HBB Rates The Media: North-West
We continue to review the media; in the north-west.
The good:
The Oregonian, May 2005: “Portland’s median home price has grown from $170,100 in 2000 to $210,000 at the end of 2004. By the end of March, it had surged again, to $223,000, according to the Regional Multiple Listing Service. That’s a 31 percent gain since 2000.”
“The average monthly Portland rent over the same period dropped 14 percent, to $704 from $801. Vacancies at some apartments are at 20-year highs.”
“Brad Vincent, president-elect of the Portland Metropolitan Association of Realtors says, ‘You’ll lose the chance for potential growth and tax benefits. Overall, the benefits for owning are clearly better.’” Realtor Brian Pienovi agrees, ‘Our appreciation is real, 10 percent. If you figure that on a $250,000 home, that’s $25,000 in one year.’”
“Jim Straub, a Eugene owner of rental houses and duplexes said, ‘I see an advantage to selling my home now because the market is red hot, people are paying ridiculous prices for property. “If your goal is to buy low and sell high, you should get out while the getting’s good.’”
May 2005: “My wife and I have a particular interest. Since last winter, we’ve had plans to sell our house, and we’ve been gussying it up for a summer sale.”
“We love that our house has appreciated so much in value since we bought it in 1999. We’re less excited that everyone else’s homes have gone up so quickly with it. The rise is dizzying, as is the calculation of whether we’ll be able to sell our home and afford another. Could we be the ones left standing with no home when the market crashes? Or worse, what happens if we take on an inflated mortgage, only to see a market correction in the next year?”
“If this is a mortgage bubble, when will it burst and by how much? What will happen to the value of my house?”
“I would hate to see us make our move just when the bubble bursts and lose all we’ve worked so hard for. But whether we are the ones to get caught, or someone just like us a year from now, the signs look unmistakable: The housing market will stall out. When it does, and the game of musical homes stops, someone will be left with an overpriced home. I sure hope it’s not us.”
The Columbia Tribune, April 2005: “Gloria Curtis said Duncan recently hired her to do telemarketing. She received no training on processing loans before she was assigned a calling list (and) was promised $2 for every Social Security number she obtained from a client over the phone. But Curtis said she lost her job because she hadn’t gotten any numbers in her first two days.”
The Tri-City Herald, May 2005: “As occupancy rates drop in the Tri-Cities, renters are getting move-in incentives and a choice of amenities. Vacancy rates, which averaged about 3 percent in 2002, increased to 9 percent in Richland, 11 percent in Kennewick and 8 percent in Pasco.”
“Pasco’s vacancy rates will probably catch up soon. Permits have been issued for three new apartment buildings at Chapel Hill that will add 668 units, bringing the city’s total number 1,959. ‘There was a lack of complexes in Pasco, but now that’s taken care of,’ Sylvia Erickson said.”
“The average price for a two-bedroom in Richland is $667, compared with $708, the average price in spring 2003. The average rent for a one-bedroom Kennewick apartment is about $486. In Richland, it’s $563, and in Pasco it’s $524.”
“Those selling include San Francisco-based developer Robert Young, who has placed his eight properties on the market. ‘I’m bullish on the Tri-Cities. I’ve always been bullish on the Tri-Cities.’ So why is he selling his eight apartment buildings? Young said he wants to devote his energy to a commercial development he is building.”
“It could be one of the best times to sell an apartment building in the Tri-Cities, said David Eagle. (He) said many investors are turning away from primary markets like Seattle, Portland and Los Angeles, where real estate prices are extremely high and the opportunity for growth limited. He said they’re looking more seriously at ’secondary’ markets.”
The Seattle Times, May 2005: “Paul Galasso quit his Costco management job to join his wife, Evelyn, as a full-time real-estate investor. He and his wife have spent more than $20,000 on investor ‘boot camps’ and seminars to learn how to make deals. Galasso said he knows people just like him in Georgia, Texas, California and beyond now investing in residential property.”
“Galasso and his wife fired their financial planner and shifted 75 percent of their retirement resources from regular equities and mutual funds held in a traditional IRA into a ’self-directed’ IRA that they can use to fund real-estate deals. ‘In real estate I can do a lot to increase the price and value of my holdings, which isn’t true of having stock in some large company,’ Galasso said. ‘By the end of this year, we’ll be doing two to three homes a month.’”
“And he doesn’t regret leaving his management job. “This is so much better than being in a cubicle.’”
“Michelle Dickerhoof, quit her corporate-affairs job at Starbucks last fall to collaborate full time with her contractor husband to find fixers to invest in. She’s just secured a home-equity line of credit on her primary home to pay for the new properties. She expects the two properties she’s eyeing could be resold for around $400,000 after they’re fixed up.”
