June 14, 2009

When Easy Credit And Booming Real Estate Busted

The Corvallis Gazette Times reports from Oregon. “Morrie and Colleen Slay didn’t want to sell their house. But after they both got laid off, the Albany residents fell behind on their payments. Faced with foreclosure, they discussed their options with a counselor and decided to put their modest two-bedroom on the market, pay off their mortgage and walk away. With real estate values falling, they owed more than the house was currently worth, so they opted to pursue a short sale. The Slays had a willing buyer and an experienced real estate agent who helped them file all the required documents. But every time they thought the sale might close, the lender said there was a problem with the paperwork and closed their account.”

“Last week, after months of frustration, their buyer pulled out of the deal. ‘We’ve got to start all over,’ Morrie Slay said.”

“Anna Balkema, the Willamette Neighborhood Housing Services program’s lone full-time counselor, said she’s seen very few of the subprime or fraudulent loans that have hogged the headlines. Most of the homeowners she works with have conventional fixed mortgages with reasonable interest rates.”

“So what’s pushing them into foreclosure? In most cases, it’s a layoff or a major medical expense. ‘The most typical scenario we have is one or double job losses,’ Balkema said. ‘I’m not seeing any 10 or 11 percent (interest rates). We’ve had people in foreclosure with a 5.25 — they lost their job and couldn’t make the payment.’”

“Wells Fargo, one of the nation’s largest mortgage lenders, is an enthusiastic supporter of the Making Home Affordable initiative, according to Judith Olsen, a community development officer in the bank’s Portland office. ‘The foreclosure and resale process is expensive — it’s expensive for the bank, but it’s also expensive for communities. We really don’t want the houses back, trust me. We’re not in the real estate business, we’re in the lending business,’ Olsen said.”

“Morrie Slay wishes his lender had the same attitude. If the short sale had gone through, the mortgage company would have lost about $12,000. But compared to going through foreclosure, that could end up looking like a bargain. ‘They’re still going to end up losing. It’s going to take time, it’s going to take money — I just don’t understand,’ Slay said.”

“‘It’s just very frustrating for both of us,’ added his wife, Colleen. ‘If you know anybody that wants a house …’”

The Oregonian “Allan Smith doesn’t know the stories behind the foreclosed homes he sells each weekday morning on the Multnomah County Courthouse steps. His job is to sell houses, not ponder why. Besides, these days everyone he encounters has some sort of financial problem or complaint, even the banks doing the foreclosing and the speculators hoping to find a deal in someone else’s suffering.”

“‘You’d think, with the financial crisis, things would be hopping,’ he said. ‘But if I sell three or four, that’s a solid week. We’re frozen here’”

“In the last quarter of 2008, homeowners defaulted on 1,054 loans in the Portland region. That’s more than half the total for all of 2007 and almost as many as in all of 2006. Several hundred homes come up for sale each week in Multnomah County. Yet most of Smith’s auctions get postponed as antsy investors decline to bid on artificially overpriced houses or banks give borrowers more time to make payments on loans they never should have taken out.”

“‘The banks and the investors are both in the business of making money,’ Smith says. ‘Buying a house you’re not going to be able to sell for a year or two isn’t a great way to do that.’”

“Affordable-housing advocates have protested a few auctions this year, arguing that banks and lax regulators are responsible for the rash of people losing their homes. Smith’s work is fairly grisly when you ponder it. Each week, he provides play by play for dozens of financial apocalypses.”

“That doesn’t depress him: ‘This is the system,’ he says. ‘You buy a house, you promise to pay it off.’”

“Tom Moyer dug a hole deep under downtown Portland last year, betting that buyers, lenders and renters wanted 32 stories of luxury real estate. He found renters to fill the offices and shops. But Moyer — a 90-year-old self-made millionaire, owner of 9 million square feet of real estate and builder of the Fox Tower — couldn’t get a loan to get out of the ground.”

“Moyer’s four decades of empire building smacked into a wreck of a recession April 10, when he halted construction on his $170 million Park Avenue West tower. That morning, Moyer paid 100 workers in the pit spiked with rebar. On Wednesday, the final three workers climbed out of the hole for the last time.”

