Bits Bucket For May 2, 2010
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
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Another early Sunday morning…
Yeah……I’m trying to finish up paperwork before I drive to DFW tomorrow.
Start a two week school on Monday….guess that means that my contract will run for at least a year.
About 7-8 hour from here, (the way I drive). More like 10 for a normal person. Dropping my mom off at my sister’s place. Will get to spend 8 hours in the car, getting filled in on what’s happening on “Survivor”, “American Idol”, and “Dancing with the Stars”….
Man, where did I leave those icepicks?……….
Yuch. I’m going to get up and dressed early today to participate in the 11:00 AM EDT (9:00 AM MDT) “a moment in time” that the NY Times is putting together. The idea is that everyone takes a photo at the same moment in time for the Times to put up on a photo blog.
http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/readers-11/?ref=global-home
Typical “east coast bias” on the part of the NY Times: 11:00 AM EDT is too early for decent shots of the Rockies here in Boise. I would expect most submittals to be from the US and other places in north and south America. Why didn’t they choose a time to help the most people e.g. 2 or 3 PM EDT? It’s still dark in parts of AK and HI at 11 AM EDT.
Like to start some feedback about my Mom’s situation with Wells Fargo and her mortgage. My Father recently passed away, leaving my Mom without his income to help pay the mortgage. Wells found out and offered a 3 month trial of lowered payments to see if they could put her in a program of loan modification. She agreed, made all agreed upon payments and after the trial period, her loan mod was rejected.
3 days later, a certified letter wass sent threatening the acceleration of the loan if X amount of money was not sent to bring the loan current. The loan was current when the program began. The program was not asked for but solicited by the bank. In effect they took a current loan, categorized it as in default and are close to foreclosing.
She is 76, legally blind and not a flipper. Is the bank becoming like Washington D.C., we’re here to help?
How did your father anticipate your mother paying the mortgage after his passing?
LOL…good question!
eddiamond,
I’m sorry to hear about your father’s passing.
You might want to consider speaking to an attorney. If things really transpired as you say, it sounds like they messed something up. Have you called them to explain your story?
Best of luck to you and your mom on this. It’s the last thing she needs right now.
i DID CALL THEM AND EXPLAIN THE SITUATION, THEY HAVE NO SYMPATHY FOR WHAT THEY HAVE CAUSED. SEEING HOW THEY GAVE AN 81 YEAR OLD MAN AND HIS 76 YEAR OLD WIFE A THIRTY YEAR MORTGAGE AT 50 PERCENT OF THEIR INCOME SEEMS PREDATORY AT BEST ANYHOW. THE HOUSE IS NOT TOO FAR UNDERWATER AND WITH HER MEDICAL CONDITIONS ITS PROBABLY BEST TO STAY HERE.
An 81 yr-old man and his 76 year old wife had no business taking out a 30-year mortgage, nor would any sane lender give them one.
I agree, SS. While I sympathize with the situation, I think it is fair to assume that your parents were not forced against their will to take the mortgage. A 30-year fixed rate mortgage is hardly considered predatory, and rare was the mortgage broker that would steer an uneducated client into that mortgage over an ARM or neg-am mortgage.
That being said, the blog has given good advice - get a lawyer and speak to a few in-home care agencies. A legally blind woman living alone in a single family house not be in a situation that is medically and socially best for her.
Agree the priority now is to extricate her from a bad situation. But let’s be clear-eyed enough to recognize where the fault lies in this situation. Banks cannot be expected to prevent people from making bad decisions.
She is 76, legally blind….Consider speaking to an attorney ??
Nope….Your best bet is to go to the local newspaper with your moms story…
Good call, scdave. If they take the story and run with it, the bank will be falling all over themselves trying to right the situation.
Yepp…..
Can you afford to pay the mortgage yourself? It’s hard for older people to move. What did they do with the money from the refinance - is any money available?
A few questions / points to consider…
What is best for your Mom…
1) Does she WANT to stay in her current location now that she is widowed?
2) CAN she stay there long term considering her age and physical limitations?
And what is best financially…
3) Is it underwater?
4) Is it a location that makes any sense in the longer term?
5) Is there another location that would be better, both financially and practically?
Bottom line:
What is the most “sustainable” situation that insures your mothers happiness, health and financial stability?
I had a similar situation, of drastically reduced income for surviving parent… We ended arranging a move to a better long term location. But this was before all the housing craziness.
I’d be suspicious of anyone approaching you unsolicited about something like that when you are in a vulnerable situation, such as recent widowhood. I’d have a good lawyer really look it all over. Seems a bit predatory.
Good luck.
I know that everybody should be responsible for their decisions in life
but I think something should be said about the way loans were sold
during the boom . People just don’t shoot themselves in the foot without operating under a myth or illusion or faulty plan that they actually believed at the time .
Picture this : A couple is called and urged to refinance and use leverage to get things they want because real estate only goes up . They are urged by the loan agent to make their equity work for them because they can always sell and not pay capital gains in most cases ,or they can refinance . The couple goes for it thinking that the Lender wouldn’t make a faulty loan (yes people are that dumb ).
Also the couple is convinced that their equity should be used because its just sitting there doing nothing (never mind that it was all fake equity ) and they deserve the good things in life .
So,the couple that wasn’t planning to stay that long in the property anyway (3 to 5 more years )decides why not free up equity for whatever dream or purpose . The couple could be tempted to pay off bills or car loans or buy a investment property or a eventual retirement home or second home or put in a new kitchen they don’t need ,totally convinced that they will get the money back or that they are covered by values that only go up . With a toxic low teaser rate that won’t go up for 2 to 5 years ,the payments even looked manageable at the time . Flippers were convinced by a different sales pitch and buy now or be priced out forever was another myth that was used . The wealth affect created by the false market gave people the confidence to leverage thinking real estates every increasing values would cover their ass .
With the faulty lending and hit the mark appraisals the market
looked like a sure bet and the PR brainwashing machine was cheer-leading the false values . The people bought it hook line and
sinker ,in fact, it was a World -wide Mania which goes back to fraudulent lending and the fraudulent marketing of securities by you know who .
Also look at the people who were sucked in by not being required to have any skin in the game on their loan ,and they didn’t even have to qualify . Why wouldn’t these people go for it if it was offered by the Market Maker Money Changers .
This combination of teaser rate payments ,low down payments ,no doc loans (liar loans ),any credit rating is OK ,was just begging people to get in and it created a market that than had a life of its own apart from income and reality .
I’m saying that when you have Wall Street middle men throwing trillions of dollars on to the lending market ,without regard to
any lending standards with trick loans your going to get a totally fake mania market that disconnects from reality . Fraud always disconnects from reality .
Wall Street Lenders know what they did and the whole chain of professionals knows what they did ,and they even had the gull to try to short the mess they created when it started to crumble .
While it is true that borrowers got greedy or bought into the Ponzi Scheme ,or even committed fraud ,the issue become that the traditional role of the lender to underwrite loans and prevent fraud was breached ,as well as correctly rating the risks on securities that got them the money to lend in the first place . So fraud created more fraud which created more fraud and illusion that went into disconnect from wages and ability to pay the loan .
Yes the borrowers went crazy and greedy or fearful ,just as crazy as their enablers the Middle Men of Wall Street .
I think its important to note that people were use to a long history of a stable secondary market ,so
this illusion that the real estate values were solid would be a easy one for people to believe ,especially when the pros had all the answers to get them to play the leverage game . It’s to bad that borrowers didn’t reject the Ponzi-scheme, being sell to a greater fool because real estate only goes up, because that would of ended the fake boom market a lot earlier also .I don’t believe in giving any side of these real estate contracts a bail out .
+1
“She agreed, made all agreed upon payments and after the trial period, her loan mod was rejected.”
What was the basis for the rejection? Usually the trial payments are based on a reasonable percentage of current income. Are they saying that her income was not proven, too low, too high, or that the “investors” simply deemed it unworthy of a modification? If the loan is underwater, I do not see a long-term reason/way to stay there. You may buy yourself some time by requesting another application package and trial period. It seems silly, but often a rejected modification can be followed by another trial. But do not expect a different outcome.
Or is the child just upset that this will cut into his or her inheritance?
If the house was now worth 25% more and could be easily sold, would we be hearing these complaints?
Of course, get a lawyer and get all the handouts, modifications, tax forgiveness the law allows.
But don’t think that anyone directly involved with the deceased’s finances has clean hands here….
Did you father have any type of insurance that would pay the house off when he dies? Have you checked this possibility out?
Ok , I’m just going to say it . Your mother can’t afford to live there anymore and the bank has made a decision that they are not going to give her relief and there is no current government hand-out that is going to do it either .
This same situation just happened down the block from me where a 84 year old just passed away leaving his Widow without the means to stay in the house .
. Actually just before he died they were planning on selling and moving to cheaper living and their mortgage was at about the value of the house . The Widow called up the lender and told the lender her income had been cut down by the death and she moved out and gave the Bank the house and she moved to a cheap rent senior project at $ 550 a month rent . I guess the government does kick in on those projects ,much like section 8
housing .
