so forth needs to be stepped up.

 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 15:50:41

I’m sure Barack Obama could look into some kind of fix for the NAR, but please don’t bug him right now — he’s busy changing my fan belts and shocks, and drawing up plans for the GM 2011 lineup.

 
Comment by cashedin05
2009-06-13 20:05:30

There was plenty of Crony corporatism in Clinton’s 8 years and much much more in congress. Don’t let the “Stolen” 2000 election clould your judgement.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 23:15:18

“Why is it OK for them to hide inventory? They are getting away with stuff that should be illegal if it isn’t already.”

I’m not an accountant (Ben is), but it seems like this could be a ploy to help them cook their books: don’t ask, don’t sell. I am sure the Fed and other lending industry regulators will soon get to the bottom of this, though…

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 23:12:29

Count me in with the “loons”, as I would rather have a housing market free of government intervention where a willing buyer and a willing seller make a trade at a price the buyer can afford and the seller is willing to accept. This sounds much better to me than this topsy-turvy situation where every manner of government subsidy, stimulus, pushing, prodding, poking and manipulating are used to fatten a highly subsidized housing market cash cow that provides a rich flow of cream to politicians and the industry that pays their campaign contributions. Watcha think?

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 23:20:26

‘So much for the “free market” loons and their babbling.’

What do you know about ‘free markets’? For instance, did you realize the basic model in economics, that of perfect competition (which is what Milton Friedman would have meant by ‘free market’) assumes that information is perfectly available? For instance, with a free market, there would not be a monopolistic NAR hiding transactions data from potential customers in an effort to gain an informational advantage.

Comment by Jimmy Jazz
2009-06-14 10:41:17

The tendency of unregulated capitalism is towards monopoly. Theoretical “free markets” are just a utopian pipe dream like communism or the Orlando Magic winning this series ;)

 
 
 
Comment by Anon In DC
2009-06-13 11:07:14

“For Tammy Hobbs, a housewife from Virginia and first time investor, the bargains on offer were irresistible. She has bought two houses in Cape Coral, one as a second home and one as a rental investment. She and her husband James only wish they could have afforded another. ‘I had been thinking about a home in Florida because I love the warm weather,’ she said. ‘It is just an excellent time to buy. And the beach is 45 minutes away.’”

To me the sign of idiot (including realtors and one of my siblings) is someone who uses TIME to measure DISTANCE. In some real estate ads I seen only 10 minutes to Dulles Airport. Maybe at 120 miles per hour at three am with no other traffic.

Comment by DennisN
2009-06-13 11:57:00

The beach is only 45 minutes away from Silicon Valley too - at 3 AM.

Comment by cereal
2009-06-13 13:02:31

45 minutes from the beach is nothing to brag about. Or maybe she’s complaining.

 
 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 15:59:04

I disagree — if you live in a trafficy (is that a word?) area, it makes perfect sense to measure distance with a time estimate; or, in developing countries, where it can take 5 hours to go 80 miles, it makes even more sense.

Comment by CA renter
2009-06-14 04:02:50

Yep. In L.A., for instance, you’ll hardly ever hear someone tell distance in miles. It’s always in time, and there is usually a range given for light - heavy traffic (i.e.: 15-30 minutes away).

 
 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-06-14 09:15:22

“For Tammy Hobbs, a housewife from Virginia and first time investor, the bargains on offer were irresistible.

You just know this is going to end badly, and she won’t have anybody to blame but herself. Despite her wails that she was a misled victim.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2009-06-13 11:14:16

‘In California and Florida, they don’t have a whole lot of land left to build on.’

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHH!

Somebody STILL has the nerve to use that line!

Comment by buckwheat
2009-06-13 23:19:52

I got a chuckle out of that one too.

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2009-06-13 12:04:56

“Cisco, for all the love it gets, is down 33% over the past decade, while the dowdy old S&P 500 is down just 30%.”

“Just” 30 percent?

I don’t think, moreover, that the same dollars put into the S&P 500 a decade ago could buy the same goods and services today. Housing in some markets excepted.

