Feasting On Prime Rib; Now There’s Only Hamburger
The Pittsburg Tribune Review reports from Pennsylvania. “Millions of America’s homes are sliding ‘under water,’ meaning their value has fallen beneath the mortgage owed, data shows. And surfacing is a homeowner response long deemed unthinkable: Financially strapped people are simply walking away from their homes. ‘We are seeing an increase in walk-aways,’ said Ben Hess, an expert on foreclosures and distressed home sales for Coldwell Banker Real Estate Services, McCandless. ‘In our market, this just started showing up last quarter. I don’t know that anybody even heard the term, strategic default before last summer.’”
“Timothy and Kimberly Bozzo bought two homes in Sharpsburg about nine years ago with mortgage money from PNC, say court records. The couple rented out the properties until a flood in 2004 rendered them uninhabitable, and the Bozzos lacked the money for repairs, said their attorney Stephen Barsotti. They declared bankruptcy in April 2007, and deeded the properties back to PNC last Sept. 22, he said, because they couldn’t sell the properties for enough to pay off the mortgages.”
“But PNC claims in a lawsuit against the couple it never agreed to take back the property and that the Bozzos just walked away. ‘They just wanted to get rid of the debt and move on,’ said Barsotti of the Bozzos, who declined comment.”
The Philadelphia Inquirer. “It could have been a textbook transaction: A house is purchased. Over time, it increases in value enough to exceed the $279,000 balance on the mortgage. The first offer to buy the property covers the loan, the real estate commission, and closing costs. Instead, after more than two years wrangling with the lender about a prepayment penalty - a dispute over $7,000 that resulted in 10 offers to buy going nowhere - the homeowner throws in the towel and deeds the house to the bank in lieu of foreclosure.”
“This is what happened to Kay Henson. In early 2007, amid a divorce, she decided she couldn’t afford the $2,000 monthly payment on the house she and her now-former husband had bought in Townsend, Del., in 2003. The only recourse was selling it. On the day of closing in June 2007, her agent told her that Chase now was saying there was a prepayment penalty of $7,000, boosting the payoff to $286,000. It could have been any amount, Henson couldn’t afford it, and the sale was canceled. ‘I was in shock,’ she said. ‘I had nothing left, there was nothing I could do.’”
“Over the next 30 months, Henson tried to get Chase, first on her real estate agent’s advice, to negotiate a deal. No dice. In August, another Chase rep told Henson that…no one knew the name of her new agent. She had had enough. ‘I told them that day to go ahead and foreclose on my house,’ Henson said. ‘I couldn’t keep worrying anymore. I did all that I could.’”
The Daily Record in New Jersey. “Five high-profile apartment properties managed by the city-based Connolly Properties Inc. are anticipated to be sold at an open auction scheduled for next month in Middlesex County. ‘They’re being offered regardless of price and are guaranteed to be sold to the highest bidder,’ Sheldon Good Senior Managing Director Jeff Hubbard said. ‘The beauty of this kind of sale process is that the buyer gets to determine the price.’”
The Press of Atlantic City in New Jersey. “Donald Trump portrayed Carl Icahn as a penny-pinching corporate raider whose ownership of the Trump casinos would be ‘a mess’ if he gains control of them in a bankruptcy battle between the two billionaires. This is the third time that Trump Plaza, Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort and Trump Marina Hotel Casino have been in bankruptcy since the early 1990s. Trump acknowledged that his namesake casinos have struggled, but he said they are no different than other gaming halls that have suffered in the sluggish economy. Expressing confidence in Atlantic City’s future, he predicted the Trump casinos will rebound under the bondholders’ ownership once the economy recovers.”
“‘I want to see this company succeed,’ he said. ‘That is very important to me because it has my name on it.’”
