December 25, 2009

Bits Bucket For December 25, 2009

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Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 07:49:40

I’m working today cat sitting, visiting the little kitties and making a few buckos

Comment by say what
2009-12-25 08:13:52

Hey you are getting with the new economy!

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-12-25 09:57:31

I love cats, especially with a side of mashed potatoes.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2009-12-25 14:57:24

Do you serve cats with dark gravy?

 
 
Comment by bink
2009-12-25 10:40:24

I’m afraid this might be a euphemism. Then again, maybe that would be best for aNYCdj.

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 14:22:49

No euphemisms, we go to peoples apartments and check up on the precious ones. People leave town, go on vacations have jobs where they have to travel in a hurry…like news reporters..nice extra cash the job is real easy if both of us do it and i drive.

 
 
 
Comment by WHYoung
2009-12-25 08:01:38

I’m dog sitting… started the day by walking them in central park. Not sure which is worse, scooping a cat box or tidying up after fido with a plastic bag. buckos nice tho.

Happy Holidays to all.

Comment by combotechie
2009-12-25 08:04:19

How many buckos does one earn for cat sitting and dog sitting?

(Too bad you can’t combine the two.)

Comment by ann gogh
2009-12-25 09:07:05

My precious 16 year old sheltie passed away this week.
annie pulled the plug on nico, but I still have pico.
It is sad to lose a pet to old age, but it’s worse if they get hit by a car or run away. Let’s unite in the new world order!

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 10:30:06

ann…I’m sorry to hear that about your 16 year old dog. I have put 2 dogs down so far in my life when they were near the end .Its a hard thing to do ,but it spares them a lot of pain . My current dog is 6 years old and the day will come when I might have to do it
with this dog .

Anyway ,I would like to think that it’s a act of love to do it when the time comes ,at least my motive was to spare pain when I have done it . You pretty much have a feel for when the time is right I think . Peace to you ,I feel your pain .

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Comment by ann gogh
2009-12-25 11:57:19

I was more sad that he got so old and so very ill.
Thank you HW!

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 14:54:27

It is sad seeing a dog go down hill .

 
 
Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 15:32:46

Sorry to hear about your dog, Ann. :(

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Comment by pismoclam
2009-12-26 22:33:27

Since the EPA says that a medium dog has the same carbon footprint as a SUV expect that dogs will be required by the Obamamaniacs to go to the DEATH PANEL seminars that’s in the Obama health bill.

 
 
 
Comment by polly
2009-12-25 08:03:18

Boxes and packing tape accompanied by Mythbusters marathon. Not quite Chinese food and a movie, but it’ll do.

Comment by wolfgirl
2009-12-25 08:07:46

Christmas pizza—homemade.

Comment by awaiting wioeout
2009-12-25 08:23:51

wolfgirl
Low carb, by any chance? :)
(That’s one food, I like the real way. Fat, carbs, grease, and taste!)

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 10:31:00

My girlfiend and I would make the healthiest cheeze pizza ever. It would have not only the traditional sauteed mushrooms, olives, and chopped garlic, green peppers, we would add steamed (softened) brocolli, brussel sprouts. No meats.

We made our own crust. Homemade is the best. Now if only I can find her recipe!

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 10:32:29

Heh heh: “girlfiend” == girlfriend

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Comment by combotechie
2009-12-25 10:48:29

“Girlfiend: works in some cases. (Too many cases, in fact.)

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 10:55:08

I’ve had a few girlfiends myself over the years…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 15:22:11

:lol:

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2009-12-25 08:03:34

Merry Christmas everyone. I’m listening to a CD of Christmas Piano.

Check the “Magical Caroling Truck” video out. I grew up in North Hollywood, when it was nice. The entertainment element is still alive and well, Thank God.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=7188469
Enjoy the magic of the season.

Comment by palmetto
2009-12-25 10:21:45

Watching the Nutcracker ballet myself. Who says white men can’t dance?

Rock Cornish game hens later with cranberry sauce and baked stuff taters, later.

Merry Christmas to Ben and the blogsters.

Palmetto.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:16:45

The New York Times
Reuters Breakingviews
Mortgage Titans Resist Shrinkage

By AGNES CRANE and UNA GALANI
Published: December 24, 2009

As with many giants, it’s hard to cut Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac down to size. The government, which controls the mortgage behemoths, planned to shrink them by 10 percent in 2010. Don’t count on it.

Failure is unthinkable, even though both companies still rely on a $400 billion equity life-line from taxpayers. These are institutions with a combined $1.5 trillion portfolio of mortgage-related investments. Without their supply of financing for home borrowers with good credit, house prices would be lower — and more banks would be in trouble.

Yet in theory, Fannie and Freddie could still be allowed to wither away. When they were put into conservatorship in 2008, a special sort of bankruptcy, the plan was to cut back on their hedge-fund-like investment portfolios beginning next year.

In March, one other big support of the housing market will disappear. The Federal Reserve is supposed to sell down, or at least not add to, its $1.25 trillion portfolio of mortgage-related securities built up since January. Private investors are expected to take the Fed’s place. Mortgage-backed bonds still sport triple-A ratings and offer a higher yield than government debt.

But it’s a big hole to fill. And the last thing any politicians want in an election year is for mortgage rates to rise, as they will if private demand falls short. So the government is not going to be in a hurry to let Fannie and Freddie add to the pressure on the weak housing market. They won’t start winding down their portfolios until house prices are much firmer. On the contrary, they will stand ready to act as purchaser of last resort.

Of course, in the long term it’s hard to see why government should be in the business of using tax receipts to prop up housing prices and make good on losses from mortgage defaults. That distorts everything about the housing business and adds to the state’s fiscal burden. But barring a government financing crisis, the long-term wind-down for Fannie and Freddie isn’t going to start in 2010.

Comment by arizonadude
2009-12-25 08:29:38

Merry christmas to all of you.I have been lurking around here for almost 6 years and have learned a lot from all of you.I remember being in gilbert az on my computer stressing about housing prices.So I believe I typed in housing bubble into google or even yahoo that long ago and I came across this blog.Thanks to ben for all his hard work and I hope his business is going well.I’m in sacramento today enjoying the holidays.

Comment by yensoy
2009-12-25 08:56:45

Good to hear from you azdude! Yes it’s been a while since many of us did that internet search that brought us here. Thanks Ben and best wishes to you.

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2009-12-25 11:12:58

Funny–I too remember the moment I did that same google search with clarify; at the time, it was just a suspicion, and I remember typing it with some trepidation—almost feeling a little guilty for my suspicions. :-)

My how things change with just the passage of a handful of years. :-)

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Comment by ann gogh
2009-12-25 12:03:21

I came across this site out of anger because my sister told me I’m a loser and i needed to educate myself before I owned in 5-07. after that i told her about the bust in oct 07 and she just blew me off! now that we’ve all been so alarmed with the economy it’s every person for themselves!

