Bits Bucket For April 3, 2010
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
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I’ve been waiting a long time to see this happen:
Mortgage Risk Premiums Widen
Quick Move After Fed’s Exit Could Draw Buyers Next Week
Mortgage-backed securities stumbled on Thursday as the market struggled to adjust to the absence of Federal Reserve buying.
Risk premiums on securities sold by Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and Ginnie Mae widened 0.4 percentage points compared with Treasurys to 1.34 percentage points. They have widened 0.13 percentage points this week, and are heading toward their widest levels in five months. Investors had expected premiums to widen by 0.15 to 0.20 percentage points once the Fed exited the market, but at a more gradual pace. The speedy move raises the possibility that buyers could return to the market as early as next week.
“A lot of people are observing what’s going to happen now that the Fed is actually out,” said Chad Stephens, portfolio manager of a $1 billion government and agency fund at StableRiver Capital Management in Atlanta, Ga. He’s among those on the sidelines: “I would rather wait it out,” he said.
Agreed, Prime. It’s uncharted territory. What surprises me is that they didn’t extend this on the sly. After all, they extended the 8K without even waiting to see if it needed an extension. They could have done this here but instead are playing wait-and-see. Wonder if they are counting on Fannie/Freddie to pick up the slack.
At least mortgage rates are “expected” to stay low. I wonder what kind of stealth financial engineering measures the Fed will employ to subsidize that outcome?
“Few new deals” suggest there will be a dearth of supply, which would normally imply higher (not lower) rates, as the confused MarketWatch writer suggests.
Credit Markets
March 24, 2010, 1:52 p.m. EDT
Mortgages rates to stay low after Fed exits, say bond firms
Few new deals, institutional-investor demand should keep MBS spreads low
By Deborah Levine, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — As the Federal Reserve ends its purchases of more than a trillion dollars in mortgage-related debt this month, bond investors say the market is now stable enough to prevent a big jump in mortgage rates once its biggest buyer exits.
Investors and analysts at RBS Securities, National Penn Investors Trust, DWS Investments and others expect rates will rise only between 0.1% and 0.25% over the next several months, because of less supply of new securitization of mortgage debt and more interest from fund managers as soon as the U.S. central bank bows out.
Analysts say they also believed Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke when he said the Fed won’t turn around and sell holdings any time soon, though other Fed officials have suggested just those sales to reduce the central bank’s balance sheets.
The small increase in mortgage rates now forecast is far less than Fed officials themselves estimated at the beginning of the year, demonstrating the continued improvement in financial markets and the low amount of yield that mortgage-backed securities carry above U.S. Treasurys.
“I don’t think there is going to be a huge change in the yield spread,” said Roger Bayston, senior vice president of Franklin Templeton’s fixed-income group. “It would take a sizable increase in mortgage spreads to increase mortgage rates to the point that it would have a meaningful impact on housing activity.”
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The story is already breaking of the next bailout. It will involve MBS. It seems that Little Timmy’s plan for principle reductions, once again, has nothing to do with helping out “homeowners”. At the time the principle is reduced the loans will be converted to FHA loans. This gives them the backing of the U.S. government. The MBS buyers will do very well buying up beat down residential MBS. It is just another way for The Fed and Timmy to funnel hundreds of billions to their masters.
The Fed may have quit buying MBS directly but this program will keep the government buying via their hedge fund and big bank proxies.
Ain’t money laundering fun?
There have been some rumblings in Congress about a possible conflict of interest with Timmy the tax-cheat and his 100% book value salvations or AIG and Goldman………..clear conflicts of interest. His is, after all, heavily invested in Goldman. Let’s not mince words.
I am wishful, though not hopeful, that Timmy will be sent to prison for securities fraud, along with Bernanke, who has used the FED as an arm of the Treasury and Congress, taking onto its balance sheet for the benefit of the American taxpayer, worthless crap, and passing out U.S. Federal Reserve Notes, legal tender for all debts public and private.
It is unlikely that this tainted Congress will do anything to stop the thievery, of which they are primary beneficiaries. It is looking more and more like the Ron Paul push the AUDIT the FED will get short shrift. I was actually hopeful that this would happen, but that would expose the PONZI Scheme that is American Banking Finance in collusion with Wallstreet hysters.
Should the Audit show the US to be completely bankrupt and the money trading schemes halted, the end result may be chaos. The weak-kneed political hacks on the hill have no stomach for any restraint in spending our way to prosperity.
We are doomed.
Gee, that has such a sound of finality. I am pleased with my own mental meanderings this morning. Finalmente. The End.
It’s over. Done. I love the dream. See, Martin, white guys have dreams, too.
My thoughts, your words. Hopelessness “greater than expected”.
I am wishful, though not hopeful, that Timmy will be sent to prison for securities fraud, along with Bernanke, who has used the FED as an arm of the Treasury and Congress, taking onto its balance sheet for the benefit of the American taxpayer, worthless crap, and passing out U.S. Federal Reserve Notes, legal tender for all debts public and private.
That would send a convincing signal to future generations of banking regulators about the pitfalls of getting too close to Wall Street interests.
It is just another way for The Fed and Timmy to funnel hundreds of billions to their masters.
This seem to be the ongoing story the financial MSM persistently misses…
This sort of stuff doesn’t do my heart well. I find it absolutely sickening, the blatant, and not so obvious, fleecing of the masses for the benefit of the top 1%. I am partially responsible in that I have not figured out a viable solution to help put an end to this rapacious greed, most importantly a sure fire way to organize large groups of discontented people. Simply complaining on Ben’s blog just doesn’t cut it. I will be writing a letter to one of my Senator’s, but I’m sure it will fall on deaf ears.
I am deeply disturbed with Obama’s choices insofar as Geithner, Summers, et al are concerned. I had foolishly hoped that he would exercise some sort of good judgment, but that didn’t pan out. I certainly don’t believe McCain would have done better, but I guess I was just praying for some miracle. The corruption runs so deep in DC, that it seems impenetrable at this point. I’m not sure, short of millions of people taking to the streets with arms, that there’s any way to stop this out of control government, and that goes for BOTH parties. Instead of “of the people, for the people, by the people”, we have a group of megalomaniacs making horribly devastating decisions for millions of people due to their diseased minds.
“The corruption runs so deep in DC, that it seems impenetrable at this point.”
This happened towards the end of the Roman Empire, too. The Roman Senators became so corrupt that they undermined the tenability of their government.
“At the time the principle is reduced the loans will be converted to FHA loans. This gives them the backing of the U.S. government.”
I call BS on this strawman miscaricature of ‘insurance.’ Anyone who understands first principles of insurance realizes you can’t insure against an event which has already occurred (e.g. the collapse of U.S. home prices).
AIG Less Reliant on U.S., on Path to Repaying Bailout, CEO Says
The bailed out insurer is “now on a path” to repaying the loans included in its $182.3 billion rescue package, Benmosche said in an interview yesterday. The company will first pay off the $25.3 billion it owes the Federal Reserve before deciding how to raise the cash it needs to end its separate arrangement with the U.S. Treasury that includes a draw on a second credit line of more than $40 billion.
Go team!
I believe Benmosche is French for “full of $hit”.
First! (?) Whatever happened to NHZ? He was an interesting poster. And we used to get first hand RE news from the Netherlands.
I agree. I would have liked to hear his comparison of the governmental efforts to keep RE inflated.
Maybe he tired of the partisan BS.
Are was newly awoken upon meeting a beautiful woman or handsome young man.
Alright California, now you’re going too far!
Local wine growers said a proposal in California to tax wine $5 a bottle will kill their business, and the California economy along with it.
The Alcohol-Related Harm and Damage Services Act of 2010 would increase the excise tax on a bottle of wine 12,675 percent. That means the current tax of 4 cents on a bottle would go up to $5.11.
I have a friend who is a member of E Clampus Vitus. If ANYBODY is upset about an additional alcohol tax it surely must be them.
On a general note, you have barely seen the fangs of excessive taxation.
“you have barely seen the fangs of excessive taxation.”
Ain’t it da trute. John McLaughlin predicted on his show last night that Obama would propose, and get passed within the year, a national sales tax. Which I have no objection to, provided the income tax is permanently withdrawn.
Palmetto, this should be fought tooth and nail. You know that this is not a “one or the other” decision. You will get both and you will get it good and hard.
I actually have HUGE objections to the National Sales tax. This tax would be a change from income taxes, which is great for people who are young and have paid no income taxes. Other folks who have paid no income taxes, and people who have squandered all their money.
I just turned 55. I have over a 1/4 million dollars in “SAVINGS” that I EARNED, and paid TAXES on. A national sales tax in lieu of income taxes means i will be DOUBLE taxed on my savings.
For people with no money, and since half the people don’t pay taxes and many actually get “free money” from the feds in the form of Earned income Credits, this is not a problem, at all.
I also expect the Equal Opportunity Appointee President will push for “means testing” with Social Security, so that the money that has already been taken from me will be diverted to parasites that made minimal contributions because I have the “means” to support my own retirement.
He has already attempted to push through a FED Bond requirement in Pension funds to offload the FED trash onto private funds. I expect soon, there will be a Venezuelan attempt here to “nationalize” private plans for the public good.
After all, wealth re-distribution is great for those who have been profligate. They saved nothing, so it’s not “fair”.
The “rich” (anyone with savings over $200,000) have gotten all the breaks and the others have been, oh what’s the word, …oh that’s it………….”disadvantaged”>
This should not be tolerated. Tax the “rich”…….and spread it around.
Diogenes - I wouldn’t worry about it. We very well may have a VAT tax, but it will only help make up the huge spending from the Obama Health Care Plan.
I know proponents argue they will add 30 million uninsured to the system AND reduce costs at the same time, but I am skeptical any true health care cost cuts will materialize. If the Doc-fix (21% Medicare cuts) really are implemented, I may change my opinion about the administrations will to implement cost savings. The Doc fix will cost $200 billion by itself. The alternative to rejecting the cuts would be to have doctors balance bill the patients so they could make up the cuts which in many cases pays them at less than their costs. Right after telling everyone if they don’t make 250K they won’t have to pay more for medical care, I can’t imagine a balance bill alternative would be acceptable.