“Park Avenue West was supposed to show off the city’s rising wealth. It was to be Portland’s fourth-tallest building at the city’s center, passed every seven minutes by a MAX train. The condos, offices and retail shops were designed to set new standards of opulence for a town wrapped in fleece. ‘This will be a sentinel to downtown,’ Lloyd Lindley, former chairman of the city’s design commission, declared in 2007.”

“Instead, the pit shows off the depths of Oregon’s economic troubles, No. 2 in the country for unemployment. For now, the economy makes the pit a civic eyesore. Plywood, barbed wire and Jersey barriers provide their own kind of sentinel. The top concrete parking floor — 40 feet below ground — stops in midspan. One column pokes up wearing a coat of concrete, then the next is naked rebar.”

“The site is framed as a snapshot of the era when easy credit and booming real estate busted. Even for Tom Moyer.”

“The crews working for Mark Sorensen’s company, R2M2 Rebar & Stressing, made their money threading rebar and wires together for the concrete column that would run up the center of the building. The company helped build Intel plants in Hillsboro, most of the Pearl District’s condos, the aerial tram and all seven buildings in the South Waterfront District. But the housing market collapse and credit crisis hit R2M2 as well.”

“Work on the core was picking up April 10 when the call went out. ‘It was just becoming a full-time deal,’ said Stan Campbell, Sorensen’s general superintendent. ‘Then it ended.’”

“Rob Frederiksen was deep in the pit when he got the call over his radio about 2 p.m.: ‘Tell everyone to grab their tools and come up out of the hole.’ I got on the job and I thought, ‘I’m pretty lucky to be here,’ he said. ‘I thought, ‘I’m here for another 18 months.’ Then ka-pow.’”

“Oregon lost 20 percent of its construction jobs between April 2008 and April 2009, far more than the national average of 13 percent. The state’s construction industry has shed 35,000 jobs since the August 2007 peak. The job cuts frustrate workers, but Frederiksen wondered: ‘Who do you blame? You think Tom Moyer, he owns half of Portland, it seems like. It just goes to show you it doesn’t matter how much pull you got or how much money you got. Everyone’s susceptible.’”

The Idaho Statesman. “The declining Treasure Valley housing market is either nearing bottom or nearing a cliff, depending on which statistic you look at. Pending sales - contracts that have been signed but not closed - are way up: 27 percent in Ada County and 39 percent in Canyon County, according to Jere Webb, an agent with Coldwell Banker who publishes…monthly statistics for real estate professionals.”

“Pending sales usually close within 45 days, so Webb expects the number of homes sold to rise significantly in the next couple months. Of course, there’s a catch. ‘A number of these could be short sales and bank-owned properties which take longer to close, and are less definite than sales of homes that aren’t distressed,’ Webb said.”

“If a significant number of these pending contracts are for distressed homes, sales prices will likely continue to fall, since such homes tend to sell below market prices. According to Webb, 37 percent of sales in Ada County and 64 percent in Canyon County in May were distressed.”

“Loan originator Doug Adams with Idaho Street Mortgage said he expects rates to stabilize. Adams said he was inundated with refinancing applications in March and April, but the pace will slow if rates keep rising. Another factor slowing closings is a raft of new government regulations and lender requirements.”

“‘What used to take four to five days to underwrite is now taking three to four weeks,’ Adams said.”

The Columbian in Washington. “A formal plan to build a Vancouver waterfront community with almost 5,000 residents and 3,500 workers was submitted to city planners. Gramor Development of Tualatin, Ore., and its local investors filed a master plan for redeveloping the former Boise Cascade paper mill site along the Columbia River. Gramor President Barry Cain called the project ‘a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to connect the community with the river.’”

“City officials have long coveted the waterfront project, not only for its potential to create jobs and generate taxes, but also for the prestige of having a prominent project on the West’s mightiest river. The overall project would include 3,000 to 3,300 residential units.”

“Residential units would be a mix of condominiums, apartments, senior housing and so-called ‘affordable’ work force housing for people earning modest wages. Cain said the first phase of construction likely would include five or six buildings offering 1 million square feet focusing on affordable and senior housing, a reflection of a sour market for luxury condominiums.”

“‘No one is going to plan on … regular condos right now,’ he said. ‘We are probably a few years away.’”

