April 28, 2010

It Continued To Go Up As Long As We Can Remember

The Times Tribune reports from Pennsylvania. “While data may show the recession has ended, the overwhelming consensus among participants in this year’s Economic Forum is that it still feels like a recession in Northeast Pennsylvania. Misericordia University economics professor John Sumansky, Ph.D: For me, when I look at this recession, what’s clear to me, anyway, is that not all recessions are the same, and we’re not immune from what goes on in the world around us…This size unemployment rate, and we’re talking about nine, ten percent, a lot of our young people have never seen those kinds of unemployment rates before. What’s different about this one I think is that this particular recession was centered around those kinds of factors that affected people’s wealth, how wealthy did you think you were.”

“And by wealth I mean people’s homes and their 401(k)s…And when people’s homes start losing value, when their 401(k)s start losing value, they felt poorer even if they had jobs. And this cut across the heart of all of America because the home was the symbol that I have arrived, I’m wealthy, that’s my asset. Its price has continued to go for up as long as we can remember until just a couple of years ago. And that all turned around.”

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.”

The Philladelphia Inquirer in Pennsylvania. “At 1 p.m. May 15, the nine unsold units at what is known today as Cu257 will be auctioned. The minimum bid for the two penthouses, once listed at $1.2 million each, will be $200,000. The minimum bid for the seven remaining units, with list prices ranging from $698,400 to $871,255, will be $95,000. The seller is a subsidiary of the lender, Wilmington Saving Fund Society, designated to complete and sell the building after it was returned to the bank rather than go through foreclosure and sheriff’s sale.”

“Realtor Mark Wade of Prudential Fox & Roach, who handles Center City condos, said the auction offered the chance for a good deal. ‘At the price point where some of these units may eventually sell, it is hard to highlight any negatives . . . in terms of locale, views, or the fact that the property had problems selling when first offered to the general public,’ Wade said. ‘It is not too amazing what a drastic reduction in sale price can overcome.’”

From WBAL in Maryland. “According to new reports, home foreclosures in Maryland have gone up 80 percent compared to this time last April. To help those in trouble, financial experts, mortgage lenders and housing counselors met with folks in danger of losing their homes at Overlea High School. The volunteers didn’t just help people with foreclosure issues, but they also discussed how to deal with a decrease in value of a home.”

“‘We purchased our house at a real high price and it went down really quick,’ workshop attendee Veronica said. ‘So we want to modify the loan and try and sell it see what our options are.’”

The Capital in Maryland. “Every month, our multiple list system summarizes home sale data for each county that is served by the organization. Since we’re now through the first quarter of 2010, it’s a good time to check in on the numbers and see if we’re coming out of the tunnel yet with respect to our local housing market.”

“Anne Arundel County experienced a housing bubble, just like everywhere. However, the bubble locally was a little different than what we saw nationally. Like politics, all real estate is local, and the nature of the market in our county is evidence of that. This is a very desirable place to live, and our adjacency to Washington, D.C., with our ever-expanding government, has mitigated our exposure to overall weakness in the housing market.”

“Like everywhere, home prices have gone down in the county, but they haven’t gone down as much as the national averages. Plus, the last decade in the county was a period of tremendous growth for home prices, far out-pacing the rest of the country. For example, in 2000, the median home price in our county was 13% higher than home prices nationally. By 2005, local housing prices were 47% above the rest of the U.S., and at the end of 2009, a house here was 71% more expensive than the U.S. average.”

“Some might say this means the bubble here has yet to fully deflate. We don’t think that’s the case. In Anne Arundel County, we have continued strong demand for housing because our unemployment rates are far lower than the nation as a whole and we have very high average salaries.”

Hometown GlenBurnie in Maryland. “Steve Hurst knows what it takes to grade a construction site and to remove trees and brush so that a piece of land is ready to support the infrastructure of a new building. But in November 2008, he was laid off from the local company he had served for many years, along with a mechanic and an equipment operator. Today, he’s one of thousands of unemployed county workers in the construction trades he’s still hunting for work.”

“Lending has virtually evaporated for developers and the residential and commercial real estate have been stagnant for months. At 45 years old, with a wife and two teenage boys at home, Hurst has practically given up on landing another job in the field he knows best. After losing track of the number of jobs he’s applied for, he’s now taking Web technology courses at Anne Arundel Community College. He’s applying for retail positions at Best Buy and Kohl’s - anything to earn him a paycheck at this point, he said.”

“‘It’s not for not trying. I’ve applied for construction jobs, I’ve applied for jobs everywhere,’ Hurt said. ‘I wasn’t comfortable with the construction industry in 2006, when prices were dropping. It has really gotten dog-eat-dog, and so many people (are) going after jobs, trying to get work.’”

The Baltimore Sun in Maryland. “What happens in D.C. matters here. Washington workers were part of the rise and fall of the Baltimore-area housing market, in addition to the lax lending and speculation that gripped the nation. D.C. prices skyrocketed before Baltimore’s. As the cost difference between the District and our metro area jumped from $90,000 on average in 2000 to nearly $240,000 in 2005, more priced-out Washingtonians bought in Baltimore and its suburbs, pushing up prices here.”

“Then the bust hit D.C. and rippled north. Home sales in the Baltimore metro area these days are half as numerous as they were at the peak. Price reductions in Washington that put homes in reach of more people aren’t helping the Baltimore market.”

“From the National Security Agency at Fort Meade to the Social Security Administration in Woodlawn, the federal government has an outsized effect on the Baltimore area. Uncle Sam paid $12 billion here to contractors and employees in 2008, which works out to twice as much per capita as the national average. Johns Hopkins University, a major local employer, gets more federal research-and-development dollars than any other university or college in the country. And the D.C. powers-that-be are relocating thousands of jobs from out-of-state military bases to Harford and Anne Arundel counties this year and next. ‘Baltimore, whether we like it or not, has become an adjunct of the federal government,’ said Richard P. Clinch, director of economic research at the University of Baltimore’s Jacob France Institute. ‘When the government sneezes, we catch the flu.’”

“Clinch sees impending contagion. The federal government has spent more than it collected in taxes for the last 18 months in a row — a record-long stretch of budget deficits. The national debt can’t keep growing at that rate, he said, and any change in spending will affect communities across Maryland.”