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Thanks for all your comments. The house was purchased last year and the banks reason for rejecting the loan mod was as stated above “unacceptable to investors”. When asked to reconsider the second rejection rook less than 30 seconds. Why couldn;t they have rejected it outright the first time in the same time frame since they obviously have parameters available? I have decided to move in with her along with my wife and daughter to provide her daily care and help out financially. We will try to keep the house and bring the payments up to date, its just a difficult job market here and I need to get employed pretty quick to keep it going. Thanks for all your support and advice. I have read this blog since 2006 and learned a lot about things I didnt know about before. While I dont agree with a lot of opinions here, I respect the usually civil discourse with which they are discussed.
ED:
Details please how much is the mortgage and would she be better off renting?
You have a admirable plan for caring for your mom.. but is it a financially a good one? jobs are hard….look at the numbers….you could be throwing money away on a mortgage you will never get back in your lifetime…money that could be going to your daughter…
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We will try to keep the house and bring the payments up to date,
I hope it all works out for you ,your family ,and your mother .
Get a lawyer immediately. Common (basic) contract law states that if both parties faithfully adhere to the agreed upon trial periods, then the reminder of the contract cannot be nullified… no matter what.
In other words, she held up her end of the bargain. This type of bait and switch is illegal in most states.
But ecofeco ,aren’t they saying that some of these modifications are just trial modifications ? I suspect that one of the reasons for the trial modifications was to give time to run it buy the actual loan investors in the so-called trenches of CDO’s .
I mean I have been hearing about a lot of trial modifications that have been extended and some in spite of approval on the
modification for long term the borrower is re-defaulting .
My DH and I watched Vince Vaughn’s “Couples Retreat” last night, and after the credits, there’s a short scene with the following dialogue:
{ROMANTIC SONG PLAYING}
{PEEING}
You know,
the Federal Reserve
is a pimp.
They want you
to be in debt.
That’s how it works.
They give you
these credit cards
you can’t pay for,
HD, motorcycles.
it’s all a pimp game.
Oh, that feels good.
http://www.script-o-rama.com/movie_scripts/c/couples-retreat-script-transcript.html
Just thought that was funny!
I guess Ron Paul attended the premiere.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2009-10-07/ron-paul-attends-premiere-of-vince-vaughns-new-movie-couples-retreat/
I was talking to a legal Mexican immigrant last week, among things we discussed was the housing bubble. He told me he knew about 40 illegal immigrants who had bought houses in Port Saint Lucie Fl. during the boom for 300-400k no money down and had not made payments in years. Some had walked and some still live there for free. So I thought I would do quick search. Well.
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Banking on illegal immigrants
Banks are seeing an untapped resource in providing home loans to undocumented U.S. residents
August 8, 2005: 3:39 PM EDT
By Shaheen Pasha, CNN/Money staff writer
NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The banking industry is opening its doors to a controversial new market: illegal immigrants.
Despite heated political debate in Washington over illegal immigration in the United States, an increasing number of banks are seeing an untapped resource for growing their own revenue stream and contend that providing undocumented residents with mortgages will help revitalize local communities.
It’s a win-win situation, they say.
But skeptics worry about the message these home loans send to illegal immigrants: break our laws and we’ll reward you with a home.
“It’s institutionalizing illegality,” said Marti Dinerstein, president of Immigration Matters, a New York-based think tank. “Now there’s no distinction being made between the people that follow all the rules and those who break our laws by entering the country or overstaying their visas.”
Dinerstein also worried that lack of knowledge on the part of illegal immigrants could pave the way for abuse in the form of predatory lending.
But advocates of the practice say the benefits outweigh any potential downside.
According to the Center for Immigration Studies, one million illegal immigrants cross the U.S. borders every year. About 500,000 illegal immigrants lose that status every year either by getting legitimate green cards or returning to their native countries. That leaves a 500,000 annual net increase of illegal immigrants – a market that has unmet banking needs.
“This is a huge untapped market with people that live and work in this country and are capable of buying homes to realize the American dream,” said Chan Peterson, executive vice president and head of community banking at Banco Popular, one of the earliest banks to enter this field.
He added that there’s a common misperception that illegal immigrants will be more likely to default on their loans than a documented resident. But the company has found that there is no higher rate of default in this loan portfolio than any other market the company serves.
“There’s a pride that comes with people moving from renting to owning and we’ve found that these borrowers are driven to hang on to their homes,” Peterson said.
Jeff, that is beyond disgusting. Thanks for finding that little 2005 gem!
The bank collects fat fees on the loans, and then turns around and sells them to the fed so that the bank is off the hook when the borrower defaults. The bank turns a tidy profit off the transaction no matter what happens. It’s a win-win!
Which is exactly how we got into this mess.
Here is another issue that hasn’t been talked about a lot and that is that Lenders openly went after illegal immigration business .They gave illegals
big residential loans and allowed them to extract thousand and thousands of dollars by equity loans . I guess a illegal would be more likely to default
if he was deported or decided to go home ,so I wonder if Wall Street rated those loans AAA investment grade ,or maybe those were the ones they were shorting . There reached a point in the boom that they even made loans to dead people ,thats how fraudulent it got .
But anyway ,if you give illegals and cherry-pickers big loans ,aren’t you saying on some level that they are legal and part of America ?
I don’t know that Wall Street middlemen had a right to breach their duty to underwrite those loans either .
But this article really points out just how Wall Street looks at people
like untapped markets and potential debt slaves,never mind if they are illegal and might pose a loan risk . Wonder what the Lenders are going to do if they deport these borrowers and they get more foreclosures as a result if they haven’t already . I also wonder how much of that equity money went across the borders back to Mexico .
The boom and the meltdown just shows how all common sense went out the window .
“There’s a pride that comes with people moving from renting to owning and we’ve found that these borrowers are driven to hang on to their homes,” Peterson said.
I’m guessing the original thought was that illegal working families would double and triple up in the house thus ensuring the mortgage would be paid.
You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrades?
Australia proposes 40 percent tax on mining profits booming due to China, India demand ~ Sunday May 2, 2010, 7:18 am
CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australia would heavily tax the booming profits of its mining companies under a tax system overhaul proposed Sunday that also would invest in infrastructure to support mining operations and reduce corporate taxes.
The new 40 percent tax on resource profits targets industries that have grown rapidly as they’ve produced the raw materials that feed burgeoning Chinese and Indian manufacturing demand.
Mining royalties currently paid to Australian state governments do not reflect rising commodity prices. The government says mining profits rose by 80 billion Australian dollars ($74 billion) in the past decade, yet government revenues from resources increased by only AU$9 billion.
The government would introduce the so-called Resource Super Profits Tax in July 2012. The company tax rate would be cut from 30 percent to 29 percent in July 2013 and to 28 percent a year later.
Honolulu foreclosures soar 123% in Q1
Pacific Business News (Honolulu)
The number of Honolulu properties that received foreclosure notices soared 123.8 percent year over year in the first quarter of 2010.
There were foreclosure filings on 1,564 properties, or one in every 216 households, according to the latest survey by Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac Inc. The number of foreclosures jumped 14.8 percent from the previous quarter.
Honolulu ranked No. 110 for its foreclosure rate in the survey of 206 metropolitan markets in the United States.
Nationally, foreclosure filings grew 16 percent year over year to 932,234, or one in every 138 households. Filings were up 7.2 percent from the fourth quarter of 2009.
“It looks like Honolulu is playing catch-up with some of the other mainland metro areas that already have been hit hard by foreclosure,” said Daren Blomquist, RealtyTrac spokesman. “While the increase is pretty extreme the rate in Honolulu is still much lower than the foreclosure rates in some of the top foreclosure hot spots in the nation.”
Las Vegas reported the highest foreclosure rate with 28,480 properties receiving foreclosure filings in the quarter, or one in every 28 households. Utica, N.Y., posted the lowest foreclosure rate with 11 properties receiving foreclosure notices, or one in every 12,369 households.
It looks like at least one aspect of ‘Extend and Pretend’ is starting to break down. Lenders have been dithering for many months and in some cases a couple of years, hoping against hope that the market would recover and the mark-to-market on these non-performing loans would become more positive. Maybe now reality is setting in?
My bet is Extend & Pretend will endure for another six months, until after the elections in November. After that things should get very interesting.
The Administration, the Fed, Wall Street, and the Republicrats will all strive desperately to conceal and defer the true state of the US and global economies until after the election. The Feds printing presses will be creating trillions of digital dollars that the banksters can receive at zero percent interest and then loan back to Uncle Sam. But I don’t think they’ll be able to defer the crash that long. Too much toxic garbage has built up and is starting to implode.
I can see why they kicked the can down the road. After all, Canada is all bubbly again. They’re probably figuring that if the Canucks could do it, why not the US?
How much damage will this oil spill cost local residents? Everyday it gets worse……maybe its not such a bad idea to drill for oil on land
Every day as I drive to work in my midsize car, I’m surrounded by people driving Chevy Suburbans, Ford Expeditions, Hummers, and full-size pickup trucks. Maybe one in ten of them actually NEED a vehicle like that for work. I’d be all for slapping a gas guzzler tax on them. This isn’t just a matter of consumer choice; it’s a matter of national security. Our dependence on oil from places like the Middle East, Nigeria, and Venezuela is dangerous and our consumption is way out of hand. I would except people who have an actual need for such vehicles, like farmers and contractors. But Sally soccer mom and Joe cubicle farm dweller would get to pay through the nose.
“Maybe one in ten of them actually NEED a vehicle like that for work.”