The Edmonton Journal in Canada “Economic woes, rising unemployment and a glut of condos caused the Edmonton region’s apartment vacancy rate to inch up by 1.3 per cent in April. The vacancy rate for rental apartments in the Edmonton census metropolitan area rose to 4.7 per cent in April from 3.4 per cent in April 2008, says the national housing agency’s spring rental-market survey.”

“Wood Buffalo, which includes Fort McMurray, had Alberta’s biggest vacancy increase, rocketing to 6.9 per cent from 0.1 per cent in a year. Rent for an average two-bedroom suite fell to $2,165 from$2,350. In the Calgary area, the apartment-vacancy rate more than doubled to 4.3 per cent from two per cent in the same period last year.”

“‘A lower level of employment is affecting the demand for units the rental market,’ said analyst Lai Sing Louie. ‘Landlords are responding to rising vacancies by providing incentives.’”

“‘With elevated levels of supply and inventory on the existing and new condominium markets, some investors have decided to rent out their units rather than sell them at reduced profits,’ said Richard Goatcher, senior market analyst for Edmonton.”




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Comment by Tim
2009-06-14 11:55:06

“and the speculators hoping to find a deal in someone else’s suffering.”

Criticizing those that by foreclosures claiming that they are taking advantage of others suffering really makes me sick (while I don’t mind criticism that they themselves may be knife catchers). Many are just prudent renters that want to buy a first place and were not willing to over extend. Plus, we are still above historic ratios. I can understand if we were below historical ratios and a buyer hoping for more job loss or a deadly plague to make prices even lower might be questioned, but while we are above this mark it’s a really stupid statement. Anyways, the same could be said, and more accurately, about those buying on the way up during the bubble. What is more questionable, taking advantage of prudent renters or not caring about the consequences of those buying more than they could afford due to a wealth of greed and ignorance.

Comment by jim a
2009-06-14 17:45:54

The idea that the are profiting on the suffering of others is predicated on the contention that the lower prices that they’re paying are some sort of temporary phenomena brought about by a misfortune that has hit the borrowers. To the extant that they’re being forced to sell because they lost their job, or a health crisis hit them there is a smidgen of truth here. But at the end of the day, if you can’t afford your stuff, whatever the reason, you have to sell it. And in many bubble markets, a large percentage of the people experiencing foreclosure are either people who had NO reasonable expectation of being able to make the payments that they have agreed to, or are speculators who see little reason to hang onto a declining asset when they can have the take it off their hands.

Buyers are ALWAYS looking for the lowest price and sellers the highest price. Sellers are only now discovering that nobody HAS to buy.

 
 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 12:11:12

“Instead, the pit shows off the depths of Oregon’s economic troubles, No. 2 in the country for unemployment. …
“Oregon lost 20 percent of its construction jobs between April 2008 and April 2009, far more than the national average of 13 percent. The state’s construction industry has shed 35,000 jobs since the August 2007 peak.”

What?! No, no, no—this simply cannot be. Everyone knows that we’re different here…

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oooh, and I’m especially happy the Columbia River master-planned chancre is on hold.

Comment by DennisN
2009-06-14 12:49:17

It looks like Portland will join Boise with a famous hole-in-the-ground downtown. Here in Boise an old decrepit hotel was torn down circa 2003 by a developer with dreams of building a business/condo tower of some 32 floors. Several developers have gone bankrupt but so far all we’ve got is a hole in the ground with some concrete and rebar.

I’m guessing Portland will have this ugly hole for at least a decade.

Comment by DennisN
2009-06-14 12:56:42

I did some looking around and found out the Boise Hole is even older than I thought.

On January 24, 1987 the Eastman Building on Eighth and Main in downtown Boise, ID burned to the ground. The site is one of the most sought after building sites in the northwest.

Shades of San Jose. During the 1950’s, San Jose got the urge to tear down whole blocks of old downtown buildings in the name of “urban renewal”. Then the money ran out. Whole vacant blocks sat idle for decades, covered with parking lots, trash, and vagrants. Finally towards the end of the 1980’s some money came back and they started rebuilding.

Hint to urban renewal types: get the money up front before you start tearing down otherwise-usable buildings.

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 13:30:21

get the money up front before you start tearing down otherwise-usable buildings.

