March 29, 2010

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Comment by DennisN
2010-03-29 03:06:16

The SF Chron has a story up that breaks down housing price changes by zip code. It’s interesting but not unexpected that less desirable zips went down more than exclusive zips: truly rich people have enough money to ride things out. Struggling FBs in cheaper areas thought they were buying a piece of the action: too bad the “action” they got was not pleasant.


– Prices fell by the biggest percentages in lower-cost, outlying areas. ZIP codes that were affordable by Bay Area standards, in areas like Richmond, Vallejo, Vacaville and Antioch, sold for around $300 a square foot at the peak. Many of those areas are now going for about $120 a square foot. …

– Prices fell the least in higher-cost coastal areas. ZIPs where prices were over $600 a square foot at the peak generally have fallen about 10 percent to 20 percent since then - which makes them success stories compared with the rest of the region and the country. Affluent areas such as San Francisco, Millbrae, Cupertino and Lafayette still had foreclosures, but they accounted for less than 10 percent of properties on the market now, and perhaps 15 percent a year ago. Despite the tightening credit market, especially for higher-cost mortgages, these areas still trade for more than $500 a square foot.

 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-03-29 05:04:03

Same I am seeing in Miami, on the lower end (ie. ghetto) prices went from $250K down to about $50K. The upper end held up much better, from $1 million down to about $700K. For condos the declines were more pronouched than for houses.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-03-29 05:54:05

We’re seeing a similar shake out w/school district’s response to the cut in state funding. The poor city schools are cutting huge numbers of staff. With their security issues I’m thinking this is only creating a more unstable environment. But they have to react to their constituents which were especially hit in the layoffs suffered in the area.

Meanwhile, in our district the school board has been conducting open meetings w/the public to gauge what the taxpayers wanted. What they heard? No cuts, increase taxes. I hold our district in high regard and recognize they have tried to cost cut but what’s going to be happening at some point is an exodus of retirees who can no longer eat and pay bills at the same time. The high income professionals feeling even more desperate these days that their kids need a competitive edge will rush in and fill the void. It will change the make up of the community.

 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 06:11:24

it all makes sense now.

Prices in Hermosa Beach, Manhattan Beach, and the like barely dropped 20% from their peak. Meanwhile the smogbelt of Riverside, San Bernardino and other “inland empire” locations dropped tens of percentage points more from their peak.

Cleaner air at the beach, Mediterranean-like temperatures, bikini scenery, better schools (Manhattan Beach has some of the best in the county) are why prices stay up.

Nearby cities have not lost much either. Torrance is one example. It’s one “berg” over from the ocean and has great year-round temperatures. To the west of me across the street is another huge apartment complex. Just to the west of that houses are in the $700,000 range. A few of them at $1,000,000.

Comment by james
2010-03-29 15:07:51

Mmmm. Lots of friends with kids in MB schools. The kids have all sorts of drug problems. Particularly the artist type kids from the studios.

Only really exclusive are in the south bay is Palos Verdes/the hills.

Everything else is bullsheet hyped up crap.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:11:47

“…truly rich people have enough money to ride things out…”

for longer.

Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 06:37:11

A liberal radio host (Randi something) literally screamed about this years ago. The smart rich are packing away cash, she said. …Of course they know a depression is coming, they’re causing it…so they are preparing to hole up and outlive it…

I don’t disbelieve her. After all, aren’t we doing something similar, only on a smaller scale? (I mean the prep, not causing the depression.)

The little-guy wanna-be rich who were buying yachts, thinking their bonuses would last forever, were the dumb ones.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-03-29 07:29:23

There are several debt yachters at my club who are already falling down. Looks like about six of them cannot afford to launch this year.

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:07:03

Blue Skye…You heading up into Canada again this summer ??

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-03-29 10:08:44

It is quite likely.

 
 
Comment by Lane from s.c.
2010-03-29 08:18:50

The rich are getting hit too. There is not that many rich…2-3% of the population so you are not going to see many go down. This is hitting everyone…well-off, middle class and poor. The smart people in the all the respective classes are going to do better.

Lane

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Comment by james
2010-03-29 11:21:52

Randi Rhodes… Roads?

I listen to her occasionally. Her show is better than Stephanie Miller. Step and her people just make insulting remarks with little discussion.

I think a lot of rich people were getting good advice and packing away money to avoid the mania. A lot of little guys were falling for the get rich quick scheme.

And of course if you were an insider GS banker. You knew which side of TBTF to place you bets.

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Comment by Rental Watch
2010-03-29 17:50:33

In the areas that I am familiar with (mid-Peninsula in Northern CA), there are what I consider the truly wealthy, and those that thought they were on their way to being wealthy. The truly wealthy don’t care about whether their house falls by 5%, or 50%. It simply doesn’t matter.

However, liquidity does matter for these folks.

If you are worth $50MM, and your $10MM house falls to $6MM (and you don’t have debt on it), you aren’t going to lose your house. However, if your net worth falls also from $50MM to $30MM, and you have capital calls coming from venture funds, you are going to feel squeezed, especially when your auction rate securities (which were very liquid) become illiquid.

Now these folks are back to being worth $40MM, but remember the squeeze of late 2008 vividly. These are the good cases and those with the strongest hands.

You can do the same thing for the $5MM net worth household and their $3MM home owned all cash. Perhaps liquidity issues, but for many of these, their net worth is in illiquid stuff (stock options/stock), but they don’t have a lot of obligations above and beyond what their paychecks cover.

Now, to those that thought they were on their way (perhaps salary of a few hundred thousand per year, with some stock options that are worth something still), but they need to have a mortgage, not an all-cash buyer. One of the more popular loans was the option ARM for these folks. Some of these folks viewed their house as another thing that would go up in value (like their options). At the teaser rate, they could make the payments, and still go on the vacation, lease the BMW, and send their kids to the expensive schools. When that monthly mortgage goes from $5k to $10+k, they are going to be in trouble…eventually.

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Comment by Fed Up
2010-03-29 07:34:24

The prices might be holding up now, but at least in my area (Chicago suburbs) there are some mighty big mortgages on those high end homes.

Comment by Kim
2010-03-29 09:12:08

Its amazing how many folks in the NW ‘burbs bought $600K-$900K homes with $50K (if that) down.

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Comment by waiting_in_la
2010-03-29 09:44:13

Yes - this is true and key.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-03-29 11:20:48

Read what happened to the 1000 Island area which was once the playground of Wall Street wealth in the 1920s. The ever size escalating summer homes were soon to be known as the rock around the next generations’ necks and many were given to the state to rid the heirs of the tax burden.

 
 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 07:33:55

Recall that rich and poor used the same products to buy more home than they could afford. It’s just that the rich in the nice areas had better credit scores and got teaser rates for 3-7 years instead of 1-3. Thus, the coming 2nd wave of resets will greatly affect the nice areas.

Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:12:28

Never confuse the rich and the elite.

The elite have more money than God, top 400 took in 350mil/year on average. They likely pay cash for homes. Even 20 million dollar mansion is chump change.

Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 08:24:37

I don’t think I confused them. I’m not talking about the elites at all, unless you have evidence to suggest they bought all of West LA or Redondo Beach.

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Comment by waiting_in_la
2010-03-29 09:46:35

Here’s an anecdote for you. My landlord, who started accumulating property in LA over 40 years ago says she’s broke. At one point, she owned 11 houses in North Hollywood and 8 in West Hollywood.
3 years ago when I met with her, I was talking about Option ARM loans, and she said that her accountant told her they were ’safe’.

She has to sell some of her properties and move into a halfway done remodel.

There’s an anecdote for you. Bring out the multiplier effect.

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-03-29 12:36:55

“safe” LOL. What the hell was that supposed to mean?

 
Comment by 45north
2010-03-29 18:40:29

safe for him

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 13:40:55

Even the elite are feeling it. The wife who’s divorcing the supposed billionaire who owns the LA Dodgers wants a million dollars a month alimony. Why? So she can pay the mortgages(!) on her seven(!) properties. They’re both claiming they’re down to their last million or so dollars in ‘liquid’ cash.

Looks like there’s one less billionaire in the world. Hard times.

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:02:14

The article is quite accurate from what I have seen…

 
Comment by GrizzlyBear
2010-03-29 11:01:30

The idea that the tonier neighborhoods will hang onto a larger percentage of their bubble gains than the lower end neighborhoods is pure fantasy, IMO. It’s just taking longer for them to correct, but correct they will. The housing market is like a chain, inter-connected by links. The higher priced house sales are largely driven by move-up buyers who sell their entry level homes. When those entry level homes crater in value, so do the move-up homes. Sure, the stronger hands can hold out longer, but the market will bleed them dry eventually. Already seeing it happen with some of those weaker “stronger hands”.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 03:44:53

States Seeking Cash Hope to Expand Taxes to Services
The New York Times

In the scramble to find something, anything, to generate more revenue, states are considering new taxes on virtually everything: garbage pickup, dating services, bowling night, haircuts, even clowns.

A Michigan proposal would lower the sales tax but make it broader, levying it on over 100 additional types of services like haircuts.

“It’s hard enough doing what we do,” grumbled John Luke, a plumber in the Philadelphia suburbs. His services would, for the first time, come with an added tax if the governor has his way.

Opponents of imposing taxes on services like funerals, legal advice, helicopter rides and dry cleaning argue that this push comes as businesses are barely clinging to life and can ill afford to see customers further put off by new taxes. This is especially true, they say, in states like Michigan and Pennsylvania, where some of the most sweeping proposals are being considered this spring.

But this is also a period of economic gloom for states. Pension funds are in the red, federal stimulus help will soon vanish, and revenues from traditional sources like income and property taxes are slumping ever lower, with few elected officials willing to risk voter wrath by raising them.

“This is born out of necessity,” said Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania, a Democrat. His proposed budget, being debated in Harrisburg, would tax services including accounting, advertising and data processing.

Mr. Rendell argues that the state’s current sales tax system makes no sense. (Why, he asks, is the popcorn in his state’s movie theaters taxed, but the candy is not?)

“Look, I’m not a crazy tax guy,” Mr. Rendell said, reflecting on recent trims to the budget. “I know what we’ve cut the last two years, and I know how deep and painful the cuts have been. So I know that in the future there’s going to have to be a revenue increase, and this is the best of the alternatives, obviously none of which we’re happy about.”

Comment by Bad Chile
2010-03-29 04:33:15

New Mexico, IIRC, has a Gross Receipts Tax and not a Sales Tax, and it extends to pretty much everything including services.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 04:57:29

“This is born out of necessity,” said Gov. Edward G. Rendell

First off, Ed and his buddies in statehouses across the country painted themselves into this corner. Second, the people are also capable of acting out of necessity, they’ll adapt to broader taxes in ways Ed and company might not imagine. This is anything but a “gimme”.

Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:18:44

It will just make used “stuff” more valuable particularly “stuff” they can’t track like my new/used bicycle I just bought thanks to
Mr. P-Bear :)

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 08:46:02

What kind? I’m building up my “fleet” this spring too - at the moment I’m looking for a large steel road frame, the bigger ones are always harder to find for some reason. Garage Sale season is about to start - so that’s good news.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 10:24:54

Still looking for a violin. Also going to look into putting violins and bows into IRAs. Any tax leads on that idea?

 
Comment by MrBubble
2010-03-29 12:03:55

Watch out for the next bubble: rosin.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 13:44:35

Planning on fiddling while Rome burns, PBear?

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 15:58:28

“Planning on fiddling while Rome burns, PBear?”

You bring to mind the morning of 9/01/01. I was enjoying my customary 6:00 am practice session, when the phone rang. You know it can’t be a good thing when your mother-in-law is on the other end of the line at 6:45 am. Soon I was looking, quite aghast, at a live tee vee from the Twin Towers; had it on when the second tower was hit.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 15:59:30

…9/11/01…

 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 18:06:21

Gary Fisher 29er/Crossover :)

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 18:07:34

Above was response the Ejohn…

 
 
 
 
Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 05:21:32

Raising taxes raises expenses. In this environment cutting expenses may mean survival, adding expenses may mean failure, thus there is a great incentive to cheat.

Darwin at work: Those businesses who cheat the best get to stay in business, the ones who don’t cheat go out of business.

Eventually most all the remaining business will be tax cheaters which means less tax revenue will be flowing into governmnet coffers.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-03-29 05:38:35

Our local city gov just shut down a bakery/restaurant for not paying the sales taxes owed.

http://reporterherald.com/news_story.asp?ID=27442

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 10:24:32

Happened when I worked in the bike shop. One of our larger, haughtier rivals got nailed by the state. Seems that this oh-so-cool high end shop neglected to pay sales tax owed to Arizona.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 13:47:17

Yep, we just had my favorite Thai restaurant shut down for not paying their taxes.

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:21:48

Spot on Combo and I would add;

there is a great incentive to cheat ??

There will be a great incentive to “Cheat More”..

Comment by In Colorado
2010-03-29 09:03:23

Just don’t get caught. They will make an example of you if they do.

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Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 05:30:13

Even *I’m* starting to think that something has to be done about legacy costs for public employees. I know someone who was a state trooper for 20 years and still lives off that pension 25 years after he retired. Means testing? Public option health care with HSA carved from the pension? Maybe only pay benefits if you live in state 10 months of the year, to put a stop to snowbirding? Don’t know if they do that in Michigan, but it may work. The retirees don’t have much of a say. I don’t see these retirees convincing the current public employees (who likely don’t have such juicy benefits coming) to strike, and their votes are fast being outnumbered by the young.

Seems to me that nickel and diming would far more stress, in the form of constant annoyance, than what would be taken in by these little taxes.

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:04:50

“The retirees don’t have much of a say.”

Hence they won’t get the money promised to them.

It’s easy to pay in promises, hard to pay in cash. Cash needs to paid out immediately, promised money is promised to paid out many years later.

If I were and employer I’d pay my employees using as much promised money as possible while keeping all the cash money I could.

 
Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-03-29 06:24:16

Instead of having someone employed at let’s say $25.00 an hour in the manufacturing sector, you now have this person in the services sector making let’s say $10.00 an hour. Multiply that by millions of people and the social security, Medicare, federal and state tax base takes a significant hit. I wonder if the political types considered this when pushing free trade.

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:29:25

“I wonder if the political types considered this when pushing free trade.”

The only thing politicians consider is how to get re-elected.

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Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 06:41:27

Agree, combo. I actually think the political types did consider it…for ten minutes. Then the filet mignon arrived, served on a plate of campaign cash.

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 10:34:15

“The only thing politicians consider is how to get re-elected.”

Are they not creatures of habit?

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 13:51:42

The only thing politicians consider is how to get re-elected.

Oh, come now, you cynics. They also consider who they can do favors for so they can make big bucks after they retire or get voted out.

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 07:17:17

It’s worse than that. You have people working at the big box for $10/hr. to support the wages and bennies of civil servants making $50/hr.

How long is that going to last? And what is the incentive of the former to keep playing along with the game?

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:43:16

I agree E-John…Therein lies a large part of the problem…

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2010-03-29 12:59:34

How long is that going to last? And what is the incentive of the former to keep playing along with the game?

As long as the former keeps voting for the Republicrat status quo, they are giving their de facto seal of approval to “playing along with the (rigged) game.” They can piss and moan all they want, but by sleepwalking through life and slavishly supporting Tweedle Dee or Tweedle Dum candidates, their complaints about how unfair the system is ring hollow.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 13:59:31

Some of us are still looking for a good alternative, Sammy. In the meantime we try to nudge the sh!tstem in the direction we prefer. I’m still waiting for a fiscally conservative, socially liberal, pro-environmental(!) third party. And it neither the Tea Party nor the Pauls fill that bill.

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-03-29 06:25:41

Oxide: a better one if you are “retired” that means no other job. Otherwise you can collect only at 65.

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I know someone who was a state trooper for 20 years and still lives off that pension 25 years after he retired. Means testing?

 
Comment by Bad Chile
2010-03-29 07:17:50

My solution: can’t collect benefits longer than the time in which you were employed. If you croack before your benefits expire your heirs collect the full benefit (which is a small incentive not to start pulling early) for the remainder of the term.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:27:57

if you live in state 10 months of the year, to put a stop to snowbirding ??

Higher end government pensioners (Fire,police, Admid. Management) are flocking out of my state and taking their benefit packages with them..One couple I know are saving roughly $2,000. per month just by moving to NV…

Comment by DennisN
2010-03-29 11:44:32

There’s an easier and more politically sellable solution. Claim income tax jurisdiction over government pensions.

If you retired as a CA cop and move out of state, that’s fine. But CA should have the “hooks” into you to pay full CA state income tax on you. Expand state taxing jurisdiction “in rem” over pension payments .

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Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 13:08:56

CA was doing exactly that. They no longer do collect taxes. Not sure what happened.

 
Comment by m2p
2010-03-29 19:03:02

Believe it was a 1995-6 federal tax law. State taxes will be paid only in the state in which you reside. If you move to a state with no income taxes, like NV, you can escape completely.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-03-29 06:28:32

a TON of state $$$ goes to pay out overly-generous retirement programs known as - Defined Benefit Plans.

The states need to rip up these retirement contracts (via bankruptcy?) & free themselves from the burden of paying this unsustainable liability!!

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:30:54

Why should the retirees be the ones who have to give up their savings to repay the debt burden? Why don’t we start by paying for the liability out of your savings account?

