January 4, 2010

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Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 05:53:33

This could be a busy real estate month for me. I’m hoping that some good foreclosure deals will appear this week next. If they don’t, we’ll wait until next year.

Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 06:07:08

Or the year after.

(Hint: Take a glance at the mortgage reset chart.)

Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 06:27:35

Correct. Patience pays.

Comment by mikey
2010-01-04 07:41:07

All hemorrhaging is controlable…Eventually. Even in RE.

Let the bigger Fools bleed out, die off and then buy their Houses.

DON’T replace them !
;)

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 10:27:56

I beg to differ. Uncontrollable hemorrhaging can and has previously resulted in death.

 
Comment by mikey
2010-01-04 10:49:23

Ha ha ha PB !

You’re as sharp as a tack this morning…nothing gets by you !

“Tag them and Bag Them”

Drowned or bled out…either way, they all go down to the same RE victim’s morgue.
:)

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:44:08

Impatience costs.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2010-01-04 10:23:40

Combo, I’ve been studying the Option ARM graph as well. A few interesting things to consider that is making me scratch my head a bit:

1. Option ARM default rate is approximately 30%;
2. Only approximately 20% of Option ARMs have reset;
3. Many of the Option ARMs are resetting at an accelerated pace due to the negative am “feature”;
4. The average size of Option ARM loans is much higher than subprime.

I’m not saying that the reset chart isn’t going to cause a lot of pain, but at least 1/3 of that pain has already happened (30% have defaulted, and it won’t go to 100%), and the rest of the defaults are going to represent a relatively few number of borrowers/homes as compared to the subprime mess.

The Option ARM resets are going to hit higher end/higher priced homes more than the low end. If you are buying low end homes, you are probably OK. If you are buying higher priced homes, patience makes sense (I’m still renting).

Take a look at the T2 Partners, LLC report (do a Google search). There is an update to the report from late November. It includes all things housing.

Comment by cougar91
2010-01-04 17:03:51

I posted a few months ago the MBS behind Optional-ARMs suggest a default rate to 40%+ already, not 30%. So defaults are already occurring as we speak, it doesn’t have to wait until that reset chart hits the peak.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2010-01-04 18:14:56

I missed that post, but it sounds like you and I are on the same page. Seems like this is pointing more directly to a “muddle through” situation rather than a “double-dip” situation.

I am concerned about too much liquidity coming into the market too quickly following the initial phases of job creation, causing perhaps a double-dip stock market correction.

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 17:57:30

Rental Watch -
Thanks a bunch for the tip about T2 Partners. I’ll give it a serious look when I get some time. From a quick scan it looks as if these folks have really got their act together.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2010-01-04 18:13:03

A lot of good data. Combined, I think pages 32, 72, 153, 158 speak volumes about the Option ARM situation. I was previously advocating major further disruption during 2010-2012 based on the reset graph, but after looking at this, I think the pain is already upon the market.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-01-04 06:08:57

The $8K tax credit and low interest rates are against you right now. It’s currently a seller’s market.
In October the Democrats might lose both houses and the money spigot gets turned off…well at least that’s what I hope. Along with higher interest rates and more pent up foreclosures the damn will break eventually. I would guess sometime in 2011 it will be the mother of all buyer’s markets. Foreclosures galore and low prices. There’ll be many “cash only” deals out there, so come prepared.
I have my house under contract right now, hope it doesn’t fall apart in the last minute. First time buyer all excited about the $8
K tax credit. Plans to put a whopping 3.5% down with FHA loan. I plan to rent for a year or so, until government/FED support of the housing market dries up. I am somewhat convinced that gubermint has to run out of funds at one time or another, or can they keep up trillion $$ deficits indefinitely?

Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 06:12:21

“First time buyer all excited about the $8K tax credit.”

People are smart.

Lol.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-01-04 06:16:28

Pay $30K above market just so they can “cash in” on the $8K credit. As I said, a seller’s market.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 08:31:33

No, the market may have shifted 30k because of the 8k credit, but they’re not paying “above market.” The market is, what the market is. It is affected by many things, government intervention, credit availability, irrational exuberences and fears. Many of us would agree that the current market puts real prices on RE that unsustainable in the long term. But that’s what the market IS, an aggregation of CURRENT supply and demand, it only reflects the future as seen by market participants. And the stock market shows that estimates of the future have a way of changing very quickly.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:19:42

“I am somewhat convinced that gubermint has to run out of funds at one time or another, or can they keep up trillion $$ deficits indefinitely”?

“They” can keep right on pumping, but indefinitely will come to an end. Although many people believe it can continue and are counting on it.

Comment by WHYoung
2010-01-04 07:11:58

The same folks believed housing prices would go up indefinitely, so belief in another impossible thing seems like just what you’d expect from them.

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Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 06:30:20

Mike, think about what you just said.

“It’s a seller’s market.”

Please.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-01-04 06:39:06

Yes, you have buyers that are bribed with $8K incentives, can get low interest rates and put only 3.5% down.
So it’s pretty easy to be a buyer (with borrowed money) right now, easy money (OK, not as easy as 2005, but historically still very easy), low interest and some perverse government incentives.
Once interest rates go up and pent up foreclosures will flood the market what do you think that will do for private sellers? Do you think I want to compete against the 2 (out of 13 properties) foreclosures on my block alone? Add to that another financial panik and tight credit and it will be the mother of all buyer’s market for those that have cash. Deadbeats with 3.5% down will be shut out, so I don’t have to compete against a bunch of buyers with borrowed money.

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Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 12:35:23

Mike, I wasn’t suggesting that you not sell. I’m just saying that the term “seller’s market” died 2-3 years ago.

I also wouldn’t say that we are in a buyer’s market! Seller’s attitudes and prices are still unrealistic, making life difficult for sensible buyers.

We’re in a crap market.

 
 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:49:33

It is a seller’s market where we live (San Diego area).

For example, we went to look at a house on New Year’s Day, late in the afternoon when it was almost dark. You’d think we hit upon a house party. There were at least 5-6 other parties there looking at the house. The neighbors were standing around in awe (I’m thinking they represent some of that “pent-up” supply, and this kind of activity might prompt some to add more inventory).

Inventory is high, speculation and flipping are rampant, down payments are negligible, the govt is passing out tax credits and subsidies like halloween candy, cash-back deals are back, and interest rates are low. We are in the middle of an echo bubble. Do not believe the stories about a slow market. You have to get out there on the streets to see what’s going on. The market is on fire!

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Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:51:10

Correction: Inventory is **LOW** (very, very low)

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-01-04 08:40:14

Funny. I look on craigslist and I see an assload of distressed homes for sale in San Diego along with anywhere else I check in this country. Hard to propagate bs when realiy is just an easy click away for the entire world (ok, maybe not China) to see. I think the house you went to just had really good fresh-baked cookies.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:47:26

What, exactly, constitutes inventory in your part of the SD market? Because I see lots and lots of expensive houses on my way to work every day, and given what I know about stagnant wages in the SD economy over the past decade, and the recent spike in unemployment, I truly have no idea how so many people can afford their $500K plus alligators.

But I suppose we should just accept the inventory numbers the REIC serves up without asking pesky questions, and take that as a sign that it is time to invest before we get short-squeezed out of San Diego real estate investing opportunities forever?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:48:45

“Funny. I look on craigslist and I see an assload of distressed homes for sale in San Diego along with anywhere else I check in this country.”

I suppose ‘fire sales’ could be a natural consequence of a market that is ‘on fire’?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:51:22

“We are in the middle of an echo bubble.”

I realize that it may be different this time, but historically, echo bubbles have preceded echo crashes.

 
Comment by Lane from s.c.
2010-01-04 09:08:00

Yea…looking on zillow there a couple of thousand homes for sale in SD.

 
Comment by San Diego RE Bear
2010-01-04 16:51:13

San Diego is a huge county and there are definitely less desirable areas that have very large inventories. But the desirable neighborhoods are still radically overpriced yet still selling like hotcakes in the under $800,000 market. There are a lot of sales happening in the low end right now (and coastal the low end is anything under $700,000) and it really does feel like we are back in bubble land.

I’m not even considering looking seriously until 2012 because I think I would become so discouraged by how fast decent homes go that I would buy into a neighborhood I don’t want to spend 10 years in just to get a home. (Plus I am still debating even staying in California.) But I can wait as I am not trying to raise kids, could not care less about the school district I rent in, and really like the freedom of being able to leave CA if things get worse.

I was hoping the bump in sales and prices the past few months was due to the credit and pent-up demand. However, if things are still hoping this year it just proved the kool-aid is being served as strong as ever. 

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 22:38:45

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-01-04 08:40:14
Funny. I look on craigslist and I see an assload of distressed homes for sale in San Diego along with anywhere else I check in this country. Hard to propagate bs when realiy is just an easy click away for the entire world (ok, maybe not China) to see. I think the house you went to just had really good fresh-baked cookies.

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I’m not propagating b.s., Not by a long shot. The house we checked out — an R.E.O. — is fairly reasonably priced, but it is NOT a “screaming deal.” I grew up in a real estate family, and am native to Southern California. I’ve watched the RE market for decades, and know very well what I’m talking about. Inventory is LOW, buyers are buzzing like flies on sh!t, and things are just as crazy as during the peak of the mania.

Don’t believe me? Get out there and see for yourself.

True, very overpriced stuff sits, but houses in coastal cities that are priced at 2003-2005 levels (very much near peak in San Diego, as we were ahead of the pack), are flying off the shelf if they aren’t total crap shacks. Lower end homes have seen rising prices this entire year.

This is a bubble. Yes, this will crash, IMHO; but for now, we are very much in a sellers’ market. If I had houses to sell, I’d be selling hand-over-fist in this market.

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 22:43:02

Note: during the lowest inventory levels in San Diego County in spring of 2004, we had between 3,000 and 4,000 homes (IIRC). When we had the highest levels of inventory for this cycle, in 2007 (IIRC), we had above 20,000 homes on the market. Right now, there are around 8,000 houses last I heard. We are much closer to the lows than to the highs.

BTW, I was one of the first to suggest there was a large overhang of “shadow inventory” a couple of years ago. I do not think we are going to be “priced out forever.” Still, the market is what it is **today** and that means we have a very hot, sellers’ market.

 
 
 
Comment by jess
2010-01-04 06:34:25

If the Republicans win in Nov. it’s each one for themself time again .The GOP has never been able to do anything construtive , when they got into power . At least not since Reagen was President . That is because they are so easily corrupted . A shame , as they have good ideas right up to when they get elected .

Comment by 2banana
2010-01-04 07:18:29

I seem to remember balanced budgets and welfare reform when republicans controlled congress with clinton as prez.

Maybe divided government is the best government…

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Comment by polly
2010-01-04 07:58:32

This group of Republicans will not work with this president. Just not in the cards. The Republicans worked with Clinton because he was working on their priorities, though probably not doing it exactly the way they would have preferred. There was enough overlap to work with. Plus, deep down, there was some feeling that they deserved the loss because GHW Bush didn’t keep his “read my lips” promise.

Divided government will mean gridlock in DC this time around. Not that gridlock is always the worst thing in the world, but that is what will happen. And I think you might even get gridlock on bank bailouts. Republicans want to try to figure out how to run on opposition to that next time around. McCain would have done pretty much the same stuff if had been elected, but he wasn’t elected so they don’t have to take any responsibility for it. The one thing that might still happen with divided government is more cash for clunkers/cash for shacks type programs - that is possible

By the way, if you are going to have divided government, I’d generally prefer Democrats in the executive branch and Republicans controlling the legislative branch. At least I would as long as Republicans are still clinging to a “government is always the problem” meme. It really gets in the way of enforcing existing laws when the folks in charge think executive branch employees should be subverted whenever possible.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 08:36:03

Well it was alot easier to come to agreement when we were in the midst of the tech bubble. If congress wouldn’t let the Democratic president spend it all, and the president wouldn’t let the Republican congress cut taxes on the wealthy, the end result was deficit reduction. Of course given similar intransigence today, the result is ever increasing deficits and debt payments as far as the eye can see.

 
Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:41:18

That is being a little too simplistic, Jim. Except for universal insurance, Clinton didn’t even try to spend it all. Once that effort failed, they just weren’t that much in opposition to each other. Welfare reform had been a Republican priority for a long time. Yes, they probably would have cut taxes if Clinton would have signed it, but he wouldn’t so that wasn’t on the table.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 09:34:08

Well Polly, I think that there is a bit of an equivalance between “they would have cut taxes if Clinton would have signed it” and “Clinton would have proposed spending more, if it could have gotten through congress.” But of course I HAVE simplified the dynamic considerably by making having an equivalnace between Democratic president and Republican congress. Clinton certainly inclined to spend as much as the Democrats in congress were, and the Republicans in congress weren’t nearly as powerful as their majority might tend to indicate. Regardless of pary, congressmen are more interested in spending money in THEIR district than any president would be. At some level that’s WHY the “president’s budget proposal” is the first step in the budget process, even though his only real power is vetoing whatever spending bills the congress passes.

 
Comment by basura
2010-01-04 09:59:53

“government is always the problem”</i?

It’s the correct meme. Problem with repubs is that they are such liars. Show me an example of any government waste and corruption the repubes reduced when they were in executive branch. The result is quite the contrary. That’s whay they will never get my vote and money.

 
 
 
Comment by mrktMaven
2010-01-04 08:51:41

“In October the Democrats might lose both houses and the money spigot gets turned off…well at least that’s what I hope.”

ROTFLMAO! REIC-Man J. Isakson, co-sponsor of the tax credit plan, is, was, and always will be a Republican. Look it up.

Comment by basura
2010-01-04 10:04:11

Yup both parties are severely infested with the “extend and pretend” crowd.

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Comment by michael
2010-01-04 10:43:54

they also forget that McCain wanted to actually pay peoples mortgages.

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Comment by varelse
2010-01-04 16:24:07

It’s not that the republicans are so great, it’s that they will be politically motivated to say no to Obama and the dems in congress, who have been on a spending orgy since 2006.

 
Comment by exeter
2010-01-04 16:50:27

Which is different than the 5trillion dollar debt run up by the retardicans and the idiot son circa 2000-2008?

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-01-04 21:19:32

“they also forget that McCain wanted to actually pay peoples mortgages.”

McSame — McShame. The mainstream Republicans really want a theocracy. Economics? They talk the talk but as long as they can get assurance that unconstitutional meddling by government in health care won’t increase abortion, they are okay.

Republican Party sucks. Since “Moral Majority” took it over in 1979 it has sucked. No longer the Barry Goldwater Party since then.

 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 09:25:40

In October the Democrats might lose both houses and the money spigot gets turned off…well at least that’s what I hope.

I wouldn’t hold my breath about the money spigot thing. No matter who’s in charge:

The two wars will continue.
Federal hiring will continue.
Dough for dumps will continue.
Bailouts for banks and other TBTF entities will continue.

Until no one will lend us anymore money or accept our monopoly money as payment for real goods.

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The only change we might see is that the unemployed will be told to eat cake, but I think that’s unlikely.

 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-01-04 10:06:40

Indeed!

You, too, can get an $8,000 tax credit and overpay for the house by 5 * $8,000 = $40,000 (assuming they are using the $8,000 as their 20% down payment.)

FUN!!!

 
 
Comment by skb
2010-01-04 07:55:26

Why are you thinking this?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:11:26

The Safety Net.
Living on Nothing but Food Stamps.

CAPE CORAL, Fla. — After an improbable rise from the Bronx projects to a job selling Gulf Coast homes, Isabel Bermudez lost it all to an epic housing bust — the six-figure income, the house with the pool and the investment property.