 
Comment by ann gogh
2009-12-25 12:10:30

correction: 5-06 not 5-07 brain is buggin’

 
Comment by In Montana
2009-12-25 13:23:20

she saying you were a loser - why? for wanting to buy or not buying or ??

 
Comment by ann gogh
2009-12-25 13:30:13

it’s girl talk for , I have a husband who does all the hard stuff, and you are a loser and can’t possibly buy a home on your own. I eclipsed her in knowledge and have a house full of food supplies and still rent. hi combo!

 
 
 
Comment by REhobbyist
2009-12-25 10:43:01

Enjoy a Sacramento Christmas, azdude! My husband and I are enjoying a quiet Christmas morning, reading the paper and watching basketball. My dog is on my lap and I’m enjoying HBB posts. This is a good time of life, sleeping in on Christmas day. Our sons will come over later and we’ll eat a good dinner. Only downside is that I’m on call, but hopefully people will stay well enough today to avoid surgery.

 
 
Comment by Rancher
2009-12-25 08:37:47

WASHINGTON, Dec 24 (Reuters) - The Obama administration pledged on Thursday to back beleaguered mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac no matter how big their losses may be in the next three years.

Treasury also said it would not require, nor expect, the two agencies to reduce the size of their mortgage-related investment portfolios next year, as they had previously been required to do.

Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2009-12-25 09:37:37

Our only hope is the bond vigilantes. Please, please come and save us from ourselves! Don’t let us borrow, or at least not cheaply!

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 10:53:48

Why would the bond vigilantes have to worry about anything if toxic mortgage debt has just been granted an unlimited guarantee? Too-big-to-fail, forever!!!

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2009-12-25 15:06:21

“….the business of using tax receipts to prop up housing prices…….”

Lower house prices = Lower Property Tax receipts and/or higher tax rates/mill levies

Neither of which is good if you are a politician, and your supporters are depending on some kind of government check.

 
Comment by technovelist
2009-12-25 19:50:23

You know about this, right?

“The Obama administration pledged Thursday to provide unlimited financial assistance to mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, an eleventh-hour move that allows the government to exceed the current $400 billion cap on emergency aid without seeking permission from a bailout-weary Congress.”

Do you still think the Fed is going to end QE soon?

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:21:34

A Christmas present for Fannie and Freddie: TBTF bailouts without limits!

* The Wall Street Journal
* DECEMBER 24, 2009, 4:05 P.M. ET

U.S. Uncaps Support for Fannie, Freddie

By JESSICA HOLZER and MICHAEL R. CRITTENDEN

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Treasury said it would provide capital as needed to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac over the next three years, effectively opening its checkbook to the government-controlled companies in a bid to reassure investors in their debt.

Treasury also will end its purchases of the companies’ mortgage-backed securities and terminate a never-used short-term liquidity facility set up for the firms and the Federal Home Loan Banks.

And it moved to allow the companies to shrink their giant portfolios of mortgage securities more slowly, though it said it was still “committed to the principle” of reducing the portfolios.

Treasury announced the moves in a Christmas Eve press release, a week before its authority to change the terms of its agreements with the companies was set to expire. After Dec. 31, Treasury would need the consent of Congress to make such changes.

So far, the government has pumped $60 billion into Fannie Mae and $51 billion into Freddie Mac to keep each company solvent since it seized the firms in September 2008 under a legal authority known as “conservatorship.” The companies, threatened by mounting mortgage defaults, were headed toward collapse.

At the time, the Treasury pledged to inject up to $100 billion of capital apiece as needed into the companies in exchange for preferred stock paying a 10% dividend. The Obama administration earlier this year doubled that commitment to $200 billion.

The new terms announced Thursday would allow the cap on Treasury’s support to increase by the amount of the total net loss the firms experience over the next three years, beginning on Jan. 1. The cap in place at the end of 2012 would apply thereafter.

The changes come as Fannie’s and Freddie’s regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency, on Thursday approved multimillion pay packages for the firms’ top executives. The pay announcement and the sweeping increase in the government’s commitment to backstop the companies are certain to stoke anger from the companies’ critics on Capitol Hill.

“The Obama administration’s decision to write a blank check with taxpayer dollars for the continued bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is appalling,” said Rep. Scott Garrett (R., N.J.). He argued the timing of the announcement, on Christmas Eve, was “designed to try and sneak the bailout by the taxpayers.”

Comment by yensoy
2009-12-25 09:07:53

At this point, it doesn’t matter what the treasury thinks. The big question is whether (a) China (and to a smaller extent, Japan, Korea, OPEC and the rest) are willing to continue to buy treasury debt at these “stated interest” rates, (b) if not, will the treasury be willing to issue debt at higher coupon rates, and further (c) if not, whether the US public is willing to accept the inevitable massive fall in the value of the USD.

The other question is whether there will emerge other buying opportunities for these saver nations - in the form of large profitable US companies for sale, oil and mineral rights, gold and precious metals, maybe a return to the DMark and Bunds denominated in those…

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 09:33:37

Thats how crazy the whole system was . We took savings from saver Nations like China and used that money to finance spending from debtors who couldn’t afford what they were buying . Does anybody see how Globalism in regards to money supply can produce some very strange results ,especially if you have greedy Wall Street at the
helm of this money exchange and leverage game playing lender and creating the mis-allocations .Does anybody think that if the United States takes in money for investments from all over the world it could create to much money for lending or some other hair-brain bubble.
Now carry that idea further to having our markets flooded with cheap foreign slave labor goods with outsourcing and in-sourcing and can anybody see how this could create a entire set up for a fall
of the systems that actually functioned rather well for many years
here in America before de-regulation and faulty trade balances .

Taking the financial systems and product goods systems Global ,
without regards to the net results of the acts to people of a Country ,could only come about if Traitors were at the helm .

Comment by palmetto
2009-12-25 10:32:38

Housing Wizard, you said everything I wanted to say.

Here’s little Christmas present for you and others of like mind. RIP globalization!

http://www.slate.com/id/2238188/

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Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 12:18:14

Nice article palmetto ,thanks . I hope that we can regain
a manufacturing base again . As far as China goes ,they have a big market to sell to ….their own people for God sakes . Can’t say I blame China people for not wanted the junk they make or
want it on the low salaries they get .

One of the reason why American grew such a big middle class
was the advent of fairer wages that resulted in people having buying power .Otherwise you get a rich and a poor class and that is it .