Or didn’t you bother to save anything?

Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-03-29 06:50:33

That’s the problem!!

I have saved well into the seven digits.

Now… I’m forced to pay higher taxes, have a deflated currency.. thanks to our fiscal policy.

Meanwhile.. gov’t types keep dishing out the gold-plated retirement programs (work 20 years.. get 100% retirement pay for life at 50 yrs old!!)

Guess who doesn’t want (or deserve) to pay for this crap!!

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:01:49

I think you should be careful not to paint all defined benefit plans with a broad brush. Many governmental employees (e.g. school teachers) accept lower wages than they could earn in the private sector in contractual exchange for DB pension security. Your decision to save to seven figures and face the risk that it would be taxed away was your own.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:05:13

“(work 20 years.. get 100% retirement pay for life at 50 yrs old!!)”

Where do I sign up? And do I have to become a Greek citizen?

 
Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-03-29 07:09:11

” accept lower wages than they could earn in the private sector in contractual exchange for DB pension security.”

THIS IS PRECISELY MY PROBLEM!!

The gov’t should NOT OFFER this!!!

If you want a job.. here’s the pay…. with a 401(k) plan.

NO DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN!! End them ALL!!

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:20:47

“NO DEFINED BENEFIT PLAN!! End them ALL!!”

Instead of screaming in caps on a blog, why don’t you get to work at changing pension law. Because those defined benefit pension promises are legally set in stone. You aren’t likely to get far with the effort to rescind existing pension promises, but perhaps you could succeed in killing off the remaining vestiges of the defined benefit pension system the U.S. used to enjoy.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 07:31:17

Calm down, have a blueberry smoothie, you’ll feel better.

Don’t forget that the young are pitching in their part by accepting lower wages, without the pension promise. The retired could pitch in their part by accepting a means test, which IMO is a middle-of-the-road approach. Don’t get rid of pensions; just lower the amounts, or institute some steeply progressive tax on total retirement income. Anything other than nickel and diming a damn $12 haircut.

You don’t really need that much money in retirement, especially if you were smart enough to downsize. (depending on what happens to Medicare.)

 
Comment by OcBystander
2010-03-29 07:56:55

“Many governmental employees (e.g. school teachers) accept lower wages than they could earn in the private sector in contractual exchange for DB pension security.”

Uh no no no no, California school teachers (K-5 at least) are only required to work 7 hours a day … for 10 months. And get all school holidays off as well. No, no no one with a four year degree gets anything close in the private sector. And their wages, starting out are really not all that bad. My mom has a four year degree, is one year away from retirement and is making over $70K … for 10 MONTHS OF WORK as a kindergarten teacher. It’s not for everybody, it is a totally sweet deal with great security.

 
Comment by The_Overdog
2010-03-29 08:05:03

I’m honestly surprised that haircuts and plumbing services and the likes aren’t already taxed.

 
Comment by polly
2010-03-29 08:07:56

“Means testing” a pension (which is, as Bear points out, just a form of deferred salary) is pretty much the same thing as telling a female teacher that she gets a lower salary than her male colleague because she is just the second income in her family while the man is a primary breadwinner in his. You get less of something you earned because someone else has decided that you don’t need it as much.

This is a very different situation than Social Security, which, despite all protests to the contrary, is really a social welfare program with a payout to the middle and upper classes so they don’t vote it out of existance.

 
Comment by cactus
2010-03-29 08:09:51

I keep hearing and reading that the some parts of Government wants to re-do 401K’s anyway

sort of re-place them with a government plan probably treasuries

 
Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 08:25:34

I’m not seeing the sexist angle to means testing a pension. I hear you that a teacher’s pension is more likely to lopped because “the spouse” had a nice 401K and raised their total retirement income. However, that’s not sexist. The situation would be the same if Hus was a teacher and Wife was a lawyer.

The sexist part happens long before pension time. The sexist part is when they pay teachers less to begin with, knowing full well that there are plenty of second income women to fill the jobs at the low pay. There are far fewer male teachers than there were when I was in school. Maybe the ratio will even out again as more women become primary breadwinners, leaving men free to teach, bruised ego or not.

Leaving out the sexism, there’s still a (slim?) justification to means test a teacher pension. If the teacher was a second income, then the household would have enjoyed higher pay through their working years. So during retirement, the couple pays their fair share back in means testing.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:40:42

There are far fewer male teachers than there were when I was in school ??

IMO, potential accusations of sexual misconduct is a reason…The accusation is enough to ruin a carrear possibly a life..Men still dominate the Admid. departments and private all boys schools…

 
Comment by polly
2010-03-29 08:57:04

I didn’t say it was sexist. I used the female/male example because that is the situation that has generally been the case in the past. The unfairness comes, as I pointed out, in that the person who is perceived to *need* the money less is being compensated less for the exact same work - as long as you recognize that earning the defined benefit pension is part of wages. It is and it always has been.

The real issue comes from what OcBystander pointed out. Teachers aren’t really paid all that much less than other moderately educated professionals. Now I don’t buy that teachers only work 7 hours a day. You can’t do lesson prep and grade papers inside the school day. But the pay used to be much lower compared to other holders of college degrees. The great benefits made up for it. As the salaries have gone up (and they have, at least in some places) the benefits remained the same or got even better. So you let the salaries catch up and don’t modify the benefits. Now they are being paid both ways.

Sounds like a job for a school committee with balls that can actually renegotiate the teacher contract. You can have great benefits or higher pay, but not both. You can’t have either one with guaranteed job security even if your kids aren’t learning anything. And you don’t get job security if we decide that the town can’t afford to have fewer than 20 kids in a classroom. No automatic promotion to “reading coordinator” if you decide you don’t want to deal with 7 year olds anymore.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 09:43:51

Relax Timmy Boy. All pensions except politicians and CEOs/BODs (and some other minor exceptions) are already being phased out along with a wage one can live on.

Which of course means more government assistance later… because it’s impossible to save any money on $12hr.

There, don’t you feel better now?

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 09:46:51

How about people that set up long term obligations based on pension promises such as long term debt like a mortgage payment etc. ? When companies make a deal to give benefits
and they underfund them for years ,than that is a additional problem .

I don’t believe that defined benefits were the best approach
and pensions based on payments yearly into the plan based on the actual yearly profit of a Company ,that would have wide yearly swings, would of been more sustainable . Same with government jobs in the ability to obtain tax revenue in any given year . By the way, I got a reduction in my pension due to a BK of a Company .

It’s pretty easy to see what happened and part of the problem was a abrupt systems change with Globalism regarding wage stability and tax base stability .

I don’t think the powers that be put much thought into the unintended consequences of de-regulation ,trade imbalances ,transfer of tax base because of outsourcing and out
manufacturing ,and global wage competition rendering long term systems in the US as being underfunded . Just like there wasn’t serious thought put into what the effects would be by not enforcing the immigration laws ,which resulted in Governments need to supplement health care to these
illegal workers that their employers didn’t provide .

The banking system of fractional reserves that created debt
and the fake wealth effect by the real estate boom was another byproduct of the Money Changers and Corporate America getting their way with money creation .Insurance monopolies and price fixing is also the other area that has cracked the backs of not only Industry but the Majority .

So, there are a number of factors that have created this melt down of systems functioning in the same old way . I just don’t like the rigged and stacked decks and answers that attempt to choose the winners and losers by what Lobbying
power has the most bucks . There are serious problems here
that need just and fair solutions .

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 10:27:10

“Uh no no no no, California school teachers (K-5 at least) are only required to work 7 hours a day … for 10 months.”

Are you really so dense that you don’t realize that teaching school requires lots of prep time outside of the classroom?
I see cars parked at the local grade school every weekend; they belong to the teachers who are working over the weekend to prep their classes for the upcoming week.

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 10:38:51

Wow Timmy Boy, I would like to introduce you to my sister-in-law, who is a special ed teacher. She only wishes her day was 7 hours long.

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 11:49:46

@OCbystander;

I know there is some variation in salary but LA starts at 45K with a full credentials.

I’ve seen 50-55 for special ed.

I think that is based on teaching summer school too. The 10 month salary is less so you take home something in the 38K range.

Maybe OC has gone totally insane? No wonder they went bankrupt.

 
Comment by Joe Lawyer
2010-03-29 16:55:06

On average, school teachers are the bottom 10% of college graduates. Absent a public school system, many (most) would be unemployable or working at a similar or lower wage than they earn ignoring our students.

If they want sympathy, it is in the dictionary between sh!t and syphilis.

 
Comment by OcBystander
2010-03-29 19:30:20

“Are you really so dense that you don’t realize that teaching school requires lots of prep time outside of the classroom?” PB

First of calm down, PB, no need for personal insults. Second of all. Yes, I know, my mother is a damn fine teacher (as are many of my relatives) - she does work outside the classroom, many of her colleagues do not. But if you read carefully, I used the word “require”. Some do just the minimum, some do much more. Nothing compared to the private sector, though - week for week the average salary private sector worker, in my experience, works way, way more hour than 35 hours.

“I know there is some variation in salary but LA starts at 45K with a full credentials … Maybe OC has gone totally insane? No wonder they went bankrupt.” james
james, you mention starting salary and question my numbers. I mentioned $70K+ at retirement. Second, you assumed she works in OC, not true, east LA county, but not LAUSD. $70K / 7 hour (required (minimum)) day / 10 month work year + awesome pension + lots of great holidays off + gov\union backed job security = sweet deal.

A little order and decorum on the HBB would be nice. I’m not insulting teachers, so no one should take offense. There are good ones and bad ones getting the same sweet deal. Lots of people are suffering these days while others are making out quite nicely. I don’t think it inappropriate to vet out possible inequity, especially when government $$ are involved.

But alas, it’s late and I have an 8+ hour job that does not afford me a chance to respond to abusive comments, so I will keep my mouth keyboard quite from here on out.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:29:12

“In the scramble to find something, anything, to generate more revenue, states are considering new taxes on virtually everything: garbage pickup, dating services, bowling night, haircuts, even clowns.”

I foresee more barter ahead to pay for services.

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:36:57

I see an expansion of the Underground Economy.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 06:41:18

Yes

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Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 07:19:29

It was expanding even before this, but back then it was just covered up. Now, it’s being noticed but it’s also growing on steroids.

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Comment by wolfgirl
2010-03-29 07:29:18

Absolutely. My son does that a bit of that now. He helped a friend with a minor computer problem on her mother’s laptop. In return he accepted sight unseen a yr old tower and 17 inch monitor her father said didn’t work. Guess what? Both work fine.
Now he’s just waiting for another computer illiterate friend to pass on a laptop. It’s bound to happen.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-03-29 12:15:24

Bush was the greatest creator of underground jobs, and the big O is continuing his plans.

You should see how many intern and stipend “jobs” are being created everyday. Just try and get a real paycheck with taxes taken out…

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:45:22

more barter ahead to pay for services ??

Yep….

 
Comment by SV guy
2010-03-29 09:12:48

Just wait until ‘they’ install a VAT tax.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 07:15:06

As far as tax fairness goes, why should goods be taxed and not services? I eat at a diner, I pay tax. I get a haircut next door, I pay no tax. What’s the difference? Why is one taxed and not the other?

Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:48:59

Why is one taxed and not the other ??

Enforcement…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 09:46:17

Every state has its own unique tax code.

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:14:04

continue to tax the poor middle and upper middle and rich to support the elite.

 
Comment by 2banana
2010-03-29 08:15:08

“Look, I’m not a crazy tax guy,” Mr. Rendell said,

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

PA state income tax up 50% under Rendell (D)
PA tolls up over 100% under Rendell (D)
SEPTA mass transit prices up 33%
Etc.
Rendell (D) has not touched one public union salary, benefit or pension
Rendell (D) wanted so many other taxes and fees…but the last remaining Republican held branch (PA senate) keeps refusing him.

Comment by exeter
2010-03-29 09:57:05

boogey boogey booo!

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 05:18:02

Contractors cope with new lead rules
The Post and Courier ~ March 29, 2010

Next month, a new set of rules will take effect designed to protect homeowners and others from lead dust stirred up during home remodeling.

But Charleston-area contractors say the rules also will make a lot of renovation work more costly, particularly since the Lowcountry has so many older homes with old paint that contains lead.

Contractors such as Chuck Bennett also fear the public doesn’t know enough about what’s going on.

“My fear is they’re going to think it’s something bogus that Chuck Bennett trumped up for extra work,” he said.

Bennett already has spent about $1,000 to train and certify his firm and train three of its employees.

The new U.S. Environmental Protection Agency rules apply to contractors, including subcontractors, who work on housing, child care facilities or schools built before 1978. They’re required to get new training in lead-safework practices that will reduce exposure.

Lead exposure, particularly among children, has been considered a public health menace. The concern has been acute in Charleston because of its relatively high number of older homes containing at least some lead paint.

Rob Crawford of Renaissance South Construction Co. said most contractors already protect against dust anyway, “but this is just taking it to a whole new level.”

The rule applies whenever at least 6 square feet of interior space or at least 20 square feet of exterior space are affected. The fine is an attention-getting $32,000 per offense.

Phillip Ford, executive vice president of the Charleston Trident Home Builders Association, said he has talked to contractors who won’t work on the older homes so they don’t have to worry about the rules.

Crawford said the rules could double the cost of some smaller jobs, but the relative added expense for larger jobs would be less noticeable.

Comment by jess
2010-03-29 06:12:16

For every contractor that follows the rules on this one , there’ll be a half dozen who have no assets to lose and will do a quick , no holds barred skip on it . There’s no way the upstate SC customer who is squeaky tight , and whose house isn’t near worth what Charleston houses are , will pay extra for this . It’s the contractors with assets to protect who’ll follow the rules .

 
Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 08:56:50

Make work, Make money…Thats what this is all about…What they have done is just “taxed” every home in the county that was built before 1978…The greedy hand will find a way…

Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 09:07:13

no assets to lose and will do a quick , no holds barred skip on it ??

Maybe not so…

The person (owner ?) who hires the contractor and has knowledge that the removal has been completed improperly could be on the hook “Big Time”…

Furthermore, if the work requires a permit, the municipality will require a environmental inspection and the vendor that pulls that portion of the permit for lead paint abatement will not only need to be licensed in that trade but also bonded and insured in the area of lead paint abatement and also provide a manifest to the municipality showing the chain of handling of the material…

 
 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-03-29 05:28:14

I guess even the Russians don’t have the guts to fight a religious Jihad. The Taliban had it right destroy religious symbols and churches. Why can’t we just leave the innocent people alone.

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MOSCOW — Female suicide bombers set off huge explosions during rush hour Monday morning in two subway stations in central Moscow, officials said, killing at least 35 people and raising fears that the Muslim insurgency in southern Russia was once again being brought to the country’s heart.

Comment by Stpn2me
2010-03-29 06:02:57

I will never understand why people cant understand there is no negotiating with muslim extremists. It isnt about us occupying their country, it isnt about their oil. They are just plain evil. They MUST be fought. They will kill until all bow to their religion. It’s either bow or die. There is a woman here in south afghanistan who had her ears and nose cut off because she “disrespected” her husband. And there are hundreds of these cases in this crap hole…

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-03-29 06:24:38

Stpn2me
Well said and unfortunately true. Muslim Extremists, and plain wrap Muslims, is there truly a difference? You’re experiencing both, I assume. I’m interested in your opinion.

Comment by Stpn2me
2010-03-29 07:43:04

Most “plain wrap” muslims are just scared. There is a real danger to them. They are an actual case of needing to be protected. Most people who talk crap about the military and certain policies dont realize how close they are to actually losing their rights and security if it were not for those other brave souls willing to come to this and other god forsaken places and risk their lives.

I see where you are going with it, and yes, I too believe “moderate” islam needs to stand up more to extremists. But then again, when standing up means getting yours and your families head cut off…well..not everyone is that brave..

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-03-29 10:24:16

Stpn2me
Thanks for your opinion. Stay safe. You’re all in our prayers and thoughts. We have two family members in Afghanistan, and it amazes me what our military is made of. The best of the best. Bless you, Stpn.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 10:29:39

Seconded on the stay safe, Stpn2me!

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-03-29 12:49:21

“when standing up means getting yours and your families head cut off…well..not everyone is that brave..”

I think that dynamic is already operating in Europe.

 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-03-29 06:31:45

People don’t understand there’s no negotiating because most people can’t confront evil. They can’t believe it, so it doesn’t exist. It was hard for me just to look at photos of a stoning on line.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:07:22

We should come to grips with the fact that, due to religious constraints, a significant portion of the world never advanced beyond the middle ages. Those who enjoy the rich legacy of the European Renaissance tend to have a hard time putting this reality into perspective.

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Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:16:37

There are plenty here in the US of A that fit that description PB, unfortunately they have benefited from the Renaissance that they hope to shut down.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 09:51:35

You are both, sadly, correct.

And while I’m not fond of our 2 front war, stpn2me is also correct.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 10:30:51

It was hard for me just to look at photos of a stoning on line.

I wouldn’t even look at that.

Not to mention the murder of Nicholas Berg. His father was one of my mother’s teaching colleagues.

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 06:32:44

That’s what scares me too Step. I worked on a military base for eleven years. I was more conscious of security threats. We had yearly standdowns and were told the facts about people who hate the west (western developed world). Most people on this blog would wet their panties if they could see what you see.