And maybe the other 9 need one after work. Or like the safety of a big car/truck. Or have to drive on unpaved roads. Or drive through roads that are unplowed in the winter and need clearance. Or have to drive 4 kids to school every day. Or just plain do not want to drive a cramped econobox and like the comfort of an SUV.
I hate nothing more than having people tell me what I NEED, simply to satisfy their own personal beliefs. The worst of these people are vegans followed closely by environmentalists. Come to think of it, why do YOU NEED a car at all. Take the bus and save even more oil.
Another thing. I read so much moaning here about the lack of “real” jobs in the US. There is a segment of “real” jobs that would go away tomorrow is we got rid of SUVs/trucks. That’s the RV and boating industry. RVs are made in the US. Good high paying manufacturing jobs. Same with boats. Plus all the jobs in selling and maintenance. Unless I’ve not been keeping up with the latest technology, I doubt you can tow a boat with a Prius or Civic.
“And maybe the other 9 need one after work. Or like the safety of a big car/truck. Or have to drive on unpaved roads. Or drive through roads that are unplowed in the winter and need clearance. Or have to drive 4 kids to school every day. Or just plain do not want to drive a cramped econobox and like the comfort of an SUV.”
But if you don’t want to drive an econobox, surely you are willing to pay for what you want and perceive you need.
And most SUV drivers I’ve met don’t even seem to even know how to switch from 2wd to 4wd, much less safely drive off-road.
And if you’re truly worried about the safety of your children get a mini-van.
Just don’t come bitching to me when your broke from the massive car payment and gas at 10$ a gallon.
Just don’t come bitching to me when your broke from the massive car payment and gas at 10$ a gallon.
I have no car payment and gas at $10/gallon would cost me what, an extra few thousand a year?
Seriously…I’ll give up my choice of car when you willingly give up owning anything plastic and keeping your thermostat at 58 in winter and 84 in the summer. Or do you only think it’s fair to limit others’ decisions and not have your own controlled?
I agree. The problem is that the big 3 are utterly dependent on selling these behemoths to stay in business.
Oh well, just wait for gas to get back to $4-5 gallon and we’ll here these people whine how it costs $150 to fill the tank.
Of course, even at today’s prices it can cost close to $100 to fill the tank on a mongo truck. It pains me to pay $30 to fill my 4 cylinder’s tank, so it amazes me that people willing buy vehicles that get 1/3-1/2 the mpgs of my vehicle and like you I see them driving long commutes in these ugly guzzlers.
I guess these people haven’t maxed out their credit cards yet.
We don’t need all this plastic stuff, either. There’s something to be said for re-usable glass water bottles filled from a tap, less packaging, etc.
We don’t need all this plastic stuff, either.
Good point, palmy. People focus on gasoline usage, yet there are so many petroleum products that we buy every day.
How many people spend a little more to buy a metal or glass product rather than a plastic one?
I agree 100% with you Palmy.
I would buy an even smaller car if I could, but have to be mindful of my family’s protection when I share the road with idiots driving full-size pickups and SUVs. Especially the soccer moms gabbing on their cell phones.
Today I spent $40 fill the tank on my Honda.
The other day I followed an obnoxious truck. A “dually,” I guess they’re called. It was wide of course. I did not notice a hitch. What do they need that macho truck for? Parked next to me in the parking garage is a Chevy Silverado long bed. It has that Vortek or V-tech whatever engine.
I had a Silverado myself but sold it right away in 2003 when I moved to this part of L.A. I was warned about limited parking and figured a smaller car makes better sense. Now spending most of my years in large cities I don’t see any need for any SUV.
On the extreme side, try a family outing in an International Harvestor CXT series $120,000…
http://www.westruxca.com/new_vehicles/XT_series/cxt
Every day as I drive to work in my midsize car, I’m surrounded by people driving Chevy Suburbans, Ford Expeditions, Hummers, and full-size pickup trucks. Maybe one in ten of them actually NEED a vehicle like that for work.
Sammy, I know you’re a reasonable person, so I’m assuming you won’t look at people like me with scorn - driving a 10 year old vehicle (SUV) that gets 20mpg, rather than buying a new car that gets 30mpg. How much energy goes into building the new car, and disposing the old one?
When you look at the big picture, I’m doubtful (I’ve not seen figures - it would be interesting) that it’d be a net energy benefit to force vehicles like mine off the road prematurely.
I don’t look at every SUV owner with scorn. Many have a legitimate need for ground clearance, 4×4 and ability to traverse rough roads. I do wish more of my fellow Americans took personally responsibility for environmental stewardship and the ecosystem we live in. And stopped sending so many of our dollars to nations that hate us but sell us the oil we’re addicted to.
I agree, a pig tax is needed to get people to stop being so selfish and wasteful. If you dont like it, drive a Hyundai. Most people dont need a truck, keep a trailer instead or rent one as needed.
pig tax is needed to get people to stop being so selfish and wasteful ??
What about commercial commerce ??
“Every day as I drive to work in my midsize car, I’m surrounded by people driving Chevy Suburbans, Ford Expeditions, Hummers, and full-size pickup trucks. Maybe one in ten of them actually NEED a vehicle like that for work. I’d be all for slapping a gas guzzler tax on them.”
Misguided. Have you ever considered that some who drive large vehicles drive less than half the miles per year than others in the smaller vehicles? Taxes should be on fuel consumed, not vehicle choice.
Not only that, but many have a smaller car which gets driven more miles. My Miata gets 32 mpg easily, but it can’t handle the non-paved roads in much of rural Idaho. That’s what the F-150 is for, and with a 4.6l V8 even it gets 18-19 mpg. That’s no worse than many BMW or Mercedes sedans.
Agreed. An extra $1.00/gallon tax would go a long ways towards fixing a lot of problems. People would drive smaller cars, and live closer to work, all without forcing anything on anyone.
Allow commercial vehicles a tax credit against documented fuel costs.
Allow commercial vehicles a tax credit against documented fuel costs.
I’m reminded of the exemption for vehicles > 6000lbs from CAFE because surely nobody but business would buy them. I bet you end up with suburbs full of “commercial vehicles”.
Misguided. Have you ever considered that some who drive large vehicles drive less than half the miles per year than others in the smaller vehicles? Taxes should be on fuel consumed, not vehicle choice.
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Totally agree with this, Grizzly. My DH drives a truck, and he uses it for hauling stuff to/from work and for his hobbies. He drives fewer than 5,000 miles/year. I drive a minivan maybe 7,000 miles/year. Together, we drive the same number of miles as most single people do, even though we drive “bigger” vehicles. We also drive our cars into the ground.
Not sure people really understand the many variables involved in this.
In general you maybe right, but allow me to tell you my own story.
I recently bought a 2004 f250 (big ugly ford truck). It has a massive brush-guard, with heavy push bars and it’s 4 wheel drive. It seats 6, I’m the only one that rides in it. It gets about 12-14mpg. It’s the kind of truck a utility company would use.
I bought it because I’m too old and ill to shovel snow. Now I just stomp through it. I also bought it because I got tired of people trying to kill me.
The other day a woman, cell phone in hand cut me off. I let her hit me. The brush guard scraped all the way down the side of her shiny high mileage mini SUV. Her loss. Didn’t even scratch the paint on my truck. Had she been a little more agresive I’d have gladly pushed her into next week.
I drive very little, I figure the added gas cost is something like $20/month over my honda. How many months gas can I buy for what it cost to fix that mini SUV?
“I bought it because I’m too old and ill to shovel snow. Now I just stomp through it. I also bought it because I got tired of people trying to kill me.
Yeah…I know that feeling. I used to think that the mean people has a GPS tracking device on my little car. It gets really bad at Xmas time as I live not to far from a major mall, a post office and a main shopping drag.
I just bought a nice used car and I hope that the mean people(and they know who they are) spend many frustrating hours chasing my little old 2000 Buick Regal LS up and down the highway trying to hurt the guy that bought it.
Heck, I hope the guy that bought it is a disgruntled, out of work, ex-Blackwater Security guard with an underwater house and an major attitude problem.
After a plane crash we don’t consider banning flying.
Accidents will happen. If you drill on land, there is always the risk of a pipeline bursting.
We have a choice. Either we all bike everywhere and grow our own food, make our own clothes, build our own homes and go back to 18th century living. Or we accept the trade off that in order to live in a modern society, there will be incidents like this.
And no switching to and solar powered 18 wheerlers and 747s is not a viable option in the next 50 years.
“If you drill on land, there is always the risk of a pipeline bursting.”
Oh, please, you can’t compare the two. A burst pipeline on land can be contained so much more easily than a gushing well underwater. And generally speaking, a burst pipeline on land doesn’t deprive hundreds of thousands of people of income, or spread environmental damage on a massive basis, as is developing along the Gulf Coast.
BP, in order to save a few bucks and return a penny or two to their shareholders, failed to install a piece of equipment on the wellhead that could have prevented this. Now, they’re having to pay out so much more in mitigation, rescue efforts, compensation, etc. I predict this will bankrupt them. I hope it does.