It’s not just the ‘usable’ and strictly utilitarian part. We’ve lost some wonderful, beautiful, graceful old historic structures to these kinds of greedsters.
It’s a terrible tragedy, to my mind.

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Comment by brent
2009-06-14 14:49:11

Dennis I too live in Boise and always thought J.R. Simplot would end up building a legacy building there but he never did.

 
 
Comment by Rancher
2009-06-14 17:04:38

Simplot is to smart for that…he sticks with what he knows. Potatoes and land.

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Comment by DennisN
2009-06-14 17:28:44

Jack died last year.

His family is proposing a new ag museum/convention center on the two square blocks they own between Front and Myrtle.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/boise/story/779626.html

 
 
Comment by BigD
2009-06-14 19:35:14

I knew it had to be older than ‘03. I rmember it on my first visit to my duaghter in Boise in 1999. Still there…amazing. Now Portland has a blight on downtown of its own. Nice.

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2009-06-14 21:41:31

I’ve been calling on customers in Boise since 1998 and that hole was there then.

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Comment by Mike G
2009-06-14 15:11:40

The Santa Barbara waterfront, some of the most prime commercial oceanfront real estate in the country, has rotted in semi-decrepitude for the better part of a decade due to a similar situation. A shifty, overambitious developer with dreams of superluxury timeshares and stores, funding that evaporated even before the financial crisis, and a clueless city council that never bothered to get completion bonds or plan for such a contingency. What should be a bustling tourist crossroads at the foot of Stearns Wharf is a derelict collection of abandoned buildings and weedy vacant lots.

Comment by Mot
2009-06-15 01:15:12

Oww! I went through some of the rentals down there. Absolutely fantastic location - I could never figure out why it was such a dump.

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Comment by Portlandia
2009-06-15 16:31:10

Interestingly, the building in question was 55% pre-leased (to a single large firm). The problem, as I understand, is that there’s already a freshly-completed building that is 0% leased.

 
 
Comment by BanteringBear
2009-06-14 14:29:08

“Instead, the pit shows off the depths of Oregon’s economic troubles, No. 2 in the country for unemployment.”

When one looks at listings for homes and land on the mls in Oregon, it gives the illusion of an exceedingly wealthy place where rich people flourish. But, a quick look median income and unemployment reveals an absolutely shocking chasm. Goodnight, Oregon.

Comment by CCG
2009-06-15 15:14:15

Yep. I looked at some prices in Lincoln City, where I used to live, and they’re still in complete fantasy land. Prices around Devil’s Lake are comparable ($500K and up) to those here on Lake Sammamish in Redmond, WA. Apparently I should quit MSFT and go work in the hospitality business.

Comment by Ernst Blofeld
2009-06-15 19:24:09

Everything on the coast is still delusional. You see the same dynamic farther south at Florence and Bandon. They’re trying to maintain two-years-ago prices, and it they’re not getting takers.

Lots of million-plus homes that no longer have greater equity fools from California to become bag-holders.

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Comment by DennisN
2009-06-14 19:49:16

I read the whole story now. This Moyer guy is 90 years old. I wonder how many more years he expects to be wheeler-dealering around Portland.

Moyer launched the work based on his intuition and his own fortune. He figured that once he dug the hole, the tenants would sign on, followed by the lender.

I don’t get it. Don’t you arrange the financing FIRST?

Comment by MacAttack
2009-06-16 13:58:08

Don’t know if this will post - but I’ll try. This building was 55% pre-leased - by a single, stable client - but stopped anyway. I’m led to understand there already exists another building that is 0% leased, and that’s what put the brakes on this one. The building crane will be left in place, by agreement with the crane owner (nowhere else to move it?)

 
 
 
Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-14 12:21:18

Hi Oly! :)

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 12:35:25

Hi Ate!