Real Estate in Cape Coral Is Far From a Recovery.

“It’s the one thing I can count on every month — I know the children are going to have food.” ISABEL BERMUDEZ, who has two daughters and no cash income.

Now, as she papers the county with résumés and girds herself for rejection, she is supporting two daughters on an income that inspires a double take: zero dollars in monthly cash and a few hundred dollars in food stamps.

With food-stamp use at a record high and surging by the day, Ms. Bermudez belongs to an overlooked subgroup that is growing especially fast: recipients with no cash income.

About six million Americans receiving food stamps report they have no other income, according to an analysis of state data collected by The New York Times. In declarations that states verify and the federal government audits, they described themselves as unemployed and receiving no cash aid — no welfare, no unemployment insurance, and no pensions, child support or disability pay.

Their numbers were rising before the recession as tougher welfare laws made it harder for poor people to get cash aid, but they have soared by about 50 percent over the past two years. About one in 50 Americans now lives in a household with a reported income that consists of nothing but a food-stamp card.

“It’s the one thing I can count on every month — I know the children are going to have food,” Ms. Bermudez, 42, said with the forced good cheer she mastered selling rows of new stucco homes.

Comment by pmseatac
2010-01-04 07:47:27

An interesting factoid: the highest yearly cost of the classic welfare program (aid to families with dependant children) was $24 billion in 1996. During the height of the bailout madness, the Fed and treasury department were handing out (at times) in excess off $100 billion per day to wealthy bankers and house flippers. In the space of a little more than a year, the welfare payments to this new class of welfare queens have exceeded the cumulative cost of the AFDC program over it’s entire 61 year history, by a handsome amount. And of course there is no end in sight. Can anyone tell me what makes the new welfare queens so much more deserving than the old ones ? I don’t see any difference between an addled crackwhore with ten children by different fathers, or a realtor, or a “talented trader” as far as contributing to the economy. Other than the fact that the crackwhore only collected a few hundred dollars a month, so was far less of a burden on society.

Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:13:55

Well, supposedly the new welfare kings are going to lend money to small businesses so they can provide jobs to the old ones. Supposedly.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 08:42:04

Of course supposedly when we cut taxes on corporations and the well off, that money would be reinvested by Wall Street in productivity improvements that raise GDP enough to make us all better off. Turns out that the bankers lent most of the extra money out to the lower* and middle income at interest rates and terms that, in the end, were unaffordable. Look, the government isn’t great at choosing what to invest money in. But it turns out that when the free market runs out of good ideas, usury is always an option.

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Comment by mikey
2010-01-04 10:05:48

I’m not sure about all the other states but Wisconsin did see a big shift in the overall property tax burden revenues distrbutions SHIFTING from large agriculture and businesses onto the private household properety taxes.

There is nowhere else to go for future money except to tax j6p’s and Debbie HomeDebter’s free-loading HouseMouse…and his family.

The is no room for free cheese and or disposable income for the mice in run-amuck American Corpor…Ooops…Capitalism.

“SNAP!”
:)

 
Comment by measton
2010-01-04 12:27:09

Tax cuts may get invested in other countries. Wall Street Wellfare can be used to prop up all kinds of bubbles but don’t really increase GDP in a sustainable manner.

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-01-04 13:35:03

“…..shifting from large ag. and businesses…….”

They used to do this in a back-door way, with property tax abatements, sometimes until so far in the future that the plant would be closed before it could be taxed.

Now they are doing it directly…….by buying and giving away land, paying for the building and site improvements with IRBs, free job training, and (now) taxing the EMPLOYEES to pay for some/all of this.

IMO, if they are going to basically give money away, they should set up some kind of Venture Capital program, where the best and brightest of the local college grads can get financing for starting local businesses.

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 22:53:32

IMO, if they are going to basically give money away, they should set up some kind of Venture Capital program, where the best and brightest of the local college grads can get financing for starting local businesses.
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I like it!

And since the govt is taking all the risks WRT the financial markets, there is no more need for banks, as they just skim off a piece of every transaction (if they aren’t gambling with their clients’ money). No more need for private, for-profit banks and financial institutions. Let the taxpayers’ fund it (since they are, anyway), and let them reap whatever profits the banks would otherwise take.

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-01-04 09:32:56

Well, supposedly the new welfare kings are going to lend money to small businesses so they can provide jobs to the old ones. Supposedly.

Should that be read in the voice of Newt from Aliens ala “They mostly come out at night. Mostly.”?

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-01-04 12:10:00

This is what my Republican, Tea Party/Tea Bagger friends can’t seem to get their heads around.

They bit#h about all the money that Obama has “spent”. And they haven’t convinced anyone that McCain would have done anything different.

But they don’t get that the real damage is the money spent, or promised to be spent, by Bushco; basically makes Obama’s spending look like a rounding error.

Comment by varelse
2010-01-04 16:31:16

Trillion dollar rounding errors? Bush was bad….so far Obama has been much, much worse. Invoking Bush’s name can only excuse so much from Obama.

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Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:17:31

By the way, does anyone know if the food stamp program requires you to have no assets as well as low or no income? Presumably with exceptions like not counting a house or a car?

Comment by rms
2010-01-04 08:29:34

As I understand it the food stamp recipient doesn’t have to provide a SSN if they are of the paranoid persuasion; it’s for the kids.

Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:33:42

But you can get food stamps without kids. You may get less, but you can get it. WIC is only for kids and pregnant women, but that is a different program, isn’t it?

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Comment by basura
2010-01-04 10:14:06

Nope. Years ago I saw “Old Dirty Bastard”, a millionaire rapper at that time drove his limo to collect his free check. It was on MTV or one of the music TV.

Comment by VaBeyatch in Virginia Beach
2010-01-04 13:54:45

A lot of those rappers don’t really own much, it’s all owned by their record label and stuff. I’m sure some play it safe and do well, but others (like Realtors) think the big money will continue to come forever. They crash and burn.

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Comment by Elanor
2010-01-04 11:25:08

My BIL couldn’t get food stamps because he “owns” a house. I’m sure he’s underwater on his mortgage but it didn’t matter to the state of FL.

 
Comment by WHYoung
2010-01-04 11:41:06

In New York they count any assets as well as income of any other household residents.

 
 
Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:12:49

So, where do you suppose she lives? Squatting in one of her previous sales?

No matter the circumstances, I have to have empathy for the kids.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:14:09

* REAL ESTATE * JANUARY 4, 2010 * WSJ

Real estate faces a tough slog to recovery.
In the U.S., government aid to housing market is being phased out; commercial sector faces a glut of space.

Real estate, which sparked the global economic downturn in 2008, struggled to recover in 2009. But the path to a full return to health is littered with land mines that could send the sector spiraling downward again, possibly upending the nascent economic revival.

The past year’s progress in the housing market has relied on government programs that are scheduled to be phased out. The commercial real-estate market is faced with huge amounts of unoccupied space and a deluge of defaults and foreclosures that are putting new stresses on banks and other financial institutions already are on life support.

The outlook for 2010 is uncertain, at best.

On the bright side, U.S. housing markets stabilized in 2009 as the Federal Reserve’s policies drove mortgage rates to 50-year lows for much of the spring and autumn. Home prices posted six consecutive months of modest gains through October. The supply of foreclosed homes for sale has declined, in part the result of a program President Obama’s administration launched in February designed to keep at-risk borrowers in their homes.

But the underpinnings of the positive trends are fragile. The Fed brought down mortgage rates by committing to purchase as much as $1.25 trillion in mortgage-backed securities. That program, already extended once, is set to expire in March.

Rates could rise by a full percentage point after those purchases end, sapping any housing recovery, says Ronald Temple, portfolio manager at Lazard Asset Management. He predicts that prices could fall by 15% to 20% if the program ends as planned in March.

Home sales also have been supported by an $8,000 tax credit for first-time buyers. It, too, was set to expire in 2009 but was extended by Congress through the first half of 2010.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:28:23

I’ll believe the “winding down” of the stimulus when I see it.

Anyone want to bet we get another program of some sort right as the $8,000 tax credit is about to expire?

Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 06:32:39

There’s no doubt about that. Wonder what it will be this time? Maybe they’ll just increase it to $10,000.

Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:45:04

Well the real-a-tor sen-a-tor from Ga. is still trying to peddle his $15,000.00 grand plan. I don’t think it will fly though, it didn’t at the peak of the D.C. insanity bubble. That’s not to say ‘they’ won’t extend the 8k, I think they will, just don’t think it will be increased.

Of course the D.C. cesspool is capable of just about any money wasting scheme that can be dreamed up, so time will tell.

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Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 12:45:20
 
Comment by oxide
2010-01-04 16:11:39

That amendment was passed for the Feb 2009 stimulus pack. Yet, I haven’t seen “$15K” on the For Sale signs. Was the Isakson Amendment stripped during conference?

 
 
Comment by Bad Chile
2010-01-04 06:57:06

No doubt. Depends how the three months of winter sales (ha!) stack up after the demand stealing effects of the November expiration (ha!) home buyer credit stacks up.

I’m guessing the tax credit becomes de facto permanent. Getting renewed every November and May.

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Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-01-04 10:17:22

Renewing the tax credit forever would help keep housing unaffordable and would be the worst outcome since it harms the honest and prudent. Since it is open season on those types of people, expect the tax credit to be renewed forever.

Gotta keep people in debt!

 
 
Comment by mikey
2010-01-04 10:26:41

Yeah…or Wall Street could just print and run “$10,000 Off DreamHouse Coupons” in the shopping flyers of our local weekly grocery specials.

We already have in-house Bankers in our super markets near to the kids candy at the check outs. They’d make a killing.

“Potential Customer Slaughter… Clean-up banker.. Report to aisle 3 Please !”
:)

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Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-01-04 07:02:57

We either get all out money printing and hyper inflation or the money spigot has to be turned off. I simply don’t believe that Washington can borrow trillions of dollars forever without any consequences. In a non-hyper inflationary scenario interest rates will go up as buyers of US treasuries demand higher returns. That alone will force some unpleasant truth upon big spenders in DC. They can’t afford 2 wars, health care and nursing a housing bubble. We’ll be lucky if we can afford 1 of those 3.
If “they” resort to full tilt money printing and creating government jobs to be paid for with freshly printed money then we get serious inflation and all bets are off. Unlikely but not impossible. I think a Republican victory this year will make this scenario less likely.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 08:46:00

Not forever, but much longer than is good for us. Really, it only stops when people stop lending us money in dollars. And the ChiComs show little actual willingness to let the dollar weaken significantly.

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Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-01-04 10:24:37

“Really, it only stops when people stop lending us money in dollars.”

Precisely correct, Jim… The day you see the USGovt borrow in any other currency than dollars is the day that you should be afraid, very very afraid. All dollar-denominated debt is an implicit agreement with the option to pay in freshly-printed dollars rather than existing dollars. The day the rest of the world is no longer ok with that is the day that our credit-card limit has been reached.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-01-04 13:51:45

PIC–Well they’re not going to be issuing T-Bills denominated in anything other than $s anytime soon. But we DO have TIPS, so are TERPS* a future possibility?

*Treasury Exchange Rate Protected Securities?

 
Comment by packman
2010-01-04 14:25:23

PIC–Well they’re not going to be issuing T-Bills denominated in anything other than $s anytime soon.

Guess you’ve never heard of IMF SDR’s, eh?

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:51:32

I suggested the very same in a post yesterday evening.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:52:50

Uncle Sam’s deceptive modus operandi: Suggest that a program is going to be phased out, but stealthily replace it with a larger one that serves the same intended purpose.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:54:14

Exhibit A: Fed outsources MBS price support operation to GSEs, whose $400 bn credit line was (coincidentally, I’m sure) just uncapped…

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 22:59:34

Absolutely, PB.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:16:48

“In the U.S., government aid to housing market is being phased out;…”

Why do they keep saying they are going to do this, but fail to act? All I see is an always-increasing plethora of never-ending housing market subsidies…

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 09:34:18

LOL! I recall some years ago when there was talk of phasing out the home mortgage interest deduction.

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Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:15:51

You can bet that the stimulus will not be wound down in an election year.

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-01-04 07:08:55

Rates could rise by a full percentage point after those purchases end, sapping any housing recovery, says Ronald Temple, portfolio manager at Lazard Asset Management. He predicts that prices could fall by 15% to 20% if the program ends as planned in March.

Feh.

What is so god-awful terrible about affordable housing?

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-01-04 07:25:19

“What is so god-awful terrible about affordable housing?”
Then our Overlords on Wall Street wouldn’t get the size bonus they’re accustomed too. The more interest they can collect from their debt slaves the better off they are.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 23:01:00

Bingo, Mike.

It’s all about keeping debt levels high. The more indebted the serfs, the greater the profits for the capitalists.

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Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 07:41:51

“What is so god-awful terrible about affordable housing?”

Affordable housing is death to the equity miracle that has driven our economy for decades. Affordable housing is the end of expansion, the collpse of gevernment income, the loss of tens of millions of jobs, the collapse of banks and the Lizzard Asset Management Fund.

Next, people like you will want “quality”, “sound money” and other silly things.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 08:40:36

Right! It’s grow or die.

Stagnation is intolerable, contraction is unthinkable - to the PTB.

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Comment by measton
2010-01-04 14:02:22

It’s grow or die.

NO

It’s inflate or die, we are not growing anything. The US has a collapsing infrastructure, declining manufacturing, and we are slowly loosing our technological edge. We are not growing in any sense of the word.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 15:08:58

Oh, you’re talking about organic growth! Pish, posh - real growth stopped mattering a long time ago.

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-01-04 08:56:57

Next, people like you will want “quality”, “sound money” and other silly things.

:)

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:18:58

I thought the plan was to outsource the mortgage interest rate buydown program to the defunct, but well-funded, GSEs?

 
Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:23:47

How do you define affordable?

If a person is making $10/hour, there probably is no such thing.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 17:55:28

Considering $10 is the REAL min wage, you might find an apt in the ghetto for that, but I wouldn’t count on it.

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Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:25:48

Someone had asked about Gary “15% is in the bag” Watts the other day. Here is his most recent forecast for 2010 (big change of tune…I’m about to turn bullish!): :)

We will continue to grind our way through a troubled market for quite some time, especially here in California. The Alt-A and Option ARM loans will be a huge problem in the coming years for California. Last year Option ARM recasts totaled $7.2 billion. Next year (2010) the number grows to $11.8 billion, $11.4 billion in 2011 and $18.2 billion from 2012 forward. What is sad is this “grinding” appears to be the better scenario. There are so many issues, on so many levels, that still remain unresolved. Because of this, we are all left with an unclear picture of our economy over the next few years. However, next year is fairly clear. There will be more real estate related problems and that will continue to keep a fairly tight lid on any significant price appreciation.

http://www.impactre.com/

Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:47:34

“There will be more real estate related problems and that will continue to keep a fairly tight lid on any significant price appreciation”.

No matter what there is always that glimmer of ‘hope’ that ’significant’ price appreciation will be back, just hang in there.

 
Comment by San Diego RE Bear
2010-01-04 17:09:09

“I’m about to turn bullish!”

I knew I saw flying pigs on the horizon yesterday!

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 23:02:26

:)

 
 
 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:37:54

ATLANTA, Jan 3 (Reuters) - A U.S. Federal Reserve economist called on Sunday for the creation of a new federal institution to backstop losses on asset-backed securities to prevent any future collapse of mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae (FNM.N) and Freddie Mac (FRE.N).

