Bits Bucket For August 21, 2009
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
Post off-topic ideas, links and Craigslist finds here. Please visit the HBB Forum. And see the American Visionaries series from Schwarzfilm.
NEW YORK (AP) — Penny-pinching Americans are getting cold feet at the checkout — thinking twice about spending and ditching items before they’re rung up.
They’re leaving sweaters in the dress department, dumping cookies near the grocery cashier and waiting until the last minute to judge needs versus wants. Online, shoppers are consumers are abandoning their virtual carts as they search for better deals.
People “want to be in the act of shopping, but they don’t want to be in the act of buying,” said Joel Bines, a director at AlixPartners, a turnaround consultant.
It means more lost sales for stores at a time when there are already fewer customers because of the recession. For bricks-and-mortar shops already working with fewer staff, it also means higher labor costs because orphaned items have to be restocked.
Hard numbers are difficult to come by, but Burt P. Flickinger III, a retail consultant, estimates that in 25 percent of shoppers’ trips to the store, they’re ditching at least one item. In the recession of the early 1990s, it was 15 to 20 percent. In good times, it’s more like 10 percent.
Ashley Nichols Guttuso of Midlothian, Va., dumped a red cardigan last week at the counter at the local Limited store after she found out she couldn’t use a $15 store coupon on the $15 sweater.
Guttoso says she could have afforded it, but she has focused on necessities since losing her job as a copywriter for Circuit City in January, as the chain was preparing to go out of business.
“I went in there thinking I could get something for free,” said the 27-year-old. “I couldn’t rationalize it — even spending $15 to $20. I am watching everything now.”
Customers are asking cashiers to provide a total while they’re still scanning items to see where they stand, or to have necessities like health care basics scanned first, said Dan Fishback, chief executive of DemandTec Inc., a retail technology company. When they hit their limit, they forgo what’s left in the basket.
Lower credit limits are also contributing to the abandonment. Shoppers say credit card transactions are being denied if they go over their limit just a bit, said Ben Woosley, director of marketing and consumer research at CreditCards.com. In the past, issuers would often approve purchases up to 10 percent over the limit.
Bricks-and-mortar stores can’t do much but clarify prices on products to prevent sticker shock in the checkout aisle. Web stores are taking bolder actions, including sending e-mails to remind customers about abandoned items, simplifying the online checkout process and offering extra discounts to lasso would-be quitters.
“When they hit their limit, they forgo what’s left in the basket”.
I remember several years ago standing behind a guy in a check-out line that went through 6 credit cards to find one with room left to charge on. He was in his mid 50’s.
Got cash?
Hi combo, I hope all is well.
“Penny-pinching Americans are getting cold feet at the checkout — thinking twice about spending and ditching items before they’re rung up.”
This article perpetuates the fantasy that the drop off in US consumption is due to some kind of conscious collective decision by US consumers to cut back on expenditures — as though all of middle America suddenly developed an aversion to shopping. I suppose you can keep on thinking about spending money you don’t have until you are cold and dead.
This article perpetuates the fantasy that the drop off in US consumption is due to some kind of conscious collective decision by US consumers to cut back on expenditures …
As well as perpetuating the meme that any slowdown or turbulence in economic recovery is consumers’ fault.
Yeah this doesn’t help either.
this doesn’t help
That’s a graph that doesn’t take too long to interpret.
packman, is the data for that series available for earlier years? I’d like to see how much equity went up with valuations, vs how much was borrowed out and spent during the boom years.
packman, is the data for that series available for earlier years? I’d like to see how much equity went up with valuations, vs how much was borrowed out and spent during the boom years.
Yep
thanks for those, pack
Very interesting—thanks packman!
Anyone want to make predictions as to the shape of the equity curve over the next 20yrs?
Oh my.
Welcome!
Hey, Combo!
Nice to see you again, Sir.
Yeah, where HAVE you been, man?
Wait, wait, I know….playing with your pretty money! I bet you’ve been flinging out bushel baskets of fluttery green dollar bills in your living room and then rolling around in the mounds, squealing and kicking up your feet, and then you sit up and make a few dollar-bill origami cranes and hopping frogs, and then rub your whole body lasciviously with your favorite currency, and then maybe make get a stapler and make yourself a dollar-bill hula-skirt!
And I approve of this.
Yeah, where HAVE you been, man?
Wait, wait, I know….playing with your pretty money! I bet you’ve been flinging out bushel baskets of fluttery green dollar bills in your living room and then rolling around in the mounds, squealing and kicking up your feet, and then you sit up and make a few dollar-bill origami cranes and hopping frogs, and then rub your whole body lasciviously with your favorite currency, and then maybe make get a stapler and make yourself a dollar-bill hula-skirt!
And I approve of this.
Being that 90% of cash has some coke in it, that kind of behavior can actually be self-perpetuating.
Being that 90% of cash has some coke in it, that kind of behavior can actually be self-perpetuating.
Wow! Just one more benefit of the whole ’stash cash’ plan!
combo,
So glad to see your post. When I saw your name I actually gasped
I hope everything is going well for the “cash is king”
Hmm, people’s first Christmas w/card limits. Watch out for stressed out soccer Moms et al on the road.
It ain’t the soccer moms that scare me. It is the roid-rage dads in a too-big 4WD truck that are normally agressive drivers suddenly discovering that they can only buy either the $600 toy for junior or the $900 toy for themselves.
Those guys scare me on any given day. I can’t imagine what the combination of snow, holiday stress, credit-limits, and the couple bud-lights they’ll consume in the mall TGI-Friday’s while deciding if they’ll return the toy for themselves so junior can have his plastic junk will have on his driving abilities.
8-year old Jimmy may not be able to go to his week long hockey tournament in Toronto, playing teams from around North America, staying at the Marriott.
It’s just like the Great Depression.
rotfl
My gosh. The boy’s finished as a contender now! Finished I tell you.
That’s even more scary when one notes that some stores have already begun their holiday sales.
What’s it like to base so much of one’s life around one single time of year?
That guy in his mid-50’s wouldn’t be able to do that today. Credit cards don’t get rejected anymore — they let it go through, and slam you with an overcharge fee.
Even worse, they’ve begun doing this with debit cards too, right at the ATM. If nothing else, it will teach people to keep at least $100 extra in checking. If they can’t do that, then it’s time to do some serious reassessment, including considering BK.
My credit card came close to blowing past its limit last month. I was trying to order printing, and the company called and asked for alternate payment. So, I sent ‘em a check instead.
So, Slim has a card with a hard limit. And I like that in a credit card.
Last fall someone here posted that a 5% decline in retail sales would be devastating, but also added that it would also be impossible for the average person to notice.
So what does it mean when the decline is being widely noticed?
“So what does it mean when the decline is being widely noticed?” -that would have to mean that the bottom is here. A true green shoot if there ever was one. Any economist could see that.
Hey loosers, why don’t you put the crap you changed your mind about back on the shelves where you got it. And while you’re at it, put the carts back in the cart return.
But then the crap putter-backer would lose his job.
When I worked at a grocery store, putting things back where they belong was my favorite job. It gave you time to think about other stuff, was less of a social task than being a cashier, and satisfied some strange need that I have to organize things.
But then the crap putter-backer would lose his job.
Gasp! That’s a great way to look at it! In the past, when I’ve gotten to the checkout line and decided I didn’t want all that pickled herring after all, why, I’ve always dutifully trotted it back to where it went, no matter the cost to my line-waiting seniority.
But no more! I’ll think of the cr*ap putter-backer and of his/her need for employment!
I’ll will NEVER put anything back again! Oh, the freedom!
Thank you, slothy, thank you!
For 6 yrs+ now since the -35% income reduction occurred, I have been doing the line up on the check out as well.
Here is how it goes, I tally as best I can in my head= nuf said, then the first things are ‘I HAVE to have, then the not so much, then the “gum and magazine” at the end’.
If I tallied correctly, ring it up and bag it, done deal, if not, the “gum and magazine” gets left for the ‘crap putter backer’.
CASH and, NO I don’t want the store cc, thank you.
Cuz then you lose your place in line.
In my neighborhood many carts have locked wheels I wonder what that means?
Souring Prime Loans Compound Mortgage Woes.
Programs Designed to Prevent Foreclosures Face Pressure.
WSJ 8-21-09
A survey found that one in eight U.S. households with mortgages was in foreclosure or behind on its mortgage payments during the second quarter, putting added pressure on programs aimed at preventing foreclosures.
While foreclosure starts have slowed on the subprime loans that ignited the mortgage and banking crisis, loans extended to borrowers with good credit are deteriorating at a faster clip as falling home prices and mounting job losses weigh on more households.
The Mortgage Bankers Association said its latest survey, released Thursday, showed that 13.2% of mortgages on homes with one to four units were at least a month overdue or in the foreclosure process in the April-to-June period, up from 12.1% in the first quarter and 9% a year earlier.
As home sales have picked up in recent months, some were expecting foreclosures and delinquencies to ease. But Jay Brinkmann, chief economist at the MBA, said foreclosures weren’t expected to peak until later in 2010 when the economy improves.
“Just because we see prices level off doesn’t necessarily mean we’ll see a big reduction in foreclosures,” said Mr. Brinkmann, in part because many homeowners would still owe more than their homes were worth.
Deteriorating prime loans are increasingly behind the steady rise in delinquencies and foreclosures. Among prime loans, 9% were past due or in foreclosure at the end of June, up from 5.35% one year ago. For subprime loans, those for borrowers with weak credit records or high debts relative to income, the rate was 39.5%, compared with 30% last year.
Prime loans, however, accounted for 58% of foreclosure starts, up from 44% last year. Meanwhile, subprime mortgages accounted for 33% of foreclosure starts, down from 49%. Prime fixed-rate mortgages, usually considered among the safest of all loan types, accounted for one in three foreclosure starts, up from one in five.
This is precisely what we predicted. I would, however, like to know how many of those foreclosures are due to a job loss, and how many are due to I/O grace periods running out. (plenty of “prime” loans were people with good credit cashing out their primary residence into an ARM and buying toys. Especially in California, where prices were really inflated.)
“The Mortgage Bankers Association said its latest survey, released Thursday, showed that 13.2% of mortgages on homes with one to four units were at least a month overdue or in the foreclosure process in the April-to-June period,”
If you add back all the homes that have completed foreclosure in the past 2 years, I wonder what that percent would rise to?
13.2% of the remaining mortgages are behind. That doesn’t count all the homes already lost in the last 2 years.
F.D.I.C. Seeks to Attract More Buyers of Banks. August 20, 2009
Faced with a growing wave of bank failures, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation is taking extraordinary steps to attract buyers for troubled institutions to keep the fund that makes depositors whole from being drained.
Federal regulators are planning next week to make it easier for private equity firms to buy insolvent lenders, according to people briefed on the situation, a move that would reduce the number of failed banks that the fund would have to support. It is also trying to entice buyers by agreeing to share some of the potential losses from failed banks. And it is retooling one of its main financing programs to make it cheaper for bidders to buy the toxic assets of closed lenders.
“At this point, they are looking hard at as many solutions as possible,” said Frederick Cannon, the chief equity analyst at Keefe, Bruyette & Woods. “When you have this many bad loans at these banks, there are no easy fixes.”
For the F.D.I.C., led by Sheila C. Bair, it is critically important to keep the insurance fund full because confidence in the banking system depends in part on depositors knowing they will get their money back. But the fund, which is also used to cover losses at insolvent banks, has fallen to just $13 billion at the end of March, the latest month for which figures are available, down from $52.8 billon a year ago, as the number of bank failures accelerates. Because many of the troubled banks are small and their losses relatively large, few buyers are snapping them up. Even worse, buyers are reluctant to pick up illiquid assets, like troubled commercial real estate and construction loans that may continue to hemorrhage losses.
So far this year, 77 lenders have been closed, compared with 25 in 2008. Of those, the F.D.I.C. has found buyers for 69.
Analysts are bracing for dozens of additional failures, especially among small and medium-size banks that have made huge numbers of real estate loans that are not being paid back.
“F.D.I.C. Seeks to Attract More Buyers of Banks. August 20, 2009″
“Homeowners Seek to Attract More Buyers of Homes. August 20, 2009″
“Car Dealerships Seek to Attract More Buyers of Cars. August 20, 2009″
“Mexican Restaurants Seek to Attract More Buyers of Mexican Food. August 20, 2009″
“Computer Makers Seek to Attract More Buyers of Computers. August 20, 2009″
“Unexpected Raise In Unemployment Claims” August 20, 2008
Yeah, I’d say the markets have “decoupled” all right. Just not the way they think.
I can just see the conversations between Sheila and Mr. Jones, the fictional hedge fund manager.
S: So, you wanna buy a bank?
J: Maybe. So what’s your pitch?
S: Well this little bank has 10 great locations, mostly nestled into the banking districts with all the other bank buildings.
J: What else would I get?
S: There’s a long list of assets with their book values right here. As you can see there’s….
J: Whoa, wait a minute. Did you say book values?
S: We yes, but….
J: Well what are the market values?
S: This CD here has a formula on it that will give you an estimate of what they could be worth if you hold onto them.
J: I say again. What are the market values?
S: According to regulations, you can just record them at book so market value really doesn’t…
J: I say AGAIN. What are the market values?
S: No one knows because everyone is keeping these things on their books, at book value.
J: I think I’ll just wait until after the bankruptcy and I’ll buy the pieces I want.
S: But you’ll miss out on a great opportunity!
J: Oh?
S: If you don’t buy now, you’ll miss the opportunity to share in the losses!
J: Uh huh.
S: There’s a limited quantity.
J: Until next Friday, Sheila?
S: Um, maybe. I can’t disclose that. So, do you want to snap one up?
J: Bye
Hey, I’ve got a brilliant idea! How about we use a phony color-coded alert system to let us know how the economy is doing? Have the color green at the top (green shoots) to represent that the economy is doing well and people should spend money. We could have yellow in between and brown at the bottom to represent when the economy is in the crapper. We could have Timmay or Benny raise and lower the level of confidence. You know, kind of like how Tom Ridge used to do it for the terror alerts.
Palmy, that is a novel idea, except before long, all the bars will be black! Hey, it looks like Bill is gonna miss you, I hope so.
You know it would just stay pegged at the top of the green at all times. Bouncing off the rev-limiter in an never-ending stutter of fake prosperity.
I presume you’re speaking of the color coded “terrorism” alert that was used to sway the 2004 election.
When you can’t win on public policy positions, resort to lies and fraud.
Those oscillations between yellow and orange in the summer of 2004 were so obvious it wasn’t even funny.
Too bad the populace was so distracted by all those screamin’ housing deals back then to notice the baldfaced manipulation.
Those oscillations between yellow and orange in the summer of 2004 were so obvious it wasn’t even funny.
It was doubly bad if you were flying around a major holiday prior to an election. At least for international flights there would be rational security at one end of the flight.
Nice job Speaker Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table.
“Nice job Speaker Pelosi for taking impeachment off the table.”
That should have been a huge clue to everyone as to what to expect from Bammy and the Dems. Yeah, Bammy just wants to “move on”. I say it’s because they want license to pull the same crap, therefore don’t want to do anything about it.
It really will surprise me if some city doesn’t bring suit against Homeland Security for those terror alerts. My recollection is that going from yellow to orange invoked a higher level of procedures for local police and first responders, which cost $$$. Ridge was effectively robbing cities of tax money.
Ridgewas effectively robbing cities of tax money.Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Ashcroft
:vomit: The thought of that clan of criminals gives me the heebee-geebee’s.