…Hey, wait, what happened to the comical giant clam part of your name?
*gasp *
Can it be…are you…are you turning your back on giant comical clams?! :)

 
 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 12:50:27

ATE, I took three days off last week and I spent my time wisely, by lounging about drinking beer and idly fondling ferns in the woods and counting and sorting my shoes and suchlike valuable pursuits.
Anyway, I found an old stack of ‘New Yorker’ magazine I never finished, and the reason I mention this to you is that I encountered an article titled ‘The Abyss’, by Dr. Oliver Sacks (this is Sept 24, 2007) and it was about a poor soul, an English man named Clive Wearing who freakishly got encephalitis and lost his whole entire memory. Complete amnesia. His head doesn’t work anymore. He experiences consciousness in increments of about 30 seconds or so. He has all these journals filled with entries reading:
9:30—Okay, I woke up.
9:50–Okay, now I woke up. This time I really mean it. I did.
10:32—Okay, now I’m awake, at long last. I am alive. Serious, this time for real.

DON’T EVER READ THAT ARTICLE. Okay?
Truly, since you suffer from the same affliction I do, which is getting the symptoms of whatever you read about, just believe me here. Make a note to yourself to avoid that issue like the freakin’ plague.
I spent at least 3 hours wondering if I was really me, or else just a fanciful beet out in a field somewhere, trying to write a journal, ‘Okay, I’m not a beet anymore’, and so forth.
It was terrible. I had to drink about 5 beers before I recovered and decided I was probably not a beet after all.

Comment by bink
2009-06-14 13:00:22

So now you’re a pickled beet?

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 13:13:49

No, I’m NOT a beet! …I’m pretty sure.

*wrings hands anxiously and hopes I’m correct in this matter *

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 13:19:09

But I do love pickled beets. I pickled a whole bunch about 3 years ago, 60 little pint jars with the plan to enjoy them allllll winter long, but instead I ate them all in about 10 days.
I love pickled anything. Except wait, no…not pickled jellyfish. I hate that. That and Aunt Marla’s yams are the only things I’ve ever met that I hate to eat. Also some kinds of gravel are not as tasty as you’d hope. (I recall that from my rock-eating childhood days.)

Anyway, I dearly hope I’m not a pickled beet, as that would be cannibalish.

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Comment by crash1
2009-06-14 15:50:58

Are those little geoducks edible? Pickled?

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 18:23:15

Are those little geoducks edible?

Oh, they’re not ‘little’.
*snicker *
And they’re REALLY tasty!
Behold! And snicker!

http://tinyurl.com/nux4cd

 
 
Comment by Rancher
2009-06-14 17:06:31

Pickled eggs?

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Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 18:25:16

Oh, yar! Yummy! Fished out from a glaucousy fluid-filled glass gallon jar sitting by the cash register in a primitive little town is best for primo pickled eggs.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jim a
2009-06-14 18:19:35

I had that for a day as a result of a concussion. Of course I don’t remember it, but apparantly I was very tiresome to be around, repeating the same thing over and over infinitum.

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 18:27:02

What? …What?…What?

*giggle *

I’m glad you only had it for a day. Jim.
Jim.
Jim.

So, did anyone play amusing pranks on you for that day?
Actually, I guess you wouldn’t know if they had, would you. :)

 
 
 
Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-14 13:18:04

Oly, I don’t have to read the article. What you just told me convinces me I have that condition! I figure, if you can’t beet them join them!

P.S. Some of our friends here don’t like geo-ducks like you and me Oly Gal, so, out of respect ya know? :)

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 13:25:44

I figure, if you can’t beet them join them!

Nyuk, nyuk! :lol:

What?! Some HBBer persons don’t like geo-ducks?! That’s crazy-talk! Have they ever met and consumed a geoduck?
Why, geoducks are the freakin’ pinnacle of evolutionary attainment! ‘Live on the beach, never move, just lie in the sand being delicious and squirting fluids around’? Man, geo-duck life is where it’s at!

Until some sunburned chick scampers along and digs you up and eats you with pickled ginger and rice. But even that might not be as bad as it sounds. Shoots, there are worse ways to go out, I imagine.

 
Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 14:55:29

*funny clam test! *

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 15:42:47

Well, shoots. I failed my ‘funny clam test *
That’s kinda disgraceful.

Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-14 16:11:35

Beets me why you flunked, Oly…

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Comment by bink
2009-06-14 18:12:27

If there’s one thing I’ve learned to avoid in life… it’s a funny clam.

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Comment by crash1
2009-06-14 15:53:49

Daughter went to school at Evergreen. Odd having a clam for a school mascot. Very odd.

Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 16:18:54

Naw—this is a truly awesome clam, and fully worthy of mascot-age. You must see it to believe it.