The Daily Press. “For Scot Wiegner, the easy part of moving to Hampton Roads was selling his house in Connecticut. Twice he made offers that were refused. The owners weren’t willing to budge on sales price, Wiegner said. The family finally found what they were looking for in the Stonehouse neighborhood in Toano and moved in this month. Wiegner moves every two to three years because of his job. This move has been the most challenging, he said, thanks to the sour real estate market.”
“‘I thought moving this far south, I would see somewhat of a difference of price, and I saw none,’ he said.”
“Buyers coming into the market are looking for a discount to make up for value they lost selling their homes. But while Hampton Roads has seen prices fall and foreclosures increase, it hasn’t occurred here at levels experienced elsewhere, said Kathy Chambers, president of the Williamsburg Area Association of Realtors. ‘They’re coming to us with fresh wounds,’ she said.”
The Day in Connecticut. “In time, Jan. 7, 2010, might prove to be a seminal date in the history of Waterford - the end of the Millstone era. On that day, town officials learned that health insurance costs had ballooned by $1.5 million, throwing the calculation of the already tight 2010-11 budget into disarray. Superintendent of Schools Randall Collins announced the news to the Board of Education in ominous tones that night.”
“‘This will take you to places you have not been,’ Collins said.”
“‘We’re now in the same situation as every other town in southeastern Connecticut,’ said John Sheehan, a Board of Finance member. Finance board member George Peteros admonishes that ‘dark days’ are ahead. ‘The day of reckoning is here,’ Peteros said. ‘Too long (town departments) have been feasting on prime rib; now there’s only hamburger.’”
The Hartford Courant in Connecticut. “A sobering report showed that the number of residential borrowers struggling to make mortgage payments is higher than at any other time in the past 30 years. Foreclosures and seriously delinquent home loans in Connecticut jumped more than a full percentage point to 8.1 percent in the last three months of 2009, compared with the previous quarter, according to the report from the Mortgage Bankers Association.”
“That set a record high in Connecticut for the eighth consecutive quarter, according to the association. Housing counselors in the Hartford area said that they have seen little evidence of a let-up in borrowers falling behind, a growing number from white-collar, professional households with fixed-rate mortgages. ‘We don’t see any slowing in sight,’ said Penny Trick, a foreclosure specialist at the Housing Education Resource Center in Hartford. ‘Every time I hear bad economic news, I say, ‘I know my job is safe.’”
“For 10 years, Paul and Nicole Mozeleski of Vernon had no problem paying the mortgage on their modest, three-bedroom cape. Paul Mozeleski was self-employed, working as a subcontractor transporting documents for banks. His wife worked in the billing department of Hartford Hospital. The couple took out a second mortgage to renovate their kitchen. Still, their monthly payment — including escrow for taxes and insurance — was a manageable $1,400 a month.”
“Then last year, Paul Mozeleski lost the contract, and he was forced to take a maintenance job for less than half of what he was making. The couple quickly fell behind in their payments. ‘Money is always a problem when you don’t have it,’ Paul Mozeleski said.”
The Buffalo News in New York. “The popular notion that Buffalo weathered the mortgage meltdown better than most cities is attracting the attention of federal prosecutors who don’t buy it. The government, convinced that the fraud and foreclosure problem here is worse than expected, has formed a Mortgage Fraud Task Force to uncover civil and criminal wrongdoing among brokers, lenders and buyers.”
“‘It’s a much larger problem than first forecast,’ U.S. Attorney Kathleen M. Mehltretter said of mortgage foreclosures here.”
“High on the list of potential targets are mortgage brokers, many now out of business, who lured unsuspecting consumers into high-interest mortgages. The fraud in those cases often involves inflated appraisals. Kathleen Lynch, a lawyer with the Western New York Law Center, said the number of Erie County mortgages entering foreclosure — between 2,000 and 3,000 a year since 2006 — may seem small when compared with other areas of the country, but not when you compare it with the smaller population here.”