Dont dare try to take drink away from a clamper.
SV guy, I know all those clampus types too! what a riot!
The same taxation standards should apply to alcohol, as cigarettes.
What? Perhaps you should put down the bong. There is nothing comparable to “second hand smoke”.
How about all the family’s destroyed by alcohol? More suffering has come from the use of alcohol that all the wars combined.
Not to mention the fact that alcoholics are extremely annoying people.
You’re right. Instant death due to a drunk driver is far worse.
I saw two bright, vibrant, close friends with great prospects in life vanish from the earth that way when I was a young man.
Very shocking and depressing…
I’m very sorry to hear that, Professor. The drunk driving laws are partially to blame. They’re an absolute joke. A slap on the wrist, tiny fine, and 3 months suspended license isn’t even a deterrent. In my opinion, a first time offense should bring a minimum 1 year license revocation, 3 months in jail, and a significant fine. The second should be a minimum 5 year revocation, and at least a year in prison, and a $10k fine. The third should be a 10 year revocation, if not lifetime, and a minimum 5 years in the slammer with a $50,000 fine. I’m tired of these drunken POS’s killing people.
How about the Government mind its own business and stay out of our lungs, mouths, stomachs, bedrooms, etc? They won’t…Why? Because we are a nation that gets off on having the Government tax and ban behavior when one segment disapproves of said behavior. Eventually they will come after something you like.
“The Alcohol-Related Harm and Damage Services Act of 2010″
God.. The double-speak just makes my head hurt.
How about “The five dollar Wine Tax” for a name of the bill? Lord, just how stupid are the American people that these folks think they can label a tax a “harm and damage services act” and get away with it?
Momentito, Miguelito-
We’re talking about California here…
Alcohol exacts huge collateral expenses upon the general population. It is difficult to find someone who hasn’t been negatively impacted by alcohol or an alcoholic.
FWIW, I enjoy a liter of dark beer twice a week at home.
So doesn’t whoppers with cheese…..
I don’t know anybody whose life hasn’t been negatively impacted by a car, at one point or another. Alcohol has sin taxes on it already. A $5 a bottle tax would have nothing to do with the public good. It would merely have to do with the never ending greed of our elected officials and those that live off of the government teat.
OK, so we’ll have a “Whoppers with Cheese - Related Harm and Damage Services Act of 2010″ and add five bucks to the price of a whopper.
They could call it the, “we have to rape and pillage to pay off our public sector union benefactors that keep getting us elected tax”.
“They could call it the, “we have to rape and pillage to pay off our K Street and no bid defense contracts and no banker left behind benefactors that keep getting us elected tax”.
Fixed that for you.
California wines are good. But so are wines from Chile, South Africa, New Zealand, etc. And if they are at least $5 less for the same quality….who is going to buy CA wines?
“who is going to buy CA wines?”
Why snobs of course.
I can’t stand wine snobs.
Bank Failure Friday (BFF) Report:
(Note: I write this in jest, as Friday was a bank holiday as well as the start of another quarter. Since 2000, the FDIC has never shuttered a bank on the first friday of April.)
Anticipating a great Final Four weekend, the FDIC called in sick this weekend and took a few days off. The no show friday result was no banks closed, holding the tally for 2010 to 41 failed banks.
Journalists, economists, and the NAR rejoiced at the news that lead many of them to remove the “u” and “n” keys from their computers in anticipation of never using the word “unexpected” again.
Too Big to Nail:
Prosecutors said that excluding Pfizer would most likely lead to Pfizer’s collapse, with collateral consequences: disrupting the flow of Pfizer products to Medicare and Medicaid recipients, causing the loss of jobs including those of Pfizer employees who were not involved in the fraud, and causing significant losses for Pfizer shareholders.
The CNN Special Investigation found that the subsidiary is nothing more than a shell company whose only function is to plead guilty.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/04/02/pfizer.bextra/index.html
..Pfizer was considered too big to nail.
Why? Because any company convicted of a major health care fraud is automatically excluded from Medicare and Medicaid.
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Govt doesn’t care about losses to Pfizer or it’s shareholders or the fate of it’s employees. It cares about not having the drugs and things Pfizer provides.
Is Pfizer too big to nail or is that law too important to modify?
Holding people and businesses to the highest standards is fine, in theory.. at least until reality gets in the way.
I personally see little distinction between Pfizer and too-big-to-nail banks; is there any difference?
Lets see..
Pfizer provides things we cannot do without.
Banks provide things we cannot do without.
I agree. There’s no fundamental difference between them.
I could do without banks that are so big they can hang a Sword of Damocles above the global financial system which enables them to throw away money on bad loans, then extract TBTF bailouts. This is moral hazard at its worst, and I am still highly optimistic that Paul Volcker’s wisdom will finally trump Wall Street bank lobbyists who stand in the way of substantial financial reform.
Trust me, Joey, it is going to happen!
If you can do without what banks provide, but cannot do without Pfizer’s products, it’s evident that you do see a difference between them. Was your original question rhetorical?
Pfizer was not prosecuted (technically) so it could continue to participate in the US health care market. It is considered too important to prosecute. TITP.
We are ruled by large corporations at the federal level, and public employee unions and contractors at the state and local level.
Today’s seniors, Generation Greed, are pandered to by both sides.
If only there were real elections in the U.S., for legislative office and not just for President, Governor, Mayor and a few other offices, we could do something about this.
Anyone else remember being taught about Initiative, Referendum and Recall that are in most state constitutions? If those features were part of the U.S. Constitution we’d be a lot better off.
It all starts with The Fed. Until you tackle that monster everything else is just noise.
Well we had a recall of one bad governor for another bad governor. Didn’t really work to well for CA
So what you really need is a referendum to abolish the governorship itself.
Referendum/ballot initiative is mob rule. In my state the mob (majority) can raise taxes and ban the use of legal products. It is a complete disaster and it may well be time to “ban” the referendum/ballot initiative process. Time for some freedom up in here.
Some of us want all the things big corporations provide for us but don’t want to accept the consequences.
Big corporations are nothing but government-sanctioned monopolies. There is nothing people want that cannot be produced by networks of small businesses.
I don’t see the advantage in replacing a cartel of big businesses with a cartel of small businesses.
For a network of small businesses to produce something, they would need to set aside their competitive urges, cooperate and act as a single unit, and would seek to gain the maximum of power, influence and profit for themselves just as any large company would.
Given that it’s against individual small businesses nature to cooperate, an organization such as that would be difficult to form, maintain and control, but I guess it could be done if some central authority were accepted.
All in all, the concept seems little more than a very complicated and tedious way to do what comes naturally in big businesses.
“I don’t see the advantage in replacing a cartel of big businesses with a cartel of small businesses.”
Small businesses are not individually powerful enough to capture their regulators, nor to extort ‘too-big-to-fail’ ransom money out of sovereign governments, on the false supposition that allowing them to fail would result in a collapse of the global financial system.
Agreed.. “small businesses are not individually powerful enough” .. but we’re not talking about that.
The subject is at hand is the practicality of a coalition of small businesses which is capable of producing and providing what big corporations currently provide.
A coalition of 1,000 individual businesses acting in concert will have 1,000 times as much power and influence, employ 1,000 times as many people, and will have an impact on the economy which is 1,000 times larger.
While one small business is not likely judged as too big to fail, this coalition very likely could be considered too big to fail.
The poor banks!!! The poor drug conglomerates! The poor wealthy elite!!!! Oh Martha!!!! What shall us genuinely poor people do without our masters?!!!!
What shall you do? Good question. Why don’t you tell us..
Go around your house and get rid of anything provided by big industry / business / corporate / conglomerates.
My best guess is you’ll end up sitting naked under the stars on a patch of dirt, twiddling your thumbs.
The strawman king joey strikes again.
The idea that sound fundamental and reasonable rules that balance out the out of balance relationship between two parties eludes you.
“Today’s seniors, Generation Greed, are pandered to by both sides.”
So I finally see a definition for this Generation Greed you have been talking about for months. A bit fuzzy. At what age does someone become a senior? When they retire?
Is it any more greedy for seniors to want to live a middle class lifestyle than for younger folks? Or should we just cut off Medicare at 70 and let them all die through natural attrition?
Would you think them less greedy if they continued to work?
SV movie review,
Watched Inglourious Basterds last night. I thought it to be a very good movie. Not Pulp Fiction good, but damn good nonetheless.
Christoph Waltz was outstanding as Colonel Hans.
I haven’t been out to a movie in years: with kids/babysitter, people texting/farting/breathing/talking, and other forms of media, I am not compelled to go sit in a theater.
I agree, Muggy.
But I used that as an excuse for a Netflix membership, low-end surround system, and a nice tv (all paid for in cash).
I think of it this way: Friday night date night with the wife was usually around $60-$80. Movie tickets, snuck in candy, a soda, and dinner would add up to that. Couple drinks before the movie would take it to $100, easy. And I hate going to the movies - the crowds, inability to pause, the talking kids, cell phones…on and on. Despise going to the movies.
So we skipped going out for a year, put the money aside.
Now, date nights are virtually free, aside from the Netflix membership. Last night we took mini-Chile to the pool ($22 for a one year membership) to wear him out, then came home, ate leftover lasgania, had a beer, and watched Up in the Air. Good movie, but woulda been $25 for tickets, plus another (insert going rate for a babysitter), plus maybe $50 for dinner and drinks. No thanks.
Priceless….
Oldie but goodie: Picked up Sideways for six bucks at Wally World. I’d seen it before, but it was as good the second time. Funny part are not family-friendly.
Sideways is freakin’ amazing — the “this is not a bar” scene rang true for me. My buds and I used to, uh, go “wine tasting” in the Finger Lakes.
Sir, that’s a sipping wine.