There are 1 billion Muslims on this planet. If only ten percent are the suicidal bomber type, the world has a big problem. This problem was created not by you, not by me, or my next door neighbor who I never met. It was created by government foreign policy in support of their enemy, Israel.

Our governments are putting innocent people’s necks on the sacrificial altar just to support a tiny country less than maybe 5% of the population of America and less than 0.2% of the population of the world.

We’ve got to come up with a better policy and philosophy and realize that the terrorists do not seem to go after neutral countries such as Switzerland or Costa Rica. Why? Have they attacked Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, or Canada?

Ron Paul should have been made President. He’s for pulling out of the Middle East. Israel stole the land from the Palestinians six or seven decades ago. The’ve been enemies for centuries. Why should we get involved in someone else’s fight? Let Israel accept full responsibility for defending what it stole.

I put it this way: If I was driving down the street and I saw a fight between the Crips and Bloods, would it be rational for me to get out of my car and hand out better weapons to either side?

Comment by yensoy
2010-03-29 07:44:51

1. While I don’t support the endless no-strings aid to Israel, I don’t think anti US extremism will disappear if this aid stops.

2. If by some miracle, anti US extremism disappears, that will still not put an end to islamic extremism in the rest of the world, which will continue to affect US and US interests (Philippines and Mumbai come to mind).

3. You mentioned Australia as a neutral country that has not suffered an attack. You are only partly right - no there hasn’t been an attack in Australia but don’t forget about the Bali bombings which were very much directed against Australia. You mention Switzerland. Great, a few years ago you could have included Denmark in the list. Evidently a cartoonist caused the country to drop off the list.

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Comment by packman
2010-03-29 07:45:15

I agree we need to take a more hands-off approach in many areas, but If you see this as a “crips vs. bloods” thing, and don’t see our deep vested interest in what goes on there - you need to do some more studying of political and religious history, as well as demographics.

I’m not an expert on the subject, but I know it’s far too important to just take a “get out and leave it alone” approach.

And I’m not talking about oil either - we actually get a quite small percentage of our oil from the middle east.

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Comment by Stpn2me
2010-03-29 07:49:38

We will have to disagree on this one. The holy land is also holy to christians too. I dont know or care if you believe in the GAOTU, but I believe what my bible tells me and I would love to visit where the plumbline(Jesus) Amos 7:8, walked. If muslims had their way, they would destroy all the history claimed by Christians, the same way they did the buddist statues here in afghanistan as to them it’s profane. That entire area is committed to destroying a people, how can anyone defend that? If I were Israel, I would fight to the last man….

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Comment by SV guy
2010-03-29 09:23:01

Step,

How many people here besides you and I know what GAOTU means?

Not many I bet.

How many can answer this question correctly?

P.S. Step, while I personally think the war is BS, here’s to you and your men getting home safely.

 
Comment by MrBubble
2010-03-29 12:11:59

Going off on Muslim extremists and then holding up your guy as the “plumbline” and your book as something in which you believe (utterly, I presume)? Oy! Where are the irony police when you need them?

 
Comment by Chris M
2010-03-29 12:47:23

Because they are all morally equivalent, right? Osama Bin Ladin, Pat Robertson, what’s the difference really? They’re all equally evil, right?

 
 
Comment by Michael Fink
2010-03-29 08:30:53

If we pulled out of Israel, and, as a result, their sovereignty was threatened (which is most likely would be, considering that the entire region hates them), they would, without a doubt, nuke their neighbors out of existence. You have to remember, Israel is also an extremist state; they wouldn’t hesitate to turn the entire area into a nuclear wasteland to protect their land.

Frankly, it’s probably the only way that it will ever stop over there. Eventually someone is going to nuke the other side, and turn the entire “Holy Land” into a place that no human can set foot for the next 10,000 years. That’s the only thing that will stop the fighting, and it’s almost a foregone conclusion that it’s going to happen at some point. Our interventionist policies just prolong the time; the outcome will eventually be the same.

Frankly, we should have wiped our hands of this region a long, long time ago. The fighting would be over, and the region would be far more stable. It’s possible that after they dropped the first nuke, the other side would stop (not likely), but, either way, there would be a clear winner and a clear loser. Unfortunately, the loser would likely be erased totally from the map.

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Comment by WHYoung
2010-03-29 10:25:25

I often wonder what would have happened if they had followed something along the lines of the 1947 plan for Palestine, which would have created two states and Jerusalem/Bethlehem would have been an international zone.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine

 
Comment by Lip
2010-03-29 11:34:30

Mr Fink,

Have you ever read “Revelations”? While I am not a bible scholar I know enough to say that this area will never experience total peace until the end of times. It started when Abraham knocked up his wife’s servant because Sarah was barren. Ever since this time the two sides have been fighting.

Best Regards,
Lip

PS: How is S FLA doing? Can people get insurance for all those cheap homes?

 
Comment by MrBubble
2010-03-29 12:15:14

I’ve read it. Less of a snooze-fest than Leviticus, to be sure. But using a book to predict the future and explain the present situation? That’s pretty scary stuff.

 
Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-03-29 16:27:47

Yeah, kind of like using “Earth in the Balance” as your guide to the future.

 
 
Comment by SV guy
2010-03-29 09:17:52

“No foreign entanglements”??

I know I have heard that somewhere????

Oh look, a puppy……….

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Comment by I Corinthians 4:2
2010-03-29 10:56:17

“This problem was created not by you, not by me, or my next door neighbor who I never met. It was created by government foreign policy in support of their enemy, Israel.

Our governments are putting innocent people’s necks on the sacrificial altar just to support a tiny country less than maybe 5% of the population of America and less than 0.2% of the population of the world.”

Preach it!

As for the “holy land”, see Luke 17:20 & 21 and John 18:36.

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Comment by neuromance
2010-03-29 19:37:31

There are 1 billion Muslims on this planet. If only ten percent are the suicidal bomber type, the world has a big problem. This problem was created not by you, not by me, or my next door neighbor who I never met. It was created by government foreign policy in support of their enemy, Israel.

BUT - the world’s a lot smaller place than it was. 747s, train lines, ships - it’s a lot smaller place than it was. The Islamic culture is much more prone to bumping into non-Islamic cultures than it used to be. Remember 9/11/01. Now don’t switch off - I’m not a neo-con Cheney-Bushite invoking 9/11 to be jingoistic.

The point of invoking 9/11 is to remember that they came HERE and slaughtered 3000 civilians. This was before Iraq II.

Mumbai massacre, and the various bombings there. India was partitioned 60 years ago and about a million people died in a few weeks. Today, Kashmir is a disputed territory and a lot of Islamic terror comes out of there. Obviously not all Muslims are bad - there are lots of solid, decent hardworking folks who are Muslim and who love their children. But when a Muslim society meets a non-Muslim society, something in the culture prompts young men to take up Jihad against the infidel.

So effing what? Let them duke it out over there.

What about the Israelis? They took over the land the Arabs were on and forced them out (that land was partitioned by the British too). Eff em all. So what? Let them duke it out over there.

But wait…

We’ve got to come up with a better policy and philosophy and realize that the terrorists do not seem to go after neutral countries such as Switzerland or Costa Rica. Why? Have they attacked Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Ireland, or Canada?

Those countries are safe for the same reason that Pork Bend, Idaho is safe, and Manhattan, washington DC, the Pentagon and the Capitol are not - they are not symbols of non-Islamic power.

Point is - world’s a lot smaller than it was. We could seal our borders and become insular. But is that realistic? I mean in terms of the makeup of our population of immigrants (I’m all for sealing the border BTW, and realize any talk of immigration reform without it is just j-rking off the American public)?

Immigrants are energetic hard scrabblers. We’re not insular, homogeneous Swedes or Japanese or Germans. We’re a combination of Native Americans, all manner of northern, southern, eastern and western Europeans, and Latin Americans and Africans and Asians. Little chance of us becoming insular.

Does that mean we should be putting our snout were it shouldn’t be? Of course not. Should we be militarily adventures. No way.

But we ignore Islamists at our own risk. After 9/11, even those of the most limited imagination can see that the world is a smaller place, and there are devastating ways that we can be attacked (the US had nuclear artillery shells in the 1950s - see the Davy Crockett). We’re not fighting Islamists for only Israel’s sake, although it does benefit them. It also might benefit the Russians, the Indians, and any culture in direct contact with the Islamic world. Most importantly though, it benefits us.

World’s a lot smaller than it used to be. Can we put our head down and hope for the best? Not while we’re the last remaining superpower. I don’t think we’re not going to be left alone.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:34:21

Good to hear from you.

“I will never understand why people cant understand there is no negotiating with muslim extremists.”

There often are political advantages to publicly denying what you privately believe.

 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-03-29 06:50:52

Their own actions are turning most Muslims against them. They are losing legitimacy, and weakening, but that may lead to more desperate acts.

Comment by mikey
2010-03-29 08:11:07

Tony Montana What you lookin’ at You all a bunch of f***ing assholes. You know why You don’t have the guts to be what you wanna be You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your f***ing fingers and say, That’s the bad guy. So… what that make you Good You’re not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie. Me, I don’t have that problem. Me, I always tell the truth. Even when I lie. So say good night to the bad guy Come on. The last time you gonna see a bad guy like this again, let me tell you. Come on. Make way for the bad guy. There’s a bad guy comin’ through Better get outta his way — Scarface

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Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:17:48

Not to worry poverty and ignorance will swell their ranks again.

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Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 09:09:24

Nuke-um…

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 11:58:48

That’s one tough job sorting them out dude.

Stay safe my friend.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-03-29 08:18:38

The Taliban had it right destroy religious symbols and churches.

You are a nut case

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-03-29 12:25:29

2banana:

No not a nut case but we as Americans have been taught to respect each others regions…but what if you ran into someone who wanted to destroy everything except theirs?

This is what step is saying, but I take it a step further..the problem is not muslims but what is being taught in their houses of worship. That is where the evil is.

If they want a Religious Jihad well lets give them the Mother of all Jihads….thats all I am saying.

 
 
 
Comment by ACH
2010-03-29 05:37:05

Hey HBB’ers,
I found this on Reuters. I would have never guessed this was the actual case. The housing values are dropping, and it is now relatively easier to get a loan. FBs are now walking away - again.

I would have never guessed.

Roidy
P.S. My son has coined a new category: DIYFB. Do-It-Yourself-Frigged-Buyer.

Report shows strategic defaults increasing
Mar 26, 2010 09:01 EDT
Rolfe Winkler

strategic default

How widespread are strategic defaults? Laurie Goodman and her team at Amherst Mortgage Insight yesterday released a report that shows they are indeed on the rise and for reasons we might suspect: negative equity and a more borrower-friendly environment.

The second reason should be kept in mind as we consider President Obama’s soon-to-be-announced plan to encourage principal reduction. If the plan is structured so that it gives incentives to default in order to secure principal forgiveness, well, expect defaults to spike.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-03-29 05:54:00

That’s the biggest incentive for anybody that has little or no equity to stop making payments. I mean you have to be a fool to continue making payments if defaulting might give you as much as a 30% reduction in principal.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-03-29 06:05:19

Something tells me that few will actually qualify for the principal reductions and that this is just grandstanding to give FB’s false hope.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-03-29 09:13:26

Or quit your job so you can qualify for it…What a friggen mess…

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:01:59

Who has to quit when your chances of being laid off are extremely good?

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Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 05:54:16

“If the plan is structured so that it gives incentives to default in order to secure principal forgiveness, well, expect defaults to spike”.

I have no clue how the new ‘plan’ is structured, but you can be sure it will be manipulated/scammed right off the bat. I am sure plenty have been burning the midnight oil to find it weaknesses.

Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-03-29 16:30:46

This plan is just begging to be scammed, isn’t it?

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-03-29 05:55:55

I would have never guessed.

It was completely unexpected.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:35:50

“The housing values are dropping,…”

In case you missed it, check out my post on yesterday’s bits bucket on the FHFA price index.

 
Comment by mariner22
2010-03-29 07:48:31

Perhaps today’s numbers showing personal spending up but personal income flat reflects people not paying their mortgages…..

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:04:31

There is always a surge this time year due to pent up winter demand and better weather facilitating mobility.

Just like in May when RE sales increase and then decrease again in Oct.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 05:49:09

“A ‘budget crisis’ is not some minor accounting exercise. It’s a wrenching political, social and economic upheaval. Large deficits and rising debt — the accumulation of past deficits — spook investors, leading to higher interest rates on government loans. The higher rates expand the budget deficit and further unnerve investors. To reverse this calamitous cycle, the government has to cut spending deeply or raise taxes sharply. Lower spending and higher taxes in turn depress the economy and lead to higher unemployment. Not pretty.”

~ Robert Samuelson ~ Washington Post

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-03-29 05:58:52

Buy now pay later! …now is later and the bills come due. All credit cards are maxed out, all lines of credit are drained and income is falling. The day of reckoning is drawing closer.

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:13:28

Cash ….

Comment by Chris M
2010-03-29 12:34:47

I’ve got some cash, but my kids’ school district has nothing but debt. I wonder if they’ll try to get their union represented hands on some of my cash? I’m sure not crazy about paying more for less.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:37:04

“…leading to higher interest rates on government loans.”

What’s this guy talking about? Aren’t the interest rates on governmental loans currently at generational lows?

 
 
Comment by jess
2010-03-29 05:57:58

The New level , of income a lot of folks aspire to is this .. Get on disability and get a few kids as dependents. One of my former tenents got on it with ”Back” trouble , then adopted his own grandsons , to boost the payout to about 3K a month . Then he built his own 2 car garage by himself . Did I turn him in ? No , we don’t stoop that low , though I do have access to the needed data . It’s like that all over , like winning the sweepstakes , to get on it . I doubt a third of those on disability are are for real , they just tired of working .

Comment by palmetto
2010-03-29 06:06:52

“Get on disability and get a few kids as dependents.”

Nothing new there with the kids as dependents part.

 
Comment by Stpn2me
2010-03-29 06:09:47

The New level , of income a lot of folks aspire to is this .. Get on disability

How correct you are. Seems like in the rural area I am from, no one is working. Everyone is either retired from RJ Reynolds, on disability or SS. Cost of living is sort of low, most houses were passed down through the family. There are also alot of insurance scams. Walking down through walmart or the mall and “slip” and fall and get insurance payouts.

Seems like everyone wants to be a bum..

Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-03-29 06:47:00

They gov’t is just encouraging this attitude more by telling everyone who’s underwater on a home:

1) It’s not your fault
2) You’re a victim
3) Somebody must’ve given you a bad loan
4) Here’s free loan forgiveness

Screw it!! If you can’t beat ‘em… join ‘em!!

 
Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 08:30:17

May I ask the politics of the rural area where you are from?

 
 
Comment by In Montana
2010-03-29 06:17:20

soft tissue injury is hard…go for mental.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 06:36:07

Again, JMHO, 95% of the American public, from all political backgrounds and all races and all religions, are dishonest and will cheat the system.

The rest of us have jobs that are subject to extensive background investigations which include credit checks, double checking tax forms, and so on.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 07:27:00

So you’re saying that, without jobs that require background checks etc, 100% of the American public are dishonest and will cheat the system?

 
Comment by polly
2010-03-29 09:21:11

Like claiming to be a resident of Arizona while really living in California and deducting all living expenses in California as being “business related” since you are living away from home? Or claiming to be an independent contractor when you are just being paid an hourly wage and never have any possibility of losing money on a project? That sort of cheating?

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 15:34:08

You don’t have the turbo tax I do. You do not KNOW MY CIRCUMSTANCES YOU NOSY WITCH. I am filing correctly and honestly. You don’t believe me - that’s your prerogative. I have to answer to background checks. They look at my forms. just BUTT OUT.

You DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE SCRIBBLING ABOUT.

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 16:11:10

Nor am I deducting any business expenses. I did so for the maximum amount of time I was allowed under IRS. That is 12 months. That ended in November 2009. I am a permanent resident of Arizona and a non-resident of California.

BUTT OUT OF MY LIFE AND STOP WRITING ABOUT SUBJECT YOU KNOW NOTHING OF.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 16:44:38

You don’t have the turbo tax I do.

LOL Is that you, TTTimmy?

 
Comment by polly
2010-03-29 17:31:56

I’m glad to hear you aren’t claiming bogus business deductions on your federal taxes anymore.

However, if California figures out that you fit their definition of a resident, they are going to expect you to pay California state taxes on that huge Roth IRA election you are making this year. Have fun waiting out the statute of limitations.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 17:42:32

You are very wrong. You DO NOT KNOW THE FTB rules nor the state of Arizona rules regarding residency/non-residency between THOSE TWO states.

WHY DO YOU INSIST ON PRETENDING TO KNOW?

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 17:44:04

As for the Roth, I know I will pay California taxes on it. You have slandered me for things I did not do in the past. You are PRESUMING I am planning to evade California taxes on the Roth conversion. I FOLLOW THE RULES. you do not have to.

You are more likely to be dishonest than me.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-03-29 20:17:39

If Bill really wanted to avoid state income taxes, he would have his primary residence in a no income tax state, like Nevada or Washington.

You really screwed this up, Bill. :)

I remember the year I filed income tax in 3 states. It is much easier to establish a primary residence and file in only one state when you are transient.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-30 07:27:43

I cannot avoid state income taxes when the highest paying long term jobs are in a high tax state. Also a recession is a bad time to jump ship just to pay fewer taxes. I’d have to prove myself again. I have more staying potential at my current California gig than to go to some other industry.

