April 15, 2010

Even Sorrier Than We Thought

The Austin American Statesman reports from Texas. “The recession that wiped out thousands of jobs in Central Texas also erased $6.5 billion from the market value of Travis County properties. The 5.3 percent drop in values from 2009 was the first decline since 2003, according to preliminary figures from the Travis Central Appraisal District. Meanwhile, the commercial market suffered more, with rising office vacancies and foreclosures or bankruptcies for some large properties. Chief Appraiser Patrick Brown estimated the total market value of the property in the county at $116.9 billion , down from $123.4 billion last year. The last decline was 5.3 percent in 2003 , reflecting the tech bust. That year, the county’s market value dropped by $4 billion, to $71.9 billion. ”

“The drop does not necessarily mean lower tax bills for all homeowners. The law requires that assessed values continue to rise until they eventually catch up to market values. ‘Many people have been getting assessed values below market for three or four years,’ Brown said. In those instances, ‘many homeowners will see an increase in assessed values, even though market values aren’t climbing.’”

News 8 Austin. “Dean Rindy said every time he leaves his house near Enfield Road, he does his best to ignore what to him looks like a giant chicken coop. The property, dubbed the ‘Pleiades’ by its original developers, is owned by First State Bank. ‘A bunch of incompetent people put together a bad project, and the bank very foolishly gave them the money to go ahead and make idiots of themselves,’ Rindy said.”

“If a buyer is never found for the complex, and the bank decides not to build, the structure can remain in its place as long as it stays up to code. ‘It’s a blight on the old West Austin neighborhood. It has been in a state of ruin, and they ran out of money years ago,’ nearby resident Angela Lee said.”

The Star Telegram. “In the first three months of the year, builders started 3,460 houses in North Texas, a 59 percent increase from the same period in 2009, when 2,172 houses were started, Metrostudy said. Metrostudy noted that the gain comes against a historic low a year earlier, when credit markets were tight. ‘The dramatic percentage increase in starts during the first quarter has more to do with the extremely low level of starts last year than anything else,’ said David Brown, director of Metrostudy’s Dallas-Fort Worth offices.”

“For example, in the first quarter of 2008, builders started 5,207 homes; in 2006, at the height of the housing boom, the number was 12,370. After the long decline in starts, inventory stands at around 8,390 new houses — among the lowest levels since 1993 and 68 percent below the peak in 2006, Brown said.”

“For all of 2009, area builders started 12,814 houses, down 30 percent from 2008’s 18,334 starts, figures show. Closings were also down, falling 32 percent from 24,025 in 2008 to 16,322 in 2009, Metrostudy said. Home builders have a 61/2-month supply of new houses and a five-year supply of lots, figures show.”

The Dallas Morning News. “North Texas’ jump in building this year was largely prompted by a shortage of finished houses for builders to sell. A federal tax credit, which is bringing out buyers, added to the increased building. Only about 3,500 completed new homes were vacant at the end of March, down from almost 11,000 at the start of 2007.”

“New home sales in North Texas are still declining – down more than 20 percent from first quarter 2009. Only 2,983 new homes were sold in the most recent quarter, less than half the volume in mid-2008.”

“Economists are keeping a close eye on the home market, which showed sales strength in late 2009 but grew slower early this year. ‘The tax credit should help, but so far the numbers are lagging,’ said Dr. James Gaines, an economist at the Real Estate Center at Texas A&M University. ‘We’d better see some significant sales closings in April and May or we will have to conclude that the housing sector was even sorrier than we thought.’”

From WFAA. “If you build it, they will come. Or will they? Some Texas school districts can’t afford to open brand-new campuses because the souring economy has caused cash flow problems. In Crowley, workers are racing to finish a middle school building that was designed to serve 1,200 students. For now, it will largely sit empty. The money was there to build the $40 million facility, but there’s not enough not to fully open it.”

“For years, this suburban Fort Worth district saw huge growth. But after the housing collapse, new students slowed to a trickle, and sinking property values slammed tax collections. The situation infuriates parents Like Lidia Hernandez, with kids in over-crowded schools. ‘Big waste of money for them to sit empty over there,’ she said.”