 
Comment by In Montana
2009-12-25 13:28:32

I’ve got Methodist missionary ancestors who went to China circa 1890, so grew up with some China boosterism and pseudo-expertise in the family. See, the idea was to “open China to trade” and sell them our goods.

How friggin naive it all seems now.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 10:34:21

None of this would have happened if we had hard currency and decentralized banking.

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-12-25 12:17:26

Testify, Brother Bill!

 
 
 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 09:11:28

Happy Holidays to everyone .

PB………Pretty sneaky to make the announcement about bail outs for
F&F on Christmas Eve . Did anyone have any question that F&F was being used as the bag-holder for the junk that the government pledged to back ? What was the foreclosure rate on new loans made to the
borrowers in need of loan modifications ,wasn’t it 40% or more ?

Way back in 2005 or maybe 2006 I remember Mozillo (CountryWides CEO) at the time was screaming about having a bunch of loans and the Government had to do something . At the time I concluded that the
Government would most likely use F&F as a dumping ground for toxic waste in one way or another . Sure enough Congress very shortly after that raised the F&F loan limits and they were off and running .
So ,nobody can tell me this wasn’t the plan from very early in the
meltdown . In fact if you go back to my posts I was saying that I thought this was the plan and I looked like a nut cake at the time for saying it . I contend that this was the plan all along ,in spite of the blank check for 700 billion for direct capital injections to even Insurance Companies (AIG) .

It all goes back to what do you do with assets that are worth 25 to 30 % of the face amount and get a greater amount of money for it than the true market would bear . Hank Paulson use to say it was a problem with GOOD BANK/BAD BANK and the Bad Banks assets need to go so the Good Banks could function (or words to that effect ). I will never forget the Treasury of the United States at the time (Hank Paulson ) talking his GOOD BANK /BAD BANK tap dance in front of Congress .

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 10:51:52

“Did anyone have any question that F&F was being used as the bag-holder for the junk that the government pledged to back?”

I woke up early this Christmas Day reflecting on the realization that the old toxic Superfund-SIV idea has given way to turning the defunct GSEs into the toxic mortgage debt repository.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 11:49:34

It has never been a issue as to how to get rid of the Bad Banks toxic assets . The issue has always been how to get more money for them than they are really worth ….next enters all the contortions we have seen .

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Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 15:54:25

…How to use taxpayer money to subsidize the profits of private banks and lenders.

And they try to convince taxpayers that this is a good idea because their housing prices will remain artificially inflated.

So, they are willing to sacrifice savers — via dollar devaluation/asset price inflation — who’ve refused to take on debt they couldn’t repay so that banks and debtors can be made whole.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 16:23:25

And all this nonsense is crammed down Main Street America’s throat with a huge dollop of propaganda, to characterize bailouts as either necessary to save the global economy from collapse, or otherwise in the interest of the greater good.

 
Comment by CA renter
2009-12-26 00:16:34

Right. Surely, it would be the **end of the world** if we didn’t bail out the banks.

 
 
 
 
Comment by crazy frog
2009-12-25 10:29:10

“Treasury removes cap for Fannie and Freddie aid”
quietly, and on Christmas Eve, before Long Holiday weekend….

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Treasury-removes-cap-for-apf-602219088.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

“The companies are nowhere close to using the $400 billion they had before, so why do this now?” said Bert Ely, a banking consultant in Alexandria, Va. “It’s possible we may see some horrendous numbers for the fourth quarter and, thus 2009, and Treasury wants to calm the markets.”

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 16:15:01

Has losing tens of billions of dollars ever before been so lucrative?

Santa showers Fannie, Freddie with cash
By Colin Barr, senior writerDecember 24, 2009: 4:19 PM ET

NEW YORK (Fortune) — For top executives, ’tis the season to get paid in company stock - unless you happen to work at Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac.

The taxpayer-backed mortgage giants disclosed Thursday that they could pay out as much as $40 million to their top 10 executives for work in 2009.

The CEOs - Fannie’s (FNM, Fortune 500) Michael Williams and Freddie’s (FRE, Fortune 500) Charles Haldeman - are in line to receive as much as $6 million apiece, on an annualized basis (though both will get less this year because they took their jobs midway through the year).

That’s a nice chunk of change for running two companies that together lost $72 billion in the first nine months of 2009 and have received $112 billion in Treasury aid.

But what’s remarkable is that every penny Fannie and Freddie will pay out will be in cash - at a time when the White House is pressuring companies to pay more in stock, in the name of suppressing the bet-the-ranch mentality that helped pave the way for Wall Street’s 2008 collapse.

Comment by Nudge
2009-12-25 18:23:14

PB, I have often wondered if guys like that are like that crony “Brownie” who former president Bush put in charge of FEMA .. you know, like they’re someone’s cousin / nephew / former-college-buddy who someone owes favors to, so they give them a job where they’re guaranteed to get a certain amount of money etc.

 
 
Comment by technovelist
2009-12-25 19:51:56

But you’re still expecting an end to QE by the Fed, right?

Bwahahahaha! (FPSS)

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:27:40

It’s time for sheeple to start trusting again so Megabank, Inc can resume lucrative fleecing operations.

Mutual Funds Weekly
Dec. 24, 2009, 5:54 p.m. EST
By MarketWatch

What makes investing so difficult is that much of it is beyond our control. The fact is that individually we have no real say over the economy or the financial markets or the decisions that professional money managers make. Trust is all we have, and over the past couple of years that faith has been sorely tested.

It is time to trust again. Not because stocks are going up — who knows what will happen? It’s time to trust again because this time, we can be smarter.

This time, we’ll focus on the two elements of investing that we can control, namely portfolio allocation — how much we give to stocks, bonds, cash and other assets — and expenses, because you make only what you keep, and higher cost does not mean greater returns.

This time, we’ll be dedicated to rebalancing a portfolio, so that we don’t chase the hottest investments and instead follow an established formula to sell high and buy low. For many of us that will mean buying stocks when we’re skittish, casting off the security blanket of bonds. But this time we’ll go slowly, dollar-cost-averaging into stocks with a set amount every month or quarter, so that when the stock market takes another dive — as it invariably will –.our own will won’t be shaken to the core.

Last year at this time, people were rightly scared. We’re not out of the woods, but at least it’s clearer where we stand. It’s time now to focus on saving, spending and sharing. Trust your abilities, look ahead and get help if you need it.

Happy holidays to you and yours.

– Jonathan Burton, assistant personal finance editor

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 10:36:19

Been doing the rebalancing yearly the last ten years. It’s nice to see others are finally catching up. And with 56% of my assets in equities, I think that’s enough trusting I will do.

