Bits Bucket For February 16, 2010
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
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Fed carries losses from Bear portfolio.
FT ~ New York ~ February 15 2010 23:45
The US Federal Reserve is sitting on significant paper losses on the real estate assets it acquired in the Bear Stearns rescue, with much of the red ink coming from debt used to back some of the most high-profile buy-out deals of the bubble years.
Among the debts weighing on the central bank’s portfolio are those used in financing the acquisitions of Hilton Hotels, which is being restructured, and hotel operator Extended Stay, which is in bankruptcy, people familiar with the matter say.
The Fed holds these and other real estate assets in a vehicle known as Maiden Lane I, which was set up to pave the way for JPMorgan Chase’s purchase of Bear. At the time the deal was struck in March 2008, JPMorgan feared that if it bought all of Bear’s assets it would be left with too much exposure to the real estate market. Bear, for example, originally had $5.4bn of Hilton debt, a huge concentration
The assets in Maiden Lane I – all of which came from Bear’s mortgage desk – were originally valued at $30bn when a final agreement on the portfolio was reached in June 2008 by the New York Fed, its advisers at asset managers BlackRock and JPMorgan. At the end of 2009 the Fed said the assets were worth $27.1bn (€20bn, £17.4bn).
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b3898a44-1a62-11df-a2e3-00144feab49a.html?ftcamp=rss
So… duh.
I guess this will all just come from the Fed’s bottom line, and thus hurt its share price. Oh wait - the Fed’s not a public company. And oh wait, the Fed has the legal ability to print its own money. Never mind.
I wish I had a rich uncle that I could get to do all my shady deals.
Fed sitting on losses? No way!
What is the difference between a treasury printing press and a toilet paper perforating/emboss/printing machine?
Charmin is king.
“I wish I had a rich uncle that I could get to do all my shady deals.”
Auuh…but you do. Your old Uncle Sam and he’s a big time gambler.
“Let it all …ride ! ”
Exactly. He just may not be your favorite uncle.
The British feel they are entitled to a 5-bedroom house!
http://stossel.blogs.foxbusiness.com/2010/02/15/entitled-to-a-five-bedroom-house/comment-page-4/?action=late-new
Ties in with all the tax increases they are and will experience (as will the U.S.) Lot’s of “deserving” going on in the world.
“A single mother-of-six is getting more than £80,000 [$125,000] a year from the taxpayer to live in a £2million mansion in an exclusive London suburb”.
“Serious freeloaders should move to England”.
Sounds like a nice deal, altho I would avoid the 6 kids like the plague. I always found my one to be plenty….the poor in Britain have come a long way from Whitechapel, eh ?
I always found my one to be plenty…
My parents said the same thing. Many times, in fact.
Essma Marjam
Nothing like paying for a 5 bedroom house for a recent mulsim immigrant. Don’t worry - her 6 kids will resent and hate England when fully grown.
Downtown Boynton condo hopes discounts bring Promenade of buyers
By ALEXANDRA CLOUGH
Updated: 11:42 a.m. Monday, Feb. 15, 2010
The Promenade condominium in downtown Boynton Beach is pushing buyers toward a March 3 closing date, meaning the long-awaited project could finally start seeing residents.
To persuade buyers holding pre-construction contracts to close, Promenade’s developers have drastically cut prices, in some cases shaving $200,000 off the price of existing contracts.
New buyers are being offered deals, too. One bedroom units with a city view start at $150,000 . One bedroom ocean views start as low as $240,000. All told, the discounts amount to about 40 percent from the original price, according to a statement by the project’s development company, Boynton Waterways Investment Associates.
But Boynton Waterways won’t disclose how many of its 318 units are under contract. Nor is there any way of knowing how many contract holders will actually come to the closing table.
The Promenade, located at the corner of Boynton Beach Boulevard and Federal Highway, could be an indicator of the strength of the beleaguered real estate market. The luxurious new condo, with its Intracoastal Waterway and ocean views, features a 5,000-square foot clubhouse, an Olympic-length lap pool and even a putting green.
First launched in 2005, the project once had buyers camping out overnight for a chance to snap up a unit. But then the developer had to cancel contracts and return deposits because rising construction costs meant the project could not be built under the original budget. Condos then were reoffered at higher prices, to cover the higher building costs. Construction finally began in 2007 and the project was completed last August.
“Downtown” Boynton Beach??!!! HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
I used to live in Boynton Beach. It has no “downtown”. This Federal Highway area is basically the ghetto area, as such. Not a huge crime area, but basically just an industrial-ish area filled with old strip malls. It’s not a place I’d want to own a condo.
Unless something drastic has changed in the past 12 years (which may be true - I’ve seen it happen, but it’s rare). Anyone from around there care to comment?
“Condos then were reoffered at higher prices, to cover the higher building costs”.
I remember reading this blog when this was the trend. I honestly could not believe what I was reading when reports of this activity would come in. Will common sense ever come back in style?
When was it ever in style?
Seriously, just how many people do they THINK can afford a quarter million dollar apartment?
Just overseeing the Zombie bubble in DC. At this pace, I will be on Social Security before things get rational.
Prices there are already “rational” if you and your spouse are government employees, GSE employees, or lobbyists. Those folks make a lot more than you do.
I know some GSE employees and govt. employees (but no lobbyists, thankfully). They simply do not make as much as you think they do. Not anywhere near enough to afford an average house in the DC area. It’s still very much a bubble almost anywhere near the beltway.
Side note: I got to eat dinner at a table next to Helen Thomas last night. One of the only people I respect in this city. I’m tempted to add her to my “10 celebrities I can cheat with” list.
hey bink,
Re: Guns, Germs, Steel
do you remember if the author gave any explanation for the North/South distiction/performance?
It’s been a real long time since I’ve read the book, I’m afraid. I think I donated it to charity last year. By north/south do you mean hemispheres? US? America?
BINK:
i thought you had mentioned that the book gave an explanation for the North/ south production disparity (yes hemispheres)
it was in the context of a discussion about the altruism that is born of difficult winters/survival instinct that i had originally read your comment from a couple days ago.
I don’t think it was addressed specifically in Guns, Germs, and Steel, but I thought maybe I had missed something
Oh, I didn’t take that as a north/south difference.. more as a difference between societies near the equator and societies further away. Different soil and minerals are available, as well as different diseases that can have an impact on how a society progresses.
IIRC, the determinative factors were: high yield crops, large mamals capable of doing work, geographical area that favors having many rivals (i.e. large islands and penninsulas)
Check out ‘Plagues and Peoples’. It’s similar to ‘Guns, Germs, and Steel’, was written earlier, and I think it’s even more interesting. One of its premises is that the further man moved from his native tropical areas, the less he was naturally ‘kept in check’ by the the various parasites and diseases that had existed there with him as he evolved. Once man ‘escaped’ the tropics, he was like a foreign plant or animal in a new ecosystem, with little or no effective competitors or natural ‘enemies’ (kudzu). This allowed him to flourish and create civilizations, high culture, etc. (His theories are much more complex and involved than my summary, needless to say.) And if you notice, most of the southern hemisphere lies within the tropics, while most of the northern hemisphere lies outside.
I’m tempted to add her to my “10 celebrities I can cheat with” list.
Did you have your beer goggles on?
I don’t watch a lot of TV, but I remember watching Helen Thomas once standing up at a Reagan press conference and throwing a huge sobby hissy fit about how people were starving and dying in the streets, and could we please please have a Federal program to DO something about this?!?! Reagan calmly explained that there were already Federal programs to deal with this problem, and moved on to the next question.
I’ll never forget Helen at the very first Obama press conference. The President called on her, saying, “Helen! My inaugural question! I’m excited!” Of course he flashed that 200-watt smile at her.
Helen glared back at him and asked her question. Which he dodged. Which prompted the Helen Thomas Death Stare.
Classic Helen Thomas.
Look for Short Sales Tigger & lowball them
that’s what I’m doing out in Loudoun Co
Prices in DC, Maryland, and NoVa make perfect sense… assuming you’re a two income family, each of whom makes the median HOUSEHOLD income, and nothing ever goes wrong (layoffs, divorce, illness, etc.)
Unfortunately, most everyone from my generation assumes those perfect circumstances will continue forever, so they buy the biggest house they can barely afford in a perfect world… and housing prices remain forever inflated.
It helps to have half the unemployment level as the rest of the country.
Thanks suckas.
Divorce and illness can happen, but not layoffs if you’re govt or GSE. 19% of whom (probably a greater percentage in the D.C. area) make over $100K.
no layoffs in govt? I’ll be sure to tell that to all my govt coworkers I’ve lost lately …
Thank you, JLR.
I have no idea where these anti-govt types get their info regarding govt jobs, unions, and pay. It certainly has nothing to do with facts on the street.
Govt workers in our state have been laid off, furloughed, had pay and benefit cuts, etc. Additionally, this is only the beginning, IMHO. There will be plenty of cuts in the govt workforce…just watch.
Perhaps then, people will understand that taxes don’t really disappear into a black hole. They are recycled through the economy **with no debt offset (as with credit),** and more people rely on govt spending than they’d like to admit.
Another funny anecdote…
Saw an example of what appeared to be short sale fraud (where the agent sells the home for below market price without putting it on the MLS…this was a particularly large transaction), and shared it with the Federal Reserve, my congressman, and the FBI by linking the information (video “proof”) with a more detailed note about the transaction, and mentioned the fact that the taxpayers need to be better protected.
Didn’t get any response from the FBI, or from my congressman, but got this message from the Federal Reserve [bold is mine]:
Thank you for your recent correspondence in which you expressed your concerns about real estate fraud. Your comments will be forwarded to the appropriate Board staff.
As you know, the Federal Reserve monitors all sectors of the economy, including the real estate market so that we can be prepared when crises arise. The Federal Reserve, however, has limited influence on the real estate market. Further, our monetary policy actions are not aimed at influencing or correcting any particular market but at promoting maximum employment, stable prices, and moderate long-term interest rates.
Again, thank you for writing.
Sincerely,
———————————-
I find it interesting that they claim they have a “limited influence” on the real estate market, and that their policies are not aimed at any particular market. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Who in the world is watching out for the taxpayers’ interests? The Tea Party movement (as originally intended, and which grew from Rick Santelli’s rant against the bailouts) had a good start, but then was co-opted by the right-wing Republicans and turned into an anti-healthcare reform movement. IMHO, the PTB are infiltrating the Tea Party movement so they can run one of their puppets as an “Independent” candidate. Just watch…the next candidate who cozies up to the Tea Party types will really be someone “from the inside” who’s pretending to be an outsider.
/tinfoil hat
Well the person that you REALLY need to send the info to is the bank(s) that issued the original mortgage(s). It is the victims who will be motivated to do something about this fraud.
the tea party originally had a ron paulesque feel to it…then it got hijacked by hannity and palin.
has anyone on the right listened to palin? she is so george bush it’s not even funny.
i would vote for hillary over her…and that’s saying something.
“the tea party originally had a ron paulesque feel to it…then it got hijacked by hannity and palin.”
Personally, I feel the Obummer reign of error was hijacked by the banksters from the beginning. Never before in U.S. history has Wall Street controlled so much so fast, with total impunity and immunity. Mr. Baroke Teleprompter seems to be a powerless little bug in the Mason jar of the international financial elite. Maybe they stood for the “little guy” in the past, but these days the Democrats are just another fashion accessory for the super-rich.
Having said that, Palin appears to me to have the implicit backing of the same sociopathic fat cats. Until and unless a genuine third party power base coalesces, expect whatever is left of American middle class wealth to be systematically and continuously strip-mined, pulverized, and stolen for many generations.
Complete destruction of the middle class is the goal, and the “two parties” are just two heads on the same hydra. The Tea Party will just end up as another head if the Powers That Be have their way.
The Tea Party is largely comprised of a bunch of disgruntled Repubs, fueled by Bill O’Reilly, etc., who can’t get over the fact that Obama was elected. If a Repub was elected, the Tea Party would disappear.
If Palin hadn’t resigned from being the Governor of Alaska when things got a bit tough for her, I might give her some credibility if she accomplished something up there. Things got a little tough in Alaska and she bailed. Why does anyone give her the time of day? I have been taught that past performances can be a good indicator of future performance.
My mother-in-law, whom I love to argue with, was reading Palin’s book while she was visiting here. I had a lot of fun with her on that. I just kept asking - why did she quit?
Her decision to quit was was a patriotic hopey, changey thing -
nice, it was about money and lawsuits. But, probably money. she could not afford the high cost to defend herself from frivolous lawsuit one after another the libs filed. Best to stay in the herd and not stand out.
Good point, Michael. On the surface, Palin seems like one of the “regular folks” of the tea party movement. But listening to her actual words, it’s all a Bush-McCain GOP beltway brand of politics, which means more big government-big spending.
That’s because that’s all she knows. She learned that from the drilling they gave her before her roadshow. She’s never really had to think before.
I went to the local Tea Party last year, and since I don’t have cable anymore I wasn’t sure what or who was driving it. From hearing people talk I know in general Hannity and O’Reilly really get them worked up. I know a lot of the local Paul crowd from the caucuses we had the year before, and actually was surprised that I didn’t see many of them, but their online networking was tapped to pull the thing together for sure. I did see people who were not normally active and are usually timid about political expression, people I work with or know from hobbies etc. I think they’re just worried about everything having to do with money and taxes.
The local Tea Party activity never went much beyond that here.
stable prices? where were they when prices were going up 20% a year?
Exactly, bink.
Fraud like this is more likely a STATE law violation. You may do better with the state Attorney General or the local DA. The Feds probably just shrugged their shoulders and tossed your letter.
Florida family gives up on small-town North Dakota
By JAMES MacPHERSON
Associated Press
HAZELTON, N.D. – A tiny North Dakota town’s promise of cash and free land lured only one family from out of state. Now, Michael and Jeanette Tristani and their 12-year-old twins are trying to move from the town without a traffic light back to Miami.
Tired of crime, traffic, hurricanes and the high cost of living in Florida, the Tristanis moved four years ago to Hazelton, a dwindling town of about 240 that has attempted to attract young families to stay on the map. Michael Tristani, 42, said at the time the 1,800-mile move was “an answer to our prayers.” “We don’t have to look over our shoulder to see who’s going to rob us, or jump out of the bushes to attack us,” Tristani said. “Taxes are low, the cost of living is low and the kids enjoy school.”
But the family also found a cliquey community that treated them like outsiders. “For my wife, it’s been a culture shock,” he said. Rural communities across the Great Plains, fighting a decades-long population decline, are trying a variety of ways to attract outsiders. But the Tristanis show how the efforts can fail even at a time when many people are desperate. “It’s been quite an experience, 50-50 at best,” Tristani said. “It hasn’t been easy. No one really wants new people here.”
The Hazelton Development Corp., formed by a determined group of citizens, began running ads in 2005 offering families up to two free lots and up to $20,000 toward home purchases. Businesses were offered free lots and up to $50,000 for setting up shop in the town. Besides cash and free land, Hazelton had little else to offer except elbow room. Surrounded by flat farm land and livestock, the century-old town boasts three churches, a bank, a grain elevator and a bar.
Like many small towns across rural America, the once thriving farming community began shrinking as residents moved on or passed away. Tom Weiser, one of the city leaders behind the project to lure new residents, said Hazelton had hundreds of inquiries from around the world when the community’s proposal made headlines across the country. Several families from other states visited the town but only the Tristanis made the commitment to move. “Not everybody fits in in a small town,” said Weiser, who works as a baker at Wal-Mart in Bismarck, about 45 miles away. Hay bales, a gas station and a graveyard greet visitors as they roll into Hazelton off the state highway.
Michael Tristani came from his native Florida wearing gold necklaces and a Rolex and driving a Lexus. He proved as foreign as a flamingo in a place where pickups, farm caps and flannel shirts are de rigueur. “People thought I was a drug dealer,” he said. Tristani said he was prepared for Hazelton’s bitter winters — when wind chills can reach 50-degrees below zero and snow drifts are measured in feet — but not the small-town drama. “People prejudge you without getting to know you,” Jeanette Tristani said.
The couple bought a house built by students at an American Indian college in Bismarck. The home was moved to town and put on two lots donated by the city. The Tristanis bought a third lot and were later given $15,000. Tristani, a former grocery worker, and his wife, a former real estate agent, opened a bistro and coffee shop. But within weeks of moving to the city, the couple petitioned for a restraining order against the owners of another coffee shop. The Tristanis allege one of the owners drove by their house yelling obscenities and threatened to damage the family’s new home.