“‘Sounds like somebody didn’t do some planning,’ added Carolyn Goode, whose grandchild attends Crowley schools.”

The Monitor. “With little trust in authorities and few reports from the media, it is difficult for Mexican residents to discern what is fact from hearsay. But to be caught in the crossfire is a legitimate fear, families say — even more distressing is constantly seeing their schools shut down, their news outlets silenced and their streets blockaded by Mexican soldiers and military trucks. Such concerns are driving Matamoros families away from the border city and into the Rio Grande Valley, said residential and commercial real estate agents.”

“‘They call and tell me, ‘I need (a home) fast. I want to take my children out of school. There is too much danger here,’ said Sandy Lee Galvan, a real estate agent in Brownsville. ‘Many want to pay cash up front.’”

“Real estate agents in the Valley said Mexican nationals moving in are helping to keep the housing market afloat. Richards, for instance, estimated Mexican nationals comprise 40-50 percent of Trendsetters’ clientele in Hidalgo County. Many families also are ‘realizing it is a great time to make investments in the United States,’said Norma Rasco, a real estate agent with Rancho Viejo Realty. ‘Mexican nationals are cash buyers, and in this economy, cash is king,’ she said.”

The Houston Chronicle. “Neighborhoods across the area saw wild price swings depending on their location, school district and volume of foreclosures. Volatility seemed to be the only constant. While many consumers were reluctant to dip their toes in the market’s murky waters, others got a nudge from the federal government, whose programs to alleviate the nation’s economic troubles focused largely on housing.”

“‘There have been so many efforts to stimulate demand and close off foreclosures that it’s hard to say what it would have looked like if it were under normal circumstances,’ said Crawford Realty Advisors’ Evert Crawford, who conducted the analysis.”

“Values in more than 120 of the area’s largest neighborhoods — those with at least 1,000 homes — declined or were flat last year, while about 80 registered increases. Values in more than half of the neighborhoods surveyed turned down — some by as much as 50 percent. But there were also parts of town that came out ahead.”

“‘I’ve built for 15 years and never seen Houston like this,’ said Adam Kliebert, a high-end builder who has been unable to sell his last two spec homes — houses he built in anticipation of finding buyers.”

“Kliebert has decided to take a break from building homes, and is converting the Rice Village-area building where he runs his real estate business into an upscale lounge. He’ll start building again when demand returns.”

“Foreclosures accounted for 20.5 percent of home sales last year in five Houston-area counties, according to a survey of 2009 housing prices conducted by Crawford Realty Advisors in conjunction with the University of Houston’s Institute for Regional Forecasting. The median price was $87,000. That’s compared with 21.9 percent in 2008 at a median price of $90,905.”

“The downward pressure from foreclosures is most obvious in expanding or newer subdivisions outside the Beltway, but is also evident in neighborhoods inside the Beltway. Many foreclosures last year were concentrated in lower-income areas with higher unemployment rates, according to a study that Evert Crawford, president of Crawford Realty Advisors, is working on but has yet to be released, he said. ‘It looks like to me what we’re seeing in foreclosures is bad lending practices to people who should never have gotten the loans in the first place,’ he said.”

“Federal mitigation programs and moratoriums delayed foreclosures temporarily during the first half of 2009, but the second half of the year saw them jump again.”

“Competition from cheap foreclosures can make it tough for homeowners trying to sell, too. Stacia Jackson, a passport specialist with the Department of State, has been trying to sell her northwest Houston home since last summer, when she listed it for $104,000. She came close to a sale once, but a nearby foreclosure lured the potential buyers away with a $92,000 listing price.”

“‘The house across the street was lower, so they bought that one instead,’ she said. Now Jackson has lowered her asking price to $99,000 and switched real estate agents.”