 
Comment by REhobbyist
2009-12-25 10:46:21

In 2007 we got rid of stocks in our retirement accounts. Last week we got rid of our bonds. Now we’re in cash, awating retirement.

Comment by laurel, md
2009-12-25 15:53:21

We did the same thing 2 and 3 years ago.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 15:36:01

Tested? I’ve hated banks for many, many years.

I used to like Savings & Loans after they cleaned up their mess, but they were all bought out in my area by WaMu, who were O.K. back in the 90s, but lost their mind this decade. I now use credit unions.

The stock market? Gamed and rigged. Doesn’t mean you can’t make money, but only if you know it’s rigged. You don’t even need to know how, just that it is.

Confidence? Bite me, tool.

 
Comment by technovelist
2009-12-25 19:55:22

Rebalancing a portfolio consisting entirely of stocks and bonds is like rebalancing the Titanic. Maybe you will be able to sink more evenly, but that’s about it.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2009-12-25 08:29:29

Merry Christmas to Ben & all HBB….

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 15:56:38

Merry Christmas, scdave. :)

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 08:30:55

Berkshire Eliminates 21,000 Jobs as Manufacturing, Retail Slump

(Bloomberg) — Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway Inc. reported 21,000 fewer employees than it had at the end of 2008 amid a slump at the firm’s manufacturing and retail units.

Berkshire and its subsidiaries have about 225,000 workers, the Omaha, Nebraska-based company said this week in regulatory filings. That’s 8.6 percent lower than the 246,083 disclosed in the 2008 annual report. Berkshire provided the jobs information in a document tied to its planned $26 billion takeover of railroad Burlington Northern Santa Fe Corp. Buffett didn’t reply to a request, left with an assistant, for comment on the cuts.

Buffett, Berkshire’s chief executive officer, oversees a collection of more than 70 subsidiaries that sell products including Geico car insurance, Fruit of the Loom T-shirts and Dairy Queen ice cream. Profit at the firm’s manufacturing, service and retail businesses plunged by more than half in the first nine months of the year, and Buffett replaced the CEOs of two operating units whose sales suffered in the recession.

“There’s a lot of businesses that have been struggling,” said Paul Howard, an analyst with Janney Montgomery Scott LLC’s Langen McAlenney division in Hartford, Connecticut. “I gotta believe all his managers are on their toes trying to figure out what to do.” Buffett didn’t respond to a request, left with an assistant, for comment on the job cuts.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:31:02

A Christmas Tradition Under Threat in Spain
Dec. 22, 2009

The annual giving of the Christmas cesta, or basket, to employees from their employers in Spain is facing some changes. The economic crisis here has many companies tightening their belts and that holiday extra this year may be less bountiful or nonexistent for some workers. Barbara Kollmeyer reports from Madrid.

 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 08:32:34

Bill Bonner enjoys Christmas as much as anyone else, but he doesn’t let the tinsel and lights completely replace the sense of gloom he feels when he surveys the present economic dilemma:

* The international monetary system, an experimental system built of paper dollars, may be falling apart.
* The US is losing its privileged place in the world. Americans compete with many other people in many other places for the world’s resources – including its savings.
* The days of cheap and bountiful energy are over.
* Governments are going broke. State governments. National governments. In Europe. In the Middle East. And in America.
* The engine of economic growth – Americans’ willingness to go into debt in order to consume more and more of the world’s output – has gone into reverse.
* And, governments are meddling on an unprecedented scale…delaying and avoiding necessary adjustments, possibly turning an ordinary depression into a Great Depression…or even a Much Greater Depression.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:36:48

Why is Bonner so gloomy? I guess he penned this column before he learned that Fannie and Freddie had their credit lines renewed?

Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 09:06:04

You’re right PB, the unlimited credit express is barreling down the tracks full steam. So all problems can be repaired by simply papering over them. Wonder how we ever got into our predicament in the first place? When all it requires is a few simple one’s and zero’s via computer key stroke.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2009-12-25 09:16:25

” * The days of cheap and bountiful energy are over.”

But only because of intervention by the stupid (or conniving, take your pick) governments of most of the developed nations.

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 10:17:23

Wmbz …Your post outlines what you get when you let the very culprits of the meltdown come up with the answers for the meltdown ,and that includes the Politicians that were bought and paid for .

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 15:58:28

+1

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 08:33:53

WASHINGTON – The Senate voted Thursday to raise the ceiling on the government debt to $12.4 trillion.

The Senate’s rare Christmas Eve vote, 60-39, follows House passage last week and raises the debt ceiling by $290 billion.

The bill permits the Treasury Department to issue enough bonds (borrow money) to fund the government’s operations and programs until mid-February. The Senate will vote again on the issue Jan. 20.

Talk about “kicking the can down the road!” Congress only bought a few weeks of breathing room before it must vote to push the debt ceiling much, much higher. Members may be counting on the public’s short attention span. 2010, after all, is an election year.

Comment by polly
2009-12-25 09:10:20

Quite the opposite. If you want to fly under the radar, you use Christmas Eve as an opportunity to raise the debt ceiling high enough to carry you through until August. When this one runs out, someone might actually be paying attention.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 08:33:58

Bankers to the rest of the world:

Let them eat cake.

Do Bankers Care About Their Reputation?
Dec. 22, 2009

Bankers often highlight their relationships with clients and markets as key to their success. Why, then, do they seem so reluctant to correct their worsening reputation?

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 16:07:03

Because they don’t need the endorsement or approval of the peons. That’s not where they make their money.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 16:20:06

I suppose Marie Antoinette had similar views, right up until the day they lost her head…

 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2009-12-25 16:45:31

Someone here once said (paraphased)
TBTF meet TSTM (too small to matter).

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 08:52:21

For consumers, a bit of cheer replaced gloom and doom this holiday season.By Ylan Q. Mui ~Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 25, 2009

After two years in financial turmoil, consumers have found a bit of holiday cheer this Christmas.

Shoppers are reporting that their personal finances are stabilizing, and they are spending a little bit more on holiday gifts than initially planned, according to surveys. Retail sales were surprisingly strong last month, with stores and credit card companies reporting increases in sales of electronics, shoes and jewelry.

Retail sales have begun to accelerate, surprising economists. Purchases of electronics, shoes and jewelry have risen, and online sales are shining.

Retail experts say consumers are still a long way off from a full-fledged recovery, and some key forecasts show sales declining over the course of the entire holiday season.

Many economists say that consumer spending cannot rebound without a turnaround in the job market. And while initial jobless claims fell last week to the lowest level in more than a year, the unemployment rate remains in double digits for the first time in 26 years. But analysts and shoppers acknowledge that the economy is no longer in free fall.