“He appears to be out of control,” The Tristanis wrote in court papers. “At times, it’s difficult to understand the rest of the words he’s using on my family due to his uproar.” Both businesses are now shuttered. After his bistro failed, Michael Tristani said he began buying old houses in Bismarck, fixing them up and reselling them to earn money. Jeanette, 44, lost her job last year at a call center in nearby Linton when the business failed. The Tristanis say the family enjoys spending time together and has little to do with the locals. They relish trips to a Wal-Mart in Bismarck.
The couple’s home in Hazelton has been on the market since August, though the for-sale sign has been covered with snow for weeks. School Superintendent Brandt Dick said losing the Tristani twins, a boy and a girl in the seventh grade, would be a blow to the shrinking enrollment. Dick said there are 72 students enrolled at the local high school, and that the number is expected to fall to 31 in four years. “We are declining in numbers and will continue to decline unless something changes,” he said.
Bev Voller, a member of the nonprofit development group, said the incentives were funded largely through private money, much of it from “an anonymous donor.” But, she says, “the cash thing is over now.” Kim Preston, a spokeswoman for the rural advocacy group Center for Rural Affairs, based in Lyons, Neb., said the offer of free land to lure new residents to wilting towns is a phenomenon that started in the past decade. But the small communities that have had success are near larger communities, she said. “For it to work, it needs to be no more than a 30-minute commute,” she said. It’s a 45-minute drive from Hazelton to Bismarck — in good weather. And the weather is often bad.
Jeanette said the main reason she wants to move back to the Miami area is to care for her elderly parents. Michael said he couldn’t convince his wife’s parents to join them in Hazelton. “The cold weather has them freaked,” he said.
The story starts off ok. Florida native lured to ND, but the locals treat him like an outsider. Oh woe is him… until we find out that Tristani the “former grocery worker” and “former real estate agent” wife show up dripping with bling, pay to move a house to a double lot, open a “bistro,” and start playing Flip This House. And then they complain about being the townspeople prejudging him as a drug dealer and not fitting in with the farming/livestock town.
Gee, YA THINK?
These pukes are much like the tripe showed up in the New England backcountry during the bubble years. Dumb, metro and clueless.
See? I told you these people would bail after experiencing a hard winter, no jobs and no integration into the very small communities.
Reminds me of the people who move to Vermont but forget to bring their manners with them. That doesn’t go over very well with the locals.
Could we have sent a guy who was less of an @ss as an ambassador of FL?
When I moved to back-country MA 30+ years ago, it was blue jeans and flannel shirts ( well, I wore tops & jeans, but amounted to the same thing ). Developers moved in, developed the heck out of the area, and then the Bostonians and their suburban friends moved in, and started whining about people who were raising pigs on their old family N.E. farms. My ex-husband & I got along fine there because we were nice, non-pretentious, and didn’t whine. The people who bought next to the pig farms whined to the zoning committe, who said in their laconic N.E. way, ” Yep, there’s pigs there, all right….” That’s about all the “satisfaction” the petitioners received. Grandfathering and all. Don’t buy next to a farm with a field of hawgs if ya don’t like the smell.
Reminds me of people who buy a house next to a bar and then complain about the noise.
Here in Houston, they move into a new subdivision built on old wetlands and then complain about the alligators. They are politely told to keep their pets and children away from the bayou. “What’s that? You’ve been FEEDING it?!”
I live in South Eastern MA and the pig farm / developer scenario recently occured around the corner from me. The owner of the pig farm sold off some of the land to reduce the tax burden. Up next, the developer who buys the land, cuts down the tress and builds colonials on postage sized lots. The high priced colonials sold quickly back in 2003-2006. Now the neighbors are complaining to the city about the smell.
Oops, meant postage stamp sized lots
Spent part of my growing-up years down the street from a dairy and chicken farm. When the wind was coming out of the north, we could smell the manure.
But we liked the farmers, and we were greatly saddened when an arsonist torched their barn. The %$#^& had the gall to use our woods as part of his escape route. I saw him walking out of the woods and onto our driveway, just as casual as could be.
Cops interviewed me a short while later. And I could still give a description of that guy. Who got off with a slap on the wrist.
Anyway, barn burned down, farmers out of business, land sold off for development. Bunch of ticky-tack houses there now.
Silverback,
I had sheep at one point. Thankfully far less smelly animals than pigs or horses. It’s the wool.
When the neighbooring farmers put down manure, whew, that was a smell.
Pig farm or chickens… I think pigs are the worst but chickens are also nasty.
Feedlots in general are bad but with a bit of pasture pigs are no worse than anything else.
Not only that, he opened a second coffee shop in a town of 240. At that microeconomic level, dog eat dog capitalism can get pretty brutal.
I wonder if the first coffee shop that was there is still open. Really, who would move their family to the middle of nowhere without having any idea of whether they can support themselves ? There’s a REASON why only 240 people there…
A modern-day Green Acres. Could make a good reality TV show, too. Send the brashest newly-broke metro morons to small farming towns to buy houses, start businesses, amd ‘fit in’. Antics ensue!
Unfortunately, what the Tristani’s lost sight of was.., these are sacrifices you make for your ‘kids’. The twins would one day soon have friends that could claim, “I went to high school with them!”
Try being a Chicagoan living in Oregon ( w/ an asian wife ). After 20 years or so, people beging to warm up to you? But our daughters encounter NO such difficulty! None.
Was it worth it? I have no idea. Would I have a well pickled liver from hanging around all the guys I grew up back in the MW? Oh yeah…
‘Was it worth it? I have no idea. Would I have a well pickled liver from hanging around all the guys I grew up back in the MW? Oh yeah”
DinOR…Those guys are probably all still sitting on the same bar stools and “flopping with the mop”, if they still have a job.
mikey,
In most cases, that’s actually true. There have been a few guys that really stood out though. One went on to be the CEO of Moneygram ( but they got caught up in the Subprime debacle too! )
I guess he was ousted ( somewhat unceremoniously ) but got a golden parachute nonetheless. Another went on to record in Nashville and while he never really made any money, for anyone in Country music, this ‘is’ the pinnacle.
But you’re right, lots of “alcohol-related divorces” and one of my best friends -was- the manager of the GM dealership up by you ( Wauconda? Grayslake? ) but they got shut down last year. Lots of guys that kept getting re-married and now at 50+ have “toddlers” at home. To me, a fate worse than dying from the bottle. IMHO.
Oil City, here we come!
LOL! However, my wife and I were “outsiders” for almost four years living in one of the eastern suburbs of Harrisburg, PA. If you weren’t family you were ignored. The ideal place for a son and his new wife to live was a house built on the same lot where Mom and Dad live. Second most ideal place was Mom and Dad’s basement apartment.
Bill in Carolina,
Funny you’d say that? Fortunately H’burg is home to several large corp’s. Sadly, for years I’d been on a soapbox about doing biz w/ people based on their credentials, merits and expertise.
It took a bank bringing down an entire town of 10,000 for them to realize that just b/c you went to HS/church w/ someone isn’t necessarily the basis for a sound investment? Now that many have come to their senses, it’s entirely too late for them. And they’ll wind up being nothing more than a burden to their children.
Other than that, I’d say it worked out fine!
This story is funny to me .At least they gave the town something to talk about . But it only proves that if you don’t have employment in a
town ,what good is a house ? The place is to cold for retirement hunters . But of all people to show up in that town but flippers who immediately went into competition with probably the one coffee shop in town .
yeah but the newbies’ one was probably hipper and edgier, with all the latest lattés!
With more gold chains !
I have a strong feeling that a little “Ole Redeye” sells a mite better than Strawberry lattes on a winter Saturday night in Fargo…Ooops…Hazelton, N.D.
Yaaa, ya reckon ?
The other thing most people don’t realize in these small farming towns is that eventually, through marriages of the people who don’t leave, is that everyone is related to each other. Go into competition with the local coffee shop and you are treading on a lot of toes. Also watch that you don’t say anything about anybody (even if it’s true) as it will be around town faster than you can possibly imagine.
Integration through marriage would be the easiest way to fit in. The kids would do alright and would eventually bring the parents in but until then…..
Dale,
Perzactly. Now that our kids “went to HS with OUR… kids” ( suddenly we’re in like Flint ) Go figure?
And at great length, I’m finally getting some traction explaining to locals that there ‘won’t’ be any bailout for ‘us’ and if we’re going to turn things around, we’ve only each other to rely on!
So many biz’s were structured simply to take advantage of the Cali-Retiree Pipeline it’s going to take a major overhaul. With every old home “of character” being converted to a B & B and every “farm” offering to host weddings and events, every sq. inch of tillable soil converted to wineries, well let’s just say we’ve got our work cut out for us. Maybe our kids can finish where we left off? LOL!
“With every old home “of character” being converted to a B & B and every “farm” offering to host weddings and events, every sq. inch of tillable soil converted to wineries”
Wow, that is exactly the Finger Lakes region as well.
As a former Floridian transplanted to West Virginia, I find this totally hilarious. Like Dave Barry always says, you can’t make this stuff up.
Michael Tristani came from his native Florida wearing gold necklaces and a Rolex and driving a Lexus….Tristani, a former grocery worker, and his wife, a former real estate agent, opened a bistro and coffee shop……”Not everybody fits in in a small town,”
Modern-day Grapes of Wrath: Very sad story related to aftermath of housing bubble.
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD03021610.htm
That is probably the most depressing story of the year so far, and not just because the reporter apparently thinks potatoes are made in factories.
Disclaimer, I was born an bred a russet.
Yup, I had the same problem when I moved from western Colorado to Moab, Utarrr. Nobody liked my Mountain Hardwear jacket (they all still wore North Face) and my cool new REI hiking poles (they used old sticks). And the fact that I had five dogs instead of the typical four really burned folks (especially the animal control guy). At least that’s what I figured the problems were, not sure.
One Colorado friend even told me I should leave and go back to my “peers.” But I gradually learned to fit in. I think the real clincher was when my truck got run into by a grocery store shopping cart, putting a pretty good dent in the bumper. Now it looked real, people thinking I’d done the damage when out 4 wheeling on Hell’s Revenge or Potato Salad Hill, cause that’s where everyone goes to trash their vehicles. I also learned to say heck and flippin’. It’s actually pretty easy to fit in if you try.
Or maybe it was just cause I was nice to everybody, dunno.
Losty,
I have been dirt bike riding in Moab before (about 10 years ago).
Have fond memories of the trails. Poison spider, etc.
I found the town to be far too trendy for my tastes. I couldn’t believe the amount of yuppies I encountered. Now I hear the jeepers are getting squeezed out. I’ve got a jeep tailor made for that terrain (rockcrawler) yet I have little desire to go back.
FWIW
SV Guy, you just came on the wrong weekend. Stay off Main Street, too. The rest of town is pretty laid back and Jeepers are about as common as dogs. Both are pretty welcome, as long as the dogs stay mostly off the trails and the Jeepers stay on.
A friend opened a rock crawler park south of town, he has several hundred acres, and they have a blast out there. He’s also made some wild videos of the action, I remember one where he put a camera inside some kind of vehicle and then they blasted it off a cliff. Very entertaining.
I get along with everyone because I’m a redneck greener. I like the Jeeps and I like the mountain bikes and I even like the mule riders and hikers. It’s cause I stay way out there and never see any of them.
Losty,
I guess I must have gotten the wrong impression. I’ll stay off main street next time.
But did you join the local LDS Ward?
I met some folks once who told me that they were ostracized by their LDS neighbors in Park City. They told us how the day after they moved in that the LDS welcome wagon was at their front door to inform them which Ward and Stake they were to report to. They tersely told their new ‘friends’ that they were Catholics, thank you very much. Then then went on to tell us that none of the neighbors would let their kids socialized with the ‘gentile’ kids. In the end their social life wound up being centered around the local Catholic parish, as they pretty much had no other choice.
And this was in Park City.
I hear this story over and over from people dealing with the LDS in large numbers.
Real friendly till they realize you aren’t converting. Then you get shunned.
Also you had to have a membership to go to a strip club; not that I’m blowing any more money on that.
Anyhow, all the non-LDS that have lived in Utah can’t stand the LDS. Fun eh?
For the record, I’ve lived in an Italian hood, a Mexican hood, a black hood and backwoods of PA. Have to say all of those communities were pretty embracing after a little while. Backwoods people are a different bunch though. Give them their space and things were cool.
I hope for your sake that you were frequently asked to dinner in the Italian neighborhood.
Nah, in Moab, LDS is a minority group. Heck, they only make up about half of Utah now, I just read that somewhere.
When they come to my door, I just tell them I’m a Jack Buddhist and they don’t even know where to start.
I’m thinking of buying a nice Jewish mezuzah to nail up on my front doorpost. I’ve been told LDS and Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t even bother knocking if they see one of those.
Good luck with that.
Also you had to have a membership to go to a strip club; not that I’m blowing any more money on that
What does that mean James? LDS membership was required to get into the strip club or membership of the strip club was required.
The former seems to be your meaning, but still perplexing.
I had the same problem when I moved from western Colorado to Moab, Utarrr.
I always wanted to ask Oly Gal this: Do they really pronounce it “Utarrr”?
I think that’s kind of like a secret handshake for the oldtimers here, they pronounce it that way to see if you get it.
My dad’s from Colorado, and he always said “Color-ada.” When he got the nod of recognition back, he knew he was in good company.
Its not so much the Utahr, but the general grunted and slurred pronunciation of just about any word or phrase. If you have watched Napoleon Dynamite there is a scene where the farmer says an uninteligable phrase. That’s really how many talk there.
BTW, he said “I found a Shoshone arrowhead in that creek bed over there”, and I understood him, because I speak Utahrn.
.. But within weeks of moving to the city, the couple petitioned for a restraining order against the owners of another coffee shop…
Ya can’t say they didn’t try to get acquainted with the locals..
Their first mistake was moving to a town that small. Really, it’s barely a village.
I’ve been to garage sales with more people.
Looks like Zillow has droped the “gain/loss last 30 days” line from their snapshot page. Pressure?
They should offer a choice of “fake gain” and “probable loss” to reflect current conditions.
From Canada’s Globe & Mail: We do not have a housing bubble, just a debt bubble:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/bubble-trouble-no-its-our-thirst-for-debt/article1469360/
Snips from the article:
Do we have a real estate bubble in Canada? The answer’s not certain, but by most measures, it’s no. Yet the subject dominates headlines and discourse about the economy right now.
There’s not much concrete research behind the viewpoint that there is a bubble. The argument comes down to the fact that house prices are at record highs, and have risen pretty fast by some measures, most notably the average resale home price calculated by the Canadian Real Estate Association.
Key quote:
Canada is now where the United States was in about 2004 on this key measure, and while the U.S. consumer is now paying down debt, Canadians continue to pile it on, mostly via mortgages. Even with interest rates remaining low, debt payments are eating up more Canadians’ income as a result of the sheer volume of money they owe.
Either way Canada’s housing will pop. I found this blog back in March 2005, and I think we are at that time/level here. I still think it will be 2011 before anything huge hits here (like 2006 it really started in the US), but 2012 or even this year wouldn’t be really surprising!
much higner interest rates is the only solution to this methinks…much higher.
“Do we have a real estate bubble in Canada? The answer’s not certain, but by most measures, it’s no. Yet the subject dominates headlines and discourse about the economy right now.”
So, in Canada, they don’t bother to look at pesky things like incomes when determining if house prices are detached from fundamentals? Oooookaayyyy….
HBBers,
Some correspondence between myself and Bloomberg concerning a recent article on a trader leaving his bonus to make high-end skis. Yeah, right.
Anyway, here it is.
Roidy
Here is the URL:http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=alrOTKfBPvIs
I just don’t believe this. He was fired or asked to leave. Why I’m not sure. The article doesn’t say. Note he didn’t leave when times were good. Forced out?
From: Roidy
to: jheaven1@bloomberg.net
date: Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 7:53 AM
subject: UBS Currency Man Drops Bonus to Run Luxury Ski-Maker (Update2) Math Mistake or Grammatical Error?
Email to the reporter:
You reported:
“He also gave up his $7,000-a- month, 250-square meter house with gardener, located 15 minutes from UBS’s Stamford, Connecticut trading floor, which is the size of two football fields.”
Is the house the size of two football fields, or is the trading floor the size of two football fields?
A 250 square meter house is about 2690 square feet. Two football fields are about 115,200 square feet. The cost of this is $84,000 per year which is a lot of rent for normal folks in a 2700 square foot rental house, gardener or no. For a criminal trader who has bilked the US taxpayer and ran away with the money, it isn’t so much. Now, a 115,200 square foot house is a completely different matter.
Please clarify.
Roidy
jheaven’s response:
The trading floor.
(The house was 250 square meters.)
JH
Stagflation alert.
According to the WSJ, the price of lumber is up 32 percent, not because we have a construction boom, but because capacity was so shrunk in the recession, and no one is in the mood to increase it. They probably couldn’t get the financing if they were in the mood.
