September 15, 2009

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 04:59:13

Plunge Protection Team victorious in efforts to protect housing prices from plunging:

The Wall Street Journal
SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
No Easy Exit for Government as Housing Market’s Savior

By JON HILSENRATH and DEBORAH SOLOMON

In a speech on Wall Street a year after Lehman Brothers collapsed, President Barack Obama said Monday the need for the government to keep stabilizing the financial system “is waning.” His administration released a 51-page report detailing rescue programs that are slowly being scaled back. But the Treasury Department, author of the report, noted that housing is one area where it’s too early to exit.

Over the past year, the government has intervened heavily at essentially every stage of the home-buying process. In fact, more than 80% of the new residential mortgage loans made this year benefited from some form of government support, according to the trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance.

To keep funds flowing to the housing market, the government bailed out Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac last year and now effectively owns the mortgage finance giants and their combined $5.4 trillion in loan portfolios. To keep mortgage rates low, the Federal Reserve is on track to purchase nearly $1.5 trillion in debt issued or guaranteed by the government’s various mortgage arms and another $300 billion in Treasurys, which set the benchmark for home lending.

And to boost sales, the government also is offering $8,000 tax credits to first-time home buyers.

Those efforts appear to have had the intended effect of braking the housing market’s plunge.

Comment by VaBeyatch in Virginia Beach
2009-09-15 07:05:01

I was thinking about this. Since the banks set the price of homes by giving out loans, I guess the banks (and govt) will keep giving the bottom run of people large loans, and they will keep the mediocre to bleh housing at a price around $200K (at least in my area.) Basically, they will max out the 30 year loan to buy *something*, which is that 1200 sqft old worn out house.

 
Comment by eastcoaster
2009-09-15 07:08:11

If the need for gov’t intervention “is waning”, then let’s see what happens if they don’t extend the $8,000 credit or, heaven forbid, increase it.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 07:19:28

Johnny Isakson and bunch of other Pubs were pushing for $15k, including expansion to all buyers, as of a couple of months ago. Not sure where that’s gone though - I don’t see any recent news. My guess is it’ll pop up in the news sometime in November - when the recent pop up starts to fizzle, and the winter blues loom (along with the sunset of the $8k credit).

 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2009-09-15 09:24:08

The wealth transfers (cash for shacks) will be increased.

The Housing Bubble run-up may be over, but I don’t see a return to affordability in many areas for many years, if ever. There’s just too many crooks invest in keeping housing prices too high, and too many sheeple who think that high housing prices are a good thing (while high prices in anything else is bad, of course.)

 
 
Comment by elvismcduf
2009-09-15 18:02:07

… suppposed forclosure moratorium in California on 6-13-09, is over. Trustee sales notices account for most of the revenue, if not most of the newspaper itself here in Temecula.
Why am I not reading anything about this?

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=3&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.creditinfocenter.com%2Fwordpress%2F2009%2F04%2F24%2Fforeclosure-moratorium-lifted-what-next%2F&ei=yDiwSuDnApLOsQOu55C-Cw&usg=AFQjCNGmB4W99mOeD7yRR5T7IOnpmJKTMg

Comment by Leighsong
2009-09-15 21:21:15

In the spirit of contribution (thank you for the link), here in WI prices on SFH shot up this summer!

Yes - up.

You just can’t make this stuff up.

Our Ben Jones has a niche - but fools are abound.

In some twilight zone fog…real estate is local.

It’s special here (insert that special place - gawd knows the memo demons did NOT deliver the notice here), IS NOT special in most places (NY, SF, LA at naseum), for this IS for the most part, a global phenomenom.

Elvis, me thinks this is another fake disguised as an opportunity.

But what the hey do I know?

Best,
Leigh

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:06:31

REAL ESTATE
SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
Behind Lehman’s Big Property Struggle

By CARRICK MOLLENKAMP and LINGLING WEI

A year after Lehman Brothers’ collapse, the firm overseeing its bankruptcy is moving to restructure loans for 900 properties to help salvage a battered $16 billion real-estate portfolio.

The moves — involving commercial real-estate properties ranging from huge apartment holdings to office buildings to a Miami condominium complex — portend the strategies big U.S. banks are likely to undertake as they deal with their own troubled loans and buildings over the next 18 months, specialists say. In some cases, Lehman is generating new loans or even agreeing to buy condominium mortgage loans to keep projects afloat.

Cleaning up this mess hasn’t been easy. As the big securities firm bulked up its real-estate holdings, it ended up financing, for example, at least $2 billion in South Florida real-estate projects.

The Laurel Cove golf-and-residential development in Tennessee, a victim of Lehman’s bankruptcy, has seen development come to a halt.

“It’s not a great time to sell today,” says Bryan Marsal, chief restructuring officer and chief executive officer at Lehman, and head of Alvarez & Marsal, the advisory firm overseeing Lehman’s bankruptcy proceedings. But he adds: “We are not passively waiting for a better market.”

Lehman’s restructuring efforts could provide a template for other banks. U.S. banks and thrifts hold more than $1.2 trillion in commercial mortgages backed by offices, hotels, shopping malls and apartments, according to Deutsche Bank AG. Now, with property values down and credit still scarce, losses for the commercial-property lenders could total $115 billion to $150 billion, according to a Deutsche report.

Comment by james
2009-09-15 09:55:51

Yeah. Right. So, the massivly over built consumption machine is dead but the haircut will only be 10-12%.

Like these “assets” were any less over valued than private home loans.

I expect it will be about 800B in losses transfered to the taxpayer here.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 13:18:18

Victim? Oh please…

 
Comment by packman
2009-09-15 19:43:50

Hmm - one thing doesn’t seem right…

U.S. banks and thrifts hold more than $1.2 trillion in commercial mortgages backed by offices, hotels, shopping malls and apartments, according to Deutsche Bank AG.

However according to Federal Reserve z1 data - as of 2009 q1 there was $2.434 trillion in outstanding commercial mortgage debt in the U.S. Over twice as much.

Hmmm….

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:21:40

Markets which superficially appear to be healing destroy any political pressure for fixing them.

But here is a straightforward approach to reinvigorating the imperative for financial reform:

If the central bankers running the Fed and Treasury pulled the plug on the government’s financially-engineered housing market bottom, there suddenly would be a return of financial crisis conditions which could be used to bolster support for reform similarly to the manner in which a government-engineered panci was used to ram the TARP through Congress last fall.

For Obama, a Chance to Reform the Street Is Fading
Ruth Fremson/The New York Times

From left, Representative Barney Frank; Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg; former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker; Christina D. Romer, the chairwoman of the Council of Economic Advisers; and Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner listened to President Obama’s speech at Federal Hall.

STEPHEN LABATON and JEFF ZELENY
Published: September 14, 2009

President Obama on Monday sternly admonished the financial industry and lawmakers to accept his proposals to reshape financial regulation to protect the nation from a repeat of the excesses that drove Lehman Brothers into bankruptcy and wreaked havoc on the global economy last year.

“We will not go back to the days of reckless behavior and unchecked excess at the heart of this crisis,” President Obama said.

But with the markets slowly healing, Mr. Obama’s plan to revamp financial rules faces a diminishing political imperative. Disenchantment by many Americans with big government, along with growing obstacles from financial industry lobbyists pressing Congress not to do anything drastic, have also helped to stall his proposals.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-09-15 07:17:35

Questions from above articles :

Lehman’s could lose 150 billion from property holdings . Question ,isn’t that a big big big amount of real estate owned ? Something doesn’t smell right here .

Fed Reserve on track to purchase nearly 1.5 trillion in debt issued .
Question…..Is that old money or new money ,is it old debt or new
debt? In other words is that paper from 2000-2007 ,or is it paper from
2007-2009 ?

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 07:29:02

My not-so-educated guess is that it’s a combination of both, though mostly old money.

Much of it is “old money” 2000-2007, in the form of new mortgage debt loaned out by the banks, trickling out into the economy, and manifesting itself as huge price inflation, but concentrated in housing (thus not reflected in published CPI numbers).

However as part of all these new loans, the banks I would think had to build up their reserves as well - so not all the new debt made it out into the general economy as money, much existed on the banks’ balance sheets as reserves. Now that the crash his happening, the reserves have been crashing also. In steps the feds to buy the MBS, allowing the reserves to stay high and preventing much of the old money from being “sucked back in”. When/if the economy really starts recovering, and the risk is reduced, they’ll start to let these reserves out into the system, but in a more general sense and not just housing.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-09-15 09:25:27

A prediction I made many times has come true . The Treasury/Feds is off-loading the bad paper on Freddie and Fannie
and in this way it produces a windfall for the banks . The question should be are they purchasing it at a reduced price ,or at the loan value ?

As far as I could tell ,this was the game plan all along . Maybe I’m wrong ,but it sure looks like this is what is going on . It goes back to the good bank/bad bank Paulson theory that solution lie in the
government buying the toxic asset of banks and investment firms ,(wouldn’t we all love someone doing that for us )
They argued what price should be paid for this junk . I have never accepted the fact that a 300 billion tarp money bail out was enough . Don’t see that there is much discussion on what exactly the government is buying (and from who ) and for me this is a under the radar bail-out .
Also ,saw on a HOME show that they were allowing the seller to pay for the down payment . This is no different than minus any down payment ,so we are back to the no skin in the game underwriting along with government tax incentives .

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Comment by Cassandra
2009-09-15 13:51:03

I’ve been hearing a radio ad lately that says “you can buy a $300,000 home for only $1,500 down (yes, no typo, fifteen hundred). I suppose this is what? 3.5% down FHA less $8,000? I know the math doesn’t quite work…

 
 
Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 09:59:17

“old money” 2000-2007

So this is a new kind of old money, huh? As opposed to the old kind of old money that inherited the summer place on Cape Cod and grandma’s platinum, diamond and ruby brooch.

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-09-15 10:18:09

hip,,,,,,,,,,old money is a loan that is already on the books,
verses a brand new loan made . But they could of taken a lot of old loans and refinanced them or modified them ,I don’t know .

 
Comment by Michael Viking
2009-09-15 10:33:41

Here’s an idea: take all the old loans and package them up into one giant bundle. Then you can divide the bundle up into pieces such that you have “super high quality” pieces, “high quality pieces”, “average quality pieces” and “low quality pieces”. Then you market those pieces to all the financial jabronis and rubes out there. What was old is now new.

 
Comment by Al
2009-09-15 12:10:47

“Then you can divide the bundle up into pieces such that you have “super high quality” pieces, “high quality pieces”, “average quality pieces” and “low quality pieces”. ”

How about “super duper high quality”, “super high quality” and “high quality”. It’s all AAA.

 
 
 
 
Comment by jfp
2009-09-15 07:38:42

“We will not go back to the days of reckless behavior and unchecked excess at the heart of this crisis,” President Obama said.

This is quote is a keeper. Left to age I predict it will develop a wonderful bouquet of irony.

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 08:13:51

“Think not how you can spend in greed, but how you can spend for the good of the corrupt Nation.”

Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 13:22:43

Ask not what your banker can do for you, but what you can do for your banker.

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Comment by Seattle Renter
2009-09-15 14:40:40

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….(deep breath)…ahh hahahahahahahaha!

Comedy gold right there.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 15:04:20

Thank you, I’ll be here all week. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

 
 
 
Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 08:25:22

I find it interesting (well, not really “interesting,” more like “offensive”) that this these greedy bankers, builders and buyers didn’t bother to follow their own maxims:

1. There is no free lunch.
15% apprec., Heloc cash, $220/ sq ft..

2. If it’s too good to be true, it probably is.
My house is worth what? Can I flip this house? Is ascending the Property Ladder this Easy? Everyone should be a House Hunter! etc.

3. Don’t be pennywise and pound foolish.
27 years of full amort? Hmm, maybe you’re right, those FB’s probably can’t…Hey look! Bonuses! Upfront fees! 14% return forever! Ooh, shiny…

 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2009-09-15 09:35:24

This quote also implies that we’ve LEFT those days of excess and greed… well, many folks have been forced to leave those days behind, but the crooks who ran this ship aground are still living it up.

Chains we can believe in!

Comment by Wee Willy
2009-09-15 15:06:06

There was a hilarious skit on SNL (Saturday Night Live) last Saturday. An actor was portraying Tim Geithner. He explained the Stress Test for banks. Actually it was a multiple choice type of test. IIRC Question 30 was.