“Though foreclosures numbers may seem to steady, it may be premature to say the worst is over, said Michael Weaster, an agent who specializes in selling foreclosures for banks. Some banks, he said, are holding on to properties and renting them out until the market turns around. And others have many vacant properties on the books that homeowners walked away from but the bank hasn’t foreclosed on yet, he said.”

“Weaster, who often gives banks an opinion about property values, says he finds that about half the 25 homes he checks on per week are usually vacant because the homeowners could no longer afford their mortgages. ‘There is still a huge inventory waiting to be foreclosed,’ he said. ‘Everyone says the economy is stabilizing, but that’s not what I see.’”

“”While the number of foreclosures for the year seem to finally be leveling off as fallout from the subprime mortgage crisis starts to clear, the numbers are still very high, said Ralph Murdock of Foreclosure Information & Listing Service. ‘We’re really cleaning out the backlog, number one,’ he said. ‘But everything has been aggravated with the recession. Unemployment is the reason our numbers continue to go up.’”

The Midland Reporter Telegram. “It’s often difficult to measure the state of the economy because many times we judge the good times and bad times through the eyes of our own reality. You could say the state of the economy comes through the eyes of the beholder. Our current economic state proves this point very well. During the recession, nearly everyone felt the pain of the times even though Midland entered the pain threshold much later than the rest of the nation. Regardless, most of us were hit hard by the stiff downturn in the nation’s financial structure.”

“Many of us suffered no loss of jobs and suffered no loss of income during the recession. And our investments are rebounding once again thanks to the year-long stock market rally. On the other hand, the mood remains bleak for many of the nearly 9 million people who lost jobs and still don’t see the ‘hiring’ signs in many windows. Many have seen pay cuts and housing problems produced by a mammoth housing bust.”

“What we would like to see is where both of these worlds meld into an economic state that once again is a boost to the American dream. It’s simply not good enough for a few to reap the rewards this nation has to offer. We will have work to do as long as the American dream is not reachable for all those willing to work for it.”

“It’s our opinion that we have taken our eye off the ball and have stowed away the troubles of millions of Americans to see to other less worthy tasks. It’s time to once again to return our attention to the economy, creating an environment of success without throwing empty dollars at empty programs.”

“It’s time to make policies that will allow businesses to create jobs, enable the housing market to advance and ensure that banks are once again loaning money. Then we might really be on the road to economic recovery.”




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Comment by wmbz
2010-04-15 05:14:20

“Dean Rindy said every time he leaves his house near Enfield Road, he does his best to ignore what to him looks like a giant chicken coop”.

Poor Dean, just doesn’t understand, that was designed for the cutting edge savvy,upscale,edgy buyer to snap up.

Comment by DennisN
2010-04-15 08:27:30

The Pleiades is a nebula in the shoulder of Taurus the Bull IIRC…

Seems appropriate. The architect had a nebulous concept of what he was doing. The photo reminds me of nothing more than the shantytowns in the slums of Manilla.

What are the typical houses like in that part of Austin? Stucco and red tile roofs?

 
 
Comment by saywhat
2010-04-15 05:17:04

http://www.inteldaily.com/2010/04/gold-manipulation/

Just in case this wasn’t posted already.

 
Comment by 2banana
2010-04-15 05:52:27

The Dallas Morning News. “North Texas’ jump in building this year was largely prompted by a shortage of finished houses for builders to sell. A federal tax credit, which is bringing out buyers, added to the increased building. Only about 3,500 completed new homes were vacant at the end of March, down from almost 11,000 at the start of 2007.”

April 30th (the day the federal housing credit expires) is going to be a magic day…

Comment by bink
2010-04-15 11:11:11

60-90 days later will be even more magical.

Comment by rudekarl
2010-04-15 12:01:47

Except, it’s different here in Dallas. Everybody wants to move here, because this is where all the jobs are.

At least that’s what the local press has been touting for the past couple of years.

I live in downtown, and most of the finished condo projects are now rentals, many remain virtually empty, commercial occupancy is extremely low (forgot the number, but it was around 50% empty) - lot’s of green shoots around here.