Fine! Let me see your gulping wines!,/i>
Thanks SV, I have that movie but haven’t watched it yet; I’ll try to get it in this weekend sometime.. After some of the swill that’s been released this year, I’m hoping that IB will be pretty good (and I’m a QT fan, so I already know what I’m in for); but I’ve heard mixed reviews.. Which has made me wary (the same type of reviews I got for Avatar; and I’m still trying to get over the shock (and awe) of how bad that drivel was)…
Anyway, thanks for the heads up..
I just got Netflix and can see almost anything for $10 a month streaming through my PS3, much cheaper than paying for premium cable. Just finished watching Food Inc., it was simplistic but I recommend it. Whatever happened to that foreign documentary on housing that some of you guys worked on? Havent been able to bring myself to watch the Michael Moore version yet, as he is often inaccurate and so egotistical that his stunts come across as middle schoolish.
From John Maudlin.
“Remember, we need about 125,000 new jobs a month to just keep up with the growth in our population. Though if you look at today’s employment release, they added a whopping 398,000 people to the civilian labor force (a huge number when compared to the 162,000 new jobs - a discrepancy you didn’t read about in any report.). What kept the unemployment rate from rising significantly was that they deducted 238,000 people who are no longer considered unemployed, due to the fact that they have given up looking for jobs. The U-6 unemployment rate rose to 16.0%, however. The U-6 rate includes people who have part-time work but wish they had full-time work. That part-time number rose above 9 million again this month, in a rather large monthly jump.”
Walmart cant hire everybody right?
I thought we needed $150K jobs added per month to keep up with increase in population. Am I remembering incorrectly, or has that number gone down?
I’d go back to work for a $150K job!
Oops. 150K jobs. Not $150K per job or anything like that.
Isn’t that growth mostly immigration? Looking at the international remittance flow of funds falling by double digit % rates. I have seen many stories the last few years that imply the US birth rate is flat right now. The labor picture shows that worst unemployment rates are in the younger part of he work force. The question then becomes; since the birth rate (replacement rate) started declining in the 90s I would add 17 years (teenagers) to that base line and calculate the net growth in the underlying population for today. If we stop letting foreign immigrants from entering the country there will be more jobs available for these young workers.
Legal immigration is not the problem. Illegal immigration and HI-B are.
Bad news, jobs creation hasn’t kept up for years. As in 20.
ST. PETERSBURG — A 45-year-old woman was arrested Friday, accused of trying to blow up her own apartment building.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/crime/police-st-petersburg-woman-tried-to-blow-up-her-own-apartment-building/1084882
Mom?
The U.S. wage rate for the next generation, like water, has found its natural level. Apparently it isn’t enough to take away employer-provided wages and health insurance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/03/business/03intern.html?hp
“With job openings scarce for young people, the number of unpaid internships has climbed in recent years, leading federal and state regulators to worry that more employers are illegally using such internships for free labor.”
leading federal and state regulators to worry that more employers are illegally using such internships for free labor.
“Surprise, surprise!”
My previous employer used to pay interns a whopping $10/hour, now all unpaid.
I’ve said it before I’ll say it again: only an idiot works for free.
Unless it’s for your friends or family or a very worthy charity, you are not just screwing yourself, but everyone else as well.
This may be hard to believe, but it used to illegal to work for ANY for-profit for free.
I talked to a CSX Locomotive engineer friend , who said they’re starting to haul a lot of ”Scrap metal” down the main lines. Where it’s headed he dosen’t know , but he’s getting a lot of runs. and that’s good news for the economy , though not nesesarily for housing.
Maybe metal prices will head back up to where they were a few years ago . The whole countryside was self cleaning . If a house trailer was left empty or unattended it was stripped in short order . Lately , some of the real dumb thieves are frying themselves stealing live copper wires .
Also , a couple of Spanish folks were caught removing 500 railway spikes , to try and sell as scrap . Talk about an impending train wreck .
“The whole countryside was self cleaning”
“Lately , some of the real dumb thieves are frying themselves stealing live copper wires”
Aren’t these 2 statements redundant?
LOL..
Metal prices are still decent. I took a few car batteries to a scrap place and got about 10.00 / battery.Copper is over 3.00/ lb.I dont think steel or tin are that high right now though.Steel was at about 100.00/ton a couple months ago.
I got over $400/ton in March for steel scrap . That’s close to the record high reached back in ‘08.
You might want to check out the new iron ore pricing model. It used to be based on fixed contract prices like long term shipping rates. As of this week the new model will price more like oil futures with 90 day roll over contracts. The finance vampires are already dreaming of a new 2 trillion dollar derivative market by the year 2020. Today the market is worth around 300 million. This is madness.
http://www.financialadvisory.com/article/02-04-2010/834/world-steel-association-furious-over-bhp-billiton-(ase-bhp)-and-rio-tinto-(tse-rio)-and-vale-sa-contract-changes/
The American Economy sputters to life and produces…scrap metal.
Probably to be melted down and be sold to India and China…
No. Sold to India and China where it will be melted down.
“Cash for Clunkers” was conceived by China, not Obama.
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/127027
Once melted down, sold back to the US at a higher price.
Is everyone ready for another Fed-engineered credit bubble? You have to admit it beats looking for work.
Credit Markets
April 2, 2010, 11:41 a.m. EDT
Junk bonds, swaps show firms flush with credit
Concerns rise that overheating credit could spell trouble … again
Mortgage rates expected to stay low after Fed exit
By Deborah Levine, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — A fivefold surge in the sale of junk bonds, a drop in borrowing spreads to two-plus-year lows, and heightened buzz about a coming wave of leveraged buyouts are the latest signs that credit markets are getting close to their pre-crisis levels — and, to some observers, sowing the seeds for a dangerous new borrowing binge.
Companies sold $54.3 billion in U.S. high-yield debt during the first quarter of the year, according to Dealogic, up from $9.6 billion a year ago, as the sharp drop in interest rates made it cheaper to borrow. Including investment-grade debt, bond sales in March rose to their highest level since May.
Last week, the growing debt issuance turned swap spreads, a metric of how issuers adjust their interest-rate exposure, negative for the first time on record.
And borrowing costs measured by corporate-bond spreads have returned to December 2008 levels, though they are still far higher than they were before the housing bust.
Selling debt has become much cheaper for companies as the credit crisis fades into history and investors lay their hopes on the recovery of the economy.
Plus, there’s little allure for investors to lend to some of the most stable borrowers, such as the U.S. government.
The Federal Reserve’s 15-month policy of keeping rates near 0% alongside a pledge to keep them low for a “extended period” have pushed 10-year Treasury yields /quotes/comstock/31*!ust10y (UST10Y 3.93, +0.07, +1.73%) to 3.94%, after falling to record lows from around 5.25% when the Fed started cutting in 2006.
Yields on 1-month CDs have fallen to 0.47%, from 2.5% in 2007, according to Bankrate.com.
For some private-sector analysts, as well as Federal Reserve policy makers, this lengthy period of low benchmark rates and investor appetite for higher returns poses a risk of again pushing the economy to an unsustainable reliance on debt — not far from the situation that led to the credit crisis just a few years ago.
“We look at this as a replay of what happened in 2007,” said Walter Zimmermann, chief technical analyst for United-ICAP.
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You want proof that junk debt has rebounded check out the ABX market for the original Subprime MBS instruments. Everything from AAA+ to BBB-. This stuff is rocketing up the last week just as the FED stops buying. Check out several of these charts:
http://www.markit.com/en/products/data/indices/structured-finance-indices/abx/abx-prices.page?
If you look at the components you will see stuff from Bear Sterns/Country Wide/Leaman Bros. The worst of the worst and yet it’s worth more every month.
I’m short a small position against the US 10yr. I’ll short more on bounces from here on out. I predict mucho pain in the bond market this year reversing a 20 year bond bull market.
“The worst of the worst and yet it’s worth more every month.”
Debt cat bounces typically precede the ultimate collapse of worthless assets.
Home sellers beware: Fee might be hidden
San Antonio Express-News | 03/29/2010 | By Jennifer Hiller - Express-News
Here’s a new concept in real estate: Buy a house, and when you go to sell it years later, owe the original developer or builder 1 percent of the sales price.
Freehold Capital Partners, a company started in Texas, is selling developers across the country on a plan that would attach a private transfer fee to homes, allowing developers to profit for generations.
The fee, written into neighborhood restrictions, would encumber the property for 99 years and throw 1 percent of the sale price back to the developer — or his or her estate or another investor — and Freehold each time the home changes hands.
It’s an idea that’s drawn the attention of some state legislatures and real estate trade organizations, which are fighting to stop the transfer fees from gaining a spot in the market.
Critics say such fees could taint entire neighborhoods, making it difficult to sell homes, and could complicate title records for decades. If the fee is not paid by the seller, a lien is placed on the property and the title becomes muddy.
And then there’s the basic question: “What it comes down to is, 20 years later, why is the developer still profiting?” asked Jeremy Yohe, director of communications with the American Land Title Association, the national association for title companies.
A good idea if it prevents developers from filing bankruptcy, which they seem to do at the slightest whim.
I’m not saying it’s a good idea for an individual to participate but a good idea if a lot of other folks participate.
“A good idea if it prevents developers from filing bankruptcy, which they seem to do at the slightest whim.”
Nah, they could still manage the same scam. Securitize the income stream, sell it off to someone, distribute the cash to owners, and go BK with no assets. That doesn’t sound any harder.
Insanity.
And another really bad idea that screws commoners comes out of where? Texas? This is no surprise.
Anyone agreeing to buy a home under such a condition is a fool. That said, this is just another idea to allow greedy bankers, I mean developers- they’re virtually one in the same- to bleed more money out of the population.
Back to the discussion with Joey yesterday about whether the Fed recently engaged in illegal actions. It seems the Fed recently decided to allocate liquidity to some private firms (e.g. those deemed too big to fail) while throwing others (those small enough to fail) under the bus. I thought only Congress had a legal mandate to make allocation decisions?