Comment by Spokaneman
2009-12-25 13:55:56

This is the fifth significant recession I’ve been through in my adult life. My first was 1971, just as I was graduating from College, then 1982, 1991, 2001 and now.

From my perspective, 1982 was probably the worst as I had the most responsibilities and the least amount of financial resources. In that one, I lost my job with a company I had been working for for 10 years, was newly married, had to leave town to find work, and had a house I couldn’t sell. But, it all worked out, and I learned a very valuable lesson about managing my personal finances.

I’ve learned that all recessions, regardless of how bad they seem, will end and hopefully as a society we will learn a valuable lesson from all of this.

Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 15:50:32

Good for you, but after 6 recessions in my lifetime, I can tell you our nation hasn’t learned a damn thing.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 08:55:29

Schumer Urges Wall Street Banks to ‘Get That Money Out There’

Dec. 25 (Bloomberg) –New York Senator Chuck U. Schumer warned Wall Street firms to “live up to your responsibilities” and increase lending, particularly to small businesses, while showing restraint on executives’ bonuses.

“Get that money out there,” Schumer said in an interview Dec. 23 on Bloomberg Television’s “Political Capital with Al Hunt,” airing this weekend. Banks should make sure the bonuses aren’t “excessive” and are based on merit, Schumer said. The position of firms such as Goldman Sachs Group Inc. that they didn’t need the government’s help to survive “is just false,” he said.

At the same time, reinstating the Depression-era Glass- Steagall Act that split investment and commercial banking should be considered, yet is “easier said than done,” he said. Last week, lawmakers including Senator John McCain proposed reinstating Glass-Steagall, which was struck in 1999 by the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act.

The repeal led to a rise in conglomerates including Citigroup Inc. that were allowed to branch into insurance and proprietary trading.

Comment by yensoy
2009-12-25 09:14:19

You don’t urge them Schumer, you call the bankers to your office and say “Get the money out there, bitch!”

http://www.politico.com/click/stories/0912/schumer_has_a_flight_to_forget_.html

Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-12-25 12:22:17

The bankers own Chuckie Schumer. He may engage in make-believe banker-bashing for the benefit of yahoos, but it’s smoke and mirrors. Kind of like Obama, whose campaign racked up $4 million in bankster donations, having his phony banker’s confab at the White House so he could allegedly read them the riot act (read: take dictation for their new demands to fleece the taxpayers).

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 16:10:53

Unfortunately, you’re exactly right, Sammy.

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Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 09:17:06

The Corpus Christi, Texas Police Department reports finding a man’s body in the Nueces River near Labonte Park . KYJ News 12-24-09

The dead man’s name has not been
released until his family has been notified.. The victim apparently drowned
due to excessive alcohol consumption. He was wearing black fishnet stockings, a red garter belt, a pink G-string, a strap-on dildo, purple lipstick, along with an
Obama for President in 2008 t-shirt. It was also noted that he had a cucumber in his rectum.

The police removed the Obama t-shirt to spare his family any unnecessary embarrassment.

In spite of what we sometimes think, the Police really do care.

Comment by In Montana
2009-12-25 13:36:41

Link - ? lol

Comment by Dave of the North
2009-12-25 20:34:37

And I suppose a couple of years ago it would have been a Bush T-shirt he was wearing…

Comment by Stpn2me
2009-12-26 01:02:41

LOL….so true..

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Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2009-12-25 09:31:05

http://www.321gold.com/editorials/benson/benson122409.html

Jingle Mail, Jingle Mail. ‘Tis the season to mail in your keys and walk.

 
Comment by reuven
2009-12-25 10:07:55

For the 49th year in a row, Santa Claus got me באָפּקעס , גאָרנישט!

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 10:10:55

We got a really great set of Politicians . They give blank checks and bail outs to these detestable Companies without making requirements for the bail outs . Than the Companies flaunt their bonuses in front of the World ,
and prove that they are as greedy and bad as we thought they were . Than
Schumer thinks he can make a requirement of these bail out criminals
after the fact by a verbal command ? You would of thought that any Politician with half a brain would of made the requirement in order for the Bailed out parties to get the money . I think all this grandstanding is just lip service to the public
anyway and the Politicians know darn well that these traitors bought them off a long time ago . It’s painful to watch .

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 10:28:44

The Financial Times
Deck the halls with shop-bought holly
Published: December 23 2009 20:09 | Last updated: December 23 2009 20:09

In 601, as England was being claimed by Roman Catholic missionaries, Gregory the Great, the Pope, wrote to Mellitus, one of his men on the frontline, with instructions to move slowly. He advised that some of the trappings of local pagan religions – such as animal sacrifices and temple buildings – should be preserved and respected by the incoming Church. “Whilst some outward gratifications are permitted them, they may the more easily consent to thee inward consolations of the grace of God.”

Gregory was probably not, however, advising that his disciples move so slowly that 1,408 years later the commemoration of Jesus Christ’s humble birth would still be celebrated across the Anglosphere with a heathen potlatch feast and rowdy Godless singing.

There is, after all, nothing Christian about hanging mistletoe – an ancient sacred plant – inside houses, hunting and gathering gifts, or ritually gorging on mulled wine, goose or turkey. Nowhere in the Bible is it suggested that God-fearing folk should eat Brussels sprouts as a Christmas-time penance for their sins.

Gregory was right to counsel leaving the older rites alone: Puritans attempted to purge the festival of its paganism in the 17th century – and prompted revolt. People who believe that Christmas should be more Christian are not being nostalgic: they are being radicals, hoping to silence the deep-felt echoes of an ancient culture.

However, one not need be a devout follower of Jesus Christ irritated by the slow progress of Gregory’s softly-softly approach to believe that there is something distasteful about Christmas. These days, celebratory lights appear in October and jingling songs become ubiquitous in November.

This lengthening of the festive season is not driven by evangelists hoping to use an extra-long celebration to spread a Christian message far and wide. Nor is it pushed by spear-carriers of the pagan gods who lost market share to the Christian incursion. The Christmas frenzy is driven by shopping chains that are keen to cash in on the holiday.

But give these soulless merchants some credit. By covering themselves in tinsel, antlers and baubles, and ramming Christmas down shoppers’ throats, they are doing their duty by their countries. At this time of extreme economic weakness, what could be more national-minded than encouraging people to spend their money on festive tat?