Oil is far from the only energy answer. It just got there first and ever since has worked mightily to suppress other technologies. I don’t know why there always has to be a fight between business and ordinary citizens just living their lives. I live on Tampa Bay. I should be able to swim or fish or clam or oyster in clean water on the bay, while ships go in and out of port. The two CAN co-exist, but it seems to me that business and industry isn’t happy simply making profits, it has to both make profits AND take a sh*t on people at the same time, or it’s just not any fun.
Why do things have to be done badly? I don’t begrudge Wall Street, for example, its profits. But when it does so at my expense and inconvenience, that’s when I get pissed.
Anyway, my point, and I do have one, is that it is possible for business and industry to make a profit without acting harmfully to others. What a concept!
“Either we all bike everywhere ”
Actually, I recall reading that if we replaced all non work related trucks and SUVs with ordinary cars that we wouldn’t have to import oil.
Anyway, sooner or later $5/gallon gas will do that for us.
I just got off the phone with a friend. I was talking about our extended vacation in Europe. I told him that we could easily find pints of beer in a bar for under $2. He doesn’t drink so that didn’t matter to him. I loved it. He is a smoker. I told him that you could buy a pack of cigarettes in a bar for about $4. He thought that sounded good since even in Wisconsin they are now $7. I told him that gas was $6.50 a gallon. His 68 mile round-trip commute didn’t sound so good at that price.
So how big an engine does his pickup have? Does he have a “wimpy” small block V8 or is he a “real man” and his truck has either the large block V8 or a V10?
He thought that sounded good since even in Wisconsin they are now $7.
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Wow! I had no idea they were so expensive now.
Bring on the cost-benefit lawyers!
$500,000 ounce of prevention… verses… 2.5 BILLION+ pound of cure…
“KiKi Dee = eddie haskell’s girlfriend…but, but, but”
The rig was owned and operated by Zug, Switzerland-based Transocean Ltd (RIGN.S). British oil major BP Plc (BP.L) hired Transocean to drill the well, and oilfield services companies Halliburton Co (HAL.N) and Cameron International Corp (CAM.N) were also doing work on the rig.
Halliburton Inc. is watching things spew out in the new Corporate offices in Dubai
BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (fpss™)
I don’t see how anybody can gloat about this. Eleven workers lost their lives on the rig. The environmental and economic losses will be catastrophic. I’m no fan of Halliburton, but anyone who derives pleasure from this sort of disaster needs their head examined.
Not goating at all, simply retorting to KiKI Dee’s firing me a “entry level cost-benefit analyst…
False, choice, Ki. Think about what you’re saying.
Lmao…. Think about what *you* are saying. You’re asking a guy who repetitively blurts ideology because he *can’t* think.
it’s my right to drive whatever, blah blah. But there are plenty of people driving SUV’s and big rigs who don’t have kids or don’t do hauling. The big 4×4 silverado or f250 is the cadillaclarge barge of the era.
Image, image, image.
will this oil spill cost local residents?
It could be catastrophic for the Gulf…It could dwarf Katrina…Its going to take 3 months to drill a relief well…How that would impact the rest of us ??
Thieves, crooks and low life’s are every where, here in S.C. we have our own special breed.
Housing deal under scrutiny of FBI
The FBI and federal housing authorities are looking into whether the Columbia Housing Authority bought a house from a high-ranking city of Columbia official at an inflated price.
The sale could be a conflict of interest because of who was involved. The city official, Tony Lawton, 38, is the $108,492-a-year director of Columbia’s community development office, which directs hundreds of thousands of federal dollars each year to the Housing Authority.
The sale also might have run afoul of the law, if Lawton or Housing Authority officials knew the purchase price was inflated, allowing Lawton to make more money on the sale.
The documents show that, in deciding to buy Lawton’s house for $65,000, Walker disregarded a plea by three of his agency’s top-ranking officials.
The three wrote Walker a memo after an appraiser had just valued the house at $42,000 and agency officials had decided the house - north of Interstate 20, not far from the intersection of Fairfield and Crane Church roads - needed extensive repairs, about $35,450 worth.
“This house does not conform to our agency standard,” Housing Authority staffers Howard Thomas, Jethro Currie Jr. and Bill Turner wrote to Walker in a Nov. 13, 2008, memo. Turner is the agency’s planning administrator; Thomas, deputy director for housing management; and Currie, the capital improvements director. They are among the authority’s highest-paid officials.
“There are numerous houses on the market in excellent condition compared to this house,” they wrote. “Our money would be better spent on one of them.” They added that the house had only one bathroom, while the agency was looking for two-bath homes.
Read more: http://www.thestate.com/2010/05/02/1268947/housing-deal-under-scrutiny-of.html#ixzz0mm91DwpA
These guys are small time.
Multiply that by a million and spread it out all over the nation. Brother-in-law” deals are what’s really hurting most local governments.
The illegal alien mob in LA didn’t quite live up to the billing:
“Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck estimated that about 50,000 immigration rights activists participated in Saturday’s May Day rally, about half of what police estimated earlier.
Police had anticipated a larger crowd because of the controversy surrounding the recent passage of a tough immigration law in Arizona that allows police to check the legal status of people they believe are in the state illegally.”
Yep, the media really tried to blow it up big time, but the video I saw showed sort of little knots of people gathered here and there.
Loved seeing Louis Gutierrez get the cuffs.
I can’t believe the histrionics, the wailing, the hissy fits, the propaganda these people are engaging in.
I see one good thing coming out of this oil slick along the Gulf. We’re just not gonna have the $$ to support anchor babies, so I expect action to be taken there. More jobs will dry up, too. Not a good thing, but good to the extent that if it deprives illegals of any livelihood. Gotta sour the milk and detach their capacious mouths from the teat.
Palmetto,
Do you see the push on to make Puerto Rico the 51st state? The Democratic Party is salivating at the prospect of a massive expansion of its votes-for-entitlements constituency. Watch the Dems try to fast-track this through the system to secure a permanent lock on future elections.
Only one tiny problem with the Puerto Rico 51st state thingy….The Puerto Ricans don’t like us…They just want our money…
What was that little protest they had in the Capital Buiding …a few years back?
Truman assassination attempt
Assassination attempt on U.S. President Harry S Truman which occurred on November 1, 1950. It was perpetrated by nationalists, Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola, while the President resided at the Blair House.
U.S. Capitol shooting incident (1954)
Attack on March 1, 1954 by four Puerto Rican nationalists who shot automatic pistols from the Ladies’ Gallery (a balcony for visitors) of the House of Representatives chamber in the United States Capitol.
They just want a steak … and a baked potato!
Oh the Puerto Rico decided to remain as they are. Kind of semi-independent.
The extremists got their vote and it didn’t go for independence like they wanted.
I think we had Micronesia opt out a little while back. Still, they are dependent anyway.
Scotland also got a chance for a vote and also turned it down.
Had plenty of Puerto Rican friends back in HS. Had no idea about the status of the island.
I think the thinking of Cesar Chavez was correct with respect to illegals. Deport them. Our current strategy leads to the situation we are seeing today where all the Mexican’s here legally or illegally are likely to be held suspect. Not to mention the potential for abuse is ever present.
So… it’s time to show the illegals to the border.
Sammy, I have upper middle class Puerto Rican neighbors. Very nice folks, for the most part. They told me in no uncertain terms that the majority of Puerto Ricans don’t want statehood. Reason: they pretty much have all the benefits of statehood right now, without the liabilities.
Why mess up a good thing?
Yep….
cut ‘em loose!
What if Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid promise them bigger and better entitlements in exchange for pledging allegiance to the DNC?
Think you’re wrong on that one, Palmy. After Exxon Valdez, jobs poured in along with workers. People lived off the spill for years.
1980s pricing?
In the immediate wake of some significant sales at my building recently, another bombshell was dropped last week. A 1 bdrm unit was sold as part of an estate for $50,000. This level of pricing takes us back at least 20 years.
To provide context, just last week I posted that another 1 bdrm in the same tier just sold for ~$125,000 in a regular sale. That had already caused quite a stir. After all my neighbor is in that tier too, and she paid $215,000.
Observing this on the micro level so close to home is both fascinating and unsettling. I’m told that the mood of many of my neighbors has profoundly soured. Underwater doesn’t even begin to describe the situation.
Going forward it will be my priority to measure what level of impact these recent sales have on prices. While I have been trying to prepare for the worst, I am uncertain how the price action will play out. One would think that this will lead to a prolong stalemate at least - but maybe there are more weak hands out there than anyone realizes?
If it was part of an estate settlement, then an argument can be made that the transaction was not an “arm’s length transaction”.
I’d be interested to find out if there was an outstanding loan on the unit. I wonder if the unit conveyed to an heir for consideration equal to the outstanding loan balance. In other words, “okay, you can have grandma’s apartment, but you also have to pay off her mortgage balance of $50k…”
When I sold a condo back in 2007 I got a nasty letter left under my door from a neighbor demanding that I raise my asking price. They had just purchased a unit the year before for well over what I was asking. After a month I lowered the price again and finally sold for an even lower offer. I can only imagine their blood pressure.
I got a nasty letter left under my door from a neighbor demanding that I raise my asking price
What the…? How could someone think they have the right to do this? And so long as they’re planning on sticking around, your comp would serve to help lower their property taxes.
Man, people suck.