Polly is so arrogant that she is ignorant. She thinks she knows all tax laws in states where she never ever worked. I’m an engineer. I operate on precision, not assumptions. Polly assumes. That’s retarded.

California gives some tax credits to people who pay state income taxes in Arizona. Arizona does not give tax credit to people working in California. California gives NO tax credit to people working in states without income taxes. I pay the full state income taxes of Arizona. I pay some income taxes in California.

When I pay taxes on my Roth conversion, most of that money will count as ordinary income. I am converting all at once. My income this year (if I work to the end of the year) will thus total about $325,000. Arizona will tax that amount fully. California will give me credit for the Arizona tax but take some tax itself.

 
 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 15:58:38

It’s cheating when anyone else does it. Bill’s just refusing to support a corrupt regime. :wink:

(Easy there, Bill. Don’t raise your HDL. Take some algae and go for a power walk.)

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 16:58:34

I follow the rules AND I HAVE TO. I go through thorough background checks. Do you?. Neither you nor the witch Polly has to follow the rules.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 17:28:25

What does an atheist libertarian have against witches? (Not that I’m saying polly is one.)

Is it just me, or are these libertarians and Paulists around here a little…tightly wound? They sure don’t like being crossed or challenged. They should pursue more happiness.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 17:40:49

I don’t like being slandered.

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 19:02:23

Don’t dish it out if you can’t spoon it in.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Kim
2010-03-29 06:41:13

“I doubt a third of those on disability are are for real , they just tired of working .”

A relative of mine had an employee out on what seemed to be a fishy disability claim. Relative hired a private detective. The PI caught the employee on the roof of his house, hammering in new shingles. That was the end of that claim (though I don’t know if the company ever filed criminal charges).

Comment by Bad Chile
2010-03-29 07:22:09

Firefighter here in Boston a few years ago on full disability was filmed at bodybilding contests…had the guts to try and fight the implication he was gaming the system

 
Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 07:32:36

60 Minutes did a great expose on it years ago, showing ‘disabled’ NY city school custodians, cops, etc working on their sailboats, building stuff, playing tennis, jogging, etc.

 
Comment by mikeinbend
2010-03-29 12:52:28

It may seem strange, but people with significant disability are encouraged to remain as active as possible. Just because they are choosing life over armchair should not preclude the benefits in legitimate cases.
On the other hand Roofing? Better not be too disabled, lest ye break your neck and become really disabled. So the claim indeed is suspect given the difficulty of activity.

I know a quasi-disabled roofer by trade, although his disability is more of the mental kind.

Comment by Kim
2010-03-29 15:41:58

“people with significant disability are encouraged to remain as active as possible”

Absolutely. Which is why I’d rather see long term disability money divered to some kind of job retraining whenever possible.

DH and I have a friend who is paralyzed from the neck down, but utilizing a special computer set-up, he manages to remain gainfully employed. That’s a pretty extreme example, but he is the one I think of when I hear of all these folks collecting for “bad knees” and such.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 15:42:57

…people with significant disability are encouraged to remain as active as possible.

I can think of one close relative who fits that description to a tee.

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Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 18:38:58

People who are disabled should remain as active as possible, I agree. Conversely, people who play a mean game of singles tennis are, by definition, not physically disabled. And that’s what they were getting bennies for.

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Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 06:00:24

ITEM: “World markets rose and the euro strengthened Monday in the wake of the announcement of a eurozone aid plan for Greece, which the debt-ridden country followed up by planning a new bond issue.”
~Yahoo Financial News

~ Follow the reasoning here….Greece’s finances are in terrible shape because of too much debt. So, Greece is going to borrow lots more money by selling 7-year bonds and the world stock markets are rejoicing. Greece is just kicking the can down the road.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:38:01

Sounds like Greece is headed down California’s fiscal path…

 
 
Comment by packman
2010-03-29 06:06:57

Sorry if this was posted already, but I didn’t remember seeing it last week if so.

The CBO’s estimate of Obama’s proposed budget has the public debt 10 years out now as 90% of GDP - up from the CBO estimate of 67% just two months ago.

Keep in mind we’re only talking about the part of the debt held by the public - not the total debt. This report doesn’t project the total debt, but since previously it was projected at 95% of GDP 10 years out, now it presumably would be somewhere around 120%.

Also keep in mind this is against a backdrop of continual 4+% GDP growth - i.e. no double-dip or other recessions.

This will be our downfall - no doubt in my mind now.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-03-29 07:22:56

Once again the static analysis trap claims a victim.

Taxes are gonna go up, big time. Krautheimer says a VAT is in the bag. And no, it won’t replace the income tax, it will be in addition to the income tax.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 07:50:29

Absolutely.

Unfortunately that well is only so deep. Taxes were way higher pre-1980’s as well, but the well was a lot deeper then - we had an actual real strong economy back then and could afford the higher taxes, and thus were able to pay off our WWII debt OK (as such - at least as a percentage of GDP).

This time - not so much. If the government raises taxes like it did back then, it’ll completely wreck the economy.

Sure enough - they are. And certainly it will.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 08:02:01

“Taxes were way higher pre-1980’s…” “If the government raises taxes like it did back then, it’ll completely wreck the economy.”

Right on! The nature of the recent boom times is not compatiable with that higher tax environment. Especially when the real wage situation is factored in.

Fine pols, bring on your higher taxes - just don’t expect the tomorrow’s economy to resemble the boom times you are so desperately trying to revive. Are they really ready for the pain of the transition?

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Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:45:00

The same reasoning applies to the use of the printing press to create inflation. All the inflation and taxation will do is shift spending. This is like getting orange juice out of an orange that has gone through the juicer a couple dozen times.

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Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 09:47:52

The well is as deep as ever. The problem is that instead of 300 million folk dipping out of it, you have about 1.5 billion folk dipping out of it. The world is hot, flat, and crowded.

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Comment by packman
2010-03-29 10:50:39

It’s not a single well though. We used to dip significantly into China’s well - but now they’re telling us get your grimy hands out. At least for the last few months anyhow they have.

So - we resort to creating artificial water.

 
 
 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 07:53:35

Saving cash while I can! In the future it will be much harder to save big money with an across-the-board VAT like that.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 08:16:48

One would think America’s small business owners would be aware of your attitude (an attitude I share, btw). This isn’t exactly the kind of thing that will bring back the customers, so it is also not an incentive to add to their payrolls.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-03-29 09:16:11

Well, if you don’t spend it, it isn’t taxed, right?

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-03-29 09:11:45

This will be our downfall

But is idiotically hastening the inevitable necessarily bad?

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 09:40:23

That depends on your religious views.

Keep in mind I’m not talking about downfall as in “necessary correction”, which is what would have happened without the TARP, bailout, etc. - probably a nasty depression but relatively fast and something that we could survive and come out better (less debt, more responsibility) on the other side.

No, I’m talking real downfall - as in total, or near-total, breakdown of societal norms, our political structure (constitution etc.), and our economic structure (e.g. the US$) as a whole. The “U.S.A.” may still end up existing, but more as just a geographical entity.

IMO that’s probably an optimistic scenario at this point. The main unknown being the timeframe. My guess would be we have somewhere between 10 and 30 years left, at our current rate of decline. Hopefully longer, for my kids’ sake.

May we can somehow turn it around - it ain’t lookin’ good right now though.

 
 
 
Comment by cougar91
2010-03-29 06:18:58

If this is true (not saying it will play just like the article suggests), what does the HBB braintrust think about the much discusses ARM reset chart?

WSJ - 3/29/2010

The struggling housing market appears as if it will sustain less damage than expected this year from a spike in the monthly payments on hundreds of thousands of exotic adjustable-rate mortgages.

The number of such loans scheduled to adjust to higher payments this year has shrunk. Lower-than-expected interest rates, coupled with efforts to aggressively modify loans, are likely to mute payment shocks for some borrowers. Many others already have defaulted on their loans even before their payments adjusted upward.

“The peaks of the reset wave are melting very quickly because the delinquency and foreclosure rates on these are loans are already very high,” says Sam Khater, senior economist at First American CoreLogic.

The housing market still faces enormous challenges, and a full recovery is likely to take years. The threat posed by resetting payments, Mr. Khater says, is “a drop in the bucket” compared to problems posed by the sheer volume of borrowers who owe more than their homes are worth, known as being “under water.”

Still, for years, housing analysts have worried about the threat of an aftershock from a big spike in mortgage defaults from so-called option adjustable-rate mortgages, which require low minimum payments before resetting to sharply higher levels, and “interest-only” loans, for which no principal payments are due for several years.

Most option-ARM borrowers made minimal payments, so their loan balances grew. That sparked worries about what would happen when those loans “recast” and begin requiring full payments on larger loan balances, usually five years from when they were originated or when the balance reached a designated cap.

Option ARMs may be among the most likely to benefit from the White House plan, announced on Friday, to force banks to consider writing down loan balances when modifying mortgages. Until now, the administration’s Home Affordable Modification Program, or HAMP, has focused on lowering monthly payments by reducing interest rates and extending loan terms to 40 years.

A separate program could benefit borrowers who are current on their loans but under water by allowing investors to refinance those borrowers into loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration. Investors are most likely to refinance the riskiest loans that qualify.

The majority of option ARMs are set to recast over the next two years. But the volume of outstanding loans has fallen sharply because many borrowers, prior to facing higher payments, received modifications, refinanced or defaulted. Option ARM volume peaked at 1.05 million active loans in March 2006. At the end of last year, there were 580,000 loans outstanding, according to First American CoreLogic.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-03-29 06:43:20

Well if the loan modifications work to keep people in houses they could not originally afford, the point is that those are subsidies and no different than government-provided housing at the expense of taxpayers who are solvent on their mortgages or who have their homes paid off or are renting.

Injustice is injustice. The war on responsibility must be stopped or else we kill the incredible bread machine.

Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:51:51

The elite have decided that they don’t need the middle class anymore, they own the gov, and have outsourced manufacturing. They can now reap wealth by controlling natural resources and banking.

 
 
Comment by cougar91
2010-03-29 06:50:37

>“The peaks of the reset wave are melting very quickly because the delinquency and foreclosure rates on these are loans are already very high,” says Sam Khater, senior economist at First American CoreLogic.

This was the point I made numerous times on HBB… the default rate for these loans set to reset/recast in 2010-2012 was something like 50%+ already, thus I questioned the sudden spike in default so many were predicting. If most of these crazy loans were already in default, there is no default spike possible. And with more tax-payer subsidized loan modification via Fed printing presses, the impact is even less pronounced than originally thought.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 07:04:37

That article is very badly written. I contend that idea behind the Credit Suisse graph still holds.

They’re saying the loans aren’t going to reset because the FB already defaulted? That doesn’t invalidate the graph. All it does is to push the Credit Suisse curve a couple years sooner. After all, that’s what recast means: “start the default clock to T minus 6 months.” He’s right; the peaks are melting, not sublimating. So, WSJ, where is the water? The water ran down this side of the peak. You still have defaults. They are simply now, rather than later.

As for the Neg-ams, I must repeat my obligatory Oxide Q: Refinanced into WHAT? They already had an option ARM, I don’t even see how their payments could remain the same, much less go down. Were they the ones defaulting.

And STILL, what is the danger of being underwater if you can afford the payments? The danger is when you’re underwater, and your payments go up (i.e. recast as per the graph), and you can’t sell. Underwater alone isn’t a problem, unless you walk. (then it’s a problem for the bank.)

The wild card here is the job losses, which would indeed invalidate the graph. And, I’d like to know what the Primes are doing.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:12:10

I would tend to go with Credit Suisse as well. Their accuracy and analysis, while not perfect, is far better than most.

 
 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-03-29 08:16:15

I would think that a FB only defaults if it is to his advantage. Say I live in a house I bought for $1 million. Today that home is only worth $500K and I am $500K under water. Is it to my advantage to default? It depends on the monthly payment. If my payment is less or equal what it would cost to rent the place I would stay. If the payment is substantially higher than rent I would default.
So any info on average loan amount, equivalent rent and monthly payment would shed some light if most of those resets are currently defaulting or if the motherlode is still ahead.

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 15:23:45

This is kind of a funny news item. The writer notes epic high foreclosure rates, enough to cause FRE/FAN/FHA all to fail and cause the TARP bailouts and so many other toxic waste facilities to be opened. But hey, doesn’t look like a massive spike this week.

Meanwhile the extend and pretend strategy will be deflationary for years and years.

We’ve all heard about the defered principle modifications with ballon payments, ten year I/O loans and other people lving at the edge. Meanwhile these people will continue to default as soon as some stressor happens. No equity means high default rates.

This deflationary enviroment could really drag for the rest of my working lifetime. Easy to see it happen now.

Look at this. We are going to be seeing forced inventory showing up for at least a decade from today. Meanwhile the people living on the edge will default in slow stages as life events happen. Either job loss, divorce or illness. Meanwhile the pool of buyers will get smaller. Not to mention crushing taxes and stifling social programs on top of everything. While the baby boomers start dying in earnest.

Oye.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:20:56

The Fed appears to be winning its War on Savers, as recent increases in the U.S. household savings rate declining for the second straight month against the backdrop of rising personal consumption, stagnant income growth and a growing mountain of fiscal debt.

* MARCH 29, 2010, 9:08 A.M. ET

Consumer Spending Rises a Bit, but Incomes Stagnant

By JEFF BATER

U.S. consumers in February spent as expected even though their incomes didn’t budge amid high joblessness, while inflation stayed benign.

Personal income was flat compared to the prior month, the Commerce Department said Monday. Private wages and salaries posted a small increase of $2 billion, but proprietors’ income fell.

Personal spending increased by 0.3%. Consumer spending makes up 70% of demand in the U.S. economy.

Economists surveyed by Dow Jones Newswires forecast a 0.1% increase in income and a 0.3% increase in spending for February.

The saving rate slowed, as did a key gauge of inflation. The core price index for personal consumption expenditures, which excludes volatile food and energy, rose 1.3% compared to February 2009. It was 1.5%, year over year, in January 2010. The Fed checks the index for signs of inflationary pressure within the economy.

Monthly, the core index was flat in February compared to the prior month.

The PCE price index including food and energy prices also was unchanged in February compared to January and climbed 1.8% year over year.

With income flat, the saving rate in February was 3.1%, the smallest since October 2008. The rate was 3.4% in January and 4.0% in December.

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:41:58

The cash squeeze intensifies.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:46:59

You have a way of seeing every news release through a very narrow perspective. I am not trying to suggest I necessarily disagree with you. ;-)

Comment by combotechie
2010-03-29 06:57:09

I’ll change my perspective when there’s a change in the news. Right now the news is screaming deflation.

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:09:49

Despite all the headline screaming, I am still paying over $3/gallon for petrol — same as a few years back…and over $5 for a cheap bottle of table wine.

 
Comment by packman
2010-03-29 07:56:06

Right now the news is screaming deflation.

It’s only screaming wage deflation, is it not?

Not all deflations are created equal.

Spending increase, less savings = inflationary, not deflationary. Price-wise at least.

 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 07:58:23

Professor Bear, I suggest you get with the 2-buck Chuck at Trader Joe’s. Shaw has been buying grapes from top vineyards, as those vineyards are looking for any revenue possible from the drop in sales revenue of their fancy wine. Shaw has been getting better grapes.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 08:33:36

Wage deflation has been going on for decades. We just covered it with credit.

 
Comment by measton
2010-03-29 08:56:09

Wage deflation has been going on for decades. We just covered it with credit.

BINGO - People were less likely to notice the theft and decay of manufacturing if they could continue living well and felt their retirement was safe.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:16:24

The people (millions) who were affected by the dismantling of our manufacturing noticed. But they were shouted down by the “professional” class and told to retrain or outright, they were useless.

The very same professional class who thought it couldn’t happen to them.

Oops.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 10:30:48

“Professor Bear, I suggest you get with the 2-buck Chuck at Trader Joe’s. Shaw has been buying grapes from top vineyards, as those vineyards are looking for any revenue possible from the drop in sales revenue of their fancy wine. Shaw has been getting better grapes.”

Thanks — that happened in the early 2000s, as well (last time I regularly consumed 2-buck-Chuck). The tech stock crash did wonders for the quality of $2/bottle wine…

 
Comment by packman
2010-03-29 10:44:41

Wage deflation has been going on for decades. We just covered it with credit.

I would very much beg to agree.

Well - maybe not technically “wage deflation” perhaps, just that wage inflation hasn’t been keeping up with price inflation. IMO that chart is a pretty good measure of exactly that delta.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:32:18

A simple Excel sheet will show that wages have NOT kept up for most people. Not anywhere close.

If you were making 25k in 1981, you now have to make 60K to have the same buying power, based on 3% inflation each year.

Real min wage would be $8hr, not $7.

Anybody here believe inflation was ONLY 3% per year since 1981? You should see the numbers based on 4-5%. 100K to equal 25K in 1980 dollars.

$100,000. J6P will never see that kind of money.

 
Comment by pmseatac
2010-03-29 11:35:45

Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 07:58:23
Professor Bear, I suggest you get with the 2-buck Chuck at Trader Joe’s. Shaw has been buying grapes from top vineyards, as those vineyards are looking for any revenue possible from the drop in sales revenue of their fancy wine. Shaw has been getting better grapes.