The Washington Post. “Since the collapse of the housing market, home buyers trying to a secure mortgage of more than $729,750 have faced higher interest rates and tough new standards to even qualify for a loan. Now the market for these ‘jumbo’ loans is starting to thaw. The home-sales market remains depressed by historic standards, but it has shown signs of improvement, said Lawrence Yun, economist for the National Association of Realtors. Sales of homes worth $750,000 to $1 million increased 39.6 percent in February compared with the same period last year, according to NAR data. Sales of homes worth $1 million or more rose 35.5 percent. But jumbo mortgages still made up just 2 percent of the lending market.”

“‘The upper end of the market is starting to move. It was completely frozen last year,’ Yun said.”

“It has also started to improve in the Washington region, real estate agents said. During the first three months of the year, 146 homes sold for $800,000 or more in Montgomery County, up about 22 percent compared with the same period last year, according to data from the Metropolitan Regional Information Systems. In close-in Northern Virginia, sales above $800,000 were up more than 50 percent from January through March. They were up 20 percent in the District.”

“For some local buyers, a shortage of homes on the market is a more significant problem than obtaining a loan, said Jeff Brier, a principal with the Martin & Jeff Group of Coldwell Banker in the District. A few weeks ago, Brier said, a client offered more than the $2.5 million asking price for a home in the District’s Kalorama neighborhood but still lost out to another buyer. Two bidders also emerged for another Kalorama home listed at $1.55 million last year, Brier said. His client was outbid after the home had been on the market for just eight days. The client offered the seller an additional $100,000 to reconsider — to no avail, he said.”

“‘If it’s a nice house, and it’s priced well, it goes,’ Brier said. ‘Well priced doesn’t mean give your house away. It just means a fair market price.’”

“Citigroup is among the lenders pushing more deeply into the jumbo market. In March, it cut the average interest rate for a jumbo loan from about 7 percent to less than 6 percent for customers who apply through one of its bank branches. The company expects to double its business in the jumbo market this year. ‘We see that that part of the market has been underserved. We believe that it is something we need to get back into in a big way,’ said Sanjiv Das, chief executive of CitiMortgage.”

“Demand for jumbo loans has already picked up in California and New York, two traditionally high-priced markets, he said. ‘It looks like, at the higher end, prices have dropped as much as they needed to, and there is some sense of stabilization in a much broader swath of the country as opposed to six months ago,’ Das said. ‘I am much more confident than I was six months ago that there is a stabilization and that it will stay stable.’”

The News Journal in Delaware. “Home resales got a solid boost from warmer weather and a scramble to take advantage of tax breaks in March, even as foreclosures and sheriff’s sales helped push prices even lower. The falling prices continue to be driven partly by abnormal buyer-seller dynamics, said Cynthia Witt, co-owner of Woodburn Realty in Dover — about a third of the quarterly sales in Kent were sheriff’s sales or bank-owned sales. But demand is clearly strengthening, partly because of tax breaks, partly because of melting snow, and partly because of impatience, Realtors said.”

“‘You can’t discount the emotional part of the marketplace,’ said Bob Weir, executive VP of the New Castle County Board of Realtors.”

“Foreclosures may also dictate the direction of the housing market after the tax incentive is over. Filings rose 16 percent in the first quarter from a year earlier and bank seizures reached a record, according to RealtyTrac.”

From ABC News Money. “When the Obamas arrive in Asheville, N.C., for a vacation, the first couple will find a festive tourist destination and a bustling business hub that, though hurt by the recession, has managed to keep its unemployment level below the national average. If only the rest of the state were so lucky.”

“Some 30 miles away from Asheville, in Waynesville, N.C., furniture store owner Tom Massie, 70, is recovering from his business’s toughest year in decades. For most of 2009, he said, 108-year-old Massie Furniture didn’t turn a profit and Massie had to dip into savings to make ends meet. Massie was able to keep all 12 of his full-time employees, but he watched as businesses around him shed workers and contributed to his home county’s 12.3 percent unemployment rate.”

“‘It’s by far the worst we’ve seen since the Depression that my father and grandfather went through,’ Massie said.”

“The economy in the western part of state, including Waynesville, has also been hurt by a decrease in the number of retirees who — thanks to the ills of the national housing market — are unable to sell their homes in other parts of the country and move to western North Carolina. When the ‘in-migration’ to the region was higher, those retirees helped stimulate both home building and commerce, as they shopped for everything from groceries to furniture to sustain their new lives, said Tony Plath, an associate professor of finance at the University of North Carolina-Charlotte.”

“The downturn of the nation’s banking sector, meanwhile, took a heavy toll on the economy and employment in Charlotte, which lost one of its biggest banks, Wachovia, after it was purchased by Wells Fargo. Charlotte, the home of Bank of America, is still considered the banking hub of the Southeast, but the city and its neighboring towns have lost some 10,000 jobs in the finance sector since 2007, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.”

“A portion of the jobs lost, experts say, were those of high-paid investment bankers — think multi-million dollar bonuses — whose incomes helped support other businesses. ‘When those people show up with all this disposable income and start buying houses and cars and go out for dinner, that has a multiplier effect,’ Plath said. Today, he said, ‘that’s gone.’”

The Citizen Times in North Carolina. “Here’s the TV show you probably won’t see anytime soon: “Wall Street Trauma.” It was high drama back in the fall of 2008. Here was the setup: The American economy comes staggering into the ER. Dr. Hank Paulson steps up for his close-up. His diagnosis: patient’s suffering from a complete seizure of the financial system. His prescription: ‘Give me history’s hugest injection of public money into the private market just to stabilize the patient, stat. We can ward off a Great Depression, if not a credit coma.’”

“It’s all a fantasy, of course. There were no doctors with a miracle cure for the economy, and hardly any cops on the beat, looking for the fingerprints at the financial crime scene. It’s not even clear that any laws were broken, an indication of how unregulated Wall Street had become. Congress has seen a line of top CEOs testifying that no one was really to blame. Even the former Federal Reserve Chairman, Allan Greenspan, at whose every word markets once trembled, said he was blindsided by the economic calamity coming.”