Folks say there can be no price inflation without wage inflation. I disagree. We developed substantial capacity to produce McMansions, SUVs, fast food and toxic financial instruments, and have lost the capacity to produce anything else.
Unless demand shows up in the same place as past supply, we could see 10 percent unemployment and 10 percent inflation, particularly for traded commodities we can no longer afford to import or other countries can use their financial advantage to buy up from here.
The seniors and public employees will be automatic inflation adjustments, and the rich would see their tax brackets adjusted, while everyone else would be crushed.
Socialism without full government price control is a recipe for stagflation. Thank Obama every time you have to pay too much for something you really need.
Socialism without full government price control is a recipe for stagflation.
Are you advocating “full government price control” as a possible solution?
Seems to have done wonders for Zimbabwe.
Thank Obama? Why? Did Obama create the RE bubble? The CDOs? The unregulated derivatives? Did he repeal the Glass/Steagall Act?
No. Obama just socialized big business.
Big business became socialized back in the 1970s when the Business Roundtable was formed to counteract all the consumer and workers rights and environmental and health laws that were enacted and being enacted at that time.
The Business Roundtable was formed of the top 200 corporations in America and became the largest lobby, bar none.
Socialism for the rich and capitalism for everyone else happened a long time ago.
WTF your clueless.
Yep. If prices were truly driven by a pure demand/supply curve, then this would mean that lumber, and other building supplies, would be practically free right now.
If the price is driven by a pure demand/supply curve and the supply is less than the demand then the price will rise, just as in this case regarding lumber.
A contracting economy can produce rising prices as long as supply is less than demand, and supply will be less than demand when it is not economically reasonable to increase supply. A lumber mill may not just cut back, meaning reduce the supply of lumber, it may instead shut down completely, thus eliminating entirely the supply of lumber.
Reducing supply has one effect, eliminating supply has another.
that’s waht i wonder aabout the refineries and gasoline….consumption keeps dropping but supply is falling faster.
the lumber story is still a curiosity for me. Has that much slack really been taken out of the system?
So, could a person buy a house for one dollar in Cleveland or Detroit, disassemble it and sell off the lumber and other fixtures and make a profit?
So, could a person buy a house for one dollar in Cleveland or Detroit, disassemble it and sell off the lumber and other fixtures and make a profit?
If the bolded part were free, certainly.
(Don’t forget about shipping costs)
It’s pretty easy to take slack out of timber if you’re time horizon is long enough, the trees just keep growing. The sawmills are no doubt working for thin margins, but their portion of the final lumber price is pretty small. Loggers are generally pretty small operations.
I know of at least 4 mills that have closed permanently in western Montana. Others have cut output. The supply has definitely been reduced.
This is also a symptom of deflation
Crashing prices cause decreased production and in some instances brief shortages. I’ll call this a dead cat bounce on lumber.
+1 measton
If the price is driven by a pure demand/supply curve and the supply is less than the demand then the price will rise,
That’s true, and why when the pro-gold and stashed cash folks would clash, I thought despite the fight, both might be right, and in hindsight they’ve both done alright.
Gold’s Bull Market Turns 9 Years Old
Gold, silver and the metals group are coming down from their January highs, on the eve of gold’s nine year bull market run. Considering the gold price has had nine consistent yearly gains, and it’s still above $1000 is a feat in itself. Gold’s bull market is solid, a new phase has begun and it’s currently declining in a sharp, yet normal downward correction.
http://www.kitco.com/ind/Aden/aden_feb162010.html
” I thought despite the fight, both might be right, and in hindsight they’ve both done alright.”
Bravo! Illegitimate son of Theodore Giesel?
I suspect that the same is true of Gasoline prices. The refiners have mearly taken capacity off line reducing supply and keeping prices high. If it were purely supply and demand, prices would be at the levels we saw in January 09.
So how will propping up commodities like gas and food affect housing prices in an environment where people have falling or flat salaries, rising taxes, rising insurance costs, less job security, and fewer banks lending to them??
Basically, yes.
Price inflation without wage inflation is called “making everyone but the elite poor.” This gives the elite warm tingles.
BINGO
The elite get their investments propped up, J6pk sees unemployment, pay and benefit cuts, and rising costs for food, fuel, insurance. Retired J6pk sees his safe investment returns dwindle to nothing.
This can continue until j6pk has nothing.
I think the goal as in Saudi Arabia, is to have the elite control natural resources and everyone then be dependent on the elite. Thomas Freedman pointed out that oil destroys democracy as it removes any incentive to invest in your own population of people. Maybe the PTB have decided that they can do better controlling resources and suppressing the population.
It’s hard to be Saudi Arabia when most of the resources aren’t even under your own dirt. But yeah, I can see how the PTB might be envious of that system.
I don’t understand where the WSJ is getting its info from. Walk in any menards store and lumber really hasn’t changed in price for some time now. i would even suggest during sale periods, its gone down 10% Since I’m planning on adding an addition on to my house this spring, I just did a materials llist. Example 2×4x92 5/8. Bought in 2003, 1.69 ea, price now, 1.69/ea. 7/16 osb sheathing 6.77 sheet, 2003 9.77 sheet, 2×6x16, 5.46 now, 5.66 ,2003.
So my materials cost for a 20×24 is right around $10k finished, plus permits. No outside labor here. Will do it all myself.
We’ve had stagflation for J6P for 30 years while the wealthy saw a 400% increase in their incomes. Nothing new here.
“[Greece's financial problems] should provide a warning to Americans about how quickly things can unravel for a country when it refuses to confront the realities of its mounting debt. Though significantly smaller than the U.S., some of the same problems that Greece faces are issues here: over-dependence on a consumer-based economy, a money-sucking old age pension system, reliance on other nations to finance its deficits, and a swelling debt toll that has surpassed its annual gross domestic product.”
Phillip Klein believes that if the U.S. puts off dealing with shortfalls we’ll have to confront the problem with ad hoc tax hikes and benefit cuts that are likely to cripple our economy and cause social upheaval.
Greece has problems? I see hope-for-bailouts trumping any problems. Too big to fail can never actually have any problems.
Not to worry. It’s all under control.
(As long as we don’t have any more recessions, and GDP goes up above 5% the next few years, and remains above 4% for the next 10)
it’s almost as if that 100% mark has some meaning.
The GDP can be any number they want it to be. Look at Beijing, they say they need 8% growth and shazaam! they get 8% (or more) growth. We can do that too!
Survivalist tip # 57: when living in a crumbling state, it pays to be a “yes man”.
Goes for a police state too.
Of it’s really hard to tell the difference. Sometimes there is no difference (e.g. about half of the African countries, and perhaps Venezuela, and a few others.)
Fun trivia moment: Who has the largest prison population in the world?
Fun trivia moment: Who has the largest prison population in the world?
Answer: The United States. Woo! We’re number one!
Three hots and a cot. Free medical. Basketball and weight training.
As an added bonus you get to be mentored by seasoned experts in perfecting your crime skills.
USA USA USA
No more weight training. The guards realized the inmates were more buff than they were so weights now banned in prisons.
“…some of the same problems that Greece faces are issues here:”
Financially destabilizing gambling activities by Gollum Suchs…
02/08/2010
Greek Debt Crisis
How Goldman Sachs Helped Greece to Mask its True Debt
By Beat Balzli
Greek Finance Minister George Papaconstantinou speaking at a conference in January.
Goldman Sachs helped the Greek government to mask the true extent of its deficit with the help of a derivatives deal that legally circumvented the EU Maastricht deficit rules. At some point the so-called cross currency swaps will mature, and swell the country’s already bloated deficit.
Greeks aren’t very welcome in the Rue Alphones Weicker in Luxembourg. It’s home to Eurostat, the European Union’s statistical office. The number crunchers there are deeply annoyed with Athens. Investigative reports state that important data “cannot be confirmed” or has been requested but “not received.”
Creative accounting took priority when it came to totting up government debt.Since 1999, the Maastricht rules threaten to slap hefty fines on euro member countries that exceed the budget deficit limit of three percent of gross domestic product. Total government debt mustn’t exceed 60 percent.
The Greeks have never managed to stick to the 60 percent debt limit, and they only adhered to the three percent deficit ceiling with the help of blatant balance sheet cosmetics. One time, gigantic military expenditures were left out, and another time billions in hospital debt. After recalculating the figures, the experts at Eurostat consistently came up with the same results: In truth, the deficit each year has been far greater than the three percent limit. In 2009, it exploded to over 12 percent.
Now, though, it looks like the Greek figure jugglers have been even more brazen than was previously thought. “Around 2002 in particular, various investment banks offered complex financial products with which governments could push part of their liabilities into the future,” one insider recalled, adding that Mediterranean countries had snapped up such products.
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GS is to debt as Earl Scheib is to car painting.
Ol’ Earl doesn’t deserve that comment!
Oh no. Unlike Earl - GS is very, very good at what they do.
Oh oh! Better get Maaco!
“Goldman Sachs” is to “American economy” as “lamprey” is to “lake trout”
Amazing how Goldman Sucks has their slimy fingers in most every large scam out there.
The trouble with cockroaches: If you see one on your kitchen floor, you know there are probably hundreds hiding nearby.
Bloomberg
Greek Swaps Information Demanded This Week in EU Investigation
February 16, 2010, 12:10 PM EST
By Meera Louis
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — Greece was ordered by the European Union to hand over information on its swaps transactions by the end of this week in an investigation that may extend to other EU countries.
EU Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn told Greece to submit the swaps data by Feb. 19. The probe comes as questions arise about how long European officials have known that Greece may have used derivatives to conceal the extent of its budget deficit, and whether other EU countries used similar techniques.
“In case there is a reason to expect that this kind of technique has been used by other member states, not only Greece, then we shall request information” from those nations, Rehn said today after a meeting of EU finance ministers in Brussels. “We need further enquiries on this,” Luxembourg Treasury Minister Jean-Claude Juncker said.
Greece turned to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in 2002 to get $1 billion in funding through a swap, Christoforos Sardelis, head of Greece’s Public Debt Management Agency at the time, said in an interview last week. EU officials today fielded questions about how long they knew about the swaps and whether other countries used such instruments to mask the size of their debt.
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Ok, here’s a creepy, non HBB story:
Many years ago when I lived in Mexico we went to Acapulco on vacation. My dad rented some kind of a condo/townhouse with a kitchen.
Anyway, to make a long story short: I woke up thirsty in the middle of the night and figured that a cold 7-Up would hit the spot so I headed out to the kitchen.
I flip on the light and there was an ARMY of cockroaches on the linoleum floor (hundreds). The all did an about face and filed out under a door that led outside. After they were all gone I grabbed a wet dishrag and crammed it under the door.
Needless to say I didn’t get any sleep the rest of that night.
..Greek-owned maritime fleet is today the largest in the world, with 3,079 vessels accounting for 18% of the world’s fleet capacity (making it the largest of any other country) [snip]
Greece ranks first in both tankers and dry bulk carriers, fourth in the number of containers, and fourth in other ships…
Shipping represents 1/3 of the country’s trade deficit.
18% of the world’s fleet capacity.. Tankers and dry bulk..
Seems to me that the Greek economy is very dependent on other countries continued consumption.
There’s a guy on TechTicker who is claiming that the Germans will bail all of them out: Italy, Ireland,Spain,Greece, Portugal. I think this guy’s completely wrong. German taxpayers putting up with that? Even American taxpayers wouldn’t put up with bailouts they had nothing to do with…
Oh, wait!
Never mind.
Roidy
Cheap mediterranean villas for all German retirees! I think the German government might have a good plan here
In Paris and Berlin, Fury Over a Greek Bailout
By Bruce Crumley / Paris Tuesday, Feb. 16, 2010
Demonstrators in Athens try to burn a European Union flag during a protest outside EU offices.
Thanassis Stavrakis / AP
When the euro was launched in 2002, it was celebrated as a triumph of monetary unity. The 16 nations in the so-called “euro zone” could certainly use another dose of that founding spirit today. As questions mount about the very future of the currency due to the ongoing Greek debt crisis, there seems to be more anger in parts of Europe over Greece’s financial recklessness than a willingness to save Planet Euro from imploding by bailing Athens out. That’s certainly the case in Germany and France — the two largest euro zone economies — whose peeved taxpayers will have to contribute the most if Greece has to be rescued from its own profligacy.
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Try to burn? Did it just fissle and pop?
Bailout unlikely.
I think that Berlin & Paris won’t bail out Greece.
- they have enough trouble of their own
- tax payers/voters will be outraged
- if they bail then more deadbeats will show up hat in hand
- it puts pressure on the EURO whih is a godsend for Germany’s export oriented economy.
- with Greece/GS commiting accounting fraud sympathies in Berlin & Paris are near zero
- any of the PIGS exiting the EURO zone would be a relief
Personally GS should be declared a criminal organization (like the mob) and all it’s “employees” should be detained and charged amongst other with conspiracy….just doing God’s work.
I found a 700 sq ft condo on central Austin that is for sale in a good neighborhood in Austin. I lived in the same complex when I went to college. Mostly graduate students and some retired people loce there. It was built in the 80s. The price is about 125k, But if I put 20% down, the monthly payments are just 580 dollars. Taxed are about 200 a month and HOAs about 100. I used to pay 900 to rent the unit. I could break even if I were to buy this property, and lease it to someone.
What do u guys think?
It’s an older unit and the bathroom an kitchen are not updyed. However, putting any money isn’t a great idea because I doubt the value will go up much with time.
Is this a crazy idea?
yeah, it’s a crazy idea.
yeah, it’s a crazy idea.
+1
If you own it, you may or may not break even. To guarantee you break even, don’t buy it.
Good god, you want to break even? Nobody goes into business to break even. You’re going to buy a condo to break even? You have to put a renter in there for 30 years, you have to pray that the HOA fee and taxes never go up,* you have to pray that the building doesn’t fall down, and you have the hassle and misc expence of being an LL.
And at the end of 30 years of busting your butt to break even, the only thing you are left with is… a 50-year-old condo which didn’t appreciate much. Which means it’s rickety and not very sellable.
Even if the knife isn’t falling, it can still kill you with a thousand cuts. Don’t do it.
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*The HOA fee is guaranteed to go up, if only because grad students will move away and retireds will pass away, leaving a half-full building. And that’s if none of them foreclose. Taxes, well, unless you Golden Sacks, taxes only go in one direction.
Basically, you have to look at the sq. footage, too. 700 sq. feet for $ 125,000 is awfully expensive. Right now, I’m looking at a foreclosed 1100 sq. foot duplex w/ a one car garage built in 1994, for $ 24,900. Now that might just work as a rental. I’d be very careful if I were you, Brett. Nobody is going to fork over $ 125,000 for a common-sized little condo in a few years. You might be trapped and very, very sorry that you volunteered for this crappy deal.
Thanks for your advice and getting that awful idea out of my mind
I think you’re making a wise decision. If you still are considering buying in a couple of years, I’m sure that you’ll have a lot more choices due to foreclosures, at much lower prices, then you do now. Even the Big A(ustin) is going to take a dusting before this is all over. Michigan is probably a couple of years ahead of the rest of the country in the amount of minefield casualties here, and if my assumption is correct, then look out rest of the country.
Break even for all the work of being a landlord, missed rent, maintenance issues, etc.?
Why not just put the money under your bed?
You break even without any of the headaches.
You break even without any of the headaches.
Being cash-flow neutral (which I assume is what he meant by “break even”) is very different from break-even.
You have an asset at the end of the loan period that other people effectively bought for you.
That’s my thought.. I guess I used the wrong terminology
The rent would cover for the most part mortage, HOA and taxes…
The rent would cover for the most part mortage, HOA and taxes…
And you would float the difference, plus any vacancies, repair, and the downside (and upside) risk to housing prices..as well as risk of rising taxes, eminent domain, etc…
Personally, I wouldn’t want the hassle. But I do think that the conventional wisdom - that rentals only make sense if they’re cash flow positive by a certain % (I believe “cap rate” is the term?) - is a bit strict. Heck, if you can get someone to buy an asset for you over time, it seems like a win. But it’s an additional fixed cost in your life (if cash flow is in the red at all).
You would have to be careful who you rent too. If its students, be ready for extreme repairs every time they move out. I’m just sayin’…………..
During the Great Depression, Franklin Roosevelt made these demands:
“This nation asks for action, and action now. Our greatest primary task is to put people to work… I shall ask the Congress for the one remaining instrument to meet the crisis — broad executive power to wage a war against the emergency…”
That was in 1933. Roosevelt got the big government programs he wanted — but activist government chilled the private sector. Seven years later unemployment was still at nearly 15 percent.