Good Morning:
First of all, I have read the posts by all of the posters, and it makes for great reading. The posts are funny, informative, and generally provokes a healthy debate.
I have been mulling over NYC post of a couple of days ago, and how we got to the 70’s. I also grew up in the 70’s as a kid, and I saw the store from the outside, as I grew up in a foreign country, and even that austere living was way higher than what I saw around me.
I think that in order to comprehend the 70’s we need to go back to the Great Depression, and the offspring of that. WW2.
During the GD1, the US was a primarily agricultural country, with heavy doses of industrialization. At the onset of WW2, lingering economic issues made for a short recession, that was killed with the attack on pearl harbor.
After WW2, there were only 2 industrialized countries. The US and the Soviet Union. Both had its areas of influence, and in the US area of influence we were the only game in town.
We rebuilt our sphere of influence and got countries like Japan, Germany, France, the UK, etc back on their feet through selling them not only factories, but the loans to make the factories.
Cue in the growth that the 50’s, and 60’s saw, but at the end of the 60’s those countries’ industrial production was almost ramped up and ready to be used. They slowly starting producing things for local production, and slowly displaced US companies in production, as local production was cheaper.
Que in the ’70s. Most of us who grew up in the 70’s had parents that were a result of growing up the 50’s, not the 60’s. Their view of life was one of hard work, but the company would take care of you from the cradle to the grave (in fact my father retired from the company that he worked for for 24 years). We saw a decade of stability, but all around us it was anything but.
Latin America got the Che guevara bug. It was recolution, nationalization, and green go home all over. US companies where (in some cases rightfully) vilifed. In the ME, the oild shiks wanted more money and went on strike.
In the US, the Carter years, and then what I think killed the manufacturing in the US. The clean air act (a really good idea, really badly implemented!). Signed by Ronald Reagan.
At the end of the ’70s it was obvious that the US products, even though were really good, had a problem. They were very, very expensive for the rest of the world. The rest of the world stopped buying them. Nike’s in my little corner of the world were a luxury. You could get a chinese (Taiwan) made knockoff for 10% of the cost.
We in essence priced our products, and ourselves out of the global market place. There are products, that are so specialized, that only the US can make, and maybe a handfull of other players, but for the bulk of things, ie. a car, most other countries can make them at a fraction of paying the UAW, Managament, the huge CEO bonus, etc.
In conclusion, the last 20-30 years have been about reliving something that just can not happen. We need to get competitive again, but things like Huge Management bonuses, UAW, etc, are making it really, really hard to do. If labor has to take a hit, so does management. No more 500 Million dollar bonuses for fracking a company. No more “but according to the UNION that is not my job!.”
It has to start with all of us. There will be great opportuinity in the future. The worse thing that we can do is cling to the past, and save the usavable.
Pinch, that was a good post. I agree 100%.
“The worse thing that we can do is cling to the past, and save the usavable.”
True, and despite all the denial out there the decision to leave the past in the dust has already been made for us. An entire legion of genies have been left out of their bottles - the biggest being globalization.
… then what I think killed the manufacturing in the US. The clean air act (a really good idea, really badly implemented!). Signed by Ronald Reagan.
You think that’s what killed American manufacturing? It was already on its last legs.
American management got slow and complacent, disregarded quality control, and allowed shoddy products out the door — among other things, the ’70s are notorious for the rapid decline in fit-and-finish of all sorts of items, including cars, musical instruments, and major appliances. American manufacturing was coasting, and declining quality and rising overhead is a deadly combo, enough to put the brakes on any industry.
You are right. The manufacturing sector was declining all throughout the ’70s.
There are few if any interesting american cars made in the ’70s, and everything else was not getting any better.
Yet, it was not dead. Add on the burdensome clean air act requirements, and you get an increase in cost that was simply unbearable for manufacturing. It was intended to clean up the environment. What it did was ship off manufacturing over seas where there were no controls.
It is akin to taking a patient with AIDS, Cancer, and Leukemia, and having him run a 30 mile marathon with no water, and having him die in route. You can argue that it was either of the 4 things, or the combination of them that killed the patient.
Now, even the crappy stuff that was made in the USA in the ’70’s is a much better product than the crap that is Made in China in the 2000’s. The chinese stuff is just bad.
You can argue that it was either of the 4 things, or the combination of them that killed the patient.
True enough, when you put it that way …
I think “getting competitive again” is far, far harder than you think it is pinch. You are asking Americans to assume a similar standard of living of our competitors, the Chinese & Indians.
People make the assumption that Americans are somehow superior in willingness to work, inventiveness, or some other way. They are wrong. America was a global economic engine because we had no competitors, we had the know-how, we had the raw materials and we had the infrastructure.
We have given the know-how away, the raw materials can be shipped anywhere now, and anyone can build infrastructure.
The only way for Americans to compete is to do what everyone else in the world does: protect our markets from slave-wage competition. Otherwise, we will all eventually get slave wages.
For that we would have to break down the costs associated with the products.
How much is labor.
How much is debt payment.
How much is transportation.
How much are taxes.
How much is regulatory and compliance.
How much is materials, warehousing, distribution, etc.
How much is sales and marketing.
In the past a lot of manufacturing costs were labor related, but even here, manufacturing labor was relatively cheap and plentiful. How many people in the rust belt would give their right arm for any job?
Even if the labor in chindia is at 10 dollars a day, how much of that production is bad/defective/returned due to low quality issues?
How much product is really made in a typical chinese factory vs. a Us factory (efficiency factor).
In my field I have dealt with a lot of India based support. My experience is that a fairly knowledgable Indian support person is making about 35 to 45K a year. They do start at about 8-10 per hour, but quickly move up. In essence the labor rate differential is quickly shrinking, and making it less attractive to outsource to India.
Same thing is going to happen to chinese products. People are going to get tired of throwing money away in cheap disposable products, and will want to buy a more expensive product that lasts longer.
I remember when Japanese products were considered junk. The Chinese will begin to manufacture products at all levels of quality. Doing so is not rocket science, it just takes good engineers, quality materials, and good processes. All of those things are learnable, as the Japanese have shown us.
And China still has 1.3 billion people who have been untouched by their manufacturing growth. Even while some specialty workers move up to manufacturing high quality, innovative products, they’ll still be competing for wages against hundreds of millions of hungry peasants.
There really is nothing we can do that they can’t do, only cheaper.
In my recollection Taiwanese products never improved their quality. Korean also score rather badly. Thailand never really took off, even though Dell laptops and Intel chips are made there.
Not all of the oriental countries have the appropriate culture to match the Japanese Miracle.
The Japanese miracle also had a lot to do with a happy confluence of events that propelled them into super stardom.
And as little as I know of Japanese culture, that particular culture stands out from the rest in one basic tenet…. That the work they do, is a work of art. Sushi is a great example!.
“You are asking Americans to assume a similar standard of living of our competitors, the Chinese & Indians.”
Thats going to happen whether we want to or not. The next few years are going to be ‘interesting’ as that realization slowly sinks in.
+1
There’s a reason why Japan was taking over Asia before we knocked them back in the 1940’s. They are the Germans of the east - simply better at producing things than their peers.
Taiwan proved that product quality is more a function of culture than a function of economic/political system. As you say - they never got their act together with regards to quallity, despite having a much freer system than China.
There seems to be an underlying assumption that US goods are high quality. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. Cars come to mind as a ’sometimes no’ example.
(+1 was to Pinch’s comments)
Al
The US is a big place. Things will vary by region.
Are there good things? Yes.
Are there mediocre things? Yes
Are there bad things? Oh yes….
Overall though, the quality of things that the US built and exported in the middle of the century, 1950-1970 were so far ahead of the competition, that it is not funny. The US was driving V8 powered 350HP cars, while the rest of the world was lucky to get a 45 to 50 HP car. Very lucky indeed.
My parents in 1968 bought a washer, dryer, and refrigerator from Sears. All 3 still are around working. The refrigerator has been rechared 3 times in 40 years. I would think that qualifies as quality products.
We often forget that the rest of the world is just catching up to us in terms of available things for their populations. These things have been taken for granted here for so long, that we often forget that they are luxuries in a lot of places.
As I said in my post, my ’70s experience was looking into the store from the outside. My perception was totally different. My US counterparts had a color tv, that actually got color TV reception!. They had 8 tracks… They had a washer, dryer, and a nice car. I was one of the few people in my circle of friends whose house had a washer/dryer. Everyone else had a maid/mother/syster that washed the clothes by hand!.
So, yes, US products were far ahead of the competition quality wise. You might not have experienced it here, as there was little in the ways of comparison, at least until the Japanese and Taiwanese products started showing up.
I was watching an interesting documentary last night on how they’ve discovered machines that were made in China a long time ago. Total engineering marvels. 1000+ years before they were re-invented in the west. One was a calculating machine for time, another a seismograph. Not all Americans are creative class engineering wonders. Our countries focus is on sports and entertainers anyways.
Yes - China was indeed the center of the technology universe about 1000 years ago; e.g. inventing the compass, gunpowder, and other things. I’ve often wondered what went wrong - it’d be interesting to study it.
They and the Mayans, early Romans.
For the Chinese, it was the Mandarins who were “scholar-civil servants”. They enforced the status to the point of complete stagnation. And thus lost their technology and world exploration lead.
For the Japanese, it was an American named William Edwards Deming. He was major leader in WW2 overseeing logistics and other important war support projects. He invented Total Quality Control. He approached the Big 3 and they told him to get lost. So he went to Toyota. Sony then picked up on the idea. In Japan, he is a national hero. And if you know how xenophobic the Japanese are, you would know just how impressive this is.
For the US, we kept putting middleman after middle man into the processes and nickle and dimed ourselves to death. And we’re still doing it.
We’ve become like the Madarin.
For the Japanese, it was an American named William Edwards Deming. He was major leader in WW2 overseeing logistics and other important war support projects. He invented Total Quality Control. He approached the Big 3 and they told him to get lost. So he went to Toyota. Sony then picked up on the idea. In Japan, he is a national hero. And if you know how xenophobic the Japanese are, you would know just how impressive this is.
I actually wasn’t referring to the Japanese after WWII, but rather before and during.
(After WWII was impressive as well, though as you say largely as the result of Deming)
When I was a pup going to college in an industrial state (Michigan), I noticed that my classmates showed little interest in jobs offered by manufacturers. Even the auto industry.
Back in that era, the late 1970s, the cool jobs were in computing. So, that’s where the talent went.
What killed American manufacturing was outsourcing to countries that have labor that is willing to work for a bowl of rice and a shack with a dirt floor. American manufacturing will only return when our workers will work for the same.
Our minimum wage laws are ensuring that’ll never happen.
If measton is right, then the minimum wage laws will ensure that people won’t work.
Yep. Except it’s only the people subject to those laws that won’t work (i.e. U.S. citizens). Others not subject to those laws don’t have that problem.
So, who wants to go pick some strawberries?
Sure, I’ll pick strawberries if I get an $800K house in the deal!!!
Oh wait, on second thought, that still sounds like harder work than what I do now.
And I don’t really want the $800K cr*p-shack anyway.
Only if mgnt goes first in terms of wage/bonus reduction.
Which imho. it aint gonna happen. The Pandoras box lid has been lifted. American B school schnooks won’t ever give up what they
are “entitled” to.
Blaming CEOs and the unions instead of one or the other……how….even handed of you. Unacceptable!
Professionals Are Buying The Stock Market Rally. Are You?
Posted Aug 21, 2009 08:00am EDT by Peter Gorenstein in Investing, Recession
After starting the week with a big knock, the stock market has resumed its rallying ways, with the Dow closing above 9300 on Thursday while the S&P again surpassed the 1000 level.
Professional money managers are buying into the rally in a big way, according to a Merrill Lynch Survey of Fund Managers :
* 75% believe the world economy will improve in the next 12 months. That’s the highest level in nearly six years and up from 63% in July.
* Average cash balances have fallen to 3.5%, the lowest since July 2007.
* 34% of managers surveyed are now overweight stocks, the highest since Oct. 2007.
* Risk appetite is also increasing, to the highest levels in two years.
The contrarian in you probably thinks that signals a market top.
But Barry Ritholtz, CEO of FusionIQ and author of Bailout Nation, isn’t ready to call an end to the move. “We’ve worked off lots of that oversold condition,” he admits, but that doesn’t mean the rally can’t continue for some time.
Ritholtz, who told Tech Ticker in early March we were in for a monster rally, has 1050-1080 as an upside target for the S&P 500, with a slight chance it can go as high as 1200. If the rally does extend to those outer limits, Ritholtz sees the Dow topping out “somewhere around 12,000.”
Regardless of your position, long or short, Ritholtz’s key message is to remain cautious. “This is a trading rally not a multi-year rally,” he says. Eventually something’s got to give: “We’ve never had six-month period before where we’ve lost two million jobs and the market’s gained 50%,” he says. “That’s simply unprecedented.”
I do not see what the fuss is all about.I think the pros are getting more of the avg joes money.Look what panic the little pull back caused earleir in the week.People are chasing returns right now.That is not a good way to invest.
“* 75% believe the world economy will improve in the next 12 months. That’s the highest level in nearly six years and up from 63% in July.
* Average cash balances have fallen to 3.5%, the lowest since July 2007.
* 34% of managers surveyed are now overweight stocks, the highest since Oct. 2007.
* Risk appetite is also increasing, to the highest levels in two years. ”
Uh-huh. This is a recipe for the cataclysmic destruction of wealth, to be sure.
This has been the most absurd, manipulated. contrived market top since GM was trading at $40 per share a couple of years ago.
I have only one piece of unsolicited market advice for the HBB’ers out there - don’t buy into this ramp job, floated top. I’m not. I’m happy mine is the minority opinion and the so-called experts have 3.5% cash. Real happy about that.
The stock market always go up. What else is there to say?
Should I buy in now before I’m priced out forever?
“We’ve never had six-month period before where we’ve lost two million jobs and the market’s gained 50%,” he says. “That’s simply unprecedented.”
-nobody finds this to be a little fishy?
I’m debating selling all the gold stock (FSAGX) I have in a small 401a from a prior employer and moving it to cash today. It has been way too correlated with the DOW for my tastes and I took a major beating last year. It’s pretty much back to what I’m in for. Gold stock isn’t gold. If this market doesn’t have a period of fast declines at some point in the near future, I’d eat my shorts.
Gee, I’m with you, cause I would hate for you to eat your shorts.
Aug. 20 (Bloomberg) — U.S. pension funds contributed to the record $1.2 trillion that private-equity firms raised this decade. Three of the biggest investors, state pensions in California, Oregon and Washington, plunked down at least $53.8 billion. So far, they only have dwindling paper profits and a lot less cash to show the millions of policemen, teachers and other civil servants in their retirement plans.
You mean these experts are buying into the market with other peoples money.
I heard on PBS’s Nightly Business Report that there was a large amount of insider selling going on.
FYI. Something to look into. The smart money, the insiders, abandon ship long before the shoeshine boys do.
I’ve said this for a while, the stock market seems like a great way to move money from outsiders to insiders.
“Were it not for the unprecedented flood of government aid in 2008, private bankers would have been swept away just as they were in the 1930s. But, instead, they were rescued with public funds which allowed them to quickly return to their avocation of profiting from the indebting of others.”