“Jeff Wolfson, a residential land-development specialist at Skyline Properties in Kent, is researching investment opportunities for himself and clients. Wolfson, who has been in the industry for nearly 20 years, says many investors are overextending themselves on the assumption that the market will remain favorable. He believes low interest rates contribute to this, he said. ‘I’ve been in the industry long enough to see how it operates in cycles. I believe the market right now is in a bubble, people are putting 10 percent or 5 percent or zero down, or they’re taking adjustable rate mortgages, but then one day their renters can’t afford the rent, and the owners aren’t prepared for that.’”
The Seattle PI. May 2005: “Like thousands before them, Tom, 44, and his wife, Clare Cronkleton, 43, had grasped at home ownership as their ticket to the solid middle ranks of the middle class. The couple made the leap even on their relatively modest incomes, each in the $40,000 range, and with no money down. It took a second piggyback mortgage at a steep 15 percent interest rate to pull off the sale. (Then) their 8-year-old son, came down with a mysterious, flulike illness. In the summer of 2004, Tom lost his job.”
“They had already refinanced their mortgage at a lower interest rate to cut their payments and drawn out what little equity they had accrued. Tom says, ‘As long as things were going good, it was OK.’”
“They listed their house last winter (and) sold in a hurry for $300,000. By the time all the closing costs and commissions were figured, however, they still owed the bank money. The bank finally relented and agreed to a ’short sale’.”
“People have been buying on the very edge of their ability to afford a home,” says Glenn Crellin, at Washington State University. ‘People are (getting in at) a below-average rate, and they run the risk. We may see some households no longer able to afford the houses they’re in.’”
The bad:
New York Times, May 2005: “Paul and Ann Hill, a pair of retired Atlantans, stopped in Ashland, Ore., in 2001. Their only plans involved dinner and a play at the long-running Oregon Shakespeare Festival. “We came into this town one day and bought a house the next.”
“In the first three months of 2005, 91 homes were sold in Ashland. The median home price of those sales, $403,700, represented an increase of 32 percent over the first quarter of 2004.”
“‘People come there to see a play, and they fall in love with the town,’ said Roy Wright, an appraiser. ‘And they walk in one of those real-estate offices downtown and buy a house.’”
“Like many Ashland newcomers, Davis hails from the San Francisco Bay Area. ‘It’s not if you came from California, but when you came from California,’ he said.”
“The influx of outsiders seeking second homes has had an explosive effect on housing prices. An example is Taos, where the value of residential real estate sold in 2004 was nearly twice the value of that sold three years earlier.”
The Seattle Times, May 2005: “Fuel for speculation of a housing bubble, but not proof of one, increased yesterday on a report that strong buyer demand has pushed Central Puget Sound prices up 10 percent or more over last spring’s already high numbers.”
“But those numbers were modest compared with other metropolitan areas. San Diego home prices shot up 37 percent last year. Las Vegas’ soared 52 percent, and Miami reported a 26 percent. Those markets could see price corrections, some experts surmise. ”
“‘Nine or 10 percent appreciation is certainly more sustainable than 25 percent, so in your market, I don’t think there’s a bubble,’ said Steve Smiley, a principal at Hanley Wood Market Intelligence, a housing-market research firm headquartered in California. ‘Seattle has been a decent market, but not a great market, and you still have room for prices to move up.”
“Coldwell Banker Bain broker Dick Fulton concurs. The 1990s ‘mini bubble’ was the last time the Seattle area saw anything close to a real downturn, Fulton said. That was precipitated by a 41 percent increase in housing values from the fourth quarter of 1989 through the first quarter of 1990. That’s an 82 percent annual increase.”
“‘That kind of extreme increase in prices necessitated a correction,’ Fulton said.”
“Realtor Brian Pienovi agrees, ‘Our appreciation is real, 10 percent. If you figure that on a $250,000 home, that’s $25,000 in one year.’”
Funny/sad part is that millions of people think that appreciation like that is sustainable infinitely. Because it’s different where they are, and millions still think the return to those “halcyon” days are going to return any minute now.
Not going to happen, reality is a bitter pill that many folks just don’t think they should have to swallow.
“… and millions still think the return to those ‘halcyon’ days are going to return any minute now.”
These are the folks that will struggle to keep up with their mortgage payments, a good thing for the rest of us, IMO.
The banks need money; better that the banks get money from FBs rather than from the rest of us.
Keep hope alive and learn to love the NAR.
(And bring on the HBB flames.)