I guess Dallas is in better shape than lot’s of other locales, but the cheerleading for this area has been going on for a really long time. I used to email the local Dallas Morning News reporter Steve Brown and remind him of all of his failed predictions, but it got old.

Ben used have contact w/ a former Morning News reporter that wrote fairly objective articles about the impending meltdown back in 2005, but she moved on when she saw the writing on the wall. I think her first name was Danielle.

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 12:21:36

Dallas and Texas have a RE bubble, but it isn’t in sync with most markets for a few reasons, IMO. I mentioned below how the tech boom threw things off, and that the DFW building boom peaked in 2006. Still, notice that they are relieved they ‘only’ have 3500 empty spec houses in DFW. After the oil/RE bust, spec houses were a four letter word in Texas for a long time, but not any more.

Here’s one from Brown: ‘ A perfect storm of overbuilding and a depressed economy is threatening a growing number of Dallas-Fort Worth hotels with foreclosure.In the first four months of 2010, more hotel foreclosure filings have been recorded in North Texas than in all of last year. And the industry outlook is for defaults to increase.’

‘The hotel market here got overbuilt and overfinanced,’ said George Roddy, whose Foreclosure Listing Service track property foreclosure filings in more than two dozen Texas counties. ‘There are just too many of them.’

‘Keeling said many of the state’s hotel operators have ‘held on by their fingernails’ and are now running out of options to meet mortgage obligations. So far, the lenders have been reluctant to take the properties back, ‘because they didn’t know what to do with them,’ Keeling said.’

And from the Statesman article in the post:

‘The commercial market suffered more. Office vacancy rates continued to rise, with some newer suburban complexes having few or no tenants. In Bee Cave, the Hill County Galleria went into bankruptcy last May and was sold in January for $75 million — less than half of what developers had borrowed to build it.’

Ouch!

BTW, Steve Brown was one of the first people in the press I ever had contact with. In 2005 he emailed me back and said, ‘Interesting, but why a blog on the housing bubble?’

Also, you are thinking of Danielle Di Martino, who was more of a columnist. I posted a lot of her stuff in the HBB media and analyst review a few months ago. She went to work for the Federal Reserve and hasn’t been heard from since.

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Comment by SDGreg
2010-04-16 14:00:15

“Home builders have a 61/2-month supply of new houses and a five-year supply of lots, figures show.”

That number on the supply of lots is the one that got my attention. That seems like a big number for an area that has a lot of buildable land. How does that number compare to other periods preceding big real estate busts in the DFW area? How many of those lots were purchased on credit at peak prices?

 
 
Comment by 2banana
2010-04-15 05:56:26

Many families also are ‘realizing it is a great time to make investments in the United States,’said Norma Rasco, a real estate agent with Rancho Viejo Realty. ‘Mexican nationals are cash buyers, and in this economy, cash is king,’ she said.”

That I can understand. What I can’t understand is Mexican nationals (legal and illegal) fleeing Mexico to American and then promptly demanding America accommodate them and turn into another Mexico…

Comment by Timmy Boy
2010-04-15 06:31:01

At least they pay “cash”… & not take out funny-money loans like we Americans do…

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 07:10:51

Brownsville is a border town. These are rough places. It’s also the poorest county in the US. If you look at the article, these folks are buying some pricey houses.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-15 10:26:28

Interesting. It used to be the upper classes that kept a house in Texas as a safe haven. Now the Mexican middle class appears to be jumping in the band wagon.

Many families also are “realizing it is a great time to make investments in the United States,” said Norma Rasco, a real estate agent with Rancho Viejo Realty.

If by investment they mean “a place that’s still safe”, then yeah.

Persoanally, I think that its only a matter of time before the drug cartel violence spills over big time to our side of the border, and it will begin in places like Brownsville, McAllen and Laredo.

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 13:54:33

“Persoanally, I think that its only a matter of time before the drug cartel violence spills over big time to our side of the border, and it will begin in places like Brownsville, McAllen and Laredo.”