“One of the neighborhoods hardest hit by subprime-fueled foreclosures is the Kensington-Bailey area. A separate 2008 study by the Empire Justice Center found a large number of subprime loans in distress in that neighborhood, one of Buffalo’s strongest African-American communities. To understand the subprime market’s impact on Buffalo’s neighborhoods, the center isolated a single street, Stockbridge Avenue. The four-block street was home to 16 foreclosure filings.”
“‘There’s a high, high amount of predatory lending going on in that neighborhood,’ said University Council Member Bonnie Russell. ‘That whole area needs a crackdown.’”
The New York Post. “The little-known law firm of Steven J. Baum PC, which is based in suburban Buffalo, NY, and represents dozens of banks in matters of failed mortgages, last year filed a staggering 12,551 foreclosure lawsuits in New York City and the suburbs, which works out to about 48 a day. The foreclosure mill is one of a handful of super-regional law firms used by the country’s banks — and its lawyers appear to have practiced in every county courthouse and bankruptcy court from Staten Island to Plattsburgh and from Montauk to Niagara Falls.”
“The problems involving Baum and others highlight the increasingly nasty foreclosure problem in the US after banks started the profitable (for them) system of securitizing mortgages and then slicing and dicing pieces of the loans and selling them around the world. Little attention was paid to having an easy-to-use system tracking mortgage ownership.”
“Now, as foreclosure actions clog the country’s courts, some lawyers are fighting back and asking bank lawyers or mortgage servicers to provide proof they own the mortgage. In most instances, it can’t be done. ‘In 85 percent of the cases I handle, the paperwork submitted by the bank or mortgage service company is not in order,’ said Linda Tirelli, a consumer bankruptcy lawyer based in White Plains and Stamford, CT. For example, she said, one mortgage servicer recently filed paperwork to prove it owned a mortgage and it said it was assigned ownership by Lehman Brothers in October 2009.”
“‘Now everyone knows there was no Lehman last October,’ Tirelli said.”
“Most of Baum’s 5,312 cases in NYC last year were fought against no legal opponent. Usually, delinquent homeowners can’t afford to hire lawyers. The result is a slam-dunk win for Baum — and the foreclosure of another house.”
The Palm Beach Daily News. “It’s been six years since The Corcoran Group made its dramatic entrance from New York City onto the Palm Beach real estate stage, instantly acquiring local cachet by acquiring successful broker Paulette Koch’s namesake agency here in late 2003 and, shortly thereafter, purchasing McCann, Coyner & Clarke.”
“For the next five years, as the nation’s real estate bubble over-inflated, Corcoran enjoyed heady success. And so did Pamela Liebman, once the protege of the legendary Barbara Corcoran, who left the Manhattan-based agency after selling it to the massive NRT Inc. in 2001. The year before, Liebman had become Corcoran’s president and CEO, the position she still holds today, overseeing 2,300 employees and a company with sales totaling $10 billion last year.”
“But by the end of 2008 and the first months of 2009, high-end real estate in all three of Corcoran’s markets had sputtered to practically a halt, as the recession took hold.”
“Liebman last week traveled to South Florida from New York to host a reception for Corcoran agents at a home in Gulf Stream listed for sale by the agency. Before that event, she talked with the Palm Beach Daily News about the state of the company’s real estate markets, which appear to be picking up steam.”
“Q. What’s your take on the state of Corcoran’s markets? A . Toward the end of the year, when the stock market was showing a lot of life, people who had so much fear at the beginning of the year sort of lost that fear and began to get to a place where they said: ‘It’s going to be OK. My family’s going to be OK. I’m not going to lose my job. I want to live again.’”
“People reset their expectations. I think for a long time in all of our markets, whether it was Palm Beach or The Hamptons or New York City, there was a lot of talk about people wanting luxury and ‘the biggest’ and ‘the best’ — the biggest apartment, the best views, the most oceanfront. It was all about the splashy — there was no subtlety involved. And what we’ve seen has been a shift back to what homes are all about — an enjoyable place to live. People are buying properties again for themselves to enjoy, not to make a statement about their life and how much money they have. And that’s a good thing…A big part of everything starting to move again is realistic expectations on the part of buyers and sellers.”