“But it wasn’t just nameless investors who got sideswiped. When the housing bubble finally burst, it left millions of homeowners at risk of foreclosure. In Western North Carolina, OnTrack Financial Education and Consulting is seeing more people who lost their jobs in the resulting Great Recession, and the means to pay regular mortgages, not just the credit-risky borrowers trapped in exploding subprime mortgages. OnTrack is likely to see even more foreclosure cases this year.”

The News Record in North Carolina. “News that economists think it may be time to declare an end to the recession comes as a reminder that economists don’t know squat. Outside the ivory tower, unemployment remains painfully high, the housing market is still broken, and a lot of the good news comes courtesy of unsustainable government intervention. If this is not a recession, I don’t want to see one. Welcome to my column about optimism.”

“So why start with the negatives? Because the negatives are real and persistent and need to be understood if optimism is going to have much meaning. In our short-attention-span, instant-gratification culture, we expect problems to vanish with the next news cycle, and we get frustrated when that doesn’t happen. But it’s not going to happen. As it turns out, ‘worst financial crisis since the ’30s’ and the ‘Great Recession’ were more than glib phrases, and the consequences cannot be wished away.”

“People are going to be hurting for a while. The consumer spending that powered our economy is not going to come roaring back — nor should it, to the extent that the money was borrowed, and often borrowed against inflated assets. I just read a report estimating that some of the renewed spending we are seeing comes courtesy of people who have quit making mortgage payments and so have extra cash to burn. This is not the path to sustainable growth.”

“Neither is the route taken by the big banks, which are reporting fat profits again. Those profits are built not on good loans but on trading operations, which are benefiting from what is essentially free money from the Fed. Sooner or later, interest rates have to rise or we’ll get another bubble.”

“Meanwhile, we’re stuck with a huge amount of real estate, both residential and commercial, that won’t be worth what people paid for it again anytime soon, if ever.”

“But however slowly, the pig will move through the python. The uncertain aftermath of the Great Recession will give way to something else. Something better, I believe. That doesn’t mean the real pain of today can go unaddressed. In many places, including this part of North Carolina and neighboring areas of Virginia, things were not going very well before the bubble, so we can’t just settle for the old status quo.”




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Comment by wmbz
2010-04-28 05:33:41

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.”

If you ‘feel’ the wealth effect, then it’s all good. Never mind the balance sheet.

Comment by mrktMaven FL
2010-04-28 07:00:04

W&W together with the Fed weaved an illusion of wealth while simultaneously gutting the productive capacity of this nation.

It’s not that the banks are too big, the entire financial industry is too big. It’s so big that it is cannibalizing the rest of the economy to survive. It’s so big and entrenched that it seeks permanent life support via the Treasury.

When 9 to 5′ers wake up and realize that their homes and 401-ks are just vehicles to transfer wealth to the mavens on Wall Street the whole thing will come crashing down.

Comment by Bad Chile
2010-04-28 07:12:50

When 9 to 5′ers wake up and realize that their homes and 401-ks are just vehicles to transfer wealth to the mavens on Wall Street the whole thing will come crashing down.

Agreed, but why would they give up the dream? Asking the 9-5ers to stop playing the lotto with their 401(k) and house is like asking the down-and-out to not buy lotto tickets.

Comment by Julius
2010-04-28 14:49:34

Ooo good analogy

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Comment by scdave
2010-04-28 08:19:49

401-ks are just vehicles to transfer wealth to the mavens on Wall Street ??

Exactly why I never started one…

Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-28 09:01:02

A grocery store is just vehicle that transfers wealth to it’s owners, but it beats having to grow my own dinner.

Sure, someone takes their cut unless you “grow your own” investments, but that should be expected..

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-04-28 10:38:35

Sure, but their their cost, vs. what we are getting in the way of returns, is pretty poor right now.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-28 11:08:11

Hey, it all about the ratio between price and dividend*. All else is pure speculation. The problem is that higher equity prices just mean that a purchaser pays more for the future stream of dividends.

*And I do mean dividend, not earnings. Certainly the number of companies going bankrupt these days should disabuse people of the notion that retained earnings will lead to even more earnings and a higher stock price in the future. Dividends are what you take home from the roulette wheel. Retained earnings are just letting it ride.

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-28 11:29:34

..higher equity prices just mean that a purchaser pays more for the future stream of dividends..

For today’s purchaser, yes. But if you purchased a while back when the stock was cheaper, rising equity prices mean large gains that could be immediately realized.. which is why people might want to start investing earlier rather than later in life.
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I’ve been thinking about the difference between speculation and gambling..

In a casino the mathematical odds are deliberately and precisely set against the player. Like if you play slots an infinite number of times, you are guaranteed to lose perhaps 5% of your money, or whatever odds are programmed into the game’s computer.
If you happen to get ahead and quit while you’re ahead, you win. That’s gambling.

In contrast, speculation has no set odds. There is some unknown chance of losing if you play an infinite number of times, but it’s never a mathematical certainty that you will lose.

 
Comment by mikey
2010-04-28 14:13:13

“In contrast, speculation has no set odds. There is some unknown chance of losing if you play an infinite number of times, but it’s never a mathematical certainty that you will lose.”

As he didn’t drink or gamble, my friend’s dad had the additional duties of setting and checking the Officers Club’s slot machine’s payoff’s on a small AF Base and we used to watch him as small kids.

To answer our kid questions, he’d merely grin and say, “Whether you gamble with these One-Armed Bandits or the Two-Armed Bandits, you’re gonna lose money sooner or later…it’s just a matter of time and how much you bet.”

(of course, the cheap ratfink would never give us the payoff settings, a couple of tall stools and a few handfulls of quarters to test his hairbrained theories.)

;)

 
Comment by Jim A
2010-04-28 20:40:06

Equity prices are a zero sum game. For every extra dollar somebody gets, somebody else had to pay an extra dollar. Stock prices can only go up if people spend more money on stocks. But dividends are like the 0 on the roulette wheel. To the extant that a stock pays ‘em, it’s possible to make money over the long term.