Can you really get it there for only $2.00 ? Where I live it is $2.99 and is called “three buck Chuck’s”.

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 15:37:41

PB and company,

You take a stricktly monetary viewpoint not to get fooled by prices and other short term manipulation or money flows.

So, we could see rising prices in some sectors but the overall economy contracting.

Agreeing with everyone on the deflation of wages. Been happening for a long long time. Personally as one of those high tech guys who screamed retrain at people it was more of a “every man for himself” kind of cry. That and desperation move to save who you could. Increasing I get the feeling of being on a submarine heading for crush depth though. Water squeezing the air out. We are all going die in short order. I don’t know if it mattered all that much that I got to think about for an extra couple of minutes. Kind of like sailors not knowing how to swim.

 
 
 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 07:28:14

Gasoline prices have been rising - does that show up in the personal spending. If so, this is all BS. Gasoline prices - they count towards economic activity, but not towards inflation - pffft.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:27:35

The good news: Like subprime earlier, ARM resets are contained, thanks to owners who were scheduled for ARM resets instead going into foreclosure.

The bad news: Someone at the WH leaked out the news over the weekend that there may be upwards of 10 million additional U.S. foreclosures on the way over through 2013.

The really bad news: Uncle Sam’s press releases tend to downplay the likely severity of future problems.

* REAL ESTATE
* MARCH 29, 2010

Mortgage Increases Blunted

By NICK TIMIRAOS

The struggling housing market appears as if it will sustain less damage than expected this year from a spike in the monthly payments on hundreds of thousands of exotic adjustable-rate mortgages.

The number of such loans scheduled to adjust to higher payments this year has shrunk. Lower-than-expected interest rates, coupled with efforts to aggressively modify loans, are likely to mute payment shocks for some borrowers. Many others already have defaulted on their loans even before their payments adjusted upward.

The peaks of the reset wave are melting very quickly because the delinquency and foreclosure rates on these are loans are already very high,” says Sam Khater, senior economist at First American CoreLogic.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:45:20

This story brings to mind my hapless uncle. After early success with a lucrative career in medical research, he succumbed to the bottle. He lost his career, his beautiful family and his home. He ultimately quit drinking, after landing on skid row, only to discover within a year of swearing off alcohol that his lifelong smoking habit had resulted in terminal lung cancer.

What did it matter that he stopped drinking, given that lung cancer was about to consume him anyway?

Related question: What is the difference if a homeowner loses their home because of an ARM reset or a foreclosure? They still lose the home in either case.

Comment by Al
2010-03-29 08:30:31

They’re trying to create the illusion that the worst is behind us, as in the defaults have already happened. They neglect to mention that many of the defaulted loans haven’t been foreclosed.

 
Comment by Lip
2010-03-29 09:40:09

“What is the difference if a homeowner loses their home because of an ARM reset or a foreclosure? They still lose the home in either case.”

Or, Is it better to:
1) Be a slave to your house payment or
2) Mail in the keys and start all over?

I’m beginning to think #2 will be the answer for ++10m.

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 15:44:17

My thought is the government will also over estimate the problems durring the recovery and make stupid choices there as well.

So, I think we are halfway through the crisis from a cost standpoint.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-03-29 16:29:23

“What did it matter that he stopped drinking, given that lung cancer was about to consume him anyway?”

He proved to himself that he wasn’t a worthless drunk.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 18:57:53

On the other hand, he died about as quickly as he would have if he had never ceased drinking, and perhaps less happy to boot.

Similarly, those who avoid their ARM resets by first going into foreclosure or sending jingle mail will nonetheless still leave behind a vacant or resold home.

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Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-03-29 20:46:09

And I think if I got lung cancer, I would eat every bad thing that I have been denying myself.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 06:34:39

Mortgage Plan Tries to Mitigate an Unemployment Problem That the Administration Just Worsened ~NRO 3-26-10

An early point about the Obama administration’s new plan to help homeowners by forcing banks and lenders to reduce monthly mortgage payments to 31 percent of income, usually unemployment insurance:

As noted in several places, the new health-care bill has already made the cost of employees more expensive and taken away capital that could otherwise have been used to hire workers.

Farm-equipment manufacturer John Deere “said it expects its expenses to rise by around $150 million on an after-tax basis, mainly in the second quarter, as a result of the legislation.”

Verizon “told employees in an email Tuesday that Verizon’s costs will go up in the near term, pinpointing a tax-subsidy reduction for retiree health benefits.”

Heavy-equipment manufacturer Caterpillar “said that its first-quarter earnings will be hit with a $100 million after-tax charge under tax law changes attached to the new health care reform legislation.”

AK Steele Holding Corp., “the third largest U.S. steelmaker by sales, said it will record a non-cash charge of about $31 million resulting from the health-care overhaul signed into law by President Barack Obama. The charge will be recorded in the first quarter of 2010.”

Valero Energy “will take a $15 million to $20 million charge to second-quarter earnings for the same reason.”

Medical-device maker Medtronic “warned that new taxes on its products could force it to lay off a thousand workers.”

If you want to reduce unemployment, stop passing legislation that kicks the snot out of employers.

Comment by cactus
2010-03-29 08:34:21

If you want to reduce unemployment, stop passing legislation that kicks the snot out of employers.

I read that the health care bill saves the goverment billions. It makes sense a broke government will pass bills that make others pay for it’s promises ,it gets re-elected and others help pay.

but yes it will probably cause higher unemployment and shortages of products just like other Countries with strong central control

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 10:41:46

If you want to reduce unemployment, stop passing legislation that kicks the snot out of employers.

All the more reason to decouple health insurance from employment. After all, this is already the case with homeowner’s, renters, auto, and life insurance.

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:27:42

Little known fact: the new health plan is almost exactly the same as one endorsed by the Heritage Foundation in 2003.

Yes, THAT far right, neocon, Heritage Foundation.

This was noted by Paul Krugman and both can be googled.

The current maneuverings by the large corporations are just them gaming the system. In other words, business as usual.

In the end, they will be saving money as the ever rising prices of medical insurance are finally brought under control.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 11:05:16

Good find.

An excellent illustration of the chasm between “neocon” and libertarianism.

 
 
 
Comment by cobaltblue
2010-03-29 06:42:59

Where Did The Income Go?
It appears that the Federal Tit Pump is running out of power…

Personal income increased $1.2 billion, or less than 0.1 percent, and disposable personal income (DPI) increased $1.6 billion, or less than 0.1 percent, in February, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis. Personal consumption expenditures (PCE) increased $34.7 billion, or 0.3 percent.

Oh boy, now the $1.3 trillion in additional deficit spending is no longer contributing to personal income! That’s not so positive - indeed, it’s not positive at all.

Private wage and salary disbursements increased $2.0 billion in February, compared with an increase of $16.6 billion in January. Goods-producing industries’ payrolls decreased $3.5 billion, in contrast to an increase of $5.2 billion; manufacturing payrolls decreased $1.4 billion, in contrast to an increase of $5.0 billion. Services-producing industries’ payrolls increased $5.5 billion, compared with an increase of $11.4 billion.

Goods down…. uh, where’s our so-called economic recovery?

Proprietors’ income decreased $6.1 billion in February, the same decrease as in January. Farm proprietors’ income decreased $7.1 billion, the same decrease as in January. Nonfarm proprietors’ income increased $1.0 billion, the same increase as in January.

Very little change in proprietor’s income ex farming, but farmer income is down significantly.

Rental income of persons increased $2.2 billion in February, compared with an increase of $1.9 billion in January. Personal income receipts on assets (personal interest income plus personal dividend income) decreased $16.5 billion, the same decrease as in January.

Rents up a bit, but dividends are down huge, continuing a trend. This is not positive at all, and implies that assets are being sold to continue lifestyle choices. This leads to a question that has begun to gnaw at me: Have we begun to cross into where boomers start pulling funds out of asset classes to live on?

Personal current transfer receipts increased $16.6 billion in February, compared with an increase of $29.8 billion in January. The January change reflected the Making Work Pay Credit provision of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which boosted January receipts by $19.8 billion. The Act provides for a refundable tax credit of up to $400 for working individuals and up to $800 for married taxpayers. When an individual’s tax credit exceeds the taxes owed, the refundable tax credit payment is classified as “other” government social benefits to persons.

Government to the rescue! $45 billion worth in the last two months, to be specific. That’s a direct $270 billion in handouts, or 2% of GDP - and that’s only the direct handouts! So subtract that off GDP and….. (oh, and don’t forget the rest of the $1.3 trillion too.)

Nothing to see here folks, as in “no evidence of sustainability in the recovery.” We have a government that continues to “prime the pump” but there’s no water at the bottom of the well to generate self-sustaining economic growth.

(From K. Denninger)

Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-03-29 16:35:50

“Have we begun to cross into where boomers start pulling funds out of asset classes to live on?”

I think this has been happening for a while. Home equity extraction was just one symptom of this.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-03-29 06:52:40

What I want to know is, where did all the people come from, and what do they DO?

I’m referring to my neck of the woods, South Hillsborough County, outside of Tampa, Florida. As I mentioned in yesterday’s Florida thread, the development was explosive and massive, due to the fact that there was so much empty land in this formerly rural, semi-rural area. Along with the houses, seems like the poplulation increased dramatically as well, along with the traffic, which used to be non-existent and which sucks profusely now.

But where the hell did all the people come from? Why did they come? What for? They can’t all be commuting to Tampa. I know what the Section 8ers do and how they do it, but they couldn’t possibly account for all the population increase. I don’t get what the attraction is around here. I get it even less now that it has been made so ugly.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-03-29 07:02:55

palmetto
This is none of my business, but did you have an accident or something just a terrible? I caught a post of yours yesterday, that got me concerned for your wellbeing. Are you alright?

You mentioned immobility. I’ve been there from a fall down stairs. It took months to walk again.

Comment by palmetto
2010-03-29 07:11:03

Hey, wipeout, thanks for asking. Yeah, I had a little setback, but I’m OK, just a tad restricted at the moment, something similar to your situation. I don’t like to get into these things online. It kills me to even bring up the subject, but I had to let TCM guy know why I couldn’t get together with him. Didn’t want him to think I was ignoring his post. In spirit I’m just as ornery as ever! You and TCM guy are tops!

Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 09:51:34

Feel better soon! :-)

If you’re ever in our neck of the woods and want to do a meet-up, we can come to you.

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-03-29 12:52:06

palmetto
Well gosh,I hope you’re healing ok. Sorry to hear you got a boo-boo. It’s injuries like ours, that make you have gratitude for mobility, limbs, life, and laughs. I’ll send some healing dust your way. Get Better Soon!
Warmly,
Wipeout Gal

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:31:48

Palmetto, many are fleeing the economically dead and dying northeast environs and overpriced regions like CA.

The rule is, if you have to be poor, it’s better to be poor where it’s not freezing cold. You have a better chance of surviving.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 06:58:08

Quick — get in line for Shitti stock sales. They are sure to sell like hot cakes when the Treasury unloads their gobzillion shares.

March 29, 2010, 9:39 a.m. EDT

Treasury plans to sell 7.7 billion Citigroup shares in 2010
U.S. government plans to sell shares based on a “pre-arranged’ trading plan

By Ronald D. Orol, MarketWatch

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - The Treasury Department plans to sell 7.7 billion shares of Citigroup Inc. (C 4.34, +0.03, +0.64%) common stock throughout 2010 based on a “pre-arranged” plan, according to a statement from the agency Monday.

The Treasury Department received the shares as part of a U.S. government investment in Citigroup that took place near the peak of the financial crisis that shook the economy to the brink in 2008. The U.S. government injected billions into Citigroup and other financial institutions as part of a $700 billion bank bailout.

According to the release, the Treasury department intends to begin its sale of the shares based on a pre-arranged written trading plan, but did not indicate what that plan might be except to say that the sales will be dependent on “a number of factors.”

Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 07:07:46

“Sell in May and walk away.” Hope the gov is smart enough to do that. Who else predicts that the pump will run dry conveniently after the 2012 election?

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-03-29 08:33:42

That tactic sure didn’t work last year (2009). Those who sold in May missed the major part of the runup after the March low.

 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 08:41:09

Pump and dump ,nature of many markets . Is there anything about the government or Feds owning stock in private Companies that is objectionable ,or how about the government/Feds owning toxic debt worth a fraction of the face value ,or making loans on debt at face value
when its secured by debt worth a fraction of that face value .

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:33:38

It’s a scary thought that there is so much bad Level 3 assets that even the government couldn’t absorb it all.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 13:39:15

Isn’t $500m like chump change to a Wall Street megabank?

MarketWatch First Take

March 29, 2010, 11:02 a.m. EDT

Will investors beat a path out of Citi before Uncle Sam?
Commentary: Treasury’s plan will dilute Citigroup, as ‘bad bank’ lingers

By MarketWatch

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Pity the Citigroup Inc. shareholder.
C 4.15, -0.03, -0.72%

Just as the stock appeared to be slowly trudging higher — edging up to $4.33 from $3.31 at the end of 2009 — the Treasury Department has to go and announce that it will attempt to sell this year the 7.7 billion shares it holds, an amount equating to more than a third of Citigroup’s 20.8 billion share float and a quarter of its 28.5 billion shares outstanding. See report on the Treasury’s announcement.

The early indication — Citi shares fell more than 1% in trading early Monday — is that investors aren’t too thrilled with the potential dilution. But there’s more: Citigroup (C 4.15, -0.03, -0.72%) still must dispose of more than $500 million in questionable assets that it housed in its so called “bad bank” — Citi Holdings.

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 07:17:44

TaxWatch
March 26, 2010, 2:47 p.m. EDT
Mind the pitfalls in claiming home-buyer tax break

By Eva Rosenberg, MarketWatch

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) — The federal government is doling out as much as $8,000 to people who bought a home recently. Sounds simple, right? But collecting on that money isn’t proving to be all that straightforward for some taxpayers.

You already know there are two different credits, right? They’re both worth 10% of the purchase price of the home, up to $8,000 for first-time home buyers who have not owned a home for the last three years and up to $6,500 for people who’ve owned before, as long as they owned a home and lived in it for at least five years out eight, consecutively.

Here are some of the common problems cropping up.

Owners in name only

A young couple doesn’t qualify for a mortgage, or for a decent interest rate, because they’re too young to have a credit history. So Mom and Dad qualify for the mortgage and buy the home. That’s a dilemma encountered by some clients of Marlene DeBoisblanc, an enrolled agent in Westlake Village, Calif.

The couple lives in the home and makes all the mortgage payments. Mom and Dad own a home and don’t plan to move, so the parents don’t qualify for either credit. Does the couple qualify?

Yes. They may claim the full $8,000, according to Melvin Kreger, a tax attorney and enrolled agent in North Hollywood, Calif. The young couple is considered an equitable owner. Clearly, the intention has always been for this to be their home. This situation crops up all the time when someone has bad credit or no credit.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 07:41:13

How did families ever get started before the era of Boomer parents taking out HELOCs on the homestead to the kids a headstart? Did free houses just magically appear? Did aliens build Abe Lincoln’s log cabin?

And notice how no one questions if these people should even be in a house, even after all this houseownership is still viewed as a right.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:39:44

Parents helping their children is as old as mankind.

Only the poor or Scrooge stingy don’t.

You mean parents aren’t supposed to help their children? Think what you will, but the advantage ALWAYS goes to the children who are helped by their parents. Whether they screwed it up or not is another story.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 11:06:18

Yeah, I should narrow my comment to the HELOC thing, that was new this time around. Before that parents actually had to have wealth to impart it on their kids - this cycle they borrowed that “wealth”.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:35:18

Yes.

 
 
Comment by packman
2010-03-29 11:08:13

Yes, though it depends on the nature of the help - i.e. handouts vs hand-ups.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:38:21

Exactly.

 
 
 
 
Comment by polly
2010-03-29 11:11:36

From irs.gov:

Because of the documentation requirements for claiming the credit, taxpayers who claim the credit on their 2009 tax return must file a paper — not electronic — return and attach Form 5405, First-Time Homebuyer Credit and Repayment of the Credit (see the instructions for help with the form), and a properly executed copy of a settlement statement used to complete the purchase.

Purchasers of conventional homes should include a copy of Form HUD-1, Settlement Statement, or other settlement statement, showing all parties’ names, property address, sales price and date of purchase.

Purchasers of mobile homes who are unable to get a settlement statement should include a copy of the executed retail sales contract showing all parties’ names, property address, purchase price and date of purchase.

Purchasers of newly constructed homes where a settlement statement is not available should include a copy of the certificate of occupancy showing the owner’s name, property address and date of the certificate.

Sounds like Mr. Kreger is lying through his teeth. How did the kids get on HUD-1 Form if they didn’t buy the house in their own names?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 07:26:36

OTB halts pay for executives, consultants in wake of massive layoffs
Off-Track Betting pink slips 1,300 workers
DAILY NEWS

Off-Track Betting Corp. officials pulled the reins on consultant and executive compensation Saturday after fielding questions from the Daily News about the payments.

The announcement that the higher-ups won’t be paid until the organization is stabilized came one day after the bankrupt OTB sent pink slips to 1,350 workers.

“Until a compromise is forged that saves these jobs, we will suspend our pay,” the city’s OTB President Raymond Casey said in a statement.