 
Comment by cactus
2009-12-25 11:12:56

A good dose of Christmas driving to remind me I’m back in S. CA they may drive better here over all but they drive rude

Too crowed I guess plus the roads suck

CA reminds me of my old Townhome used to be really nice but over time went broke and couldn’t afford to maintain the common areas even though the HOA fee went from 118 to over 500 a month in the 15 years I lived there. Who will pay top dollar for that Townhome now ? Who will pay top dollar to live in a state thats unable to maintain the roads, sewers, basic infrastructure. CA just like my old HOA always crying about being broke and raising the HOA.

Just thinking about the new year. Cheers everyone

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 12:20:46

Hi Cactus,

You’re in the Moorepark/Fillmore area aren’t you?

I remember one Christmas Day in AZ some of my sisters and I drove up to Sedona. There were a lot of other out-of-towners who had the same idea to be in Sedona that day. Almost all businesses were closed! All anyone could do was window shop. That meant almost all restrooms and restaurants were closed. We finally found restrooms in the heart of the shopping district. The restaurant we went to was not in the shopping district. The tables and chairs were cheap, but the food tasted good for hungry tourists.

I just got back from my Christmas Day walk to the closest grocery store here in LA. I was glad it was open. I found some potatos to go with salmon.

Beautiful sunny day in LA. Walking on the opposite side of my street I noticed how great my apartment complex looks. I haven’t determined what type of trees these are. They are over three stories tall and look slightly smaller than the Eucalyptus Camaldulensis - Red Gum trees along Torrance blvd near Torrance city hall. The views of the PV peninsula to the south always reminds me of being in the Silicon Valley area.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2009-12-25 16:54:12

Bill in Los Angeles
Common error, but there is no “e” in Moorpark. We owned a zero zone lot pos 2 story McMansion there. Nice to read you appreciate trees too.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2009-12-25 11:23:54

More BS from a brain dead retard named Reid.

Tanning Salons Say Tax Would Trigger Job Cuts, Store Closings.

Dec. 23 (Bloomberg) — A proposed tax on indoor tanning salons may trigger more job cuts, store closings and expansion into other tanning products, industry executives said.

The Senate plans to vote tomorrow on an $871 billion overhaul of the U.S. health-care system, and procedural votes suggest that the measure will pass. The legislation includes a 10 percent levy on indoor tanning salons, which replaced a previously proposed tax on cosmetic surgery.

“I don’t really have a game plan,” Dan Humiston, owner of Buffalo, New York-based Tanning Bed Inc., said Dec. 21 in a telephone interview. “I know I can’t absorb it. I may have to cut people, pare some costs to customers, close some stores.”

There are 18,000 to 20,000 places with tanning equipment in the U.S., according to John Overstreet, executive director of the Indoor Tanning Association. More than 90 percent are businesses owned by one person, said Humiston, who is also president of the Washington-based trade group. The tax will probably help drive more salons — already hurt by declines in consumer spending — into bankruptcy, he said.

The levy, proposed by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, could raise $2.7 billion over 10 years, according to an estimate by the Joint Committee on Taxation, a Washington-based nonpartisan congressional committee.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2009-12-25 12:04:07

How do you like Politicians that pick the winners and losers . Use to be that the market picked the winners and losers ,some call it supply and demand . Now we have these a-holes picking the winners and losers all
based on their twisted logic which often times rewards the self-interest groups that donate the most ,or it has to do with a bargain chip a
Politician has . Strange way to decide the merits of something .

In spite of the fact that there has always been interference by the Government ,I don’t think I have ever seen it so extreme as now . Way back in the fifties they started giving incentives for home ownership
and it became a big goal for people ,but that was when you had 40 year
careers with one Company and pension plans .

It’s clear that the right hand doesn’t act like it knows what the left hand is doing . The government can’t push home ownership in a World that they are also promoting Globalism and wage competition ‘and Company after Company is ridding itself of long term benefits and long term employees .These people are nuts .

Comment by polly
2009-12-25 13:09:02

Tanning has been in the cross hairs since that study came out that it is addictive and that teenagers were the ones most likely to get addicted. The last proposal was to require kids under 18 to have a parents permission since it increases your risk of cancer in future decades. Taxing just changes which ones go out of business. If it was the permission slip, the ones in upper middle class communities with helicopter parents would lose the most business and die out, assuming the rule was enforced at all. Taxing it kills the ones in communities with less disposable income and raises revenue from the other ones. If you were a politician with public health officials screaming at you to at least lower the amount of tanning going on in the area, which would you choose?

Comment by Spokaneman
2009-12-25 13:31:49

Makes you wonder where the brain trust in DC comes up with these ideas. I can just see the Politicos sitting around and one says “Eureka I’ve got it, we’ll tax tanning parlors!!!!”, and they all pat themselves on the back for a pure stroke of genius.

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Comment by In Montana
2009-12-25 13:40:50

Tanning is “addictive” - ?

I need to get out more.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2009-12-25 15:49:22

If they really wanted to get to root of a lot of our health problems, they would start taxing the crap out of soft drinks sweetened with corn sweeteners. (Corn sweeteners don’t improve the product, unless your view of “improved” is making it cheaper to manufacture, and improving your margins, at the expense of flavor, and increasing the caloric intake of your customers).

Especially Coca-Cola and Pepsi. Those guys are as bad as any ghetto crack dealers, when it comes to pushing for their customers to use more and more of their product. I read an interview of Coke’s CEO a few years back, in which he said their goal was to have Coke be the drink of choice for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Of course, they have buildings full of lawyers, writing the “use our product in moderation” disclaimers out of one side of their mouth, and cheerleading the “free choice” mantra out of the other.

Back in the early 70s, you could not buy soft drinks at school……milk or water was it. The soft drink makers kept pushing, and finally “bought off” the school boards by promising to pay a portion of the “profits” for school activities. Now, the students are addicted to the soft drinks, and the schools are addicted to the money.

At the same time, they have been increasing portion sizes; for example the 22 oz. drink at McDonalds used to be the “Large” size…..now the “Large” is 32 or 44 ounces.

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2009-12-25 17:07:16

X-GSfixr
If you want a wakeup call, read the cancer warning on the nutrition information chart (on the wall) at Mickey D’s.

 
Comment by DD
2009-12-25 20:36:10

If they really wanted to get to root of a lot of our health problems, they would start taxing the crap out of soft drinks sweetened with corn sweeteners. (Corn sweeteners don’t improve the product, unless your view of “improved” is making it cheaper to manufacture, and improving your margins, at the expense of flavor, and increasing the caloric intake of your customers).