The government had to take over the mortgage finance companies in 2008 as a devastating financial crisis worsened. The two had been shareholder owned, but their congressional charters and Treasury lines of credit lent their debt securities a status just short of U.S. Treasuries in the eyes of investors.

“There ought to be government-backed ABS,” said Fed economist Wayne Passmore in a presentation to the American Economic Association.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0320287220100103?type=marketsNews

Comment by chilidoggg
2010-01-04 07:47:34

What would be the consequences of a tax law making bank profits nontaxable for a fixed period? I’m thinking that smaller banks with actual profits would start eating up market share, and the real talent at the megabanks would abandon ship. Of course we would have to enforce some antitrust laws to prevent megabank from absorbing the good banks. But I think this is a proposal everyone could get behind, and maybe we could be done with Citi el al once and for all.

Comment by Kim
2010-01-04 09:04:22

I’d guess that one consequence would be that investment bank bonues would shoot even higher.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 17:57:37

Yah think? :lol:

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Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 06:40:46

Missed the best part of that article!

Passmore and Fed economist Diana Hancock argued for the creation of an agency that would guarantee all forms of asset-backed securities. It would be capitalized by insurance premiums charged to financial institutions, much like the current Federal Deposit Insurance Corp system, Passmore said.

“It resolves the problems associated with systemic risk,” Passmore said.

Fannie and Freddie, he argued, should also expand to securitize a host of new assets, like credit cards portfolios, that the private sector already handles. (Editing by Padraic Cassidy)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0320287220100103?type=marketsNews

Comment by Ernest
2010-01-04 07:25:40

“It resolves the problems associated with systemic risk,” Passmore said.

It is a perpetual motion machine. Long live American ingenuity!

Comment by mikey
2010-01-04 07:55:01

For those that think bankruptcy protection is the answer…Hey, your the back of your hospital gown is open !

Suits filed over Aurora’s use of medical data in bankruptcy cases
By Bruce Vielmetti of the Journal Sentinel

Posted: Jan. 3, 2010

Susan Dandridge knew that when she sought protection in bankruptcy court last year, information about her debts and income would go into a public court file.

“It’s old bills and stuff from my earlier life I’m trying to clean up,” said the 53-year-old admissions adviser at Herzing University, a for-profit college with a campus in Kenosha. “I can deal with that.”

But what she couldn’t deal with was learning that some of those bills, from Aurora Health Care Inc., included specific details about the kind of treatment she got there and why.

“I never thought in a million years” that Chapter 13 would “take my personal life and make it an open book,” she said recently. Now she’s one of several Aurora patients in bankruptcy who have filed class-action lawsuits against Aurora over the way it submits claims in bankruptcy.

…In truth, few people but the lawyers, trustees and judges read most bankruptcy files. The class-action lawsuits don’t allege that anyone actually learned of the plaintiffs’ conditions from the files, or used the information for any purpose. But just knowing the information was exposed - and might still be, via commercial services that copy electronic bankruptcy records - is harm, Watton said

http://tinyurl.com/y89obod

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 09:47:22

Uh, doesn’t HIPAA forbid such things?

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Comment by VaBeyatch in Virginia Beach
2010-01-04 14:32:52

Now, perhaps, but these bills were old.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:22:17

It sounds to me as though they are trying their hardest to make the problems of systemic risk subsidies permanent, by institutionalizing them.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:44:39

Best way to solve problem of systemic risk: Eliminate subsidized TBTF insurance, and chop up TBTF corporations into systemically risk-free pieces.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 23:05:25

+100,000

 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-01-04 11:39:41

“Passmore and Fed economist Diana Hancock argued for the creation of an agency that would guarantee all forms of asset-backed securities.”

Unbelievable!

They really, truly don’t get it.

The problem was not that the ABS/MBS were lacking in sufficient guarantees—the federal government is still backing all the Fannie/Freddie MBS.

The real problem is that the people doing the underwriting have nothing to lose when they do a poor job of it, as they have no skin in the game! And ditto for the buyers.

Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-01-04 12:01:41

“Passmore and Fed economist Diana Hancock argued for the creation of an agency that would guarantee all forms of asset-backed securities.”

Talk about picking winners and losers in the “free” market. This is f***ing bullsh!t.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:03:42

“It resolves the problems associated with systemic risk,” Passmore said.

Insanity. You can no more remove risk than make the tides illegal.

Without consequences, there is no caution nor thought. That way lies madness and ultimately, complete destruction.

 
 
Comment by Sagesse
2010-01-04 06:46:46

Question: should I have kept an oversized Sta Claus stocking?

From Zero Hedge:

“This is your government. Your legal right to redeem your money market account has been denied.” by T.Durden 1/3/10

“At this point it is without doubt that even the government understands that when things turn sour, and they will, the run on the bank will be unavoidable: their solution - prevent money from being dispensed, when that moment comes.

“Money Markets are the easiest recourse that idiotic class of Americans known as “savers” has to give the big bank oligarchs, the Fed and the bubble-inflating Administration the middle finger.

“Could this action, whereby investors will no longer have access to money that historically has been sacrosanct and reachable and disposable on a moment’s notice, be the last nail in the coffin of money markets?

“The primary purpose of money markets is to provide virtually instantaneous access to a portfolio of practically risk-free investment alternatives: a typical investor in a money market seeks minute investment risk, no volatility, and instantaneous liquidity, or redeemability. These are the three pillars upon which the entire $3.3 trillion money market industry is based.

“Yet new regulations proposed by the administration, and specifically by the ever-incompetent Securities and Exchange Commission, seek to pull one of these three core pillars from the foundation of the entire money market industry, by changing the primary assumptions of the key Money Market Rule 2a-7. A key proposal in the overhaul of money market regulation suggests that money market fund managers will have the option to “suspend redemptions to allow for the orderly liquidation of fund assets.” You read that right: this does not refer to the charter of procyclical, leveraged, risk-ridden, transsexual (allegedly) portfolio manager-infested hedge funds like SAC, Citadel, Glenview or even Bridgewater (which in light of ADIA’s latest batch of problems, may well be wishing this was in fact the case), but the heart of heretofore assumed safest and most liquid of investment options: Money Market funds, which account for nearly 40% of all investment company assets.

“The next time there is a market crash, and you try to withdraw what you thought was “absolutely” safe money, a back office person will get back to you saying, “Sorry - your money is now frozen. Bank runs have become illegal.”

“This is precisely the regulation now proposed by the administration. In essence, the entire US capital market is now a hedge fund, where even presumably the safest investment tranche can be locked out from within your control when the ubiquitous “extraordinary circumstances” arise.”

Comment by bob
2010-01-04 12:52:04

wow - i have not seen any outcry on this (assuming true).

This is scary (just from a financial stability) standpoint - folks not being able to get their $s. What is the reasoning?

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:08:25

I heard someone else talking about this on the radio the other night.

 
Comment by Watching the Carnage
2010-01-04 18:41:32

Sagesse,

Yes - I read this too on zero hedge and spent 12 hours in a fetal position. I’ve been 90% in MM’s since 10/2007.

There is no safe place for savers…Wall Street and the Fed will find a way to ferret out any savings and turn it into their own bonuses for Wall Street or to underwrite the failure of the Fed.

Does anyone here have any good suggestions aside from my mattress as to a safe place to park some cash?

Yuckkkkk

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:53:24

Critics Doubt Latest Jobs Bill Will Really Produce Jobs. (AP)

When the Senate takes up a jobs bill later this month or early in February, the debate will center on whether it really will create jobs and be worth plunging the government tens of billions of dollars further into debt.

When the Senate takes up a jobs bill later this month or early in February, the debate will center on whether it really will create jobs and be worth plunging the government tens of billions of dollars further into debt.

Republicans scoff at the “Jobs for Main Street Act” title that House Democrats put on their $174 billion package last month. They refer to it as “son of the stimulus,” the $787 billion economic recovery plan of nearly a year ago that they say was ineffective at producing jobs.

In its last vote of 2009, the House narrowly passed the bill, 217-212, without a single Republican supporter.

Democrats tick off the job prospects from the House bill’s $75 billion in infrastructure and public sector spending: tens of thousands of new construction jobs, 5,500 more police officers, 25,000 additional AmeriCorps members, 250,000 summer jobs for disadvantaged youth, 14,000 part-time jobs for parks and forestry workers.

“Why don’t we just put everyone in the United States on the federal government payroll and call it a day?” counters Rep. Jerry Lewis, R-Calif.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 09:45:14

It would be nice if the elephant boyz and girlz would actually propose something other than more tax cuts for wealthy corporations that continue to offshore jobs.

Neither side is offering a viable solution.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-01-04 13:02:56

What he said.

This jobs “plan” is B.S.

Unfortunately, the alternative the Repubs are offering is more of the same crap that got us where we are now.

The sound of jobs disappearing overseas continues unabated. China has calculated that no jobs means political unrest, and they would rather export that here, than have it there. Political unrest here, serves their purposes.

As long as jobs/income keep falling here, anything the government does to promote houses/spending by consumers will be like putting bandaids on sucking chest wounds. Wall Street is actively promoting investment in China rather than the US, because that is where the “growth” is.

The real problems will really start when China decides that dealing with the US is getting to be more trouble than it’s worth. Nobody has talked much about how one of the reasons counterparties were made “whole” by the US Government, was to preclude seizure of overseas assets by the “counterparties”. In other words, a big bailout to circumvent an even bigger bailout of US investments overseas.

The trouble is that there is no “growth”. It is US manufacturing being undercut on price in existing markets. The stereotypical “$100/hr overpaid UAW worker” has served it’s purpose. You will soon be hearing about the “overpaid $15/hr worker”.

Until the cost of doing business in China goes way up (by pay increases, US-Euro environmental/OSHA standards), things aren’t going to change. We’ll turn into Mexico x 10. Plan your future accordingly.

Comment by measton
2010-01-04 14:27:53

Bingo

In a world full of workers and factories where the cost of natural resources starts to put a lower limit on the price manufactured goods, you will see the masses fight more and more for the static to shrinking number of jobs. Globilization in this world creates a world of slaves and a small class of slave owners.

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Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 23:23:48

Exactly right.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 16:29:37

The stereotypical “$100/hr overpaid UAW worker” has served it’s purpose. You will soon be hearing about the “overpaid $15/hr worker”.

Ha! I’m already seeing this. Some local supermarkets are going on strike and the naysayers are already complaining about the princely $12/hr wages these folks are paid.

It’s a race to the bottom.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:13:40

I still can’t figure out why the PTB think that a 75% consumer driven economy doesn’t need consumers.

They are either extremely stupid or there is something very nasty in our future that they know about and we don’t.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:55:20

US Business Loan Defaults Rise Again: PayNet
Monday, 4 Jan 2010 | Reuters

Severe delinquencies by small and medium-sized U.S. businesses on the loans, leases and lines of credit to finance capital equipment rose again in November as lenders remained reluctant to extend fresh financing, PayNet Inc reported on Monday.
Accounts behind 180 days or more, and unlikely ever to be paid, rose to 0.91 percent in November from 0.87 percent in October, according to PayNet, which provides risk-management tools to the commercial lending industry.

It was the 22nd consecutive monthly increase in loans so far in arrears they ultimately may have to be written off by lenders.

Accounts in moderate delinquency, or those behind by 30 days or more, rose in November to 4.33 percent from 4.19 percent in October, according to PayNet.

Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 07:26:55

“… lenders remain reluctant to extend fresh financing.”

C A $ H R U L E $

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 07:34:18
Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-01-04 08:33:50

… and as long as the cash isn’t in mutual funds (see above).

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Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-01-04 08:35:59

mutual money market funds, I meant.

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-01-04 14:29:25

Cash rules - as long as it’s not US dollars.

It still rules if you are going to buy a house and the price of houses continues to fall.

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Comment by packman
2010-01-04 14:56:23

“Rules” though implies the top of the hierarchy.

Just because something is higher in a given hierarchy, doesn’t mean it’s at the top.

Even if house prices continue to fall - any given house will still outperform say a 2010 Nissan over the next 10 years.

Over the last 9 months - stocks rule actually.

 
 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-01-04 08:36:49

Why should they lend on residential when they can pass those loan bundles to F&F ? Again ,the underwriting is a joke and the down payments are low or paid for by incentives . Wall Street killed the secondary lending market for loans . I suspect a tight money market down the road as well as higher interest rates ,so anybody with cash
should be able to get killer deals . If they extend the Government backed lending for say another 3 years ,than it just prolongs the bottom . You could go up on long term rates on CD’s for instance and still keep lower mortgage rates below 6 % if F&F operated on lower spreads and
the Banks took lower spread margins . The secondary market isn’t going to be that interested in providing low fixed rates either in the future and will most likely want some form of a adjustable .

I made the prediction a long time ago that in order to bring back the secondary market for loan lending (other than the government backed loans )they would have to insure those loans in the future . The cost will be passed on to the consumer in one way or another . AIG offered
Insurance CDS’s ,but it really wasn’t backed and was really just a casino bet .Really ,everything is going need insurance in order to restore confidence to the system that was lost by the Ponzi-scheme . I can’t think of any other way that they can pull investment funds in the future for lending . So that is my prediction for the future . But they need to get a handle on the underwriting of loans because faulty underwriting has to be the first and foremost cause of the false demand that drove up real estate prices ,including no skin in the game down payments .

Comment by Al
2010-01-04 09:39:31

“Really ,everything is going need insurance in order to restore confidence to the system that was lost by the Ponzi-scheme .”

Except, many people have learned what the term ‘counter party risk’ means.

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Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 06:57:38

Vt. bankruptcy filings up 23 percent.

With more Vermonters out of work and having trouble making ends meet, bankruptcies in the state jumped 23 percent in 2009.

There were 1,541 bankruptcies filed in the state last year, 285 more than the previous year, according to the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Rutland.

“The biggest thing right now is unemployment,” Rutland bankruptcy lawyer Rebecca Rice said. “I’m seeing a lot more people who’ve been unemployed a lot longer.”

Rice said exacerbating the situation is the fact that with job prospects so slim, many of her clients have given up on finding a job. She said “there’s no end in sight and they’re expending all their savings trying to stay on top of things.”

White River Junction lawyer Michelle Kainen said she hasn’t seen any evidence the economy is turning around.

Kainen said many of her clients are in a situation where one or both spouses are unemployed.

“I’m shocked when a husband and wife come in and both are employed,” she said.

She said bankruptcy has hit higher wage earners as well. Someone who loses a $50,000 a year job and is lucky enough to find a job at $35,000 is having trouble paying their bills, Kainen said.

She also said she’s seeing more mom and pop business bankruptcies.

Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 07:22:53

“‘Someone who loses a $50,000 a year job and is lucky enough to find a job at $35,000 is having trouble paying their bills’, Kainen said.”

There goes discretionary spending, right down the tube, along with jobs that depend on this spending.

Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:32:04

My uncle’s partner recently quit a position and got a new job with a raise in just a few weeks in Vermont. Of course, the job was financial/administrative with some responsibilities that are closer to clerical and he has a Phd (in an irrelevant other area). Uncle speculated that the person running the program liked the idea of getting a Phd in the position since the people who do the actual work are all Phds and figured it would help the other folks have more respect for (and pay attention to) the demands of the person doing the adminstrative work.

If that is what is required to change jobs easily in VT, then the state is in trouble. Big trouble.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 09:41:31

We had an opening for a P/T shipping and receiving clerk. Over a hundred people applied, many with advanced degrees.