Question 30. Your bank no longer has sufficient reserves to cover all outstanding loans. You should;
a. Buy a new Gulfstream
b. Double bonuses
c. Move to the Cayman Islands
d. Ask for a government bailout
e. All of the above

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2009-09-15 16:18:32

“Disenchantment by many Americans with big government, along with growing obstacles from financial industry lobbyists pressing Congress not to do anything drastic, have also helped to stall his proposals.”

Let’s see, American’s don’t want to reform the financial system so it won’t require further bailouts because we are tired of big government interventions like the prior bailouts?

 
 
Comment by Mugsy
2009-09-15 05:22:38

Kalimera from the far eastern Med ya’ll!

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:50:02

Nice…

 
Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 08:16:27

ένα εισιτήριο στην Αθήνα παρακαλώ

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 08:25:09

I completely disagree! That will never happen.

Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 10:40:14

All I did was ask for a ticket to Athens… I think.

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Comment by mugsy
2009-09-15 11:21:07

You know what’s scary? I was able to read that due to Rosetta Stone. I guess I got my money’s worth.

 
 
 
Comment by mugsy
2009-09-15 11:19:47

I don’t have a ticket for Athens X-Philly. I have a few Cypriot parking tickets though……

Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 12:53:47

Kalispera!

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Comment by blackwater
2009-09-15 05:23:49

I apologize for the off topic.

But I need some advice. I am mostly cash after I sold my home last year and renting now.
I missed the current market rally and think a correction is coming soon. The only thing I have done was to buy some gold and silver coins last year. Don’t regret the decision but I don’t see massive inflation hitting anytime soon.

What should I do? Sometimes I worry putting all eggs in one basket, ie. being all cash. My situation is I am in early thirties single male.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:53:25

“I missed the current market rally and think a correction is coming soon.”

Don’t you notice how nearly every time the current news suggests a correction might be imminent (like, say, yesterday for example), the market magically buoys up to a higher level by the end of the day?

If so, then why are you so sure a correction is coming?

Comment by blackwater
2009-09-15 08:56:46

Good points.

There’s no rationality to how markets function.

I can hope, though.

 
 
Comment by Yensoy
2009-09-15 05:53:32

What should you do? Tell us where you live of course, and where your precious is hidden :). Seriously I would just sit tight.

Comment by NJRenter
2009-09-15 07:42:35

I agree sitting tight is probably the right approach right now. For me, I simply refuse to participate in a market that doesn’t trade on economic fundamentals, and instead on irrationality and manipulation.

Comment by Stpn2me
2009-09-15 08:01:33

Me too. I am sitting on gold and platinum bullion. If I cant see it, I dont buy it anymore. Stocks have burned me too much. Maybe later on, buy not now…

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Comment by skroodle
2009-09-15 10:30:26

Have you thought about investing in weather futures?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/wayoflife/09/14/mf.get.rich.off.weather/index.html

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Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 08:26:55

I also agree with the “sit tight” plan. I’ll believe the economy is getting better when I see some serious improvement in the interest rates on our money market accounts and in the fundamentals.

FWIW it looks like the bond markets are still pricing in a correction.

 
 
Comment by Ol'Bubba
2009-09-15 06:00:54

I also spend a lot of time scratching my head over the asset allocation question.

One of my concerns is the dollar. The conventional wisdom (there’s an oxymoron :) ) is that the US$ is in a secular bear period, yet for now it’s a safe haven and gets a bounce upward when things get crazy.

Long term, with all the deficit spending and negative current account balances, the dollar doesn’t look so promising. With respect to foreign currencies my perception is that the political risk is overlooked especially in China, Russia, and the Euro regions.

Does anyone believe the euro currency unit will still be here in 25 years? In 10 Years? In 5 years? I think you get my point.

So for the asset classes, we have equities (domestic, foreign, large, medium, and small cap),
fixed income (too many varieties to list),
commodities and materials (including energy),
precious metals,
real estate (sfr, income properties, REITs, etc.),
and I’m sure I’ve overlooked some other asset classes.

Next we have to take a look at all of these asset classes in the context of inflation/deflation (if and when, etc.), global and domestic economic growth, deleveraging as we work our way out of the credit bubble, and the political environment (global and domestic).

Gee whiz… I’m gonna have to put on another pot of coffee…

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:15:09

“Long term, with all the deficit spending and negative current account balances, the dollar doesn’t look so promising.”

Did you notice the dollar is off by 44 pct or so against the Euro since 2000? How long is your term?

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:20:07

PB - do you have a good link to long-term historical currency rates? (free preferably)

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Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:27:24

Never mind - I got lazy. After googling some, I see the Fed actually has some good data.

(One thing the Fed Res seems to be good for is keeping historical data!)

 
 
Comment by james
2009-09-15 09:42:42

I have no idea why the euro is considered sound and the dollar isn’t. If anything the Euro is the most likely to end up as toilet paper in the next decade.

Also talking with the better half. She doesn’t follow the markets and isn’t really interested.

Basically said, “What are you expecting to happen? They didn’t let the banks fail before and they won’t do it now.” Anyhow, I suspect she is correct.

The current regime will just keep papering over mistakes till failure occurs. Taxpayers, poor and the middle class will get hurt the most. Just expect it to keep comming. The suck will continue for everyone outside the top 2-3%.

With rates at the low level they are at now, they can run up a lot more debt this way. It can go on for a long time.

So. From a trying to get out of this with my buttocks intact viewpoint, what do you suggest we do?

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Comment by WT Economist
2009-09-15 06:18:47

I agree. Given the situation of the U.S., you need to get your money out of the dollar. The problem there isn’t really anywhere I feel comfortable getting it into, either, including gold.

The U.S. should be best off in the world, were it not for our greedy tendencies. We have the best combination of demography — not really aging or exploding, but balanced — education, institutions, etc. But Generation Greed is screwing it all up.

Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 13:27:56

You might want to check the avg age of Wall St. exec before you start hollering “Generation Greed.”

If, however you mean it as a description of this era, then I think it’s an apt description.

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Comment by WT Economist
2009-09-15 06:01:00

Same situation, except that we’re 30% stock in retirement accounts (20+ years from retirement).

I don’t have a better idea. Bonds are really risky given rates are rock bottom, inflation might return and there are still to many borrowers relative to savers. Real estate still has more downside, for those not buying indvidual properties in distressed situations for next to nothing, which is to say any individual investor who isn’t really wealthy.

I think the idea is to buy assets AFTER the losses are taken, but everyone is holding those assets and hoping for a sucker to take them off the hook. So I’m sitting at 0%, and hoping the federal government doesn’t go broke.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:19:13

“…AFTER the losses are taken…”

The tricky part is to know when losses have ended, once they have begun. People tend to think about market crashes as beginning and ending in a day, but the ones we have witnessed over the past decade have in many instances lasted for months, with multiple legs down. I personally bought some stocks in early 2008, before the full-blown panic and meltdown on Wall Street, and lost money along with everyone else who was foolish enough to be in the market at peak panic time.

 
 
Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:16:45

I’m really big into diversification. Even as mostly a “sky is falling” kind of guy - I’d say put at least *some* into stocks and bonds. CD’s are good.

As you’ve seen - the market defies logic. I’ve learned that you can’t argue with a crazy man, and you can’t fight a crazy market.

As long as your out of debt, then you’re ahead of 95% of U.S. citizens. If not - then that’s your first step.

Comment by Al
2009-09-15 06:57:12

“Even as mostly a “sky is falling” kind of guy - I’d say put at least *some* into stocks and bonds.”

I’m in the same “the sky is falling” boat, but it’s not entirely helpful because the sky can fall many different ways. Stagnation, inflation/deflation, civil unrest, alien invasion, whatever. Diversification is the only real tool, and by diversifying you’re accepting taking losses on some assets; hopefully less than gains on others.

 
Comment by rms
2009-09-15 07:42:59

“CD’s are good.”

BofA 6-mo CDs are paying 0.25%; better hurry up!

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 08:26:45

No kidding. You could do better with old Kenny G CDs from a garage sale!

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Comment by measton
2009-09-15 09:28:14

I want to buy a house, inflation, or deflation are going to cause housing prices to fall further. So I feel comfortable in a mix of cash, and treasuries. I have had a big position in TIPS but that’s getting trimmed. I own one stock which is a complete gamble on green tech and a falling dollar and US manufacturing.

I bought an electric car - Great inflation or massive deflation protection, 16k new and goes 40miles on a charge. . I have 5 bikes and parts for the family. I have purchased all the clothes we’ll need for a long time.

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Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 10:16:13

What kind of electric car? I don’t know much about them.

 
Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:26:42

Converted 2008 chevy.
I planned on building one but some guy couldn’t pay for one he had ordered and so they sold it to me for less than I could have purchased the parts.

Deflation

 
 
Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 12:01:51

I posted several months ago that I’d have to buy a two year CD in order to match the rates the money market accounts get. I checked again yesterday and that hasn’t changed.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-09-15 19:41:58

I posted several months ago that I’d have to buy a two year CD in order to match the rates the money market accounts get

I just had a 4% one-year CD mature. Current rate is 1.2%. No thanks. Higher rate in my savings account through the same bank. Go figure.

 
 
Comment by AppleEye
2009-09-15 15:01:26

dollarsavingsdirect.com now at 1.7%

Fully liquid.

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Comment by mrktMaven
2009-09-15 06:59:46

Have you considered Nat Gas? Stay on gold standard. Ever since 71 the wizard’s only solution was to print more money. He is not going to stop now. Steepen the curve. Take from the poor and savers at the expense of speculators. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Comment by Michael Viking
2009-09-15 07:32:36

mrktMaven, is UNG the thing to consider or are you thinking of something else?
Thanks!

 
 
Comment by exeter
2009-09-15 07:03:27

“I don’t see massive inflation hitting anytime soon.”

You’re already on the right track brother.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 07:34:58

The Stockpickers
Sept. 15, 2009, 12:01 a.m. EDT

Defensive linemen

Gabelli & Co. analyst expects stock market to fumble its recovery

U.S. wealth shrinks faster than Europe’s

By Sam Mamudi, MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — The U.S. stock market’s advance this year has emboldened many investors, but some see the rally as a signal to retrench into more defensive companies.

Analysts at Gabelli & Co., an affiliate of GAMCO Investors Inc. (GBL 45.25, -0.50, -1.09%) , take such a view, and their most recent pick of Focus Five stocks reflects that approach.

The Focus Five is Gabelli & Co.’s choice of five stocks for a three-month period, chosen by a rotating seven-member committee made up from the institutional research broker’s staff.

Since the Focus Five started in January 2006 through the end of its latest quarter on July 31, the portfolio is up a cumulative 114%, while the Standard & Poor’s 500 stock-index (SPX 1,049, -0.54, -0.05%) is down 18.6%.

 
Comment by Will
2009-09-15 07:50:06

Sad to see questions like this. At age thirty you should be averaging into the market with most of your savings all the time. NOBODY regularly times the market correctly, no matter what they say.

Comment by james
2009-09-15 09:59:36

Though, like many gamblers, they talk to you about the big wins they had.

I’m not good at this. I remember the big losses too.

Have plenty of relatives that tell me when they won big at the casino. So, I ask them how much they won for the year. Get some icy scilence back from them.

 
Comment by AppleEye
2009-09-15 15:04:37

Nobody gains from dollar cost averaging: analytical, numerical and empirical results

Using graphical analysis, historical stock market returns, and Monte Carlo simulations, this article demonstrates that no such benefit accrues to a Dollar Cost Averaging Strategy. Two alternative strategies, optimal rebalancing and buy and hold achieve better performance in all three analyses.

sciencedirect.com/science/article/B6W4D-45JK782-6/2/bec35bbe850cf520ddbb20d9eb634271

Comment by Will
2009-09-16 01:39:08

Perhaps, but it is the only way to get ongoing savings into the market and while avoiding timing error losses.

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Comment by technovelist
2009-09-15 21:28:13

Sad to see questions like this. At age thirty you should be averaging into the market with most of your savings all the time. NOBODY regularly times the market correctly, no matter what they say.

I don’t time the market at all, but I’m up over 250% in the last ten years with no trading whatsoever.