The Corps like CokePepsi have indeed spent millions/billions so far on soft advertising saying this past Oct/Nov - “oh our poor little children won’t get to drink their fruit juices and beverages because of the nasty taxes”.
When in fact the high fructose corn syrup/Monsanto agricorps are instrumental in the fattening up of our food supply and pay $$$$$$$$$$$ for the subtle and not so subtle advertising.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 12:25:30

Tans can be nice if done gradually and without getting any sunburn ever!. My dad, although a blond of German descent, tanned easily and never got burned.

One tanning place I went to in New Jersey was the best. I never got any sunburn. I did it very gradually.

Nowadays I don’t do that. Fortunately people still tell me I look more than a decade younger than my age.

SPF 30 is my rule of thumb.

Comment by exeter
2009-12-25 13:03:23

Do you keep SPF30 in your purse?

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 13:48:51

Huh? Do I read a pea-brain attempt to call me a woman?

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Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 14:36:02

Bill:

I don’t usually comment on other peoples personal stuff. But the tanning,(spf 30) excel spreadsheets, gym etc. I swear you are my brothers twin. I mean i love my brother but he is also single with a paid off 3 bedroom house and no wife. he’s had the sports cars porche 911, at one time a T-bird, always had a modern convertible car…and yes he looks 10 years younger too.

Oh cant forget the show van with the 4 sided mural…that was one killer van!

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2009-12-25 16:21:35

And no one else here talks about themselves? Not even you?

Pardon me, I’m so mistaken.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 18:40:24

Yeah Bill just like my bro.

I told him 2 weeks ago to shut up about maybe losing his job in a few months. Your house is paid off, your taxes are like $400 a month, you have safe drivers, you could pay your bills with 2 weeks of unemployment checks and live off the other 2.

So you made some very good choices to ride out this mess, even I planned on a recession, but not to have the money spigot closed off so abruptly.

So just take in stride i know Ben moderates some of the stupid comments i made, and we all are just tired of this dragging on and on, I am so ready to work at a real job again and quit being a wedding dj but thankfully the referrals keep coming in. I sent out 4 contracts for 2010 this month just waiting on the deposits.

 
 
 
Comment by DD
2009-12-25 20:39:13

Just like the housing debacle and WS, we have lots of folks- not you BILA, that act as if there are NO consequences to actions.
Just like the 7 kids family who got 200k out of their now foreclosed home. Lots of uneducated folks or folks who won’t take responsibility for themselves or their actions.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 15:59:25

My god how will we ever live with less tanning salons?! The horror!

Don’t blame just the government. Remember, it was big business that embraced and encouraged “supply side” economics as well.

This is just one result.

And markets were never “self” adjusting. They have been and always will be manipulated by someone, somehow.

 
 
Comment by Spokaneman
2009-12-25 13:27:39

http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/527037.htm

The crux of the article is that the Pineapple industry on Maui is ending, to be replaced by (what else) Real Estate Development. 284 workers being laid off. Not great employment prospects on Maui these days. I don’t think many of these workers would do well hawking timeshares or working at the activity center.

Sad, damn sad.

I’ve spent many a day on Central Maui and have always enjoyed looking at the blue-green expanse of pineapple stretching up the hillsides. Just what Maui needs is more condos.

Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 16:06:52

Houston used to have a very large rice and sugar industry. Imperial Sugar was based here. Both are long gone. And every square mile of farmland (and we’re talking thousands) that surrounded Houston is now suburb and exoburb.

This, of course, increased the shipping costs of what was once grown right in the area.

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 16:23:40

First, they came after the smokers.

Then, they came after the “obese.”

Next, they’ll come after the tanning salon patrons.

Then…, motorcycle riders, hang gliders, runners, etc., etc.

See, it’s easy when someone’s picking on **someone else’s** vice. When they come after your particular vice, who will be left to defend your rights?

Tanning, whether naturally or in a tanning salon, greatly increases the risk of malignant melanoma (the lesser skin cancers, too). We need to tax them more to pay for their treatment, don’t we?
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Melanoma is the deadliest form of skin cancer and is the second most common cancer in women aged 20 to 29.

…While older adults are at higher risk for developing skin cancer, the incidence of skin cancer is rapidly rising in young adults aged 20 to 29. Experts attribute this to excessive tanning and the increased use of tanning beds.

http://skincancer.about.com/od/skincancerbasics/a/melanoma_young.htm

Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 22:33:38

That was supposed to go under the “tanning salon” tax thread, above.

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Comment by DD
2009-12-25 13:47:30

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To Ben, the HBB crowd and get well Ate and Ahansen.
And to Oly, oly oly oxen free.. come out come out wherever you are..!

I wish the very best to you all.
Take care Stpn.

Comment by Professor Bear
2009-12-25 16:17:18

Love the decorations!

 
Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 16:25:00

Merry Christmas, DD! :)

 
 
Comment by SUGuy
2009-12-25 14:12:11

Merry Christmas to Ben and all the contributors to this blog. Thank you for your efforts. Your brilliance is admired.

Stacked Deck Against Homeowners

Homeowners facing foreclosure who have been the victims of fraud have little hope of obtaining justice or financial restitution. That was the message of Lionel Ouellette, executive director of the New York City-based advocacy group Changer. He was speaking to a grim-faced group of about thirty Hispanic and African-American homeowners at a community center in the Brooklyn neighborhood of East New York last winter.

Nobody at the meeting had the resources to hire a lawyer for complex legal cases, said Ouellette, a 35-year-old former schoolteacher who became a housing counselor after falling victim to a scam that involved predatory loans and concealed damage in a house he purchased in 2001.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100111/ulam

Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 18:15:01

And that’s how it really works.

If you can’t afford a lawyer then it makes no difference that there was a law against what happened to you.

In Russia, you don’t retain lawyer, lawyer retains YOU!

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 14:19:42

Sorry for the long link…but guv pensions are next…

Why shouldn’t we demand that if people want a retirement check they actually are retired?

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/new_york_goes_broke_pension_by_pension_gQJHYAU1nBzBtcq1p1O5hM#ixzz0aPWxmmQ6

Comment by ecofeco
2009-12-25 16:15:19

I must have missed it. I didn’t see anything in the article about not being retired and collecting pension.

Comment by aNYCdj
2009-12-25 18:46:18

eco:

I guess what i meant is if you wanted a pension then you retire, If you get another full time job then you will get your pension at 65 and not before.

Most of the 20-25-30 year pension plans (retire at 50) were designed when very very few people lived to be 90 let alone 100.

Comment by Dave of the North
2009-12-25 21:03:19

Can’t see a law like that passing, though anything’s possible. What is possible is to ban or make “double-dipping” difficult. I.e. retiring on a government pension, then getting contract work for the gov.

Many years ago, a company I knew about had a buyout program where employees got a package to retire, then immediately were hired to stay in the same job at a higher contract rate! That gravy train ended a few years back.