In Nevada, there are certain properties, mostly condos and some SFR’s in sketchy neighborhoods, which have sold for 1970’s prices. Granted the neighborhoods are rotten, but I do wonder how far up the food chain this will go. I have a real hard time believing that some properties can fall to 1970’s prices, but others have “bottomed” at 2004 prices.
what an understatement….i can imagine how many newly minted sketchy nabes have been created with 15%+ unemployment
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there are certain properties,sketchy neighborhoods,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/7663978/Radical-tax-on-debt-put-to-parties.html
A radical new plan for a tax on private debt has been submitted in the UK. Debts would be taxed at a rate of 1% which would discourage (in theory) households from accumulating excessive debt. Of course with the Bush-Obama War on Savers people are actively discouraged from saving money and cutting back on consumption - that’s un-American! Still, this is an interesting concept.
But then borrowers would need to borrow even more money to pay the taxes levied on their borrowing.
They tax you if you save (interest, dividends) and they tax you if you borrow. What a scam by the protection racket called government.
Walking back from the mailbox yesterday I read the “headline” on the latest AARP Bulletin- “New Health Care Law- What’s In It For You.”
In less than one lifetime we as a society have gone from, “Ask not what your country can do for you” to “What’s in it for you.”
My wife is headed to Europe to visit family, so she had to get her immunizations updated. Examining the computer records indicated two injections were needed, meningitis and tetanus. The visit to the clinic lasted 10-minutes. The bill arrived yesterday:
$208.60 (prescription drug, meningitis)
$48.00 (medical care, injection)
$101.60 (prescription drug, tetanus)
$25.60 (medical care, injection)
$147.00 (office visit)
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$530.80 Total
Nothing wrong with this picture, right?
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Gee, it’s May 02, and the weather is still poor; six or seven weeks of wind gusting to 30-mph, but hey, at least the snow is gone. The last decent road cycling weather (three days in a row) was early last October. I guess I’ll head to the office for a half-day; I have some programming to do that requires quiet time.
Seems excessive. Was any of it covered by insurance? Did she inquire about the cost beforehand or shop around at all?
Actually, yes, my insurance will cover about 70% of the invoice, but this is serious gouging, and I can’t see my insurance remaining affordable if this is the future of simple medical visits.
So again, it’s a pricing bubble. Had she been spending her own money, she could have shopped around and lowered the price dramatically. Aside from the cost of the medication, you’re paying about $220 for a service that should cost $20, tops (15 minutes of an RN’s time @ $80/hr). This is what happens when you’re dealing with OPM.
The 30% I pay is probably what it’s really worth, and my insurance policy will pay for the next two non-payers.
The visit to the clinic lasted 10-minutes.
Could’ve been worse…say 20 minutes.
Actually, she had to wait almost an hour despite having an appointment. More than half the peeps don’t have insurance, and rural obesity is extensive here. Not sure how to solve the problem though without getting medieval.
decent road cycling weather ??
I just rode yesterday for three hours…Shorts and a tee-shirt
Envy!
Can’t you get shots at the local drug store?
And since when do you need shots to “visit” Europe? I’ve never needed any.
Good question. However, I am not the interrogating kind of spouse despite being the sole breadwinner these days.
Regarding the shots-Just claim religious objection to the shots and it’s possible you won’t need them.
I have been doing that in my kid’s schools for years.
you must be in n. az.
The Census has been running ads saying if you don’t fill out the census you won’t be getting as much free govt stuff.
One of those fraudulent GOP fund raising solicitations arrived yesterday, deceptively labeled to look like a census form. Does anyone know how to file a formal complaint with the Post Office for scams like this? It shows how disreputable the Establishment Republicans have become.
Whats changed?
“TrueBeliever’s™ / “TrueDeceiver’s™” + “TruePurity™”
They courted the Evangelical’s, …they got’em…it has turn out to be sort of a shotgun marriage.
They courted the Evangelical’s, they got’em ?
+ 1 …Exactly
Remember when they were riding high after 9/11 with Bush (listening to a higher father) and Rove suggesting anyone not seeing it their way being “non-patriots”…??
Well, they made their bed now they can lay in it…They alienated 70% of the country with their Forced Dogma and have reduced themselves to a Palin Cult…They are only a “shell” of a republican party that I once knew…
Senator Scott Brown told all of them to “stay away” from his campaign in Mass…IMO, thats why he won…They are toxic…
If I am correct, Crist or the Dem will win the senate seat in Florida…I hope Crist wins it…
Hey…I filled out my census form and I’m waiting for my gov’t chopper full of free money.
…and waiting…
Still waiting here also.
Hi SFBAGal
I haven’t said “Hello” to you in a long time. I hope that everything is going well with you and yours.
The AARP are a bunch of greedy old people. When younger generations switch off their iPods and stop texting long enough to realize how badly they’ve been screwed by the Boomers, who left them massive debts and deferred messes, we could see a groundswell of support for euthanasia rather than bearing the crippling medicare/medicare/social security burdens these oldsters are imposing on a dwindling tax base.
I”m not condoning that, but I see it coming.
support for euthanasia ??
Sammy doesn’t like us Hwy…
Dang, I’ve been outted…
Peace, Love & Bobby Sherman was Mr.Cole’s Mom’s idea
AARP = “True2fer1er’s™” …Hey, where’s the BEEF!
2nd place:
AARP = “True2%Tipper’s™”
Your quotes, trademarks and smileys gave you away brother.
Memo to AARP:
Beware of Sammy, he may be armed and dangerous with sharp pointy objects filled with Joy Juice.
Just to clarify, I don’t support euthanasia as policy. Though personally, I’d rather go that route than endure months and years of agonizing pain or loss of dignity. My point is that today’s young people are too often being brought up in a moral vacuum. They are going to be bitter at the level of debt they’ve been saddled with, and they may be less than amenable to paying the soaring costs of eldercare if there’s a more “cost effective” solution. And since they’re coming of age in a corporate environment where brutal cost-cutting and “efficiency” is already the norm, the logical, amoral next step isn’t so inconceivable.
Again, I’m not advocating euthanasia by any means. I’m simply pointing out the reality that there might be some inter-generational resentments once the day of reckoning finally comes due. And most of the upcoming generation don’t seem to have the respect for life or their elders that was there in previous generations.
This boomer paid all his taxes owed and filled out all his tax forms to the most accurate as possible.
This boomer paid into social security.
This boomer did not produce more mouths to feed.
This boomer is debt free.
So why does Sammy blame people like this boomer?
Bill,
I referred to the AARP as an organization being “greedy old people.” Have you ever read their literature? It’s “gimme gimme gimme” and put it on the national credit card for the young’uns to pay for. That’s wrong.
My comments about the Boomer generation obviously don’t apply to every single member of that generation. I do happen to believe it was the most self-absorbed generation ever and they’ve piled up a lot of debt and problems for future generations. As with everything, there are a great many exceptions to that generalization. You being one of them.
Sammy ,how much of this mess do you pin on Wall Street, Bankers & Corporate America and the Globalism and monopolies that affected the long term structures in America that everybody was relying on . Did the Majority fail by not kicking the bums out of Congress years ago ?
Maybe you can correct me, but all age groups were buying this overpriced real estate and going into debt beyond their means .
Globalism is affecting the job base for young people as well as the wages because the private sector doesn’t have to give as much .The health care Monopolies are gouging people and I also don’t agree that the average family should be paying a quarter of their income for health care insurance.Baby Boomers bought into all the lies also . The baby boomers had a good job base
for many years ,but that is being taken away and the Companies are reneging on their pensions in a lot of cases or
bringing them down . The Unions made their contracts based on good times ,but the system was changing and undermining their ability to pay for these perks . The whole system is crashing from the weight of a change to the systems and structures ,not to mention the fake credit market that created a lot of loss .
Many baby boomers have been hosed by this downturn . Many have been fired and have no hopes of regaining their former positions .
Some have to retire a lot later and some have to retire earlier because they can’t get jobs now . Many retire people are getting their pensions cut ,and people on fixed income pensions are earning low rates like 1 %. What about all the Boomers that lost money in the stock market ,or took a big loss
on real estate ? It seems to me that the only ones that are coming out ahead of the game are the Wall Street Crowd ,the CEO’s and Corporate America and the monopolies and maybe some Unions . 63 year olds starting over again
are not the same as 30 year olds starting over again .
I know a few 50 year olds that got clobbered also . If your talking about the people who are about 70 and older ,part of that group are the people that fought World War 11 and went though the Great Depression . I think that group is making a lot lower yields on their fixed incomes . I don’t think the group that needs to use the health care system the most now ever dreamed that health costs would get this high . And prices are artificial on many levels . Prices aren’t being determined by free-market Capitalism or even regulated Capitalism .
I’m not saying that the Boomers weren’t a spoiled group in that they had a good job base ,but the question is where did the American good job base go ? Maybe it will be true that this
Society will not be able to afford health care for baby boomer
and that system will change also and only the rich will be able to get health care .
Amen, Wiz!
It’s not any particular age group that tossed everyone under the bus. IMHO, it the FIRE industries that raped and pillaged our country and are now looking for greener pastures in other countries.
Let’s stop fighting each other and go after the real crooks.
The boomers? It’s the “greatest generation” that is sucking up all the freebies. The boomers are just hitting retirement age, it’s the ones that have their fat pensions & benefits, SS, Medicare and didn’t have to save for anything (college or retirement) that are getting the free ride. PS: They have no place they have to be so they clog the roads mindlessly ambling along to their early bird specials.
