April 13, 2010

The Hog Is A Lot Smaller In California

The Orange County Business Journal reports from California. “Sitting on a seaside cliff near Corona del Mar’s Inspiration Point, 3729 Ocean Blvd. counts 7,000 square feet of spectacular views, an elevator, library, gym and wine tasting room with design flourishes courtesy of a noted area architect. The three-story home, dubbed Crown of the Sea, also has a sizeable $25 million price tag, making it the third-most expensive existing home for sale in the Newport Beach area. But Crown of the Sea’s asking price is $5 million cheaper than it was in January, when it first was put up for sale. ‘We (lowered the price) to show the owner is motivated,’ said Jason Morrison, a broker with Windermere Real Estate who is listing the home. ‘He realizes the market conditions.’”

“For more expensive homes, it’s still ‘a buyers market,’ said Steven Thomas, president of Aliso Viejo-based brokerage Altera Real Estate, in a monthly housing report. For the most expensive homes, it’s even more of a buyer’s market. Through mid-March, there were about 330 homes priced more than $4 million up for sale in the county. Only 12 of those homes had sales pending, giving prospective wealthy buyers plenty of local options, according to Altera’s data.”

“At Dana Point’s Headlands at the Strand development, sellers are trying new ways to draw wealthy buyers, including a pair of auctions slated for this week. An auction set for Saturday lists two homes previously offered at $15 million. The homes have a minimum bid of $6.9 million and are set to be sold to the highest bidder above that, according to auctioneer Concierge Auctions LLC of West Palm Beach, Fla.”

“Not all prospective sellers of trophy homes are rushing to discount their properties. A few notable owners, such as software executive Frank Pritt—owner of the $75 million-valued Portabello estate in Corona del Mar—appear to have taken their homes off the market rather than cut their prices.”

The Voice of Orange County. “The federal government has funneled millions to the city of Santa Ana since the beginning of last year hoping to save neighborhoods from the blighting effects of mass foreclosures. The city has used that money to buy, rebuild and put families into a total of eight previously foreclosed homes. ‘Most of the impacts of this program are anecdotal,’ said Paul Habibi, lecturer at the UCLA Anderson School of Management.”

“To date, exactly two borrowers in San Diego have been given down payment assistance. Then there’s the city of Los Angeles. Of the 32,000 foreclosed homes that have blighted the city, only four have been rehabilitated. The program simply doesn’t have the kind of money needed to stabilize the grantees’ housing markets, Habibi said. The real impact, according to Habibi, is the image boost politicians get when they announce these kinds of rescues. ‘It’s politically favorable to do something like this in the community,’ Habibi said.”

“Then there’s the looming threat of what Habibi calls ‘moral hazard’ - when a homeowner defaults and is then rescued, it discourages neighbors from keeping up with their own payments, Habibi said. That could end with the cycle repeating itself until government intervention stops.”

“Donald Booth, Economist at Chapman University, also thinks the program does more harm than good. NSP can actually drive neighborhood home values down by selling homes at under market value, Booth said. Phil Schaeffer, a local realtor and member of California Association of Realtors, was shocked when he saw a home that ANR rehabilitated sold for $400,000 that could have easily gone for $500,000.”

“‘That home sold way under market,’ Schaeffer said. ‘Way, way under market.’”

The San Gabriel Valley Tribune. “For Realtor Chris Vigil and his peers in the business, life as a broker of homes is different these days - and constantly changing. ‘Now, if you don’t treat what you are doing as a serious business, you will not survive,’ he said.”

“That’s very much in contrast to the good old days for sellers, buyers, banks and brokers. That’s when a home would go on the market and balloon in value. Everyone got a piece of the pie. ‘Everyone was eating high on the hog … now the hog is a lot smaller,’ Vigil said.”

“Now, home inventories are low. Values are still down. Defaulting sellers are trying to squeeze every last penny out of their value-dwindling property. And first-time homebuyers continue to buy.In the meantime, Realtors have had to adjust to a rapidly changing real estate market. First off, there’s a lot less of them. At the end of 2007, the California Association of Realtors had 199,168 members. By the end of the first quarter of 2010, that number had dropped by 46,175 to 152,993.”

“Many simply weren’t in it for the long haul, said Monrovia Realtor Tom Adams. Before the recession, ‘It was a matter of sticking a sign out in the front yard to count the offers, watch the price go up and sell it,’ he said.”

“For many Realtors in the San Gabriel Valley and Whittier areas, short sales now comprise 50 to 70 percent of their business. Realtors sometimes take on another role, Vigil said: counselor. ‘You’re with clients with three, four, five months, preparing them for the transition from living in a house they thought was their home for life. And slowly, it’s being taken away from them. There’s a lot of tears in the beginning.’”

The Press Enterprise. “The opportunity to buy or lease a big-box property in Inland Southern California apparently got better in the first quarter. Veteran commercial real estate executives are reporting heavy activity in the first three months of 2010, with an unusually high number of deals at prices that would have been considered absurd a couple of years ago.”

“Some say the lease rates for distribution centers in Riverside and San Bernardino counties roll back the clock way farther than that. ‘It’s unprecedented. You’ve recalibrated pricing in the industrial sector back maybe 15 years,’ said Dave Burback, managing director for Grubb & Ellis’ Ontario office. ‘We never see that. We only see prices go up.’”

The Recordnet. “Short sales are the latest real estate trend. With a record number of homeowners looking to get out from under upside-down mortgages, short sales have begun to overtake foreclosure listings as the preferred sales method in the ailing housing industry. President Barack Obama on Monday added an incentive to the practice, announcing a $3,000 federal payment to short sellers who have failed to meet loan-modification requirements.”

“‘This is another way of saying the loan modification program failed,’ PMZ Real Estate manager Ben Balsbaugh said.”