The company I work for has a 18 month cooling off period - after you retire you can’t be brought in on a contract before that time expires. But they don’t try to stop you from getting a job somewhere else. Our pension plan ain’t that good. :)

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Comment by CA renter
2009-12-25 22:36:59

The reason they engage in “double-dipping” is because it actually saves the cities/states money.

When an employee retires with a full pension, if they are hired back, the govt only pays the standard wage, and doesn’t have to pay any benefits. They usually do this to help smooth employment gaps, and they can also eliminate some overtime this way.

So…even though it’s easy to get upset about the pensioner getting a pension and a wage, it’s cheaper than hiring a new person for the job.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Muggy
2009-12-25 18:26:52

Merry Christmas, you miserable, money-grubbing bastards.

Scrooge on!

Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2009-12-25 20:11:20

+1

 
 
Comment by skroodle
2009-12-25 22:01:27

Merry Christmas everyone!

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2009-12-26 06:03:22

Credit crunch: Home equity lending evaporates

By ADRIAN SAINZ
The Associated Press

Posted: 11:40 a.m. Friday, Dec. 25, 2009

Hocking the house for quick cash is a lot harder than it used to be, and it’s causing headaches for homeowners, banks and the economy.

During the housing boom, millions of people borrowed against the value of their homes to remodel kitchens, finish basements, pay off credit cards, buy TVs or cars, and finance educations. Banks encouraged the borrowing, touting in ads how easy it is to unlock the cash in their homes to “live richly” and “seize your someday.”

Now, the days of tapping your house for easy money have gone the way of soaring home prices. A quarter of all homeowners are ineligible for home equity loans because they owe more on their mortgage than what the house is worth. Those who have equity in their homes are finding banks far more stingy. Many with home-equity loans are seeing their credit limits reduced dramatically.

The sharp pullback is dragging on the economy, household budgets and banks’ books. And it’s another sign that the consumer spending binge that powered the economy through most of the decade is unlikely to return anytime soon.

At the peak of the housing boom in 2006, banks made $430 billion in home equity loans and lines of credit, according to the trade publication Inside Mortgage Finance. From 2002 to 2006, such lending was equal to 2.8 percent of the nation’s economic activity, according to a study by finance professors Atif Mian and Amir Sufi of the University of Chicago.

For the first nine months of 2009, only $40 billion in new home equity loans were made. The impact on the economy: close to zero.

“The home as ATM is yesterday,” says Keith Gumbinger, vice president of HSH Associates FinancialPublishers, which publishes consumer loan information.

Millions of homeowners borrowed from the house to improve their standard of living. Now, unable to count on rising home values to absorb more borrowing, indebted homeowners are feeling anything but wealthy.

Holly Scribner, 34, and her husband took out a $20,000 home equity loan in mid-2007 — just as the housing market began its swoon. They used the money to replace sinks and faucets, paint, buy a snow blower and make other improvements to their home in Nashua, N.H.

The $200 monthly payment was easy until property taxes jumped $200 a month, the basement flooded (causing $20,000 in damage) and the family ran into other financial difficulties as the recession took hold. Their home’s value fell from $279,000 to $180,000. They could no longer afford to make payments on either their first $200,000 mortgage or the home equity loan.

Scribner, who is a stay-at-home mom with three children, avoided foreclosure by striking a deal with the first mortgage lender, HSBC, which agreed to modify their loan and reduce payments from $1,900 a month to $1,100 a month. The home equity lender, Ditech, refused to negotiate. Scribner’s husband, Scott, works at an auto loan financing company but is looking for a second job to supplement the family’s income.

The family is still having trouble making regular payments on the home-equity loan. The latest was for $100 in November.

“It was a huge mess. I ruined my credit,” Holly Scribner says. “We did everything right, we thought, and we ended up in a bad situation.”

It’s a mess for the banking industry, too.

Home equity lending gained popularity after 1986, the year Congress eliminated the tax deduction for interest on credit card debt but preserved deductions on interest for home equity loans and lines of credit. Homeowners realized it was easier or cheaper to taptheir home equity for cash than to use money taken from savings accounts, mutual funds or personal loans to fund home improvements.

Banks made plenty of money issuing these loans. Home equity borrowers pay many of the costs associated with buying a home. They also may have to pay annual membership fees, account maintenance fees and transaction fees each time a credit line is tapped.

In 1990, the overall outstanding balance on home equity loans was $215 billion. In 2007, it peaked at $1.13 trillion. For the first nine months of 2009, it’s at $1.05 trillion, the Federal Reserve said. Today, there are more than 20 million outstanding home equity loans and lines of credit, according to First American CoreLogic.

But delinquencies are rising, hitting record highs in the second quarter. About 4 percent of home equity loans were delinquent, and nearly 2 percent of credit lines were 30 days or more overdue, according to the most recent data available from the American Bankers Association.

A rise in home-equity defaults can be particularly painful for a bank. That’s because the primary mortgage lender is first in line to get repaid after the home is sold through foreclosure. Often, the home-equity lender is left with little or nothing.

Banks are applying the brakes.

Bank of America, for example made about $10.4 billion in home equity loans in the first nine months of the year — down 70 percent from the same period last year, spokesman Rick Simon says. The also started sending letters freezing or cutting lines of credit last year, and will disqualify borrowers in areas where home prices are declining.

“This was just solid risk management,” he says.

Jeffrey Yellin is in the middle of remodeling his kitchen, dining room, living room and garage at his home in Oak Park, Calif. He planned to pay for the project with his $200,000 home equity line of credit, which he took out in January 2007 when his house was valued at $750,000.

In October, his lender, Wells Fargo, sent a letter informing him that his credit line was being cut to $110,000 because his home’s value had fallen by $168,000, according to the bank.

He is suing the bank, alleging it used unfair standards to justify its reduction, incorrectly assessed the property value, failed to inform customers promptly and used an appeals process that is “oppressive.” Jay Edelson, a lawyer in Chicago who is representing Yellin, says homeowners are increasingly challenging such letters in court. He says he’s received 500 calls from upset borrowers.

Wells Fargo declined to comment on Yellin’s lawsuit but said it reviews of customers’ home equity lines of credit to make sure that account limits are in line with the borrowers’ ability to repay and the value of their homes.

“We do sometimes change our decisions when the customer provides sufficient additional information,” Wells Fargo spokeswoman Mary Berg said in a statement e-mailed to The Associated Press.

Work has stopped at the Yellin’s home. The backyard, used as a staging area for the remodeling job, is packed with materials and equipment.

“Now, I’ve got a backyard that looks like ‘Sanford and Son’ almost,” he says.

 
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