How could there ever have been a Great Depression. Didn’t they know then about Too-Big-To-Fail? Bailouts? Money-Printing? PPT? Fake Government Numbers? Dummies…
They printed as much money as they could. But being bound by the gold standard, new money was limited.
Once the limit was reached, the banks failed, and everything else followed.
Even if you don’t believe creating jobs helped end the depression, I can tell you for certain that creating jobs prevented massive social unrest and crime.
I’d much rather see that TARP money and unemployment money go to creating jobs producing things the country needs than to bailing out gambling houses or letting people sit at home and do nothing.
Creating jobs certainly ended the depression. But the jobs were created by govt money going to companies large and small to crank out massive quantities of guns, tanks, planes, ships, uniforms, boots, etc. Even Lionel (the toy electric train manufacturer) switched over to producing stuff the military needed.
We can thank Japan for helping us out of the Great Depression.
Before Pear Harbor there was no convincing U.S. citizens that they should put up with the amount of spending that was needed to wage WW2.
And yet 9/11 failed to pull the US out of the 2000 recession; it instead deepened it.
That would be your military-industrial complex at work; instead of creating new jobs, those Rosie the Riveter jobs were already baked into the economy.
And yet 9/11 failed to pull the US out of the 2000 recession; it instead deepened it.
Military spending actually didn’t go up by much at all after 9/11, especially compared with WWII.
Military spending as % of GDP:
1938: 1.7%
1943: 45.1%
2000: 3.7%
2003: 4.5%
(currently 5.6%)
Being that the increase was so small, one would expect the effects to be benign.
“And yet 9/11 failed to pull the US out of the 2000 recession; it instead deepened it.”
Can you imagine if that moment had been used to tell the country we were going to put a huge public investment into improving the national (preferably continental) power grid so that it could handle massive amounts of decentralized nuclear, solar, wind, tidal, etc. power generation and distribution and that as the improvements were made a gradually increasing carbon tax would be implemented. That the purpose of the spending/carbon tax was to get us entirely off foreign oil, because the terrorists were primarily Saudis and their philosophy was promulgated by clerics funded by the Saudi royal family and they weren’t our friends and it was time to make sure we weren’t dependent on them any more - entirely for security reasons. The country would have responded to that in the months after 9/11. The opportunity was squandered.
Then let the private sector do its thing to gear up to take advantage of the changes on the way. Everything but the basic infrastructure (and even some of that) could have been left to private industry.
I sometimes weep at the metaphorical milk that was spilled in those months.
Never underestimate the power of NIMBY. Power lines are hugely contentious.
Not that power plants aren’t contentious, but in terms of land used per unit of energy, we’re far better off with localized power production whenever possible. Not to mention national security issues, issues of efficiency, etc.
+1000 Polly
Polly, the metaphorical milk was not spilled. It was gathered up and drunk by Halliburton et al.
There’s still time for the carbon tax. The libs made the huge mistake of saying it was “for the environment” and “for the children,” when it would have been far more effective to say it was for “peak oil” and “national security.”
bah, the Repubs would still kill at as cap’n'tax anyway.
Just heard the CEO of Anadrako talking about the huge natural gas deposits under Pennsylvania…..he mentioned it as a possible export…..
To all those idiots that think energy independence comes with Drill, Drill,Drill…oil and gas are completely fungible no matter where it comes from….Exxon will be happy to sell it to you, of course ….at the world price….no discount for americans
In my very strong opinion, the view that the U.S. economy was brought out of the depression by WWII, in the aspect of war-driven job creation, is entirely wrong.
Certainly WWII brought about tons of jobs. Unemployment went from 17% to 2% in just 3 years. However this was the ultimate in stimulus-fed “growth”. 40% of our entire economy was the war.
Normally however after such an incredible stimulus and debt binge (U.S. debt went from 40% of GDP to 120% of GDP, even with over 100% of GDP growth during the period) one would expect a spectacular post-binge crash. We would have continued the Great Depression in full force after WWII, except for one thing - the rest of the world’s infrastructure was virtually destroyed, while the U.S.’s remained intact. Instantly we had a huge competitive advantage, and used it.
So yes - WWII did bring us out of the GD, however it wasn’t due to the war’s job creation, it was because of the physical destruction of our competitors.
Since most of the money during the war was allocated for the destruction of our enemies little was spent for domestic consumption. This caused a lot of pent-up demand after the war ended. Such demand kept spending - and thus employment - up.
Since most of the money during the war was allocated for the destruction of our enemies little was spent for domestic consumption.
No - domestic consumption was actually up during the war, at least in terms of non-military GDP growth.
Even still - 4 years of thriftiness doesn’t begin to translate into 30 years of booming economy due to delayed demand.
After the war old worn out cars needed to be replaced which boosted the auto industry.
Levitt-type houses were built by the thousands to house the returning GIs. These houses needed to be furnished, supporting infrastructure (roads, electricity, sewers, water, etc) had to be built.
This took money but a lot of money had been saved up during the war by frugal depression-era previously unemployed workers.
This went on throughout the last half of the Forties well into the Fifties. Along the way came TV and the various consumerist industries that went with it.
And that. packman. is basically been the Achilles heel of our economy. We’ve haven’t had to face reality for almost 60 years.
Combo - I agree that our domestic spending went up, by a bunch, after WWII. The key thing is though - all that domestic spending was met by domestic production, not by imports, which is why our economy boomed. It wasn’t met by imports because other countries were having to rebuild due to the war, rather than build export production. It was a lot easier for us to just retool our still-intact factories instead of total teardown and rebuild.
If for instance Japan had never gotten involved in the war, I venture the heyday of U.S. companies - Kodak, Honeywell, Ford, GM, etc. would have mostly instead been a Sony, Toyota, etc. heyday.
Same for Korea, incidentally. They’ve taken away huge market share now after recovering from their war. Note the approximate 10-year lag of Kia and Hyundai’s heydays behind Toyota and Nissan.
I’ll admit two things:
- This is conjecture of course, things having happened the way they did.
- I believe a big factor was also just post-war optimism. That effect in itself drives economic growth to some extent.
What I won’t ever agree to is that our exit from the GD was driven by WWII job creation, in any significant way.
So yes - WWII did bring us out of the GD, however it wasn’t due to the war’s job creation, it was because of the physical destruction of our competitors.
Well, this kind of thinking opens up all sorts of potentials for the ole USA. So, imagine we effectivly annexed Iraq. We stay there to “promote democracy” and control thier currency. Meanwhile we develop their oil reserves which we buy with our near worthless debt.
We also have set up a nice secure zone in Afganistan, so if we need to flank China/Iran/Packistan/India we have them on multiple fronts with nifty land based bombers/fighters.
Well, that fixes about half the trade deficit problem right there. Could be we drive the price of oil down by 50% in a couple years?
Having fun with the paranoid world conquest theories the last couple days.
What I won’t ever agree to is that our exit from the GD was driven by WWII job creation, in any significant way.
To add to that - belief in such a thing is really exactly the broken window theory of economics, which IMO is pure fallacy. You can’t create a strong economy by destroying things.
You can’t create a strong economy by destroying things.
P.P.S. - Unless of course you destroy everyone else’s things. But I’m not sure we want to try and go that route again; especially since many of our competitors now are nuclear-capable.
After the war the U.S. had minimal competition for various natural resources like oil.
As result of short term thinking like off shoring jobs / MFG to increase profits we are now competing for those natural resources.
Only problem is sooner or later we won’t have anything that other countries need or want that we can exchange for some of those natural resources like oil.
I recall reading that things were so dire during the GD that there was concern that there would be communist revolution in the US.
So we got socialism instead.
It seems us and Russia (and China) chose different paths to the same destination, with ours being less painful.
Kudos for that, at least.
Unless their pain was front loaded and ours is yet to come. I hope not.
Consider: All the major powers and have had some kind of real social and cultural evolution over the last 20 year.
All but one: us.
“…and 1st world spheres…”
Is it too late for coffee?
I agree with you. I think a jobs creation program — not unlike the New Deal - updating parks, building levys and fixing highways, maybe even train tracks and burying telecom infrastructure, would be a great way to spend excess capital and put people to work.
The Roosevelt Recession of 1937 had an official unemployment rate of 20%.
They counted umemployment different back then. I think I heard that anyone over the age of 16 without a job was considered unemployed, no messing with filing for UI payment. That 20% was probably the similar to the U6 now.
We have SS and food banks to prevent the worst of the apple-selling and breadlines, but we do have Hoovervilles. However, our workforce is not so enterprising (or desperate). People back then were so desperate for jobs that they did jingle mail and drove anywhere that they thought there was a job. Now we sit and wait for COBRA subsidies.
That’s because back then, you didn’t have an electronic record that followed you everywhere for life.
You could literally go somewhere else and reinvent yourself and as long as you were a good citizen, kept your nose clean and didn’t cause any trouble, nobody at the new location cared.
Try that today.
On February 13th, 1933, journalist Garet Garrett wrote:
“This is what is new in this depression, and wherein it departs from history. In previous depressions, a bank that was book solvent and unable to pay its depositors had no alternative. It was obliged to go into bankruptcy and liquidate. A railroad that could not pay its creditors simply went into receivership and was liquidated. And so on. Such a thing as Government going into debt itself in order to assume and underwrite the debts of private enterprise was hitherto unimaginable.”
“Today the average American can’t imagine the government NOT assuming responsibility for bankrupt institutions. Even citizens who have done a poor job of managing their own financial affairs are begging for rescue from the federal government. (Read - taxpayer.)
I guess it isn’t different this time, after all?
Oh it is going to get very interesting from here… couple of thoughts bubbling around my head.
Look at Japan and their current struggles. How long will it take us to get there?
My guess is it will be amazingly fast with the asumption of private debt. We may have had some room for borrowing for emergencies before this crisis. If you throw on the explicit GSE backing, the GM backstops and all the other bailout nonsense… oh insolvency isn’t far behind.
Course the govt is going into an ever increasing debt spiral already. Perhaps we are already insolvent?
Just looking at how we squandered things… tech and housing bubbles…. wars… SUVs…
Perhaps it is a lot later than we expected.
But I would think that the small government, ownership society, libertarian every man for himself folks would be happy about government debt. It’s like those that don’t really believe in public education, but can’t get away with getting rid of it, so they dismantle it and make it less effective bit by bit. If the government has no money, they can’t pay for all the deadbeats and entitlement folks. It’s like the folks that complain about government bailouts to banks for housing are also complaining the government isn’t helping people with their housing problems. Not sure I’m saying this right, but it just seems everyone is hypocritically blaming everyone else and not even making sense anymore.
Re: broke government= libertarianism
you may have something there. I could envision alternate scenarios, but huge cuts to the military,social programs, and prison populations might be in the offing.
’starve the beast’, and we’ll have to
Today the average American can’t imagine the government NOT assuming responsibility for bankrupt institutions. Even citizens who have done a poor job of managing their own financial affairs are begging for rescue from the federal government. (Read - taxpayer.)
Wrong today the average CEO and Wall Street gambler can’t imagine the gov NOT assuming resonpsibility for bankrupt institutitons. As I recall the reaction to TARP was very negative either No or Hell No.
A couple of paragraphs that speaks volumes!
Hardy Har Har: “Oh me, oh my, oh dear”
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/2-700-florida-homeowners-to-get-6-000-242364.html
Unreal, where is my check for being screwed by the housing bubble?
mst be nationwaide…some CT FB’s are getting the same thing…. rationale: bait and switch, misleading documents, high pressure tactics at closing
That is a small settlement in light of property falling 40 to 60 % in Florida . Yes ,I hold Mozillo responsible for sustaining the bubble by his faulty no underwriting BS with all his crook dealers . CountryWide was big enough that it extended a big influence during the boom .
Mozillo had been around for enough years that he knew that
the loans were junk . He thought he could get out while the Company stocks were pumped up knowing very well that the market was bogus ,IMHO . At one point Mosillo in essence said that he was only doing what the government wanted him to so in providing loans to sub-prime buyers .Later, Mozillo got more defensive in his comments .
It’s funny ,at one point Mozillo in essence said that he was retiring because his grand children were going to college . At another point Mozillo started screaming that the Government had to do something (meaning friends of Mozillo ,Senator Dodds ,etc.)
when it became difficult to sell these bundles of junk loans in the Secondary market . It’s funny ,hes bitching because investors wont
buy his junk anymore that started to default within 3 months because of
massive fraud . Thats how bad Mozillo got toward the end in order to pump up the Company Stock .If anybody should take a perk walk it’s the ex CEO of CountryWIde ,better known as the Tan Man
GS was just as corrupt IMHO .
Nice - susect some of the scammers that flipped houses will get thier share of the settlement.
US APNewsAlert
(AP) – 38 minutes ago
WASHINGTON — Foreign demand for U.S. Treasury securities falls by record amount as China reduces holdings.
Reduces is right!:
Nov: $789B
Dec: $755B
That’s more than a 5% drop is just one month.
Don’t worry though, the financially-healthy UK is there to pick up the slack:
Nov: $277B
Dec: $302B
Ah, the London-NYC/DC death embrace!
Pasted this chart below as well. Some historical perspective. The London-DC connection is indeed… interesting. Note that they always accumulate every year, and then dump in March. Except march 2009, when they bought big-time. Hmmm…
The Japanese seem to be stepping up big time, how long can that go on? Especially since they have a new bushel of their own debt to unload!
The Japanese seem to be stepping up big time, how long can that go on? Especially since they have a new bushel of their own debt to unload!
I’m wondering that myself. It’s not like they have lots of money to throw around. I’m guessing it’s a “partners in crime” kind of thing - same as with the U.K. Us grand-debtors have to stick together!
Not to worry. We can just buy all of our own debt. Don’t need no stinkin’ Chinese buyers.
Volcker says Financials need “Euthanasia”
But he earned his place in history for something he did almost three decades ago. Paul Volcker killed inflation.
You will remember that in the 1970s, the United States was experiencing uncontrolled inflation, higher than at any time in its modern history. Savings were being wiped out. Wages were escalating every month.
Then, in 1979, Paul Volcker was appointed chairman of the Fed. And he began to raise interest rates to crush inflation. It succeeded. And it actually had a follow-on effect around the world, ushering in an era of low inflation, low interest rates and strong growth.
What impresses me most about Volcker was his willingness to do something that was deeply unpopular in the short term for the long- term good of the country. Today what he did is widely praised, but at the time, he was burned in effigy as a job destroyer.
By FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST: This is GPS, the GLOBAL PUBLIC SQUARE CNN
Revenge for the Dali Lama meet?
“This is the captain speaking. I want to thank you again for flying WFA, World Financial Airlines. Unfortunately it appears our Central Bank appointed flight engineer has miscalculated the amount of fuel necessary to cross the atlantic ocean. Impact will occur in 5 minutes. Please remember to use your seat bottoms as a flotation device. As consideration for this most unfortunate circumstance we are providing free peanuts to all passengers. Hard alcohol may only be purchased with gold or silver. Again, thank you for choosing WFA”
I shared a seat on the bus with a woman who is working in DC now, but whose permanent job is with the Chinese central bank. She’ll go back to Bejing in the spring. I gave her an earful of HBB wisdom. Very fun conversation. We exchanged business cards. I talked pretty freely since it was all public information and nothing at all related to my job. Since the topic was closer to her job, she as much more reticent. I think we’ll have lunch sometime. I wonder if I can get her to open up a bit.
Topics ranged from why I never seriously considered buying when private credit was so loose and won’t now that downpayment requirements and interest rates are kept historically low through government intervention to effects of recourse vs. non-recourse loans on jingle mail and the implications of balanced budget requirements of state and local governments. It wasn’t wrong, but it felt a little wierd to be so blunt with someone who might actually be in a position to use the information. Also touched on the fact that policies (such as explicit guarantees of Fannie and Freddie debt) could change at the next election.
Strategic foreclosure
that’s waht they called it on the CBS morning news show this morning. Unlike Matt Laur’s treatment a few weeks ago, the idea this morning was presented as a viable option. The “expert” said it was worth considering for anyone 20% underwater or more.
I agree but was stunned that she would give such a low number.
Loose lips sink ships.
I thought of that, too, but then I thought “do we really gain anything from China not knowing the ugly truth?”. I can’t think of any way that’s the case, but am curious if others can.
And it is all just public information. Maybe not easily found exactly the way I presented it, but totally public. It isn’t hard to find out that in some states first mortgages are recourse and in other states they are non-recourse and what that means. It is no secret that policies change when administrations change - this was in the general context of a discussion of governments making long term plans. She was making a few remarks about China’s 5 year plans and not sounding all that impressed by the results. The fact that states are bumping up against severe budget issues and that they have to balance their budgets is all over the MSM these days. Her primary reaction was that cuts in state budgets would cause higher unemployment (jobs for people leaving rural areas being a huge concern of the Chinese government). And my reasons for not buying real estate over the years? Obviously mine to tell or not tell as I choose even if it involves showing how artificially low interest rates and downpayment requirements inflate prices.