My theory is that the younger you are, the more your future earning power is worth… in a normal economy. So you should hedge it by buying assets that tend to appreciate the most during bad times. That would normally include Treasurys, but not when they yield so little and the Fed is trying to inflate the dollar into oblivion. That only leaves one asset class, which is left as an exercise for the reader.

 
 
Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 08:18:02

My situation is I am in early thirties single male.

Are you hot?

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 08:31:52

+1 :mrgreen:

Seriously, sit tight at least another 4-6 months. They call autumn “fall” for a reason; it’s what the market does every year. Then buy a little stock in bomb-shelter staples like toilet paper, ammo, contact lens solution….

 
Comment by blackwater
2009-09-15 08:46:18

Oh, yeah.

I have been called a cute little brown bear few times in my life…..

:)

Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 10:42:15

OK then you can store your coins at my house.

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Comment by Al
2009-09-15 12:13:50

Now the HBB is a dating site too? :)

 
Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 12:16:53

Has been for some time. Olygal is like Scarlett O’Hara at a BBQ. Fiddle dee dee.

 
Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 12:55:54

Just funnin’ Al. You would want comic relief too if you had yer nose buried in Oracle all day.

oy

 
Comment by ATE-UP
2009-09-15 17:00:59

Of course HBB is a dating site Al! I have been courtin’ Shorty here for almost a year now! :)

 
 
 
 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 08:22:57

Early thirties single male.. you should be gambling a little.. you’ve got plenty of time to recover from any losses. It’s not easy to think long term when you’re younger but believe me.. you’re gonna turn around and suddenly you’ll be in your 50’s.

Disregard current events. Pay no attention to market movement. Try and think long term.

Get some reasonable amount of money into the stock market.. heavy on equities.. a bit of no-load mutual funds. Diversify somewhat.. get a little piece of everything but you shouldn’t be afraid of risk. No risk, no gain. Youth outweighs a good portion of risk.

Put in as much cash as you can’t foresee needing for about 10 years or more.

Set up an investment schedule where you increase your current holdings by some amount at regular intervals.. no matter the price.. and stick to that schedule. You won’t always buy low, but neither will you always buy high.
Let time work for you. Time is your greatest asset. Don’t waste it. Keep adding money.

Your relatively risky portfolio should be reallocated and get more conservative as you age, since you’ll have less time to recover from disaster when you’re older.

Call Charles Schwab.. their consultants will spend a lot of time with you discussing how to allocate and what is probably best for you.. for free.. no obligation. They will set up a proposed portfolio for you to examine… again for free.
You make all the decisions (unless you wanna pay for a managed account, but i can’t see why you’d need that). Schwab offers lots of low-cost no-cost investment choices. Track your account online.

Comment by skroodle
2009-09-15 10:33:10

Invest in a copy of Malkiel ’s “A Random Walk Down Wall Street”.

Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 12:54:50

i don’t much go for books on investing that claim some strategy applies to everyone. Everyone’s got an opinion.

Go to Barnes and Noble. Park your butt in the “investment” isle. Search for books that explain how all the different parts of the markets operate. Learn about the many various basic investment strategies. Digest all that and make your own decisions about what’s probably best for you.

Ask for advice on blogs but take it with a grain of salt..

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Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 13:37:11

Since you have to ask, the best thing is to sit tight and read the business pages everyday. Bloomberg, Reuters, FT, WSJ, ad nauseum. Until you have a better feel for how the game is played, you will lose money.

Me? I lost it all during the dot com bomb. (I owned the business at least) Still digging out of that hole. Made me pay a LOT closer attention to the markets and economics.

 
Comment by Lesser Fool
2009-09-15 13:44:04

Hmm.

For every after-tax dollar you earn, if you can:

Save and invest 50%.
Live off 30% (food, shelter, clothing, other basic needs).
Splurge with 10%.
Give away 10% to charity.

With the 50% (or whatever your amount comes to):

40% cash.
15% precious metals.
35% dividend-paying foreign stocks.
10% speculation (hard-core gambling of your choice, be it poker, options, shorting, lottery tickets, or ponzi schemes).

For the above, make sure your tax-free and tax-deferred vehicles are funded before shifting to taxable accounts.

When your cash position reaches 6 months salary, reduce the cash contribution to 10% and use the remaining 30% to enhance the weighting in any of the other buckets depending on your personal taste.

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2009-09-15 23:37:16

‘What should I do? Sometimes I worry putting all eggs in one basket, ie. being all cash.’

There will be plenty of time to make money and invest. My rationale is that the market never can be trusted for long. Opportunity to buy on dips later on, that could happen, IMHO. Whatever props this market up and keeps it up will have to show where the beef is sooner or later. Now, if it is inflation being priced in, well……

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:26:52

I would love to hear the explanation behind this “secretive gathering of ships.” The full story begs to be told!

Revealed: The ghost fleet of the recession
By Simon Parry

Last updated at 6:34 PM on 13th September 2009

The biggest and most secretive gathering of ships in maritime history lies at anchor east of Singapore

Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 07:41:21

That was posted yesterday, but it is a very interesting and eye-opening article, for those who missed it.

Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 08:12:21

I sent that link to my father and this is what he had to say:

“Kim, thanks for forwarding this. I remember years ago when I was traveling during the recession of the late 80s and early 90s, I use to fly into Singapore and there were so many ships tied up that the first time I saw it, I thought it was part of the City of Singapore but in fact it was all the lights on the ships. They looked like buildings because they the cargo ships have a bridge structure that is 6-8 stories high because that is how high they stack the cargo containers.

“Singapore has a nature deep harbor which is well protected from storms because it is fairly well enclosed. Singapore has turned it into one of the largest ship building, repair, and maintenance facilities in the world. Labor costs are relatively low and they have a infrastructure that makes it very desirable. Years ago, they use to offer free mooring to any ships that contracted their maintenance and repair work with the port of Singapore. At that time, the statement was made that they had 40% of the worlds excess shipping capacity tied up in the harbor.”

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 10:15:47

Business for bulk carriers has picked up slightly in recent months, largely because of China’s rediscovered appetite for raw materials such as iron ore, says Huxley. But this is a small part of international trade, and the prospects for the container ships remain bleak.

That means nothing for the recession. I suspect China is merely stockpiling in anticipation of the next boom. Smart move too. They will spend a little yuan on storage sure, but in the meantime they will save big on material costs and one-way of the shipping.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 18:44:45

Thanks for that insight, Kim. One question that came to my mind was whether this harboring of so many ships near Singapore had precedent in previous recessions, and it sounds like your dad has first-hand knowledge that it does.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 08:37:16

Sorry about my obsession over this story…I am hoping some evidence comes to light offering explanation of how all those container ships ended up parked in the East Indies.

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 10:25:23

Your obsession is justified. It’s an excellent article, and it’s a piece of true news to anyone outside the industry. (unlike today’s squawk boxes that pass for “news.”)

Some time back we were discussing leading and lagging indicators. I think we have an answer. Shipping operations is a current indicator, especially if it’s based on # of physical widgets.

Shipbuilding is a lagging indicator for the same reason as large housing: both have 2-3 year-long pipelines. “In 2011, they will run out of ships to build.”

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Comment by Will
2009-09-15 11:04:48

Bear,
Several things come together here:

1. World trade and shipping has grown Y^X since the great depression.
2. This is the worlds biggest recession since the great depression.
3. Most of the worlds trade is now with Asia on one end at least, and much is between Asian countries.
4. As Kim points out Singapore is about the world’s best BIG natural anchorage (low fees).

Where else would all the world’s shipping go to park while business is off?

Note they are also close to the shipbreakers in Pakistan, India, and Bangladesh if world trade doesn’t recover.

Still an interesting conjecture that this is the world’s biggest fleet ever. I suppose the next biggest would have been off Normandy on D-Day.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 18:46:00

“Where else would all the world’s shipping go to park while business is off?”

Perhaps some place where there are fewer pirates?

 
 
Comment by packman
2009-09-15 11:17:57
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Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2009-09-15 12:17:16

Clever, Clever, clever

 
Comment by rms
2009-09-15 20:42:16

Greenspan is among the smartest guys in the room. He sacrificed his reputation at the alter of greed, and he will be revered as a supreme champion for transferring the greatest amount of wealth from the middle class to his flock.

 
 
Comment by ahansen
2009-09-15 11:43:05

It’s a great natural harbor in an independent nation where a lot of countries have financial interests— the SEAsian Switzerland if you will.

A lot of 747’s are parked in the Mojave, too. I doubt they are all registered to the USA.

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Comment by ET-Chicago
2009-09-15 08:02:57

Wow, good find.

Talk about price deflation:

… This time last year, an Aframax tanker capable of carrying 80,000 tons of cargo would cost £31,000 a day ($50,000). Now it is about £3,400 ($5,500).

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 18:51:45

Yes, I saw that. I was wondering if that figure bore any relationship to the Baltic Dry Index?

At any rate, for the record, the price of carrying 80,000 tons of cargo a day on an Aframax tanker has fallen by 89%:

(1-5,500/50,000)*100 = 89.

 
 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2009-09-15 08:15:11

Very interesting article.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2009-09-15 08:58:41

Waterworld 2: The Decoupling
(or the lack thereof)

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:31:32

PB, what is it that you find so compelling about this story? I agree, it makes for a few cool pictures. But with now-ancient news about the Baltic Dry Index crashing, as well as the container offload/onload statistics here in the US, it was abundantly clear that the whole industry had geared up for unsustainable bubble-demand.

In other words, those under-utilized ships had to be somewhere, cause they aren’t gonna burn the bunker oil to move them back and forth empty.

I’m sure the shipping companies have done cost studies that indicate that that area is one of the better ones to park them in weather-wise.

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 10:31:58

Baltic Index is some dumb chart based on some dumb math that nobody understands. But those ships man! those are things.

Seeing is believing.

 
Comment by ET-Chicago
2009-09-15 10:49:40

But with now-ancient news about the Baltic Dry Index crashing, as well as the container offload/onload statistics here in the US, it was abundantly clear that the whole industry had geared up for unsustainable bubble-demand.

What Oxide said — seeing the ships really puts some perspective on the dry numbers.

The BDI doesn’t tell us that the costs to charter cargo ships have dropped so precipitously, either. In some cases, the year-over-year adjustment appears to be in the -90% range, per the article. With those YOY numbers in hand, the pictures make a heckuva lot more sense.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:36:52

Santa Claus is worried about the sudden renewed interest in building emergency funds, reducing debt and saving for retirement.

“I’m…Dreaming of a Tight…Christmas
Just like the ones…I used…to know…”

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:30:01

Oh man - I see ventures into unintended territory…

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-09-15 07:07:27

Yeah like the best Xmas present is ME, I am alive and well and can make all of you laugh and dance and party.

Now what better present can i give you?

Got Damm Cheapskate!

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 05:40:50

Sept. 14, 2009, 11:03 p.m. EDT

Steel market poised for losses as China output hits record

By Myra P. Saefong, MarketWatch

TOKYO (MarketWatch) — Coming off this year’s highs, steel-maker shares in Asia are unlikely to revisit their peak levels from 2007 anytime soon, with steel output in China at a record pace and prices for the metal on the decline, analysts said.

China’s monthly steel production hit a fresh high in August at 51.65 million tons, up 21% year on year to represent a record daily production of 1.67 million tons, according to a Morgan Stanley research note Monday.

China’s “steel inventories are now over 11 million tons, similar to the last peak in March 2009 — which suggests industry over-production,” the analysts said.

 
Comment by WT Economist
2009-09-15 05:55:44

WSJ: the federal government is propping up the housing market, and can’t stop or it will tank again. And future generations are going to be on the hook for just about every post-bubble mortgage for years. Looks like my children are catching the knife.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125297162259710323.html#mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection

Also, the Devil’s Dictionary in today’s WSJ is humorous. They should have added a pre-2007 definition of “financial journalism.” “An arm of the public relations industry” might have fit.

 
Comment by palmetto
2009-09-15 06:00:51

Yes, Bill in LA, I have always supported the gold standard. Surprised?

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:02:51

Aren’t we on a gold standard? I thought the price of dollars was denominated in gold?

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 08:02:52

No, today everything is backed by bull$hit alone.

 
 
Comment by mrktMaven
2009-09-15 10:01:59

You don’t have to wait for the government to put yourself on the gold standard. Does anyone think we could have amassed such huge trade imbalances if we were paying foreigners in gold instead of billets? Lucky for us they still believe in wizards and ponies.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2009-09-15 14:36:13

I believe in ponies.