 
Comment by taxmeupthebooty
2009-06-13 12:46:03

why do states employ economist ?

soon each state will have a czar

Comment by ric
2009-06-13 16:26:38

if everyone’s a czar, nobody’s a czar

 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-06-13 13:12:20

That guy in Phoenix who keeps trying to catch knives said (from the quote above): “‘You need to buy when there’s blood in the streets,’ he said with a shrug. ‘Even if it’s your own blood.’”

I’m speechless.

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-06-13 13:34:00

I say - with a shrug - “What an absolute moron!”

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-06-13 15:10:17

Rule #1 I learned in boy scout first-aid was that in the case of massive bleeding, stopping the bleeding immediately trumps all other concerns.

I don’t think that holding out one’s hands to catch additional knives is what the first-aid teacher had in mind.

Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 16:01:40

Perhaps the rationale is that sometimes a massive amputation bleeds less than a severe gouge.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 22:17:05

I’m not speechless. I don’t think the fellow realizes the saying refers to someone else’s blood, not your own blood — d’oh!

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-06-14 09:18:07

From my vulture’s perch, I’m casting an unruffled gimlet gaze at all these bleeders, but still not seeing any compelling reason to leave my comfy branch and take wing in search of serious carrion.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2009-06-13 13:28:20

“Foreclosures in Hawaii soared 397.6 percent”

Aloha!

 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 13:39:24

“Just about everybody seems to be buying as many houses as they can, positive it will make them rich — or at least allow them to recoup some of their losses. ‘I bought too high a few years ago,’ said Jason Fischbeck. ‘It cost $225,000. Now it’s worth $110,000. So I just paid $80,000 cash for another.’”

That’s it, amigo. Double down now so you will be tapped out when I want to get in. You’ve got one canteen of water and you’re 80 miles out in the desert. I’ll be waiting up in this branch, filing my claws. Have fun.

Comment by cactus
2009-06-13 15:14:28

Yes my investor friend is looking at Kingman RE on the advice of another investor he knows.

whatever

Comment by Ben Jones
2009-06-13 15:34:41

Kingman AZ? I do a lot of work out there. Possibly the worst market in the state, IMO.

Tell him to buy 2…

 
 
Comment by Captain john
2009-06-13 15:24:43

‘So I just paid $80,000 cash for another.’

OK, so where are Tools like this getting hold of “Cash”?

Comment by cereal
2009-06-13 21:27:56

and what stops an $80,000 house from becoming a $60,000 house?

 
 
 
Comment by ahansen
2009-06-13 13:58:46

Hope you have a relaxing weekend, Ben.

Several on the blog have asked after me in recent days so here’s an update:

As my year’s reign as the National Metaphor comes to a close (my thanks to Octomom for taking up the torch,) I’m actually kind of surprised to find myself in pretty good shape, considering. Six or seven, (eight? nine?) surgeries and one international media sideshow later, I’ve managed to weather the whole experience without having discovered so much as one new truth about myself-unless you count the reaffirmation that Anthem/Blue Cross needs to be tarred and feathered and run off to IndyMac-ville on a splintered rail. Weasels.
Being mauled by that damned bear was the easy part….

What I’ve lost –other than a near pound of original body parts –is the sense of serenity I used to enjoy when out alone in the wild. It hurts to think I might never again be able to sit beside a mountain creek and just watch the water flowing down the hill without wondering what’s lurking at my six waiting for the right moment to pounce. Fortunately, both of my hero dogs are still alive and well and more than happy to make the daily rounds of the ranch with me. I’ve started riding my race horse again, albeit not alone, and not up on the Pacific Crest Trail. Yet….

What I’ve gained is a year in which to watch the most momentous world events of my lifetime unfold, along with the perfect excuse to do nothing at all but sit back and enjoy the irony, and heal. Which I’m doing. Quite nicely, actually. Thank you for asking.

Again, I am so grateful to Ben and this HBB family for all the support and encouragement you’ve given me– and for all the thought-provoking posts that have helped get me through those early morning hours when pain or heebie jeebies have reminded me that no matter how well may you think you’ve insulated yourself from life’s little surprises, EVERYBODY gets it in the end….