It seems highly questionable whether the action of “replacing less liquid assets with more liquid assets” had no bottom-line effect, as a primary reason for assets to lack liquidity is for the seller’s asking price to exceed the market value of the so-called “illiquid” asset. By contrast, assets that are “liquid” feature a large number of sellers willing to price the assets at or below market value, where buyers are readily forthcoming.
The Fed, Liquidity, and Credit Allocation
Daniel L. Thornton
The current financial turmoil has generated considerable discussion of liquidity. Moreover, it has been widely reported that the Federal Reserve played a major role in supplying liquidity to financial markets during this distressed time. This article describes two ways in which the Fed has supplied liquidity since late 2007. The first is traditional: The Fed supplies liquidity by providing credit through open market operations and by lending to depository institutions at the so-called discount window.
The second is by enhancing the liquidity of portfolios of some institutions by replacing their less-liquid assets with more-liquid assets. The Fed has used the second approach since late 2007. Unlike several previous occasions, however, it began supplying liquidity in the first, more traditional way only recently—in September 2008. This article notes that the Fed departed from its long-standing tradition of minimizing its effect on the allocation of credit by supplying liquidity
to institutions that it believed to be most in need; at the same time, it neutralized the effects of these actions on the total supply of liquidity in the financial market. The article also discusses the Fed’s reasons for reallocating credit this time rather than simply increasing the total supply
of financial market liquidity.
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Here is a key reason why I believe this time is different, in the sense that real estate investors who thought they were being smart by purchasing devalued property at the trough of a recession are likely to find they got severely burned going forward. THE MARKET WAS ARTIFICIALLY PROPPED UP TO AVOID THE FIRE SALE SCENARIO THAT USUALLY ACCOMPANIES A RECESSION. Hence future price appreciation will be “lower than expected” compared to real estate price gains during past recovery periods.
“Another reason may have prompted the Fed’s
unconventional approach. Benanke (2008) notes
that “recent research by Allen and Gale (2007)
confirms that, in principle at least, ‘fire sales’
forced by sharp increases in investors’ liquidity
preference can drive asset prices below their
fundamental value, at a significant cost to the
financial system and the economy.” Bernanke
goes on to say that “A central bank may be able
to eliminate, or at least attenuate, adverse outcomes
by making cash loans secured by borrowers’
illiquid but sound assets.”12 Benanke (2008) suggests
that in so doing borrowers could avoid selling
securities in an illiquid market, which would
avoid potential economic damage “arising, for
example, from the unavailability of credit for productive
purposes or the inefficient liquidation of
long-term investments.””
Fed should hand over bank bailout records
McClatchy-Tribune News Service The Sacramento Bee
Published: Thursday, Apr. 1, 2010 - 5:15 am
The following editorial appeared in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram on Wednesday, March 31:
In the movie that gets made some day about Bloomberg’s lawsuit against the Federal Reserve, Mark Pittman will be the rumply crusading reporter who slashes through the government bureaucracy to shine a disinfecting light on the sinister scheming of greedy bankers.
Once you get past the details about complex lending mechanisms and the scope of Freedom of Information Act exemptions, it isn’t plain old good versus evil, actually, but a balancing of interests.
And it’s about more than $2 trillion in taxpayer funds that Federal Reserve Banks lent to struggling private banks in spring of 2008 to help counteract the nation’s financial crisis and calm a panicky stock market.
Who got it and why? And why shouldn’t the public get to know?
Pittman, a Bloomberg News reporter, used FOIA to ask the Fed, the nation’s central bank, for the names of banks that received loans through several emergency programs, the amounts they received and the collateral they provided to get the funds.
The Fed wouldn’t provide the information.
Bloomberg sued the Federal Reserve System’s Board of Governors in 2008 and this month won another round. The 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New York said a trial court judge correctly found against the Fed. (The appeals court also ruled for Fox News in a separate but similar case.)
FOIA requires federal agencies to give the public records about their operations, except in specific categories.
The Fed (joined by a consortium of the largest banks) wants the data Bloomberg seeks withheld as “commercial or financial information obtained from a person and privileged or confidential.”
The argument is that telling taxpayers who got loans isn’t in the public interest because it would undermine public confidence in the banks, destabilize financial markets and deter teetering banks from seeking federal help.
Bloomberg counters that the documents “are central to understanding the government’s response to the most cataclysmic financial crisis in America since the Great Depression” and that taxpayers need to know “how the Fed is safeguarding the public’s money.”
A coalition of media organizations added in a supporting brief that secrecy “conceals any collusion, corruption, fraud or abuse that might have occurred” and that ruling for the Fed would set a standard that allows other regulators to withhold important information.
(The brief was joined by the National Conference of Editorial Writers, to which members of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram Editorial Board belong.)
The media have the stronger argument.
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“And it’s about more than $2 trillion in taxpayer funds that Federal Reserve Banks lent to struggling private banks in spring of 2008 to help counteract the nation’s financial crisis and calm a panicky stock market.”
Wouldn’t this information help explain why a number of the largest Wall Street investment banks were enabled to make outsized profits and pay gargantuan bonuses in 2009 while much of the U.S. labor force was liquidated to the back of the unemployment line?
Here is the original version of this editorial. Feel free to leave your comment…
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Fed should hand over bank bailout records
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* March 19, 2010, 3:45 PM ET
Discount-Window Future Darkens After Court Move
By Michael S. Derby
The Federal Reserve might be facing the irrelevancy of one of its key emergency lending tools.
On Friday an appeals court rejected the Fed’s argument that disclosing borrower names and collateral information for its emergency lending facilities compromises their effectiveness. The programs in question most notably include the discount window. The Fed had been sued by Bloomberg LP’s news division and Fox News Network LLC’s Fox Business Network for this information. Fox is owned by News Corp., which also owns Dow Jones, publisher of this Web site.
The Fed contended that more disclosure would drive away future borrowers, with institutions fearing public knowledge of their emergency loans would be a signal to markets of their weakness. While the fight was over what the Fed has already done, central bankers are worried about what all this means for the future.
Many economists agree with the Fed’s view. That said, the Fed’s increased public profile, arising from its lead role in fighting the financial fires of recent years, has made openness in its activities a similarly important goal.
With most of the Fed’s emergency tools wound down, the main issue is what happens with the discount window. It exists to make collateralized loans to deposit-taking banks, and it is a venerable tool in the central bank arsenal. The discount window was the first line of defense as the financial crisis began to take hold in late 2007, and it was later joined by a smorgasbord of other programs aimed at aiding firms across the spectrum.
In normal times the discount window sees almost no borrowing, but starting in early 2008 borrowings rose sharply and at an unprecedented rate, rising as high as $400 billion in late 2009, before moving lower as financial conditions mended and the Fed put in place other emergency lending facilities. As of March 17, discount window borrowing had ebbed to $11 billion.
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FICO for you and FICO for me, but no FICO for them, eh?
- U.S. households need to tow the line or earn low FICO scores that inflict higher-than-market interest rates on any money they borrow.
- Megabank, Inc gets to throw money into the sea, then borrow from the Fed at zero percent, only to loan to the rest of the world at “market interest rates” and pocket the spread.
- Are there no laws on the books against lending discrimination? If there are, doesn’t the above situation glaringly break them?
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* Much of U.S. Was Insulated From Housing Bust
* Secondary Sources: Productivity, Mortgage Debt, Political Affiliation
* March 31, 2010, 8:30 AM ET
Economist Warns of Public Bubble
By Conor Dougherty
The U.S. economy has traded a public bubble for a private one, according to this forecast by California forecasting firm Beacon Economics.
The firm’s stance is that the $787 billion federal stimulus package and the Federal Reserve’s near-zero interest rates have propped up the economy but will prove unsustainable and are actually exacerbating some of the imbalances that led to the recession. “The nation seems to be trading in its private bubble for a public one, swapping one set of unsustainable economic drivers for another,” the report said.
The firm cites a lot of familiar problems, such as the deficit and the potential for inflation down the road. (For the record, inflation is so tame right now that some economists are more worried about deflation) And, like many reports that call “bubble,” it is light on specifics as to how, when or if it might pop.
The gist is this: The stimulus and other such measures have prevented a shedding of debts that needs to happen before the economy can return to sustainable growth. The saving rate has grown from its record lows, but has been propped up by tax cuts that have exacerbated the mountain of debt at all levels of government. Property values have fallen, but accounting changes have prevented banks from acknowledging a lot of underwater loans. Even the roaring stock market is artificial, in the firm’s view.
“The rally in the equity markets seems to be occurring despite the fact that overall asset prices still seem too high given our long-run potential for growth. And the bounce in the asset markets overlooks the fact that overall the national deleveraging that needs to occur to shed off record levels of debt has yet to really get underway,” the report said.
This is, obviously, a bearish stance. Beacon’s founder, former UCLA Anderson Forecast economist Chris Thornberg, has done well forecasting bubbles before. He serves on the advisory board of New York hedge fund Paulson & Co., which made many billions of dollars betting on a housing collapse and was subject to a book by Journal reporter Gregory Zuckerman.
To be sure, even Beacon acknowledges that there are ways out of a bubble that don’t involve a pop. “The best-case scenario is that the Federal Reserve and the Obama administration manage to draw down the public bubble slowly, a possibility that private bubbles typically don’t share,” the report says.
The downside? “The worst-case scenario is that the bubble pops rapidly, putting the economy squarely back into another recession — the double dip.”
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It’s sad that the author can’t keep the main thesis of the article straight in his head for even a few minutes. In the very first sentence, he states it as “public bubble for a private one”, even though that is the opposite of what Thornberg said. And he then gets it right in the third sentence.
Yeesh.
I should have mentioned that I am glad to see Thornberg getting the truth out there. I agree that they are creating a public-debt bubble in order to mop up the excesses of a private-debt bubble.
Or as I like to put it: an addict (debt or otherwise) always wants one last hit on the way to treatment.