Comment by ATE-UP
2009-09-15 17:03:46

I want a White Pony. A White Pony who can fly. A river of chocolate milk for my White Pony to drink from, and shoot rainbows out his pooter.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:01:47

Has the Fed traditionally propped up the MBS market as needed, or is this time the first?

I personally have serious doubts this MBS purchase program will end any time in the foreseeable future, as the housing market would crash further if taken off government life support.

SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
Fed Likely to Keep Buying Mortgage Instruments

By SUDEEP REDDY

WASHINGTON —

The Federal Reserve, which convenes its policy meeting next week, is likely to stay the course to buy $1.45 trillion in mortgage-linked securities despite potential resistance from a few regional Fed presidents.

Central-bank officials plan to discuss winding down those purchases over the coming months to limit disruption to the market when the buying comes to an end.

Some regional Fed policy makers have suggested the Fed might halt the program before it finishes its purchases of $1.25 trillion in mortgage-backed securities and $200 billion in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debt announced in the past year. But they are a small minority across the Fed system.

Top Fed officials believe such a move would tighten overall monetary policy at a time when they still worry about the durability of the economic recovery. The Fed has completed about two-thirds of its purchases, almost $1 trillion worth, and is likely to complete the rest unless prospects for the economy improve radically in the coming months.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:38:53

IMO by far the biggest untold story (and travesty) of this bubble. TARP gets 20x the attention, but has probably 1/4 the impact of these MBS purchases.

People make a bigger deal of the $300B in Fed treasury purchases contributing to inflation. These $1.45T in MBS purchases have the same inflation effect, times 5, do they not?

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-09-15 07:38:07

Packman …I feel that your so right about these MBS purchases (see my questions above )

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 08:52:55

..do they not? …

Do we see inflation? No..
So, one might conclude that they do not… at least not yet.

The Fed is buying now, but will be selling later. Sometimes it sells now and buys later. That’s how it regulates the money supply. The Fed acts like a buffer.

Sure, there will be losses, but not a 100% loss. The whole of the economy should be expected to suffer from the housing bubble.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 18:54:25

“The whole of the economy should be expected to suffer from the housing bubble.”

There is a banker’s attitude if I ever did see one. ‘We created the crap, and you get to eat it.’

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Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 19:05:43

PB.. you’re obsession with bankers is a bit disturbing. It smacks of a fetish.

Whenever we discuss economics I get the feeling you’ve taken a wrong turn somewhere in your study.. kinda like an athlete that picked up a bad habit and, every time he practices, reinforces that bad habit.. and his growth as an athlete is stunted.

I can’t quite pin down exactly where you’ve been misled, but it’s affecting your entire outlook and makes it impossible for you to be objective about anything related to banks, bankers and banking.

Perhaps I’m alone in the observation that your responses are becoming tiresomely predictable, but I doubt it.

 
Comment by packman
2009-09-15 19:30:50

IMO that’s a dead horse that can’t possibly be beaten enough.

Make it glue, PB.

 
Comment by Big V
2009-09-15 19:33:10

I think PB’s comments are spot on. They are completely in line with the discussion we’ve been having on this blog this entire time. He’s a lot more polite than I am, and he’s good at pointing out mathematical/economic nuances that the rest of us tend to overlook.

I have rarely detected a flaw in his logic, which is an excellent accomplishment on his part since I am, as previously mentioned, a badass.

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 21:30:53

packman.. you disagree?
Are you saying that the whole economy should NOT be expected to suffer for the housing bubble? Which parts will be spared?

Or change history. Tell me how you would have managed the problems created by the bubble, and what part(s) of the economy would then escape the bubble’s collapse.

 
 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2009-09-15 09:05:34

But is it monetizing past inflation or future inflation?

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:17:39

Both.

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Comment by Jon
2009-09-15 12:08:36

Guy buys house for $500K. Gets loan from broker who sells mortgage to Wall St Bank (WSB). Guy walks. WSB sells mortgage to Fed for $500K. WSB gives money to CEO as bonus. CEO buys sweet fishing boat in down market.

My guess was the inflation happened when they guy bought the house for $500K. The fishing boat manufacturer is staying in business now due to CEO bonus. The Fed might get $250K back in a few years, sucking much needed $$$ out of the economy, and putting more housing on the market.

 
 
Comment by VaBeyatch in Virginia Beach
2009-09-15 07:27:17

My head is still spinning from those numbers. Why can’t someone carve me off a little bit of that money. A couple million?!

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:00:29

If you don’t see current inflation you should have your eyes checked. It’s still happening and it’s still in the double digits.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 14:39:56

Care to expound?

- referring to prices, wages, money supply, or other?
- in what asset classes, and by what measure?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 15:08:32

The only things that matter everyday: food, gas, utilities, medicine, insurance, repair services.

Maybe it’s just my part of the world.

To be fair, there has been a recent plateau, but for the year, double digit.

Comment by measton
2009-09-15 15:46:16

deflation in clothes, housing, cars, computers, electronics

Food is flat in my area no double didget inflation. Gas is manipulated, utilities medicine and insurance have you hostage no real competition. Repair services ??? My guess is you can get unemployed repairment to work cheap these days.

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Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 16:09:08

In my part of the world, it’s been double digit. Back to school sales have been the only prices breaks I’ve seen.

As I said, there has been a plateau, but for the year it’s been double digit. i.e. if something goes up 25%, then drops by 10%, it doesn’t mean there isn’t still inflation for the year.

Houses are dropping, but a 17% drop still means they are overpriced and inflated from, say, just 2 years ago. So while it looks like deflation, it’s actually just a slowing of real inflation, which has been 15%+ for years and 33%+ for housing.

The current conditions are also driving many people to bargain shop again for the first time in years and they’ve forgotten that there have always been deals out there if you’re not a brand name snob and patient and do your research. This is often incorrectly perceived as deflation.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:06:48

SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
For France, a Joie de Vivre Index

Sarkozy to Add New Indicators, Such as Well-Being, to Measure Economic Health

By DAVID GAUTHIER-VILLARS

PARIS — Nicolas Sarkozy was elected president two years ago on a pledge to boost France’s economic prosperity. Now he is suggesting a different way to measure that prosperity — one that includes factors such as vacation time, health care and family relationships.

From now on, to gauge the economy’s health, France will consider well-being in addition to the classic measure of gross domestic product, Mr. Sarkozy said Monday in a speech at the Sorbonne, part of the University of Paris.

In the speech presenting the findings of a committee headed by Nobel Prize-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz, the president said new measures are needed in the wake of the financial crisis, which was triggered by an overreliance on free-market principles. “If the market was the solution to all problems and was never wrong, then why are we in such a situation?” asked Mr. Sarkozy. “We need to change criteria.”

The so-called Stiglitz commission has been working at the French president’s behest for 18 months on recommendations for measuring well-being. In its report, the group — which includes 1998 Nobel laureate Amartya Sen among its two dozen members — said tracking household income and consumption would provide a better indication of living standards than GDP. In the longer term, the panel said, governments must pay more attention to sustainability to determine what level of well-being can be maintained for future generations.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2009-09-15 06:44:41

“…In the longer term, the panel said, governments must pay more attention to sustainability to determine what level of well-being can be maintained for future generations…” ;-)

Move aside…there’s gonna be a human stampede headed for: Switzerland, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Zimbabwe…

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 07:10:28

How’d Switzerland get on your list, Hwy? Was that some kind of mistake?

Comment by Skip
2009-09-15 07:32:39

I bet he meant Swaziland.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2009-09-15 10:36:17

Well, I figure Switzerland can “afford” to allow in just a “wee” bit more (.000000127%) of the world’s poor, you know to help out the “Global” economy…although I’ve actually never been there, but rumor has it that they have a very good “level” of well being and it’s “baked in” that they can “sustain” that for many future generations! :-)

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Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:12:38

REAL ESTATE SEPTEMBER 14, 2009, 9:55 A.M. ET
Your House: Just a Home
By M.P. MCQUEEN

It’s time to face facts, if you haven’t already: sometimes your house is just a home.

For most of the last decade, Americans treated their homes as sources of ready cash and as brick-and-mortar retirement plans. Overleveraged at purchase with no down payment, no documentation and negative-amortization mortgages, homeowners also mined equity with home-equity loans and lines of credit.

At the end of the second quarter, about 23% of single-family homes with mortgages were “underwater,” with owners owing more on their homes than they are worth, according to Zillow.com. And analysts for at least one major bank expect that share to rise as the housing market bottoms out in some areas.

Foreclosures and short sales, where homes are sold for less than the debt outstanding on them, comprised 31% of total sales in July, according to the National Association of Realtors, helping depress prices for all. Buyers and sellers are at loggerheads in many markets, as home sellers refuse to accept the reality of lower prices.

Depressed values and tighter credit in turn have reduced everyone’s ability to borrow against their houses for remodeling, refurbishing, college tuition or other purposes. The lockup has caused people to feel poorer, even if they’re employed and don’t need to move. This feeling has, in a reversal of the boom’s wealth effect, curbed consumer spending.

Comment by salinasron
2009-09-15 06:50:43

“Depressed values and tighter credit in turn have reduced everyone’s ability to borrow against their houses for remodeling, refurbishing, college tuition or other purposes. The lockup has caused people to feel poorer, even if they’re employed and don’t need to move.”

Gee, must be something wrong with me. Tighter credit and feeling poorer just not on my radar screen. Then again I deal in realities, numbers and facts and not FEELINGS!!

Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:04:56

Why, that’s just un-Amercian, salinasron! And so negative too! How can we wish, er, think positively with all those negative thoughts around?!

 
 
Comment by Lesser Fool
2009-09-15 15:47:34

Typos fixed.

Foreclosures and short sales, where homes are sold for less than the debt outstanding on them, comprised 31% of total sales in July, according to the National Association of Realtors, helping depress improve prices for all. Buyers and sellers are at loggerheads in many markets, as home sellers refuse to accept the reality of lower prices.

Depressed Better values and tighter credit in turn have reduced everyone’s ability eliminated the temptation for everybody to borrow against their houses for remodeling, refurbishing, college tuition or other purposes , all of which are better funded by savings and extra work as opposed to debt. The lockup has caused people to feel poorer feel richer as they watch their savings grow, even if they’re employed and don’t need to move getting shafted by their employer who is cutting costs in order to show increased profits and raise the company share price so executives can get their big bonuses and Wall St can make money brokering deals. This feeling has, in a reversal of the boom’s bubble’s phantom wealth effect, curbed consumer spending moved us away from rampant consumerism and towards a more careful and meaningful existence.

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 18:35:08

Thanks for the correction, lesser. How could they have let all those typos through?

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 06:26:03
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 06:28:08

35% of Memphis home list prices fall in August
Memphis Business Journal

For the fourth month in a row, the percent of Memphis homes for sale that experienced a price reduction increased as of Sept. 1.

In August, the rate jumped to 35 percent, after percent gains of 32, 30 and 29 in July, June and May, respectively, real estate search firm Trulia Inc. said.

Memphis was one of eight cities to have four consecutive months of listed home value deflations. Memphis was also one of just 14 of the largest 50 cities where the percentage of reduction rates were above the national average.

Nationally, 26 percent of homes currently on the market as of Sept. 1 have experienced at least one price cut, the company said.

From June to September, the total amount cut from home prices increased by more than $1.1 billion to $28.5 billion.

The average discount off the original list price held steady at 10 percent.

“The steady rise in price reductions is a signal that sellers are still trying to adjust to the ever changing market conditions,” Pete Flint, Trulia co-founder and CEO, said in a release. “We expect the $8,000 federal tax incentive to extend the peak home purchasing season beyond the summer months, continuing to drive competition amongst sellers and ultimately leading to more price reductions, giving consumers a great opportunity to find the home of their dreams.”

The 14 cities with reduction rates higher than the national average of 26 percent as of Sept. 1 included:

• Jacksonville, Fla. 37 percent

• Milwaukee, Wis. 36 percent

• Portland, Ore. 35 percent

• Memphis 35 percent

• Baltimore 34 percent

• Indianapolis 34 percent

• Minneapolis 34 percent

• Raleigh, N.C. 34 percent

• Albuquerque, N.M. 33 percent

• Columbus, Ohio 33 percent

• Chicago 33 percent

• Tucson, Ariz. 33 percent

• Boston 33 percent

• Seattle 33 percent

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:37:51

The truly amazing thing to me is that despite all the government-sponsored life support (see posts above), housing prices still face plenty of downward pressure.