Like I said. It was all very proper Washington. We talked, but I didn’t talk about my work and she didn’t talk about hers. There is an unwritten agreement not to force the other person to actually get to “I can neither confirm nor deny.”
And in the long run, I don’t think that it is to the benefit of the US for anyone in the world who may be buying our bonds to be in the dark about the dynamics at play. The market needs information to set an appropriate risk premium. Even if the Fed messes with it, they should know how much messing they have to do to get rates down where they want them. What good is it if they get to fool themselves into thinking that demand for US debt is higher than it really would be if all the information was out there and the “dots” connected?
Yeah, no wonder the Chinese reduced their holdings of US treasuries. Way to go, polly. What’s your encore, crashing the stock market over lunch?
was cleaning out freezer last night after i came back from the grocery store.
i buy the individually wrapped purdue chicken breasts. i had one from like six months ago and i had bought a new one.
the one from six months ago came with 6 chicken breasts.
the new one came with 5…and no noticeable price change.
Do the chicken breasts just weigh more each? Maybe the chickens did an MEW on the coop and they all got boob jobs.
What was the weight of each package? And what was the price per pound?
i’ll check when i get home this evening.
the weight was less in the 5 breast package.
I think Perdue is kind of expensive. How about store brand chicken breasts ?
there must be a youtube video showing the evisceration process of factory-produced chicken…….do yourself a favor and go vegetarian
Good thing there’s no inflation or a trend like this could be bad…
Everyone getting a laugh out of the incredible shrinking boxes of crackers, cookies, and cereal these days? No inflation there, either!
“No inflation there, either!”
Or … Volume sales are down so profit margins need to be widened or stockholders will get grumpy.
Less product for the same amount of money boosts profitability for a while, but eventually customers (and competitors) catch on and market share will begin to slip.
I chuckle at the incredible increase in “value added” products. Juice boxes, soups that come in their own bowl, yogurt with the little container of granola on top… my favorite is the special bags of frozen veggies that you can steam in the microwave. As if it’s too difficult to boil your own water?
Foreign demand for Teasury securities falls
Foreign demand for US Treasury securities falls by record amount as China reduces holdings.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The government says that foreign demand for U.S. Treasury securities fell by the largest amount on record in December with China reducing its holdings by $34.2 billion.
The reductions in holdings, if they continue, could force the government to make higher interest payments at a time that it is running record federal deficits.
The Treasury Department reported that foreign holdings of U.S. Treasury securities fell by $53 billion in December, surpassing the previous record of a $44.5 billion drop in April 2009.
The big drop in China’s holdings meant that it lost the top spot in terms of foreign ownership of U.S. Treasuries, dropping to second place behind Japan.
So long as l-t Treasury yields remain perpetually low, why does it even matter who buys them?
The end of the line? Be ready for a crippling “terrorist attack” to blame the collapse on when the ponzi creators (government and banks) finally throw in the towel. Does anyone agree with me?
PB, I hope you’re not allergic to tin foil. A terrorist attack may succeed due to incompetence, however.
Generation Greed, perpetually unwilling to suffer the slightest short term inconvenience (let along sacrifice) to avoid long term disaster, and the politicians who have pandered to it, have left us dependent on foreign oil and money.
Frankly, I’d prefer for the plug to be pulled now when they can share in the consequences.
Generation Greed, perpetually unwilling to suffer the slightest short term inconvenience (let along sacrifice) to avoid long term disaster, and the politicians who have pandered to it,
I think it’s the opposite. For example, with the right political leadership after 9/11 , Americans would have sacrificed for an energy “Manhattan Project”. However we were told “go shopping”, to “hold hands and buy a SUV.”
When were we asked to sacrifice, to suffer? We were not even given the chance to “suffer” lower house prices without our government bastardizing “free markets”.
Most Americans were and are against the bailouts and we know what not having them might have entailed.
But I cannot think of one time in the past 20 years when we were ASKED to sacrifice for the good of America, however in health-care, jobs, outsourcing, pensions, pay scale and quality of life, Americans HAVE suffered.
Oh, many are sacrificing, they just aren’t sacrificing for themselves and their loved ones - that’s all. They’re sacrificing for the banker men - one monthly payment at a time!
Right on the mark as usual Rio…
Remember the tax deduction for vehicles OVER 6,000 pounds that got added to the tax code post 9-11,
unbelievably it’s still there….the number of qualifying vehicles to over 40 different models, many weighing in just over the threshold….
Right ,I think Rio is right . The sheep actually listen to the PR machine ,especially when they aren’t getting any contrary data
to weigh .The Government told people to go shop because they didn’t want them to be scared to carry on as normal . The government didn’t say to buy shit way beyond affordable on credit and become a debt slave . Wall Street /Lenders with their faulty easy money lending created that scam in the aftermath of 911.
Wall Street took advantage of the 911 aftermath ,just at the time that deregulation started to come into play .Had Glass- Steagall not been tossed ,this disaster would of been limited
IMHO . Political lobbying is the greatest evil ,rather than a
certain generation being at fault I think . Also ,the elimination of the capital gains tax on real estate up to 500k helped in creating “FLIPPER NATION “,and helped turn real estate into a 2 year flipping investment plan ,and this is how real estate was sold ,IMHO . The money Wall Street was making only continued to feed into the greed profits motive while they got the public into all the real estate myths .Yes ,mass brainwashing is something that can happen .Think back about how 80% of the commercials were real estate related ,along with the mind think of real estate being the pot of gold that would provide you with what you think you deserve . Crazy ,wasn’t it .
Don’t Companies/ Lenders/government have a duty not to throw a Ponzi debt scheme on the public that they couldn’t afford by any reasonable standards . This wasn’t business as usual and they should of never messed with real estate ,or Health care for that matter . The Politicians were to bought off and to stupid to see where their Masters were taking us ,and still taking us .
“Don’t Companies/ Lenders/government have a duty not to throw a Ponzi debt scheme on the public that they couldn’t afford by any reasonable standards ?”
No. Those laws were repealed long ago.
No joke.
Remember the Keating 5.
Which generation is ‘generation greed’?
OT, my daughter (HS junior) received 12 college brochures in the mail today. She has received hundreds over the last year. Out of state public schools are mailing now. They are getting desperate for paying customers.
“They are getting desperate for paying customers.”
Lol. They used to be called students, now they are customers.
The New Reality.
Have you heard ANYBODY use the word “citizen” lately? As in the last 10-20 years.
Since congress doesn’t have the balls to just say no regarding borrowing and spending maybe China is doing us a favor.
This combined with China’s local tightening on bank lending sugest something.
1. The end of china lending large sums to the US
2. China angry at US policy actions firing a shot over the bow.
If 1 then I would suspect they would not be tightening the reigns in China as demand in the US would fall.
Some historical perspective.
Sure enough China appears to be ending its love affair with U.S. treasuries. It looks downright bubbly actually, though who knows since the U.S. debt itself isn’t exactly going to plummet any time soon.
Of note - check out the U.K. Every year they accumulate and then do a major sell-off in March. Except 2009. Hmmm….
Where’d those Caribbean banks get all that dough? Not from Haiti, I’m guessing…
Good question.
In general all this behavior seems quite bizarre.
- Why did China’s purchases only really ramp up after about 2002? We’ve been in a big trade deficit with them since long before then.
- Why did Japan’s pick up all of the sudden in 2002/2003, only to level off again the next year? Why are they now picking up again?
- What’s up with the crazy U.K.?
Seems like there is a *lot* of shenanigans that goes on in trading foreign treasuries. Though in reality a lot I’m sure has to do with exchange rates, so maybe not such a big deal.
The big question now is - now that the Fed has stopped buying, and China’s selling - who the heck is buying all the new treasuries ($1.6T per year)? And why?
It’s geopolitical economic warfare. A game as old as nations.
All printing presses full steam ahead! Really, what does it matter if China or Japan or anybody else buys treasuries. The FED can buy as many treasury bills as it wants. This is of course no long term solution but it will kick the can further down the road. The further we postpone the day of reckoning the worse the outcome will be.
Guess this is why the stock market’s up today. This good news must have been priced in weeks ago.
Here is what we get to look forward to if the TBTF problem remains unfixed:
David Weidner’s Writing on the Wall
Feb. 16, 2010, 2:55 a.m. EST
What Citigroup knows that you don’t
Commentary: Citi’s latest ‘financial innovation’ needs more scrutiny
Wall Street’s latest contagion goes global
Robin Hood and Goldman Sachs, the movie
By David Weidner, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Questions of the day: Would you buy a round-trip ticket on an airplane prone to crashes? How about a car with a history of serious brake problems? Interested in a TV that works great, except for the picture?
If you answered yes to any of those, do I have an investment opportunity for you.
…
Those are not rhetorical questions either.
1. Airbus
2. Subaru
3. Phillips LCD
anybody seeing article like this where they live?
CT regional school district (Region 7- small poor towns) are looking at a 30% increase in their health insurance premiums and 4.75% increase in teacher salaries.
schools are funded through property taxes in this state (except for big cities that get lots of state aid).
February and march are when budgets get drafted around here, approving referenda are in may.
Rubber meet Road.
Yep
Now that the public option is dead insurance companies are pushing through massive increases.
Nah, the healthcare industry was pushing through increases before any public option was dead, confident that Free Market Patriots® would protect them by constraining the number of people who could even opt-in to a public option. And that was the worst-case scenario. The industry was never worried — any viable legislative result (a limited public option, a bill with no public option, no change in the status quo) would allow them to keep increasing costs.
I think this whole idea of preventative health care is whats wrong with the system. Between everybody being on some type of medication, visiting doctors for screening, the media…health media, has convinced everyone, that if you come see us, we can make you live longer. I compare the health campaign to be just like the realtors of the housing bubble. Get in now, before your priced out. What happens if people decide not to take the latest drug, not to run to the emergency room evertime a sniffle occurs, not to try and live forever. Yep, prices come down..less sales. Face it, Americans are a bunch of hypochandriacs. The difference between the snake oil salesman of the 1800’s and now is that they now sell from tv, rather than wagons. I personally haven’t seen a doctor in ten years…what for? I’ve never had a flu shot, never got the flu, don’t get colds, feel great. I have to laugh when they come out with the statistic, that the average american spends 7k on health care. Oops, maybe Iam sick. Sick of the propaganda.
Want to see hpochondriacs? Go to France (i don’t know aboutthe rest of europe)
Maybe there is more influenza in northern france than i am used to seeing in connecticut but those people call the doctor pretty fast.
i don’t know about MRI’s every time you turn around or if there is unnecessary testing once you are examined by a doctor
i talked to an albanian (fwiw, those people are worth two americans in terms of work ethic/productivity) who had just arrived. He had felt sick so he went to the emergency room. he said he didn’t know that in america the thing to do is ask the pharmacist what to take.
I had a friend that worked in a GNC (vitamin store). when i visited him it was like he was a doctor….people explaining their ailments and him recommending this or that for treatment.
Saw a nasty spider bite, swollen, bruised and a little puss.
Didn’t somebody suggest the other day that emergency rooms/hospitals should not treat non-citizens?
Who walks around with proof of citizenship in their pocket? Anyone can get adriver’s license. Will your artery bleed out before somebody shows up with a birth certificate? Does it have to be an official copy?
Didn’t somebody suggest the other day that emergency rooms/hospitals should not treat non-citizens?
I didnt suggest it, but I think they shouldnt treat them for routine situations over an extended period of time. Give them incentive to go back home.
I agree. If its truly a life or death scenario, then treat anyone. Besides, isn’t that what ER’s are for anyway?
So the dialysis patient gets one treatment….or only if on the brink of death?
The ailments will just worsen until they become lifethreatening, then the hospital is on the hook for all the heroic end of life procedures.
better find another operational model.
I didn’t suggest it but I’m all for it. Anything immediately not life threatening = southern bound bus ticket. A life threatening injury = temporary patch job then bus ticket.
I heard a story from a friend the other day. A co-worker told him that a relative from Mexico had a child that was sick. I can’t remember the exact injury but I think it may have been a broken bone. They drove all the way from Mexico to San Jose, Ca to get treated at the County hospital. Why are we expected to pay for foreigners health care?
Could somebody on the “Hope & Change train” steer it south and verify reciprocity with the Mexican government?
This is complete insanity
It’s up to the US to police its borders, set immigration/visitation policy.
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — Walt Serafin, a manager for a biotechnology company in Kansas City, Kansas, is getting an iPhone as a reward from American Express Co.
That’s not what U.S. card issuers and their lobbyists predicted could happen when they opposed legislation limiting abrupt contract changes such as interest rate increases. The American Bankers Association, a Washington-based trade group, said the law would penalize cardholders with high credit scores, making them subsidize losses from lower-scoring consumers.
The bill was passed by Congress anyway and signed by President Barack Obama in May. Most of its provisions go into effect Feb. 22. Instead of being punished, Serafin and others with credit scores above 750 continue to receive rewards and promotional offers as banks battle to retain premium customers, said Ben Woolsey, director of marketing and consumer research at CreditCards.com, an online resource for cardholders based in Austin, Texas.
“These are the customers the banks are vying for,” said Woolsey. “They’ve come through unscathed.”
Credit-card write-offs, or loans deemed uncollectible, jumped 59 percent to $89 billion last year from $56 billion a year earlier, according to R.K. Hammer Investment Bankers, a Thousand Oaks, California-based adviser to card issuers. Banks may lose $5.5 billion in interest income because of the legislation this year and $11 billion in 2011, based on estimates by R.K. Hammer.
Imagine that banks yelling fire in order to get their way.
I seem to recall that credit cards didn’t vye for high-FICO customers because they tended to be deadbeats just for the reward goodies. CC’s like the subprimes because subprimes racked up all the fees. Now CC’s want the deadbeats? The worm has turned.
I’ve got great credit and have had an Amex card for years, no one has offered me a free iPhone. Where do I sign up?
Rule number one: if the banks don’t like it, it’s a good law/rule/regualtion.
Nurseries struggle with lagging economy.
Nurseries, landscaping businesses suffer in stalled economy, experts expect a slow recovery.
PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — Like his father, grandfather and great-grandfather, David Niklas feels the quickening of spring as the season ramps up at his wholesale nursery in a farming community south of Portland. Niklas and his workers busily package plants for shipment.
These days, his flowers and vegetable seedlings have fewer places to go, as the housing bubble burst and the state and national economies flatlined.
Just three years after reaching a record high of almost $1 billion in sales, Oregon’s nursery industry has plummeted into an historic slump. Nurseries are laying off employees, cutting costs and foregoing new buildings and equipment.
A few, like Niklas’ Clackamas Greenhouses, have gone bankrupt.
“The family has poured money into it as we tried to restructure it and make new markets,” said Niklas, who had to file bankruptcy after losing almost half his sales when his primary retailer was bought out. “Commercial lenders aren’t talking to me because I’m coming out of bankruptcy.
Businesses that depend on DISCRETIONARY consumer spending are hosed.
Which, we get to discover as we slowly wind down to the basics, is most of them.
I recall from Lee Iacocca’s autobio that he mentioned that his father was in the grocery busienss during the depression, because ‘people have to eat’, or something to that effect.
I’m going to open a store called
oatmeal and peanut butter are us.
It will offer nothing but oatmeal and peanut butter and maybe we will splurge with Ramen Fridays.
Don’t forget the Mac and Cheese!
…after losing almost half his sales when his primary retailer was bought out…
It sure is convenient, but it’s also pretty risky to depend on one customer for half your sales.
I get wholesale lists from nurseries in the greater Portland area. Prices were as much as 50% off last year. They were begging for business. A lot of the big growers were expanding in size with the bubble. They bought up vast tracts of acreage, and now I’d imagine they’re saddled with huge debt loads. The past 10 years were an economic fantasy which has ended in a nightmare. When I’m reminded that bubbles Bernanke is still keeping rates artificially low, I feel like I’m living a bad dream.
Before I had my last water harvesting workshop at the Arizona Slim Ranch, the workshop leader and I made a trip to a local nursery. It specializes in drought-tolerant plants, and we picked a beautiful October afternoon to go over there.
Place was all but deserted.
I couldn’t believe it, because this is a very well-regarded nursery, and October is prime planting season in southern Arizona.
BTW, the plants (except for one that I didn’t water enough) are thriving. I should get out there and shoot some photos of ‘em.
slimmy,
how do you get around in Tuk-sun without a car?