“Q. How exactly does that process begin? A. The buyers get more realistic, and the sellers decide that they do want to sell, that they’re going to be a little more negotiable. And we put the deals together. The reality is that everyone knows the prices have come down — they’ve come down, and that’s just a fact.”
“Q. But in your higher-end markets, getting buyers and sellers on the same page can be tough, can’t it? A. One of the first things we did with our brokers was to educate them about how to educate their buyers and sellers. We had to teach the buyers that the sky was not falling, that — contrary to what some people and some media pundits were saying — houses were not going to be selling for 25 cents on the dollar. There’s intrinsic value in all of these homes, especially in this very special area.”
“Sellers can be unrealistic even in the best of markets, but they sometimes don’t get hit as badly, because with a rising market, the prices can catch up to their hopes and unrealistic pricing. But in a market that’s flat or sinking, that seller just gets further and further away from where a trade is likely to happen. So it becomes even more difficult to adjust the price, because you have to go so far down. And they ask themselves: ‘Do I even have to sell? I don’t care if I sell, but I’ll leave my price here.’ And that just adds to the extra inventory on the market.”
“Q. So what’s the real estate outlook for the coming year? A. I don’t think we’re going to see huge (dollar-volume) increases in 2010, but we’re going to see the number of transactions move up this year. A lot of it depends on the sellers and how discretionary they want to be. At the end of the day, it’s the sellers who remain in control.”
Welcome to March and enjoy your coffee. In the thirties, foggy, damp and miserable. Smiling.
Good morning Rancher.
Just finished my cup of coffee. High fog here. Low 60s. I just love it.
Going to be nice day…Mid 60’s…
Nothing better than being in SF during the summer
and having to wear a sweater and a wind breaker
to prevent hypothermia. Ah, the good old days,
sitting on the porch in Belvedere watching all the
drunks on Opening Day.
Rained for a good bit of yesterday here in Tucson. So, I went down to the good ole community radio station, KXCI, and helped with the pledge drive. (It’s off to a great start!) It’s sunny today. Temp’s supposed to get into the 70s later in the week.
Slim, would you save a chair by the pool?
Save + me a ….
Being a longtime Arizonan, I won’t go into a pool today. Why not? Too cold? Gimme 90 degrees, at least. Then it’s warm enough.
Medical note: Less than a year after I moved here, I was in a doctor’s office (on an unrelated matter). The doctor warned me to be very diligent about staying warm in the winter here, and when I go up north.
Why? Because dealing with AZ warm weather causes the blood to thin, which makes us more vulnerable to the cold. That’s why you see Arizonans dressed so warmly at this time of the year.
Bright blue skies and high of 58 here in Boise. Some wind which makes it seem cooler.
It’s a great day in Rio de Janeiro. 76 degrees and drizzling. The hottest Summer in 50 years (so I’m told) is really over I hope.
But I love it. I can even wear my “heavy weight” American t-shirts again.
Coffee’s brewing in the kitchen, sunny outside and fifty-something (temperature- and age-wise), frowning but content.
There has never been a better time to rent in San Diego.
“But PNC claims in a lawsuit against the couple it never agreed to take back the property and that the Bozzos just walked away. ‘They just wanted to get rid of the debt and move on,’ said Barsotti of the Bozzos, who declined comment.”
I thought home insurance was a must on financed homes?
There two sides of the story of course, however the walk away trend is growing. No amount of gubmint props can ‘fix’ that, short of paying off everyone’s debt. Once again, if the D.C. crowd had taken a hands off approached and let the system flush itself, we could put the mess behind us. Instead the PTB continue the make a bad situation worse.
Sharpsburg was hit pretty hard by the remnants of Hurricane Ivan in 2004. I’m pretty sure that’s the flooding they mentioned. I’m guessing the Bozos didn’t have flood insurance and their homeowners insurance policy didn’t cover it.