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-29 02:44:35

When I was real young, like 7 or 8, there was some reason my dad took me into the pool hall across the street from where he worked… one of those small, dark smoky smelly old places . Come to think of it, he was pretty young too.. but it was so cool because with the alcohol, you had to be 21 to get in.. and they gambled.. illegal at the time.

Anyway, we weren’t in there 5 minutes before a fight broke out and these two big guys went at it serious like.. trying to kill each other. Genuine mayhem with fists and bodies and broken bottles and stuff flying around. It lasted maybe 15 seconds.
I will never forget this one guy’s face completely covered with blood because he looked right at me as he ran out the door. Then the guy behind the bar came out screaming with what i guess was a shotgun, and ran after him.
Dad grabbed me and we… went home i think.. it’s a blur..

I don’t know if that incident made any sort of impression on me, but i subsequently wasted most of my younger days and lots of money hanging in and around pool halls and gambling and even fighting on the rare occasion..

 
Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-29 05:51:39

<I…Equity prices are a zero sum game..

A zero sum game is where one person must lose a dollar before another can gain a dollar..

Nobody loses money simply by buying stock. Buyers get something in return for their money… ie they now own some portion of a business. The guy who sold the shares may well have gained money.

Jim, I get your point about dividends being value added, and independent of stock prices, but zero-sum game wouldn’t be the proper term to describe it.

 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-04-28 10:31:44

someone takes their cut unless you “grow your own” investments ??

Which is exactly what I do…

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Comment by mikey
2010-04-28 12:24:49

Says mikey, upside down, while being vigerously shaken by his little heels.

“It looks like the gov’t, the Wall Street Boyz and PTB have really one-upped the old Capital One slogan “Whats in your wallet ?” to:

“We KNOW what’s in your wallet…and what you WILL pay each month!!”

“Hey…Not my Timex too !!”

:)

 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-04-28 07:15:17

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again.”

Epitaph of a generation.

Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-04-28 09:30:24

It is great: “Recovery” = insane spending beyond one’s means and paying too much for housing.

Also, we need to make people “feel” wealthy again. Yep - that beats actually having real income, a real job, etc. Just “feel good” and everything will work out!

 
Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-04-28 10:39:51

It is better to feel wealthy, than to be wealthy, you know what I mean…..

Comment by mikey
2010-04-28 13:03:59

“It is better to feel wealthy, than to be wealthy, you know what I mean…..”

…and “It is better to feel alive, than to be held underwater by mean people too, you know what I mean…”

:)

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Comment by salinasron
2010-04-28 08:44:57

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.”

And that is the whole crux of the governments push along with its media accomplices. It’s worked in the past but won’t work this time as they still don’t have a grasp of the situation.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-28 11:10:33

Confusing wants, needs, and will happens. They want house prices to go up, so the need house prices to go up so somehow house prices will go up.

 
 
 
Comment by Natalie
2010-04-28 05:36:49

Misericordia University economics professor John Sumansky, Ph.D: “I think is that this particular recession was centered around those kinds of factors that affected people’s wealth, how wealthy did you think you were. . . . So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.” So as long as we keep continuing to allow ppl to leverage debt they cant afford to pay back we will be fine, but there can be no recovery if we just let debt levels fall back to manageable levels, i.e., by allowing assets to become affordable based on current salaries. I really don’t this this guy is fit to be teaching anyone anything. How do you get a Ph.D without even having a general understanding of the most basic prinicples upon which your field is based?

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-28 06:47:09

‘News that economists think it may be time to declare an end to the recession comes as a reminder that economists don’t know squat.’

‘Outside the ivory tower, unemployment remains painfully high, the housing market is still broken, and a lot of the good news comes courtesy of unsustainable government intervention’

Sometimes I wonder if I was the only person listening in econ 101. Recessions are how the economy purges mal-investments, and retools resources toward sustainable endeavors. I don’t like recessions, but the function it’s performing, post-housing bubble is to redirect people like this:

‘Lending has virtually evaporated for developers and the residential and commercial real estate have been stagnant for months. At 45 years old, with a wife and two teenage boys at home, Hurst has practically given up on landing another job in the field he knows best. After losing track of the number of jobs he’s applied for, he’s now taking Web technology courses at Anne Arundel Community College’

I wish him luck. And I also wish the PTB could see that we have to get away from the HB economy.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-04-28 07:24:11

Domesticated animals are subject to physical illness if their feed is changed abruptly.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-28 07:25:48

“he’s now taking Web technology courses at Anne Arundel Community College’”

Wait until he finds out how low starting pay is. Duriung the San Diego real estate crash of the early 90’s my next door neighbor, a building boy, was unemployed. He too was thinking of taking a couple of classes at the local JC and becoming a “software engineer”.

I told him that it wouldn’t be that easy, as employers were starting to demand 4 year degrees for entry level Software Engineers.

“Ok, say I do that, what’s the starting pay? 80-90K?” He asked. Remember this is 1992.

WHen I informed him that it was a lot less than that (say 30-40K) and it would takes years to work up to 70-80K he was shocked to say the least. He said he had been making over 100K as a foreman in residential construction.

He wound up starting a pool cleaning business instead, which the recession killed in less than a year. After that they “strategically defaulted” on the house and moved to the bay area.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 08:26:49

Here’s another problem with the web technology field: It’s not that you have to know about web technology, you have to be up on a lot of other things.

Like publishing, which website development is, when you come down to it. If you’ve never produced a publication before, you’re in for a bit of a learning curve.

You also have to have a good eye for design, especially layout and the use of color. Ditto for photo editing, which is an art in and of itself. Can’t have a good website without effective photos.

Oh, did I mention trends in computer applications and the communication industry overall? Gotta stay on top of those too.

And there will come a time when a project will require the skills of many people. How good are you at managing a team?

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Comment by In Montana
2010-04-28 13:07:18

Yeah, all we need is more web grunts who can’t spell or punctuate, and still think black-reverse font and busy wallpaper are cool.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-04-28 08:30:32

Anything billed as “technology” rather than “engineering” is even easier to outsource. Does this guy know he’s going to have to move his family to India to get a “web technology” job?