~ Darryl Robert Schoon
“In the end, everyone gets what they deserve.” ~me
“It’s a long way around the track, but we’re all trying to get across the same finish line.” - anonymous
THE MYTHICAL FDIC FUND
By William M. Isaac
William Isaac, former Chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, (FDIC)
…”When I became Chairman of the FDIC in 1981,” wrote William Isaac a year ago, “the FDIC’s financial statement showed a balance at the U.S. Treasury of some $11 billion. I decided it would be a real treat to see all of that money, so I placed a call to Treasury Secretary Don Regan:
Isaac: Don, I’d like to come over to look at the money.
Regan: What money?
Isaac: You know . . . the $11 billion the FDIC has in the vault at Treasury.
Regan: Uh, well you see Bill, ah, that’s a bit of a problem.
Isaac: I know you’re busy. I don’t need to do it right away.
Regan: Well . . . it’s not a question of timing . . . I don’t know quite how to put this, but we don’t have the money.
Isaac: Right . . . ha ha.
Regan: No, really. The banks have been paying money to the FDIC, the FDIC has been turning the money over to the Treasury, and the Treasury has been spending it on missiles, school lunches, water projects, and the like. The money’s gone.
Isaac: But it says right here on this financial statement that we have over $11 billion at the Treasury.
Regan: In a sense, you do. You see, we owe that money to the FDIC, and we pay interest on it.
Isaac: I know this might sound pretty far-fetched, but what would happen if we should need a few billion to handle a bank failure?
Regan: That’s easy - we’d go right out and borrow it. You’d have the money in no time . . . same day service most days.
Isaac: Let me see if I’ve got this straight. The money the banks thought they were storing up for the past half century - sort of saving it for a rainy day - is gone.
If a storm begins brewing and we need the money, Treasury will have to borrow it. Is that about it?
Regan: Yep.”
Sound far-fetched? Not at all. Just a few weeks ago the present head of the FDIC mentioned that the “insurance fund” was being sorely taxed because of all the bank failures in the last several months. Sheila Bair said that if the fund runs dry she’ll just go over to the Treasury Department and get whatever is needed.
hmmm….
maybe the way to play this is to buy stock in the company that supplies ink to the Treasury…
I read some where two or three years ago that a 50gal. drum of ink that they use cost around $55,000.00
Posted just yesterday:
Comment by packman
2009-08-20 07:48:31
As of May they’ve got a $500 Billion line of credit from the treasury (cough cough) through 2010.
A big circle jerk:
Banks create money ->
Banks/people use that money to “invest” in stuff like houses ->
“Gains” from these investments are used to buy other investments, e.g. treasuries ->
Treasuries are used to fund bank failures (through the FDIC, TARP, etc.), when they find that they created too much money. ->
Bailed out banks create more money ->
etc.
ITEM: “The FDIC reveals that millions of Americans don’t trust or don’t use banks. These Americans have been called the unbanked or underbanked, meaning that they ‘do not have access to banks or are not fully participating in the mainstream financial system,’ says the FDIC. The FDIC guesstimates that 10 percent of American families are ‘unbanked.’ That’s a lot of capital the banks don’t have access to. Those who hold currency outside of banks are anathema to the gods of banking.”
The above comes from an article by Bill Sardi, who usually writes about health matters. In this piece Sardi is concerned about “pocket book health” and lays out his concerns bluntly:
“If just a small portion of American bank depositors hear that the FDIC had to tap into the US Treasury for funds, and these depositors feel their banked money is at risk and want to withdraw some of it, the mother of all bank runs could ensue. This could create the day of reckoning that many have predicted. A short banking holiday would have to be declared and who knows what happens from there – troops in the streets, issuance of new currency, martial law? Don’t think those in the Federal government haven’t made plans for such an occurrence.” Aug. 25 - Day of Reckoning?
We’re not recommending that people remove large amounts of cash from their bank accounts. Banks only have a fraction of the cash needed to settle mass withdrawals and the ensuing panic would be ruinous.
BUT - the FDIC insurance fund is running very low and the agency will likely be tapping into the U.S. Treasury directly for funds to pay off depositors of failed banks. Hence the focus on the August 25th report from that agency.
A friend of ours (now deceased) once remarked that he kept $5,000.00 in cash in a shoebox “just in case.” We pointed out that he was losing the interest the money could have earned in a bank. He replied that he merely considered that the premium he was paying for the peace of mind of having some cash on hand in case “the banks closed for two or three days.” He was old enough to remember the bank closings of 1933.
“The FDIC guesstimates that 10 percent of American families are ‘unbanked.’ That’s a lot of capital the banks don’t have access to.”
They say that like it’s a bad thing.
I know a family that is currently “unbanked.” They have no capital. Money goes out as soon as it comes in to pay for food and gas and doctors and what he needs to run his business. Now, am I having some issues helping them with their taxes because of the records issues? Yes. But they could have kept better records without a bank.
I hope that once I finish helping them, they will have enough money to open an account at a credit union, but the idea that there is all sorts of capital out there that isn’t in a bank requires a little more support than just an assertion that there are a lot people without banks.
When I first moved to NYC you needed to keep a minimum balance of $3000 in any of the banks with branches in Morningside Heights to get free checking and the non-free checking was very expensive.
My rationale with keeping a small amount of cash on-hand following Katrina (part of the reason so many people were initially trapped is the ATM machines can’t function without power) was on the same story.
Yes, I’m losing interest and return on that investment, but I think of it like insurance. Insurance isn’t free, and the peace of mind afford by having an escape plan I hope to never use is worth the few dollars I’d make in interest off the cash each year. Oh yeah, and the fact that there is not a single bank making money off that money gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling too.
“My rationale with keeping a small amount of cash on-hand following Katrina”
Same for me, when Hugo hit us in ‘89 we had no power for several weeks. Cash is the only thing that works, next to barter. May not happen very often. No matter, we always have some cash stashed away! I also do cash deals when ever possible, off book income is sweet.
With the pitiful interest rates being paid on deposits right now it does become tempting to increase the cash fund, even if only to increase the level of ’screw you stupid banks’ type satisfaction.
I know a lady who worked for a Mississippi bank that got hit by Katrina. However, she saw that place get back up and running quickly. And their computing systems didn’t lose a single byte of data.
That would be the Merchants and Marine Bank.
These non-banking people still use banks, they just don’t have accounts. They cash their paychecks at the bank on the check and pay a hefty fee to do so. Some banks even require a thumbprint for a non-customer to cash a check. I wouldn’t be surprised to see check-cashing stores banned–not for gouging, but because banks want to do the gouging themselves.
…but because banks want to do the gouging themselves…
Would be funny if not true.
My understanding (3rd hand info) is that major banks
*do* have interest in major check cashing chains.
I am quite sure Wells Fargo has an interest into the “Checks
Into Cash” franchise.
Perhaps a fellow blogger has additional/more accurate info.
The major bank interest in check cashing / payday lending operations was mentioned in the book, “Credit Card Nation.” I don’t remember the details as it’s been a while since I read it.
The FDIC will always be backstopped by the Fed. ALWAYS.
Americans never need to fear a shortage of cash or their cash disappearing. They only need to fear the inevitable inflation train wreck that these idiots are creating.
Combotechies ‘cash is king’ rhetoric will only hold up for so long.
I am guessing Combo knows that and has a new blog handle in mind for whatever future point in time inflation turns out to be “higher than expected.”
is hardassetswithlowfixedratelongtermselfamortizingdebt too long to be a handle here?
Quick ? For you…
If the fed is going to backstop the FDIC, who is going to backstop the fed?
As I understand it, they would have to borrow the money to give it to the fed, and those who loan the money are generally the IB’s or foreign governments.
If IB’s are not in the best of shapes, and foreign governments are getting cold feet due to Uncle Sams debt binge, and fail to buy said loans, the interest rate would necessarily go way up.
Now, here is where it gets really interesting, as when rates go up, there is less money spent on capital improvements, and more in debt payment.
That is assuming that we are ever going to pay that debt. I doubt it.
More than likely we will see another banking collapse, and another banking Hollyday. Hope that you have cash on hand then, because I very much doubt that credit/debit cards would work.
“The FDIC will always be backstopped by the Fed. ALWAYS.
Americans never need to fear a shortage of cash or their cash disappearing. They only need to fear the inevitable inflation train wreck that these idiots are creating.
Combotechies ‘cash is king’ rhetoric will only hold up for so long.”
I put $50,000 in a bank account because I do not want to spend it. There’s a run on the bank and the $50K is gone. The FDIC goes to the Treasury and get’s $50K and puts it back in my account. I still don’t spend it. How is that inflationary?
You left out a big step:
“I put $50,000 in a bank account because I do not want to spend it. The bank loans out $45k of that $50k to some schmuck who can’t pay it back; word gets out that the bank is making risky loans to schmucks. There’s a run on the bank and the $50K is gone. The FDIC goes to the Treasury and get’s $50K and puts it back in my account. I still don’t spend it. How is that inflationary?”
There’s now $45k extra in the system - that’s how.
Wait a second.
If I had spent $45K of the 50, would that have been inflationary? If not, then why is it that someone else spending it is? It only becomes an “extra” $45K in the system when and if I spend the $50K. As a matter of fact, if I don’t spend the $50K anytime soon, the system has “lost” $5k because I’ve locked up my money.
Inflation is a function of people speculating that prices will go up in the near term so they buy now. Not the quantity of cash in the system.
You’re ignoring the possibility of you *both* spending the $45k, which is what happens in my addition to your scenario. In that case $95k total gets put into the system.
Yes if you save $50k and *never* spend it - that’s deflationary. But how many people save big chunks of money and *never* spend it (including their descendants never spending it after they die)?
It all comes down to the comparison of these two questions:
A. How many people save money and never spend it? (deflationary)
B. How many people borrow money and never pay it back? (inflationary)
B is way bigger than A, especially in a bubble-driven economy like we have.
I’d say B ‘was’ bigger than A, hence the bubble economy. Over the next decade, my guess is A will be bigger than B, as unemployment continues to move upward and wages continue to be suppressed. A multi-generational, self-reinforcing depression.
I’d say B ‘was’ bigger than A, hence the bubble economy. Over the next decade, my guess is A will be bigger than B, as unemployment continues to move upward and wages continue to be suppressed. A multi-generational, self-reinforcing depression.
From a personal-spending standpoint, yes the “borrow money” part of B will probably decrease for a few years.* The “never pay it back” part though is going through the roof, and won’t be coming down any time soon.
However you can’t overlook the government side, where the “borrow money” part is ramping up big time. (The “never pay it back” part remains to be seen). A is simply out of the question for the government of course.
(Though the government side isn’t tied to FDIC; I mention it just in general in the inflation discussion. It becomes increasing important as the government’s share of the general economy grows.)
* In actuality in the short run the act of borrowing money is what’s inflationary, not the “never pay it back” part - so FWIW this is why I’m not strictly an “inflationista”, but rather propose that we’re in an “Inflation->Deflation->Inflation” scenario, where the first Inflation was the 1997-2006 part of the bubble, and we’re currently in the middle Deflation period.
From a personal-spending standpoint, yes the “borrow money” part of B will probably decrease for a few years.* The “never pay it back” part though is going through the roof, and won’t be coming down any time soon.
Yup, the payment makers are going on strike.
“propose that we’re in an “Inflation->Deflation->Inflation” scenario, where the first Inflation was the 1997-2006 part of the bubble, and we’re currently in the middle Deflation period.”
Let’s hope it’s not inflation -> deflation -> currency collapse (due to a complete loss in faith).
The “payment makers” are losing their jobs or not getting raises that keep up with real inflation.
I didn’t bank for years. Banks are scum sucking thieves and liars that think your money is in fact their money and who will do anything and everything to jimmy and jack your account for late fees and processing fees and fees for the fees. But you wouldn’t know this if you’ve never been poor.
I now use a credit union. I will NEVER put my money in a bank. I used to have an account with an S&L, even after the mess of the early 90s. I figured they had become so regulated that the same thing wasn’t going to happen again. And then they started getting bought up and consolidated. I withdrew.
I like credit unions because banks hate them and have been successfully lobbying to have more regulation and oversight put upon credit unions than they themselves have. To me, this is great! It means no funny games are being played with my money. Mostly.
Bottom line is that the poor can’t AFFORD to use a bank.
Another 8 Issuers Default In Week; Yr-To-Date At 205 -S&P
Dow Jones News
Another eight corporate debt issuers defaulted this week, bringing the year-to-date total to 205, nearly quadruple the number a year earlier, according to Standard & Poor’s.
Defaults have continued to mount amid tight credit and the recession, which have made borrowing and refinancing difficult, especially for junk-rated companies. This year’s defaults surpassed 2008’s total during May.
This week, six of the defaults were in the U.S. and two were in Europe. The defaults bring U.S. defaults to a total of 146 and 13 in Europe. The rest of the count stands at 33 in emerging markets and 13 in the other developed region that includes Australia, Canada, Japan and New Zealand.
Three were attributed to missed interest payments, now the top reason for default this year at 70 issuers. Those were direct-marketing company Affinity Group Holding Inc., Little Traverse Bay Band of Odawa Indians and RDA Holding Inc.
Three defaults were attributed to distressed-debt exchanges. Most credit agencies consider distressed exchanges a default, though many companies don’t. Distressed exchanges have soared and are the second top reason for defaults this year, with the current tally of 66 issuers, more than four times that for all of 2008.
The companies include European sport-equipment manufacturer Head NV, commercial lender CIT Group Inc. (CIT)and home builder Beazer Homes USA Inc. (BZH).
One issuer, Colonial BancGroup Inc. (CBCG), was placed into receivership and the other, German luxury fashion designer Escada AG filed for bankruptcy. Bankruptcy filings also have soared, at 53 this year, surpassing last year’s total of 49.
Just wait until the municipalities start defaulting. That’ll hit the news.
Reading the local press, it seems that revenues are on a crash dive and busting budgets faster than they can be passed or amended.
Aside from declines due to slowing business activity, it seems that pressured consumers are going the extra mile and avoiding them altogether.
They say the economy might actually be growing again - perhaps they mean the underground economy?
“Unbanked” I guess that would mean they use check cashing stores and all of that. Sounds like a growth business. As people learn to distrust banks and FDIC then they might gravitate to a responsible check cashing store.
“…they might gravitate to a responsible check cashing store.”
Is there such a thing?
I think most of them sting the customer fairly hard, not sure what rates they charge.
I do know a fellow who has a pawn shop that cashes checks. He charges $5.00 per $100.00 up to $500.00. Says he takes in an extra $5000.00 or so dollars per year.
It is called a local small merchant that knows you and and where you get your checks from and therefore is willing to let you endorse checks over for a fee lower than the check cashing stores because they have better knowledge of how likely you are to have received a rubber check. Especially if you buy stuff from them as well as taking the cash back.
I’d forgot about small businesses doing that. Used to see it in the small town where I grew up.
I remember that as well polly. That’s pretty much gone where I live.
Check cashing places are no better than banks except you don’t need an account and in fact are just fronts for payday loans. But if you don’t have great credit and a fabulous work history, most banks won’t let you open an account anyway, so you have to use the check cashing store.
My experience is that the fees more or less equal a basic checking account fees. And you NEVER overdraft.
(please note the “most” and “more or less” in the above. I am aware there are exceptions, but they are just that, exceptions)
I’ve seen a lot of WalMart commercials lately advertising their low cost check cashing services. Seems to me there must be good bucks to be made off poor people. Cheap booze, cigs, lottery tickets, check cashing, buy here, pay here used cars, etc.
IIRC, Wal-mart charges $3 for check cashing, but it is limited to payroll or gov’t checks.
Walmart tried to get into offering banking services a few years ago, didn’t they?
Yes but I think they were prevented. At our local Wal*Mart stores there is some odd bank in all of them though. I seem to recall looking it up, and it’s not WalMart themselves.