Our economy is very much like a crack-addict, only it’s cheap debt that we’re addicted to instead of cheap cocaine.
Maybe hair-of-the-dog hangover cures are more effective when applied to economic binges than to alcoholic benders.
It seems premature to presume the housing bust is history. After all, Japan is still reeling from its early-1990s housing bust two decades hence. The Fed has only just begun removing its support for the market; it is way too early to tell how this will play out as the economic recovery takes hold.
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Much of U.S. Was Insulated From Housing Bust
By Phil Izzo
The U.S. still is feeling the effects of widespread housing bust, but a new report serves as a reminder that large swaths of the nation didn’t experience a boom in home prices and hasn’t suffered from the bust.
New York Federal Reserve staffers Jaison R. Abel and Richard Deitz released a report highlighting the stability of upstate New York’s housing markets. The research notes that while the rest of the U.S. saw a real-estate boom and bust, upstate New York was largely insulated from the cycle.
“Despite upstate’s long-term weak economic growth and population loss, Buffalo, Rochester, and Syracuse all ranked in the top 10 percent of metro areas in terms of home price appreciation in 2009, with Buffalo ranking sixth overall,” the authors wrote.
But upstate New York isn’t alone in bucking the national trend. “Most U.S. metro areas actually experienced more moderate increases in house prices than the nation between 2000 and 2006. In fact, 249 of the 383 metropolitan areas tracked by the Federal Housing Finance Agency saw price increases below the national rate of 8.1% during the boom,” Abel and Deitz said. Many of these areas, in turn, didn’t experience the resulting bust.
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I have been saying for 3 years or so, as others here have been, that the bubble prevented declines in Upstate NY. It did excuse decline them but merely delayed it.
Extend and pretend until you can’t.
Here are some other extenuating factors:
We don’t have the inventory/housing units the bubble areas have. The greater Rochester area may. There are a few towns around here that I think do (Lysander, Camillus, maybe Dewitt) but overall there just weren’t the crazy increases in inventory here that other areas saw.
Pull up Craigslist, there often aren’t even rentals available in my town. Our foreclosure numbers in this town: 2. (although I suppose there could be shadow inventory). The numbers are higher in more blue collar towns but except for the very poorest of areas maybe you just don’t see whole neighborhoods w/for sale signs or empty.
The NY Fed Reserve posts numbers for late payments in a few different areas of consumer credit. The data is available by zip code. The only area where we had a big spike: student loans. Credit cards, mortgages and auto loan late payment rates were all relatively low. I just think this area and perhaps many others like it were generally more conservative. Or perhaps the income/housing costs helped them from getting in too much trouble. You can find homes for 3x median income here. And Muggy, here’s the real kicker for Syracuse: our big employers, education and medical fields, at least so far very, very few layoffs. Medical’s been adding. The pain resulting from the first layer of onion being removed has not left us stinging. Perhaps the 2nd layer will bring what you’re looking for.
Hey CarrieAnn, I don’t recall which town you live in (no offense taken if you don’t want to post that), but my wife’s family cannot sell their Skan home (been listed for 3 years) and my wife’s high school buds can’t sell their Manlius home.
I think there has been a lot of bubble building, but it’s harder to detect. I mean, just check out Skan — there are several condo conversion in a village of 3,000 people!! Some of those condos are 2/2’s in the $300k+ range. I know for sure, too, that there has been a lot of construction in areas like Farmington (the ‘new’ Victor, which was the ‘new’ Pittsford until that became uncool, too).
I’m not looking for anything negative, but my sense is, especially for my generation, a lot of people are going to be surprised in Upstate in the next few years when they realize they didn’t miss the bubble. I may be wrong, just my ground-level observations from the past few years + my anecdotal knowledge.
I agree with medical expanding, although I think that will be reeling too after the boomers pass. As for education, just wait for the recovery act spending to go bye-bye. Poof. That I am certain of.
The denial in upstate NY and VT is insidious. Carrie and I must agree to disagree. Itis fact many swaths of these areas didn’t seen quadrupling prices but I can assure everyone here, they doubled and then some.
Now ask yourself folks, given the fact the out-migration from upstate and VT has continued throughout the bubble years and wages continue to fall, identify *one fundamental* that would support an uptrend in prices….. There is only one answer. Global credit/financing mania is what drove prices up. Generally speaking, the menu is short…. chronic underemployment, increasing property taxes and the resumption of the slow, long de-industrialization driven economic decline.
It took almost 4 years for the Savings & Loan disaster to sort itself out.
Who hasn’t noticed that in tough times more people are looking out for those who use the system to their advantage? The following forum post over at City Data Forum reminds me of this (and there are plenty more postings all over the internet in a similar vein - people are pissed-off):
“..Where I live there is a thing called a Quest card. This is the state system for providing handouts. It can be used just like a cash card. A person can get cash at any cash machine or they can use it at any store to buy things.
One day I was over at the local Safeway store. As I was checking out I saw a sign that said that the store would give out no more than $100 in cash when using the Quest card. While I was checking out I was teasing the cashier. I said what’s this Quest card thing. So explained it to me. I said do you mean that if I get one of those cards I can get tax payer money from here or a cash machine? That set her off. Trying to keep her voice down she said that people that are supposed to be poor sure don’t act poor. She said that the store had cake mixes for less than $2 but no more than and hour ago some people came in and bought the most expensive cake they have and paid for it with a Quest card. She said that she see it all the time. They are also the people that make the most noise when the store does not have something they want. She said she had been doing it so long that if she saw a cart full of prepared food there was a 95% chance that it was going to be paid for with public assistance.
Where I live I am a commissioner in the fire district. This is an elected position but like a lot of the fire service it’s non-paid. In fact 75% of the firefighters in the US are non-paid. There is no money to pay them but there is money to pay people to do nothing. In my area the number of firefighters that are on public assistance is zero. It’s because they don’t and won’t sign up. Those that owe the most to the system give the least back. They seem to have the mind set that it’s all owed to them.
The most outrageous behavior I have ever seen is by a couple of people in my district. This one women comes to mind. She lives 6 miles out of town. She has no car or even a license. She has more yard ornaments than 50 people should have and a lot of her money goes there. If she needs a ride to town and no one is available to take her she calls an ambulance. She demands to be taken to the hospital so they have to take her. At the hospital they can find nothing wrong so they release her. She then goes on her way shopping or what ever she really wanted to do in town. Not only did the tax payers pay for a ride in the ambulance we also paid a hospital bill for nothing. But if the ambulance was needed for a real call it won’t be available.
The hospital won’t help bust the woman because of HIPPA regulations (health privacy laws). I contend that these handout systems are out of control. Those that take out of the system should have to give back. But now-days community service is a form of punishment. Me donating my time to the fire district is community service. I don’t want to paint with a wide brush and state that all people act this way. But it must be my luck that by far most that I have encountered do. Most people on public assistance are the most demanding when it comes to services and they act like it’s all owned to them.”
“The hospital won’t help bust the woman because of HIPPA regulations (health privacy laws).
If you REALLY WANT this to stop then you should enlist everyone you know to do exactly what this woman is doing. When the breaking point is reached then something will have to be done.
I can echo this persons sentiment from what I see in the educational sector. The kids on free/reduced lunch complain non-stop about the food but eat french fries instead of fruits and veggies. A large proportion of these children receiving public assistance have iPhones/iPods.
Nobody likes the low rent crowd, but never forgot who gets the biggest handouts every year. (Hint: it ain’t the welfare queens)
Where is everyone today? Is it just me, or is it awfully quiet in here?
Weather on the east coast is gorgeous.
You could blame it on the weather in SD as well — together with the spring soccer season…
Wait, are you guys saying the weather has an impact on certain activities?
RIght — especially anything to do with home buying or economic recovery.
In DC Metro, around 80 degrees, dry, filtered sunlight. Glorious
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Texas tenants may feel fallout of apartment complexes’ foreclosures
Posted Friday, Apr. 02, 2010 Comments
By MIKE LEE
mikelee@star-telegram.com
FORT WORTH — Last year, Amber Bradbury and her husband signed a great lease with their landlord. In exchange for her husband’s services as a maintenance man, they were to get a two-bedroom apartment for $250 a month — for five years.
Then their apartment complex, the 102-unit Sandy Oaks complex near Sandy Lane and Interstate 30 just east of downtown Fort Worth, was foreclosed on.
Bradbury’s husband has also lost his maintenance job, and the new owner is trying to get the couple to sign a new lease, for more than twice the rent. Other residents are being asked to reapply for their apartments because the records of their leases were destroyed in a fire.
The company that manages the complex said it’s not trying to evict anyone — it just wants to know who’s living in the complex and make sure they have a valid lease. Some of the residents haven’t responded when asked to reapply or produce a copy of their lease. The company says it has sunk thousands of dollars into repairs.
“We’ve tried to be real fair,” said Robbie Burns, a manager with Legend Asset Management. “Sandy Oaks is a very unusual case.”
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“…because the records of their leases were destroyed in a fire.”
How convenient.
If they can’t bring their copy of the lease, then too bad. That’s just stupid.
And nobody is going to pay double the rent. That’s just stupid as well.
I meant “…too bad for the renter.”
We have the same sort of problem with vacant CRE in San Diego, as evidenced by “For Lease” signs on the corner of every strip mall and office complex. I am pretty sure this is also the story with residential, but the banksters have done a better job of holding inventory off the market on the residential side.
The problem of empty office space
Slump could hamper broader recovery
By Casey Ross
Globe Staff / April 3, 2010
Even as other parts of the economy show signs of life, the commercial real estate market in Boston will remain depressed, with a vicious cycle of falling rents and foreclosures preventing construction of new buildings that would create jobs.
The ongoing slump threatens to keep a broader recovery in check, as the industry is a significant contributor to the overall economy. New buildings bring additional property taxes to beleaguered municipalities, income to vendors that provide construction materials or office supplies, and wages that construction workers in turn cycle through the economy.