Comment by Al
2009-09-15 07:04:04

The easy answer to this:
Government efforts = small
Housing market = big

I made an impressive effort to stop my car from rolling down the driveway when I accidentally left it in neutral, but to no avail. Luckily there was nothing on the road to hit.

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 08:32:53

maybe because you misread their intentions.. and that their true intentions are nothing more than to keep money flowing. House prices are immaterial.

 
 
Comment by mrktMaven
2009-09-15 06:45:50

I’m watching does price cuts live down here in Jax, FL. The sweet spot in the zips I’m looking at is 180K. It’s a mad dash for that number as the clock ticks on the tax credit.

 
Comment by VaBeyatch in Virginia Beach
2009-09-15 07:30:20

Wish Virginia Beach was on that list, but at last too many gov’t jobs around here.

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:37:49

Thank goodness Seattle made the list!

I’ve been feeling the dull leading-edge of despair for sane prices up in Seattle; maybe it really is different here?

I’m still clinging to hope for eventual sanity—after all, the first 20% can’t be the end of it in one of the bubblier markets (by the numbers), can it???

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 10:36:00

Seattle, and Portland too. Hmmmm. Good thing nothing like that could ever happen in Austin.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 06:45:07

Nassim Taleb on the economy
‘We still have the same disease’
The Globe and Mail 9-15-09

Margaret Wente: Happy days are here again. The central bankers say the recession is over. The markets are buoyant. Can we relax?

Nassim Taleb: Not at all. Central bankers have no clue. In the first place, the financial crisis was not a black swan. It was perfectly predictable. They ignored the phenomenal buildup in leverage since 1980. They acted like airline pilots who’d never heard of hurricanes.

After finishing The Black Swan, I realized there was a cancer. The cancer was a huge buildup of risk-taking based on the lack of understanding of reality. The second problem is the hidden risk with new financial products. And the third is the interdependence among financial institutions.

MW: But aren’t those the very problems we’re supposed to be fixing?

MT: They’re all still here. Today we still have the same amount of debt, but it belongs to governments. Normally debt would get destroyed and turn to air. Debt is a mistake between lender and borrower, and both should suffer. But the government is socializing all these losses by transforming them into liabilities for your children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. What is the effect? The doctor has shown up and relieved the patient’s symptoms – and transformed the tumour into a metastatic tumour. We still have the same disease. We still have too much debt, too many big banks, too much state sponsorship of risk-taking. And now we have six million more Americans who are unemployed – a lot more than that if you count hidden unemployment.

MW: Are you saying the U.S. shouldn’t have done all those bailouts? What was the alternative?

NT: Blood , sweat and tears. A lot of the growth of the past few years was fake growth from debt. So swallow the losses, be dignified and move on. Suck it up. I gather you’re not too impressed with the folks in Washington who are handling this crisis.

Ben Bernanke saved nothing! He shouldn’t be allowed in Washington. He’s like a doctor who misses the metastatic tumour and says the patient is doing very well. The first thing I would tell Chinese officials is, how can you buy U.S. bonds as long as Larry Summers is there? He’s a textbook case of overconfidence. Look what happened to Harvard’s finances. They took a lot of risk they didn’t understand, and it was a disaster. That’s the Larry Summers mentality.

MW: You argue that globalization and modern technology have made the world financial system far more fragile than ever before. How?

NT: Globalization and the Web create worldwide mass effects, whether positive or negative. We have planetary fads that cause random variables to have bigger spikes than ever before. Variables that used to move 10 per cent now move 30 per cent. The whole planet can pull its money out on the same day. The Internet is what bankrupted Iceland! You in Canada destroyed things with your BlackBerry.

Comment by Al
2009-09-15 07:45:10

“You in Canada destroyed things with your BlackBerry.”

I smell another South Park movie in the making.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:40:59

That would be lovely. :-)

The thing is, I agree with everything quoted except for the “Blame Canada!!” bit.

 
 
Comment by James
2009-09-15 20:25:28

What I like here is that he note the banking crisis was NOT a black swan. I’ve had to argue that with many.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 06:46:08

Are the Fed and the Treasury Siamese twins?

OPINION
SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
Lehman and the Financial Crisis

The lesson is that institutions that take trading risks must be allowed to fail.

By JOHN H. COCHRANE AND LUIGI ZINGALES
One year ago today Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy. The weeks that followed are among the most dramatic in U.S. history. They led to a massive government intervention in the financial system—an intervention that will likely change that system forever.

Many people say that letting Lehman fail was the mistake that caused the financial crisis. To them, the lesson is that the government should never allow any “systemically important” financial institution to fail. If only Lehman had been bailed out, the story goes, we could have avoided much of a 45% drop in the S&P 500, a 4% drop in output, the rise in unemployment to 9.7% from 6.2%, and the $784 billion “stimulus” to top off a $1.59 trillion deficit.

This story is false.

The Lehman failure was not an isolated event. It was a movement in a dramatic crescendo of failures.

the main risk indicators only took off after Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke’s TARP speeches to Congress on Sept. 23 and 24—not after the Lehman failure.

Why? In effect, these speeches amounted to “The financial system is about to collapse. We can’t tell you why. We need $700 billion. We can’t tell you what we’re going to do with it.” That’s a pretty good way to start a financial crisis.

Subsequent reporting explained why they did it: The Fed and Treasury had felt for months that they needed legal authority to do more bailouts, and a crisis might get Congress to vote for it.

Comment by joeyinCalif
2009-09-15 08:42:11

So Paulson and Bernanke engineered the financial crisis.. Well, it’s hard to argue with an opinion, but that one sounds more than a little foolish.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:46:47

When Paulson went up the Hill, I did find myself wondering why he would be reckless enough to pull a bazooka out of his pocket in front of Congress. There _was_ a significant risk of panicking the populace by saying such inflammatory things.

I’m not arguing that they would not have panicked if he had not done so. But it did strike me as extremely reckless.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 10:20:47

Paulson basically did the economic equivalent of standing at the front of the theater, turning to the audience, and yelling “DON’T WORRY FOLKS - THERE IS NO FIRE. BUT IF THERE WAS, IT WOULD JUST BE A SMALL ONE, AND WE’VE GOT IT UNDER CONTROL.

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Comment by Eddie
2009-09-15 10:46:14

No no no silly. It was Booooosh that engineered it.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 19:00:19

“…engineered the financial crisis…”

I long ago lost count of how many straw man mischaracterizations of the financial crisis you have delivered here. The point is not that BB and HP engineered the crisis — it was already well underway in early 2007, so unless they are time travelers, they could not have created it in Fall 2008.

What they did, as mentioned in Professor Cochrane’s Op-ed, was to kick it into overdrive in order to bolster support for TARP.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:31:45

“Are the Fed and the Treasury Siamese twins?”

Is this a trick question? :lol:

 
Comment by yensoy
2009-09-15 22:00:01

No they are not.

The Fed, Treasury and China are Siamese triplets.

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 22:58:23

thanks, yensoy

nice to get that outside perspective :-)

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 06:53:05

Pension Plan Shocker Dead Ahead!
by Nilus Mattive

I’ve talked about corporate pension plans before, but in a few short weeks I think we’re going to get some shocking news. Namely, that the government backup for failed pension plans is more underfunded than it has ever been before.

Back in April, I told you a bit about the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation and its decade of running in the red.

But just to recap: The PBGC is there for workers when their companies break retirement promises, and yet ironically, the PBGC itself has been underfunded every year since 2002!

To its credit, the organization was doing a decent job of getting back toward the black lately. It cut its deficit slightly in 2005, then made major strides in 2006 … 2007 … and 2008.

Now that streak looks ready to end — in a BIG way — when the PBGC reports its full-year financial results at the end of this month.

I’m basing that on what the group’s acting director Vince Snowbarger told a Senate Special Committee on Aging back in May. At that point, he said the PBGC was running a $33.5 billion deficit in 2009.

As Snowbarger stated in his written testimony:

“The increase in the PBGC’s deficit is driven primarily by a drop in interest rates and by plan terminations, not by investment losses. The PBGC has sufficient funds to meet its benefit obligations for many years because benefits are paid monthly over the lifetimes of beneficiaries, not as lump sums. Nevertheless, over the long term, the deficit must be addressed.”

PBGC Acting Director Vince Snowbarger and former director, Charles Millard, testify before the Senate.
I’m willing to bet that the PBGC’s official release at the end of this month is going to show a rather dire situation, possibly worse than the mid-year deficit.

And the most important part of Snowbarger’s statement is that this deficit WILL need to be addressed.

That raises a few important questions …

First, Where Does the PBGC Get Its Funding?

The PBGC is a federal corporation created under the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974. That basically means it’s a quasi-governmental agency, much like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were. (Yes, feel free to either shudder or snicker at this point.)

Essentially, the PBGC builds up a kitty by collecting premiums from working pension plans, and then uses that money to dole out benefits when companies go bankrupt or otherwise abandon their plans.

The PBGC currently guarantees basic pension benefits for about 44 million U.S. workers and retirees taking part in nearly 30,000 defined benefit pension plans.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 06:57:52

Essentially, the PBGC builds up a kitty by collecting premiums from working pension plans, and then uses that money to dole out benefits when companies go bankrupt or otherwise abandon their plans.

I’m curious about the “or otherwise” part. Am I correct in saying that this means that companies can reneg on their pension obligations even without declaring bankruptcy?

Comment by Skip
2009-09-15 07:35:58

That is not true. Also, even if a company declares bankruptcy, if the PBGC later finds that the company is on a solid financial footing, it can “give back” the pension.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 07:59:42

Can you explain what is meant by “or otherwise abandon their plans” then? I would think that if a company abandons its plan, it would just stop contributing to it, but still still continue to pay its benefits obligations (to the past employees, and existing employees later after they retire) from the stored pension assets, and that the only way they could legally not pay those obligations is to declare bankruptcy.

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Comment by Skip
2009-09-15 13:13:03

You can try to negotiate away your obligations. I think that is what GM did prior to bankruptcy.

They negotiated with the UAW and created some sort of separate entity and funded it a nest egg of money. In exchange, I think future UAW workers will get nothing.

 
 
 
Comment by salinasron
2009-09-15 08:10:27

“I’m curious about the “or otherwise” part. Am I correct in saying that this means that companies can reneg on their pension obligations even without declaring bankruptcy?”

My understanding is that you have to have been retired for over 5 yrs or your pension is in jeopardy and can be reduced as there is a maximum payout under the plan. That’s what happened when some airlines went BK. I don’t think it protects those who are years short of retirement.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 08:44:20

“Am I correct in saying that this means that companies can reneg on their pension obligations even without declaring bankruptcy?”

Companies cannot summarily cancel their pension obligations. However, unless the rules have changed since the last time I paid close attention, they can terminate a plan if they choose to do so, and pay off the plan participants’ ‘accumulated benefit obligations’ calculated on a termination basis. This can leave salaried employees short, as they have no protection against the risk that termination benefits (based on their current pay scale) will suffice to cover inflation between the plan termination date and the date the employee would have otherwise retired.

Comment by skroodle
2009-09-15 10:40:10

IBM did that a few years ago.

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Comment by In Montana
2009-09-15 13:58:39

what? do they just have 401k now?

 
Comment by In Montana
2009-09-15 14:01:21

NM. I googled.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 19:04:00

Terminating a final pay plan and replacing it with 401(K) is a standard way to screw your salaried employees nearing retirement of several years worth of peak accrual, and also shift the risk of investment loss from the company to the employee. Larger bonuses for CEOs will be a likely consequence.

 
 
 
 
Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:44:22

It will be interesting if they bail out banks but let pension plans robbed by the banks fail. My guess is the MSM will have to be very crafty to prevent riots.

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2009-09-15 07:05:59

Filed under: Get a “reverse mortgage” and Buy Gold! Buy Gold! Buy Gold! :-)

Prices rose 38 percent from the end of 2003 through mid- 2008, buoyed by growing U.S. household wealth, which peaked at $64.3 trillion in the third quarter of 2007. Rough stones rose 81 percent over the same period, said Platt. About half of the world’s polished diamonds are sold in the U.S., according to De Beers.