I ride a bicycle. If I’m carrying a heavy load, I attach a trailer to the bike.
how far can you ride when it’s 110 F?
I don’t feel sorry for them. Prices were outrageous during the boom.
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — Walt Serafin, a manager for a biotechnology company in Kansas City, Kansas, is getting an iPhone as a reward from American Express Co.
That’s not what U.S. card issuers and their lobbyists predicted could happen when they opposed legislation limiting abrupt contract changes such as interest rate increases. The American Bankers Association, a Washington-based trade group, said the law would penalize cardholders with high credit scores, making them subsidize losses from lower-scoring consumers.
The bill was passed by Congress anyway and signed by President Barack Obama in May. Most of its provisions go into effect Feb. 22. Instead of being punished, Serafin and others with credit scores above 750 continue to receive rewards and promotional offers as banks battle to retain premium customers, said Ben Woolsey, director of marketing and consumer research at CreditCards.com, an online resource for cardholders based in Austin, Texas.
“These are the customers the banks are vying for,” said Woolsey. “They’ve come through unscathed.”
Credit-card write-offs, or loans deemed uncollectible, jumped 59 percent to $89 billion last year from $56 billion a year earlier, according to R.K. Hammer Investment Bankers, a Thousand Oaks, California-based adviser to card issuers. Banks may lose $5.5 billion in interest income because of the legislation this year and $11 billion in 2011, based on estimates by R.K. Hammer.
Michael Tristani came from his native Florida wearing gold necklaces and a Rolex and driving a Lexus. He proved as foreign as a flamingo in a place where pickups, farm caps and flannel shirts are de rigueur.
“People thought I was a drug dealer,” he said.
That’s funny
Michael Tristani came from his native Florida wearing gold necklaces and a Rolex and driving a Lexus. He proved as foreign as a flamingo in a place where pickups, farm caps and flannel shirts are de rigueur.
“People thought I was a drug dealer,” he said.
He probably was. Either that or his grocery store union was really, really good. Maybe his wife pole danced on the side while trying to sell houses in post bubble Florida.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a follow up story later confirms that he was a drug dealer in Florida and he and the wife decided that they had to get out of Dodge in a hurry.
People don’t travel enough - specifically people don’t travel enough outside their own social circles. I can so picture that dude on a cruise ship or the Vegas Strip - that’s probably the extent of his life’s travels. Otherwise he would have known you don’t travel to someplace like ND looking like that.
I dress conservatively in Europe. Wearing slacks and a tweed sportcoat, I was mistaken for “ein Englander” one morning in Saltzburg, Austria. Funny story.
Same here, I try not to paint the picture of the ugly american. In Istanbul the vendors guessed I was Canadian.
Audit finds US census preparations wasted millions.
Census preparations wasted millions as temps collected checks for excessive travel, training.
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Census Bureau wasted millions of dollars in preparation for its 2010 population count, including thousands of temporary employees who picked up $300 checks without performing work and others who overbilled for travel costs.
Federal investigators caution the excessive charges could multiply once the $15 billion headcount begins in earnest next month unless the agency imposes tighter spending controls, according to excerpts of a forthcoming audit obtained by The Associated Press.
On a positive note, investigators backed the Census Bureau’s decision to spend $133 million on its advertising campaign, saying it was appropriate to boost public awareness. The spending included a $2.5 million Super Bowl spot that some Republicans had criticized as wasteful.
The findings by Todd Zinser, the Commerce Department’s inspector general, highlight the difficult balancing act for the Census Bureau as it takes on the Herculean task of manually counting the nation’s 300 million residents amid a backdrop of record levels of government debt.
I read in the paper that locally the census bureau has already received a record number of applications for the temporary jobs and that the caliber of the applicants is very high.
And then I found out that they are still administering tests for applicants. If they already have enough qualified applicants, why are they still testing more applicants?
Yes, I know the answer: They have X dollars budgeted for testing, and they will use every last one.
From the Bradenton Herald (Florida)
PALMETTO — A high-rise condominium in Palmetto that fell into foreclosure now has a new owner, who has slashed prices by hundreds of thousands of dollars. The new owners of Bel Mare at Riviera Dunes, near the southeast corner of U.S. 41 at Haben Boulevard, is offering condo units originally priced between $435,000 to $1.4 million for as little as $140,000.
Down goes the comps. Down goes bank collateral backed by the comps.
Up goes bank balance sheets after the Fed buys the bad securities based on that collateral.
Perhaps. We’ll see.
Some recent events to ponder:
A secret meeting among the world’s financial heavies. When it was over the Fed wanted to drain a trillion dollars to put into MM funds.
The Democrats lost a long-held seat in Mass. Immediately after that Obama trotted out Volcker, a no-nonsense sound-money icon.
It may mean nothing, it may mean a lot. I’m hoping it means a sea-change of some sort. We’ll see.
“wanted to”, or just said they would? Not necessarily the same thing.
Either way - summer 2010 is going to start getting really interesting again, seems to me. The Fed has apparently shifted their treasury purchases under the table - I’m wondering if they’ll do the same with MBS, and if so - can they get away with it?
and if so - can they get away with it?
What ever happened to all that audit talk?
This is just a couple miles from me. Still overpriced.
BTW what happened to Palmetto ?
Our states may be facing more budget pressures as government employee pension plans become a bigger liability. A new 50 state study found that as of 2006, states had accumulated $360 billion in unfunded pension obligations. That was 2006. Since then we have had a collapse of our financial market and a record number of people deciding to get out and retire early. Other estimates with recent data put our states’ current unfunded pension liabilities at $1 trillion.
Case in point: Illinois. It seems as though Illinois is running a Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme in order to keep government pension plans afloat in his state. In January of this year, the state of Illinois sold $3.5 billion in “pension obligation notes.” That’s a fancy way of saying that the state borrowed money in order to finance its state’s contribution to five retirement systems - the teachers unions ($2.08 billion), Illinois state universities ($702.5 million), the Illinois State Board of Investments ($813 million), and the Illinois General Assembly Retirement System.
So what happens when these bonds (plus interest) have to be repaid in five years? They will have to borrow more money, and the cycle continues until it collapses.
~ Clipped from Neal Boortz
Are state pension plans insured by the PBGC as private industry DB plans are? It’s a round about way of wondering if state penison plans are ultimately going to wind up the responsibility of the US taxpayer.
At some point in the not too distant future several states are just not going to be able to continue to write the checks.
Another stupid supplement to Big Business that underfund their Pension Plans to have it go to a Government obligation in the end ,while the Insurance premiums weren’t nearly enough .
Corporations were allowed to count “projected” revenues from investments to replace the cold hard cash that was needed to fund their pensions.
Amazingly, these projected investment revenues failed to be forthcoming, hence the current pension underfunding situation.
It helps immensely for pension fund managers to invest procyclically, producing outsized gains which obviate the need for contributions to the pension fund during good funds, but which blow up (along with the company) during the bust, at which point the pension plan becomes the PBGC’s problem.
In January of this year, the state of Illinois sold $3.5 billion in “pension obligation notes.” That’s a fancy way of saying that the state borrowed money in order to finance its state’s contribution to five retirement systems …
It’s a looming tsunamis in the state of Illinois.
Small factions have been trying to raise the alert on this issue for years, but our state legislators seem unwilling or unable to change course. A “Pension Modernization Task Force” says that our unfunded pension liability exceeds $61 billion! (And that’s last year’s figure, I think.)
Now, now - what pol can be bothered about deficits and cuts when there’s an election to worry about! If you have the time, go visit the Capitol Fax website sometime - it’s good for a few laughs each day. The last thing on our pols’ minds is the economy and the deficit.
I went to the quarterly retirement plan oversight committee meeting in the 06488 for two hundred town employees. we’re 875 funded, top decile in the state according to the actuary.
we’re 875 funded,
87% funded
that’s my LAST typo!
87% funded sounds like a frackin’ miracle these days.
Tough times at Office Depot
February 16, 2010
(Fortune Magazine) — In the midst of a recession that has hit business and consumer spending especially hard, it may not be so surprising that retailer Office Depot is having a rough go of things: The No. 2 office-supplies chain lost money in each of the past five quarters and is expected to lose $96 million this year.
But the company, based in Boca Raton, Fla., is facing troubles that go deeper than reduced demand for paper and pens: namely, an investigation by the SEC that’s in the final stages of settlement and a fresh round of probes into whether the company overcharged government customers.
Say it ain’t so Joe!
I don’t know how it is in your locale, but here in Tucson, the Office Depot/Max stores have been devoid of customers for years. I’ve been tempted to stop by one of them when I’ve needed a place to take an afternoon nap. They’re that quiet.
Same here in Loveland. Ghost towns.
The MarketWatch people are calling this guy’s Australian housing bubble warning a “one-man tea party.” Guess the MSM hasn’t run out of straw men yet?
Feb. 16, 2010, 1:11 a.m. EST
Australian economist warns of bubble in nation’s housing
By Chris Oliver, MarketWatch
HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — Australia’s seemingly bulletproof economy could soon face fallout from high debt levels and purportedly misguided policies designed to pump up asset prices, according to an outspoken skeptic of the nation’s housing boom.
Economist Steve Keen of the University of Western Sydney, who claims to have accurately foreseen the global financial crisis, said he’s been dismayed by what he sees as a growing nationwide housing bubble stoked by government efforts to forestall economic pain.
Keen points to a first-time homebuyer subsidy program, various other stimulus programs, and a 4-percentage-point reduction in interest rates — policies introduced in the wake of the 2008 crash and which he termed “The Boost” — as having helped fueled a new housing boom and a 6% rise in mortgage debt last year.
“The Boost has … given Australia a dubious distinction when compared to the rest of the OECD. Yes, we are the only country that avoided a technical recession; but we are also the only country where debt levels are rising once more compared to GDP, rather than falling,” Keen wrote in comments posted on his Web site, keenwalk dot com dot au.
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The MSM has a persistently myopic focus on the DJIA, ignoring countervailing drops in the exchange rate value of the dollar. Even the Euro is up by over one percent today relative to the dollar.
CURRENCY VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE TIME
EUR-USD 1.3762 0.0164 1.2029% 12:24
GBP-USD 1.5764 0.0104 0.6621% 12:24
USD-CHF 1.0671 -0.0106 -0.9799% 12:24
USD-SEK 7.1808 -0.0625 -0.8627% 12:24
USD-DKK 5.4084 -0.0652 -1.1918% 12:24
USD-NOK 5.8514 -0.0685 -1.1574% 12:23
USD-CZK 18.8900 -0.3142 -1.6362% 12:24
USD-SKK 21.8900 -0.2674 -1.2069% 12:23
USD-PLN 2.8913 -0.0733 -2.4729% 12:24
USD-HUF 197.5520 -2.7925 -1.3938% 12:23
USD-RUB 30.0240 -0.2009 -0.6648% 12:23
USD-TRY 1.5066 -0.0100 -0.6626% 12:23
USD-ILS 3.7375 -0.0160 -0.4263% 12:23
Maybe the dollar has ended its dead cat bounce?
It’s all good, so long as the stock market keeps going up…
Stocks surge to start the week
By Alexandra Twin, senior writer
February 16, 2010: 11:54 AM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Stocks rallied Tuesday near midday as investors welcomed Merck’s better-than-expected quarterly results and the weaker dollar boosted commodity prices and shares.
The Dow Jones industrial average (INDU) rose 124 points, or 1.3%, over 2 hours into the session. The S&P 500 index (SPX) rose 14 points, or 1.3%. The Nasdaq composite (COMP) rose 23 points, or 1%.
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PB.
I’m calling B.S. on this rally, post-holiday, light volume if we’re up 100 on the DOW before 10:00 am tomorrow, I’m going long SPXU (S+P double short)
February is one of the cruelest months
The stock market is fully decoupled from fundamentals and from the news. Hence I don’t have a clue where it goes from here, except I suspect there is plunge protection in place at DJIA = 10K.
Family budgets squeezed as VAT rise sends inflation soaring to 14-month high of 3.5% ~ Daily Mail Reporter UK ~16th February 2010
Families and savers are facing a massive squeeze on their finances after inflation soared beyond its official target last month.
The official Consumer Price Index(CPI) inflation measure has seen a record two month increase from 1.9 per cent in November to 3.5 per cent in January - the highest figure in 14 months.
At the same time the Retail Prices Index (RPI) inflation, which includes the cost of mortgages and housing, has also rocketed from 2.1per cent to 3.7per cent.
The figures mean that families already struggling to pay the bills as wages fall are being hit with huge increases on food essentials compared to January last year.
VAT is now 20% in GB. That’s about an 11% increase over the old 17.5% rate. Yeah I know, some financially illiterate reporter will call it a 2.5% increase.
Climategate: A Defiance of Arrogant Political Power
“Various cap-and-trade systems have been shown to be an extra tax, which may end up being distributed by the sticky fingers of the UN.”
“The allotted 10-minute speaking time for President Hugo Chavez became a one-hour rant against capitalism. He received a standing ovation. This is what Copenhagen was about.”
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/climategate-a-defiance-of-arrogant-political-power/
IMO higher taxes distributed by a bunch of wasteful, limp wristed bureaucrats is exactly what we don’t want. Follow the money, you’ll find the trail leads to a bunch of arrogant elites (Al Bore, Michael Moore, etal) who have been able to convince an ever decreasing % of the population that this spoof if real.
Peace to all,
Lip
Like real estate, the mean global temperature always goes up.
* The Wall Street Journal
* REVIEW & OUTLOOK
* FEBRUARY 16, 2010
The Continuing Climate Meltdown
More embarrassments for the U.N. and ’settled’ science.
It has been a bad—make that dreadful—few weeks for what used to be called the “settled science” of global warming, and especially for the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that is supposed to be its gold standard.
First it turns out that the Himalayan glaciers are not going to melt anytime soon, notwithstanding dire U.N. predictions. Next came news that an IPCC claim that global warming could destroy 40% of the Amazon was based on a report by an environmental pressure group. Other IPCC sources of scholarly note have included a mountaineering magazine and a student paper.
Since the climategate email story broke in November, the standard defense is that while the scandal may have revealed some all-too-human behavior by a handful of leading climatologists, it made no difference to the underlying science. We think the science is still disputable. But there’s no doubt that climategate has spurred at least some reporters to scrutinize the IPCC’s headline-grabbing claims in a way they had rarely done previously.
Take the rain forest claim. In its 2007 report, the IPCC wrote that “up to 40% of the Amazonian forests could react drastically to even a slight reduction in precipitation; this means that the tropical vegetation, hydrology and climate system in South America could change very rapidly to another steady state.”
But as Jonathan Leake of London’s Sunday Times reported last month, those claims were based on a report from the World Wildlife Fund, which in turn had fundamentally misrepresented a study in the journal Nature. The Nature study, Mr. Leake writes, “did not assess rainfall but in fact looked at the impact on the forest of human activity such as logging and burning.”
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Homebuilder Confidence Increase in February ~ 16 Feb 2010
The National Association of Home Builders says its housing market index rose two points in February, a sign that low interest rates and federal tax credits for buyers boosted confidence in consumer demand for new homes.
The builders group says the index reached 17 in February, after falling for two consecutive months.
The increase shows builders are feeling better about their prospects as evidence emerges that the job market may be improving. But challenges still exist, such as a high number of foreclosures and a lack of financing for new projects.
The index reflects a survey of 528 residential developers across the U.S. Index readings below 50 indicate negative sentiment about the market. The last time it was above 50 was in April 2006.
UPDATE 1-East West Resort Development files for Ch 11 bankruptcy
Feb 16, 2010
* Says unable to secure more capital from lenders
* Seeks court approval for $10 mln DIP loan
Feb 16 (Reuters) - East West Resort Development V LP LLLP, a U.S. luxury residential community developer, filed for bankruptcy protection early on Tuesday, saying it was unable to secure additional capital from its current lenders to fund development and other expenses.
In court filings, the company said it was formed to develop residential and commercial real estate projects on and around the North-at-Tahoe Resort, a residential development and year-round resort community located in North Lake Tahoe, California.
East West Resort Development, whose affiliate owns the five-star Ritz-Carlton Highlands at Lake Tahoe, said its properties had lost significant value over the past year and in some cases, assets were being valued below their loan balances.
The company said that as on Dec. 31, 2009, it had $256 million in assets. Excluding $189.4 million in contingent guarantee liabilities and bond obligations, it had $61 million in debt.
Explosion at JP Morgan office in Athens, Greece. No one hurt.
Maybe some banker told Amy Bishop that they were refusing her loan application.
lol
I thought Gollum’s swaps were the key issue; was JP Morgan in on the deal somehow?