You guys are wonderful. Mwah!
a

Comment by palmetto
2009-06-13 15:27:33

“Anthem/Blue Cross needs to be tarred and feathered and run off to IndyMac-ville on a splintered rail. Weasels.”

Would love to hear anything you have to say on this matter. Insurance companies are notorious weasels, unless, like AIG, they’re paying themselves. It’s a travesty what they put people through at the worst times in their lives.

Comment by bink
2009-06-13 15:42:08

Me too. I have Anthem for my insurance and you’re post has scared me so much I’m canceling my trip to the petting zoo. :(

Comment by bink
2009-06-13 15:43:38

I swear I didn’t just type “you’re” instead of “your”. Damn Internet gremlins.

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Comment by ahansen
2009-06-13 16:05:59

With your permission, Ben, in the interest of conserving your bandwith?

Palmy, a more detailed screed entitled “Mauled by a Bear, Then Mauled by Blue Cross” is posted here.

http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2009/06/health_insuranc_2.html#comments

Comment by palmetto
2009-06-13 16:33:20

Wow, thanks for the link, allena. I don’t like to offer mindless soothing pap to folks who have suffered an ordeal, so I hope you don’t take it that way, but I think you are going to have an impact as a voice for so many who have been, are and could be in a similar position to yours.

I think people in your position ought to have advocates to go to bat for them with the insurance companies, so they can just concentrate on healing.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-06-14 09:40:21

ought to have advocates to go to bat for them with the insurance companies

or to go to the insurance companies with a bat for them, as the case may be :)

 
 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2009-06-13 20:58:40

Thanks for the updates. It says a lot to say that the health insurance companiy’s mauling was WORSE than that bear attack…

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Comment by az_lender
2009-06-13 16:52:59

I’m pretty happy with BC/BS of AZ. Not all Blue Crosses are created equal. Of course, I haven’t seriously tested BCBSAZ by being bear-mauled.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2009-06-13 17:06:04

Allena, I am sorry for complaining about my recent health care billing issue. I know that’s not the point of my post or yours, I also don’t mean that in a co-opting, guilt way… I mean, damn.

 
Comment by Watching the Carnage
2009-06-13 19:42:52

Ahansen,

I’m an off-and-on poster, but I’m a daily “every thread read” fan of this blog for more than five years. Beyond the invaluable insight I’ve gained from the regulars here, I’ve also felt a sense of real community.

Your terrifying experience and the support from the group here was fascinating to watch. I was thrilled when you made an appearance on Ben’s recent video and I was able to see and hear Ahansen - your poise and presence was riveting.

You’re a strong and resilient woman.

Reminds me - I haven’t donated to Ben for a while - will do that right now. I’ve gotten more enjoyment, insight and value from this site than any other media source over the course of the years.

Thanks Ben for this site and congratulations Ahansen for your heart and perseverance. I hope you can find ways that will allow you to enjoy the wonders of your natural environment without anxiety.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 22:15:28

Life has its surprises all right, including the painful ones, but yours is outside the range of what most of us ever expect to face, and your response in the moment of crisis and its aftermath is quite an inspiration to me. I will always carry your profile of courage in my heart and mind, no matter what I face from here on in life.

Comment by ahansen
2009-06-14 00:04:51

I love you too, prof. Thank you so much.
mwah

 
 
 
Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 15:29:11

Tim Cabrera, chief operating officer of Atlanta-based Pride of Ownership Partners. . .

or POOP for short.

Comment by az_lender
2009-06-13 17:01:13

good observation, Debt.

 
Comment by cashedin05
2009-06-13 20:18:22

:lol:

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 22:12:02

I thought it stood for “People Order Our Patties.” (I guess I have been watching too much SpongeBob SquarePants episodes…)

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2009-06-13 15:44:13

Elmer Fudd Nation. A long, bitter and funny article about how the taxpayers are paying for Mozilo’s defense. I get where the guy is coming from, but I do have a hard time with these “Wake Up America” types. In other words “I’m informing you. I’ve done my job. Now you go out and commit violence.” What’s he expect me to do? Gun down the guy? Right, like I’m gonna risk my butt to bring justice to a dried out old prune. Bite my crank.

http://www.counterpunch.org/ames06122009.html

Comment by iftheshoefits
2009-06-13 16:42:19

I’m getting vewwy, vewwy, angwy…

 
Comment by az_lender
2009-06-13 17:06:14

It would make more sense to protest the TARP in a general way than this use of it in particular.