NYT - The Fall of the Super-Rich
By DAVID LEONHARDT and GERALDINE FABRIKANT
Published: August 20, 2009
The rich have been getting richer for so long that the trend has come to seem almost permanent.
They began to pull away from everyone else in the 1970s. By 2006, income was more concentrated at the top than it had been since the late 1920s. The recent news about resurgent Wall Street pay has seemed to suggest that not even the Great Recession could reverse the rise in income inequality.
But economists say — and data is beginning to show — that a significant change may in fact be under way. The rich, as a group, are no longer getting richer. Over the last two years, they have become poorer. And many may not return to their old levels of wealth and income anytime soon.
For every investment banker whose pay has recovered to its prerecession levels, there are several who have lost their jobs — as well as many wealthy investors who have lost millions. As a result, economists and other analysts say, a 30-year period in which the super-rich became both wealthier and more numerous may now be ending.
The relative struggles of the rich may elicit little sympathy from less well-off families who are dealing with the effects of the worst recession in a generation. But the change does raise several broader economic questions. Among them is whether harder times for the rich will ultimately benefit the middle class and the poor, given that the huge recent increase in top incomes coincided with slow income growth for almost every other group. In blunter terms, the question is whether the better metaphor for the economy is a rising tide that can lift all boats — or a zero-sum game.
There won’t be sympathy until they’re *forced* to work 40+hours/week.
I wonder if “re-education” is possible for the wizards of finance? As in residing at the worker’s collective in the open air. Learning to “serve the people and be humble”?
Getting their hands dirty and working up a sweat? Or as Woody Allen once said, having a future in a documentary film, underscored by cello in a minor key?
Nah, they’d probably find a way to bribe somebody and escape.
I wonder if “re-education” is possible for the wizards of finance?
Well, let’s be positive thinkers and assume it IS possible. But pooey on your ’serving the people’ and ‘getting your hands dirty’.
Me and this here handy birch cane favor a more ‘robust’ approach to re-education.
*grumble *
A few years back I recommended a book to the HBB about the Boldt Castle in the 1000 Island Region. It was built during the 20s. Marketers of the property insinuate the place was built by Boldt as a symbol of love for his wife. Author Paul Malo, a former SU professor and architectural historian searches for the real story. The result is a fantasic study of the rise of the super rich and the resulting fall, and it does surround the real estate in that region which was a playground for 1920’s industrialist movers and shakers. There was even a railroad that went direct from NYC to the 1000 Islands so many spent their summers there.
http://www.amazon.com/Boldt-Castle-Search-Lost-Story/dp/0966972902
The Singer family is also mentioned as they apparently were putting the Boldts to shame w/more impressive boating assets and measurably greater wealth.
Today the NYS PR machine tells visitors to the site that construction stopped on the castle because of Luisa’s death. Paul Malo’s research suggests she may have died due to the neglect of being a wealthy workaholics wife and that work stopped because they were running out of money due to market issues. Also of note is the fact that, wealthy area families in the end, turned their behemouth family properties over to the state to avoid the horrendous taxes they were paying on them.
McAfee built a house with a view of Pike’s Peak for $25,000,000 and sold it for $5,700,000. Ouch.
He was looking at the wrong peak.
rofl
http://activerain.com/blogsview/756368/-anti-virus-mogul-mcafee-woodland-park-co-estate-up-for-auction-again
A little bit more about the house and its history.
Sounds like McAfee wasn’t the one that took the huge hit? Or was he? A friend swears he was at a party with a bunch of Virus authors (My friend was in the virus scene and screwed up one of the early MS-DOS virus groups). Different times back then.
McAfee built it for 25M and then sold it at auction to Wu for 5.72M. Huge hit. Then Wu sold it at auction again for somewhere around 3.5M. Another huge hit, IMHO. But, then again, I don’t have 6M to drop on a house.
So let me understand this - the rich guy who was making $1 million a year in salary and investments, loses his job, his investment income is down 40%, and the middle class worker is supposed to benefit….how?
Looks to me like just more competition for the middle income jobs.
I’m sure one of our resident economists can explain how poorer rich people is a good thing for all of us.
Also, the author has a third scenario for his conclusion, a falling tide beaches all boats.
over-concentration of wealth distorts the democratic process and leads to corrupt cronyism and oligarchism, as we are witnessing
What are you, some kinda dang socialeest/commie!
All kidding aside, you are exactly right.
“Society is like a stew. If you don’t stir it up every once in a while then a layer of scum floats to the top.” Edward Abbey, naturalist
“Society is like a stew. If you don’t stir it up every once in a while then a layer of sc.u.m floats to the top.” - Edward Abbey, naturalist
If you don’t stir it up every once in a while then a layer of sc.u.m floats to the top.
And the bottom gets burned.
Yep the system will only support so many elite and as the numbers shrink those who pull the strings will have even more power to influence the quasi elites.
A good example is Paulson and BB threatening BAC CEO. This guy knows that if he looses this job his standard of living is going to take a real hit. Thus he does their bidding. Those in power are picking the winners and loosers thus cementing their control on power.
This home was going for in the $500k range earlier this summer. The owner had always taken beautiful care of the place. Then all of a sudden things started to go downhill. We learned the owner had committed suicide. The bank just let the place run down.
http://cnyhomes.com/Listing/Search/info.cgi?mlnum=215822
Now it’s on the market for $212k but w/rehab necessary. I know in the bubble zone this has been going on but we don’t have that many foreclosures here. Yet the banks still throw away all the value from mere months of neglect.
Wish you could set up shop out here Ben.
but but but….. all the *rich* people from NYC/NJ/CT want to live in Manlius so prices never go down…errrr…. they only go down just a smidgen…..right? RIGHT????
Carrie, Are you hearing anymore garbage from RE pukes like the above?
Total tax $12,829. Wow, NYS is taxing itself out of existence. That’s 6% of the asking price.
well, those were the last taxes paid. I’m not sure how they appraise for a rehab. Maybe Ben has some ideas.
Here’s a home just down the street (albeit in good shape) and you’ll see the value is in the $500s and taxes are just under $12k. This home was just built a few years ago and I believe the guy that built it still lives there because it never sold. I could be confused w/another property though. It is puzzling why the new construction has a lower tax bill than the far older property. That’s not normal.
http://cnyhomes.com/Listing/Search/info.cgi?mlnum=213131
In the village of these towns (Fayetteville-Manlius) you can live in a 1960s split level of dubious maintenance history and be shelling out in the $8000-$9000. Right now they’re selling for between $165k and $200k. It’s crazy and yet people just pay it. It’s mostly school taxes and about $1200 in village taxes. Some counties are worse than others. Nearby Madison has much lower school taxes.
“The bank just let the place run down.”
There ought to be a law against this. It does not seem like rocket science. For instance:
1) Local governments could simply charge banks holding on to unsold, vacant property a steep fee for maintaining the property and paying for any other increase in costs imposed on the surrounding community, such as the need for increased police services to kick out vagrants, keep out meth producers, etc.
2) If banks either fail to pay the fee or avoid paying the fee by failing to take possession of vacant homes, the local government could take possession of the homes and sell them at auction within some time window.
This approach could become a tremendous revenue source for local governments, if they would simply act. When the private banking sector fails to fulfill its traditional role in moving vacant housing back to the market, it becomes the government’s duty to do so.
P.S. This approach could also potentially open great opportunities for entrepreneurs like Ben Jones to create real wealth for the US economy at a grass roots level.
1. Local governments generally do not have the jurisdiction to charge banks for not keeping up properties. The only ability they have is to put a lien against the property and collect when the house is sold. Problem is that those fines can grow to a point that no one will buy the run-down property because the costs of the lien out-way any equity in the house. This is happening all over Florida right now and local city councils are waving the liens to get someone to move into the property.
2. In Florida, local governments can only take over a property if the owner fails to pay taxes for 3 years (IIRC). Banks will usually skip paying taxes on the properties until the last minute.
Bankers, realtors, home builders are usually the chief funders of local government politicians campaigns. They pay for it, so they get to decide.
There is really no cause for concern about the 20 pct drop in Chinese stock prices over the past two weeks, as the rest of the world economy has decoupled from China, right?
* WALL STREET JOURNAL
* AUGUST 21, 2009, 12:38 A.M. ET
UPDATE: Asian Shares Fall; Concerns On China Bank Lending
By Colin Ng and Philip Vahn
Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES
SINGAPORE (Dow Jones)–Asian stock markets were turning lower Friday amid concerns China might be moving to tighten bank lending, with jitters also creeping into foreign exchange trade.
Australia’s S&P/ASX 200 was down 2.5% with Japan’s Nikkei 225 down 2.1% and South Korea’s Kospi Composite off 0.4%. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng Index was down 1.3%, with Taiwan shares off 0.1%.
The Shanghai Composite Index was 0.7% higher by the market interval there, though off its morning highs.
Traders cited a report by Bloomberg which quoted people familiar with the matter as saying China planned to tighten capital requirements for banks. It said the China Banking Regulatory Commission had sent a draft of rule changes to banks on Aug. 19, requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital.
There’s little in the way of concrete data, but many China-watchers believe a large amount of bank lending has found its way into the stock market in recent months.
Concerns that China might slow this lending flood, at a time doubts are starting to come in about the strength of the economic recovery, were felt also in currency trade, with the U.S. dollar falling against the Japanese yen to its lowest level in more than a month.
The yield on the U.S. 10-year Treasury note fell to 3.38% in Tokyo, from 3.43% earlier, another indication of risk aversion. U.S. stock futures were down in screen trade, with Dow Jones Industrial Average futures falling 58 points.
Investors were likely to take their cue from where Shanghai shares headed in the afternoon session, given offshore market players tend to view that bourse as a bellwether for sentiment on the Chinese economy.
“In the last two weeks the index has lost more than 20% of its value - and needless to say investors are wondering if this is once again a harbinger of a sharp turn in China’s real economic fortunes,” said UBS economist Jonathan Anderson.
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Chinese stock market bubble, I would like you to meet Mr Pin.
China Said to Plan Rules Tightening Capital of Banks (Update2)
By Bloomberg News
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) — China plans to tighten capital requirements for banks, threatening to curb the record lending that’s fueled a 60 percent rally in the nation’s stock market, three people familiar with the matter said.
The China Banking Regulatory Commission sent draft rule changes to banks on Aug. 19 requiring them to deduct all existing holdings of subordinated and hybrid debt sold by other lenders from supplementary capital, said the people, who have seen the document. Banks have until Aug. 25 to give feedback, said the people, declining to be named as the matter is private.
As a result, banks may need to rein in lending or sell shares to lift capital adequacy ratios to the 12 percent minimum. Chinese stocks briefly entered a so-called bear market this week on concern the government would stymie new loans that exceeded $1 trillion in the first half. A news department official at the regulator declined to comment by phone and didn’t immediately respond to a faxed inquiry.
“This move will cut one of the most important funding sources for banks,” said Sheng Nan, an analyst at UOB Kayhian Investment Co. in Shanghai. Banks will “have to either raise more equity capital or slow down lending and other capital consuming businesses to stay afloat.”
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Lenderoflastresort posted this link late last night. It’s a blog about living in Iceland and also connects with an English translation of Icelandic news and commentary. It’s a fascinating look at the hardships they’re facing. The blogger’s unemployed and growing a garden for food. Sounds bleak over there. Good thing we’re in full recovery here in the US!
http://www.newsfritter.com/alive/
MarketWatch First Take
Aug 20, 2009, 5:26 p.m. EST
Recession ending? Who cares?
Commentary: Some milestones aren’t worth celebrating
By MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Suddenly, everyone’s announcing the end of the great recession of 2008-2009. But nobody’s telling us why we should care.
Earlier in the week, the International Monetary Fund’s top economist said the global recession was ending. See full story.
On Thursday, the Conference Board said the index of leading economic indicators rose for the fourth month in a row. Combined with the first non-negative reading on the coincident indicators, the rise in the LEI was enough for the research group’s economist to say that the “recession is bottoming out.”
All across America, spontaneous festivities broke out to celebrate the news. It was like VE Day, Mardi Gras and Super Bowl Sunday all wrapped into one. Well … actually, no, that didn’t happen. No one celebrated because no one believes it.
It’s not that the economists are wrong; chances are, they are right. It’s just that economists and the rest of us speak different languages.
To an economist, a “recovery” is a process that simply means that the economy is finally growing again: more output, more sales, maybe even more jobs.
But, to the rest of us, “recovery” is a destination that means we’re back where we’re supposed to be. And with unemployment heading toward 10%, we all (especially the economists) know we’re not there yet.
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I would add that to most people, “recovery” would imply a bottoming of the housing market. I know this time is different, but in the early 1990s, the “recovery” was dated by the National Bureau of Economic Research as occurring in March 1991, but the California housing market saw price declines for an additional five years, into 1996.
When are they going to start capitalizing “Great Recession.” It seems to have gained some recognition as a phrase….
Great news! Now the Fed can stop it’s policies of creating artificially low interest rates…..right?
To an economist, a “recovery” is a process that simply means that the economy is finally growing again: more output (on a nominal basis), more sales (on a nominal basis), maybe even more jobs (gov jobs).
To the rest of us recovery is job and financial security. That’s no where in sight.
Ah from the “Great Recession” to the “Great Jobless Recovery”. People living through it will hardly be able to tell the difference.
…again.
Forbes dot com
Adviser Soapbox
Let’s Hope China Forecloses On U.S.
Thomas C. Scott, 08.18.09, 04:17 PM EDT
A recovery in U.S. markets may depend on how China converts its huge inventory of U.S. Treasuries into equity.
Public officials and media commentators have used the term “green shoots” in recent months to suggest that small signs of improvement may signal our economic firestorm has finally burned itself out. Like a scorched forest floor, renewal is poking through the ashes. This sort of talk appeals to investment advisors and clients hungry for hope, and it worries them that they’ll miss out on the chance to buy stocks or real estate on the cheap, profiting from the expected rebound.
A rebound is a dangerously shaky assumption if you look beyond those green shoots and see that our nation may be in the throes of a rolling bankruptcy with no one left to bail us out. Investors distracted by talk of recovery may find that instead of the giant beanstalk of fairytale fame that allowed Jack to climb into the clouds and steal the giant’s gold, they’ll have ended up grasping at straws.
We’re in a fix, and the world is not going to save us the way the Japanese could in the late 1980s when they poured billions of accumulated dollars into overpriced U.S. assets, nor the way China has since the end of the 1990s technology boom by parking the lion’s share of its ballooning trade surplus in U.S. Treasuries.
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In fact, China has announced “foreclosure proceedings” against the dollar. No one calls it that, but it’s the implied message the Chinese and other major trading partners sent when they recently suggested replacing the dollar as the global standard for transactions. China would like to get rid of those U.S. Treasuries, but it can’t just dump more than a trillion dollars of assets without hurting itself greatly in the process. That’s about the only good news: China has to keep riding the tiger to avoid being eaten by it.
The bad news is that the Federal Reserve faces a high-wire balancing act without a net as it tries to manage long-term interest rates to keep the economy from becoming too hot or too cold. Failure to hit the mark may mean either a deepening recession or runaway inflation, and the window of opportunity is getting smaller all the time.
The global market for U.S. Treasuries is cooling, and yields may have to rise to attract buyers. That, in turn, could actually have an inflationary effect despite the good chance that it would be a drag on growth as the government prints more money to pay rising interest costs. Meanwhile, more than $2 trillion in the various stimulus and bailout proposals may force the government to raise more money by trying to sell even more bonds in a market that is already saying, “Enough!”