“It is possible to pull too many diamonds out of the ground and cut and polish too many of them and try to cram them down the gullets of the American customer,” Ellis said. “It’s like making foie gras. You wind up with a very unhappy goose.”

“Do you realize how many retirees are on South Beach walking around with $700,000 on their fingers?” Grossbard said he asked the dealer.

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (fpss™)

Diamonds Post-Lehman Have No Aura as Buffett Can’t See Recovery:
By Alan Katz, Subramaniam Sharma and Peter Robison Sept. 15 (Bloomberg)

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 07:33:24

Problem with diamonds is that they really are mostly just a luxury item, and of course luxury does poorly in a depression.

Theoretically they can be used as currency, but only by a select few that are experts in valuing them.

Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 08:33:05

I thought someone came up with a process to create diamonds that were practically indistinguishable from the real thing, even under a jewelers loop. Whatever became of that?

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-09-15 09:56:47

There are two processes that seem to work pretty well: one high-temp/high-pressure, and one that is similar to the vacuum gas-deposition used to grow silicon for wafers used in semiconductor production.

And even experts cannot tell the difference with a jewelers loupe.

But de Beers spent a LOT of money developing a machine that can distinguish between the natural and artificial stones, and seeding the market with those machines.

Ironically, the reason the machine can tell the difference is because the artificial stones are a little TOO good—the relative uniformity and lack of defects in the chemical structure.

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Comment by samk
2009-09-15 10:52:49

If you do a google search for synthetic diamonds the sixth or seventh link goes to a Wired magazine article about the industry.

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Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 12:36:07

When one of the tiny stores in my local mall went belly up, it was replaced by a gold-buying store. They don’t sell gold, just buy. And they have a very prominant sign saying that they don’t carry any money on premises. I guess they just deposit into your checking account.

 
 
Comment by Skip
2009-09-15 07:42:03

I guess the party is over in Malibu:

Wells Fargo Fires Exec Who Partied In A Foreclosed Malibu Pad
http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/hotproperty/archives/2009/09/wells_fires_exe.html

Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 08:32:58

Sounds like Cheronda was not very bright. What, she didn’t think parties at a foreclosed home would draw attention? The neighbors knew the couple that got the boot and also knew it hadn’t sold. Oh well, they got to thrown down on the beach a few times, and play rich.

Comment by DennisN
2009-09-15 08:54:04

I still hope they 1099 her since the place was offered for a monthly lease of $60K.

Comment by Cassandra
2009-09-15 09:15:57

lol. I actually did this once. I was asked to come in and clean up a private school that had been ravaged by embezzlement. When we finally figured out that the money had been stolen by the previous business manager I 1099′d him for a bit over $100,000.

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Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:47:35

I just like the fact that they hadn’t put the house on the market. Shadow inventory

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 07:49:08

Capital One Financial Corp.’s domestic net default charge-offs dropped in August while credit card delinquencies rose in the U.S.

McLean-based Capital One (NYSE: COF) is the third biggest issuer of Visa cards in the country.

The company, in a regulatory filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission, said charge-offs in the U.S. fell to 9.32 percent from July’s 9.83 percent. Internationally they fell to 8.6 percent in August from 9.76 percent in July.

Capital One’s 30-day credit card delinquencies rose in August to 5.09 percent from 4.83 percent in July, while auto deals were flat at 9.42 percent and international delinquencies eased to 6.67 percent from 6.68 percent. The auto-finance area remains troubled with charge-offs rising to 4.31 percent from 4.26 percent.

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 08:11:06

Is a charge-off percentage a percentage of accounts (customers), or a percentatge of the loaned amount total (sum in dollars)? It seems to me if 9.something percent of all accounts were in default then the banks making the loans should be insolvent based soley on that. Consider that every delinquent account is probably maxed-out and a large percentage of the accounts in good standing have a zero balance or are never even used. That would make the dollar amount of the ‘bad” accounts disprapportionately (sp?) higher as a percentage of money the bank has loaned out. Does anyone follow this?…

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 07:52:04

Rx for money woes: Doctors quit medicine
Some physicians, fed up with the costs of their practice, are ready to hang up their stethoscopes and shift careers.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Some 5,000 patients suddenly found themselves without an ob/gyn last November when Dr. Tara Wah closed her practice in Tallahassee, Fla.

Wah, 55, informed her patients in a letter that she could “no longer afford to make ends meet.”

After 24 years, “I’m working longer hours than ever,” she wrote. “Insurance payments for patient care have stayed virtually the same for the last 15 years, while the cost of doing business, including health insurance, staff salaries and supplies have risen.”

The rising cost of malpractice insurance, particularly for her specialty, was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

“My malpractice insurance was $125,000 a year, and going up,” said Wah. “The only way to get the extra money was to cut back on my salary.”

But it wasn’t always like that. Being a doctor was once thought to be a path to a cushy lifestyle. Six years after she started practicing, Wah hit her “peak” income year in 1990. Then she took a pay cut every year from 1993 onward, to eventually take no salary for two months prior to permanently shutting her office.
Wasted skills

Wah no longer practices medicine. Instead, she designs and repairs jewelry. “I feel guilty. I dream about [medicine],” she said. “[But] I am so angry. I think, ‘What a waste of my training.’ ”

Wah’s situation sheds light on a troubling trend of physicians leaving medicine for a career outside of health care, said Kurt Mosley, a staffing expert with Merritt Hawkins & Associates, a physician search and consulting firm.

Comment by In Montana
2009-09-15 08:47:25

5,000 patients - ? Holy sh!t! My internist sent out 1000 letters when she quit her practice to become a hospitalist. I thought that was a lot of patients..

Comment by skroodle
2009-09-15 10:46:50

According to her metric, we would only need 60k doctors in the United States.

 
Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:50:57

Most of her patients are delivery or yearly pap. Many of the delivery get their yearly pap from their primary. There are far more primary care MD’s than OB/GYN for that reason.

 
Comment by evildoc
2009-09-15 12:39:18

Yah, there is something odd.

I am a Hospitalist- Internal Medicine as are most but not all (there are GYN, Surg, etc Hospitalists too).

No Malpractice payment. Salary better than I would earn in office practice. Fixed (if long) hours.

Huge demand. Four spots nationally now for each qualified IM Hospitalist.

I *can* understand a given practice having trouble, but there are SO MANY options in Medicine shy of opening a trinket jewelry business.

regards

evildoc

Comment by In Montana
2009-09-15 14:03:37

Yes I certainly understand it. My doc was tired of the insurance cos. too. Sure miss her though.

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Comment by Cassandra
2009-09-15 09:10:55

This doesn’t surprise me. I had many minor surgeries in the last two years. My surgical bills ranged from $2500 to $5000 each. The surgeon that did the actual cutting got about $600 a pop. Let me repeat. The chick with the knife only got $600!

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 10:05:17

The chick with the knife only got $600!

That really needs to make into an Obama speech somewhere. I’m tired of mealy-mouth high-syllable vocbulary like “health security” and “rising premiums” and “deficit neutral reconciliation” and “votes agianst their own self-interest.” Most of the common people just shut off when they have to wade through it.

The chick with the knife. George Carlin would approve.

 
Comment by TPS_Reports
2009-09-15 11:32:52

If 10 surgeries a day, 2 weeks vacation, $600*10*5*50=$1.5 million a year. OMG, Only $600.

Comment by peter a
2009-09-15 13:14:29

“If 10 surgeries a day, 2 weeks vacation, $600*10*5*50=$1.5 million a year. OMG, Only $600″.

TPS_Reports you are a mute donkey. You really think is that easy. I do not know any surgeon the would perform 10 “minor surgeries”. The risk to F something up is to great. At the most a surgeon 3-4 procedures in a day not 10. Go take some med courses, and learn something about medicine.

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Comment by TPS_Reports
2009-09-15 19:13:59

OK 4 surgeries $600K. You win, she will starve.

 
 
Comment by Cassandra
2009-09-15 13:35:47

Probably more like 10/week, but that’s not the point. Where’d the other $2000 go? I don’t mind paying professional wages for professional services. I do have a problem with the overhead. Besides I’m sure she’s buried under 6 figures of student loans, not mention insurance costs.

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Comment by measton
2009-09-15 15:55:10

Out of that 600 subtract malpractice and office overhead malpractice inurance ect. They may also have an assistant on the case. Very few do 10 cases a day. They certainly don’t operate every day, you have to do follow up which is covered as part of the initial surgery fee. Then there is the paperwork and all the medical education and regulatory work. You have to spend time with the patient and families explaing the procedure. No doubt they do better than most, but they put of earning a real salary after college for 7-10 years and deal with major stress.

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Comment by tresho
2009-09-15 18:50:56

This doesn’t surprise me. I had many minor surgeries in the last two years. My surgical bills ranged from $2500 to $5000 each. The surgeon that did the actual cutting got about $600 a pop. Let me repeat. The chick with the knife only got $600!
I once read an account by a dentist who had an emergency appendectomy done. He was so astounded by the low surgeon’s fee for that procedure, less than the dentist charged for a root canal, that he tipped the surgeon several hundred dollars.

 
 
Comment by Jon
2009-09-15 12:29:44

“Insurance payments for patient care have stayed virtually the same for the last 15 years, while the cost of doing business, including health insurance, staff salaries and supplies have risen.”

If insurance payments for patient care have stayed virtually the same for the last 15 years, then why is health insurance rising?

Comment by evildoc
2009-09-15 12:40:52

Assuming she was correct (I’m a Hospitalist so do not see the charges to customer), well, hospital bills and technology costs still skyrocket.

regards

evildoc

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:39:23

“If insurance payments for patient care have stayed virtually the same for the last 15 years, then why is health insurance rising?”

WE HAVE A WINNER!

 
Comment by measton
2009-09-15 15:58:05

If insurance payments for patient care have stayed virtually the same for the last 15 years, then why is health insurance rising?

1. Cure people of heart disease and you give them a chance to get cancer, or have further diabetes problems ect.
2. Many more treatment and imaging options available.
3. Insurance companies strip wealth from the system that could be used to provide care, and create an army of middle men and processors.
4. CYA, and over ordering of tests and procedures.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 07:57:51

This retailer believes X-Mas sales will be strong, the Chicoms better ramp up shipments…

Toys ‘R Us Plans to Open 350 ‘Holiday Express’ Stores
15 Sep 2009 News Editor

At a time when many retailers are shutting store locations, Toys ‘R Us is making a bold move of boosting its retail presence during its most critical selling season.

The toy retailer is expected to announce that it will open 350 “Holiday Express” stores by early October. This significant expansion will include more than 80 Holiday Express “pop-up” stores, which temporarily will open nationwide in malls and other shopping centers, and more than 260 Toys ‘R Us Holiday Express shops within the company’s Babies ‘R Us stores.

“We’re aggressively expanding our toy-selling footprint to make Toys ‘R Us more accessible than ever for busy shoppers this holiday season,” said company Chairman and CEO Jerry Storch.

Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:52:36

Brilliant move in my oppinion. Rent is cheap. Walmart has been crushing the toy sellers for a while.

Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 12:33:57

This is about the time of year when we see those temporary “Halloween” stores open up… except I haven’t seen anything yet.

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2009-09-15 12:55:49

In so far as CRE is concerned, Blockbuster’s announcement to close ~950 stores more than trumps this temporary move.

Looks like retail wants to blitz the hapless consumer this holiday season like never before. Coming soon: “Cash for Unwanted Toys”

 
 
Comment by Stpn2me
2009-09-15 08:03:38

Look at these idiots…

I really love the Hairstylist and the crane operator buying a $750,000 house….

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/real_estate/0908/gallery.first_time_homebuyers/3.html

Comment by Kim
2009-09-15 10:42:14

That has to be an option ARM or I/O loan. There is no way they can amortize that sucker on those kind of salaries.

Another anecdotal story: DH’s co-worker made an offer on a REO condo/duplex and after a few weeks of waiting, the bank accepted it. Well the other owner in the building somehow found out how low the pending sale amount is and quickly put his unit on the market (for almost $50K higher than co-workers bid), in hopes that he can sell before DH’s co-worker goes to settlement and that price becomes The New Comp.

 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 12:27:28

That sounds about right, and when the “euphoria” goes poof and the real world kicks in, they’ll have no problem leaving the keys on the ‘upgraded’ counter top.

Until then, they like too entertain and they get a whole 8 grand to blow!