But a budget document obtained by the News shows that OTB at one point planned to dole out hefty pay to consultants trying to save the organization, which is threatening to shutter 66 parlors.

Four consultants - two with ties to Chairman Meyer (Sandy) Frucher - and two law firms stood to make an estimated $4.5 million through June, the budget document shows.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:46:19

Consultants?

Tony, Guido and the mayor are NOT going to be happy. :lol:

 
 
Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 07:28:13

So I continue to be a renter for now. Inspection turned up item after item after item. The short list includes termites, questionable issues with the sewer line, need new heater and AC, need new windows sooner rather than later (~20 total), deck bolts are insufficient and need replaced, retaining wall in backyard will need replaced within a year or two, draining issues on property - need regraded and gutters cleaned/repaired/possibly diverted underground via trench, driveway shot and needs replacing, insulation hanging/tattered/needs replacing, and other things here and there and there and there. Essentially, you have a 60 year old house that the current owner lived in for 26 years and did little to no maintenance on.

After all that, we get into the cosmetics (which is what I knew going in needed to be done). That list is substantial. That list plus all the things found in inspection no longer make the house worth what I offered. Seller has no room to go lower, so deal is off.

I didn’t disclose the $$ on here before, but here it is. House was originally listed at $260K. Dropped almost immediately to $255K. I offered $235K, they countered at $249K. I upped to $240K, they countered 3 more times (247, 245, 243), I stayed put. We agreed to $240K. At that price, I felt I was probably overpaying 10-15% by the time the whole housing debacle shakes out, but was ok with it thinking the house didn’t need much more than cosmetic work.

They asked me to submit, in writing, a revised offer based on the inspection findings (even though they said seller has absolutely no room to budge price-wise), but I decided not to do that because I was considering going down to $220K, even though in my head I was thinking this house is worth no more than $200K. Decided to walk. In addition to all the work needing to be done, I wouldn’t even be able to get in to do anything until they move out at the end of June (they want to rent back from buyer) and I would probably not be moving in until late July or August.

So I’m out $625 for inspection (including termite and radon). I haven’t even gotten the radon report yet! But better to lose that than get trapped in a money pit.

What kills me is there was a house a few doors up from there that I was just about to go look at before she accepted my offer. Same kind of house, but had newer windows and heater plus a garage and was sitting empty. Was listed for $255K. Not sure what it sold for, but it’s under contract and they settle in April. I could have possibly been living there in a month. Crap.

Comment by oxide
2010-03-29 07:36:24

I admire your strength. That $625 inspection saved you a LOT of money. Take your kid somewhere nice for dinner to celebrate.

(no really, this is one of Suze Orman’s ideas. If you think you want a house, put the difference between rent and PITI in the savings account for a year. If you can afford it, great! If you can’t afford it, that’s okay, use a little of the savings to go to dinner to congratulate yourself for being wise.)

Comment by WHYoung
2010-03-29 10:36:22

Think budgeting as if you are already paying for a house and banking the savings is a great idea. Don’t forget to also include taxes and all other costs associated.

Great way to build up a redecorating or remodeling fund.

 
 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 08:22:39

Someone needs to start a website or an add-on to Zillow where people can put a notification for a physical address that they have an inspection of a certain date and type in hand, so as to recover some of the price of the inspection by sharing it with other interested parties.

Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 08:27:11

Good idea. I agreed to share the entire 37-page inspection report with the seller. She now has the information and, when she puts the house back up on the market, should be including in the seller’s disclosure (at least the age of the heater / AC and the termites). Wonder if she will.

Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-03-29 09:38:07

You should have recovered some of your costs!~

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Comment by The_Overdog
2010-03-29 08:23:19

Sounds like my house, except that mine was only $150k, not $250k. However, my heater & AC unit work great, and instead of termites, it’s carpenter ants.

Just did gutters this weekend. They were cheap and pretty easy.
But every weekend it’s something. Drainage issues are fun! I tell myself digging with a pick axe is good for stress reduction and exercise.

The windows are still terrible, but a healthy dose of caulk and they’ll be there for a while.

However it’s not all bad. We recently had it appraised for a refi and it’s up $60k in 1 year. But remember if you wanna buy a fixer, you better enjoy fixing.

Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 08:28:38

I’d have gone for it at $150K. Not a chance it will sell for that.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-03-29 08:26:49

So I’m out $625 for inspection (including termite and radon). I haven’t even gotten the radon report yet! But better to lose that than get trapped in a money pit.

I hope you walked through the properties with these inspectors. You can do about 90% of what they do yourself - at least be able to give an initial go/no-go on properties before you bring in professionals.

In either case - money well spent.

Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 08:30:38

I absolutely stayed with the inspector and will have a keener eye for certain things in future searches. A very enlightening process, for sure.

Comment by exeter
2010-03-29 20:29:27

You’re fortunate you found what appears to be a competent inspector. Most of these guys have so little training, lack integrity and are take the money and run types right from the get-go.

If you really want the house, take the punchlist and work with someone competent to place a dollar value on each remedial task and deducted that from the agreed upon price and make that your final offer. I do much the same with contractors every day. It’s just a matter of numbers. Nothing personal. Just the facts.

Structural defects are the high dollar cost defects that are most obvious even to the untrained. Substantial cracks in concrete, differential settlement of subgrade, wows and bows in beams, floors or slabs out of level, walls out of plumb, etc. Always sight down the length of walls, inside and outside. Tell tale signs of deception are freshly finished basements, fresh paint over drywall(corners), etc. If possible, schedule inspection during a rain event.

All defects are leverage, ALWAYS.

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-03-29 08:36:50

The work you describe, including the cosmetic stuff, could easily run to $100K total. Be glad you bailed.

 
Comment by cactus
2010-03-29 08:40:59

So I’m out $625 for inspection (including termite and radon). I haven’t even gotten the radon report yet! But better to lose that than get trapped in a money pit.”

that was money well spent

 
Comment by Bad Chile
2010-03-29 08:54:14

What kills me is there was a house a few doors up from there that I was just about to go look at before she accepted my offer. Same kind of house, but had newer windows and heater plus a garage and was sitting empty. Was listed for $255K. Not sure what it sold for, but it’s under contract and they settle in April. I could have possibly been living there in a month. Crap.

Either that or the buyer didn’t get an inspection. :-)

 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-03-29 13:08:06

eastcoaster
Sorry to hear about the “money pit” inspection, eastcoaster gal, but evidently this seller was a piece of work. You’ve got the spunk to find the right house. We’re here to lean on.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 07:42:10

Moth forces wine country’s secret into the open ~ Associated Press

FRESNO, California — One of the dirty secrets of California’s wine country is now on everyone’s lips.

Somehow a voracious grape-eating moth has found its way nonstop from Europe to the heart of the Napa Valley, the land of three-figure cabernet. With valuable fruit at risk, the region’s fast and loose play with federal agriculture quarantine laws is getting new scrutiny from investigators and researchers.

Suitcase smuggling is the winked-at act of sneaking in cane cuttings to clone vines from France’s premier vineyards, hoping to replicate success. Vintners say it helped build a handful of exceptional vineyards in the 1980s when U.S. plant choices were limited and import testing took seven years.

As California clamps a quarantine across the heart of Napa Valley and farmers ready their pesticides, nobody is winking anymore. A new Napa reality is setting in_ that lax attitudes invite costly invasions of new pests that can threaten the country’s most expensive and economically productive farmland.

“There are people who continue to spin their tales of smuggled plant material. People like a story with a glass of wine, and what that tends to do is legitimize behavior that not only threatens the industry, it’s illegal,” said Greg Clark, deputy agricultural commissioner for Napa County. “Knock it off.”

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:51:44

A good example of why regulations are necessary.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 11:20:56

Yes. IMO this is a good example of a “tragedy of the commons” case that warrants government regulation.

I lived in Sonoma county, and know about things like this - the glassy-winged sharpshooter was a huge deal for years, and a big problem, requiring tons of tracking and quarantining, and did a lot of damage.

It’s in every vineyard’s best interest to prevent this, but unfortunately one bad person or vineyard can screw it up for the rest of them.

Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 12:57:22

packman,

Were you in Sonoma County during the mediterranean fruit fly infestation?

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Comment by packman
2010-03-29 13:02:51

That was in the 80’s wasn’t it? I was there ‘97 into ‘06.

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 15:51:05

Yes it was the 80’s.

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-03-29 19:59:29

I was in San Mateo County then. Local produce was dirt cheap. We had to get up on the roof to strip all of the plums off of the trees.

My husband wanted to sell “Save the Medfly” t-shirts. :)

 
 
 
Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-03-29 13:02:35

A good example of why regulations are necessary.

Looks to me like a good example of why they’re ineffective.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 14:05:02

No regs would have meant complete and permanent destruction or so much pest control as to make it unprofitable.

You really, REALLY don’t want a regulation free, world. Think anti-freeze in your tooth paste. Rocket fuel in your baby’s formula. And these are just recent examples brought about by a certain lax federal agency due to massive funding cutbacks in the name of “free markets.”

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Comment by krazy bill
2010-03-29 14:05:49

The Anarchist Ammon Hennacy once told a judge in Phoenix, AZ: “Oh, judge, your damn laws: the good people don’t need them and the bad people don’t follow them, so what good are they?”

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 15:18:35

How’d that work out for him? :lol:

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 08:04:52

Mob Museum’ to open in Las Vegas

LAS VEGAS, March 26 (UPI) — Several exhibits for a planned Las Vegas “Mob Museum” scheduled to open in 2011 were unveiled Thursday amid controversy, observers say.

City leaders have been criticized for dedicating public resources to a museum, officially known as the Las Vegas Museum of Organized Crime and Law Enforcement, which celebrates organized crime, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

City officials hope it will be an economic boon for downtown Las Vegas and anticipate it pulling in from 250,000 to 600,000 visitors a year, the newspaper said.

“This is one of the most anticipated museum projects in the world,” Dennis Barrie, the museum’s creative director, said. “It is really a topic that evokes true interest with the American public, with museum people, with all sorts of people.”

Renderings of three planned exhibits, “Mob Mayhem,” “The Skim” and “Bringing Down the Mob,” were unveiled.

Barrie acknowledged the displays and subject matter would create debate, the Review-Journal said.

“There’ll be controversy in this museum,” Barrie said. “If there’s not, we’re not doing our job.”

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-03-29 08:25:44

“Bringing Down the Mob,”

??????

I thought it just moved to the east coast? (specifically the southern tip of an enchanted little isle)

 
Comment by SV guy
2010-03-29 09:35:16

I’m especially looking forward to the “Federal Reserve” exhibit.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 11:22:17

You can see it - but will you live to tell about it?

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:52:53

+1 to both youse guys. :lol:

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 08:20:27

Hampton Roads Bankshares misses 10-K filing deadline
Triangle Business Journal - b

Hampton Roads Bankshares (Nasdaq: HMPR), owner of the five-branch Gateway franchise in the Triangle, has notified the U.S. Securities & Exchange Commission that it was unable to meet a March deadline for filing the company’s annual report, or 10-K, for 2009.

“The deterioration of the economy in general, as well the real estate markets in which the company conducts its business specifically, have resulted in additional accounting complexities and disclosures …” the bank says it told the SEC in explaining for the delay.

The bank’s deadline for the filing was March 16.

In the notice to regulators, bank managers also explained that they were performing a detailed review of their loan portfolio to determine whether adjustments were needed in loan loss provisions, were analyzing possible goodwill impairments and were undertaking various actions designed to improve the bank’s capital position.

 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 08:23:55

eastcoaster.
Why owners think they can get top dollar for a house they didn’t maintain is beyond me ,even if it’s in a good area . At the same time sales people like to downplay the cost of repairs . Whats funny is that show on TV where some sales person or designer attempts to state what you will get back in return if you invest in this or that improvement (My House Is Worth What ).

Really ,it’s kind of insulting when they tell you that you will get 70% back on the dollar spent or 90% (before the crash the idea was that you would make 500% on improvements being a flipper ).There are so many factors that come into play on what you will get that it’s not a simple analysis . Why anyone would be motivated to make a improvement based on getting 60 % back on the dollar is another strange byproduct of these strange hype shows and these strange times .
Funny seeing the homeowners nod on these programs like wow
that a good deal .Unless your staying very long term and the improvement is for your own specific needs ,improvements can end up being a costly mistake in terms of what you net out ,contrary to what you could net out in a mania market .

Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 08:34:53

At the same time sales people like to downplay the cost of repairs .

Completely agree. If there were only a few issues, I’d have gone through with it. But it was like the proverbial snowball headed down a hill.

Will be most curious to see what it ends up selling for.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 10:54:02

I had to shop for 2 years for my last house.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 08:32:26

Thanks Sheila, I’m sure we have plenty more “innovation” heading our way…

FDIC Getting Innovative in Sales of Failed Banks: Bair
29 Mar 2010 By: Reuters

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp is experimenting with different structures for its sales of failed banks, as the economy recovers and commercial real estate is increasingly a driver of collapses, the head of the agency said Monday.

FDIC Chairman Sheila Bair said the agency is exploring securitizing failed bank assets and other techniques to drum up interest in troubled banks and to ensure the FDIC gets the maximum return.

“We want to get a little more innovative,” Bair said at a Women in Finance Symposium at the Treasury Department.

 
Comment by cactus
2010-03-29 08:47:03

NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks rose Monday after an increase in consumer spending boosted confidence in the economy.

The Dow Jones industrial average rose 45 points in morning trading. Broader indexes also climbed.

The Commerce Department said consumer spending rose for the fifth consecutive month in February, matching economists’ expectations.

Job creation and healthy consumer spending are considered keys to a sustained recovery. At the end of the week, investors will get the Labor Department’s monthly employment report, which is expected to show employers added jobs this month for only the second time since the recession began in December 2007.

well what do you know ? will it last with higher taxes next year ?

 
Comment by eastcoaster
2010-03-29 09:42:23

Get this! I just spoke to my realtor (gave him the signed form to get out of the agreement) and he said the sellers refused to accept my inspection report. Thus, they don’t have to disclose any of it. Unreal. My realtor said he’s going to insist they at least take the termite inspector’s report.

People cannot be trusted. Hope the next potential buyer has a good inspector.

Comment by Al
2010-03-29 10:01:14

After it appears that the house has sold, drop a copy of your report in the mailbox. It might not stop the sale, but it’ll sure bugger up the dishonest seller.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:13:51

Wow.

And that is why you ALWAYS have an inspection done.

 
Comment by Kim
2010-03-29 11:22:33

“the sellers refused to accept my inspection report. Thus, they don’t have to disclose any of it.”

Wow. That should be illegal.

Comment by alpha-sloth
2010-03-29 15:13:06

I think it’s pretty much SOP. If they know about problems with the property, then they are legally required to disclose them. If they don’t know, then, legally, they don’t have anything to disclose. That’s why in general, the sellers will not demand to know why you’re backing out after an inspection. Unless they and their RE agent are idiots. (Which is, of course, possible.) Or they want to know about the problems so they can fix them, which is even less likely.

 
 
Comment by bink
2010-03-29 14:09:35

One of the many giant red flags that led me to this blog years and years ago was the prohibition on inspections for many properties for sale in the DC area. How anyone felt comfortable buying houses back then I’ll never know.

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2010-03-29 14:11:57

I find it amazing in your post above how they were arguing over a few thousand dollars. Do you want to sell the house or not? I admire your perseverance through that. And then it comes to pass they were withholding information pertinent to the sale. They’ll be lucky to get $200k. Keep us posted, please.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 09:45:38

Bears Are Dead Wrong: S&P Will Reach 1,300 by Year’s End, Altucher Says
Mar 29, 2010 by Heesun Wee in Investing, Recession

As the market continues its climb of 70 percent-plus off the lows, and the gap widens between the housing and stock markets, the bears are convinced of a downturn — any day now. But our guest James Altucher, managing partner of Formula Capital, disagrees.

“The bears have been consistently wrong throughout this whole rally,” Altucher tells Aaron in the accompanying clip. “If you followed the bears’ advice at the bottom you’d be dead broke right now.” For full disclosure, Altucher did not call the market crash in 2008. “Better to be consistently bullish than consistently bearish.”

Altucher points to the common arguments the bears make — and why they’re wrong:

Lots of homes are in foreclosure or under water: That’s true but there are bright spots in housing data including the Case-Shiller reports, Altucher notes. That housing index has been up the past six months, suggesting prices are stabilizing, he adds.

All the growth we’re seeing is just inventory rebuild. Businesses cleared their inventory in anticipation of the 2010 Great Depression that never happened. Now businesses are scrambling to restock, spurring growth in the economy that’s likely to last for one to two years at least. “People are going to be surprised how fast and furious this inventory rebuild is going to happen,” Altucher says.

Unemployment is 9.7%.Yes but other jobs data show a rise in part-time hours, hourly pay, hours per week, and number of temporary workers. And these are all precursors to gains in fulltime jobs, Altucher explains.

“Before this is fully over we’re going to see new all-time highs again. And I do think that we’re going to see 1,300 by the end of the year on the S&P,” Altucher says.

Comment by 2banana
2010-03-29 10:03:29

Did he mention that stocks we on a permanent high “plateau?”