“Homeowners must qualify for a short sale, which traditionally includes a hardship letter for why they can no longer afford the mortgage. Even hardship letters are beginning to fall by the wayside for some banks. ‘Some banks are great; others still are not,’ Manteca short sale expert Christine Papworth said, noting that she has 73 short sales in escrow. ‘Wachovia doesn’t even require a hardship letter anymore to get approval.’”

The Fresno Bee. “The developer of a beleaguered Clovis subdivision has filed for bankruptcy protection, leaving the neighborhood of large homes without finished streets and other improvements that were part of the original project. Los Angeles developer David Schwartzman, owner of…Patriot Homes, recently filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection in U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Fresno.”

“About a dozen homes are in varying stages of construction. Some are so damaged by weather and vandalism that they will need to be knocked down to their foundations, while others must have pieces removed and replaced, city officials said. In addition, the community also is not gated or enclosed and a homeowners association has not been established as originally planned. The project’s new homes likely will be smaller than those now in the tract to meet market demands.”

“But residents say they are not concerned about smaller homes, gates or a residents’ association. ‘I just want to see the neighborhood done,’ said Steven Rosa.”

“He said he is tiring of the overgrown weeds and would like built-out streets and other basic elements of a nice neighborhood. Neighbor Caroline Barsamian said getting the development finished will reduce vandalism. ‘Even bringing in smaller homes … as long as this gets developed,’ she said.”

The Salinas Californian. “In the course of four years and one Great Recession, an affordable housing plan north of Salinas went from model program to short sale. Back then, only 8 percent of Monterey County residents could afford to buy a median-priced home in the area, according to the California Realtors Association. That median price? $636,500.”

“Families with incomes between $76,080 and $114,000 a year for four people would be eligible to buy the houses, which were to sell between $300,000 and $500,000. But by the time the first 40 or so houses went onto the market in 2008, median home prices in the Salinas area had dropped more than 41 percent. That meant the ‘affordable’ homes weren’t much cheaper than the area’s $372,500 median price -and came with restrictions on the profits a buyer could earn when he or she moved and sold the house.”

“By February 2010, the median home price in the Salinas area hit $264,750, a 58 percent drop from the year the project was approved. In February, the company was forced to sell 78 parcels at a loss of millions of dollars to cover its loans, a Salinas Californian review of property title transfers in the county revealed.”

“‘Everyone is going to take a big bath on this one,’ said William Silva, owner of Monterey-based Woodman Development Co., the developer of the project. ‘We are selling homes at 40 percent less than we thought,’ said Silva ruefully adding, ‘We have provided homes that are even more affordable than we imagined.’”

The Santa Cruz Sentinel. “The house is not large. It’s only 890 square feet. Vonda McCray-Hodges spent most of last year trying to hang onto it. The Hodges bought their home in 1998 for $265,000. They got an adjustable-rate mortgage from Merrill Lynch with interest at 6.625 percent for seven years. Their business was doing well, and Vonda opened a shop in Corralitos selling china, jewelry, art and vintage furniture. In 2004, Vonda, who handles the household finances, saw an opportunity to invest in her business and get a better deal on the mortgage. She made arrangements on the phone for a $460,000 adjustable-rate loan.”

“The required payment covered interest only for the first 10 years, with nothing toward the loan balance. The interest rate would change after two years, and there was a penalty if the loan were paid off early. To find a new loan, McCray-Hodges would turn to her nephew-in-law, who worked in the mortgage business. Before Christmas 2005, the papers were signed. Downey Savings and Loan in Newport Beach approved a $581,000 mortgage at 6.724 percent after the house on Casserly Road was appraised at $960,000.”

“The initial payment was an affordable $1,936 per month but after 15 months, the interest rate could change. It did, and the monthly payment exceeded $4,000. That meant the mortgage debt could increase instead of decrease. ‘I didn’t know it was in there,’ said McCray-Hodges. ‘I was not jetting to Paris. I was trying to make my financial future better.’”

“She tried selling on eBay after her landlord raised the rent on her collectibles shop. Her husband who had retired went back to work. But they couldn’t afford the higher mortgage payment. After exchanging letters and phone calls, the bank shifted $400,000 of the balance to the back of the loan, a balloon payment to be repaid when the home is sold. The interest rate was reduced to 3 percent, and the payment is a reasonable $1,350 a month.”

“McCray-Hodges went back to work aiming to make $1,200 a month. She works a couple nights a week at Macy’s in Capitola in the fine jewelry department and cares for her grandchildren while her daughter works. ‘It’s a miracle I got a job,’ she said, adding that she has also accepted a temporary position as a census-taker paying $22 an hour.”

“Her current payment will stay the same for five years. By then, she hopes the economy will be up and running. ‘You can’t quit,’ she said. ‘The door will open to something. I just have to keep the faith.’”

The Press Democrat. “A 45-year-old divorced mother of two, Connie Garrison hasn’t missed a single mortgage payment on her town house in Santa Rosa since she purchased the home in 2006. She usually writes the monthly check for more than the minimum due of $1,900 so that she’s paying more than just interest. As a manager for Kaiser Permanente Medical Group, Garrison also enjoys job security.”

“Nevertheless, she’s hoping to take advantage of President Barack Obama’s expanded program to help homeowners who owe more on their houses than what they are worth. Garrison remains hopeful that she can refinance her loan, which has an interest rate of 6.25 percent and is fixed for 10 years, before adjusting in 2016. Garrison said she didn’t realize she had such a loan when she bought her three-bedroom, two-bath town house in 2006 for $420,000, after she put 20 percent down with her own money and contributions from family members.”

“She described the lending process as ’sleazy,’ saying she felt overwhelmed by the paperwork and pressure to get into a home in what turned out to be the waning days of bidding wars and overinflated house prices.”