It’s a no brainer, meaning they have no brains.

Comment by hip in zilker
2009-09-15 15:01:40

It’s a no brainer, meaning they have no brains

Thanks. I can’t wait to have a chance to use that phrase.

 
 
Comment by salinasron
2009-09-15 14:50:19

That story doesn’t ring true unless they had a ton of money sitting somewhere. It does say they are tapped out but needing the $8K at closing and then talking about using some to redo the house, I don’t think so. More RE spin.

 
Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2009-09-16 00:16:10

That’s the guy from that new ‘Community’ sitcom and my sister. What the heck?

 
 
Comment by fecaltime!
2009-09-15 08:35:49

I went to Vegas this weekend. I was amazed at how dead it was, at the Luxor and everywhere else. I left Los Angeles at 3:45pm on Friday, in 2007 I would have been doomed to an extra 2 hours of traffic for this sin, but I breezed all the way through to vegas, hitting speeds of 90 at times. Clearly attendence is way off, short lines at buffets, no lines at all for the roller coaster at NYNY and at the border. All in all, it was a pleasant experience without the crush of humanity I usually have to battle.

Fecaltime!

Comment by oxide
2009-09-15 10:42:21

With a name like that it’s a wonder the humanity wants to get near you at all.

Comment by AbsoluteBeginner
2009-09-16 00:20:36

Hi dee ho!

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 08:52:15

When Ben speaks, the stock market glistens.

market pulse
Sept. 15, 2009, 10:36 a.m. EDT

Bernanke defends crisis actions, upbeat on growth

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 08:57:19

Oil prices and stock shares will head higher so long as the Fed’s liquidity pump is running on high blast — it’s a nobrainer.

Sept. 15, 2009, 11:37 a.m. EDT

S&P 500 buybacks skidded to new lows in second quarter

Exxon Mobil accounts for one-fifth of all stock repurchases among S&P issues

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Stock buybacks among S&P 500 companies now stand at their lowest level in more than a decade, with the practice currently out of favor as companies horde cash to ride out the recession, Standard & Poor’s said on Tuesday.

Until sales and profits improve, and for more than one quarter, buybacks will be for the few brave companies that are willing to be separated from their cash security blanket,” Howard Silverblatt, senior index analyst at Standard & Poor’s, said in an email.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 09:01:10

Corinne Reilly - Merced Sun-Star

MERCED, Calif. — The first time Carey Mitchell saw her, Tammy was standing at an intersection near the 16th Street off ramp from Highway 99. Her clothes looked dirty, her face tired. She held a cardboard sign asking for spare change.

Without thinking, Mitchell pulled her car over. In an instant, Tammy was at her window. Mitchell rolled it down. “Do you need a place to sleep tonight?” she remembers asking. On a scrap of paper, Mitchell quickly sketched a map to a house a few miles away. It was Mitchell’s house, but she didn’t want it anymore.

She’d decided to stop paying the home’s mortgage. As she walked away, she handed the keys to Tammy, who stayed for three months before she was formally evicted this May. The nights Tammy spent there were the first she’d slept inside in more than three years.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2009-09-15 10:22:08

“Do you need a place to sleep tonight?” ;-)

Sounds like a Wells Fargo executive management compensation policy! ;-)

 
 
Comment by cougar91
2009-09-15 09:12:26

Foreign purchases of U.S. homes dip

Almost half of international home buyers pay cash to dodge difficulty of securing a mortgage, survey finds.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) — Despite record U.S. home price affordability, international buyers have been unable to take advantage because of the worldwide recession and credit crunch, a real estate group said Tuesday.

Home sales to foreign clients dropped 9.4% in the year ended in May to 154,000, according to a report from the National Association of Realtors.

Among international clients who did purchase, almost half paid cash for their property because securing a mortgage was more difficult than before, according to the report.

But the NAR expects the latest improvements in the credit market to turn the tide.

“Stock market gains and improving bank balance sheets will permit a greater amount of lending for second home purchases,” said NAR chief economist Lawrence Yun, adding that expending foreign economies and favorable exchange rates will give international buyers more purchasing power.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-09-15 09:20:35

Wonder whether CNN will continue to trot out the record affordability theory as more people are thrown out of work.
Recession? No. Where?

Comment by pressboardbox
2009-09-15 10:57:24

Soon, NAR stats will include only home sales/prices of homes owned by Government-employed people. The numbers will look great. The rest of us will live in blue tarp-roofed huts by the river.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-09-15 11:48:08

Rivers hereabouts have no water in them.
The Kern, the San Joaquin, the mighty Fresno.
So we’d have to take a water bottle down to the banks. :)

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Comment by milkcrate
2009-09-15 09:18:04

A lot of the malpractice insurance has been consolidated in the last few years. What you hear less about: AIG absorbed much of that business.

Comment by skroodle
2009-09-15 10:48:22

Thats the Free Market baby!

Comment by measton
2009-09-15 10:56:56

The end game of capitalism is monopoly/ oligopoly.
That’s when capitalism fails and becomes facism.
That’s where we are heading.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 11:21:45

The end game of capitalism corporate cronyism is monopoly/ oligopoly.
That’s when capitalism fails and becomes facism.
That’s where we are heading.
Reply to

FTFY

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Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:43:11

The third oldest profession.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 11:39:42

Au @ 1007….. dollar down because BB popped out and blew smoke up every body’s pa-toot!

Gold turns up as Bernanke says recession is over

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Gold futures climbed back above the $1,000-an-ounce mark on Tuesday, after upbeat U.S. economic reports and as Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said the recession is likely over.

However, he and other Fed officials reiterated views that unemployment will remain high and economy stay weak well into next year, fueling expectations that the central bank will continue to provide ample liquidity.

The front-month September gold contract was up $4.30, or 0.4%, at $1,004.20 an ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange. The more active December contract was up $4.30, or 0.4%, at $1,005.50 an ounce.

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 11:41:57

So green shoots after all (down).

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 11:44:35

Blockbusted: 960 Stores May Be Closed by 2011
Blockbuster may close or convert almost a thousand stores by the end of next year (AP)

In a regulatory filing posted Tuesday, Dallas-based video rental giant Blockbuster revealed 18 percent of their stores are currently unprofitable and may face closure.

Blockbuster may close 960 stores by the end of next year, according to the Dallas Morning News, but that number could increase if many of the under-performing stores cannot renegotiate lease agreements.

In addition, some locations could be converted to “outlets,” focusing on reselling media rather than Blockbuster’s current rental and resale mix.

Last month, Blockbuster CEO Jim Keyes said the company’s focus is on a more aggressive “hub and spoke” strategy — one that includes more retail DVD kiosks, ala Redbox.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-09-15 11:49:59

Pulling down commercial rents more at the ubiquitous strip malls.

Comment by milkcrate
2009-09-15 11:53:04

The former CEO of Sony had it right a few years ago when he said music could no longer be sold “as a packaged good.”
Same thing applies to pictures, rental or otherwise.

Comment by ET-Chicago
2009-09-15 12:03:57

Frankly, I’m surprised the Blockbuster model has lasted this long. It’s a dinosaur teetering on three legs.

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Comment by drumminj
2009-09-15 20:14:53

It’s a dinosaur teetering on three legs.

Their answer to Netflix is actually a pretty good compromise, I think. Having the mail-order plan, but being able to exchange in person immediately is a nice competitive edge over Netflix. But the reality is most people don’t take advantage of that (I imagine), so the cost of the physical presence/rent probably kills them.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 11:57:35

He must have heard… the recession is over.

Rockefeller & Co CEO dies from apparent suicide…

BOSTON (Reuters) - James McDonald, a prominent adviser to wealthy families as chief executive of investment management group Rockefeller & Co, died of a single gunshot wound on Sunday, local authorities said on Tuesday.

McDonald, 56, was found dead in his car near a strip mall in Dartmouth, Massachusetts on Sunday afternoon. Police are still investigating.

“The preliminary investigation concludes that this was an apparent suicide,” Gregg Miliote, a spokesman for Bristol County District Attorney Sam Sutter said.

McDonald won praise for growing Rockefeller & Co, the New York-based family office established by oil tycoon John D. Rockefeller in 1882 to manage the dynasty’s assets, into a broader investment management company with roughly $28 billion in assets.

Known as a perfectionist who drove himself and his employees hard, McDonald lived in New York City where people who worked with him said he was equally at home in corporate boardrooms and the city’s most exclusive social circles.

Earlier this year, McDonald was one of the directors who left the board of lender CIT Group.

Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 12:19:28

He must not have heard…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:45:29

Hmmm, wonder what he knew…

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 12:18:01

NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- Political pressure to reign in energy “speculators” appears to have claimed its first victim in the ETF industry.

On Tuesday Deutsche Bank said it will redeem all shares of PowerShares DB Crude Oil Double Long Exchange Traded Note (DXO), an ETF-like security that helps investor double bets on the price of oil.

Deutsche Bank had already stopped issuing new shares for the exchange-traded note, prompting existing shares to trade at a steep premium. The move appears to be the first time calls to curb speculation in the energy markets has prompted a fund firm to close a product.

 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 12:49:20

Samurai sword must be gaining popularity, we had a fellow kill (run through) a thief with one in our city, not long ago.

Hopkins student kills intruder with samurai sword, police say
Off-campus house was burglarized Monday; suspect recently freed from county jail

A Johns Hopkins University student armed with a samurai sword killed a man who broke into the garage of his off-campus residence early Tuesday, a Baltimore police spokesman said.

According to preliminary reports, a resident of the 300 block of E. University Parkway called police about a suspicious person, department spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said. An off-duty officer responded about 1:20 a.m. to the area with university security, according to Guglielmi. They heard shouts and screams from a neighboring house and found the suspected burglar suffering from a nearly severed hand and laceration to his upper body, he said.

The suspect was pronounced dead at the scene. Based on the initial investigation, the student killed the man with only one strike of the sword, according to Guglielmi. The medical examiner will make the final determination, he said.

Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:48:44

Well, if you can’t own a gun…

 
 
Comment by cobaltblue
2009-09-15 13:09:21

If Chinese drywall or anti-freeze in your toothpaste doesn’t get you, your shower-head might:

Shower heads harbour germs that cause lung disease, study finds - by Hannah Devlin (UK Times Online)

It’s not quite Psycho-esque — but taking a shower could damage your health, according to scientists who have discovered that shower heads are a breeding ground for germs that cause lung disease.

A study has found that shower-heads contained levels of Mycobacterium avium, or M. avium, that were more than 100 times higher than in tapwater. Exposure to the pathogen can lead to low-level persistent infections in healthy people and to a more serious condition similar to tuberculosis in the elderly and those with compromised immune systems.

The bacteria multiply rapidly in shower heads’ warm, dark, wet conditions, clumping together in slimy residues known as biofilms. The discovery is worrying because shower water is vaporised into tiny drops, meaning bacteria can be carried deep into the lungs.

Professor Norman Pace, a molecular biologist at the University of Colorado at Boulder, who led the study, said: “How many people do you know with a shallow cough? Probably a lot. I would bet that in a lot of cases Mycobacterium avium is responsible. I think it’s a serious public health concern.”

Unlike tuberculosis, M. avium cannot be transmitted from person to person and generally causes only mild symptoms in healthy people. Little is known about how many people are affected by the strain. About eight million people in the UK have some form of lung disease.

In the study, 45 shower heads were taken from homes in ten American regions and tested for bacteria linked with lung disease. More than 20 per cent had significant amounts of M. avium. It was found in few samples of tapwater from the same locations.

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-09-15 14:47:10

UMMMMM ever heard of Bleach? you take the shower head off or mine has a hose and pluses and let it soak a few minutes a month….

———————————
together in slimy residues known as biofilms

Comment by packman
2009-09-15 19:34:35

Vinegar

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 13:33:59

U.S. hotel room rates fall 17% in first half of 2009
South Florida Business Journal

The average price of a hotel room in the U.S. fell 17 percent, year-over-year, in the first six months of 2009, according to the latest Hotels.com Hotel Price Index.

The average room rate in the U.S. cost, on average, $115 a night in the first half of the year, down from $139 in 2008.

“This is, by far, the most significant change in prices we’ve seen since we created the Hotel Price Index,” Hotels.com President David Roche said in a news release. “Americans’ travel dollars have never gone farther than in 2009.”