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Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-01-04 12:54:02

In states such as Oregon and NV, there are sometimes thousands of applications for a single job.

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-01-04 10:44:23

Tell me about it combo

Jobs i banked on for almost 20 years High school reunions 25-40-50-60 year birthdays or anniversaries….retirement parties gone or much less then before…..backyard or block parties very few. Now they get a free hip hop dj or an ipod or even the sirius satellite boombox

Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-01-04 12:09:16

One of the best wedding reception dj’s I ever heard was a laptop that all the guests could use to queue up whatever they wanted to hear using rhapsody. It was very collaborative, and it worked out great! :-)

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-01-04 12:42:04

Prime:

That works IF you have an active bunch of friends. Its the main reason I don’t do karaoke. Sometimes you get stuck with a lame crowd.

I am hoping this is the year that zydeco goes mainstream..This guy just tunred 30…why aren’t the record companies supporting this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7AGgG1hcE8

 
 
 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 08:52:04

“I’m seeing a lot more people who’ve been unemployed a lot longer.”

“there’s no end in sight and they’re expending all their savings trying to stay on top of things.” Rutland bankruptcy lawyer Rebecca Rice said.

I know, I’m a broken record with this, but it’s all about the DURATION of this downturn - not simply the metrics. Viewed in this context, the month to month fluctuations in asset prices and the markets are near meaningless. The PTB is playing a risky game in managing popular expectations and using the same tactics they use with managing expectations of faraway wars.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-04 23:40:04

Precisely right EWJ. It’s the duration, not the depth, of this recession that will be the most traumatic.

Guess where the warnings were first sounded? Right here on the HBB. We said years ago that if the govt/PTB tried to intervene in the housing/credit market, then it would end up prolonging the pain, not eliminating it.

We would be much closer to “the bottom” if they had left things alone. Now, they’ve probably extended it by years. Think of all the debt we have to pay back — debt that was caused by bailing out the very entities and people who caused the credit/housing bubble in the first place.

Nice going, Govt/Fed!

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:18:10

“Someone who loses a $50,000 a year job and is lucky enough to find a job at $35,000 is having trouble paying their bills.”

Hell, they’ll be lucky to find a $24,000 job.

I’ve met hundreds of people over the last few years who are making 33% less than they were 15 years ago.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 07:07:39

The top 10 turds swimming around in the cesspool…

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2009 ~ Washington, DC

Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2009 list of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.”

http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/dec/judicial-watch-announces-list-washington-s-ten-most-wanted-corrupt-politicians-2009

Comment by 2banana
2010-01-04 08:28:33

9 dems and 1 repub - hmmmmm

 
Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 12:56:38

You forgot to mention that Judicial Watch is a “conservative” group. That explains why nine of the ten most corrupt politicians they name are Democrats, and why Barack Obama is on the list.

Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 13:00:48

Here is a better-researched,less politically motivated list, limited to congress.

http://www.crewsmostcorrupt.org/report

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 16:42:30

You forgot to mention… ;-)

links & full disclosure, not needed in wmbz’s bits bucket deposits. :-)

Comment by exeter
2010-01-04 18:48:07

“Judicial watch”???????????

BWHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! These are the same creeps who want to jail women who get an abortion and outlaw birth control.

You’ve sunk to new lows WMBZ.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:22:54

For even more depressing fun, go to The Corporate Library online.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 07:09:50

Housing Animal Spirits to Be Banished by Prime Foreclosures.

Jan. 4 (Bloomberg) — Homeowners with the best credit are the next big risk for the U.S. housing market.

An increase in mortgage defaults among prime borrowers in 2009 is likely to accelerate this year, slowing the real estate recovery even as Americans become more optimistic about the economy, said Robert Shiller and Karl Case, the economists who created the S&P/Case-Shiller Home Price Index.

“There will be continuing foreclosures, and not just subprime, it will be prime mortgages,” Shiller, a professor at Yale University, said in an interview. “This is creating a huge shadow inventory of homes that are still owned, but they’re going to be on the market in the next year or so.”

The number of prime mortgages overdue by at least 60 days more than doubled in the third quarter from a year earlier to 838,000, according to a Dec. 21 report from the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency and the Office of Thrift Supervision. Unemployed homeowners struggling to pay their bills will default on their home loans and increase foreclosures, Shiller and Wellesley College’s Case said.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:27:11

“A closely watched pot never boils over.”

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-01-04 07:18:23

NY Times:

“Critics increasingly argue that the program, Making Home Affordable, has raised false hopes among people who simply cannot afford their homes. As a result, desperate homeowners have sent payments to banks in often-futile efforts to keep their homes, which some see as wasting dollars they could have saved in preparation for moving to cheaper rental residences.”

“Some experts argue the program has impeded economic recovery by delaying a wrenching yet cleansing process through which borrowers give up unaffordable homes and banks fully reckon with their disastrous bets on real estate, enabling money to flow more freely through the financial system.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/02/business/economy/02modify.html?ref=realestate

Perhaps by critics they mean the HBB.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:41:25

“Critics increasingly argue that the program, Making Home Affordable, has raised false hopes among people who simply cannot afford their homes. As a result, desperate homeowners have sent payments to banks in often-futile efforts to keep their homes, which some see as wasting dollars they could have saved in preparation for moving to cheaper rental residences.”

I can only speak for myself here (though I realize many other HBB posters may agree), but this program appears to be all about duping deeply underwater homeowners into continuing with futile attempts to pay off unrepayable debt, in order to save the banks. Why don’t they retitle it the ‘Making Banks Solvent’ program, so that underwater home owners have fair warning they are the designated bag holders?

Comment by combotechie
2010-01-04 07:55:31

“… this program appears to be all about duping deeply underwater homeowners into continuing with futile attempts to pay off unrepayable debt, in order to save the banks.”

Isn’t this wonderful? Isn’t it great that those who contributed to the bubble are the same ones that get to endure pain that would otherwise be felt by us taxpayers?

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:05:21

I would concur, if I didn’t have the sneaking suspicion that innocent third parties, who neither a borrower nor a lender were, will be somehow stuck with a portion of the tab for reckless home mortgage borrowing and lending.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:06:58

The banking industry’s systemic scam (aided and abetted by plants at the Fed and the Treasury):

Externalize the damages from reckless borrowing and lending to innocent third parties.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 08:26:50

The buyers of MBS have felt some pain here and there.

Savers, who get zero interest on savings, feel the pain.

Taxpayers, who fund the bank bailouts, will feel the pain.

Plenty of pain for everybody.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:53:46

“Plenty of pain for everybody.”

Internalize the damages of crazy lending, eliminate financial moral hazard.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 18:26:01

Now you know beyond any shadow of a doubt the “socialize the risk and privatize the profits” isn’t just empty hyperbole, is it?

 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-01-04 12:12:28

“Isn’t this wonderful? Isn’t it great that those who contributed to the bubble are the same ones that get to endure pain that would otherwise be felt by us taxpayers?”

It _would_ be wonderful—if only the program was not also a cover-story for shoveling another $75Billion of taxpayer money into the banks. And I would not be surprised if that number goes up.

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Comment by Reuven
2010-01-04 12:12:12

Shouldn’t people take their own blame for “raising false hopes?” It’s really not that hard to see if a home is affordable. Every spreadsheet comes with a mortgage-payment calculator, and people generally know how much they take home every month.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:24:45

I took the challenge to research LaRouche’s credentials as an economist. He sounds just like the crack pot I thought he was, interlacing reasonable sounding echoes of arguments made by others with his personal brand of demagoguery.

Paradoxically, the words of Shakespeare’s Macbeth haunt me: “I begin to doubt the equivocation of the fiend that lies like truth.”

He believes that if governments do not play a strong role in directing national economies, the gap will be filled by several kinds of monopolies and cartels. It is because of this that LaRouche opposes Free Trade and globalism and supports protectionism.[50][56]

LaRouche maintains that supranational financial institutions such as the International Monetary Fund are committed to a policy of looting the living standards of the world’s populations through austerity and speculation, while contracting the actual productive base of these economies – a policy that he claims is a revival of the economic approach of the German central banker Hjalmar Schacht, who held office both before and during the Nazi government of Adolf Hitler. To remedy this, LaRouche proposes a new international conference, modeled on the Bretton Woods conference, for the purpose of reorganizing a bankrupt monetary system, and eliminating most of the presently unpayable debt. For example, he advocates the retroactive cancellation of all financial derivatives contracts. He proposes that new credits be created for very large infrastructure projects all over the world; LaRouche has published specific proposals for such projects in Europe, Asia, Africa, the Middle East, North and South America, and Australia. LaRouche considers it to be the unfinished mission of the United States of America to end any form of colonialism, which he associates in particular with the austerity policies of the International Monetary Fund in the post-1972 period.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 08:07:33

OK PB, so you have a bug about LaRouche. All you have done here is to insult his person and throw in a few emotional triggers. For those like me, who don’t know much about the guy, suggesting that he thinks the IMF is the agent of the devil doesn’t add much.

Are you following your own rules of engagement? Ad humeranium and all that.

Health suggestion: let this kind of thing go before you go to sleep at night!

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:12:10

RE SuperNova told me to research LaRouche, and I did. If this constitutes an ad hominem attack in your world, then I humbly apologize.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 08:36:15

I read the exchange and it was entertaining in a late night kind of way, but not constructive I thought. It seemed to me that you were calling names and then using that as your argument. Ok, I’ll just call it circular argumentation and Ad Sophomoranium. I read what you psot, and that investment is usually better rewarded than following your attacks on Supernova.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:42:11

I never attacked Supernova. If you beg to differ, please show me where I attacked him, and I will offer an apology (assuming you are not just imagining this).

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 09:04:42

I withdraw.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:24:29

One more thing: I really have nothing personal against LaRouche. I have a far more general bug about liars and demagogues; he just so happens to fit the bill.

Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-01-04 10:02:43

Who cares, PB. If you’re an infoholic– as are many of us here– you can learn even from liars and demagogues. If LaRouche was right about the failed photo-op in mid-December, then I’ve found out something I didn’t know.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:43:11

I totally agree with you, but I feel a moral compunction about pointing out questionable sources which consistently appear here from the same poster every fracking time!

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-01-04 15:21:17

I totally agree with you, but I feel a moral compunction about pointing out questionable sources which consistently appear here from the same poster every fracking time!

3 questions:

1. On this blog, who is one of the most prolific posters of articles from the MSM?
2. Have you not many times questioned the MSM’s objectivity?
3. In relation to your above post, do the answers to the above questions cause any additional moral compunctions?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 17:50:48

1. On this blog, who is one of the most prolific posters of articles from the MSM?

I am.

2. Have you not many times questioned the MSM’s objectivity?

Constantly.

3. In relation to your above post, do the answers to the above questions cause any additional moral compunctions?

No. Despite its occasional biases, obtaining an amalgam of information from various MSM outlets and subjecting it to a healthy dose of critical scrutiny provides a far more reliable picture of reality than solely relying on a newsletter published by some crackpot.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-01-04 19:08:37

Despite its occasional biases, obtaining an amalgam of information from various MSM outlets and subjecting it to a healthy dose of critical scrutiny provides a far more reliable picture of reality than solely relying on a newsletter published by some crackpot.

But what if the same said crackpot’s picture of reality published in 2001-03 regarding the housing bubble was far more reliable than ANY amalgam of information from various MSM outlets of the same period?

Shouldn’t we recognize the contribution, despite our possibleoccasional biases?

 
 
Comment by reuven
2010-01-05 07:57:50

*I’ll* stick my neck out and call him a dangerous wack-job.

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Comment by chilidoggg
2010-01-04 08:18:41

I’m beginning to warm up to the idea that the ancient Jewish kingdoms and medieval Europe employed with the concept of Jubilee years where every seven years or so all debts were forgiven. Robust economic growth years 1-5, slight recession years 6-7. And you wouldn’t need an army of corruptible regulators, fewer tax dollars wasted.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 09:06:52

Did the creditors get to keep the collateral in a Jubilee?

Comment by polly
2010-01-04 11:22:30

Nope. All land reverted back to the original family that owned it in the jubilee which was a 50 year cycle - not sure if that applied to the 7 year cycle. All people who had sold themselves into slavery/indentured servitude had to go free in the 7th year unless they really liked it and specifically agreed to a longer term arrangement. It is possible they had to go free for the jubilee year anyway.

What you are really dealing with is a cycle where there will be only short term lending, the terms of which get shorter and shorter as you head toward a sabatical year. It imposes an economy that funds expansions mostly out of accrued capital, not out of borrowing. Severely limits the power of lenders.

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Comment by exeter
2010-01-04 18:59:09

I’ve always wondered why charlatans posing as Christians never hesitate to cherrypick authoritarian legalistic elements of the old testament like stoning people to death but completely forget things like the 7 year jubilee.

 
Comment by packman
2010-01-04 19:11:14

(scratches head)

What?

I’m not aware of Christians currently advocating either, nor of either being commonplace. Am I missing something?

 
Comment by eudemon
2010-01-04 19:20:53

I knew nothing about any of this. Thanks, guys, for an interesting read.

You never know what might prove fitful in the new national/world order of 2030.

This is going to be quite a ride going forward - harrowing for most.

 
Comment by reuven
2010-01-05 08:04:19

Jews believe that the jubilee year is a commandment straight from G-d. Leviticus 25:8

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0325.htm

Why Chr-stians feel they can pick and choose from the Hebrew bible is a mystery to me. In fact, Chr-stians, some say, are the cause of the bubble and bust. See this: http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/rosin-prosperity-gospel

(Jews, for the record, believe that all righteous people have a place in the world to come. People of all faiths and backgrounds. That’s why they don’t proselytize. Non-Jews are only obligated to follow the seven laws of Noah.)

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-01-05 09:46:02

Why Chr-stians feel they can pick and choose from the Hebrew bible is a mystery to me.

Maybe it’s because they read what many believe is its modifying sequel?

Jews believe that the jubilee year is a commandment straight from G-d.

Do Jews still follow the Jubilee requirements?

 
 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-01-04 20:15:55

We just did the Jubilee. (For the richest one tenth of one percent of Americans)

Is that what the Bible meant?

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-01-04 15:54:35

I don’t know that much about LaRouche but what are your main points here?

He believes that if governments do not play a strong role in directing national economies, the gap will be filled by several kinds of monopolies and cartels. It is because of this that LaRouche opposes Free Trade and globalism and supports protectionism.

Do you find great fault with this in light of America’s current situation?? Do you doubt that “monopolies and cartels have not shaped our perverted economy in absence of government looking out for our citizen’s rights?

A different example than America: Brazil practices protectionism and has added 35 million people to it’s middle class in the past 12 years. The price? More expensive consumer goods and people have jobs but less “stuff”.
Dr. Ravi Batra in his 1996 book “The Myth of Free Trade” The Pooring of America told of exactly where we’d be now. The benefit of “free trade” is a myth for the average American. We now have 30 years of declining living standards and pay to prove it. (but we have cheap microwave ovens!)

LaRouche maintains that supranational financial institutions such as the International Monetary Fund are committed to a policy of looting the living standards of the world’s populations through austerity and speculation, while contracting the actual productive base of these economies

Do you doubt some validity to this view? The world on the receiving end does not doubt it. John Perkins in his 2005 book, “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man” does not. “Perkins writes that his economic projections cooked the books Enron-style to convince foreign governments to accept billions of dollars of loans from the World Bank and other institutions to build dams, airports, electric grids, and other infrastructure he knew they couldn’t afford.” (Contracts given to US companies.)