When I was in my late 30s driving to / from work in Tucson, I was thinking there were a lot of retired people on the road jamming rush hour and they should just be out later, not earlier, so us workers can go.
But now I’m thinking I will be working into my 80s. I will probably be driving to work through my 70s and will be regarded as one of “them.” In my 80s and beyond I will use public transportation.
I will probably be driving to work through my 70s and will be regarded as one of “them.”
Just please go take an actual driving test and get your eyes and ears checked. For your own safety and that of those around you.
I still am shocked that most places don’t mandate tests for the elderly to renew their license.
I’ll be happy to have someone else drive me about, but I hope to be able to walk/ride to most places I want/need to go. I finished raising kids & now nanny two tween girls. Can’t wait ’til the older one can start driving. I remember I would run any errand for my folks if it involved getting in the car. Those girls will drive me around for years. And yes, they do need a nanny. Dad has custody and travels extensively for business. Mom not involved much. Those girls need what I know from already raising two outstanding women, the youngest of which will graduate college in two weeks, both of us debt free.
“But now I’m thinking I will be working into my 80s. I will probably be driving to work through my 70s and will be regarded as one of “them.” In my 80s and beyond I will use public transportation”
Get that cool BMW today Bill, tomorrow may be to late to enjoy it.
“I still am shocked that most places don’t mandate tests for the elderly to renew their license.”
My poor late Uncle Enzo was a perfect example of an elderly person who should have had their drivers license taken away. He was so dangerous it’s a wonder he did not kill anyone. He drove old, massive cars, too. I think one of his last was a ‘72 Chevy Caprice or something. Anyway, he was all over the road in that thing, cutting people off then shaking his fist when they honked, etc. On the few occasions I had to ride with him, the seat belt was the first thing I grabbed for. Hiding beneath the window to avoid embarrassment as his fist was gyrating was quite common for us kids.
…the youngest of which will graduate college in two weeks, both of us debt free.
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Woo-hoo! Congratulations, ATC!
Some of those “greatest generation” men and women were pretty remarkable although we may not recognize them or what they did now that all this time has past.
I know a lot of the “fortunate generation” and have many in my family. A great many of the American women were absolutely outstanding too considering the culture back then. Everyone had a job to do and they grit their teeth and did it.
One distant relative, a Merchant Marine, had two ships torpedo’d out from under him in the icy Atlantic. He had burns, bad head and neck injuries and while the surgeons put a steel plate in his head, the kid that saved him by putting his own life jacket on him, died from exposure and pneumonia due to fuel inhalation from trying to rescuce his other shipmates.
Both my brother and I were US Army jungle bunny paratroopers in Nam and in all honesty our tails would have been dragging, if we made it through at all, with those people of the “greatest generation” as you call them.
One of my uncles carries a lot of horrible scars and has many serious combat medals. He likes to use the term “fortunate generation” when he’s pushed into give a small speech for fellow veterans and their wives. He states that the “greatest generation” died in places like the beaches, in hedgerows, on remote island jungles and in shark infested waters.
He and his veteran buddies were fortunate to make it back alive to their homes, their wives and kids and be blessed for a chance to lead a good and productive lives. That, they owed, all to the “greatest generation” they sadly left behind.
I suppose that it’s like a lot of things…you had to be there.
I respect such men and women and it’s been my pleasure to join them or buy them their well-deserved “Early Bird Specials” whenever I had the time, chance and privilege. I enjoy having a cup of coffee, listening to them, catching a smile and looking into their eyes.
Those gentle smiles and the eyes of that wonderful “fortunate generation”, also speaks volumes too.
Say whatever you want to, I can’t stop you but the members of that “fortunate generation”, are some of the greatest people in the world according to mikey’s book.
I think you can find great people in every generation. Yes, some led remarkable lives, but most just lived life like most do. I just wish they would acknowledge that they also lucked out in some respects and stop whining about everyone else.
Well,if it will make anyone feel happier I got my pension cut and I know a number of friends that got cuts by 30% or more
My next door neighbors loss about 30% on their stock holdings .
Because of the loss to the older people ,there is a issue now about their ability to afford assisted living at some point in
time and if inflation take hold it changes the picture for fixed income people who thought they had provided for old age .
Rather than thinking that some generation is hosing another generation I’m thinking that everybody is getting hosed ,except the chosen people .
Very true Wizard.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a0uVT.A.qRA8&pos=5
Dubai markets tanking on weak real estate. I don’t understand. CNBC told us the Dubai World debt crisis was “contained.”
http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/border_disorder_rfy8ccTuYvAzNeDzP7qmsM
By RALPH PETERS
South of the border, down Mexico way, a new and savage revolution rages just beyond our inspection lanes. After less than five years of fighting, estimates of the dead have reached 22,000.
The rate of killing accelerates each month. And Washington covers its eyes like a kid at a scary movie. Well, the Mexican narco-insurgency, in which well-armed guerrilla forces confront the authority and presence of the state, is our No. 1 security challenge.
The chaos in northern Mexico has far deeper implications for our country than Islamist terror or even an Iranian nuclear capability (as grim as those threats are).
The rule of law has collapsed from Tijuana on the Pacific’s edge to Matamoros and the Gulf of Mexico. Major cities are now “ungoverned spaces,” as our diplomats refer tidily to distant trouble spots.
More people now die violently on our southern border than in Somalia, Yemen or even Afghanistan. But Washington doesn’t know what to do about Mexico. So Washington does nothing much.
Our ruling class simply doesn’t feel the pain. So the DC elite demonizes Arizona’s desperate effort to shove the narco-revolution’s disorder back across the border. Murdered ranchers, overwhelmed emergency rooms and soaring crime rates in our border states mean less to the White House than a terrorist detainee’s claims of abuse. Our governing elite pretends that illegal immigration, torrential crime where illegals cluster, overcrowded prisons, Mexico’s narco-insurgency, legal cross-border commerce and the drug trade are separate issues, to be addressed discreetly.
But these issues are all interwoven with the Mexican government’s existential crisis. Drug wealth fuels criminal empires. Those narco-empires are now so powerful that they’ve risen against the state. Human trafficking is a useful sideline for drug lords. And illegal immigration drives crime rates in bankruptcy-threatened US cities and states.
(Link to rest of article)
Supply will meet Demand. As long as there is a demand for dope there will be suppliers of the stuff.
IMO, the answer lies in attacking the demand side of the equation. Somehow the demand for drugs in this country has to be eliminated.
There is a zero tolerance policy for drug use where I work; If you are caught using drugs then you are fired. There is no decision to be made in this firing, the decision is imbedded in the zero tolerance policy.
Something similar has to happen in our society, a zero tolerance policy regarding drug use has to be enacted somehow. I don’t see any other solution.
I agree with the demand side of the equation. People who use illegal drugs bear a moral responsibility for supporting an evil, murderous industry.
People who use illegal drugs bear a moral responsibility for supporting an evil, murderous industry.
Two solutions to this one, then, both towards reducing the demand for illegal drugs:
1) find way to make people not want the currently illegal drugs
2) shorten the list of illegal drugs
I’d argue that #1 isn’t possible….
make all drugs legal OTC.
why not?
Yep.
The “War on Drugs” was bound to fail from its inception.
We need to legalize drugs in order to remove the power of these drug lords. After that, we need to **secure our borders** and enact draconian laws so that employers would lose everything if they get caught hiring illegals on more than two occasions.
I don’t know that hard drugs should be legal ,maybe the green
weed is one that could be .
“I agree with the demand side of the equation. People who use illegal drugs bear a moral responsibility for supporting an evil, murderous industry.”
And so do all of the employers and homeowners, etc. who use illegal alien labor. The drug cartels also engage in the trafficking of humans.
And so do all of the employers and homeowners, etc. who use illegal alien labor.
I don’t disagree, but was having a conversation on this the other day.
As a homeowner hiring someone to install tile in my house, I hire a guy who speaks good english and is licensed and bonded. Then he brings in his crew. I’m skeptical that all of his crew is legal - how do I go about verifying that? He’s under no obligation to furnish papers for all of his employees….
And you are willing to give up the freedoms required to do this?
Why not cease the joke of a war on drugs which creates this artificial scarcity that drives up the costs and gets bad people involved in the distribution… see the prohibition as an example.
I agree. legalize the use of drugs but allow companies to have their own drug use policies, such as zero-tolerance and random testing. Already millions of Americans already are subject to that.
Face it: Criminalization of drugs and prostitution is nothing about public safety but a lot about providing jobs to correctional officers, police, prosecuting attorneys, and so on. Conservatives are duped, particularly the blue-haired ones who vote for the candidates pushing for these laws. The result is a lot of violence, including deaths to cover up the criminality. Also corruption by cops being paid off to look the other way.
I’m just the opposite, I say legallize and tax and use the money to throw those who commit crimes on the stuff in jail for very long periods of time.
If you legalize it you take the criminal element out of the equation…You can still have laws governing its use just like Liquor…
NAH BAH combo it’s a scam your drug policy………1 coked up VP can steal 100 more then a guy on the loading docks…so do they randomly drug test your executives and fire them????????