“It’s going to be a long process for the market to come back,’’ said Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics with Moody’s Economy.com. “The economy can still plug along if commercial real estate doesn’t turn around right away, but it’s certainly going to be a big drain on growth.’’
The markers point downward. Rents for office space have dropped five quarters in a row. Average asking prices in Boston’s down town business district have fallen by nearly a third since the start of 2008 and are at $42.46 per square foot, according to CB Richard Ellis, a real estate services firm. Landlords are struggling to fill large empty spaces created by steep job losses during the past two years.
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Investment Banking
Warren Says to Expect Commercial Real Estate Trouble
March 30, 2010, 4:50 am
Crisis
Elizabeth Warren, head of Congressional oversight for TARP and a major backer of the idea of a consumer protection agency, told CNBC on Monday that the U.S. economy still had a hard road ahead.
“By the end of the year, about half of all commercial real estate loans are gonna by underwater, and they are concentrated in the midsize banks,” she said. (Short-sellers, at least, may have something to look forward to.) “We now have 2,988 banks that have these dangerous concentrations of commercial real estate lending.”
She said that the banks’ exposure to shaky commercial real estate would have two upshots: 1) since they were already suffering since the subprime crisis, their stability might be affected; and 2) the midsize banks “are the banks that are supposed to be doing small business lending, and when they’re getting a sock in the teeth over over commercial real estate loans, they’re not in a position to be lending to small business,” Ms. Warren told CNBC.
“I think we have another very serious economic problem that we’re going to have to resolve in the next three years,” she said.
Asked whether things would return to normal this year, she responded: “I don’t think so.”
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Resolved Question
Why do we have the Federal Reserve? It’s illegal according to the Constitution…..?
Article 1, Section 8 states that “Congress shall have the power to create money and regulate the value thereof”. Congress no longer has anything to do with the process.
All The Federal Reserve does is print money and for some reason charges interest for doing that. Obama won’t do a single thing about it, neither will a single President ever do anything about it.
It makes me mad!
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Get over it.
Congress has the right to delegate that authority, and has done so to the Fed, a wholly legislatively created entity.
The Congress can change it any time they like. The President has nothing to do with it aside from signing any bill to that effect.
For those who have “gold standard” fantasies. Going back to a gold standard, while it would impose greater discipline on the economy which would be a good thing, is impossible without triggering a for real global depression. There’s not enough gold in the world to back our present economy, let alone in US holding (unless we can get gold’s price up to over $9000/ounce).
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The FED is the greatest scam known to mankind. In fact, I bet if you exhumed all of the original bankers involved in its formation you would see pinch marks all over their bodies. Forensic analysis would reveal that these ‘injuries’ occurred in 1913. When they pinched themselves in total disbelief that this scam had actually become reality. That their families, already wealthy beyond belief, would remain royalty in perpetuity. Not even a degenerate son-in-law could undermine this.
Great work if you can find it.
As to not having enough Au. Doesn’t anyone with even a partially intact brain stem realize that this is one of the checks & balances of using real money?
Not to worry! Widely predicted collapses seldom materialize.
CHINADAILY
Economy
Collapse predicted as housing prices continue to soar
(Xinhua)
Updated: 2010-04-03 17:57
BEIJING - Predictions have flooded the Internet in China this week about the country’s runaway property market collapsing in 2011.
Much of the chatter voiced little concern about the possible severe consequences, instead expressed hope for the crash to come.
Coming at a time when complaints about mounting housing prices are on the rise, the online debate has drawn enormous attention from ordinary residents, industry insiders, experts and received substantive media coverage.
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Worrying impact of price hike
Speculation started after a comparison was made between China’s property market and that of Japan. In 1991, Japan’s property bubble burst. Following the Japanese yen’s appreciation in 1985, large amounts of capital flowed into the country’s real estate, inflating prices artificially which eventually led to a burst.
Two decades later, some say the same is happening in China, both in sequence and pace: the yuan appreciated in 2005, capital flowed to property markets in 2006, resulting in soaring housing prices in 2007, and now the burst is imminent.
Hope for a crash?
Feng Zhichao, a thirty-something man, has been living in Beijing for 12 years, since starting college. He is working for a foreign company with a salary of 5,000 yuan ($732.4) per month and pays 750 yuan per month for rent for a room less than 10 square meters.
“House prices in Beijing are crazy! I wish the property market would collapse this year! Then I could buy an apartment of my own in the city and be in the position to think about marriage,” he said. “If I were wealthy enough, I would not care about home prices,” he added.
Previously owned homes in Beijing stood at 14,000 yuan per square meter in the first quarter of this year, much higher than about 9,300 yuan in the same period of last year, according to the local statistics bureau.
Dong Wei, a 27 year-old Beijinger and an employee with a foreign IT company, said: “I don’t believe the property market will crash, as the government will not let that happen. It would be disastrous.”
Housing prices will definitely continue to rise, he added.
With a monthly salary of about 8,000 yuan, Dong is seeking a second home of about 80 square meters in the Yayuncun area, around the North Fourth Ring Road in Beijing. Prices of second hand homes in the area averaged 25,000 to 30,000 yuan per square meter.
He said housing prices in his target communities were around 20,000 yuan per square meter before the Spring Festival in February, and increased by 7,000 yuan per square meter during the recent two months. “Despite and because of the fast price growth, I will buy soon if I can find a proper one,” he said.
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The China property bubble right on the heels of the U.S. property bubble is truly surreal. Of course, many HBBers (including me) would argue that it is just another facet of the same credit bubble that is already blowing up in many other countries.
If Morgan Stanley incurred the biggest loss in the history of Wall Street, then why aren’t they bankrupt with their former employees joining the throngs of other SOL Americans in the unemployment lines?
$9 bn may be the largest loss in the history of Wall Street, but it sure does pale in comparison to the $700 bn TARP, not to mention the magnitude of the other Fed life support measures!
A system whose incentive structure rewards massive losses with taxpayer-funded bailouts is ultimately doomed to collapse.
* The Wall Street Journal
* BOOKSHELF
* APRIL 2, 2010
Betting Against the Herd
By BRIAN M. CARNEY
Howie Hubler, “the highest-status bond trader at Morgan Stanley” in the waning years of the real-estate bubble, makes his appearance about three-quarters of the way through “The Big Short,” Michael Lewis’s captivating account of the “inside” forces that led to the bubble bursting in the fall of 2008 and to Wall Street itself nearly collapsing. Mr. Hubler’s job in the book is to serve a foil: As the heroes of Mr. Lewis’s account are preparing to make their fortunes by betting against the housing market, Mr. Hubler makes a $16 billion bet the wrong way, putting billions of dollars of Morgan Stanley’s capital at risk by insuring mortgage-backed securities against default.
“Hubler and his traders,” Mr. Lewis writes, “thought they were smart guys put on earth to exploit the market’s stupid inefficiencies. Instead, they simply contributed more inefficiency,” by pumping more money into the subprime-mortgage business than the financial system could possibly support. Not to mention leaving Morgan Stanley with a $9 billion trading loss—”the single biggest trading loss,” by Mr. Lewis’s reckoning, “in the history of Wall Street.”
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I finished the book this morning. Very easy read.
Towards the end of the book, Lewis made the point that EVERYONE involved in the subprime MBS trade made money. It didn’t matter what side of the trade the individual players on Wall Street took, they still walked away set for life. Hubler (and others like him) walked away with huge bonuses, even though they sank their employer and shareholders.
Which has been corporate strategy since the 1980s.
Serve no one, not your customers, not your employees, not your shareholders, not your investors, not the city, county, state, country where you are located. Serve no one but yourself.
The corporation exists only to enrich the CxO and BODs and their Wall St. insiders.
Screw the customer.
Screw the shareholders.
Screw the country.
Enrich yourselves at everyone else’s expense.
Put the U.S. on the fast track back to Third World status.
Maybe if we pray hard enough, a similar scandal will erupt in Islam. It would be great if we could eliminate both of the major long-lived Middle Age religious scourges, Catholicism and Islam, from the face of the planet early on in the Third Millennium.
* The Wall Street Journal
* OPINION: DECLARATIONS
* APRIL 2, 2010
The Catholic Church’s Catastrophe
* By PEGGY NOONAN
There is an interesting and very modern thing that often happens when individuals join and rise within mighty and venerable institutions. They come to think of the institution as invulnerable—to think that there is nothing they can do to really damage it, that the big, strong, proud establishment they’re part of can take any amount of abuse, that it doesn’t require from its members an attitude of protectiveness because it’s so strong, and has lasted so long.
And so people become blithely damaging. It happened the past decade on Wall Street, where those who said they loved what the street stood for, what it symbolized in American life, took actions that in the end tore it down, tore it to pieces. They loved Wall Street and killed it. It happens with legislators in Washington who’ve grown to old and middle age in the most powerful country in the world, and who can’t get it through their heads that the actions they’ve taken, most obviously in the area of spending, not only might deeply damage America but actually do it in.
And it happened in the Catholic Church, where hundreds of priests and bishops thought they could do anything, any amount of damage to the church, and it would be fine. “Thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” That is Mathew 16:18, of course, Christ’s great promise to his church. Catholics in the pews have been repeating it a lot lately as they—we—absorb the latest round of scandal stories. “The old church will survive.” But we see more clearly than church leaders the damage the scandals have done.
It is damage that will last at least a generation. It is an actual catastrophe, a rolling catastrophe that became public first in the United States, now in Europe. It has lowered the standing, reputation and authority of the church. This will have implications down the road.
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Maybe if we pray hard enough, a similar scandal will erupt in Islam. It would be great if we could eliminate both of the major long-lived Middle Age religious scourges, Catholicism and Islam, from the face of the planet early on in the Third Millennium.
It is a nice sounding theory that when you separate the Christian Church from the state, you get stability/freedom/utopia, but it does not pass the common sense test.
For instance, I know it is the first words out of any atheist’s mouth when you try to talk with them about Jesus, “Explain the Inquisition,” and “Look how evil the church was!” and “Look what they did in the name of Jesus!”