But anyway, crashy, it gets even funnier! The Evergreen school motto is: ‘Omnia Extares’. Which means, “let it all hang out”.
Yes, really!

*merry chortling *

….Say, did your daughter reveal that fact to you when you asked her if she was becoming well-acquainted with her new campus? Or was that one of the details of her education that she mercifully chose to spare you?
:lol:

Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-14 16:25:06

It really beets me why you would add that kind of stress to a good Mom.

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Comment by ATE-UP
2009-06-14 16:51:19

1st verse
They told him dont you ever come around here
Dont wanna see your face, you better disappear
The fires in their eyes and their words are really clear
So beet it, just beet it
2nd verse
You better run, you better do what you can
Dont wanna see no blood, dont be a macho man
You wanna be tough, better do what you can
So beet it, but you wanna be bad

Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right
Just beet it, beet it
Just beet it, beet it
Just beet it, beet it
Just beet it, beet it

3rd verse
Theyre out to get you, better leave while you can
Dont wanna be a boy, you wanna be a man
You wanna stay alive, better do what you can
So beet it, just beet it

4th verse
You have to show them that youre really not scared
Youre playin with your life, this aint no truth or dare
Theyll kick you, then they beet you,
Then theyll tell you its fair
So beet it, but you wanna be bad

Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right
Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it

Chorus
Beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right

Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or whos right
Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right
Chorus
Just beet it, beet it, beet it, beet it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin how funky strong is your fighter
It doesnt matter whos wrong or right
Just beet it, beet it
Beet it, beet it, beet it

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Comment by Olympiagal
2009-06-14 18:28:02

That’s…that’s so beautiful

 
 
Comment by crash1
2009-06-14 17:20:07

I was glad to be spared all the details. I noticed something unusual on my first trip out. There were people living in the forest. One of her classmates lived in a sailboat out in the bay and drowned trying to cross after consuming quantities of alcohol. I don’t think they ever found him. Anyway, I still have a t-shirt with the geoduck and the phrase you mentioned. Nobody can guess what it is and what it means. Anyway, she met an exceptional man there and got married at the Schmidt House. I have a few fond memories of Olympia.

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Comment by crash1
2009-06-14 17:33:03

Post just got consumed…. Yes, I was aware of the school motto. I noticed there were people living in the forest. Also quite unusual. Anyway, she graduated, married at the Schmidt House, and went on to great and wonderful things. I still wear a t-shirt with the strange little clam flying through the air and the school motto. Nobody can guess that one.

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Comment by DennisN
2009-06-14 17:33:44

Heck I graduated from UC Santa Cruz, whose mascot is the banana slug.

Not just any banana slug mind you.

We are the “fighting banana slugs”.

 
Comment by Portlandia
2009-06-15 16:34:36

Hey! The University of California, Santa Cruz, has a banana slug for a mascot!

 
 
 
Comment by Ernst Blofeld
2009-06-14 13:23:56

SacBee Published: Sunday, Jun. 14, 2009 - 12:00 am
OKLAHOMA CITY – Fleeing the Great Depression and a drought unprecedented in American history, a vast wave of Oklahomans and Texans dubbed “Okies” loaded everything they could onto crowded vehicles during the 1930s and headed west for California. Today, in huge numbers, their grandchildren are moving back.

From 2004 through 2007, about 275,000 Californians left the Golden State for the old Dust Bowl states of Oklahoma and Texas, twice the number that left those two states for California, recent Internal Revenue Service figures show. In fact, the mid-South gained more residents from California during those four years than either Oregon, Nevada or Arizona. The trend continued into 2008.

SacBee Published: Saturday, Jun. 13, 2009

After a severe economic storm of more than 365,000 California foreclosures since early 2007, the state’s long-awaited 90-day foreclosure moratorium law goes into effect Monday.

Backers say it will make lenders try harder to keep borrowers in homes. Starting Monday, loan servicers must prove to the state they have comprehensive loan modification programs in place – or be denied rights to foreclose on their own schedules.

Comment by az_lender
2009-06-14 21:24:27

Why sure, but that last “severe storm” of foreclosures was the end result of the previous FC moratorium, wasn’t it?