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 10:23:23

These Days (Mon.-Thurs. 9-11 a.m. on 89.5 FM)
Sorting Out Prop 13’s Impact On Education

An audio recording of this interview will be posted here within a few hours of the live broadcast. A transcript will also be added within 24 hours. Thank you for your patience.

By Maureen Cavanaugh, Natalie Walsh

March 29, 2010

Maureen Cavanaugh: Prop 13 has had a profound impact on California. We’ll examine the huge savings to property owners and the negative impacts to governments services.

Guest

Joanne Faryon, KPBS reporter.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:17:51

Without Prop 13, I don’t see how anyone other than the wealthy could even afford a house.

A half million dollar house there is a 100k house here.

On the other hand, lack of tax control might have been just the thing to discourage those ridiculous prices.

Comment by Reuven
2010-03-29 11:58:44

Even with Prop 13, property tax can still rise 2%/year. That’s HUGE.

The schools near me are like palaces, compared to the public school I went to. Lighted stadiums, swimming pools, gardens, etc.

Parents blame their lousy kids on the schools and not their lousy parenting.

They’re trying to weaken Prop 13 with “parcel taxes”. One’s on the May ballot here, and I’m working with a group to fight it. (We successfully fought one last November, and filed a lawsuit because of illegal campaigning with taxpayer money.)

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 15:45:06

Parents blame their lousy kids on the schools and not their lousy parenting.

Reuven, you sound like my mother. Who was a teacher for 22 years. She saw more bad parenting than most of us can shake a stick at.

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Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 12:52:29

Commerical property owners has also benefited from prop 13. Disneyland comes to mind.

 
 
Comment by Joe Lawyer
2010-03-29 21:26:18

If Prop 13 did not exist, prices of RE would not have escalated at the rate or to the heights they reached in California. Property taxes act as a brake to price increases over time.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 10:40:43

Downtown Albany condo project receives AG approval
The Business Review (Albany)

The New York State Attorney General’s office approved the sales offering plan for 24 condominiums in downtown Albany, N.Y., a step that clears another hurdle in the project.

Rosenblum Development Corp. can now take deposits and advertise the condominiums, which would be built inside a converted warehouse at Chapel and Monroe streets next to the Hampton Inn & Suites.

The Guilderland-based developer already has reservations and deposits on four units, less than a week after the offering plan was approved, said Seth Rosenblum, president.

“They will have to go to a binding contract soon,” Rosenblum said.

Most of the sale prices are in the mid-$300,000 to $400,000 range. The largest penthouse unit–2,165 square feet with two bedrooms, two baths and two terraces–costs $780,000.

A sales showroom with sample furnishings and a model unit is now open on the first floor.

A virtual model can also be seen at http://www.17chapel.com.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 10:44:03

Ritchie Bros. sees big demand for heavy equipment
Houston Business Journal

A major sale of industrial equipment and real estate conducted last week in Houston by Ritchie Bros. Auctioneers Inc. showed a strong demand for such items across the country.

Ritchie sold more than $42 million worth of equipment on March 24 and 25 at the company’s auction site in Houston.

A total of 3,000 bidders registered for the unreserved auction. Bidders hailed from 53 countries, including 48 U.S. states.

U.S. buyers purchased 74 percent of the items based on gross auction proceeds. Bidders from outside of Texas acquired 57 percent of the inventory. Thirty percent of the items were snapped up by online bidders.

Alan McVicker, Ritchie’s regional manager, said the auction demonstrated the demand for equipment is still holding strong in 2010.

Ritchie Bros. (NYSE and TSX: RBA), based in Vancouver, Canada, has more than 110 locations in 25 countries selling industrial assets used in the construction, transportation, agricultural, material handling, mining, forestry, petroleum and marine industries.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-03-29 11:10:51

I seem to recall reading that foreign buyers are doing a lot of the purchasing at these auctions and taking the equipment back home with them.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 11:19:16

That’s good because we have some serious idle surplus here.

 
Comment by exeter
2010-03-29 20:05:04

I can confirm the trend of foreign buyers overbidding for used iron. The prices the people are paying is unimaginable. And then they geotta get it on a barge and float it to it’s final destination.

Crazy….

 
 
Comment by BlueStar
2010-03-29 10:59:17

Ford Motor Co. just sold off it’s Volvo stake to China for $1.8 Billion. I wonder how they made or lost on that deal? Ford still has a ton of debt and some big chunks are coming due in the next few years.

Paying for the past

Although Ford has turned the corner on profits, its debt remains worrisomely high.

Ford was the only U.S. automaker not to declare bankruptcy. Still, it hasn’t been a smooth ride. From 2001 to 2008, Ford lost $31 billion. And the firm’s automotive division still sits on more than $34 billion in debt.
Quote:

About $8 billion of that comes due in 2013, and Ford is in a race to grow its way out of trouble. “We recognize we have too much debt on our balance sheet, but we think the best way to fix that is by rebuilding our business,” says Booth.

Ford posted a $2.7 billion profit in 2009, following a $14.8 billion loss the prior year. Analysts predict profits will continue to grow, to $3.6 billion in 2010. But if earnings hit a speed bump, Ford could be right back in the hot seat, worrying about its debt burden.

>>I noticed the UAW is cashing in some of their shares and the company is issuing shares to cover them.

“Ford Motor Co. announced Monday that it will begin a secondary public offering of about 362.4 million warrants to raise money for the UAW Retiree Medical Benefits Trust.

Each warrant represents the right to buy one share of Ford’s common stock at an exercise price of $9.20. Ford (NYSE: F) shares opened Monday trading at $13.70 each. The warrants expire Jan. 1, 2013.

The United Auto Workers’ Retiree Medical Benefits Trust, also known as the UAW VEBA, received the warrants from Ford on Dec. 31 as part of a settlement agreement in which the UAW VEBA assumed the obligation to provide eligible active and retired Ford hourly union employees and their families with health care benefits.”

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 14:10:06

Ford needs to get it damn new Fiesta over here. With Toyota temporarily on the ropes, they could be taking market share like crazy. Summer might be too late.

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2010-03-29 14:29:49

Saw it at the car show in Portland and I would buy one as a good commuter / around town car. I like what Ford as done, more than any other based on what I saw at the show. Focus, Fiesta, Fusion, Taurus…I don’t think the excuse of “they don’t build cars I want to buy” carries any weight any longer.

(Eff, I just wish I’d have bought some F when it was below $2/sh).

Will be interesting to see if sales can pay for the debt and how the stock will react to all of it.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 11:02:27

Aaron’s opens 1,700th store
Atlanta Business Chronicle

The Atlanta-based furniture, appliances and electronics rentals retailer said the new store in Covington, La., shows the strength of the company’s business model.

“The Aaron’s business model has proven to succeed in both up and down economies,” said Robin Loudermilk, Aaron’s president and CEO, in a news release. “The 1,700th store opening in Covington, Louisiana, demonstrates the success the company has experienced in spite of the faltering economy we’ve seen over the past few years. We plan to maintain this trend, increasing our store count by approximately five percent to nine percent during 2010.”

In 2009, Aaron’s profit spiked 25 percent to $112.6 million.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 15:22:36

Any business that can get people to pay 1000% over retail is going to do well. :lol:

 
 
Comment by ACH
2010-03-29 11:20:07

I just saw on CNBC that there is a prize contest for guessing the correct closing of the DOW or something like that. You get a new car!

Now, I can go on and on about the idiocy of this kind of thing, but I really don’t need to.

Actually, I kind of like the idea. It shows how desperate the markets and CNBC are. The honesty it conveys is actually refreshing.

Roidy

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 11:37:54

Small banks say they can’t win in small-business lending
USA TODAY -3-29-10

David Harmer didn’t think he’d have a problem getting a $50,000 line of credit for his 33-year-old air-conditioning business.

First Class of Cape Coral, Fla., was profitable. Harmer’s net worth was $2 million, and he’d never been late with a loan payment.

But Florida Gulf Bank denied his application last summer, saying First Class’ balance sheet didn’t show a profit. Harmer explained he reclassifies company earnings as his wages at year’s end to lower his taxes, a technicality that hadn’t posed a problem for his previous credit lines at other banks.

As Harmer tells it, a bank executive was eager to approve the loan, but he said he simply couldn’t. “He said, ‘Our hands are tied because the government says you have to follow these guidelines,’ ” Harmer says.

Florida Gulf CEO Bill Valenti confirms regulatory scrutiny in such cases has gotten stricter, though he wouldn’t discuss Harmer’s loan request specifically.

Across the USA, banks say there’s a big reason they aren’t lending more: Regulators won’t let them. Even as the White House exhorts banks to open the lending spigots, particularly for small-business borrowers who are key to job growth, banks say government field examiners are toughening their reviews in ways that discourage sound loans.

Rep. Blaine Luetkemeyer, R-Mo., a former bank examiner, recently laced into top banking regulators. “We have this huge disconnect between what’s going on here in D.C. (and) what’s actually been going on out in the field,” he told them at a joint hearing of the House Financial Services and Small Business committees. “Quite frankly, you guys are part of the problem.”

Comment by bink
2010-03-29 14:03:36

At my last business we did the same thing, paying out everything at the end of the year as bonus/wages to prevent being double-taxed on it. But this guy has a “net worth” of $2 million and can’t loan his business $50k himself? He’d rather pay interest to someone else? I know it might not be a great idea to bet your own savings on a business, but he must really not have much faith in his company either…

 
 
Comment by Reuven
2010-03-29 11:53:07

I visited my aunt and my two first-cousins yesterday. Both of them–neither of whom have high incomes–expressed regret that the didn’t have a house, and are still thinking of buying one.

One cousin–a schoolteacher–said that an agent told him he can “afford” $350,000 and that he should buy now before the tax incentives go away (!)

I tried to reason with them that house prices will almost certainly drop some more, and that the amount of rent he’s paying compared to the cost of ownership _proves_ that it’s cheaper/better to rent vs. buy. (An explanation that the end of any tax incentives will just cause house prices to fall even more went right over his head.)

I’m amazed that even after bubbles, crashes, and mania, people still think that it’s better to “own” some tiny condo in a marginal neighborhood than to rent….

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 11:56:16

St. Louis Newspaper Guild Accepts 6% Wage Cut
March 29, 2010

The St. Louis Newspaper Guild unit at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch agreed to a new five-and-a-half year contract with an initial wage cut, but future salary increases.

“By a vote of 132 to 54, the St. Louis Newspaper Guild approved on Saturday a 5½-year contract with the Post-Dispatch,” the story stated. “About 74 percent of the Guild’s members cast votes. The Guild represents employees in the newsroom, advertising and building service at the Post.”

The story added: “The contract calls for a 6 percent wage cut, along with three unpaid, one-week furloughs over the next 2½ years. Wages would bounce back by 2.5 percent in each of the last three years of the contract if company revenue increases by at least 2 percent a year.”

 
Comment by Reuven
2010-03-29 12:02:40

Happy Passover / חג פסח שמח

Next year in Jerusalem!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-03-29 13:36:52

L’shanah tova to you too!

Comment by Reuven
2010-03-29 15:32:40

Wrong holiday!

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 12:27:15

Sweet…Just 6 months, that will show the thieving bastards who’s boss.

Former IBM exec Moffat pleads guilty to insider trading
Triangle Business Journal -

Former IBM executive Robert Moffat, who played a key role in the sale of the company’s Triangle-based PC Division to Lenovo Ltd. in 2006, pleaded guilty Monday to conspiracy and securities fraud charges in connection with an insider-trading ring.

Moffat admitted to providing insider information about IBM (NYSE: IBM), Lenovo and Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (NYSE: AMD) to Danielle Chiesi, who was associated with a one-time Bear Stearns (NYSE: BSC) hedge fund called New Castle Funds LLC. Saying he knew what he was doing was wrong and would help Chiesi in her job, Moffat nevertheless gave her tips about poor server sales at IBM; weak earnings at Lenovo, where he served on the company’s advisory board; and a pending restructuring at AMD.

With his plea agreement, Moffat faces no more than six months in prison. A sentence of as many as 20 to 25 years is possible for the securities fraud charges.

Moffat is the 11th person to plead guilty in the probe of an insider-trading ring related to the Galleon Group that prosecutors said ranked up more than $20 million in profits. Moffat said that he provided the information to Chiesi because she was a friend.

Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 21:54:34

Didn’t Martha Stewart get more time than 6 months for insider trading ?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 13:01:59

I know next to nothing about IT programs, however one may be inclined to believe this group as had a sh!t load of time (a decade) to work out the bugs…

IT Problems Put Accuracy of Census at Risk, Say Government Auditors
Monday, March 29, 2010

Washington D.C. (CNSNews.com) – Information technology problems at the U.S. Census Bureau could cause inaccuracies in this year’s constitutionally mandated count of the U.S. population, according to government auditors.

“IT problems place the efficiency and accuracy of Non-Response Follow-Up at risk and final decennial costs remain uncertain,” said Judith Gordon, the principal assistant inspector general for Audit and Evaluation at the Department of Commerce, in testimony before Congress last week.

Non-Response Follow-Up (NRFU) is the Census Bureau’s program for sending people into the field to count people who have not returned mailed Census forms. The NRFU is the Census Bureau’s largest operation and involves personally interviewing millions of people nationwide.

Robert Goldenkoff, the director of strategic issues for the Government Accountability Office (GAO), told CNSNews.com that “an estimated “50 million housing units out of a mail-out universe of about 120 million” will be non-respondents that will require an in-person follow-up to count.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 16:37:37

If you knew of all the IT problems that occur every day at every level, you would never get out of bed. :lol:

This just a “filler” current events “topical” story.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 13:36:04

No mail on Saturdays: The first step.
The U.S. Postal Service wants to end Saturday delivery in an effort to save $3 billion a year.March 29, 2010

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) — Saturday mail could be one step closer to cancellation when the United States Postal Service submits an official proposal to a government regulatory board on Tuesday to eliminate 6-day delivery.

A new 5-day delivery schedule could save the cash-strapped Post Office $3 billion annually, the agency said. Earlier this month, USPS said it plans to incur about $238 billion in losses in the next 10 years if it doesn’t revamp its outdated business model.

“Every day, every month, every year this gets delayed, we end up further in the hole,” said USPS Deputy Postmaster Patrick Donahoe at a Monday briefing in New York.

Donahoe said a service cut would result in the loss of about 40,000 full-time jobs. About 600,000 workers currently work for the Post Office.

The Post Office hopes to drop Saturday mail in its next fiscal year, which starts Oct. 1. But first, it has to jump through a series of regulatory hoops that could take much longer.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 14:34:00

Just a thought, but maybe they should raise the price of junk mailers. You know, the place where most of their revenue comes from in the first place.

God knows I just can’t get enough junk mail!

Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2010-03-29 14:45:42

Wouldn’t you lower the price for a volume buyer? You’d only raise the price if you had demand from multiple buyers on a limited supply. Seems like there’s only one end game for a supplier raising prices on an ever dwindling supply of demand. Wait…what?

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-03-29 22:04:26

The idea of MWF and TThSat delivery seems like a better solution since they will probably close the PO on sat..making it hard for a lot of people since they started last fall closing around here at 5 instead of 7pm

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 13:45:35

Superman Comic Sells for $1.5 Million, Setting Record
Monday, 29 Mar 2010 : AP

The record price for a comic book, already broken twice this year, has fallen again.

June 1938 issue of “Action Comics” that first featured Superman

A copy of the 1938 edition of Action Comics No. 1 sold Monday for $1.5 million on the auction Web site ComicConnect.com. The issue features Superman’s debut and is widely considered the Holy Grail of comic books.

The same issue sold in February for $1 million. That number was quickly bested when a 1939 comic book featuring Batman’s debut sold for $1 million and change.

The issue that sold Monday was bought from a private collector and then sold by Stephen Fishler and Vincent Zurzolo, the co-owners of ComicConnect.com.

Fishler declined to name the buyer but said he was “a hardcore comic book fan.”

 
Comment by cobaltblue
2010-03-29 13:51:51

Wee bee coming back to the City!

-or-

Big Apple abuzz with hive talkin’!

New York is about to hum to a new sound – the gentle buzzing of bees – following a decision to end a ban on beekeeping in the city.

Apiarists who have long had to cloak their activities with camouflaged hives and furtive forays on to sky scraper roofs were celebrating this week and predicting a beekeeping boom among New Yorkers anxious to connect with nature.

Following a campaign led by locally-produced food campaigners, the city’s health board voted to overturn the ban.

Apiarists will now only need to register their hives and guarantee that they can control swarms and ensure their bees do not interfere with other people.

Perhaps the unlikeliest of outlaws, beekeepers have risked fines of up to $2000 if involved in the “possession, keeping, harbouring and selling” of bees.

Other US cities such as San Francisco and Chicago have thriving – and legal – beekeeping communities but, in 1999, the New York administration of Mayor Rudy Giuliani responded to a growing problem of exotic pets by drawing up a list of 100 types of wild animal considered too dangerous to be kept in the city.

They included grizzly bears, cheetahs, scorpions, elephants, ferrets and honey bees.

However, hundreds – the exact number is unclear due to the secrecy of some practitioners – defied the ban, covertly keeping bees on top of apartment buildings, in communal gardens and in their own backyards.