It is true that about 500 years ago, Christian fanatics killed about 10,000 people over a 100 year time period (about 100/year) in the name of the Roman Catholic church. It is a shame on the record of an organization that claims to be promoting the ministry of Christ. Now compare this record to the example of the countries that have officially done away with religion. To the countries that have outright banned religion and imprisoned those who try to practice it (the ultimate test of the theory of separation of church and state).
Yes, I am talking about Communist countries. In the Communist Manifesto, Engel and Marx declared, “Communism abolishes all religion.” In my father’s lifetime, the numbers of people that officially atheist countries have murdered in the name of no-religion is staggering; the USSR slaughtered 20 million, China slaughtered 10 million, Communist Cambodia slaughtered 2 million, Communist North Korea has/continues to murder untold numbers, Communist Cuba has/continues to murder untold numbers, the list goes on.
The grand total is over 50 million dead in the last 80-year time span (over 600,000/year). Even comparing the worst time of “Christian Persecution” to an average time of a just one country that has officially and forcefully separated church and state, the conclusion is obvious: Christianity has a huge calming influence on government.
“It is a nice sounding theory that when you separate the Christian Church from the state, you get stability/freedom/utopia, but it does not pass the common sense test.”
I was not proposing to eliminate all Christianity; my relatively modest goal is merely to eradicate Catholicism: sponsor of the Crusades and the Inquisition, and leading protector of child-molesting priests.
Why not eradicate child-molesting priests? Catholicism as a whole isn’t the problem here.
I would be far more convinced by your statement if the church did not have a historical code of silence on this issue.
With due respect, protection of child molesting priests?
How about a generalized statement, the protection of child molesters by any one!
But, it is kind of like the law about keeping convicted child molesters 2,000 feet away from a school.
Good heavens, there are 10 child molesters for every convicted child molester, is there not?
Having a convicted child molester near a school is less dangerous than having anyone else near a school because that child molester will know he is being watched. And the rest believe they are unseen, uncatchable, and not likely to be prosecuted if caught!
Protection of child molesters becomes all the more insidious when it is carried out by a venerable religious institution whose doctrine implies that child molesting is a great evil. The Catholic church makes sovereign propagandists look like saints by comparison.
“The grand total is over 50 million dead in the last 80-year time span (over 600,000/year). Even comparing the worst time of “Christian Persecution” to an average time of a just one country that has officially and forcefully separated church and state, the conclusion is obvious: Christianity has a huge calming influence on government.”
I was thinking you served up some damning evidence that Christianity has a huge exacerbating influence on uncontrolled, immiserizing population explosions.
When you consider that 100,000,000 people a year die in the world, it seems of little significance that 50,000,000 died in the last 80 years, from any cause!
Ah, the beauty of numbers , and the purposes for which they are used.
When you consider that 100,000,000 people a year die in the world, it seems of little significance that 50,000,000 died in the last 80 years, from any cause!
Unless you had a son, daughter, brother, sister, mother, father, etc. as part of those 50 million…
“Yes, I am talking about Communist countries. In the Communist Manifesto, Engel and Marx declared, “Communism abolishes all religion.” In my father’s lifetime, the numbers of people that officially atheist countries have murdered in the name of no-religion is staggering; the USSR slaughtered 20 million, China slaughtered 10 million, Communist Cambodia slaughtered 2 million, Communist North Korea has/continues to murder untold numbers, Communist Cuba has/continues to murder untold numbers, the list goes on.”
Communism ( and any other dictatorial regime ) is just another religions. They all have exactly the same trappings:
- Omnipotent, all wise, all seeing prophets: Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, etc.
- Holy books that everyone must read: Mein Kampf, the Little Red Book, the various ramblings of Stalin and Lenin, etc.
- Icons ( usually giant murals of the wise prophets listed above, red stars, swastikas, etc. )
- Ostracism or other unpleasant consequences for anyone who deviates from the orthodox beliefs.
- Omnipotent, all wise, all seeing prophets: Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler, etc.
“TrueBeliever’s™ / TrueDeceiver’s ™”
The short list, …any thing contemporary, without bias?
OK, I’ll just toss in… MONSANTO , just for giggles!
Decisions, decisions, decisions…(Do you believe that you only have some much “vital energy”?)
1. Audit the FED
2. Abolish Catholics & Islam
3. Buy a house (@a price that “make sense”) in Rancho Bernado
Go… (we anxiously await the results)
I’m on board with 1. and 2.
Not so much 3. until home prices drop by another 50 percent.
D’Heygers never bought a house:
Published: April 3, 2010
Updated: 7:07 p.m.
Longtime Mater Dei custodian, benefactor dies at 95
find, seek, a renter!
By PETER SCHELDEN, CINDY ARORA AND COURTNEY PERKES
THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
He sought ways to improve the school, whether in prestige or efficiency. Once, he entered the school gym and saw the basketball team practicing on half the court. So D’Heygers decided cut the lights on the other half to save money.
Happy Easter, even to those living in Colorado City, AZ
“Every small gift is helpful,” he said.
Where Wall St. meets Main St. circa 2010:
“I’m not giving kids alcohol, drugs, cigarettes,” he said. “I want to give them a little wonder, you know?”
P.S. Make no little plans. They have no magic to stir men’s blood and probably themselves will not be realized. Make big plans; aim high in hope and work, remembering that a noble, logical diagram once recorded will never die, but long after we are gone will be a living thing, asserting itself with ever-growing insistency. Remember that our sons and grandsons are going to do things that would stagger us. Let your watchword be order and your beacon beauty. Think big.
Daniel Burnham, Chicago architect. (1846-1912)
“asserting itself with ever-growing insistency” = Moby Dick right?
Here’s a novel idea but not unique considering it was Jesus reason for coming…..
Eradicate theology and stifle the hypocrites who engage in theological dick measuring contests. Fallwell, Robertson and Ted “I’m not gay” Haggard and other recent nutjobs come to mind.
“The least shall be first”…@ least from their POV…
It looks like the Wall Street TBTF banks may be nearing “escape velocity” (from paying any price for the mess they made):
The Financial Times
Summers sees ongoing job creation
By Chris Giles and Martin Wolf in London
Published: April 2 2010 22:34 | Last updated: April 2 2010 22:34
The US economy is poised for self-sustaining growth and should continue creating jobs in the months ahead, Larry Summers, senior economic adviser to Barack Obama, said in his most upbeat assessment of the economic climate.
Speaking in London ahead of Friday’s strong US payroll figures, which showed the US economy created 162,000 jobs in March, Mr Summers said the administration’s policies had underpinned confidence and fostered investment: “I think the economy appears to be moving towards escape velocity. You hear a lot less talk of W-shaped recoveries and double-dips than you did six months ago.”
The March data, which showed unemployment unchanged at 9.7 per cent, will add to Mr Summers’ confidence in his prediction last December that the economy would stop losing jobs by this spring.
The US administration still stresses that there are challenges ahead and points to the tendency for recovery from asset price recessions to be slow. But he put part of his confidence in the economy down to the still-significant stimulus coming from the monetary loosening during the crisis and the government spending that will continue throughout 2010.
“The process of recovery seems to have started earlier and more vigorously than was common in such crises,” Mr Summers said.
But he also stressed the positive effects on confidence of signing healthcare reform into law last month and other controversial domestic policies.
“The sense that the country’s long-term problems – healthcare, energy, education, long-run fiscal deficits – are being addressed. All of that should increase a generalised sense of confidence and, too, will be a source of stimulus to the economy.” Jobs growth could still be patchy and if that were the case, Mr Summers indicated that the administration would act to foster higher growth and more job creation.
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May the world be protected from politicans making predictions about the economy!
Never ever make a comment about the economy that will make the public think that the administration is not properly doing the job.. Always point out the good, ignore the bad , and hope for the best.
If there are two sets of facts , ignore that that does not meet your requirement, and smile when people ask about the other set of facts!
It is always a good time to buy, whatever it is you want to buy, for if you don’t buy, I don’t get paid.
Oh, well
What utter bull crap. It took 4 years for the S&L disaster to sort itself out and another 3 years for the economy to get better for Main St. and J6P.
And that was half the size of this mess.
Paper Economy
Ticking prime bomb: Fannie Mae delinquencies rise
The level of mortgage delinquency at Fannie Mae continues to mount.
By SoldAtTheTop, Guest blogger / April 1, 2010
Decades from now the summer of 2008 will likely be remembered to mark the turning point where legislative blundering took an otherwise serious financial crisis and molested it into an epic financial disaster.
‘SoldAtTheTop’ is not a pessimist by nature but a true skeptic and realist who prefers solid and sustained evidence of fundamental economic recovery to ‘Goldilocks,’ ‘Green Shoots,’ ‘Mustard Seeds,’ and wholesale speculation.
By fully assuming the liabilities of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two colossal and corrupt (and conduit of corruptness funneling junk Countrywide Financial loans onto the implied balance sheet of the federal government) government sponsored enterprises, the federal government, led by Treasury Secretary Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, thrust taxpayers into an abyss of insolvency with one mighty shove.
The following chart shows what Fannie Mae terms the count of “Seriously Delinquent” loans as a percentage of all loans on their books.
Notice that despite all the government gimmicks and manipulation the level of delinquency at these two mortgage giants continues to mount.
It’s important to understand that Fannie Mae does NOT segregate foreclosures from delinquent loans when reporting these numbers.
“Ticking Prime Bomb”
Cute.
Fannie Mae’s Portfolio Contracts Again.
Don’t Expect That to Continue in the Months Ahead
by Adam Quinones
Fannie Mae’s mortgage investment portfolio shrank for the second straight month in February while the most recent available data showed delinquencies in loans held by the nation’s largest provider of home mortgages are continuing to rise at an almost inexorable rate.
Fannie Mae’s Monthly Summary for February reports that the gross mortgage portfolio declined to a value of $725.9 billion compared to $735.21 billion in January, a decrease of 14.2 percent. One year earlier the portfolio was sized at $784.72 billion, so despite many fluctuations over the year, February’s figures represent an annualized one-year decrease of 31.2 percent.