I looked at a map and found that Sharpsburg is right on the river upstream from Pittsburg. Did the river back up due to that hurricane? I see a “lock and dam” right there too.
Most mortgages only require fire policies. They didn’t ask for flood insurance for either of my two houses: neither did they ask for earthquake insurance for my San Jose house.
http://www.mrsmalls.com/HTML/flood.htm
That link is all photos of Millvale which is a couple of miles SW of Sharpsburg.
Currently most of the region has 30+” of snow on the ground and if there is a sudden melt….guess what’s gonna happen agin.
The first of millions of Bozzos going BK.
Oh, the humanity!
“But PNC claims in a lawsuit against the couple it never agreed to take back the property and that the Bozzos just walked away. ‘They just wanted to get rid of the debt and move on,’ said Barsotti of the Bozzos, who declined comment.”
I don’t think “no recourse” (i.e., the ability to mail the keys back) applies to non owner-occupied investor property, in any state or under any mortgage agreements.
These people aren’t Bozzos, they’re crooks and cheats!
“These people aren’t Bozzos, they’re crooks and cheats!”
Which only shows “Strategic Decision-makers” come in a stripes and colors.
We can’t call them ‘RETARDS’ anymore. I guess bozos, cheats and crooks. Reminds me of Obama’s health fiasco.
The ONLY solution in America is pain…
Some people and corporations are so stupid and greedy that a really good “Ouch, Ouch, Owie” is the only thing that will teach them a freakin’ thing.
Bring on the PAIN !
(hold off on the bandaids and let them bleed profusely)
“I thought home insurance was a must on financed homes?”
This brings up an interesting question, who is paying the house insurance and fire insurance when the house owner stops making payments? Why pay the insurance? Who pays the insurance when the bank takes the property back. In the 50’s in SD apartment owners were begging for renters to lower the fire insurance.
Try getting insurance on an empty house, the
brokers will laugh you out of their office.
When we sold the ranch, we HAD to have someone
living there to get insurance so let a friend of ours
who was going through a nasty divorce stay there
for free just to house sit so we could have coverage.
“We had to teach the buyers that the sky was not falling, that…houses were not going to be selling for 25 cents on the dollar. There’s intrinsic value in all of these homes, especially in this very special area.”
Yes, the usual “our area is different”.
Delusional.
“We had to teach the buyers that the sky was not falling”
“teach” you usually hear or read the word “educate” as in “We need to educate the public” What they mean is we want them to think like us.
Exactly. “We need to educate the public” is usually a euphemism for “we need to disseminate propaganda”.
More agent hyperbole. Of course the sky is not falling, on the same token these one trick ponies think buying a house is the answer to all life’s problems.
They want the decision to buy to occur in a vacuum, far removed from any other macro considerations such as: state/local gov’t finances and policies, continued globalization, stagnant real wages, healthcare/elder care issues, rising fuel/utility costs, soaring insurance costs, etc. etc. etc.
“just buy a house and you’ll make the world go away”
I’ve seen houses that have been on the market in Central Florida for three years….surrounded by other houses that have also been on the market for several years.
A little mold, etc, and these houses are easily worth $0.
25 cents on the dollar may be wishful thinking.
She had had enough. ‘I told them that day to go ahead and foreclose on my house,’ Henson said. ‘I couldn’t keep worrying anymore. I did all that I could.’
Big bureaucracies have always been able to use their ability to make things take a long time to their advantage. It’ll be funny if that turns out to no longer be an advantage.
I am wondering about the risk that the spreading word about banks not bothering or evening being able to foreclose on many households who have stopped making mortgage payments might tempt far more struggling households to follow suit? Why play by the rules when other American households are “saving” or even “consuming” away a fortune in foregone mortgage payments?
“I don’t know that anybody even heard the term, strategic default before last summer.’”
Jingle mail, anyone?