As things stand, the outlook for the dollar couldn’t be worse, and that should give investors pause before jumping into the stock market thinking the storm has passed. Since the beginning of this year, yields on both 10- and 30-year Treasuries have been rising, threatening to choke off a full-scale recovery. The Fed could buy Treasury bonds to counteract rising rates, but the money to buy those bonds would have to come from the government’s printing press.
If the Fed’s balancing act is successful and the high wire doesn’t jiggle too much, we could see a short-term economic recovery. But it’s hard to imagine a robust recovery when the American Banking Association says credit card default rates are at a record high, consumers who have money aren’t spending it, and the wealth of the nation has been gutted by the collapse of real estate prices.
If the Fed slips and falls, we may be in for either a continuing deflationary spiral, as happened during the Great Depression, or the opposite curse, hyper-inflation, which we had during the 1970s. Those who stand to lose the most from inflation are savers (as opposed to long-term investors), and salaried workers. Savers get hit because their bank CDs and other safe investments will be paying fixed interest that may be much less than the rate at which the cost of living is going up. Wage-earners get hit because employers won’t be able to raise salaries as fast as prices.
The only silver lining in this dismal scenario is that, like a bank foreclosing on a homeowner, China is maneuvering to pick up U.S. assets at bargain prices. According to published reports this week from Reuters, China’s $200 billion sovereign wealth fund plans to invest up to $2 billion in “toxic” mortgage-backed securities from U.S. banks.
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China dot org dot cn
China cut holdings of US treasury bonds in June
A report published by the US Treasury Department yesterday shows that China’s June holdings of US Treasury securities were US$776.4 billion, down US$25.1 billion from the previous month, Beijing Business Today reported.
It is the second time that China has reduced its holdings of Treasury securities since the global financial crisis broke out last September. But despite the fact that China cut its holdings by the biggest percentage since a 4.2 percent cut in October 2000, China remains the No.1 holder of the US Treasuries.
China cut its net holdings by 3.1 percent to US$776.4 billion in June from US$801.5 billion in May. It was the first large-scale reduction of US Treasury debt by China so far this year. But its June holdings were still larger than April’s US$763.5 billion and the US$767.9 billion March figure.
“Considering the prospect of long-term depreciation of the US dollar and pessimism on the asset value of investments in US treasury bonds, the Chinese government intentionally trimmed down its holdings to ensure the security of Chinese foreign assets,” said Xu Qiyuan, a researcher with the Global Economy and Politics Research Institute of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences (CASS).
“China is speeding up its strategy of diversifying its foreign investments,” he added.
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The symbiosis is giving way to polygamy:
market pulse
Aug 20, 2009, 7:58 p.m. EST
China becomes Japan’s top trade partner
LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) — China is now Japan’s largest export market, surpassing the U.S. despite a drop in overall trade, according to recent figures from the Japan External Trade Organization. Japan’s exports to China fell 25.3% during the first half of the year to $46.5 billion, the agency said, but due to a steeper drop in shipments to the U.S., China became Japan’s largest trade destination for the first time. According to a report Thursday in China Daily, China is also Japan’s largest source of imports.
Can anyone who understands international politics comment on the implications of the following news item for US sovereignty?
CIC may invest in US mortgages
(China Daily/Agencies)
Updated: 2009-08-18 08:04
China’s $200-billion sovereign wealth fund is set to invest up to $2 billion in US mortgages as it eyes a property market recovery, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said yesterday.
China Investment Corp (CIC) plans to invest soon in US taxpayer subsidized investment funds of toxic mortgage-backed securities, which it sees as a safer bet than buying into the $700-billion Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), also backed by the US Treasury.
Under the Public-Private Investment Plan (PPIP) launched earlier this year, the US government plans to seed a number of public-private investment funds that would combine taxpayer money with private capital to buy as much as $40 billion in toxic securities from banks.
Compared with TARP, the new and smaller PPIP program focuses on safer toxic securities, which must have so-called “Triple-A” ratings by at least two agencies, and are debts guaranteed by the US Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC), sources explained.
“In this case, CIC feels safer to invest and the safer it feels, the more confident it will naturally feel about its investments, as well as in the prospects for the US economy,” said one of the sources.
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‘…safer toxic securities, which must have so-called “Triple-A” ratings by at least two agencies…’
Am I the only one who finds that passage to be not only hilarious, but also surreal?
It’s like some really large scale game of 3 card monty. You’d think a savy player of ‘fudge-the-numbers’ like China should be able to hold their own.
Brain still running on this one.
Maybe they don’t want mortgages that are going to get paid with useless US dollars. Maybe they want to foreclose and hold the land. They can build warehouses on it to store all the commodities they’re buying with useless US dollars.
Sounds a heck of a lot like Japan buying tons of US real estate in the late 1980’s / early 1990’s.
Didn’t work out so well for them.
prof, can you please contact me offline via Ben?
Thnx.
I did
I still say The US and Chinese economic systems are Siamese Twins. If one half dies, so does the other. The big boyz in both countries recognize this, and act accordingly. The rest is just posturing. (I’m not saying the Chinese wouldn’t like to separate, but currently we share too many organs.)
Another blow-out essay by Michael Hudson at globalresearch dot ca. I forget who linked it the other day, but thanks.
And pundits are thinking Arizona real estate prices hit the bottom? LOL
Arizona’s rising unemployment rate proves that recession still has a firm grasp on the state, with economists projecting the jobless number could hit at least 10 percent - and possibly top out as high as 11 percent - before conditions improve.
The number jumped about half a percentage point, to 9.2 percent, in July from June, according to the Arizona Department of Commerce.
more at
http://tinyurl.com/AZ-Jobless
Policy maker’s blanket apology: “If I had not acted as I did, you all would have been much worse off than you are now.”
There is no way I know of to challenge such a claim, as you cannot run history twice to see how things might have turned out differently.
Bernanke: We saved world
Pause to reflect: Kansas City Fed convenes annual symposium Friday in the mountain resort Jackson Hole.
U.S. central bank Chairman Ben Bernanke tells attendees at Fed conference in Jackson Hole, Wyo., that the global economy is emerging from recession — adding that the downturn could have turned disastrous absent aggressive action by monetary-policy makers.
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NAR-defined “positive data” on housing:
- Focus on the pickup in sales
- Ignore them double-digit year-on-year price declines
Aug 21, 2009, 10:19 a.m. EST
US Stock Gains Accelerate After Positive Housing Data
By MarketWatch
U.S. stocks gained on Friday after a report showed a jump in home sales and crude oil touched its highest price this year.
The Dow Jones Industrial Average was recently higher by 148 points at 9498. The S&P 500 gained 1.8% to rise to 1025 and the Nasdaq Composite Index was up 1.5%, climbing back above the 2000 level.
Markets moved decisively higher after a report showed that existing-home sales climbed to their highest level in nearly two years from June to July as cheaper prices and the availability of tax credits continued to entice buyers.
The National Association of Realtors said home resales rose 7.2% last month, a stronger gain than economists had expected.
Foreclosures and short sales reflect 31% of sales in July. Distressed property sales have pushed prices lower, year over year, attracting buyers not sidelined by unemployment or tight credit conditions. The median price for an existing home last month was $178,400, a 15.1% decrease from July 2008.
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Economic Report
Aug 21, 2009, 10:57 a.m. EST
US July existing home sales up fourth straight month
By Ruth Mantell, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Affordability pushed up resales of U.S. single-family homes and condos 7.2% in July to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 5.24 million, the highest level since August 2007, the National Association of Realtors reported Friday.
Resales have gained for four consecutive straight months, the longest streak of increases since 2004. “Momentum is building,” said Lawrence Yun, NAR’s chief economist.
Economists surveyed by MarketWatch had expected sales to rise to an annual rate of 5 million, from a June reading of 4.89 million. Regionally, July’s resales rose 13.4% in the Northeast, 10.9% in the Midwest, and 7.1% in the South. Resales were down 1.7% in the West.
“The bottom line: this is a very strong report and speaks to the recent improvement in the U.S. housing market,” wrote Ian Pollick, economics strategist with TD Securities, in a research note.
The inventory of unsold homes remained high, rising 7.3% to 4.09 million in July. There was a 9.4-month supply at the July sales pace, matching the prior month’s result. The high inventory could hold back a housing recovery, wrote analysts at RDQ Economics in a research note.
“The supply of homes for sale remains elevated and this is likely to continue to put downward pressure on home prices in the near-term and dampen any housing recovery (a dynamic that will probably be exacerbated by the continued weakness in the labor market),” according to RDQ.
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Dead banker bounce anyone?
Or the normal seasonal increase in sales….
Yep.
I can’t find YOY sales volume data. I’m sure it’s down, but want to find the specific details to fire back with when I get barraged this weekend with, “See ~ it’s all over!”
Anyone have a link?
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/HSN1F?cid=97
see the “% change from a year ago” link in the lower right.
FWIW - we are indeed at a bottom in housing sales, and will naturally see some bounces up off the bottom. That’s not saying much though, being that the bottom was at a record-low level.
“There is something about August going into September where everybody in Washington gets all wee weed up!” - B. Obama
Can anyone splain this one? I remember Bush used to make statements that made on sense to me. This one… I have not a clue. Does it have to do with incontinence, or do they roll up a few dobbies and inhale?
He’s talking to you and other plenty-plaints with petty beefs.
He’s right.
Nah… Not talking to me, I’m way south of the cesspool, I live in the land of cotton. His comments were directed to your leaders in D.C. the perma-pissed bed wetters.
That would be both Repub and Demos right?
BINGO!!!!
That’s odd. I hear you squealin’ and whining here everyday.
because the little piggies go ‘wee-wee-wee’ all the way home?
I get it.
Piggies make a whole lot of noise at feeding time to gather the herd and get the attention of the feeders.
We have a winner.
Never mind, the WH press sec. Bobby Gibbs just defined what HBIC meant by “wee-weed” up.
He was calling the D.C. clown troupe, bed-wetters.Calling his own peeps out.
Clunker program spent, dealers to get government cheese…
Scott Ott Examiner Columnist August 21, 2009
Uncle Sam’s Cash-for-Clunkers program has already spent its allotted $3 billion, making it by government standards an instant success, and forcing Democrats look for alternative ways to compensate auto retailers for the deeply-discounted deals they’ve made on some 457,000 vehicles.
Many car dealers have yet to receive a nickel from the federal government after waving goodbye to dozens of customers who drove off of their lots in new cars marked down by up to $4,500.
However, President Barack Obama today told dealers not to “worry about reimbursement because if cash runs out, we have warehouses across the land stacked high with government-surplus cheese, canned hams and other tangible commodities every bit as good as cash in these tough economic times.”
The president hailed the “surprise success” of the program, noting that “from all I know about economics and business, I never expected that drastically reducing the price of a new car would increase sales like that. It’s like there’s some kind of magical power that turns lookers into buyers when you slash the sticker. Who knew?”
Obama said he has assigned some of the best and brightest minds from top Ivy League universities to “flesh out” his new economic theory that substantially lower prices can drive demand even during times when people are carefully regulating their spending.
“If the principle I’ve discovered holds true for other products as well,” he said, “then for all intents and purposes, this economic crisis is over. I’ll just sign an executive order commanding all retailers to cut their prices in exchange for a government promise to reimburse them at a later date.”
LOL.
(And FWIW - the “if cash runs out” thing happened in in 1836. Sorry - too late.)
Jive talking
Jive talking But I don’t speak jive.
Oh stewardess! I speak jive.
I am serious… and don’t call me Shirley
The Gibb Brothers are not in the house.
Well at least he got the weed part right.
Jive talkin
Its just your jive talkin
Youre telling me lies, yeah
Jive talkin
You wear a disguise
Jive talkin
So misunderstood, yeah
Jive talkin
You really no good
Oh, my child
Youll never know
Just what you mean to me
Oh, my child
You got so much
Youre gonna take away my energy
With all your jive talkin
Youre telling me lies, yeah
Good lovin
Still gets in my eyes
Nobody believes what you say
Its just your jive talkin
That gets in the way
Oh my love
Youre so good
Treating me so cruel
There you go
With your fancy lies
Leavin me lookin
Like a dumbstruck fool
With all your
Jive talkin
Youre telling me lies, yeah
Jive talkin
You wear a disguise
Jive talkin
So misunderstood, yeah
Jive talkin
You just aint no good
Love talkin
Is all very fine, yeah
Jive talkin
Just isnt a crime
And if theres somebody
Youll love till you die
Then all that jive talkin
Just gets in your eye
Jive talkin
Youre telling me lies,yeah
Good lovin
Still gets in my eyes
Nobody believes what you say
Its just your jive talkin
That gets in the way
Love talkin
Is all very fine, yeah
Jive talkin, just isnt a crime
And if theres somebody
Youll love till you die
Then all that jive talkin
Just gets in your eye
New dorm at UA rising
And here’s the housing angle on this story: During the past few years, there have been quite a few “investment” home purchases near the UA. The idea was to rent the houses out to students or buy the house for your own Ashley or Justin, then sell and bank the profits a few years later.
Well, nowadays, that plan isn’t working out too well. Seems that a lot of other people did the same thing. Which means that there are a lot of SFR vacancies near the UA.
And, after several years of being occupied by students, the houses are really worn and torn. Which means that the owners will have to sink some serious bucks into repairs and spruce-ups before the houses can be listed on the resale market.
Furthermore, there are lots and lots of UA area apartment complexes that still have vacancies. And school starts this coming Monday.
From a NYT editorial (no byline):
Debit Card Trap
[...]
Some bankers claim the system benefits debit card users, allowing them to keep spending when they are out of money. But interest rate calculations tell a different story. Credit card companies, for example, were rightly criticized when some drove up interest rates to 30 percent or more. According to a 2008 study by the F.D.I.C., overdraft fees for debit cards can carry an annualized interest rate that exceeds 3,500 percent.
The banks, which have grown addicted to overdraft fees, will almost certainly resist new regulation in this area. But there are several things that federal regulators must do to protect the public.
First, banks must be barred from automatically enrolling customers in overdraft programs. This must be a service that customers opt in to — and only after they are provided full information about the fees and the penalties they will incur. These disclosure statements must meet the same rules laid out in truth-in-lending laws, since overdraft charges are essentially short-term loans.
Banks must also be required to warn customers in real time when a debit card charge will overdraw their accounts — and what fees they will incur if they still decide to proceed with the purchase.
This will require new technology. But there is almost no chance that the banks will invest in it unless they are legally required to do so. Until that happens, buyers beware. That cup of coffee may be even more expensive than you realize.
More goobermint regulation is only going to destroy this great nation. 3,500% interest rates is how people learn and vitally necessary to ensure the social contract.
Earthquake in FOREX market registers on the exchange rate seismograph:
USD-CHF 1.0575 -0.0054 -0.5127% 12:24
USD-SEK 7.0114 -0.1363 -1.9066% 12:23
USD-DKK 5.1931 -0.0290 -0.5545% 12:23
USD-NOK 5.9924 -0.0220 -0.3655% 12:23
USD-CZK 17.7690 -0.1120 -0.6262% 12:23
USD-SKK 21.0190 -0.1157 -0.5474% 12:23
USD-PLN 2.8640 -0.0410 -1.4097% 12:23
USD-HUF 187.2040 -2.2563 -1.1909% 12:23
USD-RUB 31.6430 -0.1926 -0.6051% 12:22
USD-TRY 1.4840 -0.0068 -0.4545% 12:23
USD-ILS 3.7975 -0.0230 -0.6020% 12:21
USD-KES 76.2500 -0.0500 -0.0655% 10:05
USD-ZAR 7.7898 -0.1102 -1.3956% 12:23
USD-MAD 7.9021 -0.0234 -0.2959% 12:23
Mexico decriminalizes small-scale drug possession.