“These are the folks that will struggle to keep up with their mortgage payments, a good thing for the rest of us, IMO.”
Speak for yourself. This is NOT a good thing. This steals money from the economy, and enslaves people in debt. It’s actually a terrible thing, and everyone would be better served by these people walking away if they cannot sell the home. It equates to lower house prices which is a boon to the economy.
Our appreciation is real ??
Talk to me a couple of years from now when 1st mortgages are @ 7% +…
We are gonna see these once high-flying Investor Pigeons trying to hang on and fight a return to earth with their little beaks and claws for years to come.
It isn’t nice to have your feathers suddenly clipped in mid-air, especially when you think you should be soaring carefree with the eagles at 5,000 feet.
Gimmie a “SQUAWK” and a “SPLAT”
This beats James Watt’s “6% is in the bag”.
Did “10% is in the bag” Brian Pienovi warn about the housing crash ?
Prof,
Norwegian stock? Yes. But from another village
loaded with bright people!
How will this affect the housing prices?
The Obama administration’s latest lifeline to Fannie and Freddie will cover unlimited losses through 2012, lifting an earlier cap of $400 billion. It also eases restrictions on the size of the companies’ investment portfolios. That’s a reversal of the Bush administration’s September 2008 plan to shrink the size of the companies’ holdings of mortgage-backed securities.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/12/30/financial/f135122S89.DTL#ixzz0bTI45iW0
“I would hate to see us make our move just when the bubble bursts and lose all we’ve worked so hard for.
What hard work! She just stated it was a bubble?
we’ve worked so hard for ??
we’ve = Government subsidy…
The lie that these pukes actually worked for something is OBSCENE. As WMBZ mentioned above, the reality that EVERYONE will have to work for and earn their retirement is a fact that is not going away.
I’ll spell it out for you lurking desperado’s considering you’re too stupid to follow through with the thought…. the fantasy equity you equated with a pot of gold doesn’t exist. It never did nor will it ever in the future. I can build a shack myself that is nicer than yours and it will never finance a thing. Not a car, not a vacation and most certainly not 20 years of living expenses. Now don your smock and gettin back to fryer.
In December, Paul Galasso quit his Costco management job to join his wife, Evelyn, as a full-time real-estate investor.
The leap from salaried manager at a $48 billion public company to residential real-estate entrepreneur wasn’t impulsive, Galasso said. …
Galasso is a member of the Real Estate Association of Puget Sound, or REAPS, a nonprofit real-estate education group that has tripled its membership to 900 since 2003.
Moral of the story: don’t quit your day job. Costco is supposed to treat their employees well. I’ll bet poor old Paul Gasso can’t get his old job back in today’s market.
I guess REAPS really put the “nonprofit” into real estate speculation.
Oy veh. REAPS is still talking like it’s 2005.
http://www.memberize.com/ClubPortal/EventDisplayNew.cfm?clubID=173&eventID=109347
Anybody live near Seattle and want to go laugh at this bozo?
Evil DenisN, evil lol
There are only 592 spots left available at this high value confab. Purchase your tickets now or be priced out forever!
I’m hereby starting Society of Whining Suckers (SOWS) in preparation of an endless media parade of ex-REAPS “victims” who are going to play and lose in the ponzi real estate “revival.” All of these bagholders will start their tale of woe by claiming to be manipulated and deceived.
“We love that our house has appreciated so much in value since we bought it in 1999. We’re less excited that everyone else’s homes have gone up so quickly with it.”
How dare those other homes appreciate as fast as ours! Our house is special considering we got it all gussied up for summer sale.
“Gussied up”…those people watch way too many Yosemite Sam cartoons.
“Paul Galasso quit his Costco management job to join his wife, Evelyn, as a full-time real-estate investor. He and his wife have spent more than $20,000 on investor ‘boot camps’ and seminars to learn how to make deals. Galasso said he knows people just like him in Georgia, Texas, California and beyond now investing in residential property.”
“Galasso and his wife fired their financial planner and shifted 75 percent of their retirement resources from regular equities and mutual funds held in a traditional IRA into a ’self-directed’ IRA that they can use to fund real-estate deals. ‘In real estate I can do a lot to increase the price and value of my holdings, which isn’t true of having stock in some large company,’ Galasso said. ‘By the end of this year, we’ll be doing two to three homes a month.’”
“And he doesn’t regret leaving his management job. “This is so much better than being in a cubicle.’”
Too bad we don’t have the follow up story. I wonder if Paul would read this quote today and wonder wtf he was thinking?
Sorry…Did not see DennisN already commented on the same rocket scientist.
BUT, your question is a good one (what’s Paul doing now).