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said. ‘I had excellent credit, and I somehow walked away with the idea that my mortgage was a fixed rate. I was shocked to find it wasn’t. It makes me believe there are a lot more people who have adjustable-rate mortgages who don’t realize it.’”

“Ian Burns and his wife, Sonya Randrup, are hoping to refinance their Bennett Valley home, which they purchased in 2003 for $390,000 and is now worth about $40,000 less. After a previous refinancing, the couple owes about $410,000. ‘We’re not looking at getting out of paying our principal, but we sure would like it if they (their lender) talked to us,’ said Burns. ‘We have dynamite credit. We’ve never missed a payment. We work our asses off. At night, we look at each other and say, ‘What are we getting out of paying on this house?’”




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Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-13 07:21:06

‘According to the California Association of Realtors’ 2009-2010 Survey of California Home Sellers…67 percent of all sellers in California sold their homes because of difficulties meeting their mortgage obligations.’

‘Thirty percent of sellers in 2009 cited difficulty meeting the monthly mortgage as primary motivation to sell. Others cited job loss, 18 percent, and mortgage payment increases, 15 percent. By comparison, one in five sellers in 2008 cited the ability to meet their mortgage payment obligations, while 11 percent sold due to financial difficulties.’

‘Navigating the increasingly complex real estate transaction is much easier when sellers have professional help,’ said Jeff Bell, president of the Silicon Valley Association of Realtors. ‘There is a growing awareness among sellers that the current market is complicated.’

‘Bell said today’s sellers must compete not only with fellow homeowners who are selling, but also with the increased inventory of distressed properties offered in short sales or foreclosures. Without professional assistance, it is difficult for sellers to actively promote their homes to potential buyers. On average, homes sold for $20,958 less than the original asking price in 2009.’

Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 07:51:05

“Without professional assistance, it is difficult for sellers to actively promote their homes to potential buyers. On average, homes sold for $20,958 less than the original asking price in 2009.”

(aka..the same “professional assistance”, that that got them in this mess.)

;)

 
Comment by James
2010-04-13 08:15:29

Well, I’m looking at changing jobs and going to south OC or North San Diego. There were a large amount of sales late last year and now there isn’t much inventory. Prices are still out of control with respect to incomes and quite a few flips are showing on Redfin.

They also are showing the median family income as having jumped to over 100K on average per 2007. Not sure how much that has changed with the real estate bust. It also beats national averages for changes in income by a long way.

I’m still looking at well north of 100k in salary alone for the job down there. Commuting to Carlsbad.

Comment by SMF
2010-04-13 09:27:36

Way back about 2005, there was a huge bubble because so many people were buying homes. A large percentage of these buyers bought their homes as ‘investments’, speculating on a large price increase in the near future. This caused a shortage of homes for sale.

We know what happened after that, don’t we?

Substitute 2010 for 2005 and realize that the same thing is occurring right now. But is it really that ‘different’ a mere five years later?

I don’t think so.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-13 12:15:30

<iThey also are showing the median family income as having jumped to over 100K on average per 2007.

I wonder how much that has changed since the Realtors, Morgage Brokers and Building Boyz saw their incomes drop since then.

 
Comment by Martin Gale
2010-04-13 13:34:52

Thanks to my status as a “bitter” renter, I was recently able to leave the SF Bay Area and take a new job in the OC — for significantly higher pay and a significantly lower relative cost of living. And then there’s the weather….

Not trying to gloat — I just feel lucky. Were it not for stumbling upon this blog in early 2005, my circumstances could be quite different. Thank you, Ben, and everyone on the HBB.

MG

 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-04-13 14:05:04

Their salary data probably lags 4 years hehe. They might be citing bubble era salaries!

 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-04-13 08:55:50

awareness among sellers that the current market is complicated ??

And a legal mine field…

Comment by pismoclam
2010-04-13 17:00:55

Who is that jerk-off realtor Schaeffer commenting on market value? Market Value is what the willing buyer will pay for a piece of property and close. ‘Hey dummy, it’s only worth $400,000′. Don’t believe anyone who makes a commission !!!

Comment by SDGreg
2010-04-13 19:05:49

“Phil Schaeffer, a local realtor and member of California Association of Realtors, was shocked when he saw a home that ANR rehabilitated sold for $400,000 that could have easily gone for $500,000.”

Yeah, what a POS. We can’t possibly let anything sell for a price that might be marginally affordable to any but the upper few percenters and absolutely don’t let the market set the price if it’s lower than your preconceived notion of the preferred bloated price. Does that a-hole realize or care that most people can’t afford a $400k house, much less a $500k house, even in Los Angeles?

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Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-13 17:52:04

‘…it is difficult for sellers to actively promote their homes to potential buyers. On average, homes sold for $20,958 less than the original asking price in 2009.’

Malarky.

- Sell by ‘Dutch Auction’

- Start at a higher price than the level for which you believe it will sell.

- Lower the price by a few thousand each week until it sells.

- Advantage: Guaranteed to work.

- Disadvantages:
1) You may be unhappy with the results.
2) You may not be able to pay off your loan balance.
3) You may get unlucky and sell for less than if you set a reasonable higher price and waited for the right buyer.

 
Comment by Zeus Matuze
2010-04-13 22:43:36

RE: “The Crown of the Sea.”
May I humbly submit that it more like..”See the Crown of Thorns.”
Who, other than 10 illegal families, need to live in a 7000ft. house?

If you travel in the South of France, you’ll encounter the “Pays des Cathers”. You’ll encounter massive stone ‘castles’ in the last stages of disrepair. Most were Templars who were run out in the 12th Century.

So, it’s taken 900 years to “get crumbly.”

I give the “Crown” about 3 years to completely vanish…or about 4 times what the current USA will last.