LaRouche proposes a new international conference, modeled on the Bretton Woods conference, for the purpose of reorganizing a bankrupt monetary system, and eliminating most of the presently unpayable debt. For example, he advocates the retroactive cancellation of all financial derivatives contracts.

Is this a worse solution than how we are solving the same problems with taxpayer money bailouts in the USA?

He proposes that new credits be created for very large infrastructure projects all over the world;

What is the current state of Amercan infrastructure now? Is it good? Or is fixing roads Socialism too?

Comment by Sagesse
2010-01-04 19:02:40

A couple of years ago, there was a short documentary on German TV about a young British fellow who disappeared, right after attending some kind of introductory (indoctrinating?) “info”(?) session with LaRouche people. Witnesses said he came out in a very distraught state. He was never found, but described as a mentally and otherwise healthy life loving person. This was in a German midsize city, and a young woman was interviewed who said that she had belonged to the organisation (?) and it was like a sect. It all sounded very creepy and I shuddered.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:22:15

Exactly Rio, but we’ve all become completely brainwashed that the government actually HELPING the people is some kind of blasphemy, while the government contractors loot at will.

We complain about government pensions and pay, yet the contractors are costing us up to 4 times more.

“Smaller government” brought us a far, far more expensive government and we think it’s just grand that we ain’t got no damn socialeest/commie welfare.

Oh? Don’t we?

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 00:00:53

Excellent post, Rio (and all the commenters).

LaRouche might be “different” but I certainly don’t doubt his credibility any more than the credibility of the Fed, or the govt, or the people in charge of the MSM/propaganda machine.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:29:05

Main Street Americans = Wall Street’s & K Street’s bagholders…

* The Wall Street Journal
* REVIEW & OUTLOOK
* JANUARY 3, 2010, 9:02 P.M. ET

The Biggest Losers
Behind the Christmas Eve taxpayer massacre at Fannie and Freddie.

Happy New Year, readers, but before we get on with the debates of 2010, there’s still some ugly 2009 business to report: To wit, the Treasury’s Christmas Eve taxpayer massacre lifting the $400 billion cap on potential losses for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as well as the limits on what the failed companies can borrow.

The Treasury is hoping no one notices, and no wonder. Taxpayers are continuing to buy senior preferred stock in the two firms to cover their growing losses—a combined $111 billion so far. When Treasury first bailed them out in September 2008, Congress put a $200 billion limit ($100 billion each) on federal assistance. Last year, the Treasury raised the potential commitment to $400 billion. Now the limit on taxpayer exposure is, well, who knows?

Comment by gal
2010-01-04 17:15:56

“Now the limit on taxpayer exposure is, well, who knows?”
Good luck taxpayers we will own several trillions worth vandalized houses by 20… ?

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:32:47

Actions speak far more loudly than words. Nonetheless, I am mystified about how the Fed could possibly use interest rates to pop bubbles which are invisible to their blindered eyes?

Fed Chief: Rate Hikes Must Be an Option

The U.S. Federal Reserve must be open to raising interest rates to pop asset bubbles, even though stronger regulation remains the best solution to prevent a repeat of the crisis, Bernanke said Sunday.

* JANUARY 4, 2010

Fed Chief Edges Closer to Using Rates to Pop Bubbles
Bernanke Sees Monetary Policy as Potential Antidote, but Blames Lax Regulation — Not Central Bank Policies — for Housing Crisis

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:58:15

Here is another article for the “Actions speak more loudly than words” category. J K Galbraith discusses at length the standard post-financial-crisis political game of promising financial system reform with no follow-up. So long as the stock market is on a tear, and housing is going up again, why are financial reforms even needed?

* BUSINESS
* JANUARY 3, 2010, 8:27 P.M. ET

Much Talk, But Little Changed on Wall Street

By GREGORY ZUCKERMAN

So much has changed over the past year.

Or has it?

On the heels of the most harrowing period for financial markets since the Great Depression, politicians, regulators, investors and Wall Street executives shared a vow: never again. They would reform the system and change behavior to prevent another financial calamity.

Some significant changes have been made, such as slashing Wall Street’s debt, scrutinizing compensation, simplifying financial products and potentially increasing surveillance of financial markets.

But more than a year after Lehman Brothers, American International Group Inc., Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Washington Mutual collapsed or were saved by the government and financial markets swooned, it is striking how little on Wall Street has changed.

Indeed, the surge in markets around the globe last year suggests that fear has been replaced by relative complacency.

“We’ve been successful in identifying, appreciating, and debating the big systemic issues,” says Daniel Alpert, managing partner of Westwood Capital LLC, a New York investment bank. “But we’ve done precious little to effect measures that reliably protect the future of our global financial system.”

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:39:55

“J K Galbraith discusses at length the standard post-financial-crisis political game of promising financial system reform with no follow-up.”

cf. A Short History of Financial Euphoria

 
Comment by packman
2010-01-04 08:44:22

Amen to that. Very little has changed. Bonuses are setting new records. There are very little regulatory changes. The zero-interest money continues to flow. Rather than decreasing the systemic risk, it is very much increasing vis a vis centralization.

As to the “slashing Wall Street’s debt” comment - LOL. Wrong.

Financial Sector debt:
Jan. 1995: $3.8 Trillion
Jan. 2000: $7.4 Trillion
Jan. 2005: $12.0 Trillion
Jan. 2009: $17.1 Trillion (peak)
Oct. 2009: $16.5 Trillion (latest data available)

Yeah, that’s a real “slashing”. To the bone. How will Wall Street survive?

:roll:

 
 
Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:34:22

I fully expected this comment to massacre the equity markets today, but nope, we are seeing huge gains across the board.

I’ve decided that there is absolutely no rational drivers of the equity markets any more.

Comment by gal
2010-01-04 17:22:46

“I’ve decided that there is absolutely no rational drivers of the equity markets any more.”
Dear ” Spokaneman” you forgot Mr. Cramer & CNBC company who partly created “bull market” and inevitable crash… and they still control the hearts of “investors” same way as Hollywood stars control entertainment world…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:26:29

The system is rigged and gamed. The insiders and speculators control all.

Doesn’t mean you can’t make money, just CYA and beware.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 07:36:35

Here is a promising development. Now if only we could end taxpayer-subsidized TBTF insurance for Megabank, Inc, perhaps the U.S. banking industry could also be shrunken down to a competitive scale of operation.

Broker Exodus Drains Firms’ Clients

The ranks of brokers at major Wall Street firms have been shrinking, along with those firms’ share of the retail-investing market. At the same time, independent financial advisers are growing in number and market share.

Comment by polly
2010-01-04 08:12:36

So the Liar’s Poker guys are going independent out of their basements?

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:26:23

It’s great, isn’t it? Because basement operations are systemic risk free, and any liars involved in running them will be easily prosecuted for fraud.

 
 
Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 13:15:57

What idiocy! I can understand needing a doctor or a lawyer, but not a financial advisor. Particularly given their performance over the past dozen years. As oxide says, this is not rocket surgery.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:27:59

It is for a nation of people who can no longer do long division.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:01:07

The bubble-blind bozos at the Fed are now trying to place the blame for the previously-invisible bubble on someone else’s plate:

The Fed Lays Blame On Everyone Else

Posted: January 4, 2010 at 5:05 am
24/7 Wall St

The Federal Reserve was not to blame for any of the financial events that caused the collapse of the credit markets late in 2008. It is the same credit collapse that caused Congress to create the TARP so that the Treasury could bail out the faltering American banking system.

Ben Bernanke, the Fed chief, said at a meeting of the American Economic Association that “Stronger regulation and supervision aimed at problems with underwriting practices and lenders’ risk management would have been a more effective and surgical approach to constraining the housing bubble than a general increase in interest rates.”

That is a convenient truth that does not take into account the role that low interest rates may have played in the sharp rise of home prices. Many analysts have pointed out the Mr. Bernanke’s predecessor as head of the Fed, Alan Greenspan, was a proponent of variable rate mortgages. Those mortgages were a source, many economists argue, of unsafe home lending practices and the creation of mortgage-backed securities.

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 08:49:15

The same low rates which, BTW, continue unabated.

Scum. Pure unadulterated scum.

Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-01-04 10:33:14

Exactly - the low interest rates will continue forever, even as the dollar and what is left of our economy plunges off a cliff. The debt game must continue at all costs since The Masters of the Universe don’t actually PAY any of the costs for their actions.

 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-01-04 09:16:40

When the Feds could see the real estate market was heating up they could of raised the interest rates . But ,I think what was really needed was putting a stop to the low skin in the game toxic adjustable loans that were just used for leverage without proper qualifying . They should of know that there was no way that that many people were making this sort of income that could justify this sort of demand for the higher prices . It was clear what average incomes were so it should of been clear that there was no way that much demand was anything but a fraud loan market . Add to that that the paper was rated AAA ,regardless of how risky it was, and the madness would of continued for a while .

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 08:10:31

Puzzling development: Why does “better than expected” news on U.S. manufacturing result in a dollar sell off? Absent the twisted hand of Fed-engineered financial market distortion, shouldn’t a strengthening U.S. manufacturing sector lead to a stronger dollar?

From Bloomberg:

CURRENCY VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
EUR-USD 1.4424 0.0100 0.6946% 09:54
GBP-USD 1.6166 0.0014 0.0898% 09:54
USD-CHF 1.0301 -0.0051 -0.4931% 09:54
USD-SEK 7.0378 -0.1230 -1.7184% 09:54
USD-DKK 5.1591 -0.0380 -0.7321% 09:54
USD-NOK 5.6931 -0.0740 -1.2839% 09:54
USD-CZK 18.2140 -0.1721 -0.9360% 09:54
USD-SKK 20.8820 -0.1296 -0.6169% 09:54
USD-PLN 2.8366 -0.0262 -0.9169% 09:54
USD-HUF 186.4180 -1.9725 -1.0470% 09:54
USD-RUB 29.8950 -0.1400 -0.4661% 09:54
USD-TRY 1.4832 -0.0154 -1.0310% 09:53
USD-ILS 3.7520 -0.0185 -0.4906% 09:54
USD-KES 75.6000 -0.1750 -0.2309% 09:05
USD-ZAR 7.3325 -0.0578 -0.7818% 09:54
USD-MAD 7.8568 -0.0400 -0.5062% 09:54

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 08:54:51

Simple. Every time Bernanke speaks - like yesterday - it becomes clearer that there are no real intentions to significantly raise interest rates any time in the foreseeable future.

Combine that with no-end-in-sight $1.xT-per-year new fed debt, and voila - the dollar gets the new-year-blues.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 09:12:56

Bernanke’s message seemed clear to me. Like you say, he has no intention of stopping the wealth transfer by raising rates, and he will not take the blame for any consequences. Also, give him more power.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 10:29:20

Right — cheap talk without follow-up action has exactly the opposite effect of what would have been the result of action without cheap talk.

 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 08:46:40

Back from a very interesting trip to the East Coast. Had a chance to chat with a couple of HBB-ers (Polly and X-Philly) while back there. (Note to fellow HBB-ers: Your brethren and sister-en are even more fun when you talk to ‘em.)

Some observations:

1. There is still quite a glut of “for sale” signs in eastern Pennsylvania. This was especially true the closer in to Philadelphia one gets. And, judging from the looks of many of these places, they’re going to be a tough sell.

2. Dad and I took a day trip to Washington, DC. Coming into our nation’s capital by train is like taking a trip into Downtown Dumpington. The first aesthetically pleasing thing I saw was the inside of Union Station. The illusion of beauty didn’t last long. There’s quite a homeless encampment outside the station.

3. Baltimore (as seen from Amtrak) looked even worse. Block after block of abandoned, boarded up rowhouses. Sorry to say, but the best thing to do would be to bulldoze them. Too bad, because they were well-built structures.

4. The U.S. Capitol is an armed camp. Even saw a police officer with what looked to be a sniper rifle. All this for just a handful of tourists on a very cold day.

5. I flew and rode the train over the holidays. Guess which had the tighter security? If you guessed the Amtrak stations, you’re right.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 09:39:13

Thanks for sharing your holiday observations, Slim!

Riding the rails does indeed provide a helpful frame of reference for understanding our nation and society. Throughout the years I’ve constantly weighed my own similar observations from a train window with my other observations of shopping malls and neatly trimmed subdivisions. IMHO, understanding the real America requires exposure to both worlds.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 10:07:11

Traveling by rail was indeed fascinating. Especially when it came to shepherding my almost-deaf father around. Nothing like having to tell all those Amtrak security people to speak directly to him, lest he answer them with some completely off the wall statement. We had similar fun with the U.S. Capitol Police.

 
 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-01-04 10:35:33

“Baltimore (as seen from Amtrak) looked even worse. Block after block of abandoned, boarded up rowhouses. Sorry to say, but the best thing to do would be to bulldoze them. Too bad, because they were well-built structures.”

Bulldozing Baltimorgue would be an improvement. That city is an aspect of Mordor on Earth, a festering pit on the lands… And yet, buying overpriced rowhomes in “nice” parts of town (where you’re a few blocks from the ghetto) is all the rage down here in Maryland!

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 10:47:29

It’s all the rage in most cities from what I’ve seen.

 
Comment by polly
2010-01-04 11:28:43

Hey. Leave that aquarium up until I get a chance to see it. Better yet, move it to the basement of the Commerce Building with the other “National” acquarium. Of course, my understanding is that they would have to excavate a few more stories down to pull it off, but what is a few hundred million between friends?

Comment by ET-Chicago
2010-01-04 13:32:36

Better yet, move it to the basement of the Commerce Building with the other “National” acquarium.

The Bal’more Aquarium has it all over that sad little place on Constitution Ave.

Bulldozing Baltimorgue would be an improvement. That city is an aspect of Mordor on Earth, a festering pit on the lands…

Me, I love Baltimore — I hope it doesn’t slip. It’s a helluva lot more interesting place than DC.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 11:37:41

I forgot to mention that “upscale urban living” building near the Baltimore Amtrak station. A nice old building that the condo converters had gotten their hands on. Didn’t look to me like any of the units sold. So, now they’re for rent. And it didn’t look like the greatest of neighborhoods.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-01-04 11:23:39

2banana also lives in the cheesesteak capital of the free world!

 
Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:48:30

I’ve had the pleasure of seeing DC many times. For all of the problems we have, it is still an inspiring place for anyone with a love of history or civics.

One thing that always strikes me, though, as I look at all of the huge office buildings and the throngs of bureaucrats scampering this way at that (particularly at morning and evening rush hours and lunch time), is the sheer number of government bureaucrats, all wearing their little ID tags, each personally and institutionally committed to screwing up my life somehow. Whether it’s the department of the Treasury, HHS, HUD, Labor, Transportation, Education, Homeland Security, Commerce, Energy, EPA or Agriculture the list is endless.

I give an exemption to the Department of Defense despite my 60’s era draft registration (thanks for keeping me safe) and the department of interior, which is pretty inocuous, despite million dollar outhouses, State, Justice and the VA.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:33:13

You do know that most of them are contractors, right?

 
 
Comment by Sagesse
2010-01-04 19:07:45

Agree completely… the urban blight that you see from that train is quite something.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:35:42

It’s the same for almost every city in this country. From the train, we ARE a third world country. Well, second at least.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 08:50:43

Broke! Fixing America’s fiscal crisis
Reducing U.S. debt: Ideas from the Hall of Lame ~January 4, 2010:

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Only in the world of federal debt do tens of billions of dollars amount to little more than rounding errors.