AND, it has an answer of sorts. Google “paul galasso seattle” and you find he has a website. Seems he now runs marketing seminars or something. Bet he doesn’t make as much money that way as he did in the Costco “cubicle,” but he may be sort of getting by, on BS. Maybe he can at least make back the $20K mentioned by mikey below.
I checked it out…thanks. He sure is peddling some BS and his content seems a bit dated. Not sure how many are lining up to pay big bucks for real estate investing seminars these days, but I continually underestimate the gullibility of our populace.
He and his wife have spent more than $20,000 on investor ‘boot camps’ and seminars to learn how to make deals.
Sheesh…Here at Ben’s On-line Academy for the Criminally Insane Fence Sitters and Renters, we get free laughs, the daily news, a HBB T-Shirt and comprehensive advice on HOW TO AVIOD those deals…for a lot, lot less money!
I think My t-shirt got lost in the mail. Or paypal doesn’t notify our leader! Either way, was glad to have a few scheckles to donate.
Sorry, paypal doesn’t give me anything but a name. If you want a shirt, send me an email with the address, size and color preference.
Everyone who ordered a shirt should have received it by now, so if you haven’t, just let me know and I’ll send another one.
Hi Ben. I figured I would ask at the next HBB if it is in CA!
Hope all is well.
Yeah Ben…We hope that you and your family had a great Xmas Holiday and that you had some free time to kick back and watch a football game or something do something you all enjoyed.
I was watching a flipper show earlier today. Some dip$hit from Texas was flipping some crapshack in California. (his first “flip”).
This jackhole made every mistake you could possibly make. Then compounds it by asking way over market for the house. If anyone deserved the Joshua Tree treatment, it was this guy.
Sells it and clears $120K, for 2-3 months “work”.
God is not on our side.
OK, I’m going to ask you to exercise a little critical thinking here. A guy from Texas walks into the hardest hit state in the worst market in history and flips a house for 120k in 3 months? This is while hundreds of thousands of people are getting wiped out all over the place?
Are you sure this wasn’t an old show? And if the guy did pull this off, there should be a show about it cuz it’s a freaking miracle! Anybody who makes a huge profit flipping in the biggest decline ever should be in the book of world records.
Or maybe it’s that you can’t believe everything you see on TV.
It was a very very old episode, even 3-4 yrs ago++
Even so, it does fry one, doesn’t it!
Argggggggggg
True…….but the fact that this kind of crap was happening at all just depresses the hell out of me.
We have been (and continue) to subsidize stupidity in this country, and it’s just getting worse.
Be it North, South, East or West, it AIN”T gonna be any different there.
“As time passes, more people will recognize the severity of how under water they are, and that things are not going to turn around quickly,” Crawford said
Wisconsin
2009 foreclosures set another record in Wisconsin
By Paul Gores of the Journal Sentinel
Posted: Jan. 2, 2010
Wisconsin posted its second consecutive year of record foreclosure filings in 2009 as job cuts made it difficult for more homeowners to keep up with their monthly mortgage payments.
Preliminary figures show there were 30,624 foreclosure filings in the state last year, up almost 20% from a record 25,541 in 2008, Madison-based ForeclosureAlarm.com, which tracks foreclosures through court documents, reported Saturday.
Experts said unemployment and underemployment are chiefly to blame for the continuing rise in foreclosure filings. The unemployment rate, which stood at 8.2% in Wisconsin during November, needs to improve before foreclosures will begin to decline, they said.
…Leibowitz was skeptical that the U.S. government’s $75 billion mortgage modification program would have a lasting impact in cutting foreclosures. Under the program, lenders reduce monthly payments by refinancing or restructuring mortgages.
“I think it’s been a great deception and disappointment for everybody because not that many people end up getting permanent mortgage modifications,” Leibowitz said.
Foreclosures could increase in the first half of 2010, said Philip Crawford, founder of ForeclosureAlarm.com. One reason: As declines in home prices linger and people owe more on their mortgage than the property is worth, they might just give up on making payments.
“As time passes, more people will recognize the severity of how under water they are, and that things are not going to turn around quickly,” Crawford said.
http://tinyurl.com/ye27bk3
No where was the real estate bubble pumped more than in Bend, Or, cuz in Bend we’re different. The Bend Bulletin should be shot, drawn and quartered.
Gloria Curtis said Duncan recently hired her to do telemarketing. She received no training on processing loans before she was assigned a calling list (and) was promised $2 for every Social Security number she obtained from a client over the phone.
There’s something so fishy about this.
Who in their right mind would give their SSN over the phone to an unknown telemarketer placing a “cold call”?