 
 
Comment by cereal
2010-04-13 07:39:07

“The initial payment was an affordable $1,936 per month but after 15 months, the interest rate could change. It did, and the monthly payment exceeded $4,000. That meant the mortgage debt could increase instead of decrease. ‘I didn’t know it was in there,’ said McCray-Hodges. ‘I was not jetting to Paris. I was trying to make my financial future better.’”

This person is not fit to run a business. When She tied her personal finances into her company she should have been aware of the payment escalation possibility, much like she should be aware of provisions in the lease on her store.

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-13 08:09:24

‘the bank shifted $400,000 of the balance to the back of the loan, a balloon payment to be repaid when the home is sold’

This is the sort of thing that gets passed off as a ’success story’ these days. This elderly couple is really working to pay rent until the place goes back to the bank, IMO.

Comment by James
2010-04-13 08:21:46

We wondered if we were going Japan style. Here it is. Bombs like this will be going off for a long time as the bank goes after life insurance policies to pay off the notes.

 
Comment by JohnF
2010-04-13 11:20:24

No we know why there is so little affordable inventory out there…..

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 11:08:37

What really bopped me over my slender little head is the nature of the business. Collectibles. What in the Sam Hill is that? Well, I’ll tell you. It’s a trinket business. Which means that, even in the best of times, the market is limited.

Now, pardon me for being mean, but isn’t “find a need and fill it” one of the primary tenets of business? And, going along with that tenet, identifying trends in the economy and figuring out where your business fits in?

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-13 11:40:05

“Vonda opened a shop in Corralitos selling china, jewelry, art and vintage furniture.”

She’s in the “stuff” business, as am I. And I happen to know of one other blogger here who is also in that business. The “stuff” business has been around since the dawn of time. Some do well with it and actually make a living at it, for some it is a hobby. Every so often you hit a home run with an item and that’s what keeps us “stuff” dealers addicted. “Collectibles” is a weird area, though. It’s not exactly antiques and it’s not even vintage. Crap like Bradford collector plates and Betty Boop figurines made in China. Can’t give ‘em away. Sounds to me like she’s trying to do a mix, though. Jewelry and vintage furniture, especially the mid-century modern furniture, are still doing well if you have good pieces. During the boom you could sell just about anything. Now, not so much. But there’s still a market. A buddy of mine who dealt in coins learned everything he knew from his grandfather, who was a coin dealer during the Depression and never lacked for customers. And that was before the Internet. Go figure.

The market’s changing, though. Younger folks are not all that interested in antiques or collectibles. They do tend to like some of the mid-century modern stuff, though. The key to suriviving in the business is to stay lean and mean, don’t stack up too much inventory, always have a back-up. But, LOL, for folks in the business, telling them not to buy stuff is like telling them not to breathe. One old codger I used to know (passed away not long ago, I miss him) came over to my house to see some stuff he wanted and noticed I had my vehicle parked in the garage. He told me I must be sick, because to be a real dealer your garage had to be crammed to the gills with stuff and all cars parked outside.

Comment by Dave of the North
2010-04-13 12:14:09

“He told me I must be sick, because to be a real dealer your garage had to be crammed to the gills with stuff and all cars parked outside.”

And from there, it’s not many steps to being featured on “Hoarders” :)

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Comment by palmetto
2010-04-13 12:58:37

So true. Most of the dealers I know are dreadful hoarders. Most accumulate inventory far faster than they can sell it. It’s a sickness, lol. Our friends, family, spouses, ex-spouses, etc. learn not to drive with us even on a casual errand, because if a thrift shop, junk yard, consignment shop, yard sale, etc. appears on the horizon, then comes the inevitable, urgent shouts of “Pull over, pull over, pull overrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!”

 
 
Comment by m2p
2010-04-13 13:52:29

Corralitos, great place to go for sausage and apples. Not so much for collectibles.

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Comment by slb
2010-04-13 15:55:06

The smoked turkey is really good as is the marinated tri-tip. Oh, and the bacon, the bacon. I didn’t realize there was more to Corralitos than the tiny grocery store with the killer meat market in the back.

 
 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-04-13 11:42:23

Especially in Santa Cruz, full of students and aging hippies. Some folks work in Silicon Valley, but Silicon Valley is also full of trinket shops and many commuters may prefer to shop there and kill time before starting the evening commute.

Don’t forget - an 890 square foot house? Mortgage over $500K? Anyone see a problem there?

Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 12:30:09

Damn I feel for her. I know how you can love a house, but you should not love a house that much. As Ben says, in the end they will have to leave it behind. They’ll get into some assisted-living place, hopefully with a patio at least, and put all that house-love behind them. No thinking about how nice life used to be.

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Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 12:49:58

Ehh…moment of weakness on my part. I apologize. This lady is a nitwit.

My “irrational” fear of home equity loans saved me.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-04-13 13:45:24

Phewww…that was close.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by cereal
2010-04-13 07:42:49

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said. ‘I had excellent credit, and I somehow walked away with the idea that my mortgage was a fixed rate. I was shocked to find it wasn’t. It makes me believe there are a lot more people who have adjustable-rate mortgages who don’t realize it.’”

Excuse me M’am, Maybe spend less time watching DWTS, and pay more attention to the world around you.

Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 08:39:25

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said”

OMG !!…she has a master’s and they were trying to treat this poor princess of business and finance like a mere Mortal.

She acts as if she already has Phd in Business Arrogance, Greed and Stupidity.

Her shack on a hill, purchased in 1998 for $265,000, was appraised in 2005 for a funny money loan at $960,000 and now master’s business woman extordinaire wants the banks and the taxpayers to rescue her.

“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad”

I think the the Gods should go wild and just use direct lightning Bolt Strikes on these entitled fools…master’s degree or not !

mikey morning rant over…

:)

Comment by are they crazy
2010-04-13 09:51:02

I’m loving the lightening bolt idea. I’m so sick of all these people asking for assistance. As far as I’m concerned, if they refied any money out, they should get nothing but ridicule. They already got their $__________ tax free and spent it. I wonder what percentage that have their hand out have original loan with no piggy back or refi?

Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 10:02:38

“I wonder what percentage that have their hand out have original loan with no piggy back or refi?”

“Engage the Romulan RE Cloaking Device”

:)

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Comment by toast on the coast 90803
2010-04-13 10:10:11

The home behind me in a gated community in Long Beach, CA was purchased for $379,000 in 1997 and they now owe $1,400,000 on it and have not made a payment since Feb 2009! I believe they feel victimized. The Porche and Range Rover are still there and I recently overheard her saying she had her face done. I think they will walk with the $1,000,000 and not suffer at all while I have not refied and have 5 years to go on a 15 year note. Who is the fool?

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Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 11:09:49

Wow toast,

I’m afraid we’re gonna be seeing a whole lot of that nonsense and fraud and not just in CA, but knowing that this occurs sure doesn’t make it any easier to witness the damage being done to someone 1st hand in their backyards.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 11:11:00

I used to go to a dermatologist who got very heavily into cosmetic procedures. Which meant that those of us who went to his office for medical reasons began to be treated like second-class citizens.

Long story short: I took my business elsewhere.

But, looking back on my experience, I can’t think that a lot of the first-classers I used to see in the waiting room were there because they’d gone the HELOC route.

 
Comment by Wickedheart
2010-04-13 11:15:00

Well, it isn’t like they took that million and actually did something intelligent with it. In five years you will have a free and clear roof over your head. I think that’s pretty awesome.

 
 
 
Comment by Wickedheart
2010-04-13 11:30:55

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said.

Well, then you have to know how to read. So is she trying to say she signed a loan putting her on the hook for nearly a million dollars and she didn’t understand what she was signing? You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to understand the term “adjustable rate mortgage”. Or did she just not read it at all?

Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 12:55:32

The comments at the Sentinel site are awesome…lol

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Comment by lavi d
2010-04-13 12:52:06

Her shack on a hill, purchased in 1998 for $265,000, was appraised in 2005 for a funny money loan at $960,000 and now master’s business woman extordinaire wants the banks and the taxpayers to rescue her.

A real Master of the Universe Business Woman Extraordinaire would have sold the place for $750k, put the cash in the bank and rented a store with living quarters above until the madness was over.

Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 13:59:29

She didn’t claim to be smart…she claimed to have a master’s degree !!

;)

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Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2010-04-13 17:33:38

lol, +1 mikey.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-04-13 09:07:41

Just goes to show the “true value” of so-called “Master Degrees”

Pfffft….

Comment by DennisN
2010-04-13 11:54:30

Notice she never says what that master’s degree is in….maybe French literature? Or maybe Sociology? Something really usefull like that?

My master’s degree is in applied mathematics. It was helpful in getting ahead in engineering.

Comment by phxis2hot
2010-04-13 13:23:06

I’m half way through a masters in physics and the entire curriculum is basically math applied to the atom. If you know the math, then you can figure out anything.

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Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 14:12:45

Quite an math accomplishment.

There have been so many changes in theories with atoms and sub-atomic particle structures that I wouldn’t recognize a Cryogenic Dark Matter hobgoblin if bit me on the elbow at the bottom of the 27th level of the Sudan Mine shaft.

Go figure…

;)

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-04-13 15:45:34

phixis,

Actually it’s a long story. I was in a physics PhD program at UC San Diego. Mutual antagonism between me and the department led me to take a terminal MA in app. math.

No student loan debt since the math department had decent TA ships at the time.

 
 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-04-13 17:05:44

These are the peoples who should get the 1099s upon foreclosure. Governator you idiot. Sleep with dogs you get fleas.

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Comment by cereal
2010-04-13 07:45:22

“Ian Burns and his wife, Sonya Randrup, are hoping to refinance their Bennett Valley home, which they purchased in 2003 for $390,000 and is now worth about $40,000 less. After a previous refinancing, the couple owes about $410,000. ‘We’re not looking at getting out of paying our principal, but we sure would like it if they (their lender) talked to us,’ said Burns. ‘We have dynamite credit. We’ve never missed a payment. We work our asses off. At night, we look at each other and say, ‘What are we getting out of paying on this house?’”

I’ll answer that. You’re getting the consequences of making poor decisions.

Comment by VegasBob
2010-04-13 13:15:04

‘What are we getting out of paying on this house?’

Debt slavery?

 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2010-04-14 00:50:34

Dynamite credit === FICO blowing up in their faces.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-04-13 07:45:32

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said. ‘I had excellent credit, and I somehow walked away with the idea that my mortgage was a fixed rate. I was shocked to find it wasn’t”.

You and a whole lot of other folks have a masters degree, “for the love of god”. Doesn’t mean that you are necessarily the sharpest knife in the drawer.

If you don’t understand what you are getting ready to sign, find someone that does. Same old stories over and over.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-04-13 08:30:03

Obviously it wasn’t a very useful degree. If these people are going to remain so fixated on speculating with houses one would think they’d at least have the sense to all get advanced degrees in finance or real estate law! Sheesh!

Comment by SanFranciscoBayAreaGal
2010-04-13 08:52:06

Or at least use their common sense and go see a real estate lawyer before signing on the dotted line.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 09:11:50

“Truth In Lending Disclosure Statement”, which spells out the terms, true cost of the money, etc… with a cursory glance. They always go through it with the borrower/signer. nuff said.

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 09:21:34

•Early and Final Regulation Z Disclosure Requirements

•Disclosure Requirements for ARM Loans

•Right of Rescission

•Advertising Disclosure Requirements

(Just to back up my point. )

 
 
 
Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 12:34:48

How must her husband feel? It’s got to be weird living with someone who “took charge” of family finances and screwed everything up.

Then again, he shouldn’t have been so passive.