Matter of time? Heck, it’s already happened and it has begun in Arizona, with the murder of that rancher. His brother apparently reported some drug trafficking through their property, and the next night, bada-BING! This little detail is not getting much play in the media, naturally.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-15 14:12:25

I did qualify that with “big time” as it becomes a common occurance on our side of the border.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 14:17:37

I lived 30 miles from Brownsville for 5 years. Drug activity and violence is so prevalent, the newspapers hardly cover it. I remember a running machine-gun battle in downtown Matamoros, probably 40 guys blazing away at each other out of trucks for a couple of miles, like some movie. It wasn’t even reported in the US. You really have to be down there to know what is going on.

 
Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 14:32:22

The border really does have to be militarized. We’re going to have to let go of the popular fiction that Mexico is controlled by anything other than drug cartels. The “government” there really only exists at the pleasure of the cartels and the semblance of a government allows Mexico to shake down the US for millions of bucks. It’s really a blackmail racket.

Nice to see Michelle ma belle is putting on a good show of diplomacy.

 
Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 14:36:05

“Drug activity and violence is so prevalent, the newspapers hardly cover it.”

Probably don’t cover it because of what happens to journalists who do.

 
 
Comment by jtie
2010-04-15 20:53:09

when? now

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-15 10:33:36

That I can understand. What I can’t understand is Mexican nationals (legal and illegal) fleeing Mexico to American and then promptly demanding America accommodate them and turn into another Mexico…

That’s only the illegals. Middle and upper class Mexicans tend to assimilate much better. Most are very fluent in English and look more “Spanish” than “Mexican”.

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 14:07:46

“Middle and upper class Mexicans tend to assimilate much better.”

True, especially the middle class. When we first moved to this part of Florida, we had a plumbing problem with some roots growing into drainage pipes. We had two trailer-trash gomer plumbers try to fix the problem. One tore up the ground outside, put in a fancy liner and some gravel, which did nothing at all. But he sure put on a show of working hard and complaining. The other gomer came out for an estimate and threw his beer belly all over the place while he talked about backhoes and how hard and expensive it was going to be to handle the problem. The American plumber of Mexican descent got right in there and pulled out the roots, fixed the pipes and charged us a fair price. Didn’t ask for a deposit, either. Never complained, just got the job done and done right. The way Americans used to do it. He shook his head when he saw what the idiot who worked on it before him had done.

We had the same experience with an American roofer of Mexican descent. Solid, middle class American businessmen.

Illegals are a whole other story and lately, some of the Americans of Mexican descent around here are getting more than a tad pissed off about them.

Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 14:26:17

LOL, my favorites are some of the folks who re-locate to Florida from Texas. When they open their mouth to speak, you’re expecting to hear English with a Spanish accent and instead you get that Texas twang.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-15 14:31:55

The American plumber of Mexican descent got right in there and pulled out the roots, fixed the pipes and charged us a fair price. Didn’t ask for a deposit, either. Never complained, just got the job done and done right. The way Americans used to do it. He shook his head when he saw what the idiot who worked on it before him had done.

That’s exactly the sort of plumber I hired for my water line replacement last year. Would hire his company again.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-15 10:47:43

What I can’t understand is Mexican nationals (legal and illegal) fleeing Mexico to American and then promptly demanding America accommodate them and turn into another Mexico…

I don’t get it either. Especially since, during the summer that I lived in Spain, I couldn’t have expected the Spaniards to accommodate me.

Far from it. I had to do such things as be able to speak and understand Spanish well enough to use the national telephone system. There was no “press one for English” option.

Ditto for using public transportation, going shopping, and attending lectures at the university. Unless the faculty were from the United States-based summer program I was enrolled in, they spoke all Spanish! all the time! in class. Which meant that, in order to be a successful student, I had to quick-like-a-bunny get proficient at taking notes and studying in Spanish.