Corporations have been strategically defaulting for decades, usually to stick it to union contracts.* In the individual market, o no, that would be “shameful.” No more! Main Street is learning to bring a gun to a gunfight, and the banks don’t like it one bit.
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*Flame the unions if you want, but those companies signed onto the union contracts. Contract law blah blah blah…
The Bamster and the union owners of the car companioes stuck it to the teacher’s pension fund in Indiana. Hope the teachers win from the Supremes. Three loosers in this cat fight!!!
Been thinking a lot about this whole business of ’strategic default’ versus the alternative of living rent-free in a home you supposedly own for an indefinite though indeterminate period of time.
Would a bank treat a new buyer who purchased a home and immediately stopped making payments differently than they treat owners of several years’ record? I am not personally considering this option, but I am highly curious about the collective impact of perverse incentives on Main Street households’ choices. So long as the rules are written or at least administered to benefit cheaters and punish those who play by the rules, I expect increasing levels of lying, cheating and conniving by households trying to financially survive over the foreseeable future.
The people are finally starting to learn, it’s been 20-30 years since the era of corporate irresponsibility really started ramping up, and, just now, the people are finally starting to follow suit. I like what was said above, the people are finally starting to bring a gun to the gun fight. Before they were just cannon fodder for the banks, now at least they are putting up a bit of a fight.
And my fav thing? “Well, if everyone does this, we’ll have to raise interest rates and then everyone will suffer”. No.. People who need credit will suffer. Those of us who have been saving and buy things for cash?? We will prosper. So, go right ahead Mr Bank, raise interest rates as high as you feel is necessary (or raise down payment amounts, which is probably a better idea anyway) to mitigate your risk. It’s the best thing in the world for those of us who have money and want to buy!
“Toward the end of the year, when the stock market was showing a lot of life, people who had so much fear at the beginning of the year sort of lost that fear and began to get to a place where they said: ‘It’s going to be OK. My family’s going to be OK. I’m not going to lose my job. I want to live again.’”
Mission Accomplished!
“A sobering report showed that the number of residential borrowers struggling to make mortgage payments is higher than at any other time in the past 30 years. Foreclosures and seriously delinquent home loans in Connecticut jumped more than a full percentage point to 8.1 percent in the last three months of 2009, compared with the previous quarter, according to the report from the Mortgage Bankers Association.”
I suspect Hartford, Connecticut, where Mark Twain lived when he wrote about A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court, saw similar financial circumstances in days of yore.
After all, it was Mark Twain who wrote:
“A banker is a fellow who is happy to loan you his umbrella when the sun is shining, but wants it back the moment it begins to rain.”
For good measure, here is a more uplifting Mark Twain quote:
“Twenty years from now, you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.”
And there is this:
“I am said to be a revolutionist in my sympathies, by birth, by breeding and by principle. I am always on the side of the revolutionists, because there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolt.”
Mark Twain would have been a good anti-REIC ally, if only he were alive today.
Clemons was no stranger to debt himself. He was a lousy investor, especially in investment capital. He invested heavily in an automatic typesetting machine which never worked, at the same time as he was writing “Connecticut Yankee.” He went into heavy debt, but he did NOT default. Instead, he did something he hated — he went on the lecture circuit in Europe. It took a couple years, but he paid his debt with the speaking fees.
He was hailed in the US as a man who kept to his word. Of course, I your average J6P probably couldn’t get out of debt in this way. Clemons’s skillz were unique, not something you could outsource to an H1-B.
because there never was a revolution unless there were some oppressive and intolerable conditions against which to revolt.”
I don’t care who said it, I call BS. Revolutions always happen in times of great liberalization, when things are looking up after an era of repression.
Russian revolution didn’t. Quite the opposite, in fact.
“Revolutions always happen in times of great liberalization, when things are looking up after an era of repression”
I might have been “smokin’ in the boys’ room” during History class but isn’t the above sentence in conflict with the circumstances of the American Revolution and the War Between the States?