 
 
Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-04-13 09:09:22

My point exactly:

“DON’T BUY/INVEST IN SOMETHING THAT YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND”

Comment by mikey
2010-04-13 15:47:55

Puts Snickers bar back down…backs away from the counter.

:(

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 11:12:33

Oh, for the love of God. My parents both have master’s degrees. (Dad also has a doctorate.)

But, for the life of me, I can’t recall hearing them doing much bragging about their degrees. Matter of fact, Dad has been known to say, “A Ph.D. is no substitute for common sense.”

Comment by Wickedheart
2010-04-13 11:34:16

I take it he doesn’t expect folks to call him Doctor. :)

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 12:13:42

If you’re dealing with my father in a professional context, by all means call him Doctor Slim.

Around the neighborhood, he’s called Bill. Or, if my mother is calling him, it’s “Bi-i-ill!!!!!” Reason: Dad’s hard of hearing. Hollering is how Mom gets his attention.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-13 12:25:34

I take it he doesn’t expect folks to call him Doctor

He needs to get a T.A.R.D.I.S. then.

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Comment by Dale
2010-04-13 13:52:14

He needs to get a T.A.R.D.I.S. then.

And some bimbo to jet through time with.

 
Comment by wolfgirl
2010-04-13 14:39:45

The newest companion looks like she may be decent. Of course only two episodes of the new season have aired.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by efrex
2010-04-13 07:50:57

Back then, only 8 percent of Monterey County residents could afford to buy a median-priced home in the area, according to the California Realtors Association.
Why in the name of all that is sacred can nobody in the political/media sphere pick up on the ludicrousness of that sentence? If the median income in an area can’t afford the median home in that area, then you’ve got a bubble. Period. End of story. The bubble will end when prices fall to the level such that median incomes can afford median homes without resorting to hand-waving voodoo “see no evil” financing.

“Families with incomes between $76,080 and $114,000 a year for four people would be eligible to buy the houses, which were to sell between $300,000 and $500,000.”
Again, why is the half-witted journalist just writing down these numbers as if they make sense? If you’re a household of four making $114,000 a year, how is a $500,000 home “affordable?” Even if you put 20% down on a 30-year fixed rate mortgage, you’re stretching yourself (and almost certainly not doing financially responsible things like retirement savings).

Comment by JohnF
2010-04-13 11:24:00

It’s the California RE “state of mind”……I don’t think it will ever change…..

 
Comment by SDGreg
2010-04-13 19:13:19

“Families with incomes between $76,080 and $114,000 a year for four people would be eligible to buy the houses, which were to sell between $300,000 and $500,000.”

That’s totally f-ing ridiculous. One person with that income couldn’t afford those houses, much less four people (same income, much more than 1x the basic living expenses)! There’s no way to describe CRA other than evil.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-04-13 08:13:18

“Then there’s the looming threat of what Habibi calls ‘moral hazard’ - when a homeowner defaults and is then rescued, it discourages neighbors from keeping up with their own payments, Habibi said. That could end with the cycle repeating itself until government intervention stops.”

The whole concept of obamanation and why it will fail in a nutshell.

You get more of what you reward or subsidize.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 09:15:55

“The whole concept of obamanation..”
As an Ex-Repuke, now Political Atheist, it’s not like W-43 didn’t do this either. It’s the continuation of bad policies and bad decisions. What else is new.

Comment by cobaltblue
2010-04-13 12:05:45

“As an Ex-Repuke, now Political Atheist, it’s not like W-43 didn’t do this either. It’s the continuation of bad policies and bad decisions. What else is new.”

One new aspect is that the MSM generally spotlighted and mocked W-43 for the exact same things Obummer does now. Only now, they play the role of puppy-dog press, wagging their tails and licking his shoes whenever he approaches the teleprompter.

The twenty-somethings interpret this as the Aura of an Inspired Being.

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-13 14:29:07

“Only now, they play the role of puppy-dog press, wagging their tails and licking his shoes whenever he approaches the teleprompter.”

I know, it’s really gross. Cringe-worthy. No wonder bammy holds them in contempt.

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Comment by jbw
2010-04-13 14:38:21

At least we no longer have to hear the angry conservatives constantly accusing anyone who questions the will of the “chosen by God” President as unpatriotic and un-American.

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 18:11:02

I can’t believe the Palin and GOP love affair is still going on. I thought it would be a one night stand.

SNL did another Palin moment.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/141545/saturday-night-live-sarah-palin-network

 
 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2010-04-14 00:46:45

Except Helen Thomas.

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Comment by 2banana
2010-04-13 08:18:11

The Salinas Californian. “In the course of four years and one Great Recession, an affordable housing plan north of Salinas went from model program to short sale.

There is a joke in there somewhere…

Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 12:36:51

The “affordable housing” scam is a joke.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-04-13 12:46:46

Four years and one great Recession ago, a nation brought forth an “affordable housing plan” north of Salinas. Now this model program is in the midst of a great short sale…

dang, how did it go…

Comment by Sagesse
2010-04-13 16:03:24

Is Salinas still all about beans and maybe artichokes? I know it’s Watsonville that is mainly about artichokes. And I do like beans.

 
 
Comment by SDGreg
2010-04-13 19:19:55

Did they throw in a copy of the “Grapes of Wrath” with the short sale? What, Salinas isn’t a choice destination in this “recession”?

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-04-13 08:21:42

‘It’s a miracle I got a job,’ she said, adding that she has also accepted a temporary position as a census-taker paying $22 an hour.”

!!! WTF? Insanity.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 11:16:08

True story: There was a special census taken around here in 1995. One of my friends was a census taker.

She came across like a dear, sweet old lady, but, among her friends, she could cuss like a sailor. I learned a lot about the use of salty language from her.

But I digress.

Once, when she was going door-to-door in the Flowing Wells section of Tucson, she encountered a gentleman who said that he wouldn’t give any info to the government unless she held a gun to his head.