Comment by Bad Chile
2010-04-16 04:26:27

I’ve spent time in the Middle East. Every morning, I had the staff where I was living teach me a new saying. I’d spend the day using that saying (and the ones I learned before), then that night they’d quiz me. I couldn’t go to my room until I got the pronounciation just right. They were hard (I asked them to be) but at the end of the month I could go into the rough parts of town, order coffee and tea with my coworkers, have short conversation about what I was doing there, and then pay the bill in arabic.

I considered it a sign of respect for where I was living, and it sure lead to some good times.

Meanwhile, I was in the Inland Empire last month for work, and went to a local place to eat. Thankfully I still knew enough Spanish to order and then go to the counter to get my food when my number was called. Couldn’t believe my eyes.

That and the place that would rent you a set of rims for your car that I drove by every morning.

 
 
 
Comment by combotechie
2010-04-15 06:13:56

What’s there to understand?

They are doing this because they can.

 
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 07:22:09

For anyone wanting to understand how the housing bubble is playing out in Texas, there are some relevant numbers above:

‘In the first quarter of 2008, (DFW) builders started 5,207 homes; in 2006, at the height of the housing boom, the number was 12,370.’

You don’t hear about 2006 being the peak there often.

‘After the long decline in starts, inventory stands at around 8,390 new houses — among the lowest levels since 1993 and 68 percent below the peak in 2006′

93 was probably the low point in the N TX economy after the oil/RE bust.

‘The 5.3 percent drop in values from 2009 was the first decline since 2003..(the tech bust)

‘total market value of the property in the county at $116.9 billion , down from $123.4 billion last year. The last decline was 5.3 percent in 2003 , reflecting the tech bust. That year, the county’s market value dropped by $4 billion, to $71.9 billion.’

So in Austin, the internet/tech bubble popped up prices, which probably would have come down except for the larger housing mania, especially rolling equity out of CA. And note the total value in Travis county almost doubled since 2003.

Comment by Mugsy
2010-04-15 09:37:49

I’m still amazed at the prices in Austin. Is everybody working at UT pulling down $100,00+ ? It sure ain’t the “Dellionaires” paying for it anymore.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-15 10:31:40

I’m guessing that like any other state capital its top heavy with well paid bureaucrats, especially in management positions. And unlike with the tech sector I’m also guessing that there haven’t been that many layoffs or pay freezes for those on the state payroll.

 
 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 07:45:46

I didn’t post this above cuz if you didn’t know where it was (and I doubt any one here ever heard of this place) it might not floor you.

‘Hoping to save 44 presidential busts planned for a park on a major commercial development in Pearland, residents are drumming up support online as the development faces foreclosure. Bankers started foreclosure proceedings last week on the WaterLights District, a proposed $600 million, 1.9 million-square-foot development expected to include residential condos and luxury apartments, office buildings, retail boutiques, a fresh market and 10 restaurants called Restaurant Row, all alongside a grand canal.’

‘Developers have had a hard time with the project after the recent economic downturn chilled investors and possible retailers, Goswick said. “When our customers can’t get financing, then our market dries up quickly,” Goswick said.’

Comment by DennisN
2010-04-15 08:32:15

From Wikipedia….

Pearland does not have any major industry.

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 08:42:56

A funny thing about Brazoria county I read years ago. Some guy had won a county wide electoral post, and nobody bothered to even have another election for close to 20 years. So he just kept the position.

 
Comment by Mugsy
2010-04-15 09:35:33

It’s also an ultra-humid moisture trap most of the year.

 
 
Comment by Dave of the North
2010-04-15 08:39:04

But, but - they have a Facebook group, with “several” messages of support. And think of the tens of people that will throng greater Pearland to visit those Prez busts. Congress must act now. Can’t Ron Paul add an earmark to the next bill that goes through. :)

Comment by DennisN
2010-04-15 09:25:34

Here’s the Texas version of earmarks….. :lol:

http://www.cckoutfitters.com/Home.html

 
Comment by Bad Chile
2010-04-16 04:40:41

Should we start a Facebook page supporting the foreclosure process and see how many fans we get?