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Comment by mrktMaven FL
2010-04-28 07:33:06

How can Washington fix the problem when it is in love with the problem — Big Finance? And, it’s not a normal love it’s an incestuous love. Despite all the evidence — crashing housing bubble and high unemployment — they are having a hard time breaking the bonds that unite them. Like horny teens, they still coddle it, pet it, and want to make it bigger and better.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-04-28 08:26:55

I agree Ben….The housing construction industry was a huge bubble…Many people in that line of work, would be wise to look in a new direction…

 
Comment by mikey
2010-04-28 13:32:49

‘News that economists think it may be time to declare an end to the recession comes as a reminder that economists don’t know squat.’

Sheesh Ben…I’m deep into Robert Shiller’s Yale Econ 252 : Financial Markets class lecture videos in my spare time…

And NOW you tell me this …!?!

“These messages are seven bloody hours old! Seven hours…”

;)

 
 
Comment by The_Overdog
2010-04-28 08:12:37

You get your PHD at a place called Misericordia University.

Comment by DennisN
2010-04-28 08:32:11

Everyone knows Misericordia loves company.

Talk about the “dismal science”…an econ prof at Misericordia.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-04-28 09:15:05

Actually “Misericordia” means “Mercy” in Spanish. It was founded the the “Sisters of Mercy”.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-28 11:15:23

Misericorde (mercy) is also the name of the long thin stiletto used to dispatch the wounded on the medieval battelfield.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 06:10:06

‘I am much more confident than I was six months ago that there is a stabilization and that it will stay stable.’

What as-yet unannounced government subsidy program are these people counting on? Or is this just a case of lingering post-bubble-burst denial rearing its ugly head?

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 06:16:25

It is hard to believe Megabank, Inc would start securitizing Jumbos again without some kind of unannounced government subsidy or back room deal to pay them off. Banksters don’t work for free, you know.

Wednesday April 28, 2010

Bloomberg
Redwood, Citigroup End Two-Year Mortgage-Bond Drought(Update2)
April 23, 2010, 6:08 PM EDT
By Jody Shenn

April 23 (Bloomberg) — Redwood Trust Inc. and Citigroup Inc. partnered to create the first new-mortgage securities without government-backed guarantees in more than two years, selling $222.4 million of the debt at lower yields than initially offered.

The AAA rated securities pay an initial coupon of 3.75 percent, according to a statement from Mill Valley, California- based Redwood, the jumbo-mortgage specialist that issued the bonds through an affiliate and will retain a lower-ranking interest in the underlying pool of $237.8 million of loans.

The offering ends a drought in the $1.5 trillion non-agency mortgage-bond market, where more than $200 billion of jumbo-loan securities were issued in each year from 2003 to 2006. The underlying loans are safer than ones backing such bonds before housing collapsed, said Thomas Atteberry of First Pacific Advisors in Los Angeles, who bought some of the debt.

The higher quality of the loans, especially the fact that the mortgages represent only 60 percent of the value of the properties, makes “me feel comfortable I’m covered if something goes awry,” said Atteberry, who shared Morningstar Inc.’s 2008 fixed-income manager of the year award with a colleague after predicting non-agency mortgage securities would plunge.

Today, “the availability of mortgage product is next to nothing,” and that stoked demand as investors looked for higher yields, said Atteberry. The lower supply includes a dearth of agency home-loan securities, which are backed by government- supported Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac or federal agency Ginnie Mae.

Underlying Mortgages

Citigroup extended the 255 underlying mortgages, which have an average size of $932,699, in the new bonds in the past 11 months, people familiar with the matter said April 21. The bank underwrote the sale with JPMorgan Chase & Co. as co-manager.

Comment by Natalie
2010-04-28 06:32:44

“It is hard to believe Megabank, Inc would start securitizing Jumbos again without some kind of unannounced government subsidy or back room deal to pay them off. Banksters don’t work for free, you know.” The securitizers are paid at closing from sales proceeds as a cost of issuance, the question should not be who is working on such deals for fees but who is buying the securities and at what price.

Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-28 06:41:58

‘the availability of mortgage product is next to nothing,’ and that stoked demand as investors looked for higher yields, said Atteberry. The lower supply includes a dearth of agency home-loan securities’

‘Investors’ chasing yields.

‘the mortgages represent only 60 percent of the value of the properties’

If you read the Post article, these guys are putting in details that cover their behind to a point. But you have to wonder how significant 240 jumbo loans are to a market like DCs, much less spread out nationally.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-04-28 10:58:00

It’s all about the headline. The rest of the story is in the small print.

Sort of like the headlines blaring “Sales up 5% from last year”, which sounds great, until you find out that last year’s sales were down 50% from 2008.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-04-28 09:33:43

There will be another program - maybe the unlimited handouts to Fannie and Freddie are the new form, but who knows - but finding the new program will be the trick. New Bailouts will be much better hidden than the old ones; we wouldn’t want the sheeple to be offended by all this. Now, get out there and buy an overpriced shack today!

 
 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 06:20:42

Now Is the Time to End the Mortgage Interest Deduction

Posted by Mark A. Calabria

If there is one, almost universal, point of agreement on drivers of the financial crisis, it is that our financial system simply had way too much leverage. Much of that discussion has focused on financial institutions, leading many to suggest increased capital standards, so that banks have more equity and less debt. Often lost in the mix is the excessive leverage on the part of home owners.

We know, for instance, that the number one predictor of mortgage default is whether the borrower has equity or not. And while that should lead us to debate appropriate downpayment requirements, at least when the government backs the mortgage, we should not forget that our tax code encourages excessive leverage on the part of home buyers. And there’s no bigger incentive to get a bigger mortgage than the mortgage interest deduction.

Some might say we can’t risk removing any props from the housing market. My friends at the National Association of Realtors, for instance, have in the past argued that full removal would decrease home prices by up to 15 percent. Such an estimate depends on the level of interest rates (the higher are mortgage rates, the higher the value of the deduction and the greater the impact on house prices). With the current low level of mortgage rates, the negative price impact should be around 5 percent.