Adapting her sweet old lady persona, she said, “Oh, I left my gun at home today.”

He thought that was pretty funny. Then gave her the census info that she was seeking.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-13 12:22:50

My daughter got one of those jobs. Out here they pay $13/hr. The pay varies by the locale’s cost of living, so I guess they pay more in Santa Cruz than out here.

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-04-13 08:24:29

“Nevertheless, she’s hoping to take advantage of President Barack Obama’s expanded program to help homeowners who owe more on their houses than what they are worth.

Where is my free obama money?

“Then there’s the looming threat of what Habibi calls ‘moral hazard’ - when a homeowner defaults and is then rescued, it discourages neighbors from keeping up with their own payments, Habibi said. That could end with the cycle repeating itself until government intervention stops.”

As long as I get mine - I don’t care.

Comment by are they crazy
2010-04-13 09:56:43

And while they’re looking for their handout, they’re cursing the socialist president and his communist programs. They should go back to the President that was in charge while they screwed up their lives and ask him to help them out.

If the government,banks & the public just said FU and let the market fix things, what would it look like in reality?

Comment by lavi d
2010-04-13 13:05:12

And while they’re looking for their handout, they’re cursing the socialist president and his communist programs.

I know a guy whose wife, an avowed Obama-hater, managed to wrangled them a 2%-for-four-years, 4.5%-ceiling, 40-year ObamaLoan.

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-13 14:42:27

At this point, I’m so over whining about hand-outs. I’ve actually come around to the point of view of “the heck with it, get yours”. I’m serious. If you can qualify for any gubmint benefit, state, local or federal, take it. If you’ve been a taxpayer and contributed, you deserve it. Don’t be proud, don’t be shy. If you don’t take it, it’s gonna get hoovered up by illegals, their anchor babies, refugee scammers, banksters, farmers, developers, all sorts of various rent-seekers. Take the dang benefits and sock some cash away.

Shocker, yeah, I know. I had a real eye-opening moment today.

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Comment by Thud
2010-04-13 18:47:20

Moral hazard ahead! Captain Palmetto incites the troops and calls for Ramming Speed!

 
 
 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2010-04-14 00:43:14

Bush is at his ranch clearing brush again. Does he have the ability to pay?

 
 
 
Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 08:26:14

“Then there’s the looming threat of what Habibi calls ‘moral hazard’ - when a homeowner defaults and is then rescued, it discourages neighbors from keeping up with their own payments, Habibi said.

Wow! Gee…who knew?

Hey, where’s rancher been these days, anyway?

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-04-13 08:41:58

It’s all in the interpretation. Some might say it is more like helping your neighbor put out their house fire so yours does not go up in flames too.

Interesting to watch a culture obsessed with housing (money) volley all these moral arguments around, isn’t it? No wonder people are confused.

Comment by bink
2010-04-13 10:01:42

If you were putting out their fire with a money hose, maybe.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-04-13 12:44:15

Bernanke tried to use that lame “neighbor’s house on fire” analogy when he sold his bailouts to congress. It is a $hitty analogy because in this case the neighbors (for the most part) were reckless specuvestors living beyond their means which would be more akin to them having wild “fire-parties” on a daily basis while they bragged to you (who never lit a fire) about how crazy the fire was and how you should try an indoor bonfire like they were having and all the fun you are missing out on. The only way to get rid of the bad element in this case would be to let them burn down.

 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2010-04-14 00:40:43

read: Firewall

 
 
Comment by Rancher
2010-04-13 11:06:50

Right here finishing up on the governments request to find out how bad last year was for us, which
really wasn’t that bad.

Comment by In Montana
2010-04-13 13:34:17

Great. Good to “see” you again.

 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 13:35:02

Double FICA (both the employee and employer side) for the self employed sucks. Oh, and paying your own medical premium is no deal either in your liability caculation.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 13:49:50

Double FICA (both the employee and employer side) for the self employed sucks. Oh, and paying your own medical premium is no deal either in your liability caculation.

Seconded.

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Comment by cobaltblue
2010-04-13 09:30:43

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said. ‘I had excellent credit, and I somehow walked away with the idea that my mortgage was a fixed rate.”

Well then, maybe you should have a serious puffing session of hashish or crack before you sign the next time; for the love of Satan. Clearly, a master’s degree and the love of God are insufficient to organize your neurons and synapses into the comprehension stage of consciousness.

 
Comment by rudekarl
2010-04-13 10:58:52

“‘I have a master’s degree, for the love of God,’ she said. ‘I had excellent credit, and I somehow walked away with the idea that my mortgage was a fixed rate.”

(a) master’s degree in ___________________________?
(b) sue the college that awarded you your degree. Obviously, they did a lousy job.
(c) sue your parents for the sub-par DNA and upbringing they provided you.
(d) kill yourself

 
Comment by rudekarl
2010-04-13 11:06:29

“Downey Savings and Loan in Newport Beach approved a $581,000 mortgage at 6.724 percent after the house on Casserly Road was appraised at $960,000.”

Somebody appraised this 890 square foot closet for a million bucks. These folks must be hitting the medical marijuana pretty hard up there if they thought this was going to end up well for them.

Then again, they sure did make out like bandits on this one with all of the free money. Too bad they sunk it into her lousy business.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 11:18:37

My house is only slightly larger than this “victim” house. And there is no way in Hades that I’d pay a million bucks for this house.

As for financing my biz with it? Fuggedaboutit. Heck, I’d go out and work as a helper on a construction site to earn some extra money if the biz needed it.

 
Comment by robin
2010-04-13 23:25:52

Downey went BK!

 
 
Comment by salinasron
2010-04-13 11:13:46

” ‘You’re with clients with three, four, five months, preparing them for the transition from living in a house they thought was their home for life. And slowly, it’s being taken away from them.”