Hum…once Mini-chile goes down for his nap I might just do that.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-15 08:54:31

From that link:

‘Goswick’s partner, Richard P. Browne, director of planning and development at Boardwalk at the Spectrum LP, put it bluntly in an e-mail. ‘When Amegy Bank’s parent bank (Zions Bancorporation) receives over $1.4 billion in (federal Troubled Asset Relief Program) money and can borrow money at 1.5 percent, then turn around and charge 18 percent, it is a sin and a shame. The numbers don’t work anymore.’

‘in the Waterlights grouping the 7 Presidents moved to the site appear from the freeway to be buried in the earth up to their chests, somehow managing to keep their heads above the often-times-soggy land around them’

‘Browne added, ‘Unfortunately, the banks stopped lending to everyone and we ran out of time.’

Comment by bink
2010-04-15 11:15:11

Barely keeping their heads above water, eh? We should help fund the completion of that project for the satisfying metaphor alone.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-15 12:23:59

“The drop does not necessarily mean lower tax bills for all homeowners. The law requires that assessed values continue to rise until they eventually catch up to market values. “

Strange terminology there. In MD the distinction is between the ASSESSED value (which is suposed to reflect the market value) and the TAXABLE value. (which is capped by several % a year)

 
Comment by Robert McMahon
2010-04-15 13:11:01

What we really need, here, is a way to incentivize small business lending. That’s what’s killing our economy.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-15 14:14:46

I have an acquaintance with an oil well clean up business. He’s turning down business and wants to expand.

Can he get a loan?

Nope.

 
 
Comment by Ria Rhodes
2010-04-15 15:06:23

The futility of savings accounts..

(excerpts from today’s New York Times)

“Low rates good for banks, but pity the savers”

“This week I checked the Web sites of the four largest banks in the country — Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo; to see what they were offering on an ordinary savings account, say, one with $5,000 in it.”

“Chase, the retail operation of JPMorgan Chase, and Wells Fargo were offering 0.05 percent. That $5,000 would produce monthly interest of almost 21 cents. If you left such an account untouched for 20 years, and rates stayed where they are, the glories of compound interest would lead to a profit of $50. Before taxes, of course.”

Comment by Ria Rhodes
2010-04-15 15:08:19

..and before inflation as well.

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-04-15 17:09:36

Not to hijack the thread, but are any of you following this Iceland volcano eruption? This is no joke, much of Europe’s air transporation has been shut down, I understand. Additionally, there’s this:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/sciencefair/post/2010/04/iceland-volcano-eruption-could-last-months/1

If the one volcano melts the glacier on the other volcano, and volcano #2 blows, it’s deep freeze time for much of the planet. Sheesh. So much for global warming. Nature always finds a way, eh?

Comment by still not time
2010-04-15 19:03:23

Not to hijack your thread palmy but has anyone looked at uyg lately. Remember when Hoz was talking about this stock. Holy smokes!

 
Comment by NYchk
2010-04-16 05:47:57

Volcano in Iceland is not a good news… All routes to Northern & Eastern Europe from US fly over Greenland & Iceland.

Last time this very volcano eruped (early 19th century), the eruptions and ash continued for OVER A YEAR. Planes radar systems do not see ash. That just doesn’t inspire a lot of confidence in the safety of air travel above that area… Maybe I should find a different route to fly for the next year or so. Just in case.

 
 
Comment by NYchk
2010-04-16 05:42:12

UYG did a reverse split yesterday, so the share price now looks higher. But the stock still is at one half of what they were a couple of years ago.

 
Comment by Charles F.
2010-04-22 14:44:39

Metrostudy’s Dave Brown is giving their Dallas-Ft.Worth Executive Market Briefing for the 1st quarter, 2010 on April 28. Here’s the link if you want to register: http://bit.ly/aAqIiL Dave also spoke at the Appraisal Institute’s 2nd Annual North Texas Realty Symposium in Dallas Texas. Good stuff. Their site (blog) has a lot of housing info and they speak often. You can see it at http://bit.ly/cQv49X Click on Dallas-Ft. Worth on the tabs on right to see what they say about housing here.

 
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