Given the already close to 30% national decline in prices, a further 5% would be less noticeable now than at a time when prices start to rise again. In addition, a 5% decline would attract more buyers into the market. Housing is just like any other good — when there’s too much, the best way to clear the market, perhaps the only way, is to drop prices. Getting rid of the deduction would make housing all the more affordable. And given current low mortgage rates,there would be far less distortions to do so now. Of course, all of this should be done in a budget neutral manner, lowering marginal tax rates across the board, which would have its own benefits to the economy.
Mark A. Calabria • April 15, 2010 @ 12:19 pm

Comment by oxide
2010-04-28 08:28:26

Some might say we can’t risk removing any props from the housing market. My friends at the National Association of Realtors, for instance, have in the past argued that full removal would decrease home prices by up to 15 percent.

Wouldn’t this be a GOOD thing for buyers? They would have to pay the interest with after-tax dollars, but they would be paying less interest overall. I’m too lazy to run any numbers, but it would seem to cancel out in the end. The Re-al-TORs would make up their drop in commissions on volume.

Of course, how many people sit down with a 30-year full-amort table and actually discover that over 30 years they are paying at least as much for interest as for the house itself, and that less principle mean much less monthly nut? And that interest money does little more than pay for bank profits — especially now that grunt work is done by computers instead of humans.

30 years is a LONG time.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 08:31:23

My understanding is that if your house price is X, then the total outgo over the course of a 30-year mortgage is 3X. As in, two thirds of what you’re paying is interest.

Feel free to correct me on the above!

Comment by oxide
2010-04-28 10:28:42

That’s what my parents said too, when I was a wee one: “You will pay triple for that house.” But that was in the 70’s when interest rates were 12% or so. I bet it’s closer to “double” now.

And apparently owning was a better deal than renting, even in the 70’s.

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Comment by X-GSfixr
2010-04-28 11:02:19

You guys are looking at it from a buyer’s point of view. Their view doesn’t count.

It’s all about inflating the value of the “asset” to make people feel richer. And to keep property taxes artificially high. And to keep from forcing the banks to write down the asset.

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-04-28 10:31:55

Which is exactly why the “housing wealth effect” is bogus for the vast majority or mortgage payers.

Renting from the bank, and paying property taxes to boot.

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Comment by JohnF
2010-04-28 12:42:37

Some examples:

5% rate, 30yr fixed on $200,000

Total payments (P and I) - $386,511.57
Total interest - $186,511.57

7% rate, 30yr fixed on $200,000

Total payments (P and I) - $479,017.80
Total interest - $279,017.80

10% rate, 30yr fixed on $200,000

Total payments (P and I) - $631,851.53
Total interest - $431,851.53

So it is very interest rate sensitive as to how much your total payment is to the amount borrowed.

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Comment by The_Overdog
2010-04-28 12:59:44

You can use the rule of 72 to tell how much interest you would pay over the course of 30 years.
Divide your rate by 72, and it will tell you how many times it doubles.

IE:
At 4%, 72/4 = interest doubles every 18 years. rough math says interest is around 1.5 times the cost of the house.

at 6%, 72/6 = interest doubles every 12 years. that’s 2X interest to original price.

at 9%, 72/9 = intest doubles every 8 years. that’s close to 4X interest to orignal price over 30 years.

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Comment by In Montana
2010-04-28 13:11:12

Divide your rate by 72

You mean divide 72 by your rate..

 
 
 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-28 11:22:22

Well I’ve argued here before that the MID ISN’T a subsidy for owner/occupiers. Because landlords ALWAYS get to deduce their interest as a business expense. So in the absense of a a MID, homeownership is at a tax disadvantage compared with a landlord/tenant scheme of ownership.

Now the exclusion of capital gains taxes on your primary residence OTOH, I really can’t see any good reason for that except to pander to the middle class.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-04-28 08:40:27

Calabria has a point…this is a great time to drop all or part of the MID. In the immortal words of Rahm Emanuel, we shouldn’t let a crisis go to waste. :lol:

Mortgage rates are at an all-time low: house prices have dropped a great deal. What’s a better time to drop the MID?

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-04-28 14:10:42

Sure, but don’t forget we need to get rid of business interest deducting from their profits too. Landlords deduct interest as a business expense.

If it goes away, expect married couples to put their houses in one person’s name and ‘rent’ it to the other person.

 
 
 
Comment by Natalie
2010-04-28 06:23:42

“It is hard to believe Megabank, Inc would start securitizing Jumbos again without some kind of unannounced government subsidy or back room deal to pay them off. Banksters don’t work for free, you know.” The securitizers are paid at closing from sales proceeds as a cost of issuance, the question should not be who is working on such deals for fees but who is buying the securities and at what price.

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-04-28 06:35:48

“decrease in the number of retirees who — thanks to the ills of the national housing market — are unable to sell their homes in other parts of the country”

oh, they probably could sell if they really wanted to. lol

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-04-28 13:10:27

We’re seeing that here as well. Too many of those who are ready to retire can’t, because their assets have gone to zero. With a shrunken 401k and negative equity in the McMansion, they’ll be working until they die.

As a result, retires here who want or have to move (health problems, spouse’s death) are out of luck. But most of our friends here who I try to explain that to, either can’t or don’t want to understand.

 
 
Comment by Ben Jones
2010-04-28 06:44:22

‘Anne Arundel County experienced a housing bubble, just like everywhere. However, the bubble locally was a little different…all real estate is local’

And so it goes…

Comment by bink
2010-04-28 07:42:09

Now that is a literary reference I can get behind for this bubble.

It’s different here, hon.

Comment by oxide
2010-04-28 13:07:11

Given the job security of the Baltimore-Washington area, it very well could be different here.

Comment by AuAgPb
2010-04-28 15:12:04

Right until it isn’t

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Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-04-28 07:44:28

It was different, really. They all talk Balamerese there, so it was a “haowsinbubbl”.

 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-04-28 09:40:10

Hahaha… Oh, yeah - “it’s different here!”

Yeah, okay, our taxes aren’t as high as neighboring counties, but gimme a break: the laws of math and economics still apply, and one can’t just buy a house at 4x to 5x one’s household income and expect everything to magically work out fine.

As an example of how different it is in Anne Arundel County, back in late 2005 I went “trolling for Realtors” at a local condoze complex that was nicely built next to a gas station, near an adult video store and laundromats, etc. Prices for basement units (a basement condo - what a bummer!) started at about $280,000 with the upper floor ones going for $320,000. These prices were absurd, but I wanted to hear how the crazy Realtor would try to explain this away. She used the typical lies of “it’s different here” and how “BRAC will bring a zillion people to Maryland, all of whom will immediately buy the most overpriced house they can find” and so on.