The total book of business of the firm was $3.230 trillion at the end of February compared to $3.227 in January, a compound growth of 1.0 percent.
In January, the last month for which figures are available, 5.52 percent of the loans Fannie Mae guarantees were delinquent, an increase of 0.14 percent from December. In January 2009 the delinquency rate was 2.77 percent. In January the non-credit enhanced portion of the portfolio had a rate of 3.83 percent compared to 3.67 percent in December and 1.63 percent in January 2009. The delinquencies in the credit enhanced portion stood at 13.68 percent compared to 13.51 percent the month before and 7.24 percent a year earlier. Multifamily delinquencies increased from 0.63 percent in December to 0.69 percent in January. One year earlier it was 0.27 percent.
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Examiner
Chicken Little doth protest too much, perhaps
April 1, 8:38
AMDC Mortgage Examiner
York Van Nixon III
Is that rain or geese flying by?
Contrary to predictions of financial implosion by worrywarts on Capitol Hill, access to mortgage money in the Washington, D.C. area did not disappear yesterday.
Last month, Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke reminded Congress of his intention to halt (quantitative easing) purchasing of mortgage-backed securities at the end of March. For those who missed my article (March Madness) on this two weeks ago, mortgage-backed securities are bundles of mortgages sold on the secondary markets to entities like GSEs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as well as other buyers of blocks of mortgages.
In 2008, the Federal Treasury took control of Fannie Mae by forcing it into conservatorship to forestall complete collapse of the market. Since that time, our Treasury has struggled to keep its wards (failing financial institutions) solvent by buying a large portion of their weekly auctioned securities. With some of the largest banks showing signs of improvement (their stock prices are soaring), the Fed appears to be confident in easing off the gas pedal they have had floored since the last quarter of 2008.
There is no need to worry. You can still get a mortgage, but rates are up more than a quarter of a percentage point from this time last month. Thirty-year rates closed at 5.26 percent yesterday. Maybe this is good news for those on fixed incomes, but it may be bad news if you have been waiting for rates to fall. The Obama’s Administration’s strategy to spend our way out of the mess left from eight years of “irrational exuberance” seems to be working. Now it is time to start paying the bill. The Federal Treasury’s diminished presence in the secondary market will ultimately put pressure on private banks by forcing them to hold more debt in their portfolios. You can be sure they are going to offset this burden by charging higher fees and rates. Haven’t they been doing this since last year? Perhaps they were just practicing. Cluck! Cluck!
“The Federal Treasury’s diminished presence in the secondary market will ultimately put pressure on private banks by forcing them to hold more debt in their portfolios.”
Did the Fed and the Treasury merge their operations and I missed the announcement?
Vol. 74/No. 14
April 12, 2010
Residential mortgage
crisis is looming
BY SETH GALINSKY
A new residential mortgage crisis is looming. Its effects could have devastating consequences for millions of working people.
In spite of talk about an economic “recovery” and government programs to modify loan terms, a wave of foreclosures is expected in the years ahead that could dwarf the 2008 surge in mortgage defaults.
A March 12 Washington Post article warned that as many as 7 million house and apartment owners today are “seriously delinquent” but have not yet had their residences foreclosed or repossessed.
Banks are holding off on taking action for fear that putting a massive number of residences up for sale will depress the market even further and undercut their profits. On March 24 the U.S. Commerce Department announced that sales of new residences in February fell to their lowest amount on record.
“Banks have remained in foreclosure paralysis,” Sandeep Bordia, head of U.S. residential credit strategy at Barclays Capital told the Post, adding that this could not continue “indefinitely.”
Some 11.3 million people—about one-quarter of all mortgage holders in the United States—owe more on their mortgages than their residences are currently worth, due to the decline in housing prices over the last several years.
A previous plan by the Barack Obama administration to buy time for people having difficulty with mortgage payments is widely seen as a failure.
The “Home Affordable Modification Program,” was launched a year ago with promises of helping 3 million to 4 million people lower their mortgage payments. Instead, only 170,000 people have qualified for permanent changes and 1.3 million are enrolled in trial programs. More than half of those who were granted lower mortgage payments re-defaulted on their loans within nine months.
On March 26 the White House announced a new plan. But, showing the lack of confidence in ruling class circles, the New York Times article reporting the plan’s details opened with a question: “Will it work this time?”
If this is true, than the PTB are about to find out about wages being directly tied their own well being.
You cannot have a 75% consumer driven economy when you keep pushing wages down. And they’ve been doing it for 30 years. Sooner or later, the SWHTF.
If people insist on spending more than they earn, it doesn’t matter how much they earn. Go ahead and raise wages to the moon..
Anyway, where would the increased wage money coming from? Business profits? Businesses are not exactly raking it in from what I hear, and it’s probably not a good time to tighten the screws..
While all involved parties will thrash about in a futile quest for some magical solution, this current problem with people’s inability to pay their mortgages will work itself out in it’s own good time. Some will survive it and some won’t. C’est la vie.
Should the Council support, by motion, the Carbon Limits and Energy for America’s Renewal (CLEAR) Act?
1. In December 2009, Senator Cantwell introduced the CLEAR Act which would cap the emissions of greenhouse gases in 2012 by requiring oil, coal and natural gas companies to purchase monthly permits that would allow them to sell their fuels.
2. Seventy-five percent of the money from the permits would be returned to the public every month in the form of a dividend check and the remainder would go towards renewable energy studies and conservation programs.
ANALYSIS
1. Proponents believe that by driving up the cost of fossil fuel and making renewables more competitive, it will cause the emissions to decline.
3. Under this proposal, consumers will receive an annual rebate check for about $1100. Once the additional cost of the fuel is deducted it is estimated that the consumer will still be ahead by at least $100 per year.
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So they propose to raise the cost of the goods by $1K, give the consumer $1.1 K, and the consumer will be happy to get the $100 that he may assume.
But how is the low income person going to pay the $1K before receiving the $1.1K? And is there income tax payable on the “dividend”?
And they passed the approval of the letter supporting the act!
That makes no sense. Government is our friend. It has nothing but our best interests at heart. Why would it saddle the poor with such a burden?
..Once the additional cost of the fuel is deducted it is estimated that the consumer will still be ahead by at least $100 per year….
Given the known accuracy of government’s budgetary estimates, it’s safe to assume the $100 we will be “ahead” (!?) will actually cost us about ten times that.
http://www.desertconservative.com/2010/04/02/democrat-led-congress-and-obama-no-friends-of-homeowners/comment-page-1/#comment-16241
A License Required for your HOUSE?
If you own your home you really need to check this out. At the end of this email is the Google link to verify. If the country thinks the housing market is depressed now, wait until everyone sees this; no one will be buying homes in the future.
We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has passed the House of Representatives and being considered by the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington ! This Congress and whoever on their staffs that write this junk are truly out to destroy the middle class of the U.S.A ….
A License will be required for your house…no longer just for cars and mobile homes….Thinking about selling your house. Take a look at H.R. 2454 (Cap and Trade bill). This is unbelievable! Only the beginning from this administration! Home owners take note & tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!
link for entire article. renters take a bow!
I believe the NAR fixed this before Cap & Trade was passed. IIRC there is a PDF on their website.
I’m no fan of O, Congress or NAR, but would bet this is internet noise. I’m a political atheist.
Ann-
I am not a Repuke anymore, since they are amoral and are disconnected from Main St. Dig into this if you so desire to, and report back if I’m wrong. People put things out there, and it takes on a life of its own.
A License Required for your HOUSE?
If you own your home you really need to check this out. At the end of this email is the Google link to verify. If the country thinks the housing market is depressed now, wait until everyone sees this; no one will be buying homes in the future.
We encourage you to read the provisions of the Cap and Trade Bill that has passed the House of Representatives and being considered by the Senate. We are ready to join the next march on Washington ! This Congress and whoever on their staffs that write this junk are truly out to destroy the middle class of the U.S.A ….
A License will be required for your house…no longer just for cars and mobile homes….Thinking about selling your house. Take a look at H.R. 2454 (Cap and Trade bill). This is unbelievable! Only the beginning from this administration! Home owners take note & tell your friends and relatives who are home owners!
i was reading about weird taxes governments have applied over the course of history.. there have been beard taxes (facial hair) and hearth taxes.. all sorts of things.
With the hearth tax people were camouflaging or covering their chimneys so walk-by inspectors couldn’t see them.
That one was repealed when some bakery, while trying to save money, had jury rigged it’s ovens to exhaust through a neighboring building and started a fire, killing a bunch of people and destroying lots of property.
Now, I know there is someone who can “RE-Interpreted” this to a higher level of Gov’t right?
“It’s not illegal to have a pet at the beach, but when you’re running a business and letting people pose with the animals for money, that transitions that fine line there,” Workman said.
Updated: April 3, 2010 1:58 p.m.
Main Beach’s ‘bird man’ given warning
By CLAUDIA KOERNER THE ORANGE COUNTY REGISTER
I read in one of my economics classes at Cal, that nothing can protect your home for foreclosure if you owe nothing on it, as the taxes, caused by inflation, will eventually over-ride your ability to pay in the long run, for most people that is!
California has the good old Prop 13 at the moment, which I voted against, back then.
I voted against it, as I considered it inflationary in regards to home pricing.
but, it turned out not to be as bad as the immigration from other areas as that caused the home prices to inflate even more than Prop 13.
The next thing I see as highly inflationary is the “Green ” building , solar energy, and renewable energy systems.
the cost of these system duplicate the present energy systems requiring the present energy system to have to inflate sale prices to cover both lost sales, and higher purchase prices from those clean energy sources.
I hope I am wrong, but at 87, it does not worry me very much.
“I hope I am wrong, but at 87, it does not worry me very much”
Wow, dude, I’m 53…will I lose faith as well?
Green energy will remain a costly luxury beyond the time it takes for Hwy to turn 87..