Yet it’s the rounding errors that many lawmakers reach for when making impassioned speeches about reducing the debt.

Whatever merit their ideas may have, they don’t have a prayer of generating sizeable savings.

Sure, every little bit counts.

But “a little bit” doesn’t really move the needle when you’re talking about $12 trillion in accumulated debt, several trillion more expected over the next decade and tens of trillions more on top of that due to long-term shortfalls in Medicare and Social Security.

All told, the long-term fiscal shortfall could top $60 trillion over the next 75 years if nothing changes, said Robert Bixby, director of the Concord Coalition, a deficit watchdog group.

That’s why deficit hawks talk about the need to narrow the long-term “fiscal gap.” That’s a measure of how much money is needed every year starting now just to keep the debt-to-GDP ratio where it is today.

Estimates of that gap range anywhere from 4% to 9% of gross domestic product. In a $14 trillion economy, that means to close the gap altogether Uncle Sam would need to come up with $560 billion to $1.26 trillion a year.

Comment by Lip
2010-01-04 10:26:45

The only way to make our political class act responsibly is to make it economically beneficial to them if the US government balanced the budget. This is part of the WIIFM (whats in it for me) strategy of incentive programs.

Therefore, how about we start a petition program where the US House and Senante Employees would not get next years funding (their raises, their expense accounts nor their retirement accounts) if the government accounts are not balanced in the prior year. In other words no balance the budget, no money for bureaucracy.

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 10:43:34

That would be an awesome thing. Unfortunately no mouse has ever been actually willing to put a bell on that cat.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:39:54

Exactly.

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Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 08:55:27

Only 40,000 new laws for 2010…. slackers.

New Laws for 2010: No Texting, Trans Fats or Tanning Beds
2010 Also Allows Gay Marriage, Physical Therapay for Animals in New Hampshire and

Rules from tanning to texting: More than 40,000 new laws go into effect in 2010.

Beginning Jan. 1, 2010, Texas college freshmen and transfer students will need to be vaccinated against bacterial meningitis before they can live on campus. Restaurants in California can no longer use oils, margarine, or shortenings with more than half a gram of trans fat per serving. And stores in Louisiana can no longer sell lighters that appeal to children.

As always, a host of new laws take effect in the new year, ranging from the significant (same-sex couples will be able to marry in New Hampshire) to the bizarre (also in New Hampshire, physical therapists will be able to get certified to practice on animals).

More than 40,000 laws have been enacted by state legislatures in the past year, and at least 30 states have statutes that go into effect on New Year’s Day, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures (NCSL), which provides an annual round-up of such laws.

Among the more noteworthy:

Payday borrowers in Kentucky will be restricted to two loans of no more than $500 at a time, and payday lenders face tougher penalties if they lend to someone who has reached the maximum.

Oregon will require children under age 16 to wear a seat belt on any ATV or vehicle on public property, and will increase the fine for people riding a motorcycle without a helmet to $720.

In Texas, smoke detectors will need to be able to alert a hearing-impaired person if requested by a tenant.

In Montana, insurance companies will be required to provide coverage for autism-spectrum disorders.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 10:09:17

In Texas, smoke detectors will need to be able to alert a hearing-impaired person if requested by a tenant.

Personally, I favor this one.

As mentioned elsewhere on this blog, my father is almost deaf. He can’t hear any of the warning alarms in his car. Ditto for the alarm clock at home. Fortunately, he has my mother to wake him up.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-01-04 12:55:40

Slim they have big flashing light when a phone rings, so why not a flashing Red light for an emergency?

 
Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 13:10:46

Test a smoke alarm on him. They’re incredibly loud. Even some “deaf” people can hear them fine. Of course, they might become deaf after hearing them.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 13:26:45

If I know my mother, she’s tested all sorts of alarms. None of them work as well as her hollering at him.

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Comment by Rancher
2010-01-04 14:05:45

Thousands of years of conditioning usually works, my wife uses the same method.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 09:25:10

2010: Key Year in the Inflation/Deflation Debate

”The government’s legal-tender money — the dollar — is now under question. While the commercial-banking fractional-reserve monetary engine is stalled with loan write-downs and bank failures, the Federal Reserve has expanded its balance sheet like never before. Man of the Year Ben Bernanke is deathly afraid of deflation, and John Maynard Keynes is a hero again. The inflation cake is in the oven, albeit not quite fully baked.”

~ Doug French

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 09:56:06

Paraphrasing one of my comments from the other day - when the inflation cake is done, we won’t know it. The oven has a silent timer. This is because the price inflation will most likely - once again - be primarily focused in some area somehow not measured by too-ubiquitously-headline CPI number; be it housing, stocks, commodities, etc.

Maybe. Maybe they won’t get away with it this time, though.

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 10:02:16

P.S. I left out a biggie - health care.

An interesting tidbit from the BLS CPI methodology notes:

General Information on CPI Medical Care

The CPI measures inflation at the retail level, and reflects the average price change over time for a constant quality, constant quantity market basket of goods and services. In most cases it approximates what households spend out-of-pocket on goods and services used for day-to-day living. Therefore, medical care indexes are limited to items with an out-of-pocket expenditure, although in the case of medical care the term out-of-pocket includes any health insurance premium amounts that are deducted from employee paychecks.

(emphasis mine)

Being that 30 million people will soon be newly-insured, and thus see their out-of-pocket expenses go down (at the expense of the outside-of-CPI U.S. treasury and insurance company expenses) - is health care the next big “this-isn’t-really-inflation” price bubble?

Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 13:09:06

Health insurance premiums in our family (Health Net, Blue Cross and Kaiser) all have risen 20% per year for the past two years. And we’re healthy!

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-01-04 13:28:00

But you must understand that the insurance companies are really under the gun. Especially since they have to pay for those “defeat health insurance reform” lobbying efforts!

 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-01-04 14:29:22

REhobbyist
We pay $1,000/mo to Kaiser for 2 healthy adults, and when I was at the Rose Parade Float Exhibit this weekend, I asked the approximate cost of the Kaiser float and was told north of $160,000. What a waste of my premium dollar. Not to mention that $60M+ “Thrive” campaign. It makes me want to do a technicolor yawn. I hear ya.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:47:10

Some of those useless, stupid, ivory tower jackazzes should go out and do their own shopping once in a while.

I’ve got 25%+ inflation at my local grocery. And have for a year. In fact, YOY, I’ve seen 100% on many items.

I’ve also seen 10%+ on clothing.

Who ARE these eggsuckers?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 10:21:13

Woman Arrested for Punching Out McDonald’s Window Over McNuggets
January 04, 2010

TOLEDO, Ohio — Police say an Ohio woman punched through a McDonald’s drive-through window because she couldn’t get Chicken McNuggets.

Twenty-four-year-old Melodi Dushane has pleaded not guilty to a vandalism charge in Toledo. Police were called Friday to the restaurant where she allegedly became upset because chicken nuggets weren’t available.

Police say Dushane was treated for injuries, then jailed. She was released on a recognizance bond and ordered not to have contact with the restaurant. The phone number for her home address isn’t listed.

A manager at the McDonald’s declined Monday to discuss the incident.

A Fort Pierce, Fla., woman was cited last March on a charge of misusing 911 after calling three times to complain about not getting McNuggets she ordered.

Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-01-04 13:16:58

I guess the shouldn’t have bi#ched about that florida woman calling 911….. :)

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:50:37

Goldman Sachs material if I ever saw it! Hire those gals!

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 10:24:08

Economic Report

Jan. 4, 2010, 10:11 a.m. EST

Construction down seven straight months
Nov. spending down 0.6%, close to consensus

By Greg Robb, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Spending on U.S. construction projects fell in November, marking the seventh straight monthly decline, the government reported Monday.

Overall, spending on construction projects fell 0.6% in November, the Commerce Department said. This was close to consensus forecasts of Wall Street economists.

Adding to the sense of weakness in the report, there was another large downward revision to the prior month’s data.
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The government said spending fell 0.5% in October, compared with the initial estimate of no change.

The trend of large revisions to the construction data in this recession has irked economists.

Year over year, construction spending is down by 13.2% in November.

One area of strength in recent months — spending on private housing — fell 1.6% in November. The sector had been bolstered by the tax credit for first-time home buyers that sparked some home buying this fall. The tax credit has been extended until next June and broadened to include almost all home buyers.

Spending on private commercial construction projects fell slightly in November for the eighth consecutive monthly decline. Non-residential construction is down 20.6% in the past year.

Economists said that tight credit and the weak job market are two factors in a grim outlook for private nonresidential construction in 2010.

Overall private construction spending fell 0.7% in November after falling 0.8% in the previous month. Year-over-year private spending is down 20.0%.

Government public construction spending fell 0.4% after remaining flat in October. Government spending is up 2.7% over the past year as the government has been spending money trying to stimulate demand.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:51:43

More brown squirts!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 10:24:18

Credit Suisse sued over resorts, $24 billion sought ~ Jan 4, 2010

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Credit Suisse Group AG has been sued by property owners who said the Swiss bank schemed to defraud investors in four luxury resort communities, including the bankrupted Yellowstone Club.

The lawsuit filed on Sunday in federal court in Boise, Idaho, seeks $24 billion of damages against Credit Suisse and commercial real estate firm Cushman & Wakefield Inc, and class-action status for investors and property owners.

The alleged losses relate to Yellowstone, a ski resort whose members have included Microsoft Corp Chairman Bill Gates, as well as to Lake Las Vegas resort in southern Nevada, the Tamarack resort in central Idaho and Ginn sur Mer on Grand Bahama Island in the Bahamas.

Credit Suisse spokesman Duncan King said: “We believe the suit to be without merit, and will defend ourselves vigorously.”

Cushman & Wakefield and a lawyer for the plaintiffs did not immediately return calls seeking comment.

According to the complaint, Credit Suisse violated federal racketeering laws by concocting a “loan to own” scheme that inflated the value of resorts and burdened the resorts and purchasers of homes there with too much debt.

Using appraisal methodology provided by Cushman & Wakefield, this scheme allowed Credit Suisse to win “enormous fees,” and ultimately foreclose on or take control of resorts at well below market value, the complaint said.

“The scheme has been a financial heist for Credit Suisse with no risk,” the complaint said.

Comment by Real Estate Refugee
2010-01-04 18:21:45

This could be a blueprint for lawsuits against builders of large developments. I believe when many people bought into developments they used the builders’ appraiser and mortgage broker.

It’ll be interesting to see if there’s more of this in the future.

Comment by Sagesse
2010-01-04 19:19:41

In Park City, the developer of a super luxury subdivision called Promontory owed 275 million to Credit Suisse and defaulted.

Credit Suisse let him buy back the development for 70 million.

Just who is the one in the room who stinks, I am asking.

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 01:37:38

Comment by Real Estate Refugee
2010-01-04 18:21:45
This could be a blueprint for lawsuits against builders of large developments. I believe when many people bought into developments they used the builders’ appraiser and mortgage broker.

——————

This is exactly what I was thinking.

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 10:32:42

Economic Report

Jan. 4, 2010, 10:11 a.m. EST

Construction down seven straight months
Nov. spending down 0.6%, close to consensus

By Greg Robb, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Spending on U.S. construction projects fell in November, marking the seventh straight monthly decline, the government reported Monday.

Overall, spending on construction projects fell 0.6% in November, the Commerce Department said. This was close to consensus forecasts of Wall Street economists.

Adding to the sense of weakness in the report, there was another large downward revision to the prior month’s data.

The government said spending fell 0.5% in October, compared with the initial estimate of no change.

The trend of large revisions to the construction data in this recession has irked economists.

Year over year, construction spending is down by 13.2% in November.

One area of strength in recent months — spending on private housing — fell 1.6% in November. The sector had been bolstered by the tax credit for first-time home buyers that sparked some home buying this fall. The tax credit has been extended until next June and broadened to include almost all home buyers.

Spending on private commercial construction projects fell slightly in November for the eighth consecutive monthly decline. Non-residential construction is down 20.6% in the past year.

Economists said that tight credit and the weak job market are two factors in a grim outlook for private nonresidential construction in 2010.

Overall private construction spending fell 0.7% in November after falling 0.8% in the previous month. Year-over-year private spending is down 20.0%.

Government public construction spending fell 0.4% after remaining flat in October. Government spending is up 2.7% over the past year as the government has been spending money trying to stimulate demand.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 10:36:18

I guess the heloc homemoaners in Montana, have the same “equity rash” as in California, Arizona, Florida,…scratch, scratch, scratch… ;-)

Montana’s big sky views become bigger tax burdens:
By Kim Murphy, January 3, 2010 LA Times

“Abell already knew that property values in the Flathead — a new romping ground for Hollywood celebrities, sports stars and international CEOs — far exceeded what they were when he graduated from Whitefish High School. His 70-year-old house in the tax appraisal in 2002 was worth a stunning $553,900, thanks to its location right on the lake.

Now, though, the Montana Department of Revenue says Abell’s property is worth $2.64 million. The old cabin his brother’s living in? That one, because it sits on 4 acres, is worth $4.2 million.

Abell, who recently retired as president of the Whitefish Credit Union at the age of 70, just wrote a check for $9,200 for this year’s property taxes. He expects to owe at least twice that amount every year when the new appraisals take full effect in 2014 — an obligation that will quickly empty his modest retirement account.

His brother faces an annual tax bill of $30,462, which exceeds his entire annual income.”

Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 11:51:50

Exactly what led to Prop 13 in Ca in the 70’s.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 01:39:20

Precisely. And why it should never be repealed **for primary residences.**

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 21:57:22

Whoa. In Texas, anyone over 65 or disabled qualifies for a very reduced residential property tax.

 
 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-01-04 11:26:29

PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance, Co.) Predicts Home Prices Will Continue Descent Through Q1 2011
Carrie Bay | 07.07.09
http://www.nrba.com/article.cfm?id=215

Also, I like to follow the pension investment world to gather real estate objectivity:
NCREIF -National Council Of R E Investment Fuduciaries

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:40:00

Thanks — great info! For grins, I annualized the returns on the NCREIF Property Index (they give quarterly through Q3-2009 on the page linked in below…). 2009 is by far the worst year on record, at least through the third quarter (I annualized the first three quarters in 2009 to make the numbers comparable).

NCREIF Property Index Returns

The NCREIF Property Index is a quarterly time series composite total rate of return measure of investment performance of a very large pool of individual commercial real estate properties acquired in the private market for investment purposes only. All properties in the NPI have been acquired, at least in part, on behalf of tax-exempt institutional investors - the great majority being pension funds. As such, all properties are held in a fiduciary environment.

For more information on the NPI review the FAQ section titled “About the NCREIF Property Index”.

The table below represents historical Total returns for the NCREIF Property Index.

Year / Total Annual Return
1978 16.1%
1979 20.5%
1980 18.1%
1981 16.6%
1982 9.4%
1983 13.1%
1984 13.8%
1985 11.2%
1986 8.3%
1987 8.0%
1988 9.6%
1989 7.8%
1990 2.3%
1991 -5.6%
1992 -4.3%
1993 1.4%
1994 6.4%
1995 7.5%
1996 10.3%
1997 13.9%
1998 16.2%
1999 11.4%
2000 12.2%
2001 7.3%
2002 6.7%
2003 9.0%
2004 14.5%
2005 20.1%
2006 16.6%
2007 15.8%
2008 -6.5%
2009 -19.6%

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 01:41:38

Thanks for that, AW and PB.