(AP) – 7 hours ago
MEXICO CITY — Mexico decriminalized small amounts of marijuana, cocaine and heroin on Friday — a move that prosecutors say makes sense even in the midst of the government’s grueling battle against drug traffickers.
Prosecutors said the new law sets clear limits that keep Mexico’s corruption-prone police from extorting casual users and offers addicts free treatment to keep growing domestic drug use in check.
“This is not legalization, this is regulating the issue and giving citizens greater legal certainty,” said Bernardo Espino del Castillo of the attorney general’s office.
The new law sets out maximum “personal use” amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities no longer face criminal prosecution.
Espino del Castillo says, in practice, small users almost never did face charges anyway. Under the previous law, the possession of any amount of drugs was punishable by stiff jail sentences, but there was leeway for addicts caught with smaller amounts.
“We couldn’t charge somebody who was in possession of a dose of a drug, there was no way … because the person would claim they were an addict,” he said.
Despite the provisions, police sometimes hauled in suspects and demanded bribes, threatening long jail sentences if people did not pay.
“The bad thing was that it was left up to the discretion of the detective, and it could open the door to corruption or extortion,” Espino del Castillo said.
Anyone caught with drug amounts under the new personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory.
The maximum amount of marijuana for “personal use” under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four joints. The limit is a half gram for cocaine, the equivalent of about 4 “lines.” For other drugs, the limits are 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams for LSD.
whoa… 5 grams=4 joints? Maybe by Bob Marley standards.
They must have crappy weed down in them parts.
The first time I went to Jamaica in the early 80’s the cabbie at the airport offer to sell me a joint the size of a small banana rolled in brown paper (grocery sack) for $1.00.
Grown in the blue mountains up there with the coffee, not far from Cinnamon Hill near Johnny Cashes house.
I was just listening to some JC - and friends…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uw1bHaUk1CM
The crowd goes wild at Johnny’s part
and for something completely different…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nb6Gbi1MpoE
probably the only English rock song that sounds better in German - Helden
“ich bin dann König”…
Tourism, Baby! This’ll help fill those empty hotel rooms.
Rise of the Super-Rich Hits a Sobering Wall
By DAVID LEONHARDT and GERALDINE FABRIKANT, New York Times
August 20, 2009
The rich have been getting richer for so long that the trend has come to seem almost permanent.
They began to pull away from everyone else in the 1970s. By 2006, income was more concentrated at the top than it had been since the late 1920s. The recent news about resurgent Wall Street pay has seemed to suggest that not even the Great Recession could reverse the rise in income inequality.
But economists say — and data is beginning to show — that a significant change may in fact be under way. The rich, as a group, are no longer getting richer. Over the last two years, they have become poorer. And many may not return to their old levels of wealth and income anytime soon.
For every investment banker whose pay has recovered to its prerecession levels, there are several who have lost their jobs — as well as many wealthy investors who have lost millions. As a result, economists and other analysts say, a 30-year period in which the super-rich became both wealthier and more numerous may now be ending.
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What? I thought the days of lobbiest paying off D.C. were going to end, once the new crew took over.
Nissan spent $850,000 lobbying government on Cash for Clunkers, other issues in 2nd quarter. August 21, 2009, 12:36 pm EDT
WASHINGTON (AP) — Nissan North America Inc. spent $850,000 in the second quarter to lobby the federal government on the Cash for Clunkers program and other issues, according to a recent regulatory filing.
Nissan North America, the U.S. arm of the Japanese automaker, also lobbied on legislation related to energy, fuel economy and economic trade issues during the April-June period, according to a disclosure form filed July 20 with the House clerk’s office.
Automakers like Nissan have been major beneficiaries of the government’s Cash for Clunkers program, which offers rebates up to $4,500 for consumers who trade in vehicles that get 18 mpg or less for a new, more fuel-efficient car.
The Nissan Versa sedan was the ninth most popular new vehicle purchase through the program, which the Transportation Department will end at 8 p.m. EDT Monday after burning through much of its $3 billion in funding in just a month.
I like knowing even international corporations are spending big bucks for access to my tax dollars!
From their point of view, that’s $850,000 well spent. Probably a better return than the DOW.
Maybe they should put ALL their money into Lobbying…
No kidding, lobbying seems far more lucrative nowadays then actually producing anything………………….and keeping people employed.
“We have the best government money can buy.” - Will Rogers
Will the “shadow” foreclosure inventory ever show up in bulk? Unlikely, according to WSJ:
By Nick Timiraos
August 21, 2009, 9:38 AM ET
For weeks, even months, real-estate professionals have been asking the same question: when will the so-called shadow inventory of homes in the process of foreclosure finally hit the market?
Most mortgage servicers ended a foreclosure moratorium in March, and pre-foreclosure filings have accelerated since then, even as the supply of bank-owned properties in some markets has dwindled.
But what if that wave of foreclosures never hits the market? “For those of you still waiting for a surge of foreclosure sales, the truth is you’ll likely be waiting a long time,” writes Sean O’Toole, the founder of ForeclosureRadar dot com, which tracks foreclosure filings in California. He breaks down his argument at his blog in this pithy post here.
For one, the time between a mortgage default and a foreclosure listing has grown longer as more homeowners try to complete loan modifications or short sales. Banks aren’t likely to cancel foreclosures even if they put a borrower into a trial modification. Instead, they’ll simply keep the opportunity to foreclose in case the loan modification fails.
One clue that modifications will work: cancellations of foreclosure auctions. So far, cancellations are up slightly, Mr. O’Toole says, but not enough to explain the yawning gap between mortgage defaults and bank-owned listings.
One possibility: foreclosures will simply stay at an elevated level for the next couple years, he says, but there won’t be a huge wave of inventory added all at once. For now, California is seeing a housing inventory shortage, in part because short sales are still hard to execute. Many homeowners are underwater and can’t sell, and those who can don’t want to put their homes on the market if they’re looking at a big loss.
Mr. O’Toole has done some interesting analysis that shows just how profound government policies may have been in encouraging banks to slow down foreclosures. His argument: When the U.S. last September began purchasing direct obligations of government-sponsored mortgage companies, and later began buying mortgage-backed securities that sent a message to banks that they didn’t need to refill empty cash cushions by foreclosing. Policymakers also changed accounting rules so that banks wouldn’t have to take as severe writedowns. (Scroll down this page to see the accompanying chart).
While the raw data suggests that foreclosures should be increasing, it’s harder to predict because “there’s so much government middling into this process,” Mr. O’Toole told the Developments blog. “When you have this much government intervention going on, things don’t necessarily proceed as they should.” (See our earlier post this week on the topic.)
As for the idea that banks are deliberately holding onto foreclosed homes? Mr. O’Toole shoots that idea down too, with a quick back-of-the-envelope sketch that shows that while the gap between bank repossessions and foreclosure sales stands at around 90,000 in California, the actual shadow inventory is probably closer to 22,500.
So - where did the other 67,500 homes go?
There’s at least 50 of them in my neighborhood.
More evidence that no end to the crisis is in sight: The epidemic of the dreaded “Spitzer face” disease continues to spread among top policy makers…
F.D.I.C. Seeks to Attract More Buyers of Banks
By ERIC DASH
Published: August 20, 2009
Big banks still hold FDIC captive
Rolfe Winkler
August 21st, 2009
Sheila Bair has moved with impressive alacrity to shutter failed small and medium-sized banks. But she is still held hostage by the too-big-to-fail four.
Over the last eight days, her agency has been particularly busy, handling the two largest bank failures of the year. Last Friday it was Colonial Bank, today it will be Guaranty Bank.
With $25 billion and $14 billion of assets respectively, Colonial and Guaranty are the sixth- and 10th-largest failures in the history of the FDIC. Still, they pale in size compared to the biggest banks.
Bank of America Merrill Lynch, which had $2.3 trillion of assets at the end of the second quarter, is nearly 100 times larger than Colonial. JPMorgan Chase, with $2.1 trillion, and Citigroup, with $1.8 trillion, are nearly as big. Wells Fargo had $1.3 trillion, 100 times more than Guaranty. These amounts don’t include hundreds of billions of dollars of off-balance sheet assets.
Yet even Colonial and Guaranty are large enough to give the FDIC indigestion. Its deposit insurance fund had just $13 billion as of March 31. The 56 failures since then will cost it an estimated $16 billion, including nearly $3 billion for Colonial. (That amount excludes Guaranty – the FDIC should provide an estimate for those losses later today.)
It’s an unsettling thought if you have money in a bank. Officially, FDIC backs $4.8 trillion worth of deposits. If you include “temporarily” insured deposits, the total is $6.3 trillion. Yet the insurance fund protecting these deposits is going broke. Soon, the FDIC may have to draw on its credit line at Treasury.
It’s not surprising, given the sorry state of the Deposit Insurance Fund and the gargantuan heft of the big four, that FDIC is taking a bifurcated approach to bank resolutions.
Bair has moved decisively to close small and medium-sized banks. With the monsters, she not only assisted in their bailouts — providing federal insurance for their debt even as she already insures their deposits — she also sponsored their continued growth — putting WaMu in the hands of JPMorgan and pushing Wachovia into the arms of Wells Fargo.
Not that she had much choice. The biggest banks are far too big for her to resolve. One way to measure this is deposits in failed banks as a percentage of GDP.
“The biggest banks are far too big for her to resolve.”
I am sure this solution is overly simplistic, but here goes:
1) Bust the big banks up into small banks.
2) Resolve the small ones one bank at a time.
3) Eliminate further risk subsidies for too-big-to-fail banks.
Boeing to announce more layoffs today.
Boeing plans to give 60-day layoff notices to about 500 workers companywide today, with about 275 of those in the Puget Sound region.
Seattle Times
Boeing plans to give 60-day layoff notices to about 500 workers companywide today, with about 275 of those in the Puget Sound region.
About 200 of those receiving the notices work in the commercial-airplanes division, Boeing said.
Boeing has been issuing layoff notices monthly since January, when it said it needed to cut 10,000 positions in 2009. Through the end of July, Boeing had cut about 2,400 jobs companywide and not filled more than 1,000 additional open positions.
At the end of July, the Boeing workforce in Washington stood at just over 74,000, down more than 2,800 since its most recent high last October.
I hate that. I like Boeings so much better than Airbuses. I’d love to see Boeing dominate the international airlines fleets.
You must be wrong. Everyone knows ‘it’s different here’.
Boeing is behind on the Dreamliner due to bad management and now a major fault in the wing box.
Another case of “Death by MBA.”
A happy FDIC Friday to everyone!
Banking Blues
by Kent Bernhard, Jr. Aug 21 2009
It’s not just the big banks that are in trouble. Community and regional banks are also struggling under the weight of bad loans, with four to seven closing every week for the past two months.
Fridays are bad days for banks, and it’s likely to stay that way for a while.
That’s because Friday seems to be regulators’ favorite day to close banks.
On one June Friday, bank regulators shut down five banks in Georgia, California, and Minnesota. None was very big, but it was the highest number of one-day closures since 1992.
That record stood for a week. Then, regulators closed seven banks—six in Illinois and one in Texas—costing the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation $314.3 million. In all, regulators had closed 74 banks so far this year by August 16.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if we see three, four, five banks fail every Friday for the next few months,” said Tim Yeager, associate professor of finance and the Arkansas Bankers Association Chair at the University of Arkansas. “I think the commercial real estate market is really weak right now…and it’s the next shoe to drop. It wouldn’t surprise me to see a couple hundred fail,” over the next couple of years.
That rate has held true throughout July and August.
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Georgia’s Ebank Shut, 78th U.S. Bank Failure of 2009 (Update1)
By Alison Vekshin
Aug. 21 (Bloomberg) — Ebank of Atlanta was closed after the U.S. thrift regulator said the lender was “critically undercapitalized,” pushing the toll of bank failures to 78 this year in the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., named as receiver, arranged to transfer ebank’s deposits to Stearns Bank in St. Cloud, Minnesota, the agency said in a statement. Ebank had a single branch and 21 employees, the Office of Thrift Supervision said in a statement.
Ebank “was critically undercapitalized and in an unsafe or unsound condition,” the OTS said in a statement. The collapse will cost the FDIC deposit insurance fund about $63 million, or 48 percent of total deposits, the agency said.
Regulators are closing banks at the fastest pace in 17 years as losses mount from unpaid real-estate debt. The FDIC is offering to share losses with potential buyers, a practice used during the U.S. savings-and-loan crisis in the late 1980s.
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Another four banks bit the dust today. Did the top brass at the Fed give one another pats on the back at their Jackson Hole pow-wow for overseeing this tsunami wave of bank failures?
The New York Times
August 21, 2009, 8:25 pm
Why Are Banks Failing?
What ails banks?
This morning, there were two available answers, one in my column in The Times, and another in The Wall Street Journal. I emphasized bad loans at the banks that have been failing recently; The Journal emphasized dubious securities, and pointed to the expected failure tonight of Guaranty Bank.
Both are right, of course. It seemed to me that we already knew a lot of securities were toxic; that is why the banks don’t want to let us know market values of them. But I still think we will see a lot more smaller banks fail due to bad loans.
Here’s the scorecard for tonight.
Guaranty Bank did fail, as expected. The acquiring bank took $12 billion of assets, but demanded loss-sharing agreements on $11 billion of those. We don’t have details, but it appears that the acquirer trusted neither the loans nor the securities Guaranty held.
The first failure of the night was eBank of Atlanta. It appeared to own no securities, but to have lost money on real estate loans.
Another Georgia bank, First Coweta, also failed. It appears to have been done in by mortgage loans, not securities.
The fourth institution closed tonight was CapitalSouth Bank in Alabama. It has some debt securities, but they do not appear to have been a big problem. The problem was construction loans.
For what it is worth, the F.D.I.C. estimated that its losses from Guaranty would equal 23 percent of the bank’s assets. The losses from the other three ranged from 24 percent to 44 percent, with eBank being the worst.
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Las Vegas jobless rate hits all-time high of 13.1 percent
Las Vegas Review-Journal
Nevada’s latest jobless numbers show no signs of the “green shoots” that economists say they see nationally. The Silver State’s unemployment rose to 12.5 percent in July, while joblessness in especially hard-hit Las Vegas surged to 13.1 percent. It’s the highest jobless rate both statewide and locally since the state Department of Employment, Training and Rehabilitation began tracking data in 1976.
Bill Anderson, chief economist with the employment department, said Nevada remains mired in the longest, deepest recession since World War II, and recent labor-market trends don’t hint at any improvement. Joblessness in Nevada jumped 1.9 percentage points from April to June, the biggest three-month spike on record. Nevada shed nearly 28,000 jobs in the three-month period, including 15,000 jobs from June to July alone. In all, 179,300 Nevadans are unemployed and actively seeking work.
That jobless rate doesn’t include discouraged workers who’ve stopped hunting for jobs, nor does it include underemployed Nevadans who’d like to work full-time but can find only part-time jobs. A July report from the employment department said joblessness could well exceed 18 percent statewide if you factor in discouraged and underemployed residents.
Growth in the national economy will likely return before expansion revisits Nevada, Anderson said. He noted that several indicators point to improvements nationally: The gross domestic product isn’t shrinking nearly as quickly as it had been a couple of quarters ago, unemployment actually ticked down 0.1 percent in July to 9.4 percent and housing starts rose 3.6 percent in June. But even as the national recession flirts with the bottom, Nevada’s economy could head lower still.