Will they ever get it!! Nothing is being taken away. You rent from the bank, you don’t pay the rent, you get moved out. Very simple but lost in the translation that you are the property owner.

 
Comment by sold in 05
2010-04-13 12:09:58

the central valley of calif cannot support home values over 250k,farmers and service workers dont make enough $,in fact the entire state of calif is way over priced,our wages are depressed and the housing prices still sky high…there is still a long way down in the golden state,for home prices.here is hoping there are no more bail out schemes,i want the market to correct itself..those are the rules we working class people play by….

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-04-13 12:46:13

The rich baby boomers are coming, stupid.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-13 13:32:45

They’ve been saying that here in Tucson. Only problem is, a lot of other places have been saying it too. And there are only so many rich boomers to go around.

 
 
 
Comment by IowaDude
2010-04-13 15:43:37

The real estate frenzy was fueled by misconceptions and ignorance:

First, that a house/home is an “investment”. A house is shelter, period. If you can afford it (at a 20% minimum down payment and no more than 20% or so DTI) buy it. If not, rent. There’s nothing wrong with renting, and shouldn’t be looked down upon like so many do today. Fact of the matter is there are a lot, a LOT, of people who have no business owning a house any more than they have owning a business. They are short sighted and financially inept, not realizing that one day the furnace/CA will need replacing ($8,000 + last year for my wife and I), a roof will need shingling, etc. etc. etc.

Second, a corollary to the first, is that this “investment” may actually LOSE value. I’m quite frankly sick and tired of listening to whining imbeciles cry about how they are now trapped into paying for a house worth less than the mortgage they’re paying. TOO BAD. You bet, you lost. If you want out, file bankruptcy and start over. The people who end up paying for your over self-indulgence (we just had to have that house in that area, it was SOOOOOOO great for entertaining) are people like my wife and me. We spent way less than we could have (and in fact were approved for), put 25% down and got a 10 year mortgage (done in 3 years). Which leads to:

Third, the fact that even when things were gung-ho, most people were house poor. Having to shuck out 35-45% of your net income just for PITI is beyond insanity. Just more proof that financial education in this nation sucks out loud.

Fourth, people in their 50’s, 60’s and 70’s who have multiple hundreds of thousand dollar mortgages on homes they’ve owned for years. WTF??? Again, dunderheads know no bounds. Why would you put yourself in that kind of position at that age? Insanity.

I could go on, but I have work to do, so better stop goofing off………

 
Comment by Mike in Carlsbad
2010-04-13 16:21:21

San Diego home prices rose 15.8% last year! Should have bought last year. Another 30 something, 20% down-payment, responsible, well employed person priced out of the market. This is getting old.
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San Diego County led Southern California in home-price appreciation last month, as the median price for the entire region rose to $285,000, up 14 percent from March 2009, MDA DataQuick reported Tuesday.

San Diego County’s median price, as reported Monday, was up 15.8 percent to $330,000, compared with a year ago, followed by Ventura County, up 15 percent to $375,000.

Sales regionwide totaled 20,476, up 5 percent from March 2009, but still below the 23-year average of 24,936. San Diego sales totaled 3,227, up 2 percent, while Los Angeles rose the most, up 13 percent to 6,747.

“It’s a reflection of just how grim things got that we’ve now had almost two years of sales gains and we’re still 18 percent below the sales average,” said DataQuick President John Walsh. Still, March was the 21st month in a row to see a year-over-year increase.

He said more sales activity won’t take place until lending patterns normalize. He singled out higher-end jumbo loans, traditionally involving more than $417,000. They accounted for 15.7 percent of March loans, up from 14.8 percent but far behind the 40 percent level before the fall 2007 credit crisis.

Among other findings in March, DataQuick said foreclosure resales dropped to 38.4 percent of the overall resale market, down from 42.3 percent in February; adjustable-rate mortgages accounted for 4.8 percent of loans, up from 4 percent in February and 2.1 percent a year ago (their market share since 2000 is 44.6 percent); and all-cash buyers accounted for 27.1 percent of March sales, down from February’s 30 percent record.

More details are available at dqnews.com

Roger Showley: (619) 293-1286; roger.showley@uniontrib.com

Comment by SDGreg
2010-04-13 20:10:21

“He said more sales activity won’t take place until lending patterns normalize.”

Never a mention of housing prices falling to historical averages, in line with wages, etc. Instead, just keep easy credit flowing to debt slaves.

 
Comment by Wickedheart
2010-04-13 21:59:19

This is just the gov re-inflating this sucker. Housing Bubble 2.0 They can’t prop up housing forever. Has there ever been a housing recovery with rising unemployment?

 
 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-04-13 18:17:27

Census humor - This is funny adult humor.
Not GP. http://www.hulu.com/watch/141553/saturday-night-live-obama-census-cold-open

 
Comment by sleepless_near_seattle
2010-04-13 18:24:33

“In the course of four years and one Great Recession, an affordable housing plan north of Salinas went from model program to short sale. Back then, only 8 percent of Monterey County residents could afford to buy a median-priced home in the area, according to the California Realtors Association. That median price? $636,500.

Families with incomes between $76,080 and $114,000 a year for four people would be eligible to buy the houses, which were to sell between $300,000 and $500,000.”

Woweewowow. Mother of all things large and small! Do they mean “affordable housing” the way we traditionally think of affordable housing? At one time, affordable housing was meant for the least among us. Is it not time to rethink things if government thinks the solution is for taxpayers to subsidize housing for the middle class?? Did anyone think that if, perhaps, we stopped subsidizing homeownership, “slightly” more than 8% of residents could afford housing on their own?

 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2010-04-13 20:25:19

I have a master’s degree, in science.
– Dr. Science

 
Comment by holytrainwreck
2010-04-14 00:34:56

News flash: Real estate can go down.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 
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