 
 
 
Comment by Eau Claire Dude AKA Fresno Dude
2010-01-04 11:57:21

On front page of the of the Eau Claire Sunday newspaper, we have the headline “State, region see foreclosures jump”. To summarize, there were 30,642 foreclosures for 2009 and 25,541 in 2008 for Wisconsin, a 20% jump as noted on preliminary figures from ForeclosureAlarm dot com, a Madison based website which got the figures from court documents. For Eau Claire and Chippewa counties, the increase was the same. David FitzGerald, president of the Realtors Association of Northwestern Wisconsin said that foreclosures might keep rising nationally for 2010 because of high unemployment and teaser-rate mortgages.

By the way, on the back page of the second part of the newspaper, at www darwinawards com, (that commemorates those who improve our gene pool… by removing themselves from it) the award goes to two fellows in Belgium who used dynamite to make a withdrawal from an ATM. They were standing too close when the blast leveled the bank.

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-01-04 12:06:35

Oil rocketing up, still. At nearly $82 per barrel, things are starting to get interesting. It’s based solely upon speculation (and the dollar), but the economy doesn’t care what’s driving it. When J6P is already paying more than $3 per gallon on declining wages in the midst of a depression, this is garnering a bigger and bigger chunk of his take home pay. This does not bode well for the economy. $150 per barrel oil scored a TKO of the economy back in 2008, and I think that $100+ will do the exact same thing. This country just isn’t set up to handle those prices. That can change, but not without extraordinary amounts of pain for all involved.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 12:22:25

Oil Economics 101: Supply & Demand ;-)

We SUPPLY the need…the Cartel DEMANDS the price…

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 13:01:23

1/4/10 NEW YORK (AP) — Oil started the new year Monday trading above $81 a barrel, almost double what it fetched at the beginning of 2009 even though the U.S. is using much less.

Gasoline, heating oil and other fuels are already heading higher and may continue to do so as the market tests how much people are willing to pay for energy, analysts said

Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-01-04 13:20:14

market = speculators

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 13:37:53

Let me clarify: “Cartel”…it’s one of economics longest and most mysterious equations…OPEC, is just a portion of said equation. :-)

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-01-04 13:50:52

A person’s willingness to pay for energy is inversely proportional to the outside air temperature. (in winter anyways)

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 13:18:11

“…even though the U.S. is using much less.” ;-)

It’s a good thing that oil doesn’t go “bad” sloshing about in ships or resting around underground.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:28:48

The tricky part is the long-term demand adjustment process. As OPEC discovered in the post-70s period, when plankton dies, so do whales.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-01-04 14:00:03

Mexico is declining at 17% per year.
Ghawar is using water injection to help recovery,
water is now 50% of what’s brought up.
Horizontal drilling is tapping hard to hit deposits but it’s very expensive.
China’s and India’s appetite is growing.

you think the price is going to keep climbing?

ya think?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 12:54:37

“$150 per barrel oil scored a TKO of the economy back in 2008, and I think that $100+ will do the exact same thing”.

I believe we will find out, $90.00 to $100.00 oil would come as no surprise. Nat. gas will also keep rising, with this frigid winter.

Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 12:58:19

Temps Plunge to Record as Cold Snap Freezes North, East States…
Vermont sets ‘all-time record for one snowstorm’…
Iowa temps ‘a solid 30 degrees below normal’…
Power goes out at Reagan National outside DC…
Seoul buried in heaviest snowfall in 70 years…
Peru’s mountain people ‘face extinction because of cold conditions’…
Beijing — coldest in 40 years…
World copes with Arctic weather…

~ Headlines clipped from the Drudge report ~

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:27:32

Global warming certainly is exacting a devastating toll!

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Comment by cactus
2010-01-04 14:04:48

“It’s based solely upon speculation (and the dollar), but the economy doesn’t care what’s driving it. ”

Goldman Sachs and the speculators need another Adrenaline rush they are getting bored again

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:00:39

2009 bankruptcies total 1.4 million as recession pushes filings toward historical highs.

RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — U.S. consumers and businesses are filing for bankruptcy at a pace that made 2009 the seventh-worst year on record, with more than 1.4 million petitions submitted.

An Associated Press tally found 1.43 million filings, an increase of 32 percent from the previous year. There were 116,000 recorded bankruptcies in December, up 22 percent from the same month a year before.

Filings have been rising steadily each year since the beginning of 2006, shortly after Congress overhauled the U.S. bankruptcy system.

Bankruptcies surged to around 2 million in 2005 as consumers rushed to file before the new law took effect but then plummeted in 2006. They’ve been climbing ever since.

The West saw a particularly fast rise in 2009, with Arizona jumping 77 percent and Wyoming up 60 percent from 2008.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:25:57

“2009 bankruptcies total 1.4 million as recession pushes filings toward historical highs.”

Not to worry, so long as stocks and housing are going up again…

 
Comment by SouthFL
2010-01-04 14:04:07

My husband is a bankruptcy attorney. For every 5 potential clients he sees - only 4 even have enough money to file the bankruptcy. So there is a “shadow inventory” of potential bankruptcy filers too.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 14:09:40

How much does that cost?

 
Comment by SouthFL
2010-01-04 14:10:14

Ooops - got that backward. Up all night with a teething toddler so brain is fuzzy. Of the 5 potential clients he sees, 4 do NOT have the money to file. Only 1 does.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-01-04 17:31:43

So those 4 will have judgments outstanding so when they do hit the lottery or get a good job or income tax refund…wham-OH attach the paychecks…

Or else they are planning to appear in court everytime they are sued and tell a judge I’m Broke and get it dismissed. (unlikely)

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:03:43

There used to be a late night TV ad here many, many years ago. It went like this:

“Pay my bills?! I can’t even afford to go bankrupt!!”

“Dial LAW 1000″

At the time I thought it was funny. Later in life I was to find out how true it really was.

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Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:06:26

Rite-Aid December sales decline ~ Pittsburgh Business Times

Drugstore chain Rite Aid Corp. saw a decline in same-store sales in December, the company announced Monday.

For the four weeks ended Dec. 26, same-store sales were down 1.8 percent for the Camp Hill-based company. Total drugstore sales for the four-week period were down 3 percent, to $2.091 billion, compared with $2.155 billion a year earlier.

Year-to-date same-store sales for the 43-week period ended Dec. 26 were down 0.5 percent, with total drugstore sales down 2 percent to $21.22 billion.

Rite Aid (NYSE:RAD) reported its tenth consecutive quarterly loss in December. It saw a third-quarter loss of $83.9 million, or 10 cents per share, for the quarter ended Nov. 28.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 13:23:57

Bad news for one of my r-ball partners (himself a Rite Aid manager). They already took away some of his perks and added to his workload last year in response to the economic situation…

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-01-04 14:05:27

Here Walgreens opened a new store right across the street from the Rite Aid. Wasn’t that the Burger King business model?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 14:09:54

Silly question of the day: Does the Mega-Pharmaceutical Industry CORPORATIONS sell directly to the US public citizens?

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Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:13:45

Tweets, sexting “unfriended” in U.S. banned word list.

KANSAS CITY (Reuters) – If you recently tweeted about how you were chillaxin for the holiday, take note: Fifteen particularly over- or mis-used words and phrases have been declared “shovel-ready” to be “unfriended” by a U.S. university’s annual list of terms that deserve to be banned.

After thousands of nominations of words and phrases commonly used in marketing, media, technology and elsewhere, wordsmiths at Lake Superior State University on Thursday issued their 35th annual list of words that they believe should be banned.

Tops on the Michigan university’s list of useless phrases was “shovel-ready.” The term refers to infrastructure projects that are ready to break ground and was popularly used to describe road, bridge and other construction projects fueled by stimulus funds from the Obama administration.

And speaking of stimulus, that word — which was applied to government spending aimed at boosting the economy — made the over-used category as well, along with an odd assortment of Obama-related constructions such as Obamacare and Obamanomics.

“We say Obamanough already,” the LSSU committee said.

Also ripe for exile is “sexting,” shorthand for sexy text messaging, a habit that has caused trouble this year for public figures from politicians to star athletes.

Similarly, list makers showed distaste for tweeting, retweeting and tweetaholics, lingo made popular by users of the popular Twitter networking website. And don’t even get them started on the use of friend as a verb, as in: “He made me mad so I unfriended him on Facebook,” an Internet social site.

Male acquaintances need to find another word than “bromance” for their friendships, and the combination of “chillin” and “relaxin’” into “chillaxin” was an easy pick for banishment.

VOTED OUT

Also making the list was “teachable moment.”

“This phrase is used to describe everything from potty-training to politics. It’s time to vote it out!” said one list contributor.

“Toxic assets,” referring to financial instruments that have plunged in value, sickened list makers so much the phrase was added to the list, along with the tiresome and poorly defined “too big to fail” which has often been invoked to describe wobbly U.S. banks.

Similarly, “in these economic times” was deemed overdue for banishment due.

Also making the list — “transparent/transparency,” typically used, contributors said, when the situation is anything but transparent.

One list contributor wanted to know if there was an “app,” short-hand for “application” popularized by the mobile iPhone’s growing array of software tools, for making that annoying word go away.

And rounding out the list — “czar” as in car czar, drug czar, housing czar or banished word czar.

“Purging our language of ‘toxic assets’ is a ’stimulus’ effort that’s ‘too big to fail,’” said a university spokesman.

Comment by Elanor
2010-01-04 14:50:45

I vote for “at the end of the day” to be removed from all public discourse, especiallly if it’s being said by anyone who’s appearing on teevee.

Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 15:00:46

+100

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:07:14

BRAWNDO! IT’S GOT ELECTROLITES!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:28:15

VDOT issues 678 layoff notices; Staffing reduction plan completed.

The Virginia of Department of Transportation started its final wave of position eliminations Monday.

To meet a required reduction of staffing to 7,500 full-time employees by July 1, 2010, the department started issuing 678 layoff notifications Monday.

“This final stage of staffing reductions has forced the agency to make challenging personnel decisions, but does fulfill its requirement to reduce staffing levels to 7,500 positions,” said David S. Ekern, VDOT commissioner. “We have strategically shifted our staffing structure to eliminate redundancies in administrative and business support functions while ensuring our emergency and incident response commitments can be met statewide. VDOT will be a stronger, more focused, more efficient agency as we progress into the next decade.”

These reductions are a portion of a three-part plan called the Blueprint for the Future.

In June 2009, VDOT reduced 450 hourly wage positions. The second wave of employee reductions took place in fall 2009. During that period, more than 500 full-time positions were reduced.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 13:29:50

(Hwy wonders how long x2 al-Qaida operatives can live & sleep in a 100 sf rental @ $27,000…is it possible that they have “acquired” gps coordinates for this icon of sheikdom extravagance?) ;-)

January 04, 2010 Bloomberg
Dubai Opens Tallest Tower Partially Leased in Slump:

“While mainly residential, the building will have 37 floors of office and retail space.”

“Apartment prices in the tower, formerly known as Burj Dubai, have fallen to less than half of the 10,000 dirhams ($2,700) a square foot that they reached at the 2008 peak.”

Comment by Sagesse
2010-01-04 19:27:36

There are 120 floors and the building is 800 meters tall. So you get a 24 foot ceiling for your 2700 dollars per square foot, or maybe more even.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 20:33:36

Jackie Wilson said : “Here I am…happy cleaning windows” by Van Morrison ;-)

“There’s around 24,000 windows in total, I think it’s about 120,000 square metres of glass,” he said.

Aussie company cleans up with Burj contract:

An Australian company has been awarded the contract to clean every window on the world’s tallest building.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 01:54:14

An Australian company has been awarded the contract to clean every window on the world’s tallest building.
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Can you imagine doing **that** job? There is not enough money in the world for me to do it.

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Comment by REhobbyist
2010-01-04 13:31:54

Dollar carry trade makes a comeback today. Darn.

Has FPSS checked in with his/her predictions for 2010? Inquiring minds want to know.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:32:08

Across many industries the cuts continue. Although the numbers may be reduced, in most cases it does not appear that many companies are counting on a quick economic rebound.

ALCOA to cut 90 jobs at Tennessee Operations
Voluntary severance packages offered
January 04. 2010

ALCOA is cutting 90 jobs at Tennessee Operations, the company told employees today.

The workforce reduction is necessary to “align workforce needs with business volumes for 2010″ in the plant’s Rigid Packaging Division location, the company said in a statement.

Management is working with local union representatives to minimize the number of layoffs, according to the company.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:41:22

Real Estate Poses Risk to U.S. Recovery, Ryding Says

Jan. 4 (Bloomberg) — The commercial real estate market poses a threat to the U.S. recovery, said John Ryding, chief economist at RDQ Economics in New York.

“We have yet to see the full extent of those problems,” Ryding said today in an interview on Bloomberg Radio.

The housing market, which plunged the economy into recession, also remains fragile, Ryding said.

“Maybe housing credit has gotten ahead of itself,” he said. “I don’t think we’re out of the woods yet on the write- off situation.”

Regarding the labor market, “our feeling is we will see a small positive number” in the government’s report on non-farm payrolls in December, Ryding said. He didn’t provide an estimate.

Payrolls probably fell by 4,000 workers last month, the smallest drop since the recession began two years ago, according to the median of 66 economists surveyed by Bloomberg News ahead of a Jan. 8 Labor Department report. The unemployment rate may have climbed to 10.1 percent from 10 percent.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:42:50

Blackstone’s Wien Sees GDP Growth, Unchanged Stocks.

Jan. 4 (Bloomberg) — Blackstone Group LP’s Byron Wien, who correctly predicted rallies in equities, gold and oil last year, said U.S. gross domestic product will expand almost twice as fast as economists forecast in 2010 while the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index ends the year unchanged.

An advance in stocks in the first half will give way to losses as the S&P 500 drops as low as 1,000 before finishing 2010 where it began, Wien said in his annual “Ten Surprises” list, published since 1986. As real economic growth climbs toward 5 percent, the Federal Reserve will start boosting interest rates in the second quarter, pushing its target for overnight loans between banks to 2 percent, he said.

“Even though the economy is strong and earnings exceed expectations, rising interest rates and full valuations present a problem” for stocks, said Wien, 76. “Concern about longer- term growth and obligations to reduce leverage at both the public and private level unsettle investors.”

Comment by In Colorado
2010-01-04 14:06:41

Hmmm…. I’m smelling an “unexpected” in a future followup to this.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 13:51:47

Vietnam shuts down gold exchanges.

VietNamNet – All gold transactions on account will end and gold trading floors will be closed no later than March 30, 2010, in accordance with the Prime Minister’s decision.

Prime Minister Nguyen Tan Dung has decided to shut down gold exchanges within 90 days after December 30, 2009. This means that gold trading floors, where investors trade gold on account, will not be allowed to operate in Vietnam after March 30, 2010.

The decision has put an end to the long argument on whether to shut down gold trading floors and how to manage them.

The proposal to shut down gold exchanges was initially made by the State Bank of Vietnam, which believes that gold exchanges do not benefit the national economy and a lot of investors have lost all their money due to harassed gold investment deals.

The proposal faced strong opposition from gold trading floors’ runners and experts, who believe that such as decision violates current laws.

Other experts do not debate the decision to shut down gold exchanges and law violations, but they agree that it is not as difficult to manage gold exchanges as previously thought.

The Ministry of Finance announced that it was considering taxing gold investors. The announcement brought joy to gold investors who thought that taxation meant the permanent existence of the gold exchanges.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 14:04:57

Darwin Award winners revealed.

Two bank robbers have been declared winners of the 2009 Darwin Awards after they blew themselves up while trying to crack open a cash machine.