“When that growth will trickle down to Nevada is less certain,” Anderson said.
Hey Az. You don’t this wimpy thumb sucker soiling your state anyway.
Travel expert Arthur Frommer says he’ll avoid Arizona because of Obama protesters’ gun display August 21, 2009, 1:58 pm EDT
PHOENIX (AP) — Travel icon Arthur Frommer says he won’t be spending his tourism dollars at the Grand Canyon, or anywhere else in Arizona, because the state’s laws allow people he described as “thugs” and “extremists” to openly carry firearms.
The author of budget-travel guides said on his blog Wednesday that he was “shocked beyond measure” by reports that protesters openly carried guns and rifles outside a Phoenix building where President Barack Obama spoke on Monday.
Frommer says he won’t personally travel in a state where civilians carry loaded weapons as a means of political protest.
Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon says he spoke with Frommer Thursday and invited him to visit the city to clear up any possible misconceptions about safety.
Limiting his studies to places that don’t including the use of weapons for political demonstration reasons is really going to put a crimp in the contents of his guides. He’ll have to cut back to a pamphlet or two.
“…or two”
Two pamphlets is right: Chicago and D.C. - the twin hearts of the anti-gun universe.
Yeah! We have enough tourists.
one of my favorite bumper stickers
Tourist Season
Why do they call it a season if you can’t buy tags?
And I resent being called a thug or extremist. I’m a taxpayer.
Despite being a gun owner and a strong supporter of the 2nd ammendment,I have to say bringing guns to a political rally is about the dumbest thing ever.
It’s thuggery, they obviosly wanted to intimidate the opposition. These are the real American Taliban, eventually one of these talk show nut jobs like Glen Beck will convince one of these idiots to kill someone. They’re out there comparing Obama to Hitler and Stalin because he wants a health plan. They’re out there convincing the elderly that they have to fear death panels. If this is the average intelligence of Americans we are in real trouble.
It is and we are.
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Target shooter myself and have to agree with Meatson.
At a controlled range with other mellow shooters having fun = OK
At a rally with lots of not so mellow armed protesters = NOT OK
Paper targets and clays are the only things I’ll ever shoot.
I’m thinking Frommer is in the wrong country if guns bother him that much.
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/willie/willie082109/1.gif
Colo. could be 1st state to lower minimum wage
By Kristen Wyatt
The Associated Press
Posted: 08/19/2009 01:31:15 PM MDT
Updated: 08/19/2009 01:50:37 PM MDT
DENVER — Colorado’s lowest-paid workers could make even less money next year. That’s because the state has an adjustable minimum wage that may become the first in the nation to drop slightly along with the cost of living.
Colorado is one of 10 states where the minimum wage is tied to inflation. The indexing is thought to protect low-wage workers from having flat wages as the cost of living goes up.
But because Colorado’s provision allows wage declines, the minimum wage could actually drop 3 cents an hour next year. If the wage is reduced by state labor officials in September as expected, it would be the first minimum wage decrease in any state since the federal minimum wage law was passed in 1938.
It’s a small drop, but the prospect has Colorado’s minimum-wage workers fearing times are about to get worse.
http://www.denverpost.com/business/ci_13161137
Well, there ya go.
Skrood and no one is kissing.
damn, it isn’t like making minimum wage is such a party anyway. And they will,if they haven’t already, go to more food stamps etc.
Way to go, CO. just skroo the ones who work so damn hard.
Nickel and Dimed.
Enlightening book.
That is great book, but it’s really just the tip of the iceberg.
I would say this is fair (and yes, consumer prices have dropped–I’ve been watching) but then again it’s CO, and their min. wage is more or less inadequate anyway, from what I can tell.
Most people there seem badly underpaid and labor has no power. No wonder the plutocrats love it so much.
Wall Street folks are all feeling much better over the uptick in home sales, even as central bankers in Jackson Hole are giving one other group hugs for rescuing the global economy from GD2.
How is it again that Wall Street has anything whatsoever to do with home sales?
House proud
Wall Street is “feeling a heck of a lot better” with existing-home sales at a two-year pinnacle, says Bill Stone of PNC Wealth Management.
Yep, I feel so good I may buy a six-pack of south Fla. condos this weekend.
Nah, I’ll buy a case of Rolling Rock instead, better investment!
Hahaha! Nice. And true, too, is the funniest part.
My link did not work, but the audio is linked from the MarketWatch dot com home page.
Funny how incest works… We (U.S. Taxpayers) GIVE Bolivia 2 billions dollars to drill for oil and guess who buys 2.6 billion in Petrobras stock? Why none other then mister George Soros…
“George Soros must be very bullish on stocks, he bought a lot, especially oil. He was already heavily invested in energy stocks, and he bought more. Petroleo Brasileiro alone is accounted for more than 22% of his fund. Soros Fund Management LLC”.
Business Times Singapore Investment Roundtable
Equities: What’s on the horizon William R. Thomson
Aug 21, 2009 OVERVIEW
STOCK prices around the world recently hit their highest levels for this year, buoyed by a wave of optimism about prospects for a global economic recovery - only to fall back to a three-month low this week on fresh doubts about the sustainability of that recovery. So, is it ‘for real’ or is it destined to run out of steam? The Business Times empanelled a team of key experts to answer this critical question, and to tell us whether the world faces a threat of inflation, deflation or stagflation in the coming months. There were mixed views on the prospects for equity markets, but interestingly, everyone on the panel was bullish about gold.
Panellists
Mark Mobius, executive chairman, Templeton Asset Management
Eisuke Sakakibara, former vice finance minister for international affairs, Japan, and now Professor at Waseda University, Tokyo
Jesper Koll, president and CEO, Tantallon Research, Japan
The Hon Robert Lloyd-George, chairman of Lloyd George Management, Hong Kong
Ernest Kepper, former senior official of the International Finance Corporation (IFC) and Wall Street investment banker who now heads an Asian financial consultancy
William Thomson, chairman, Private Capital Ltd, Hong Kong and senior adviser to Axiom Funds, London and formerly a Vice President of the Asian Development Bank
Christopher Wood, managing director and equity strategist, CLSA Asia-Pacific Markets, Hong Kong
Moderator: Anthony Rowley, Tokyo correspondent, The Business Times
http://www.321gold.com/editorials/thomson/thomson082109.html
Damn, more good news just after the close…
Unemployment rates hit double digits in 15 states, D.C.
California joblessness up to 11.9%; Michigan, Rhode Island lead country.
Aug 21, 2009, 4:10 p.m. EST
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — There were 15 states that had unemployment rates in double digits last month, with four including California posting their highest rates since at least 1976, the Labor Department reported Friday.
The report, which gives a regional breakdown of the national employment data released earlier this month, again put Michigan in the lead with the highest jobless rate — 15%.
The state, reeling from the auto industry’s the shutdowns, registered a gain of 38,100 nonfarm payrolls since June but has lost 280,800 in the past year.
Rhode Island followed with a jobless rate of 12.7%. Nevada, at 12.5%, had the third-worst rate.
The District of Columbia also had a double-digit rate, of 10.6%.
Jobless rates in California, at 11.9%, as well as Nevada and Rhode Island set highs for the state surveys, which go back to 1976. Georgia’s rate of 10.3% was also a record for the series.
Workers had the best shot at finding employment in North Dakota, which again had the lowest rate — 4.2%.
Housing Markets Finally Out of a Tailspin?
There are increasing signs that housing markets are coming out of their tailspin, as sales of previously owned homes rose in July. WSJ’s Nick Timiraos discusses housing markets with CEO of Century 21 Tom Kunz.
These compare with a national jobless rate of 9.4%. Economists took the slight drop from June’s 9.5% rate, combined with the smallest drop seen in U.S. nonfarm payrolls in nearly a year, as a sign that the recession may be easing. See story on national employment.
In June’s report, 15 states plus D.C. reported jobless rates of 10% or more.
The deterioration in jobs prospects in various parts of the country appears to support economists who anticipate that consumers won’t recover quickly, even if economic growth starts to pick up.
Earlier Friday, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke said that the global economy is beginning to emerge from its worst crisis in generations and that “prospects for a return to growth in the near term appear good.”
Wonderful piece on C & AIG by David Favre. I am surprised stock didn’t tank.
Can’t find it. Link or another clue?
Buffett’s imaginary economy
Posted by: Rolfe Winkler
Warren Buffett is back as the nation’s financial conscience, publishing an op-ed in yesterday’s NYT lamenting the dangers of too much monetary and fiscal stimulus. As regular readers of this blog are aware, that’s a message with which I wholeheartedly agree. My problem with Buffett’s piece is that he makes a good argument and then totally undercuts it in his conclusion:
Our immediate problem is to get our country back on its feet and flourishing — “whatever it takes” still makes sense. Once recovery is gained, however, Congress must end the rise in the debt-to-G.D.P. ratio and keep our growth in obligations in line with our growth in resources.
This have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too approach is typically what we get from Paul Krugman: Yeah, debt is a problem and has to be dealt with long-term, but in the meantime we should jack up deficit spending in order to boost growth. To paraphrase St. Augustine, make us fiscally and monetarily prudent, just not yet. Ben Bernanke said something of that sort in a speech. He was trying to be funny.
The problem, it seems to me, is that rising GDP and employment—i.e. “recovery”—is not compatible with de-leveraging, which is what Buffett is talking about.
When consumers try to cut debt and boost savings, the economy goes into a deflationary spiral that Keynesians argue must be counteracted with fiscal and monetary stimulus.*
Consumers de-lever, government re-levers.
Private consumption and government spending now drive something like 80% of GDP. It can’t keep rising unless consumers, the government or both continue borrowing huge sums.
The goldilocks economy Buffett describes, in which we can have “recovery” without increasing debt, is a fantasy.
My point is that in order to reduce debt we have to endure some sort of deflationary recession. The alternative is to spend and print perpetually, which Buffett points out is the worse option.
What Buffett should have said? Suck it up folks, we’ve no choice but to learn to live with less.
Be careful out there hiking in Utar
“Authorities say they have found a hiker who went missing in southern Utah. The Washington County Sheriff’s Office said rescuers found 49-year-old Jim Williamson Tuesday in the Red Mountain area near Ivins. He was taken to a local hospital for treatment. The Salt Lake City man apparently fell off a ledge into a narrow canyon. Rescue crews had to land a helicopter on the ledge, rapel down and hoist Williamson out on a stretcher. Williamson fell far and knocked most of his teeth out, but he is expected to be okay”.
Was the hiker per chance LDS? I see the potential subject matter in that story for many future church talks.
Like how? Like ‘don’t fall on your face when you topple off a ledge?’
Ahh…church talks in Fast and Testimony meeting…how I don’t miss them…
I was thinking more along the lines of, “I prayed, and Bog’s holy angels came down to save me.” Ochen6 horror show?
P.S. Having myself once been stuck on a ledge while hiking, I can assure you that such situations provide event the most fervent doubters with a powerful urge to pray.
“I prayed, and Bog’s holy angels came down to save me.” Ochen6 horror show?
Horrorshow, indeed.
Except why didn’t he pray to be more coordinated in the first place, ’cause then he’d still have all his teeth, instead of leaving them sprinkled carelessly around in the wilderness.
P.S. Having myself once been stuck on a ledge while hiking, I can assure you that such situations provide event the most fervent doubters with a powerful urge to pray.
Sure. I hiked the Escalantes all the time growing up, so I know about getting stuck and falling off ledges and running out of water and flash floods and rattlesnakes and all of that ‘faith-encouraging’ type of event.
At the end of the average day out there I typically had prayed to every God I could think of, starting alphabetically with Anat and ending with Zeus, and then, if needed, I invented a few.
…And lookit me! As a result of my far-flung and all-encompassing faithfulness I still have a head full of big pretty white teeth.
“Williamson fell far and knocked most of his teeth out”
So now he has summer teeth.
Some are here and some are there.
The entire orthopedic center at Eisenhower is closed, all of Aug-Sept 30. Closed at noon on Fridays.
No one is at the office at all, just an answering machine.
Either they are being “furloughed” or the medical/pharma corporate complex is making way to much money.
I doubt they are ‘furloughed’. I saw 100s of volunteers in the hospital. I saw so many people standing around in uniforms.
Just wanted to add an observation.
I know it’s late to be commenting (I’m on a night shift this week and next).
For those who don’t follow Denninger, you might have missed a great explanation (with #’s) that explains why Japan was in doldrums for years and why we will be too:
The saving/borrowing spread and its effect on GDP
Yes, he gets worked up as usual, but he’s dropped the profanity and it’s very easy to understand.
What do investment bankers do when they get bored?
Mr Jenkins was a contestant on the VH1 reality show Megan Wants a Millionaire, a US television show in which men with a net worth of at least $1 million vie to win a woman seeking to become a “trophy wife”. He is variously described as an architect, property developer and investment banker.
What do investment bankers do when they get bored?
Oooh! Oooh! I know!
…they kill their wives and then get gross with the remains?
Mr. Jenkins is a property developer and investment banker.
I noticed that, too.
And I thought to myself, “This guy is actually one of the more upstanding representatives of the kind.”
What do investment bankers do when they get bored?
Oooh! Oooh! I know!
…they kill their wives and then get gross with the remains?
I’ve seen this one before! Then they flee incognito to an extradition-free tropical paradise, where they A.) live like lords, happily accessing their larded Swiss bank accounts and ignoring the US freeze on their assets; and B.) loudly proclaim their innocence to anyone who’ll listen, preferably Steve Kroft.
“…they kill their wives and then get gross with the remains?”
Your imagination is far gentler than mine. I was guessing he pulled out all her teeth and fingers while his victim was still alive.
So was Mr Jenkins truly an investment banker, or was he just a scam artist? It is so hard to tell the difference these days, you know?
Evidence is surfacing to suggest the private sector is more efficient than the public sector even in the realm of murder! Who’d of thunk it?
I, for one, hope this notion that the private sector is always prefferred gets rethunk a lot. It really makes no sense to have private contractors conducting military operations, unless endless war is the objective. As was understood as long ago as Shakespeare’s time, ending wars is bad for the mercenary business.
United States
Private security contractors
Blackwater’s dark heart
Aug 21st 2009 | WASHINGTON, DC
From Economist dot com
New revelations about an American private-security contractor
THE “war on terror” has left many blots on America’s reputation—weapons of mass destruction, Abu Ghraib prison, Guantánamo Bay—and one stain continues to darken with time. This week the New York Times reported that the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) had once hired Blackwater, a private-security contractor, in connection with a plots to assassinate al-Qaeda operatives. It was the latest in a string of controversial news. This month Erik Prince, Blackwater’s founder and chairman, was accused of facilitating or committing murder. Blackwater released a statement calling the allegations “unsubstantiated and offensive”.
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United States
Private security contractors
Blackwater’s dark heart
Aug 21st 2009 | WASHINGTON, DC
From Economist com
New revelations about an American private-security contractor
From Shakespeare to Eric Prince:
Now is the winter of our discontent
Made glorious summer by this sun of York;
And all the clouds that lour’d upon our house
In the deep bosom of the ocean buried.
Now are our brows bound with victorious
wreaths;
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments;
Our stern alarums changed to merry meetings;
Our dreadful marches to deliglitful measures.
Grim-visag’d war hath smooth’d his wrinkled
front;
And now,—instead of mounting barbed steeds,
To fright the souls of fearful adversaries,—
He capers nimbly in a lady’s chamber
To the lascivious pleasing of a lute.