Now, those same condoze having wishing prices of $190,000 and less, even for the upper floor units. Yeah, nothing like a 6-figure loss and still not being able to sell the place.

It is different here!

Comment by Jim A.
2010-04-28 11:27:29

Well RE IS local. But in general, the RULES are the same. Which is to say that the constants (median income, local tax ratres etc) are different but the equations (debt to income, ammortization schedules etc) are the same.

 
 
Comment by Dave of the North
2010-04-28 10:12:22

“All real estate is local” but stupidity and greed are global…

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 10:26:27

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner!

 
 
 
Comment by mrktMaven FL
2010-04-28 07:17:44

“Sooner or later, interest rates have to rise or we’ll get another bubble.”

Now that the confidence men on Wall Street and their gullible sycophants in Washington have been exposed, how long and how much control will the central planners have in determining this outcome? Will it come gently or suddenly? Just look across the Atlantic at the Greeks to get the answer. When the sovereign debt bubble blows, look out!

 
Comment by oxide
2010-04-28 07:44:34

more people who lost their jobs in the resulting Great Recession, and the means to pay regular mortgages, not just the credit-risky borrowers trapped in exploding subprime mortgages.

At least SOMEbody is distinguishing between the true victim and the FB.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 07:55:43

International Business Times
Economist Says It’s Time to Raise Rates
27 April 2010 @ 01:15 pm EDT

Some economists are saying that it’s time for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates.

Ken Rosen, chair of the University of California Fisher Center for Real Estate, says the financial crisis is over and short-term rates today should be 2 to 3 percent. By keeping rates so low, “We are encouraging asset bubbles in the stock market, bond markets, and global real estate,” Rosen says.

Demand for housing will increase as employers hire more workers, Rosen adds.

Rosen predicts construction of new homes will remain well below the historical norm of 1.1 million homes a year for at least two or three years and foreclosures will set records in 2010. “The shadow inventory is real,” he says.

 
Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 07:59:27

Is anyone else sensing a disconnect between MSM reports on the housing market and fundamental underlying reality? Not to suggest there is anything new here — it has pretty much gone on this way persistently ever since the bubble popped in 2006 or so.

Foreclosures Hit New High in March, Up 19%

Apr 15 2010, 8:00 AM ET

Foreclosures soared to 367,056 in March, up 19% from February and 8% higher than March 2009, according to foreclosure data specialist RealtyTrac. That’s the highest level the firm has seen since it began issuing foreclosure reports in 2005. This is a jarring verdict for the U.S. housing market’s supposed recovery. Until March, foreclosures had increased in only one of the prior seven months.

For a visual of how bad this month was compared to those for the past two years, check out the following chart:

foreclosures 2010-03 by month.PNG

RealtyTrac also documents state-by-state foreclosures. Here were the ten worst by foreclosures per housing unit:

foreclosures 2010-03 top 10 dot PNG

As you can see, all but two in this list had more foreclosures in March than February. Some had drastically more, including Georgia up 46%, California up 36% and Nevada up 34%. Nevada continued to be the state with the most troubled housing market last month. In March, one in every 76 housing units in Nevada received a foreclosure filing. California also had a particularly poor month, with its rank rising from fourth worst in February to second worst last month. The top 10 states accounted for more than two-thirds of all foreclosures in March.

RealtyTrac’s March report also includes some analysis on 2010’s first-quarter. It isn’t pretty. During the quarter 932,234 properties received foreclosure filings. That’s a 7% increase from the fourth quarter of 2008 and 16% higher than the first quarter of 2009. One in every 138 U.S. housing units filed for foreclosure in the first quarter of this year.

State-level data for the quarter is also troubling. Again, Nevada was the worst by foreclosure density with one foreclosure for every 33 housing units. Arizona and Florida followed with one foreclosure for every 49 and 57 housing units, respectively. California had the largest in number with 216,263.

It’s pretty hard to glean anything positive from today’s report, but RealtyTrac CEO James Saccacio does so in a roundabout way. He notes that increases in foreclosure activity were skewed towards the final stage of foreclosures, with real estate owned (REO) foreclosures increasing 9% for the quarter. From this, he concludes:

“This subtle shift in the numbers pushed REOs to the highest quarterly total we’ve ever seen in our report and may be further evidence that lenders are starting to make a dent in the backlog of distressed inventory that has built up over the last year as foreclosure prevention programs and processing delays slowed down the normal foreclosure time line.”

Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-28 10:09:25

367,056 in March . That insures nearly 5 million more empty properties will be sitting in the dark, unloved and starving a year from now..

We kindhearted people must do something to help them..
I got it.. The “ASPCA”.. American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Alligators.. or the AAA.. Adopt An Alligator.

dang.. both ASPCA and AAA are already being used.. what are the chances of that..

Comment by Professor Bear
2010-04-28 14:37:39

12*367,056 = 4,404,672 or so additional dead and abandoned alligators by this time next year. Doesn’t the Endangered Species Act protect alligators against this kind of carnage?

 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 08:28:36

“People are going to be hurting for a while. The consumer spending that powered our economy is not going to come roaring back — nor should it, to the extent that the money was borrowed, and often borrowed against inflated assets. I just read a report estimating that some of the renewed spending we are seeing comes courtesy of people who have quit making mortgage payments and so have extra cash to burn. This is not the path to sustainable growth.”

Interesting to see how the MSM is picking up on the same points we made here six months ago.

Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-28 09:25:37

While it’s rarely in their interest to report it, the MSM probably drops by here once in a while just to find out what’s really going on.

 
 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-04-28 08:37:27

The American economy comes staggering into the ER. Dr. Hank Paulson steps up for his close-up. His diagnosis: patient’s suffering from a complete seizure of the financial system. His prescription: ‘Give me history’s hugest injection of public money into the private market just to stabilize the patient, stat. We can ward off a Great Depression, if not a credit coma.

Dr. Feelgood.