The reduction in the U.S. follows a larger global trend, with room rates in Europe down 16 percent, Asia down 17 percent and Latin America down 18 percent.

Among other findings:

* Las Vegas overtook New York City as the favorite domestic destination for U.S. travelers in the first half of 2009, with room rates in the city averaging just $82 a night. New York City, Orlando, Chicago and San Francisco rounded out the top five.
* Las Vegas and New York City both experienced the nation’s greatest drop in room rates, with each destination down 30 percent compared to the same period the previous year.
* New York was the most expensive destination, followed by Hawaii, Massachusetts and Wyoming, whose ski tourism helped boost hotel prices in the state.
* The nation’s least expensive states in the first half of 2009 included Nevada, with room rates averaging just $77, Idaho and Kansas.
* London usurped Toronto as the most popular foreign destination for U.S. travelers.
* For international travelers visiting the U.S., New York, Las Vegas and San Francisco were the top destinations in the first and second quarters of the year.

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-09-15 13:34:55

” They heard shouts and screams from a neighboring house and found the suspected burglar suffering from a nearly severed hand and laceration to his upper body, he said.”

“The suspect was pronounced dead at the scene. The medical examiner will make the final determination, he said.”

What determination will the medical examiner make?

Note to self.
Don`t fuque with a Samurai.

Comment by X-philly
2009-09-15 13:57:41

Cue John Belushi

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-09-15 14:00:41

Poorer but no wiser… America falls behind in the global wealth wars

LONDON (MarketWatch) — A year after the Lehman Bros. collapse and subsequent credit crisis comes new confirmation that America is falling behind.

A report by the Boston Consulting Group finds that the U.S. is no longer home to the greatest chunk of the world’s wealth. That honor now belongs to Europe. See related story.

Of course, it’s not like anybody is really getting ahead. Global wealth fell nearly 12% in the past year to $92.4 trillion. It’s just that America’s share is falling faster than Europe’s, where total wealth declined a mere 5.8%.

And it could just be a case of America having a higher “beta” than the rest of the world. In which case, even though wealth gets destroyed faster in the U.S., it also is created more quickly there.

One had better hope so, given that the effect on the U.S. tax base over the past year has been pretty devastating, especially at a time when the country’s need of big earners has never been greater.

Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:52:13

“One had better hope so, given that the effect on the U.S. tax base over the past year has been pretty devastating, especially at a time when the country’s need of big earners has never been greater.”

What a crock.

 
 
Comment by cobaltblue
2009-09-15 14:28:34

Bernanke: “Recession Is Over” (Depression Has Just Begun)
Then explain this for credit card charge-offs for the last month:

Discover Financial Services Reports Aug Master Trust; Net Charge offs 9.16% v 8.43% m/m

JPMorgan Chase and Co Reports Aug Master Trust; Net charge offs 10.07% v 7.92% m/m

Bank of America Corp Reports Aug Master Trust; Net Charge offs 14.54% v 13.82% m/m

Citigroup Inc Reports Aug Master Trust; Net Charge offs 12.1% v 10.03% m/m

At these rates, credit card interest rates will necessarily go to 25% or the issuers will go broke,
or both. Green shoots? More like green vomit.

Comment by jeff saturday
2009-09-15 15:01:33

Bernanke: “Recession Is Over”

Happy days are here again, the skies above are clear again.
Happy days are here again.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 22:56:13

Isn’t Ben Bernanke pretty much following in Alan Greenspan’s footsteps with a policy of ‘persistent cheap money’?

The Financial Times
Economist warns of double-dip recession
By Robert Cookson and Sundeep Tucker in Hong Kong

Published: September 14 2009 15:01 | Last updated: September 14 2009 15:01

The world has not tackled the problems at the heart of the economic downturn and is likely to slip back into recession, according to one of the few mainstream economists who predicted the financial crisis.

Speaking at the Sibos conference in Hong Kong on Monday, William White, the highly-respected former chief economist at the Bank for International Settlements, also warned that government actions to help the economy in the short run may be sowing the seeds for future crises.

“Are we going into a W[-shaped recession]? Almost certainly. Are we going into an L? I would not be in the slightest bit surprised,” he said, referring to the risks of a so-called double-dip recession or a protracted stagnation like Japan suffered in the 1990s.

“The only thing that would really surprise me is a rapid and sustainable recovery from the position we’re in.”

The comments from Mr White, who ran the economic department at the central banks’ bank from 1995 to 2008, carry weight because he was one of the few senior figures to predict the financial crisis in the years before it struck.

Mr White repeatedly warned of dangerous imbalances in the global financial system as far back as 2003 and – breaking a great taboo in central banking circles at the time – he dared to challenge Alan Greenspan, then chairman of the Federal Reserve, over his policy of persistent cheap money.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-09-15 14:53:49

http://news.yahoo.com/comics/tom-toles

Go to the 13th. Or just click “Prev”

 
Comment by measton
2009-09-15 19:56:42

Hey I found a good use for all of those moth balled ships

This may sound like a pretty good TV crime show plot, but this is non-fiction: Reuters reports that Italian authorities have discovered a ship containing 180 barrels of toxic waste (some of which may be radioactive), which was purposely sunk by the Mafia, off Italy’s southern coast. What’s more, it’s suspected there are 32 more vessels waiting to be found:

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 21:38:05

The Fed is too-big-to-audit.

* WALL STREET JOURNAL
* SEPTEMBER 16, 2009

Anti-Fed Activists Fuel Push for Audit

By SUDEEP REDDY

At the core of a congressional push to audit the Federal Reserve are activists with a larger purpose: to abolish the central bank.

Thousands of Americans are joining protests and lobbying their lawmakers in pursuit of the ultimate goal of replacing the Fed with a money system backed by gold or other commodities.

A movement to abolish the Fed was largely inspired by Rep. Ron Paul, left, addressing an audience about a health-care overhaul on Aug. 12, 2009.

Largely inspired by Rep. Ron Paul, the Texas Republican whose latest book, “End the Fed,” will be released Wednesday, the movement draws its strength from people who want a sharp shift away from government dependency and toward a truly free-market economy.

Among the activists backing the cause is Isaiah Matos, the superintendent of a luxury high-rise building in New York City. Mr. Matos was an antiwar protester earlier this decade before he became a libertarian. Through neighborhood groups in Queens organized using Meetup.com, Mr. Matos met other Ron Paul backers who shared his distrust for the central bank and a currency backed only by a government’s promise.

“I believe in a commodity-backed currency,” said Mr. Matos, 30 years old. “In college, I didn’t understand how we could move from gold to paper.”

Mr. Paul’s entrance into politics was driven by a similar concern. He decided to run for Congress in the early 1970s after President Richard Nixon ended the U.S. dollar’s ties to gold. His long-term goal is a return to a commodity-backed dollar, allowing the currency to be redeemed for gold. Through his constant attacks on the central bank, Mr. Paul is drawing backers nationwide who also criticize the Fed for supporting Wall Street and bailing out financial institutions.

Mainstream economists generally credit the Fed for moderating economic cycles and mitigating the fallout from financial shocks. The central bank serves as the nation’s lender of last resort, preventing runs on commercial banks by using its ability to create credit. The Fed influences interest rates as part of its mandate to balance inflation and unemployment. Mr. Paul and his followers say all of that should be left to market forces.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 22:13:26

I have a thought. Since the Fed’s monetary policy destiny seems to be that of perpetually blowing bubbles, thereby providing the motive for too-big-to-fail bailouts during the inexorable bust to follow, perhaps it is time to relieve them of their monetary policy duties so they can focus on their financial regulatory function. With interest rates at zero percent for the indefinite future, there does not appear to be much to do by way of monetary rate decisions, anyway.

Who knows — maybe the Fed would actually be more effective at financial regulation than the SEC or the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight proved to be. I am guessing they might be especially effective at discouraging companies from becoming too big, if they did not also have the discretion to bail out anyone deemed systemically risky enough to bring down the entire financial universe if the did happen to fail.

And I respectfully beg to differ with the notion of the financial sector’s “duties.” They have duties to obey the law, but not to turn themselves into charitable organizations. It was “charitably” making loans to people without the means to repay them which brought on the troubles we are in now. Let bankers get on with the business of banking, instead of forcing them to make loans or extend forbearance to unqualified borrowers, and we will be collectively better off.

Obama calls for reforms in speech to Wall Street

Financial sector told it has a duty to aid in a wider recovery

By Ben Feller
ASSOCIATED PRESS

2:00 a.m. September 15, 2009

Obama’s plan also would give the Federal Reserve new oversight powers and impose conditions designed to discourage companies from getting too big. And he proposes a consumer protection agency to make rules for financial products, so people know what they’re buying.

The House Financial Services Committee, led by Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., who supports much of Obama’s plan, is expected in October to take up the first piece of the legislation, one that would establish an agency focused on consumer protections. The panel has already passed legislation intended to curb excessive compensation at financial institutions.

Obama’s plan could face significant revisions in the Senate, where Democrats have joined Republicans in questioning whether more power should be given to the Federal Reserve.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 21:56:13

Didn’t prices rise and sales slow just before the really big crash first started?

Southern California home sales dip while median prices rise

By Roger Showley
Union-Tribune Staff Writer

11:23 a.m. September 15, 2009

Southern California home sales dipped in August as foreclosure activity slowed, while median prices rose for the fourth straight month, MDA DataQuick reported Tuesday.

The six-county trend, mirrored in San Diego, left the overall median at $275,000, up 2.6 percent from $268,000 in July but 16.7 percent below the $330,000 median in August 2008. San Diego’s median, as reported Monday, was $325,000, up $5,000 from July but down 7.1 percent from August 2008’s $350,000.

Sales regionally totaled 19,366, down 10.8 percent from 24,104 in July, though the usual pattern is for August sales to be higher than July. DataQuick said the decline was probably attributable to fewer low-cost homes sold that had previously gone through foreclosure in the previous 12 months.

Of the total resales in August, 38.8 percent were foreclosure properties, down from 40.7 percent in July and 45.5 percent in August 2008. San Diego’s percentage was 32.2 percent, compared with 37.4 percent in July and 43.1 percent a year earlier.

With fewer low-cost foreclosure sales taking place, the overall median rose as nondistressed and higher-priced properties closed escrow, DataQuick noted.

“There’s still a lot of uncertainty out there about prices, interest rates and the availability of mortgage money,” DataQuick President John Walsh said in a statement.

Comment by measton
2009-09-15 22:28:02

Didn’t prices rise and sales slow just before the really big crash first started?

You just wonder if all those Wells Fargo party houses were released on the market what it would do to prices.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 22:18:20

The central bankers are going to try to set up Congress to take the blame for the future inflation that is already in the pipeline, thanks to the helicopter drops of cash that have been flooding out of the sky.

Greenspan Sees Threat Congress to Hamper Fed Inflation Fight

By Timothy R. Homan

Sept. 16 (Bloomberg) — Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said he’s concerned that lawmakers will hamper U.S. central bank efforts to rein in its monetary stimulus, and that inflation might “swamp” the bond market.

“It’s the politics in the United States that worries me, whether the Congress will basically feel comfortable” with the Fed withdrawing its stimulus, Greenspan said in a broadcast to Tokyo clients of Deutsche Bank Securities Inc. today. He later said that “if inflation rears its head, it will swamp long-term markets,” referring to bonds.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-09-15 22:59:36

The Financial Times
Why some economists could see it coming

By Dirk Bezemer

Published: September 8 2009 03:00 | Last updated: September 8 2009 03:00

From the beginning of the credit crisis and ensuing recession, it has become conventional wisdom that “no one saw this coming”. Anatole Kaletsky wrote in The Times of “those who failed to foresee the gravity of this crisis” - a group that included “almost every leading economist and financier in the world”. Glenn Stevens, governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia, said: “I do not know anyone who predicted this course of events. But it has occurred, it has implications, and so we must reflect on it.” We must indeed.

Because, in fact, many had seen it coming for years. They were ignored by an establishment that, as the former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan professed in his October 2008 testimony to Congress, watched with “shocked disbelief” as its “whole intellectual edifice collapsed in the summer [of 2007]“. Official models missed the crisis not because the conditions were so unusual, as we are often told. They missed it by design. It is impossible to warn against a debt deflation recession in a model world where debt does not exist. This is the world our policymakers have been living in. They urgently need to change habitat.

 
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