The Belgian pair used so much explosive to get their hands on the money that they destroyed the whole bank building.

When police arrived at the scene, they found one of them with severe head injuries, and rushed him to hospital where he died shortly after arrival.

Investigators initially assumed that his accomplice had managed a getaway, but the second one’s body was excavated from the debris twelve hours later.

Wendy Northcutt, the founder of the annual awards, declared them the 2009 winners of the Darwin Awards, given to those “doing the most to improve the human gene pool by removing themselves from it”.

The bank robbers just edged ahead of their main rival Shawn Motero who was stuck in a traffic crawl in Florida when he needed to answer a call of nature.

With no toilet handy, he got out of the car before jumping over a concrete wall to find a more secluded spot.

Unfortunately, the 30-year-old had not realised he was on a bridge, and fell 65 feet to his death. Award organisers said it proved you should “look before you leak”.

In third place was the first ever woman to be nominated for the award. Rosanne Tippett drove her moped into a flooded river, despite the warning signs.

She was rescued by police, but died after jumping back into the river in an attempt to recover the two-wheeler.

Comment by Spokaneman
2010-01-04 17:44:12

On the West Side of WA, we had a candidate for a Darwin award for 2010. Seems that a 17 year old was attempting to siphon a little gas out of a vehicle and decided to light a smoke while the gas was running into his container. Results as expected, he received burns over 30% of his body (pretty lucky at that). Maybe he will remove himself from the gene pool.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 14:28:51

Useful advice is offered on this program on how to stay off the receiving end of Megabank, Inc’s efforts to scam you.

Reporter’s Secrets To Smart Consumption 2.0

January 4, 2010
Listen to the Story

Fresh Air from WHYY
[39 min 3 sec]

For his reporting on online fraud and cybersecurity, Bob Sullivan received the Society of Professional Journalists Public Service Award in 2002 and an award from the Carnegie Mellon Cylab in 2003.

Before Microsoft was charged with monopoly and Facebook users debated the limits of public profiles, reporter Bob Sullivan was investigating computer crime, electronic privacy, and consumer affairs.

These days, you can read Sullivan’s solutions to “21st Century headaches” on msnbc dot com, where he runs a technology blog, The Red Tape Chronicles.

Sullivan’s new book, Stop Getting Ripped Off: Why Consumers Get Screwed And How You Can Always Get A Fair Deal, is a guide to informed consumption. He joins Terry Gross to talk about the traps consumers fall into when dealing with credit card and cell phone companies, banks, and an old favorite: car salesmen.

Sullivan is a New York Times best-selling author and a regular on CNBC’s On The Money, NBC’s Nightly News, and The Today Show.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 16:56:26

(Hwy wonders what type of car Herbert the Banker was driving we he had his “driveway moment” …Toyota, KIA, Honda, Nissan, Subaru…?) ;-)

From the comments section:

Herbbie the Banker: “Oh the tales we could tell.”

Herbert Clark (Herb1492) wrote:

“I listened to your interview of Mr. Sullivan on the way to lunch and took a “driveway moment”. First, I admit to being a banker. Secondly, many of his remarks were so blatantly on the side of consumerism and wildly over simplified as to raise my dander. It is noteworthy that the segemnt I heard did not (not once) place any accountability at the feet of the consumers he champions. They do not need to know how to read, study or analyze anything. They are not responsible to keep an accurate record of transactions in a checkbook nor reconcile a bank statement. Apparently his point or ultimate wish is that “the government will take care of them”. I am greatly disappointed that your program does not see any merit in inviting someone to offer counterpoint; or that you invite someone with so obvious an agenda without doing some research yourselves. Oh the tales we could tell.”

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:17:06

Banks have been proven beyond any doubt that they will stack your account transactions to trigger overdraft fees.

Among other little games they play.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 22:57:33

“…They do not need to know how to read, study or analyze anything. They are not responsible to keep an accurate record of transactions in a checkbook nor reconcile a bank statement.”

Must be a type of “Bankers Freudian slip” of some kind. ;-)

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 15:10:09

IRS Proposes Tax Preparer Regulations.
Monday, 4 Jan 2010 ~~ Reuters

The U.S. tax agency will propose new rules to regulate paid tax preparers, including mandatory registration with the government and competency testing for those not already subject to professional exams.

With more than 80 percent of Americans using a tax preparer or software to complete their tax returns, the new rules are aimed at boosting standards within a fragmented industry and increasing revenue to the government, Internal Revenue Service Commissioner Doug Shulman said in a statement Monday.

“It’s critical to taxpayers and it’s also critical to the revenues of the country,” Shulman said in a briefing with reporters.

Comment by Kim
2010-01-04 15:59:13

This is a good thing IMO - or at least as good as it gets until they simplify the whole darn tax code. I found six errors on the 2008 return my CPA prepared. Worse, she went ahead and e-filed before DH and I were able to review it. CPA filed an amended for us, but it took 11 months to clear out leftover problems. I’ll be preparing my own tax returns this year.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-01-04 16:41:41

Kim-
What an incompetent boob. What chutzpah to file a return on your behalf, prior to your & DH’ review.
We use Turbo Tax (Personal/Business version) and last year’s revision wasn’t user friendly. Hopefully, they changed it back. We’ve been generally happy with it.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 15:19:52

This war on terror is a joke ~ 03rd January 2010 (UK)

The great Jewish-American entertainer Tom Lehrer said he gave up writing satirical songs when he realised that nothing he wrote could compete with the reality of U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize after authorising the bombing of neutral Cambodia during the Vietnam War.

I wonder what Lehrer would say about President Barack Obama, who ordered two Cruise missile attacks on targets in Yemen a week before Christmas, allegedly killing 49 civilians, including 17 women and 23 children.

But now there’s speculation that the attack prompted Al Qaeda to send the 23-year-old suicide bomber they trained, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, on the Detroit-bound jet.

The old Lehrer joke wasn’t lost on the Iranians.

An official Tehran news website noted: ‘U.S. Nobel Peace Prize laureate President Barack Obama has signed the order for a recent military strike on Yemen in which scores of civilians, including children, have been killed.’

Now Gordon Brown gets in on the act, announcing a global terrorism summit in London on January 28 and £100 million in aid to Yemen to ‘combat terrorism’.

Watching Brown bluster on TV yesterday about what he’s doing to combat terrorism must have been a dispiriting experience for viewers.

It’s so obvious he seizes on this - as he did with the banking crisis - to parade before us as an international statesman.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 16:22:18

“…But now there’s speculation that…” ;-)

“The attack prompted Al Qaeda to send the 23-year-old suicide bomber they trained, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, to Jackson Wyoming, but there wasn’t a direct connection…”

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:20:15

I hate these kinds of articles. Yellow journalism at its finest.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:21:26

…and Yemen is a frickin’ s ‘hole.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-01-04 15:45:10

Triangle loses 10,000 construction jobs. ~~ Triangle Business Journal

The Raleigh-Cary area shed construction workers at a faster clip than any other metro in the state in November, according to the Associated General Contractors of America, an Arlington, Va.-based trade group.

Raleigh-Cary shed 8,800 construction jobs during the month, bringing employment in the sector to 27,800, down 24 percent from November 2008, AGC reported.

Meanwhile, Durham and Chapel Hill shed 1,200 construction jobs in the month, a 12 percent decline from 2008.

In other metros, Charlotte dropped 9,400 jobs in November, down 19 percent from Nov. 2008, while Greenville and Wilmington gave up 700 and 1,900 jobs, respectively, for drops of 18 percent.

Nationally, AGC says, construction employment declined in 324 of 337 metros, as construction spending shrank by $137 billion in November, hitting a six-year low.

Comment by Kim
2010-01-04 15:50:22

How many banking jobs were lost there?

Comment by packman
2010-01-04 19:07:37

Or government jobs?

 
 
 
Comment by measton
2010-01-04 16:39:12

Isn’t this the definition of moral hazard

Jan. 4 (Bloomberg) — To understand the meaning of no good deed goes unpunished, Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner can look no further than Wall Street where the banks that received the biggest taxpayer bailouts are seeking to reap trading profits from securities rescued by the government.

Only months after it was started, the U.S. program designed to purge debts of no immediate discernable value from the balance sheets of troubled banks has helped transform the frozen debt into a money-maker as the bonds have rallied. Bank of America Corp. and Citigroup Inc., who received 22 percent of the $418.7 billion American taxpayers loaned to troubled financial institutions, boosted holdings on their trading books of home- loan bonds that lack government guarantees while investors were raising cash for the program, according to Federal Reserve data.

Charlotte, North Carolina-based Bank of America along with Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs Group Inc., all based in New York, added a combined $3.36 billion of the debt, for which there were few buyers as recently as March, to their short-term trading assets during the third quarter, up 16 percent from the second quarter, the most-recent data show.

Prices of these securities may slump again, leaving the banks exposed to potential losses that the Treasury Department’s rescue plan was designed to mitigate, said Joshua Rosner, a managing director at New York-based Graham Fisher & Co., which advises regulators and institutional investors.

Prices may slump again, who cares, the FED will just buy them at 99 cents on the dollar. Weeee

 
Comment by Muggy
2010-01-04 16:56:09

Shit, wifey fell in love with a house today. 4/2/2 Sold for $460k in ‘06, our Realtor thinks $220k is reasonable — that’s about what it sold for in 1999. I’m slipping… The rental inventory here sucks.

HBB emergency conference NOW! Talk me off the ledge…

Comment by exeter
2010-01-04 19:00:48

Offer $60k.

 
Comment by packman
2010-01-04 19:14:36

See T2 report mentioned above. Read it. It’s got lots of pretty pictures too. Show her slide 80.

Comment by Muggy
2010-01-04 20:55:48

I found the site, but I cannot find the article or slides referenced here. Any help is appreciated… thanks

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 02:11:30

Offer $185K. You’ve got nothing to lose.

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Comment by measton
2010-01-04 16:57:15

As tax collections in Wisconsin declined by a whopping $8.7 billion last year along with the recession, taxes as a share of state residents’ income dropped to their lowest levels since 1970, a new report shows.

The report Monday by the Wisconsin Taxpayers Alliance shows taxes accounted for 28.8 percent of state residents’ personal income in 2009, down from 33.7 percent in 2008. That was the lowest share of state income taken by taxes since 1970, said research analyst Kyle Christianson.

The federal, state and local taxes collected in Wisconsin dropped to $61.2 billion in 2009 from $69.9 billion in 2008 as the recession churned through the state’s economy. But the personal income in the state is still estimated by the federal government to have risen a modest 2.5 percent in 2009 to $212.6 billion.

OK personal income up 2.5% but total taxes down >10%. 1+2=3??? I wish they had a better breakdown of local state and federal.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:25:02

Record unemployment in 2009 and they “estimate” personal income rose?

I think I might just see the problem here…

 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2010-01-04 18:21:31

Didn’t we all see this coming…

ATLANTA, Jan 4 (Reuters) - U.S. earnings inequality has continued to rise despite the hit to the wealthy from the country’s financial crisis, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The figures confound speculation among some economists that the worst recession since the 1930s might actually reduce the nation’s income gap because of its impact on the banking sector.
The top 10 percent of Americans take home between 40 percent and 50 percent of country’s total earnings, the data show.
“Inequality, by all measures, has increased,” said James Spletzer, economist at the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. He was speaking at a conference sponsored by the Association for Social Economics.

Yeah, Obama is a socialist all right. Obamanomics is twice as good Reaganomics and the numbers prove it!
The Eddies’ of the world are our new masters.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-01-04 22:28:10

We’re rated third in the world of income gap between rich and poor. Turkey takes top honors with Mexico in second.

Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 02:15:19

That’s exactly where we’re headed, eco.
——————–

Not sure why this should be “confounding”? Practically every penny of “stimulus” this year was directed toward the richest people in the U.S. In addition, the stock market is WAY up, as are most “investments” where you’ll find capitalists who are trying to increase their share of the pie. What else would they have expected?

 
 
 
Comment by packman
2010-01-04 19:25:12

Ouch. So the fed debt in the last two days of 2009:

12/29: 12,100B
12/30: 12,144B
12/31: 12,311B

$211 Billion jump in 2 days.

 
Comment by Faster Pussycat, Sell Sell
2010-01-04 19:34:13

Happy New Year, all!

I’m off on a bit of an “epic” vacation to India. I’ll catch y’all whenever I get back.

It’s time the bubble-istas had a good time.

Me, my camera and my potty-mouth will be back in a “while”.

Hold the fort down for me!

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 19:42:46

Happy New Year & Be safe!

 
Comment by CA renter
2010-01-05 02:16:35

Happy New Year, FPSS, and enjoy your trip! We look forward to your return. :)

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-01-04 19:56:29

BWAHAHAHicHAHAHicHAHAHAHAHicHAHAHic* (DennisN™)

Bankrupt in O.C., developer opens world’s tallest building:
January 4th, 2010, by Jon Lansner OC Register

“Dubai opened the world’s tallest skyscraper today, and in a surprise move renamed the gleaming glass-and-metal tower Burj Khalifa in a nod to the leader of neighboring Abu Dhabi — the oil-rich sheikdom which came to its rescue during the financial meltdown. Dubai is opening the tower in the midst of a deep financial crisis. Its oil rich neighbor Abu Dhabi has pumped billions of dollars in bailout funds into the emirate as it struggles to pay its debts.

Let’s hope Emaar does better at high rises in its own neighborhood than it did on investing in U.S. real estate. Emaar lost $1.6 billion buying Orange County homebuilder John Laing in 2006 — at the peak of the American housing boom. Laing is being liquidated in bankruptcy court.” :-)

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-01-04 23:35:08

It seems like a great time to have global warming and not global cooling about now…

* The Wall Street Journal
* U.S. NEWS
* JANUARY 5, 2010

Cold Blast Spreads Shivers
Temperatures Plummet From Minnesota to Florida; St. Joseph, Mo., Hits Minus-16

By CHRIS HERRING and ANN ZIMMERMAN

An Arctic blast swept across a large swath of the U.S. on Monday, sending temperatures plunging from Minnesota to Florida and bringing a bone-chilling start to the first workweek of the year.

Growers in Florida kept a close eye on citrus groves, concerned that further cold could damage their crops, while icy roads gave children in Arkansas an extra day of winter break.

Temperatures fell below zero from the Great Plains to the Northeast, following a weekend of heavy snow. The reading of minus-16 degrees in St. Joseph, Mo., Monday marked the city’s coldest Jan. 4 since 1947, while minus-37 in International Falls, Minn., Sunday was the coldest there since 1911, said Frank Pereira, a meteorologist at the National Weather Service.

Dallas, Jacksonville, Fla., and Little Rock, Ark., fell nearly 20 degrees below their average temperatures for this time of year on Monday, he said.

The cold snap is one of the nation’s most widespread since January 1985, according to meteorologists at Accuweather.com. While the cold is expected to ease slightly starting Thursday, this winter is on track to be one of the coldest in the past decade or two, said Ken Reeves, director of forecasting operations at Accuweather dot com.

 
Comment by Bob G.
2010-01-05 07:59:37

I’m looking for some opinions on my particular situation.

I’ve been renting an apartment in Tampa for 5 years. It converted to condo about 3 years ago. Someone bought it for $260,000 and I started paying them rent. Last week I was served foreclosure paperwork and found out the buyer hasn’t made a payment in about 6 months. Should I continue to pay them rent (I never signed a lease when they took it over)? Or should I contact the bank and start paying them?

BTW, I could probably purchase it now for $70,000.

 
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