But I, that am not shap’d for sportive tricks,
Nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp’d, and want love’s
majesty
To strut before a wanton ambling nymph;
I that am curtail’d of this fair proportion,
Cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
Deform’d, unfinish’d, sent before my time
Into this breathing world, scarce half made up,
And that so lamely and unfashionable
That dogs bark at me, as I halt by them;
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
gave no delight to pass away the time,
Unless to see my shadow in the sun
And descant on mine own deformity:
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover,
To entertain these fair well-spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain,
And hate the idle pleasures of these days.
I like how The Economist seeks out closet communists for their opinions on the implications of the housing free fall. Did it occur to Zandi that lower prices equate to affordability, liquidity and a restoration of activity in the housing market? Free falls are very good for the health of the housing market. Illicitly and surreptitiously using “tax dollars” to prop up prices is very bad, as it stifles economic activity and leaves used home sellers going to bed very hungry.
“We’ve only just begun to live,
White lace and promises
A kiss for luck and we’re on our way.
And yes, We’ve just begun.”
Finance and Economics
America’s housing market
Where it all began
Aug 20th 2009 | NEW YORK
From The Economist print edition
Signs of stabilisation should not obscure the big problems still ahead
Illustration by S. Kambayashi
HE IS hardly your typical distressed seller. Hugh Hefner recently sold his personal residence in Holmby Hills, California, next door to the Playboy mansion, to a 25-year-old entrepreneur for $18m—some 36% below the asking price. It will come as little solace to the ageing Lothario that the discount looked about right: house prices have fallen by one-third from their peak nationwide, and by much more than that in the worst-hit states, such as California, Florida and Nevada.
This blog sure kicked the experts’ @$$es on them home price decline predictions
Although global financial sickness first erupted in American residential property, thanks to ludicrously lax subprime lending, policymakers have recently seemed more worried about asset classes to which the infection subsequently spread. When the Federal Reserve this week extended the life of a facility to support asset-backed securities, for instance, it was more out of concern for commercial property than for housing. Nevertheless, observers agree that America’s economy—and all those banks still saddled with underperforming mortgages—will struggle to recover while house prices are still falling. The Obama administration’s economic successes “will be for naught” if the housing free-fall continues much longer, says Mark Zandi of Moody’s Economy dot com.
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With 1.8m homes already in foreclosure, a “similar amount” may be heading that way, reckons Torsten Slok, an economist at Deutsche Bank. Even those states that were the first to feel pain are still seeing a sharp increase in pre-foreclosure notices. In California one type of notice, for “trustee sales”, leapt by 32% from June to July, according to ForeclosureRadar, a website. Even more worryingly, delinquencies, the raw material for foreclosures, are still on the rise across much of the once-golden state. In Orange County nearly 7% of mortgages are at least three months overdue but not yet foreclosed, up from around 5% at the start of the year.
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My back-of-the-envelope estimate based on something like 13 percent of 45 million mortgages in nonpayment status (including homes already in the foreclosure process) suggests that something like
0.13*45m = 5.9 million homes may soon be in foreclosure. If you net out the 1.8m homes already in foreclosure, that gets you back to 5.9 - 1.8 = 4.1m homes soon to be in foreclosure that aren’t yet. That is more than twice the supposedly “similar amount” of 1.8m.
In fairness to The Economist writers, they did not have access to yesterday’s report when they quoted the Slok figure.
The following passage makes it sound like a healthy correction is indeed on the way; I just wonder what stealth interventions are in the pipeline as the next attempt to thwart market forces from running their natural course. I am fully anticipating a smashing train wreck due to the clash of Mr Market with hubris-driven policy follies.
Once the folly is clear, I still expect prices to bottom out, though it may take “longer than expected” compared to the timing suggested in this article. In the long run, Mr Market trumps policy interventions.
Even if the pace of modification quickens, the overhang of unsold homes will remain dauntingly large. The inventory represents 9-10 months of supply, three times the level in a tight market, says Stan Humphries, Zillow’s chief economist. Paradoxically, a further wave of supply could crash over the market if it is widely seen to be stabilising. Many homeowners who sat tight while prices fell will try to sell at the first sign of a turnaround, according to surveys. In one, conducted by Zillow in July, 29% of respondents were at least “somewhat likely” to put their home on the market once the market perked up. The release of this “shadow inventory” could smother the recovery before it gathers speed.
Just as worrying is the possible recurrence of “payment shock” as interest rates on adjustable-rate mortgages reset higher. Resets on subprime loans have mostly taken place, but the worst is yet to come for some other loans, especially the “Alt-A” category between prime and subprime and a nasty type of mortgage called an “option ARM” (see chart 3). The impact may be muted, but only if the Fed can keep short-term rates very low for the next couple of years—or if the borrowers can refinance as the reset approaches.
Given these downside risks, the recent pop in house prices will probably fizzle. Most economists expect them to fall by a further 5-10 percentage points, to their long-term trend line at roughly 40% below their peak, and not to reach bottom until some time in 2010. The pessimists predict they will go crashing through the trend-line to as little as half their 2006 high.
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“Given these downside risks, the recent pop in house prices will probably fizzle.”
The ‘pop’ is known to stock traders as a ‘dead cat bounce.’ When the stock market tanks, it is normal for a ‘pop’ to follow a ‘drop’, followed by further declines. Since the housing market does not normally bubble up and crash the way the stock market frequently has over the course of financial history, probably not many folks expect a dead cat bounce followed by further declines. But I do…
“We’ve only just begun to live,
White lace and promises
A kiss for luck and we’re on our way.
And yes, We’ve just begun”
Did you know the song debuted in a commerical for Crocker National Bank in California with Paul Williams providing the vocals. The song We’ve Only Just Begun then became the Carpenters signature song.
Just to add more to what I said:
“We’ve Only Just Begun” was written as a bank commercial in 1968 for Crocker Bank. The bank wanted to attract younger customers and newlyweds. After Crocker Bank used the song for their advertisements, Williams was allowed to keep the rights to the song. He sold it to The Carpenters shortly thereafter.
Awesome! I did not realize how apropos that choice of song was to the topic of a banking panic!!!
FDIC Failed Bank List with tonight’s updates
Considering how proud the Fed is of it’s success in ending the crisis, I am frankly surprized at how many banks have recently failed. I wonder how horrendous a financial disaster it would take for them to acknowledge that they were not running a sound and prosperous banking system?
“”Major combat operations in the financial crisis have ended.”
Fed leader gives ‘victory speech’ on economy
By MARK DAVIS
The Kansas City Star
Ben Bernanke, chairman of the Federal Reserve, handed out a central banker’s version of high fives Friday with his latest outlook on the economy.
“The prospects for a return to growth in the near term appear good,” Bernanke told an audience of other central bankers, economic policy makers and investment mavens.
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Group hug time in Jackson Hole
Silver lining if BB is reappointed: The guys waiting in the wings are birds of the same feather.
HuffingtonPost dot com
Michael Brenner
Senior Fellow, the Center for Transatlantic Relations
Posted: August 20, 2009 05:39 PM
In a season of bizarre political happenings, none is stranger than the exaltation of Ben Bernanke as the natural successor to himself as Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. Obama seems primed to reappoint the establishment favorite in yet another declaration of his attachment to the status quo. Bernanke is being promoted from several influential quarters — including some critics of the Fed’s failings in encouraging the very policies and practices that brought the country’s (and the world’s) financial system to the brink of ruin. Nouriel Roubini for one. The economics fraternity is only a step behind Wall Street in the cheerleading.
Our collective near death experience has changed next to nothing in our deformed financial system. Now we seem about to keep in charge the man at the controls when it all went off the rails. Indeed, he is grasping for more powers for the Fed with the backing of Timothy Geithner, Larry Summers and Rahm Emanuel — Obama’s enforcer who been charged with riding herd on his economic advisers. The search for explanation of this phenomenon defies conventional reasoning. We must look to anthropology and social psychology for clues.
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New soap opera
The young, the old and the pregnant
Save Tamiflu for the young, old and pregnant August 22, 2009 3:37 AM ET
All Associated Press newsLONDON (AP) - The World Health Organization said Friday that Tamiflu should only be given to particularly vulnerable people — a warning to countries like Britain where the swine flu drug is being handed out freely.
WHO previously said it was up to doctors to decide who should get Tamiflu. On Friday, the U.N. agency said healthy people who catch mild to moderate cases of swine flu don’t need the drug, but the young, old, pregnant, and those with underlying health problems surely do.
If countries use Tamiflu too liberally, that could lead to resistant viruses, leaving the world with few resources to fight swine flu.
WHO said people thought to be at risk for complications from swine flu — children less than 5 years old, pregnant women, people over age 65 and those with other health problems like heart disease, HIV or diabetes — should definitely get the drug.
How important was government-sanctioned fraud in driving the housing crisis? Pretty important, according to Mr Robert J Zimmer.
I note that as of maybe three years ago, I wrote a lengthy HBB post on the various different type of “premiums” built into housing prices. The “fraud premium” was one of many I described.
Fraud seen as culprit for housing meltdown
August 22nd, 2009, 12:12 am · posted by Jeff Collins
Robert J. Zimmer has been investing in real estate for 32 years, buying and managing residential and multi-family properties in Orange, San Diego and Los Angeles counties. He spent considerable time tracking and analyzing monthly housing data in order to gain a richer understanding of Southern California real-estate cycles.
Investing in real estate, Zimmer says, “is not as simple as location, location, location. Rather it is location, timing and financing!”
In addition, he also is a retired university professor who spent three decades teaching marketing and sales management at California State University, Fullerton.
He composed a nine-page outline on what he sees as the causes of the recent economic meltdown, “Key Participants and their Roles in the Global Financial Crisis,” based primarily on reading penetrating press articles about the crisis. Although Zimmer’s background isn’t in finance, we found his ideas thought-provoking and thought it would be interesting to hear what he has to say.
Us: You determined that the economic meltdown was caused by fraud at multiple levels. What kind of fraud and who were the main culprits?
Zimmer: The Federal Reserve & Treasury Department talked about “systemic risk” but they didn’t identify systemic fraud, which included:
* Credit Rating Agencies rated bonds, which were really “BBB” quality or unrateable, and transformed them to “AAA” with highest rating.
* Investment banks, which provided funds for subprime loans that were bought and bundled into mortgage-backed securities, and they marketed “junk quality” bonds as triple A bonds globally.
* Subprime lenders, who targeted first-time home buyers, especially minorities, with Option Arm loans and strapped them with loans they had little to no chance of ever being capable of repaying.
* Real estate agents, some of whom earned outrageous fees for directing “naïve” borrowers to lenders who pushed loans with higher interest rates, points and fees.
* Appraisers, who were pressured by loan brokers and lenders to pump up appraisals to hit inflated and unrealistic values in order to secure financing.
* Buyers, who falsified income and assets to procure their home loans.
Us: What set the stage for this crisis? How far back do the roots of the economic meltdown go?
Zimmer: The federal government set the stage for the financial meltdown by attempting to increase home ownership, especially among minorities starting with initiatives and legislation passed in the early 1990’s.
The government encouraged lenders to develop more creative, alternative mortgages, and adhered to a laissez-faire philosophy of regulating financial markets. Also, changes in tax laws exempting from capital gains taxes the first $500,000 in gains from any home sale enticed people to purchase multiple homes.
And lastly, mortgage rates have been at decades lows due to the Federal Reserve’s decisions after the 9/11 attack, and China’s willingness to purchase U.S. government securities ($1 Trillion) at relatively low interest rates.
In early 2004, investment banks began increasing the number of subprime mortgage loans underlying many collateralized debt obligations (C.D.O.). These loans formed too large a part of the packaged debt, thereby increasing the risk to unacceptable levels. From 2006-2007, Wall Street sold $1.2 Trillion of these higher yielding C.D.O.s to investors around the world. With the inevitable cyclical downturn in the U.S. housing market, it was a disaster waiting to happen.
Us: Were those who approved the changes that set the stage for the crisis ignorant or complicit?
Zimmer: The federal government and Wall Street hire some of the most intelligent and best educated people on the planet. It would be hard to use the word ignorant in describing their decisions to approve changes that set the stage for the financial crisis. One can only speculate on their intentions and motivations.
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As for Wall Street, it has inordinate clout with deep pockets and ties to the government. In recent years, numerous high-level positions have been filled with former executives such as Robert Rubin, Henry Paulson and Lawrence Summers.
With everything that has been uncovered about Wall Street’s machinations, does anyone really trust these guys?
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Us: What articles do you suggest readers look at to get a better understanding of what happened?
Zimmer:
* “The Reckoning,” The New York Times, Oct. 2 – Dec. 28, 2008, a series of 18 articles on the financial crisis.
* “Holding On for Dear Life – The Economy & You: A Special Report,” Time, March 9, 2009.
* “The Big Takeover,” by Matt Taibbi, Rolling Stone, April 2, 2009, pages 66-73 and pages 94-97.
but one doesn’t need to speculate too long, does one?
In the article below, I read that San Diego County lost 15,400 jobs last month, while overall California state job losses totaled 35,800.
Conclusion: a disproportionate share of California state job losses last month were San Diego jobs:
(15,400/35,800)*100 = 43 percent of all California jobs lost last month were in San Diego County.
By contrast, the County’s share of California’s overall population is only
(3,001,072/36,756,666)*100 = 8.1 percent.
S.D. County jobless rate up slightly
But state’s figure is highest in modern record-keeping
By Dean Calbreath
Union-Tribune Staff Writer
2:00 a.m. August 22, 2009
San Diego County’s unemployment rate was above 10 percent in July for the second straight month, and there were few hints of a pickup in hiring anytime soon.
The state Employment Development Department reported yesterday that the county lost 15,400 jobs last month, largely because of seasonal fluctuations as schools close for the summer. Employment was down by 55,100 jobs from a year earlier.
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After taking into account seasonal fluctuations — including temporary, summer-related layoffs at schools — the state’s job losses totaled 35,800, pushing the jobless rate from 11.6 percent to 11.9 percent, the highest in modern record-keeping.
San Diego’s jobless rate, which is not seasonally adjusted, moved from 10.2 percent in June to 10.3 percent in July. On the same unadjusted basis, California’s jobless rate rose to 12.1 percent. Stephen Levy, director of the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy in Palo Alto, said the bursting of the housing bubble continues to lie at the root of the high unemployment rate.
Over the past three years, construction jobs have declined by 32 percent in California and 30 percent in San Diego County, compared with a 20 percent dip nationally.
With the local construction work force pared to 134,000 workers, it is now at the same level it was in fall 2000, before the housing market soared into one of history’s biggest bubbles.
The bursting of the real estate bubble also triggered a larger-than-average drop in retail jobs as demand slowed for furniture, home improvement supplies and other big-ticket items.
Retail jobs have dropped about 10 percent from their most recent seasonally adjusted peak in San Diego County and 9 percent in California, compared with a 4 percent drop nationally, as cash-strapped mortgage payers cut back on purchases.
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“A significant amount of money has come into San Diego for construction at the Navy bases, so it seems that jobs are being created in anticipation of contracts being awarded,” Baxamusa said, adding that federal programs for energy-efficiency refurbishments also seem to be creating jobs.
In the private sector, however, there are few job openings. Of the nation’s 50 largest metropolitan markets, San Diego ranks 31st for employment possibilities, according to a job market competition index by indeed dot com, an employment service that collates Internet job listings for its report.
According to the index, there is only one job posting for every five unemployed workers.
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