Comment by palmetto
2009-06-13 17:30:47

How do we protest? I have absolutely no problem with joining a unified, effective protest of some sort. What recourse do we have?

I am definitely open to ideas. But what chaps me (thanks X-GS fixer) is that all these various journalists keep telling us how awful it all is and how we’re losing our country etc, etc. But they never really present any effective solutions. Sure, I don’t deny some of these finance criminals deserve the old deep six. Instead, we get some old fart shooting up a holocaust museum.

There has GOT to be an effective, legal way to go after these guys.

Comment by CA renter
2009-06-14 04:10:16

There has GOT to be an effective, legal way to go after these guys.
———————-

One would hope. The problem seems to be that “these guys” effectively control our lawmakers, while those of us “on the outside” are labled as “fringe” or “kooks” for wanting to fix things.

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Comment by Wickedheart
2009-06-13 19:52:18

Let me send your blood pressure a little higher.

” If you were thinking that the top executives at Countrywide, once the nation’s largest mortgage lender and the company that never saw a borrower they couldn’t qualify, had fallen from grace… think again. They’re back with a vengeance and they’re positioning themselves to make a bundle off the housing meltdown. Yes, you read that correctly. Breathe… breathe…”

“Apparently, they were not quite satisfied with the hundreds of millions they stole… I mean made, so they’ve launched a company that will buy distressed mortgages from banks and the government at a discount, modify the loans so that the borrowers can afford them and then pocket the profits from reselling them.”

“Want me to go over that again?”

“The company’s name is PennyMac Mortgage Investment Trust. It’s located in Countrywide’s hometown of Calabasas, California. PennyMac filed papers in late May for a $750 million initial public offering on Wall Street. The company’s founder and CEO is Stanford Kurland, a 27-year veteran of Countrywide. Kurland was Countrywide’s Chief Operating Officer, President, and the heir-apparent to CEO Angelo Mozilo who was recently indicted by the Securities and Exchange Commission (‘”SEC”) on charges of insider trading, among other things. Kurland left Countrywide in 2006, just a few days after cashing in $130 million worth of Countrywide stock. As a matter of fact, eleven of PennyMac’s 14 officers hail from Countrywide. I tried calling PennyMac for an interview or comment, but they said that they had to decline because they are in the quiet period that precedes an initial public offering, as mandated by the (“SEC”).”

 
Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-13 20:14:12

Palmy, I am sick at my poo poo.

 
 
Comment by az_lender
2009-06-13 17:17:48

Good article by William Booth in tomorrow’s Washington Post about how remittances to Mexico from Mexicans in the US are falling. I think it said a 20% drop YOY in April. “It can’t get any worse than this for Mexico” said so-and-so of the Wharton School. Oh really? Wanna wait another few months and call that same bottom again?

 
Comment by Muggy
2009-06-13 17:18:27

A new Saturday night ritual is emerging: COPS, a bottle of Pinot, a little HBB…

 
Comment by PortlandDad
2009-06-13 17:34:33

Hi Ben and everyone, I recently discovered the blog and I love the community here. There are differing views but it never devolves into a partisan shouting match. Bravo everyone!

I was hoping to get some input from the wizards here about my situation. My partner and I have been renting since we moved in together 3 years ago, here in Portland, Oregon. Now our landlord needs his house back for an aging family member, and we are being forced to move out.

And so, we are in escrow on a 4 BR house near Mt. Scott Comm Center in SE. The house sold for $179K in 2005, and Zillow says it is worth 200K. We are paying 122K. So are we crazy, should we find another rental and hope prices keep falling? Any other advice?

Thanks everyone
John in Portland

Comment by drumminj
2009-06-14 09:45:22

John - try asking on Monday…the traffic here is relatively light on weekends. There are a few OR folks around who can probably give some insight. DinOR, for one.