Hives were frequently camouflaged – painted grey to look like air conditioning units or red, like chimneys.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-03-29 13:54:52

Inflation Is Going To Get Worse
29 March 2010 By Greg Hunter

One of my consistent views on this site is “real” inflation is much higher than what the government is telling us. For example, recently the Bureau of Labor Statistics announced February’s inflation number (CPI) was “unchanged” at a 2.1% annual rate. Over the years, the BLS has changed the way it calculates inflation by using accounting gimmicks that understate what most people would consider the true cost of living. So, the government inflation numbers of today make inflation look much lower than it really is for main street America.

One of my readers, David from Salem Alabama, is under no illusion the inflation genie is captured in the bottle. David admits he is a “Dollar store junkie”, and shops at places such as “Dollar General and Big Lots, etc.” Here is an excerpt from a recent email to me from David on what he is seeing first hand:
“. . .There IS inflation big time!!

1) Cat food: was 5 cans for a dollar NOW are 3 cans

2) Dog food: 5 oz was $.33 per can NOW $.55 to $.65

BIG cans was $.65 to $.75 NOW a buck or more…
3) Boxes of flavored rice: was 2 boxes for a $1.00 NOW ONE box for
$1.00 or $1.15 ??

4) A basic candy bar: was 3 for a $1.00 NOW is 2 for a dollar or
$.65 ea 5) Sam’s flavored water – was $.50 now $.65 6) The ‘Family pac’ ( ??? ) of potato chips, ‘Ruffles’ – at Wal-Mart
at ( $4.38 ) reg price is $4.99 BUT the bag is VERY small now and
price was, a few months ago, about $3 some thing !! ??
7) AND: have you ’seen’ the shrinking rolls of toilet paper too??

You get my drift?? AND: That CPI basket of 30 items is full of
BS!! WHAT is the real cost of things!! . . .”

What David has documented is the real cost of living or inflation. According to John Williams of shadowstats.com, the inflation rate in February is running at 9.4% annually. That is the “real cost of things!” (Williams calculates the inflation rate the way BLS did it in 1980.) In a recent report, Williams said, “. . . evidence continues to mount of higher prices across a much broader spectrum of products and services. . . . eventually — within six-to-nine months — the broader inflation issues also should surface in official reporting.”

http://usawatchdog.com/inflation-is-going-to-get-worse/

Comment by roger
2010-03-29 14:35:49

Superman comic book 1938 10 cents. Superman comic book 1938 now 2010 One and one half million. I hope Superman can save us

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 14:43:27

I’m scared to plug 9% into my wage deflation spreadsheet…

OMG.

If you were making just 12k in 1980 (a decent living back then) you now have to make 159K to equal the same buying based on 9% per year.

Anybody care to still try to argue the “irresponsible worker” or “overpriced union” canard?

 
Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-03-29 15:47:50

Shouldn’t this mean the Fed will raise interest rates to offset inflation? I mean BB has stated he will keep a watchful eye for inflation, right, right?

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 17:00:59

Just like he keeps a watchful eye for bubbles, I’m sure…

 
 
Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 21:46:23

Do they think that people don’t notice the smaller packaging ? Every trick in the book to inflate items . Less service because of lay offs ,you name it . And with all this the Health Insurance Companies raised their prices
and changed policies to cover less .
I can’t even believe the price of a good bread . I have managed to get cereal for a cheaper price lately . Utility bills went up ,but some rentals
went down ,but not as much as they should of . A friend of mine got a apartment for 1250 that went for 1700 during boom times . Yep ,there has been deflation with real estate and maybe TV’s and clothes ,but
I don’t know if that makes up for the other increases .

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 14:47:22

Fannie maybe
Monday, March 29, 2010

BY NOW, the Obama administration was supposed to have a plan to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the “government-sponsored” mortgage finance enterprises (GSEs) that have been under federal control — and absorbing $126 billion in federal cash — for the past 19 months.

But last week Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner told the House Financial Services Committee that all he can promise is a “public comment” period starting April 15, in which the various housing interest groups — and there are a lot of them — can submit their ideas. Thereafter, at an unspecified “time of greater market stability,” legislation can be drafted, introduced and passed.

In short, after a year of discussion, Mr. Geithner promises more discussion.

To be sure, there are reasons for this delay. The political system, already overtaxed by the health-care debate and a looming battle over regulatory reform, might not be able to handle another partisan war. Housing remains fragile, with a huge “shadow inventory” of soon-to-be foreclosed properties poised to flood the market and not nearly enough private capital available to take the place of Fannie and Freddie’s limitless credit line with the Treasury.

Still, there is no shortage of good ideas for restructuring Fannie and Freddie, and it’s not clear that a few more months of debate will produce any brilliant discoveries. Presumably, everyone now recognizes that the old “government-sponsored” model encouraged excessive risk-taking, with private parties reaping the gains and taxpayers stuck with the losses.

The new model must abolish this fatal confusion. The country can probably get away with waiting until 2011 to do that, but not much longer. The worst possible outcome would be that housing lobbies succeed in using Mr. Geithner’s “comment” period to limit the scope of reform.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 15:53:24

“…not nearly enough private capital available to take the place of Fannie and Freddie’s limitless credit line with the Treasury.”

It’s good to bear in mind the reasons for this lack of private capital available for mortgage financing:

1) Home prices are still too high.

2) Mortgage interest rates are still too low.

3) A flood of money from the FHA and defunct GSEs is crowding out private sources of loanable funds.

 
Comment by james
2010-03-29 16:27:16

If we are going to manage to create hyper inflation bailout of the GSEs ranks pretty high on the list. Of course entitlement spending is number 1 with defined benefit plans running a close second.

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-03-29 15:04:41

Told ya money was still flowing up here:

http://blog.syracuse.com/cny/2010/03/the_20m_mansion_on_the_lake_its_the_new_king_of_skaneateles_upscale_homes.html

The $20M mansion on the lake: It’s the new king of Skaneateles’ upscale homes

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-03-29 15:26:54

Question:

What on-line, low budget brokerage do you all recommend?

Comment by CentralCoastDude
2010-03-29 15:44:01

CS

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 16:25:04

Panel on Whether Obama Pumping up Foreclosure Protection Is Fair to the Rest of Us

Monday, March 29, 2010

This is a rush transcript of “Special Report With Bret Baier” from March 26, 2010. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

JOHN COURSON, MORTGAGE BANKERS ASSOCIATION: It allows borrowers to have a number of months, in this particular case, three to six months of forbearance of their payments while they’re trying and seeking reemployment. And then once they get reemployed, then they can become eligible for a modification of their mortgage.

SYLVIA ALAYON, CONSUMER MORTGAGE AUDIT CENTER: To put a temporary stay on a foreclosure, and that person is unemployed three months or six months down the road, we’re just going to be back at square one.

JAMES FREEMAN, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL: What you are basically doing here is taking the risk, the losses in the future and moving them over to the taxpayer ledger. This is a huge cost.

They are saying — they are only talking about the $50 billion from TARP, but this is going to get bigger because the losses are going to hit the FHA over the years.

 
Comment by Sammy Schadenfreude
2010-03-29 16:41:49

http://news.goldseek.com/RickAckerman/1269867600.php

Bank of America mortgage “rescue” more like an A-Bomb.

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 16:59:58

‘We also think that by bailing out homeowners directly, the banks have inadvertently made the underlying fallacy of mortgage relief transparent – so much so that even such as Paul Krugman, the aggressively obtuse economics writer at the New York Times, is likely to recognize the plan’s fatal flaw before too long. Krugman and his colleagues have come only halfway in describing the problem, noting the moral dilemma of rescuing homeowners who bit off more than they could chew with the tax dollars of those who were prudent enough to stay out of trouble. What the pundits have failed to point out, however, is that the prudent will pay an even bigger price when their homes drop in value by tens of thousands of dollars overnight after their “rescued” neighbors’ homes have been marked down by lenders.

$250k Markdown Overnight

That is of course the way home prices are established: at the margin. Thus, if there are six homes in a cul de sac valued at $750,000 each, and one owner has to sell for $500,000 because he gets on the ropes, then all the homes in the cul de sac will effectively have been devalued by $250,000. It makes no difference whether the homeowner stays in the house or sells it, either, as everyone but Krugman, the banks, and mainstream pundits will already have figured out.’

This gets to Joey and my discussion over the weekend. How will the market “figure out” the values have decreased by $250k (or whatever the amount is) if there are no comparable sales off which to base this assessment? I don’t see how the writedowns will be rationally priced in (but perhaps Mr Market is smarter than I think?)…

Comment by Housing Wizard
2010-03-29 21:25:56

Wait ,if you write off the debt to the market value your not saving the other homeowners but you are validating that the value is in fact
lower by the write off ,or a foreclosure sale would do same .

During a normal market you would have very few distressed sales ,so a person going into foreclosure would not establish the comps ,(In fact appraisers would write down if a comp was a distressed sale ) When you have a high percentage of foreclosures that does establish value . If you have a plant that closed down and many of the unemployed ended up being foreclosed on than just by sheer numbers it would establish a much lower value and demand. The fact that your fellow neighbor borrowers
could not afford their home could affect your value . I’m sure that many people didn’t know they were in competition with borrowers that couldn’t afford the house in any long term sense . That is where the lenders had no right to create this false demand by faulty lending .
Again I say ,a appraisal is the market value of a house on the day of the appraisal (which doesn’t mean future value ) of what a willing and “able ” borrower in a arms length transaction would pay .One comp doesn’t establish value either .

With this hit the mark appraising of the boom times ,they were just making up values . So marking down the loan doesn’t save the other borrowers and make it so that they can sell for more . It doesn’t even create demand that isn’t there .

Putting people in properties with zero down is no skin in the game and I can’t believe that there was a general acceptance for this sort of lending . A high % of borrowers had no plans to stay in these properties long term anyway ,so why in the hell is there a attempt to state that their motive was otherwise ?

 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 18:45:32

“Too big to fail”

Addressing the question of whether Too Big to Fail is a useful focus for bank regulation, Nobel laureate Paul Krugman wrote:

My basic view is that banking, left to its own devices, inherently poses risks of destabilizing runs; I’m a Diamond-Dybvig guy. To contain banking crises, the government ends up stepping in to protect bank creditors. This in turn means that you have to regulate banks in normal times, both to reduce the need for rescues and to limit the moral hazard posed by the rescues when they happen.

And here’s the key point: it’s not at all clear that the size of individual banks makes much difference to this argument.

And here’s my counter argument: Only the largest banks, which would threaten a collapse of the global economy if they failed, qualify for TBTF bailouts. Get rid of the TBTF Megabanks, get rid of the need for bailouts.

Comment by packman
2010-03-29 20:33:36

Krugman’s key point is - simply - wrong.

I have an article from 2002 where Krugman said we need a housing bubble. That gives some idea of what side of the banker fence he lies.

 
 
Comment by Muggy
2010-03-29 19:11:30

Howdy from Key West :grin:

 
Comment by Mike in Carlsbad
2010-03-29 20:49:51

9pm PST tonight on KPBS envision San Diego will be airing “The Legacy Of Prop. 13″

It is also available on their website:

http://www.kpbs.org/news/envision/prop13/

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 21:11:54

* OPINION
* MARCH 30, 2010

Low Interest Rates Are Squeezing Seniors
The Fed’s help to big banks comes at a big cost to savers.

By CHARLES R. SCHWAB

Today’s historically low interest rates may be feeding banks’ profitability, but they are financially starving our seniors.

In February 2006, when Ben Bernanke was first sworn in as chairman of the Federal Reserve, the federal-funds target rate stood at 4.5%. That same year, the average yield on a one-year certificate of deposit was 5.4%. A retiree who diligently saved for a lifetime and had amassed a nest egg of $100,000 could count on an added $5,400 in retirement income per year. That may not sound like much to the average Wall Street Journal subscriber, but for a senior on fixed incomes that extra money improved the quality of his life.

Today’s average rate for an identical one-year CD is roughly 1.3%. On the same nest egg, that retiree will now get annual payout of just $1,300—a 76% decline in four years.

Some would argue that today’s low inflation rate offsets the decline. But even at an inflation rate of zero, a 76% decline in spending power is painful. And we’re already seeing signs of inflation this year. The first two months of 2010 showed an annualized inflation rate of 2%, further exacerbating the spending power problem for retirees by eroding the value of their principal.

To be sure, the country’s recent financial crisis required unprecedented action by the Fed, including lowering rates to levels not seen in more than 50 years. In particular, the infusion of capital into the banking system through historically low fed-funds target rates pulled many banks from the precipice of collapse. By that measure it has been a resounding success.

Yet these unprecedented low rates have now been in place for almost 18 months. As a result, banks have enjoyed virtually free access to money while retirees have been deprived of any meaningful yield on their fixed-income portfolios. For a large segment of our population—people who worked long and hard, who followed the rules by spending less than they earned and putting the remainder away to keep themselves independent in retirement—the ultra-low interest rate is more than a hardship. It’s a potential disaster striking at core American principles of self–reliance, individual responsibility and fairness.

To put the scale of this problem in context, consider the fact that more than $7.5 trillion in American household wealth is held today in short-term, interest-bearing products such as checking and savings accounts, retail money funds and CDs. At today’s low interest rates, the return on those savings is hundreds of billions less than it would have been at 2006 interest rates. Retirees feel the consequences disproportionately, but because much of that income would have made its way into the economy, spending and job creation also suffer.

I see the pain that low interest rates have caused very directly. My company, Charles Schwab, serves millions of individual investors, many of whom are 65 and older. These people depend on cash savings for their financial well-being.

Many in this age group are being forced to stretch for income one of three ways. One is to take on more risk just as they are progressing through retirement. Another is to go longer in maturity with their fixed income investments, locking them into a situation where inflation will bite further into their principal and purchasing power. And the worst is the slow erosion of principal that is already occurring as people cash out of savings to make up for needed income.

It’s not just retirees on fixed income we should be concerned about. Let’s not forget that savers of all ages—even the young person opening his first savings account—need some incentive of future reward for saving. Today, there is none.

The large banks are well on the mend. Profits are improving and they’re doing just fine. Our seniors are not. Those in Washington should keep their plight in mind as they consider Fed monetary policies going forward.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 21:18:11

WSJ Law Blog

WSJ on the cases, trends and personalities of interest to the business community.

* March 29, 2010, 10:54 AM ET

In War Between States and Feds, Utah Strikes Latest Blow

By Ashby Jones

All is not well between the states and the federal government. Across the land, states in recent months have signed sovereignty statements, reminders of sorts that the 9th and 10th Amendments imbue the states with certain powers.

And last week, more than a dozen states sued to strike down the new federal health-care law.

Now this interesting little movement, as reported by the AP: Utah Governor Gary Herbert on Saturday authorized the use of eminent domain to take some of the U.S. government’s most valuable parcels.

Yes, LBers, you’ve read that correctly: a state has invoked eminent domain in order to take back land from the feds.

According to the AP, Herbert signed a pair of bills into law that supporters hope will spark similar legislation throughout the West. Many contend that federal ownership of wide parcels of land restricts economic development in an energy-rich part of the country. Many people in Utah are still angry that President Clinton designated a large area in Utah as a national monument in 1996, a move that stopped development on the land.

More than 60 percent of Utah is owned by the U.S. government, and policy makers here have long complained that federal ownership hinders their ability to generate tax revenue and adequately fund public schools.

Utah Democrats have slammed the eminent domain measure as a waste of money, emphasizing that the move is on shaky legal ground. Why spend taxpayer money defending legislation that likely won’t withstand legal muster, opponents say.

But if the law is as bad as Democrats say it is, a court will quickly overturn it and the state won’t have to spend much money defending it, Herbert said.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-03-29 21:20:03

The Wall Street Journal

* REVIEW & OUTLOOK
* MARCH 30, 2010

The Ballad of Sallie Mae
A cautionary tale of public subsidy and arbitrary politics.

President Obama today signs his nationalization of the college student loan market, which will put the Department of Education directly in charge of doling out cash to students and colleges. It’s one more plank in the cradle-to-grave entitlement state, but this landmark is also a good moment to recount the rise and fall of Sallie Mae. It’s a cautionary tale for our times about public subsidy, arbitrary politics and doing business with the government.

The story begins in another progressive heyday, 1965, when the federal government launched a program to make college “affordable” by offering a taxpayer guarantee on student loans. College has if anything become even less affordable since, as the subsidies have merely driven up the prices that colleges charge.

So in 1972, with affordability still an issue, Congress created a new government-sponsored enterprise, the Student Loan Marketing Association, or Sallie Mae. Like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in housing, Sallie was born with a federal charter and an implied taxpayer backstop to provide a secondary market for student loans. Sallie would go public in 1983 and, also like Fan and Fred, mint money for shareholders by enjoying a lower cost of funds than fully private lenders.
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This free lunch gradually became a source of political concern and an inviting target under federal accounting. In 1993 President Bill Clinton claimed in his first budget that the government could save billions by cutting out the private firms and lending directly to students. But even a liberal Congress had concerns about this “single-payer” model.

That year the White House and Congress compromised and created a “public option.” The government’s new Direct Lending program would compete with private loan originators. Sallie would still be able to provide a secondary market for the loans made by private firms, but new fees in the law took away much of Sallie’s cost-of-funds advantage.

The Clinton Administration continued to push for the end of Sallie’s federal charter. But in contrast to Margaret Thatcher’s campaign to convert U.K. state-owned monopolies into private competitive companies, the Clinton team wanted to turn most of the market over to its new state-owned program at the Department of Education.

 
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