Aren’t bomb blasts a fairly typical occurrence in Greece? It seems as though it would be jumping to conclusions to assume this story has anything to do with the involvement of Wall Street in the Greek sovereign debt crisis.
* The Wall Street Journal
* FEBRUARY 16, 2010, 2:12 P.M. ET
Bomb Explodes at Athens Offices of JPMorgan Chase
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NEW YORK -(Dow Jones)- A bomb exploded inside the building that houses J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.’s (JPM) offices in Athens, a spokesman in New York confirmed.
Only a few employees were present, and no one was hurt, the spokesman said. J.P. Morgan’s small operations in the Greek capital are located in a multi-tenant building.
The Associated Press reported the incident earlier. The bomb went off Tuesday evening after a warning call to an Athens newspaper, the AP said.
It’d be really interesting to see a transcript of that call.
Wasn’t there a bomb blast outside of JP’s NYC office in the 1920s? And, to this day, no one knows who was behind it?
Mario Buda, an Anarchist.
Will an abstract theorist be able to help the Fed improve on their ability to notice bubbles before they inflate to ginormous size then burst?
Bloomberg
Minneapolis Fed Gets ‘Best Abstract Theorist’ in Kocherlakota
February 16, 2010, 12:43 PM EST
More From Businessweek
By Vivien Lou Chen
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — Minnesotans like “fresh faces,” says Tom Welle, chairman of the Minnesota Bankers Association.
That’s what they are getting in Narayana Kocherlakota, the 46-year-old economics professor who delivers his first speech today as president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis.
When asked whether he’d heard of the new Fed official, Welle said: “To be honest with you, no. I haven’t figured out how to pronounce his name yet.” (Nair-ah-yah-nah Koach-er-lah- ko-tah, according to the bank’s Web site.)
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Did anyone at the Fed see the housing bubble as “likely to occur”? Just sayin’…
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 13:09
Minn Fed Pres: Warns of Infl Threat in High Excess Reserves
By Steven K. Beckner
WASHINGTON (MNI) - Minneapolis Federal Reserve Bank President Narayana Kocherlakota warned Tuesday that even though inflation is “relatively tame” now, the large volume of excess bank reserves creates “the potential for high inflation” if the Fed does not make “good policy choices.”
At the same time, Kocherlakota was pessimistic about the economic outlook, particularly as regards unemployment, saying he would be surprised if it drops below 9% by the end of this year or below 8% by the end of next year.
In his first major public speech since becoming president of the Minneapolis Fed on Oct. 9, 2009, the successor to Gary Stern said he sees real GDP growth of little more than 3% over the next two years and warned that the “nascent” recovery could be “curtailed” if problems in commercial real estate lead to a further contraction of bank lending.
Kocherlakota, in remarks prepared for delivery to the Minnesota Bankers Association in St. Paul, said “uncertainty” about government health care and other policies are also hindering recovery and job creation.
He stressed the need for the Fed to retain its role in banking supervision at a time when proposed legislation on Capitol Hill is threatening to end or limit that role.
“The positive news in this economy is that inflation has been relatively tame,” said the former University of Minnesota professor of economics.
But Kocherlakota added, “Here’s the caveat: Deposit institutions are holding over a trillion dollars of excess reserves (that is, over 15 times what they are required to hold given their deposits). These excess reserves create the potential for high inflation.”
“Suppose that households believe that prices will rise,” he continued. “They would then demand more deposits to use for transactions. Banks can readily accommodate this extra demand, because they are holding so many excess reserves.
“These extra deposits become extra money chasing the same amount of goods and so generate upward pressure on prices,” said. “The households’ inflationary expectations would, in fact, become self-fulfilling.”
“Why might households expect an increase in inflation?” Kocherlakota asked.
“The amount of federal government debt held by the private sector has gone up by over 30% since the beginning of 2008,” he said in answering his own question. “This debt can only be paid by tax collections or by the Federal Reserve’s debt monetization (that is, by printing dollars to pay off the obligations incurred by Congress).”
“If households begin to expect that the latter will be true — even if it is not — their inflationary expectations will rise as well,” he added.
Kocherlakota stressed that he views this scenario as “unlikely.”
“For it to transpire, we would need a combination of bad monetary policy and poor fiscal management,” he said. “I do not foresee this combination as likely to occur.”
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Suspect it won’t be long before the PTB whip this guy into shape and has him singing the “it’s all good” tune.
Come and listen to my story… Ahh forget it
2,700 Florida homeowners to get $6,000 checks as part of settlement with Countrywide
The Associated Press
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. — More than 2,700 Florida homeowners can look for a nice-sized check in their mailboxes this week.
The checks, which will be for just over $6,000 each, are part of a $16.9 million settlement with Countrywide Financial Corporation, Attorney General Bill McCollum said Monday.
In a 2008 lawsuit, McCollum claimed Countrywide put borrowers into mortgages they couldn’t afford or loans with rates and penalties that were misleading.
The attorney general has also called on Bank of America, which acquired Countrywide after the lawsuit was filed, to be more responsive to consumers who are trying to modify their loans to save their homes from foreclosure.
More than 2,700 Florida homeowners can look for a nice-sized check in their mailboxes this week.
The checks, which will be for just over $6,000 each, are part of a $16.9 million settlement with Countrywide Financial Corporation, Attorney General Bill McCollum said Monday.
In a 2008 lawsuit, McCollum claimed Countrywide put borrowers into mortgages they couldn’t afford or loans with rates and penalties that were misleading.
The attorney general has also called on Bank of America, which acquired Countrywide after the lawsuit was filed, to be more responsive to consumers who are trying to modify their loans to save their homes from foreclosure.
Copyright 2010, The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — U.S. lenders, criticized for being too reckless in the past and too stingy in the present, have been sitting on as much as $1.29 trillion in cash, equal to a record 98 cents for every dollar of existing business loans.
The ratio of cash to corporate loans has more than quadrupled from 21 cents in June 2008, according to Jan. 13 Federal Reserve data compiled by Bloomberg. Corporate loans shrank 14 percent to $1.32 trillion during that period as bankers tightened standards to curb record defaults and meet demands by regulators for more liquidity.
Banks are leaving more cash idle amid slack demand from borrowers throughout the economy and concern that regulators will require more liquidity to forestall another financial crisis. That’s crimping profit, and the result may be a drop in returns on equity by about 33 percent from pre-crisis levels, according to analysts at KBW Inc.
It appears the banks still want to hold onto cash.
It appears the banks still want to hold onto cash.
Gee I wonder why.
So it looks as though U.S. foreclosures averaged over 300,000 per month last year, for a 2009 total above 12*300,000 = 3.6 m? Or did I misread your graph somehow?
Where is all that foreclosure inventory settling out?
Yes, per RealtyTrac there were 3.96 million foreclosure filings in 2009.
Regarding inventory - who knows? RT showed just over 2M as of the end of the year. I’m sure it’s a mix of some resold, some for sale, and some held out of circulation (though I’m guessing your question was rhetorical).
Semi-rhetorical. I note that there is no convenient way (of which I am aware) to figure out exactly how much shadow inventory the banks are hiding under their rugs…
A banker is a fellow who will gladly loan you his umbrella when the sun is shining, only to demand it back the minute it begins to rain.
– Mark Twain –
A Wall Street investment banker is a fellow who will gladly loan you someone elses umbrella when the sun is shining and when it starts raining he will kick you in the balls and get his strong man (The gov) to take your umbrella, clothes, shoes and wallet.
Depite todays little pop in equities Gamestop (GME) continues to underperform (down over 1% ) today….on its way to zero.
Calling our Social Security system a “money-sucking old age pension system” sounds harsh, but it’s a problem to be faced. And an ad hoc tax hike has already been put upon Social Security recipients.
Consider - there was no cost of living increase for them this year. With price inflation officially running at 2.7 percent that means a cut in purchasing power of nearly 3 percent. There will be no COLA next year, either.. Moreover, there was an increase in Medicare premiums. Result…..oldsters are less well off. This may well be in the back of their minds on election day in November.
Where did you hear no COLA next year? They usually don’t make that decision until about October.
I’ll try and find it, was a short report from a D.C.policy watcher. Stated that, there were no plans for a COLA according to sources at the S.S. administration. 2010 through 2011.
So perhaps it will be re-thought by years end, since it is an election cycle.
Did you see my post on this subject in yesterday’s bits bucket?
I did not, I”ll have to go back and look.
There will be no COLA next year, either.. Moreover, there was an increase in Medicare premiums. Result…..oldsters are less well off. This may well be in the back of their minds on election day in November.
You forgot to mention that their treasuries and CD’s are returning next to nothing.
PTB are slowly increasing the heat, and soon the lobster will be cooked.
My mom reports an increase in her health insurance along with the lack of a COLA. Mom’s not happy.
Well, I’m bummed. Shocked is more like it, maybe even suffering from PTSD.
I went to a family (or)deal the other day and my nephew showed. He lives in Oregon, so I don’t see him often.
I found out he’s a banker.
This is kind of like finding out you have a felon in the family.
He even plays golf.
Where did we go wrong?
Hey, maybe he can be on our side and give us exclusive access to bank-owned homes that we can buy for pennies on the dollar.
Gotta exploit any advantage you can get.
Hey, we have a real estate agent in my family. One of my aunt’s three kids. When I visited my aunt last summer, very little was said about Cousin REIC, with his expensive tastes being the notable exception. We’re not flashy-blingy people, so he really stands out.
Ford lays off 900 workers at Mustang plant
Associated Press ~ Feb. 16, 2010
DETROIT — Ford Motor Co. said Tuesday that it plans to cut 900 workers at the Michigan plant that makes the Mustang, after slow sales last year due to the tough economy and competition from the new Chevrolet Camaro.
Ford will reduce shifts from two to one in July at the AutoAlliance International plant in Flat Rock, Mich. The plant, which is jointly owned with Mazda Motor Corp., also makes the Mazda6 midsize sedan.
The plant employs nearly 2,300 people. Most of the layoffs will be hourly manufacturing workers, but some salaried staff also will be cut, Ford spokeswoman Marcey Evans said.
“Merck reports bigger profit, aided by Schering buy
BOSTON (MarketWatch) — Merck & Co. reported fourth-quarter earnings early Tuesday that grew substantially, boosted by its Schering Plough acquisition — but the pharmaceutical behemoth also announced plans to lay off thousands of employees.
To that end, Merck announced what it called the first phase of a “global merger restructuring program” that will yield annual savings of approximately $2.6 billion to $3.0 billion in 2012.
One way they will do that is by cutting about 15% of its total workforce of 100,000 people, while also eliminating about 2,500 vacant positions. ”
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/merck-reports-bigger-profit-aided-by-schering-buy-2010-02-16
And what percent of those 15,000 to be laid of are in the US? I’m guess its close to 100%. Meanwhile, they’re probably still hiring in Bangalore.
Barry heads off on his “Sink the Senate” tour…
Sens. seek Obama boost on campaign trail. ~ Washington Times ~
President Obama kicks off what might be called his “Save the Senate” tour this week, heading west to campaign for two embattled Democrats trailing badly against Republican challengers - including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada.
Even Democratic strategists say a visit by the president - whose poll numbers have plummeted since taking office - carries risks for his fellow Democrats.
“It’s definitely a gamble,” said Democratic strategist Liz Chadderdon. “A handshake that raises $1 million now could cost them the election later.”
I wonder if he will lead with
I don’t begrudge the CEO’s on Wall Street. They are savy business men that earned those whopping big checks. You peons should be greatfull that I have teamed up with them to save the system that has made this country great. Now go eat cake.
LOL.
Maybe throw in an “… and I mean that in the nicest way possible.” at the end.
“Now go eat cake.”
The Republicans should come out with an “Obama cake” and hand out free slices that have lots of strings attached.
“Even Democratic strategists say a visit by the president - whose poll numbers have plummeted since taking office - carries risks for his fellow Democrats.”
Maybe he should visit with the Republicans instead.
Yes, he should stop off in Arizona and help sink McCain! Along with many others, he could call it the kiss of death tour.
He’s never come to Tucson. Not even during the campaign. And we’re feeling, well, deprived.
After all, it’s time that he learned how to honk -n- howl as he drives beneath the Fourth or Sixth Avenue underpasses. It’s a Tucson tradition.
Then there’s the Fourth Avenue freak show. He should be panhandled by them just like the rest of us are.
And how about a University of Arizona frat house party? He’ll be able to understand why Tucson was just named the 9th drunkest city in America. But we’ll try harder next time, we really will.
I still have a problem with Social security being the end all. Planned properly, all that should be returned to the retired person is the amount they paid in and a modest interest percentage. Cost of living increases are not necessary. These increases were never intended to make sure the retired were taken care of. The retiree was to provide the additional cost of living, by planning and saving. All I want back, is what I paid in, plus some interest. When it reaches that point, in versus out, stop my payments. Social security was designed to force people to save for retirement. It was never to be an entitlement. I would suggest, to fix the problem, only pay out what I have stated. When the money runs out, if you have not planned, well, too bad, you starve. i remember awhlie back, a native american friend of mine was getting social security for being disabled becuse of a booze additction.He never paid a dime of taxes. Thats where the program went astray. If you eliminate all those who collect based upon some kind of disability who have not paid in, the system would not be broke. Keep it simple, you pay in, you take out. No cola’s. Simple fix.
Agreed, however the boomers do out number us at the polls.
Terry, I’d go along with that. I’ve put in about $100,000 over the last 37 yrs.. Compound the interest on top of that and I’d be sitting pretty.
Motorists are still getting a break at the pump, as gasoline pump prices continued their monthlong slide on Tuesday, dropping to a new low for 2010.
Natural gas prices fell, even as another winter storm dumped as much as a foot of snow on the Midwest and the forecast called for cold temperatures for much of the nation for the rest of the month.
Oil still up despite what Saudi Arabia has called a likely 2007 peak in demand.
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Oil up more than $5 per barrel since mid day Friday. What’s the justification this time?
Fiatsco presses running on high blast to cover future cost of bailing out almost everything?
Oil Economics 101: “Supply & Demands”
You SUPPLY the need…the Cartel DEMANDS the price…
Yep, thus I enjoy riding my bike, and driving my electric car.
Hillary did it… said in public that Iran is moving toward a military dictatorship. Threatened sanctions.
On Tuesday Ahmadinejad stated, “If anyone does anything against Iran, then our response won’t be the same as in the past. No, we will definitely react and make them regretful.”
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At about 3.7 million barrels a day, Iran is OPEC’s second biggest producer.
they need the revenue more thatn we need the oil
You or I might believe that, but do investors? Will they gamble on it?
Today, with virtually no oil market problems and huge excess supply, oil should be near $30 a barrel but is nearer $80. Why? And what’s gonna happen if there’s trouble with Iran?
Iran has lots of problems aside from Ahmadinejad’s nuclear fetish, some of them internal. That govt may not be long for this world.
Uncertainty is bad for business, and what’s bad for business is worse for consumers.
Mexico sees 15 percent drop in tourism income’s.
February 15, 2010
MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico’s revenue from foreign tourism dropped 15 percent in 2009 amid the global economic downturn and the swine flu epidemic.
The Tourism Department says Mexico received almost $11.3 billion from foreign tourism in 2009, compared to $13.3 billion in 2008.
In the wake of the swine flu outbreak, revenue plummeted 49 percent in May compared to the same month in 2008. The epidemic virtually paralyzed Mexico, forcing the closure of schools, restaurants and archaeological sites. Some countries restricted air travel to Mexico.
Drug violence has also discouraged foreigners from visiting parts of Mexico.
Drug violence has also discouraged foreigners from visiting parts of Mexico
You can say that again. It’s had quite an effect on tourist traffic from southern Arizona.
Not to mention, dare I say it, the corruption. A few years ago, a neighbor’s daughter and son in law were shaken down by a bunch of men in military uniforms. Trust me, that was the last time any of them went to Mexico.
Dumped! Brand names fight to stay in stores.
February 16, 2010
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Don’t be shocked if you can’t find your favorite salad dressing or mouthwash on your next trip to Wal-Mart.
Large retailers — including Wal-Mart (WMT, Fortune 500), the world’s biggest — are wrestling with having too many types of brand-name products. At the same time, shoppers are buying less and looking for bargains.
So unless a particular brand is a top seller in its category, it’s getting knocked off the shelf — and sometimes getting replaced by a cheaper store brand.
For example, Wal-Mart recently removed Glad and Hefty-branded storage bags from shelves, replacing them with its own lower-priced Great Value brand, according to the parent companies of both products.
“For example, Wal-Mart recently removed Glad and Hefty-branded storage bags from shelves, replacing them with its own lower-priced Great Value brand, according to the parent companies of both products.”
Sounds like Walmart is cutting out the middleman and buying directly from a cheaper supplier - China
All Roads Lead to Goldman Sachs.