I think the general feeling here is to still wait for things to settle/stabilize, which could be a ways off. But it’s always a function of your circumstances. A few long-timers on this board have pulled the plug, or been very close, so you wouldn’t be the only one if you were to do so.

Do you see any factors in your lives that might prompt you to move in the next 5 years? If so, buying probably isn’t the best route, as prices may continue to fall. But the “stability” of owning might be worth whatever potential capital loss you would take, assuming you have the cash on hand to absorb it.

 
 
Comment by rms
2009-06-13 18:40:17

“I bought too high a few years ago,” said Jason Fischbeck, an entrepreneur who lives across the street from Jarvis and is one of his clients. “It cost $225,000. Now it’s worth $110,000. So I just paid $80,000 cash for another.”

Unskilled with a double shot of optimism.

Comment by DebtinNation
2009-06-13 19:37:05

You gotta admit, what he lacks in brains, he makes up for in crazy.

 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2009-06-13 21:01:11

Double Down on those twos! That’s the spirit!

 
 
Comment by L. Opine
2009-06-13 19:37:12

I wonder if the Pride of Ownership Partners group has a snazzy sign with a sparkly logo that reads “P.o.O.P., Inc.”

 
Comment by PortlandDad
2009-06-13 19:45:09

Love the blog…my earlier comment (a couple of hours ago) did not post so this is a test.

Comment by drumminj
2009-06-14 09:47:24

Yeah, the server eats some of them. Sometimes it’s a server lag, sometimes posts end up in a bucket that Ben has to approve before they go public. I’m not sure a list of things that put a post in the bucket has ever been publicized, but the best guesses so far are:

*use of profanity
*inclusion of web links (if you leave off the http://www it usually will *go right through)
*inclusion of HTML tags

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 21:44:44

“‘You need to buy when there’s blood in the streets,’ he said with a shrug. ‘Even if it’s your own blood.’”

I hope this idjiot enjoys swimming underwater in his own blood.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 21:48:20

“But now, builders grumble appraisers are being conservative, or even, they fear, discounting the value to play it safe.”

Given how slowly homes are selling at unrealistic wishing prices, perhaps appraisers should discount for anticipated falling knife losses as the sellers hold out for top dollar while prices drop at the fastest rate in U.S. housing market history.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 21:55:12

“‘Everything’s driving values in one direction, there’s no counter-acting force,’ Ledford said.”

I guess Ledford missed the memo on myriad futile government interventions underway to try to stop the crash, including super-low Fed Funds rates (even lower than Alan Greenspan pushed them in the early 2000s episode), quantitative easing by the Fed used to buy long-term T-bonds in an attempt to keep a lid on yields, foreclosure moratoriums, ‘first-time buyer’ tax credits which can be converted into downpayment assistance, federal guarantees to make the lender whole in case of default on FHA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loans, etc. etc. etc. Nonetheless, the Case-Shiller/S&P Index was recently noted to be falling at the fastest rate in history.

To which I sing in reply:

Humpty-dumpty sat on the wall,
Humpty-dumpty had a great fall.
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
Couldn’t put Humpty together again.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 21:56:19

I almost forgot to mention: Fed purchase of MBS that private investors avoided like the plague…

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 22:08:58

TREASURIES OUTLOOK-Bond rally may run on housing data
Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:28pm EDT
By Mary Angela Rowe

NEW YORK, June 12 (Reuters) - Concerns about the housing sector will dominate the Treasury market next week, with the potential for lower yields after this week’s successful Treasury auctions.

But the rally, which began Thursday, may not have much farther to run.

Investors have been watching Treasury yields closely as a clue to mortgage rates, and hoped-for improvement in the housing sector. Data on Monday and Tuesday will address the housing market’s short-term potential for recovery.

Treasury yields dropped from highs of 2009 reached earlier this week on supply concerns. The benchmark 10-year note yield briefly touched 4 percent in the wake of Wednesday’s sale of 10-year notes, the second of three sales of $65 billion in government debt this week.

The auctions were generally well received, but uncertainty about inflation and worries about the borrowing needs of the U.S. government led investors to demand concessions in the form of higher yields at the 10-year sale.