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There is a zero tolerance policy for drug use where I work;
Where I work we go through extensive background testing. Somehow the boss, who is nearly 20 years younger than me, is getting away with his being an alcoholic, and I think the company is going to be punished by the client if the company continues to allow this to happen - word gets out. But people have already started distancing themselves from the boss lately.
I think a zero tolerance approach to drug usage is fair for those of us who are career-oriented and strive hard to maintain our professionalism and our jobs.
I am also in favor of strict DUI laws.
It’s time for people over 18 to become adults.
On the other hand, I’m for complete legalization of drugs. After all, It’s also legal for someone to buy rat poison and swallow it.
I’m for complete legalization of drugs ??
What about the jobs…Think about all the lost jobs !!
Bingo combotechie . Your point is what people don’t like to talk
about .The USA has a big demand for illegal drugs and at the same time people are acting like this isn’t the big cause behind the increase in crime being exported into this Country .
Again ,I think there is a difference between a illegal that comes here to find work or starve verses the criminal element . But it doesn’t change the fact that the issues are heating up now because of the
bad economy and the criminal problems gaining momentum . Its rather absurd when you hear illegals demanding their rights ,but
illegals have been conditioned to thinking that they have rights in America and many have been living here for over 20 years and the
emergency rooms are filled with illegals that receive Government benefits . I seriously doubt that Mexico would pay for the health care of a illegal American in Mexico . It’s saying that we really do accept you as a immigrant ,and that is why there are so many of them . Can’t blame them for trying to get out of their corrupt Country ,it was up to America to enforce our laws . It’s what a Country does that counts ,not what they say .
“There is a zero tolerance policy for drug use where I work; If you are caught using drugs then you are fired. There is no decision to be made in this firing, the decision is imbedded in the zero tolerance policy.”
Likewise where I work. In fact, my employer is required by federal law to immediately fire anybody who is caught. There is no recourse. We have had numerous people caught over the past few years; they all cry about getting lawyers, suing to get their jobs back, blah blah blah. None of them have gotten anywhere. I work in a company that deals with transportation, and after a few bad train wrecks, semi crashes, and the notorious Northwest Airlines drunk pilot incident the feds came down hard on transportation industries concerning drug use. Everybody is subject to random drug and alcohol testing, or testing on “reasonable suspicion”, with positive results resulting in immediate firing. As in the company security guards escort you out the front door minutes after the results come in.
Most people outside of Arizona does not read the headlines every day about LE being shot, home invasions (one of them in wealthy Paradise Valley), drop houses, truckloads of illegals on I-10, killings over smuggled aliens, dead bodies of dehydrated people who figure they could walk across the desert with just a couple of water bottles.
But Arizonans do.
And Arizonans don’t care what the politicians and the movie stars and pop stars such as Shakira think. Bring on the boycott. The illegals will swarm more into California and hasten its demise.
illegals will swarm more into California ??
And Texas…
Stop , California doesn’t want the problems either ,don’t we also have our fair share of illegals and crimes as a result of the criminal element The Hollywood jet set would engage in drug use and at the same time not see that their demand for drugs might be related to the problems of crimes by the Mexican Drug Cartel . People never like to connect the dots . What about all the industry that wanted the cheap labor from across the borders ?
Lets face it ,the group of Politicians that have been leading this Country for a couple of decades now have a different agenda than
doing what is in the best interest of the Country . Throw all the bums
out . The Majority has been acceptant of our Government Body that is nothing but smoke and mirrors, that are bought off by one special interest group or another .
Irrational NON-exuberance.
“…It was a night when people who once moved markets could be overlooked.”
“Look at Alan Greenspan,” said Oliver Stone, nodding toward the former Fed chairman. “No one is talking to him.”
nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/05/02/
Paradigms sure are shifting any more these days: “Brother, could you paradigm? How about you, gramps?”
WHERE AMERICA LIVES
Happiness Is a Full House
by Lynn Schnurnberger
published: 05/02/2010
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It Takes a Village
Multigenerational living is on the rise. A recent AARP study found that 6.6 million U.S. households had at least three generations of family members in 2009—a whopping 30% increase since the 2000 census. More than a third of Coldwell Banker real-estate agents recently reported an uptick in buyers looking for homes to accommodate multiple generations, and 70% expect to see even greater demand in the year ahead.
The trend is fueled in part by the economy, with “baby boomerang” kids returning to the nest after college, along with 30- and 40-somethings who have lost their jobs or homes or both. But Andrew Cherlin, a professor of sociology and public policy at Johns Hopkins University, sees an upside. “Parents and grandparents are like the National Guard—they’re called up to active duty when there’s a crisis,” he says. “But while families may be moving in together to save money, they’re discovering the advantages of shared child- and elder-care and an enriched family life.”
In fact, the idea of the nuclear family—mom, dad, and kids living together in isolation—is only about 50 years old. “In the coming decade, Americans will understand that our love of independence is kind of silly,” predicts John Graham, an international-business professor at the University of California, Irvine, and the co-author of Together Again. Of the 6.7 billion people on the planet, he notes, about 6 billion live in extended-family arrangements. “Talking to Grandma on the phone is one thing,” Graham says. “But to be with her smelling the cookies she’s baking is even better for everyone’s psyche.”
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Multigenerational living frees up money for spending. Households that consolidate have only one mortgage to pay on rather than the two or three before consolidation. This freed up money goes into the economy and acts to keep the economy humming.
But this consolidation increases the number of vacant houses which in turn puts downward pressure on RE prices and on rents.
This sounds like a wash, but I don’t think it is.
We FINALLY found a use for McMansions……
Multigenerational living
“In the coming decade, Americans will understand that our love of independence is kind of silly…”
Let me rewrite that.
“In the coming decade, Americans’ ever-declining standard of living will require more and more multi-generational families living together as it’s the only way they’ll all be able to keep a roof over their heads.”
Maybe it’s must my guess, but a lot of dysfunctionality has appeared in families since the “anything goes” 1960s. One guy’s sister became a prostitute. Probably on meth. Maybe someone has a sex offender in their family. Or an alcoholic. One guy (an LDS) disowned his daughter for getting pregnant outside of marriage.
Or maybe dysfunctionality has been reported more?
If families multi-generations together it won’t be blissful like on the Waltons. Expect the embers of dysfunctionality to be stirred.
it won’t be blissful like on the Waltons
Was it ever?
“it won’t be blissful like on the Waltons
Was it ever?”
Nope, they kept talking all night, I saw that TV commercial.
At least multi-generational housing finally creates a reasonable use for our McMansions.
While necessity might make multi-generational living conditions
come about , I think some people would find it extremely difficult to live with their kids ,or their kids would find it difficult to live with their parents or Grandma.
I remember when I was at the hospital I overheard a young women on the telephone crying to someone on the other line because the
hospital wanted her to take her Granny home and take care of her . She was telling the other person on the line that she just couldn’t do it because she had children to take care of and she was beside herself .
Apparently the insurance had run out and this family could not afford assisted living anymore ,but the women that would be responsible for the care knew it would crack her . I have seen the
hospitals release people who really needed assisted living to the family that has no ability to take care of a person in that condition and also work and also raise children .
But than you take the case of a neighbor of mine who is a 87 year old guy who took care of a bed-ridden wife for 7 years ( until her death a couple of months ago ) who couldn’t afford assisted living . He went to a school to learn how to take care of his wife( things like moving a dead weight person in bed ) and he cooked for her and everything . I know some women who took care of their husbands for years before their death because they couldn’t afford assisted living . These caretakers became like nurses ,this gal Fran I know comes to mind .
In many cultures it is expected that the younger generations take care of the older in their old age ,but this Society has not be conditioned to do that .
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/greece-a-new-age-of-austerity-and-anger-dawns-1960388.html
A few days ago, there seemed to be questions over Germany’s sizeable contribution to the bailout, but these have now been resolved. It emerged yesterday that Germany, which had shown great reluctance to help fund a Greek bailout in the face of public opposition, was put under massive pressure to change its mind at a G7 summit in Washington last weekend. Timothy Geithner, the US Treasury Secretary, was said to have told his German opposite number, Finance State Secretary Jörg Asmussen: “The Greek problem needs to be dealt with before the crisis spreads to other countries. As the leading economic power, this is Germany’s job.” The “problems” were resolved.
This clears up the question of who German officials answer to - and it isn’t their own taxpayers or voters.
Turbo Tax Timmy Talks Tough To Teutons
Merkel Says She Was Right on Greece, Winning ‘Unthinkable’ Cuts
By Rainer Buergin
May 2 (Bloomberg) — German Chancellor Angela Merkel said she was right to demand International Monetary Fund involvement in the Greek bailout over the objections of her European peers, saying it resulted in previously “unthinkable” budget cuts by Greece.
“This is an ambitious program which contains tough savings measures and on the other hand seeks to improve the efficiency of the Greek economy,” Merkel told reporters in Bonn today. “Three months ago it would have been unthinkable that Greece would accept such tough conditions.”
Merkel was speaking after the Greek government accepted budget cuts worth 30 billion euros ($40 billion), or 13 percent of domestic product, as the terms for a bailout of more than 100 billion euros from the European Union and IMF to prevent default. Euro-group finance ministers are meeting in Brussels to agree on the exact bailout amount.