” A lot of it depends on the sellers and how discretionary they want to be. At the end of the day, it’s the sellers who remain in control.”
Rrrriiiggghhhtttt…sure, yep, it’s the Sellers who remain in control.
I guess walking away puts them in control…or refusing a lowball offer…
“I guess walking away puts them in control…or refusing a lowball offer…”
It does, actually. This type of thinking on the sellers part is what is exactly driving me insane and directly preventing a deal. If our offering is accepted on this one house, I told my wife to not get excited because I fully expect the “owner” to trash the place.
Muggy-
I hope they have more class than that.
Don’t forget to ask the seller (through your agent) for a CLUE report . If there has been a Homeowners Ins. claim in the last 5 years, it could affect your premium. The buyer can’t directly ask for the *Claims Liability Underwriting Exchange report from ChoicePoint. I’m in Ca. I don’t know R E laws in FL.
*National Database
Muggy-
This is why you have the final walk-thru before closing, in case the old “Owners” trash the place
Fer sure have your Agent take you thru if they happen to move out long before the closing (for a Foreclosure or short)
We have a contract on a Short Sale house here (NoVA) w/ Bank of Am. - ready to wait 6 Months to get the deal done
If our “Owners” move out before they “have to” you can bet my butts going to be going thru that house every chance I can drag my Agent over there!!
shelby
The law in California on Short Sales was recently changed, to make them respond in 21 days. Check with your state on their enforcement. Not all Agents are education friendly, or for that matter have a clue.
http://www.wannanetwork.com/2009/10/01/new-california-short-sale-law-just-passed-california-sb-306/
What is the penalty if the lender doesn’t respond in 21 days? I’m curious if this law has any teeth.
Kim,
Good question. Depends on who initiated the law. If it was a consumer based group with the blessing of Jerry Brown, it might just have some teeth. Jerry Brown has turned out to be a really decent Attorney General for California. I’ve grown to really respect the man.
Not all Agents are education friendly
Now that is one of the kindest, mildest, yet extremely eloquent statements about RE folk I’ve seen ’round these parts.
hip in zilker-
lol. I laughed so hard I almost peed in my dress. Then I laughed at that.
Doesn’t who is control depend heavily on the number of buyers versus the number of sellers? This may be an over simplification, but generally speaking, whoever is present in smallest numbers has the market power.
This is why there are laws against collusion (e.g. reducing inventory in order to create artificial shortages and drive up prices above market level). With the overlay of demand stimulus on top of the artificial inventory shortage, the market power has been summarily handed over to sellers, along with artificially inflated sale prices. I don’t expect this to last; either someone will eventually notice that the measures currently underway are patently illegal, and act to remedy the situation, or else the inventory pyre will get so deep that it will have to either be unwound, lest the owners thereof will take a bath on physical depreciation. So far, every bubble in history has resulted in capitulation at the end of the day, and I don’t believe theis one will end any differently; we just are not there yet.
Wiegner moves every two to three years because of his job. This move has been the most challenging, he said, thanks to the sour real estate market.
Why on earth would this guy buy a house if he moves for his job that frequently? Even in good times he’d eat large transaction costs by moving that often.
Silly, to get that 20% pop in appreciation. Oh wait.
Regarding Ben’s caption:
When Paul Newman was asked if he ever looked at, or desired other women, he replied “Why would I want hamburger, when I have prime rib at home.”
And Joanne Woodward was/is indeed a class act. As was the late, great Paul Newman.
AzSlim-
Considering they both had good looks, talent, money, and position in society, they both seem grounded as good human beings. You don’t see a lot of that in Hollywood anymore, let alone on Main St.
On the other hand, Paul Newman was able to redeem himself after screwing up his first marriage and first four children (his only son - from his first marriage - died of an overdose.) Everyday people who don’t have money and fame don’t get a second chance, as he did.
That said, he was a good guy.