However, a rally was sparked by a better-than-anticipated auction of 30-year bonds Thursday, and that followed on Friday, lowering the 30-year yield to about 4.60 percent from a peak of 4.76 Wednesday.

Housing starts in May are expected to have increased to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 490,000, from April’s rate of 458,000. But that rate still represents a 50 percent decline from the May 2008 rate of starts. Similarly, building permits are expected to increase to 500,000 from April, which would be a 51 percent decline from year-ago data.

That report will be released Tuesday at 8:30 ET.

If these figures are worse than anticipated, it could lengthen the two-day market rally. But another set of surprises may embolden investors, cutting short the rally in Treasuries.

Jim Paulsen, chief investment officer at Wells Capital Management, says it’s hard to imagine disappointments in an already depressed sector. “Housing is down so much you can’t really beat it down much more with rising rates,” he said.

I’d like to propose a little experiment to stress test that theory. Suppose the Fed declared a 1-year moratorium on quantitative easing and let bond traders decide how high long-term T-bond yields and mortgage bond yields should be to make investing worth while. How would housing hold up to, say, 10 percent conventional mortgage rates?

 
Comment by rebarbarian
2009-06-13 22:34:29

I wonder if Jason Fischbeck’s great grandfather doubled down on buggy whip manufacturers?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 23:00:03

So I happen to be east of OlyGal this weekend, in Spokane, and I did my customary search on ForeclosureTown dot com to get a picture of the housing bust situation around these parts. There are 2,661 foreclosure homes listed for a 25 mile radius of this area. The city web site indicates there are 418,000 residents in the metropolitan area, which suggests there are on the order of one foreclosure home for sale for every 418,000/2,661 = 157 residents — a pretty high foreclosure rate for an area which I would not have counted among the nation’s bubble capitals.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-13 23:06:56

“Shiller wrote in a New York Times story this month that declines in real estate tend to be relatively long lasting. As an example, he mentioned land prices in Japan’s major cities, prices that fell for 15 straight years after a 1980s housing bubble burst.”

“Year over year, average metro prices have fallen 16 percent. ‘We see no evidence that a recovery in home prices has begun,’ said David M. Blitzer, chairman of the S&P/Case-Shiller index committee.”

On a frequent basis for several years running, we have repeatedly discussed the scepter here of a Japanese-style period of home price decline lasting for over a decade. Now that Shiller and the S&P folks have mentioned it in the NY Times, the concern is official.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-14 04:32:11

Jun 13, 2009, 11:53 a.m. EST
Six Flags files for bankruptcy protection
By Deborah Levine, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Amusement-park operator Six Flags Inc. (SIXF 0.26, 0.00, -0.38%) filed for bankruptcy protection on Saturday and is seeking an expedited approval from the court of its pre-negotiated reorganization plan.

The New York-based company said the reorganization will deleverage its balance sheet by about $1.8 billion and has support of the lenders’ steering committee and the administrative agent for the company’s $1.1 billion senior secured credit facility. The plan also eliminates more than $300 million in redeemable preferred stock obligations.

The Chapter 11 filing will have no impact on the day-to-day operations of its 20 parks in the U.S., Mexico and Canada, the company said.

“This process is strictly a financial restructuring of our debt,” Chief Executive Mark Shapiro said in a statement. “The current management team inherited a $2.4 billion debt load that cannot be sustained, particularly in these challenging financial markets.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-06-14 04:46:15

Mortgage Rates Explode Upward
Rich Toscano
Voice of San Diego

Three weeks ago, according to quasi-government mortgage giant Freddie Mac, the average rate for 30-year fixed mortgages stood at 4.82 percent. This week, the average rate was 5.59 percent.

The accompanying graph shows that while mortgage rates are still below the levels that prevailed before the financial crisis kicked into high gear, their upward move has been unusually violent and has reversed a substantial portion of the post-crisis decline.

This rate increase pushes up the monthly payment on a given 30-year fixed loan amount by 9 percent — a significant amount for those running the rent-versus-buy exercise at this point. I’ve speculated that ultra-low mortgage rates were a key driver of the spring rally. If rates stay up at these levels, we will get to see whether that was true after all.

 
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