 
Comment by Doug in Boone, NC
2010-04-28 08:55:29

“The economy in the western part of state, including Waynesville, has also been hurt by a decrease in the number of retirees.”

Just about the whole encomony of the area of western NC I live in is based on the assumption that Florida would have an unlimited number of retirees who, goes thethinking of our local government wheeling-and-dealing “geniuses”, will have an unlimited amount of money and will all want to spend their goloden-years summers in their second homes, playing golf.

Case in point: Right above my house are the bankrupted ruins of a 4000-acre site, the remnants of Bobby Ginn’s hoodwinking the county into believing he was going to develop an upscale, golfing community called Laurelmore, which was supposed to add billions of dollars to the local economy. Of course, the county “geniuses” bought his line lock, stock and barrel, and went on a spending spree based on what was supposed to be “safe” future revenue from all of those rich retirees. Now the county is millions of dollars in debt. When I checked foreclosure.com the other day I saw where lots that people had probably paid at least 500K for (the minimum price) were now selling for 50K.

Comment by oxide
2010-04-28 10:34:58

NC and TN were counting on half-backing* like nobody’s business. and VA. There were whole magazines titled “Where to Retire” which pushed halfbacking pretty hard. (Charlottseville VA #1 again!)

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*People who retired from New England to Florida, decided FL was too hot buggy lizardy and built-up, and came half-way back to Appalachia with its midway climate and podunk living expenses.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 13:34:33

Interesting. Last summer while visiting my aunt in northern Vermont, we spent a day at the state capitol building in Montpelier. My aunt’s a tour guide there.

That day, she was training a new guide, who’d moved back to VT from Florida. Reason: She wanted to be closer to her family.

I suspect that she’s not the only one making this sort of decision. Among today’s elders, proximity to family means a lot. Much more so than, say, 30 or 40 years ago when Grandma and Grandpa were moving to Florida or Arizona en masse.

 
 
 
Comment by swguy
2010-04-28 09:20:35

Every real estate agent has the same line “really a desirable place to live”, a agent I knew who said this all the time to nauseam came into a large inheritance and guess what the desirable place to live,they bolted there area?

Comment by joeyinCalif
2010-04-28 09:44:55

What’s even worse than the REIC’s successfully perverting the meaning of the “American Dream” is their success at convincing America that real estate salespeople care about anything except their own well being.

 
Comment by jbunniii
2010-04-28 14:21:45

Every real estate agent has the same line “really a desirable place to live”

Imagine being a realtor in, say, Detroit and having to say that with a straight face.

 
 
Comment by Pondering the Mess
2010-04-28 09:26:47

“Then the bust hit D.C. and rippled north. Home sales in the Baltimore metro area these days are half as numerous as they were at the peak. Price reductions in Washington that put homes in reach of more people aren’t helping the Baltimore market.”

What a laugh - “Oh noes! Price reductions in one area means another area may have to reduce prices! This is horrible! We need to keep Maryland housing at 4x to 5x household income or we’re DOOMED!!!”

Man, I *wish* the housing market in this state would be clobbered! There are still way to many Bubbleheads and Deniers out there who think we’ll be back to Bubble-mania in a few months and that housing should both be unaffordable and an “investment” in which one dabbles in one’s free time?!

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 09:51:56

What a laugh - “Oh noes! Price reductions in one area means another area may have to reduce prices! This is horrible! We need to keep Maryland housing at 4x to 5x household income or we’re DOOMED!!!”

Sounds like the current thinking here in Tucson. Especially the house prices to household incomes ratio.

 
 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2010-04-28 10:30:18

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.”

Thats it… screw all the young people that don’t ‘own’ houses yet. Kick the can down the road until all the people currently in power have died off, and the then middle-aged young people can pay for it all.

 
Comment by swguy
2010-04-28 10:40:28

I know I shouldn’t bring up anything but housing on the site but here it goes:
Three cheers for the great State of Arizona, you have always been a rebel, a little different, but God love you anyhow.
You got the guts to challenge the federal gov’t in protecting your citizens I don’t drink alcohol but I will drink water to that!

Comment by MrBubble
2010-04-28 11:22:29

Why don’t you go with that feeling, and not.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-04-28 13:36:01

I think that, if nothing else, the new AZ law will send a loud message to the feds: Protect our nation’s borders. We can’t do it for you.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-04-28 14:37:35

Slim what if we gave mexico a taste of their own medicine? they shoot fence jumpers on their southern border and they don’t aim to miss.

Comment by Biff Henderson
2010-04-28 16:19:11

I wish you right-wingers would make up your minds, you want cheap labor or expensive produce ?

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Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-04-28 14:41:25

I was hoping California’s terrible employment situation would send the illegals streaming into Arizona.

No such luck, I guess.

Nevada and Oregon, expect your “population” to increase some more!

 
 
 
Comment by Boise IDaho
2010-04-28 11:07:22

Boise has had a great spring buying season. My fear is that sales are not showing a true recovery as unemployment is at 10% on paper. Unemployment equals not only people not buying homes but also people losing their home. That is why we have had such a strong foreclosure and short sale real estate market. Fortunately, it seems that the demand for these properties is strog . We are seeing sales prices higher then asking prices on these homes.

Comment by Bad Chile
2010-04-28 21:15:19

Ohhh. A different handle from the spammer this time!

 
Comment by Shizo
2010-04-29 07:14:40

It is just an $8000 blip. Lots of REO properties are selling up here in CDA. The “regular” overpriced market? Not so much. Just the low-end (as deal-a-turds proclaim) <$200K. Anything $300K+ is rotting on the shelf.

 
 
Comment by jbunniii
2010-04-28 13:53:19

“So if we’re looking for recovery, we’ve got to get people feeling wealthy again. So those home prices have to come back.”

Much of the financial crisis can be attributed to people “feeling wealthy” when they were not wealthy. Maybe we shouldn’t want that to happen again.

 
Comment by property in Vietnam
2010-04-29 00:14:27

I agree with jbunniii. The crisis affected not just common people, but all the industries. We shouldn’t do something to make people “feel wealthy”, but we need to bring back the economic activities active again slowly just to boost up. It will not make people feel wealthy, but they will feel that there’s many things to be done to make it work again…

 
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