REhobbyist-
Hey, thanks for that information on Newman. I didn’t know that. As we say in our house:
“You learn something new every day.”
and
“You forget something new every day”.
Funny you should bring that up!
Yesterday at KXCI, the programming and volunteer coordinator and I were having a chat about the lack of unhappy people around the station. And this is a radio station with more than a few musicians in its midst.
As I’ve mentioned before, most of us on and off air people are volunteers. And some of the volunteers have been doing their KXCI thing for decades.
But you won’t meet a lot of people who are bitter because they didn’t get their Big Break in music or broadcasting, so, instead, they bide their time at Tucson’s community radio station. Nor will you meet staff people who are glomming onto record producers and music promoters in hopes of getting That Grand Opportunity to Become a Star.
Instead, you’ll hear a lot of chatting and joking about being recognized in public places. Like the other staff member who told us about how someone recognized her by voice. In a public restroom, no less. We all got a big laugh out of that one.
Yep, around our station, you’ll just meet a lot of content, centered people. And don’t you go thinking that we’re some sort of cult or something. Heck, we’d make a lousy cult. We can’t even agree on pizza toppings. (Woe to the person who gets to call out for a pizza order.)
And Tiger’s line would be what?
Years ago divorce was the social no,no, and having a child out of wedlock was the family scandal of all time.
In housing code words mean social embarrassment swing loans, refi, short sale,underwater etc. These are only meaningful to the person not affected, but if you are associated with the above then only one thing matters what is best for you and your situation.
Anybody who tells you that public scorn from family and friends should make you feel twice about defaulting on your loan doesn’t walk in your shoes.
Yes, it is devastating but you have to do what you have to do, if you are buried in your home for years to come with only the hope of maybe breaking even or worse then foreclosure may be your only salvation.
Used to be, depending upon your social class, a scandal could ruin you.
In our show all the dirty laundry on day time talk show culture, being dysfunctional seems to have not only lost stigma, but perhaps become a perverse status symbol…
“the sellers who remain in control”. Total and utter nonsense statement.
That was only good during the boom years but for the most part real estate is driven by what the perceived value is of the property.
A home for example in a run down part of town isn’t going to bring anything good or bad times no matter what the seller dreams it to be worth.
People for the most part think they are better looking then the next person, then someone gives them the lowdown that average is pretty much what most people look like.
Homes are the same way, you think you have the cat’s meow then you overprice it and the realization takes place after 6 months that your avg house is just that and you price it accordingly. You the seller have no control you have a belief and that soon turns to reality.
“Bozzos in Sharpsburg”
AHhahaha!!
Paging Dr. Hiassen. Multiple traumas in the improbable name ER!!
Hiaasen. FAIL.
This is really kinda creepy but a RE open house story…
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Man charged in panty raids at real estate open houses
Women’s underwear taken from at least three showings
By STEFANIE SCOTT
Posted: Feb. 23, 2010
“A Hales Corners man has been charged with three misdemeanor counts of theft after police said he attended real estate open houses in the Milwaukee area and stole women’s underwear from the homes. He is expected to appear in court Feb. 25.
According to the Wauwatosa police:
Robert Remiker, 58, attended open houses in the 2300 block of North 62nd Street in Wauwatosa, as well as in Greenfield and Franklin. Realtors and other visitors to the Wauwatosa open house said they saw Remiker opening drawers and taking items. When he was stopped by police officers, they found plastic bags containing eight pairs of underwear and printouts of Internet listings for area open houses.
Remiker told officers he was taking the items because he missed his ex-wife. He said he had about 50 more pairs at the home he lived in with his parents….cont.”
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What the hell? I thought the panties came with the free fresh-baked cookies. If I am expected to make an offer, I want panties first.
‘Money is always a problem when you don’t have it,’ Paul Mozeleski said.”
Not during 2000-2007 my how we forget.
All the thanks goes to British Government who initiated and supported the rescue at the time of ultimate difficulty