Tuesday, 16 February 2010 Source: GoldSeek.com
By: Rob Kirby
Once upon a time, Goldman Sachs shunned publicity. During the period from 1930 to 1969, Sydney Weinberg ran Goldman Sachs where he developed a staunch corporate cultural aversion to publicity. During the 1970s, a tandem of John Weinberg and John Whitehead assumed the reigns of leadership at Goldman Sachs. Whitehead left the company in 1984 to enter public life. John Weinberg carried on in the same vein as his father Sydney – shunning publicity – to the point where he hired a man to keep his name and his firm’s out of the press. He kept him off the full-time payroll (though he sat full-time at a desk in head office) so that if, improbably, a comment did slip out, it could be honestly dismissed as not coming from a Goldman Sachs employee.
John Weinberg served as sole senior partner and chairman until 1990. His mantra was to put the client’s interests first and he wouldn’t allow Goldman to be involved hostile takeovers.
The culture at Goldman Sachs dramatically changed in 1990 when operational control of the firm was ceded to Robert Rubin and Stephen Friedman. This tandem became the Co-Senior Partners in 1990 and re focused the firm on globalization and strengthening the Merger & Acquisition and Trading business lines.
I kind of like this:
http://tinyurl.com/ybp6shp
Maybe it’s the Scotts-Irish in me, but it applies to Wall Street, too.
It’s too late to apologize…
Chinese seen as potential Alaska gas customer.
Associated Press 2010-02-15
Alaska officials are looking to China and what some believe will be that country’s strong demand for natural gas to help the state advance its long-held pipeline dreams.
Gov. Sean Parnell has invited an official with China’s National Energy Administration and others to visit Alaska, following up on a trade mission Lt. Gov. Craig Campbell helped lead to China in December.
Campbell returned from that trip believing the rapidly developing communist nation, already a leading export market for such Alaska products as seafood, zinc and lead ore, could also become a major investor in or export market for Alaska natural gas or its byproducts.
The potential for Alaska is huge, said Harold Heinze, chief executive of the Alaska Natural Gas Development Authority, who was with Campbell on the trip. He sees several possibilities for the Chinese, from building a plant to convert ethane to pellets that would be used in manufacturing to signing on with a major natural gas pipeline project. Ethane is a component for plastics that he says is found in the Prudhoe Bay region.
Brace Yourself for a Decade of Higher Taxes, FT Columnist Says
Feb 16, 2010 by Heesun Wee in Investing, Recession, Banking, Politics.
European finance ministers Tuesday gave Greece a month to show it’s making budget cuts to stop its debt crisis from spreading to other nations. A potentially larger debt crisis, however, is brewing at home.
States and local governments including California face massive budget shortfalls. President Obama has told California not to expect a bailout. But our guest, Dan McCrum, Lex columnist at the Financial Times, says it’s only a matter of time. “This year we’re starting to see some big budget shortfalls. And ultimately they’re going to go cap in hand to Washington,” McCrum says.
Bailout hazards. Expect fireworks, when states ask Washington for financial rescues. If Washington says no to municipalities after saying yes to Wall Street and big banks, “that’s going to play very difficult politically,” McCrum says.
Higher taxes. In fact, local governments have been raising debt in the municipal bond market — roughly 10X Greece’s debt market — for decades. But with the recession battering tax receipts and the federal stimulus waning, higher local taxes now are inevitable.
“The taxpayer is going to have to dip his hand in his pocket quite deep for the next 10 years
The Financial Times
The eurozone: Athenian arrangers
By Kerin Hope, Megan Murphy and Gillian Tett
Published: February 16 2010 19:59 | Last updated: February 16 2010 19:59
A few weeks ago, a distinctive delegation was spotted in the financial quarter of Athens: bankers from Goldman Sachs were escorting a high-powered team from the investment group run by John Paulson, the American hedge fund guru, around meetings with Greek officials and analysts.
Investment banks such as Goldman frequently accompany asset management clients on fact-finding trips – and hedge funds such as the Paulson group, which has made huge profits betting on troubled assets in the past two years, are considered an important catch. But in the febrile climate that currently surrounds Athens, the meetings generated wild rumours in several European capitals.
“A lot of people are wondering what they were doing there – the timing, perception of this was unfortunate,” says the chairman of a large European bank.
As the crisis around Greece’s public finances has deepened in recent weeks, Greek and other European officials have been expressing growing unease – if not outright anger – about the role played by western investment banks and hedge funds.
That is partly because of the manner in which hedge funds and others are perceived to be betting against the euro in general, and the debt of economically “peripheral” countries such as Greece in particular, by using derivative instruments such as credit default swaps. But it also stems from the role that Wall Street titans such as Goldman have played in helping Greece and other eurozone countries to massage their debt data over the past decade to meet European limits – and thus to mask some of the fiscal woes that have now come back to haunt international markets.
Greece is hardly alone in having managed to flatter its national accounts by employing the services of big investment banks. Numerous other state entities across Europe have engaged in derivatives deals with similar intentions – and sometimes using the most exotic of revenue streams, writes Gillian Tett.
In Italy, regional authorities including Liguria and Puglia have put their so-called “sinking funds” to creative use. With the help of banks such as Nomura or UBS, they have invested these pools of money – into which they are required by law to set aside funds to pay off bonds – in credit derivatives or other assets in recent years. By using the entire future putative value of their sinking fund, they could flatter their books by bringing forward expected future gains.
But perhaps the biggest arena for such accounting-driven transactions lies in securitisation – using the revenues from state assets to back bonds that are sold to new investors. This allows governments to enjoy the benefits of future cash flows up-front while deferring until later the recognition of liabilities.
If the bonds are “ring-fenced” from the state budget – meaning bond investors have direct recourse to the assets and cash flow – these deals were often considered to be partly off-balance sheet. Activity has dropped, though, since Eurostat, the European statistical office, tightened its rules in 2002 and again in 2005.
Italy has been one of the most enthusiastic securitisers of state property. It has also sought on occasion to securitise social security receipts, medical payments and even lottery tickets – using banks including UBS and the former Lehman Brothers.
The approach has not been confined to Mediterranean countries. Belgium has even made an effort to securitise the process of tax collection. In this structure, bonds are issued backed by the future collection of unpaid taxes, which means investors bet on whether the tax inspectors do their job.
Many bankers insist these deals have tangible value that extends well beyond any accounting games. After all, they point out, the investors who buy these securitised bonds, and the agencies that rate them, have a motive to impose real scrutiny on the performance of the underlying assets or programmes. When it comes to the performance of Belgian tax teams, say, investor scrutiny might provide better oversight than anything bureaucrats could achieve.
The one thing that is apparent, however, is that many European countries have been living on borrowed time, in the sense of recording cash flows up-front – but sometimes hoping that future liabilities magically disappear.
It is a tale that in some respects echoes the furore surrounding the subprime mortgage crisis in the US in 2007 – where big investment banks were blamed for ramping up systemic financial risk by packaging and selling on high-risk mortgage loans to investors.
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Beware of geeks bearing grifts.
“…enjoy the benefits of future cash flows up-front while deferring until later the recognition of liabilities…”
Ponzi pleasure today; collapsed bubble pain tomorrow…
Greetings from Indiana! (Carmel, Indiana, to be exact.) I’ll try to get a Bubble Report for you after I have a look around.
(Spent last week in Vienna, Austria. They didn’t seem to be too bubbly there….)
Not only do they have no bubble in Vienna, but they have real palaces there (as opposed to Garage Mahals).
And I’ll bet the waltzes were really good.
Though when I took the tour of the Parliament and the guide was telling us about the damage it sustained during the war, I thought to myself: “Good!”
GM UAW open probe into Toyota recalls
February 16, 2010 7:33 PM ET
All Thomson Reuters news WASHINGTON/DETROIT (Reuters) - U.S. regulators on Tuesday opened an investigation into whether Toyota Motor Corp acted in a timely way to recall cars for acceleration problems, and the automaker moved to slow its U.S. production to avoid a costly ballooning of inventories.
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said it had requested production data, consumer complaints and other documents expected to shed light on how and when Toyota learned of problems affecting about 6 million vehicles it has recalled in the United States.
CitiMortgage’s pitch to delinquent borrowers: Give us the keys and you can stay free for six months
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 5:46 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 16, 2010
With rising numbers of Floridians defaulting on their home loans, CitiMortgage is now allowing some owners to stay in their homes six months for free in exchange for handing over the keys.
The program, which began Friday and is being tested in five other states, cancels the borrower’s debt while awarding them at least $1,000 to cover relocation costs.
For the bank, the benefit is avoiding foreclosure expenses and lengthy court cases.
But the advantage for the borrower is less clear.
With backlogged courts and overwhelmed lenders, people facing a foreclosure in Florida are already staying in their homes for free for a year or longer. Plus, the black mark on a borrower’s credit will be basically the same under the new program as if the home was foreclosed on.
CitiMortgage’s report to credit agencies will show that a deed was received in lieu of foreclosure on a defaulted mortgage. But it will also note that the payment on the home loan was less than the amount owed — a ding that can significantly lower a credit score.
“The fact that the loan became seriously delinquent is highly predictive of future risk, statistically, regardless of how that delinquency is ultimately resolved,” said Craig Watts, a spokesman for FICO, the leading credit scoring company.
CitiMortgage, a unit of Citigroup Inc., created the new program, in part, because loan default rates are still high despite the $75 billion Making Home Affordable loan modification program. A Treasury Department progress report on the federal program is expected today. Through December, 66,465 permanent modifications had been awarded nationally. Of those 8,405 of the loans were in Florida.
“We’re committed to finding every solution possible to help families facing foreclosure,” said Sanjiv Das, CEO of CitiMortgage. “Not every homeowner has the financial stability to remain in their home.”
In Florida, 12 percent of CitiMortgage loans were 90 or more days delinquent in the third quarter of last year, compared to 6 percent nationwide.
As measured in the fall, about 42 percent of modified CitiMortgage loans in Florida were 60 or more days late on payments after a year of being modified. Nationally, 39 percent of modified loans were in the same situation.
Fort Lauderdale real estate attorney Shari Olefson said the idea of letting people stay in their homes for six months for free is a good one, but won’t solve the nation’s foreclosure crisis. “The reality in Florida is you can sit still in your house and not pay your mortgage and be there for much longer than six months,” she said.
Ramona Barbagallo, president elect of the Florida Association of Mortgage Brokers Palm Beach chapter, said the CitiMortgage program may foster an “alliance” with the borrower so the person is less likely to strip their house before the foreclosure.
The program requires the homeowner to maintain the property.
“It’s weird times,” Barbagallo said about the state of the housing market and mortgage dilemma in general. “I’ve never seen anything like this in my life.”
How much will these healthcare rate increases speed up the defaults on mortgages and credit cards?
Anyone see the 39% increase Anthem of California is asking for? Is 30% increasse (with less coverage and higher deductibles) the new normal?
Wow!!! I mean, how many people can keep paying that without noticing, or without making a radical shift in their spending priorities? Anybody that is self-employed is screwed.
As if employers needed another reason NOT to hire. what are the ramifications of all this? Those posters who would require US citizenship before getting ER services might see J6pack getting that treatment after he lets his insurance lapse.
The Greeks might be unemployed and taxed at 85%, but they won’t be consulting WebMD trying to figure out how to take out an appendix at home.
Wow!!! I mean, how many people can keep paying that without noticing, or without making a radical shift in their spending priorities? Anybody that is self-employed is screwed.
I was just shopping for medical insurance this evening. For me, a single, 31 year old male, my premiums would be roughly $185/month. That’s for $1500 deductible, $25 office visits, 20% copay.
An extra $55 a month wouldn’t kill me. In fact I don’t think I’d notice it at all.
I know that others’ situations are different - having a family, being older, etc. But if an increase in insurance premiums pushes you over the edge, you likely weren’t going to make it anyhow.
Just for kicks I got a family policy quote from Anthem: $1400 per month.
The North County Times
HOUSING: Defaults down, foreclosures up statewide
By ERIC WOLFF - ewolff@nctimes.com | Posted: February 16, 2010 6:47
Notices of mortgage default in California fell to 25,737 in January, a 36.6 percent drop compared to the previous year, though 17,610 homes were sold at auction, up 14 percent from last January, real estate data specialists ForeclosureRadar said Tuesday.
In North San Diego County, banks notified 655 borrowers that they were 90 or more days late in paying their mortgages, down 44 percent from last January, and 91 properties were sold at auction, a 76 percent drop.
Southwest Riverside County saw similar declines, with notices of default down 36 percent from the previous year to 756, while 136 homes were sold in foreclosure auctions, a 77 percent drop from the previous January.
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I personally find the news that foreclosures are falling against the backdrop of an ongoing near-depression rather puzzling. Are the banks all anticipating green shoots, and hence extending forbearance until the recovery happens?
Why does fiscal balance even matter when there is a printing press technology ever available?
The Fed
Feb. 16, 2010, 3:32 p.m. EST
U.S. risks crisis without fiscal action: Hoenig
Kansas City Fed chief calls for pre-emptive strike on tax, spending policy
By Robert Schroeder, MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — U.S. fiscal policy is on an “unsustainable course” and the government must adjust its tax and spending programs or risk a crisis, Kansas City Federal Reserve Bank President Thomas Hoenig said Tuesday.
“The U.S. government must make adjustments in its spending and tax programs,” Hoenig said in remarks prepared for delivery at a conference about the budget.
“It is that simple. If pre-emptive corrective action is not taken regarding the fiscal outlook, then the United States risks precipitating its own next crisis,” said Hoenig. Read Hoenig’s speech.
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Hoenig also said the current outlook for fiscal policy poses a threat to the Fed’s ability to achieve price stability and long-term growth.
It’s therefore a threat to the Fed’s independence, Hoenig said.
“In time, significant and permanent fiscal reforms must occur in the United States,” said Hoenig. “I much prefer this be done well before anyone feels an irresistible impulse to knock on this central bank’s door.”
A government faced with rising debt levels must come up with a credible long-term plan to reestablish fiscal balance, Hoenig said.
That plan must be seen as fair, said Hoenig, and those who put it in place must be wiling to disappoint special interests.
“It means, for example, controlling budget earmarks, trimming subsidies to numerous economic sectors, and resolving our banking problems and the perception that Wall Street is favored over Main Street, all of which would otherwise foster mistrust and cynicism among the public,” said Hoenig.
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Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — Higher yields on Treasury securities are “the most likely catalyst” for U.S. stocks to end more than a decade of price swings and move higher, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch.
The CHART OF THE DAY compares the performance of the Standard & Poor’s composite stock-price index with the 10-year Treasury note’s yield since 1900, according to data compiled by Yale University Professor Robert Shiller.
Merrill’s research investment committee included a similar chart, using the Dow Jones Industrial Average as a benchmark for share prices, in a Feb. 9 report. Michael Hartnett, chief global equity strategist, and Joseph Zidle, global wealth management investment strategist, lead the panel.
The 10-year yield climbed last week to 3.70 percent, its first weekly advance this year, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Last year, the yield fell below 3 percent.
Treasury yields reached “an inflection point,” where they either hit bottom or topped out, before every so-called secular bull market in U.S. stocks since 1900, Merrill wrote. The chart displays those points, as defined by the committee. Secular rallies usually last more than five years and may be punctuated by shorter bear markets.
“U.S. equity markets have been in a big, fat trading range for the past 13 years,” the report said. Rising government-bond yields may help break out of that range, the committee wrote, especially if investors anticipate faster economic growth, renewed inflation and a recovery in bank lending
You have to be kidding me?
Previously rising bond rates were due to the gov attempting to slow the economy. Rising bond rates now are due to less demand for treasuries at a time when the gov is trying to borrow more. This is supposed to be a good sign for stocks?
Also, rising government rates put upward pressure on corporate rates.
Because of their safety, government borrowing gets go to the head of the line. After the government borrows all it needs what’s left is bid on by corporations.
If there’s a lot of money left to borrow after the government get its share then the interest rates the corps have to pay is low. If the amount of money left to borrow is little then corps have to pay higher rates. If the amount of money is low enough then some corps may have to go without, which may mean bankruptcy.
Today everybody seems to need to borrow - governments, corporations, individuals. But there’s not enough money to go around.
Former Fannie Mae CEO on CNBC is singing the hbb song:
(Paraphrased)
-We shouldn’t celebrate upward housing starts. We first need to absorb the current inventory, get employment numbers back up and then resume building.
-We should return to 20% downpayments.
-The modifications are only kicking the can down the road.
-Foreclosed homes are not being maintained accelerating the downward value.
Ah, now we’re into the public reaction to buckling down reform, the Achilles heel of gov types that know the truth.