 
 
Comment by Kim
2009-06-14 14:17:38

“If a significant number of these pending contracts are for distressed homes, sales prices will likely continue to fall, since such homes tend to sell below market prices. According to Webb, 37 percent of sales in Ada County and 64 percent in Canyon County in May were distressed.”

Not so long ago real estate agents were doing everything they could to convince buyers - and assure sellers - that distressed properties weren’t appropriate comps. A couple years ago, a used house saleswoman on the HGTV boards said that she typed “Foreclosure - Not To Be Used As Comps” in the agent remarks section on the MLS when she sold a distressed property. Wonder how well that works at a 64% distressed sales level?

Comment by az_lender
2009-06-14 18:49:50

“below market prices” = below sucker prices

Comment by SV_Renter
2009-06-15 14:58:18

This reminds me of a recent conversation at an open house on the same street as our rental. I mentioned to the realtor that there was an identical house one street over being offered for 100,000 less. His response - “oh, but that’s a short sale.” So, I guess I was supposed to respond “Oh - a short sale. Well, I guess it’s completely irrelevent then. I’ll gladly pay 100,000 more for this special house.” ??

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2009-06-14 15:44:02

Key Quotes from Biden on the Stimulus

“No one realized how bad the economy was. The projections, in fact, turned out to be worse. But we took the mainstream model as to what we thought — and everyone else thought — the unemployment rate would be.”

“Everyone guessed wrong at the time the estimate was made about what the state of the economy was at the moment this was passed.”

“The bottom line is that jobs are being created that would not have been there before.”

“Can I claim credit that all of that’s due to the recovery package? No. But it clearly has had an impact.”

 
Comment by hip in zilker
2009-06-14 16:41:52

“The condos, offices and retail shops were designed to set new standards of opulence for a town wrapped in fleece.”

I don’t understand what that means, the wrapped in fleece part. Is it equivalent to stating of the new hip urban Austin:
“The condos, offices and retail shops were designed to set new standards of opulence for a town shod in flip-flops”?

2009-06-14 21:17:51

yeah…basically…portlanders aren’t very “opulent” — think “grunge”

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2009-06-14 17:43:45

“Moyer’s four decades of empire building smacked into a wreck of a recession April 10, when he halted construction on his $170 million Park Avenue West tower. That morning, Moyer paid 100 workers in the pit spiked with rebar. On Wednesday, the final three workers climbed out of the hole for the last time.”

PAID their workers in rebar? Do I read that correctly????

Looks like three workers didn’t like the deal and did not want to come out.

Comment by Will
2009-06-15 14:08:45

“Moyer’s four decades of empire building smacked into a wreck of a recession April 10, when he halted construction on his $170 million Park Avenue West tower. That morning, Moyer paid 100 workers in the pit spiked with rebar. On Wednesday, the final three workers climbed out of the hole for the last time.”

Sounds to me like they spent the Weekend drinking that spiked rebar and then slept it off on Monday, and Tuesday.

 
 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2009-06-14 21:42:38

NODs in Portland numbered in the 30s per week in 2005-2006. Now they regularly number around 125-150 per week.

 
Comment by pete
2009-06-15 08:42:36

check this out

http://realestate.yahoo.com/Foreclosures/time-to-unleash-real-estate-investors;_ylt=AieHHJGf6wotwdyJw8viC5EsZcMF

A study by RealtyTrac compared homes held by banks with homes actually listed on local MLS systems. The result? RealtyTrac’s senior vice president Rick Sharga estimates that only 30 percent of bank-owned properties are listed and that 600,000 to 700,000 foreclosed homes nationwide are being held off the market by lenders.

“If lenders opened the foreclosure floodgates and listed every bank-owned property for sale the marketplace impact would be catastrophic,” says Sharga. “If the homes now held by lenders were immediately offered for sale home prices would fall, property tax collections would plummet, unemployment would instantly rise and the economy would quickly deteriorate. By keeping foreclosed homes off the market lenders have reduced the inventory of homes available for sale and thus prevented housing prices from dropping further.

“Alternatively,” says Sharga, “the cost of holding hundreds of thousands of homes is enormous and cannot continue indefinitely. If the inventory of unsold properties is not reduced or eliminated the results will damage the entire economy.”

 
Comment by MacAttack
2009-06-15 16:37:29

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