Merkel said she’ll convene a special meeting of her Cabinet in Berlin tomorrow to discuss Germany’s share of the aid package, and will push for parliament to approve the aid by May 7. Germany, as the biggest contributor, will offer Greece loans of 8.4 billion euros for the first year of the program, followed by amounts yet to be specified for the subsequent two years, according to a draft circulated to lawmakers last week.
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This Merkel cow is either delusional or (more likely) her globalist masters have assured her a very comfortable retirement and perks for selling out German taxpayers. Germany has state elections on May 9th. I’m guessing Merkel’s party gets routed and their candidates egged wherever they show their faces. Germans aren’t like Italians or Greeks - when they get angry it’s a cold fury, and they don’t forgive and don’t forget.
Bailouts make the world keep spinning any more.
IMF to meet to decide size of bailout for Greece
By Derek Gatopoulos
updated 32 minutes ago
ATHENS, Greece - The International Monetary Fund’s executive board is to meet in Washington Sunday to consider how much aid to grant Athens under a massive rescue loan package, a senior IMF official said.
The meeting coincides with emergency talks in Brussels among eurozone finance ministers.
The IMF’s Poul Thomsen told reporters in Athens it would take at least a week for Greece to start receiving funds.
“Here we are with a program that is truly extraordinary in terms of the adjustment that it envisages, and is equally extraordinary in terms of the support that it will it triggered from the international community — you will see the numbers tonight. We are talking about big money,” Thomsen said.
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Just remember, U.S. taxpayers contribute about a third of the IMF’s budget. Don’t you feel a warm glow for bailing out the profligate Greeks?!
Probably the most stunning revelation in this article:
The average age of retirement in Greece is 53
http://www.groenewegenreport.com/?p=287
The economy is not recovering and will not recover.
In our point of view there are three factors why the US economy is not improving and will not improve:
1.) The U6, the broadest unemployment measurement, is 16-17% and the capacity utilization of the workforce is 70%; some 70% of US GDP stems from consumer spending though consumers without jobs don’t spend;
2.) House price declines are being temporarily stalled because of the $1.25trn mortgage buy-back program of the Government (although February existing and new home sales were about the worst ever) which will end in March 2010 and is keeping mortgage rates artificially low. Cost of building a house is higher than prices of repossessed houses. Banks are not cooperating in modificating mortgages (only 168,000 mortgages, out of 11.3m that have negative equity (in total there are 47m mortgages), have been modified of which 50% will default again) in other words the ripple effect of lower housing prices will continue. The banks are estimated to keep some 7m+ repossessed houses on their books in the hope that the market will recover. Lastly between 2010 and 2014 $1.4trn in commercial real estate has to be refinanced and with price declines of 40% since 2007, nearly 50% is showing negative equity which again the banks are not very willing to refinance;
3.) The enormous private and public debt levels which are increasing at stellar speed with budget deficits also increasing. Deficit/GDP ratios are increasing to new danger levels. According to a Barclay’s study studying 6 developed nations over the last 20-30 years, they found that a 1% change in deficit/GDP caused a 32 bps increase in 10 year rates. Based on this, we are due for a substantial rise in global rates.
Credit represents the use of future income to fund current expenditure. Going forward we will pay dearly for our irresponsible behavior. We believe that if investors really understood what is happening in the markets, long-term rates would be at 10-15%. Not because of inflation, there is no inflation in the West, contrary to China, but because of the crowding out with respect to loan demand.
Is anyone up for a game of Russian debt roulette?
Debt roulette: Is Portugal next?
By Dody Tsiantar, contributor
April 30, 2010: 1:36 PM ET
(Fortune) — As Greece barreled closer to the edge of a debt default this week, fears that the crisis would infect other countries rattled the world’s financial markets. “It’s not a question of the danger of contagion,” Angel Gurria, the head of the Organization for Economic Cooperation, said. “Contagion has already happened. This is like Ebola.”
If Gurria is right, who’s next? Many analysts and economists point to Portugal, the European Union’s poorest country, with Spain following close behind. “There is a very high likelihood that Portugal will be the next one to run into trouble,” says Nariman Behravesh, chief economist for IHS Global Insight.
That’s especially true if the 16 euro-zone countries get their act together and deliver a 45-billion euro bailout package to Greece as promised, a scenario similar to what happened to Bear Stearns in the banking crisis. Then Portugal may end up being the first to default. Jonathan Loynes, chief European economist of macroeconomic research firm Capital Economics, agrees with Behravesh: “Portugal is on the list, just behind Greece,” he says.
Indeed, Portugal got the financial equivalent of a negative diagnosis this week when Standard & Poor’s downgraded its debt on the same day the ratings agency slapped Greece’s government bonds with junk bond status. Spain’s warning came 24 hours later.
Markets responded by sending the yields on Portugal’s 2-year bonds to over 5%. The spread between German and Portuguese bonds also hit new highs, as did the price of its credit default swaps, a kind of insurance that investors take out to protect against default.
CMA DataVision, a London-based research firm that tracks the riskiness of sovereign debt, rated Portugal’s performance through the first quarter to be the worst in the developed world. The spread between the starting price of swaps in January and the end price in March widened to 52.3%, according to analyst Simon Mott. “That’s like what would happen if you’re a risky driver, you’d pay much more to insure your car than if you were a safe driver,” he says.
A familiar scenario
“The signals now being sent to Portugal are the same ones that were sent to Greece,” says economist Michael Arghyrou of the Cardill Business School.
Portugal, in many ways, mirrors Greece’s problems. Like its suffering Euro-partner, Portugal has weak public finances — its budget deficit rose to over 9% last year, six percentage points higher than the standards stipulated by the European Union. And its debt equals about 80%; Greece’s hovers around 115%.
But Portugal’s deeper problem is its slow growth rate over the last decade, according to Columbia University economics professor Ricardo Reis. Last year, Portugal’s gross domestic product was in the red, declining by 0.1%, this year it’s forecast to slow down even further, by 3.3%. To deal with slow growth, borrowing from foreign investors became Portugal’s lifeline — and that’s at the core of its trouble.
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The dark cloud surrounding every crisis always has a silver lining.
WSJ Blogs
Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
* April 29, 2010, 9:47 AM ET
Mortgage Rates Stay Flat, Thanks to Greece
By Nick Timiraos
Mortgage rates stayed flat last week, rising just slightly to 5.08% from 5.04% one week earlier, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association. So far, the big rise in rates that some had expected when the Federal Reserve ended its mortgage-backed securities purchase program last month hasn’t materialized.
In fact, the instability in Europe amid looming debt woes for Greece and Portugal on Tuesday sent investors looking for safer assets such as the 10-year Treasury, to which fixed-rate mortgages are closely tied. That has helped to keep rates down.
Still, intra-day rates have grown more volatile, says Dan Green, a Cincinnati mortgage broker. When the Fed was the main mortgage buyer, banks would send out rate sheets (effectively changing their pricing) around 10 times a week he says. Now, that’s happening about 20 times a week. “It’s been exceedingly challenging to pin down rates because they move so rapidly,” he says.
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“It’s not a question of the danger of contagion,” Angel Gurria, the head of the Organization for Economic Cooperation, said. “Contagion has already happened. This is like Ebola.”
Or maybe like trying to get everyone to wear condoms to prevent AIDS, when they already all have HIV and just haven’t started showing symptoms yet.
Does anyone have a handle on how many ‘low-to-moderate income’ Californians live in homes with $730,000 mortgages?
On the face of it, that number seems patently absurd.
WSJ Blogs
Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
* April 29, 2010, 12:43 PM ET
California Proposes Principal Write-Downs for Homeowners
By Nick Timiraos
California housing officials would use $700 million in federal housing aid to match loan balance reductions offered by lenders and to subsidize mortgage payments for some delinquent and unemployed borrowers.
The proposal is part of the Obama administration’s effort to help the “hardest hit” states devise specific strategies to address the shortcomings of federal efforts to avoid foreclosures. California received the largest grant out of $2.1 billion that will be awarded to 10 states.
The first round of five states submitted their proposals two weeks ago to the Treasury Department, which is administering the funds under the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP. The Treasury will approve or reject the proposals by the end of May.
California’s proposal would limit aid to low-to-moderate income borrowers and those with loans of less than $730,000. The initiative offers homeowners up to $50,000 in assistance through four different programs:
* Principal write-downs for underwater borrowers, or those that owe more than their properties are worth. Lenders would be required to match write-downs on a dollar-for-dollar basis and loan balances would be reduced over three years. Borrowers would have to prove that they faced hardship and that they could afford modified loan payments after a write-down. The California Housing Finance Agency estimates that around 5,500 households would be able to participate. (Around $427 million would be used for this program.)
* Up to $15,000 for borrowers who are able to make their mortgage payments but who had temporarily fallen behind on their payments and are facing foreclosure as a result of late payments. The state would spend around $130 million on that program, and officials estimate that it could reach 17,000 borrowers.
* Subsidize mortgage payments for borrowers who are temporarily unemployed and therefore unable to make their mortgage payments. Funds would be limited 50% of monthly mortgage payments up to $1,500 and would be provided for up to six months. The state estimates that around 9,000 borrowers would be eligible for that program. Some $65 million would fund this effort.
* Provide up to $5,000 in relocation assistance to homeowners who hand in their keys voluntarily under a “deed-in-lieu” of foreclosure or a short sale, where a home is sold for less than the amount due. Officials estimate that around 6,500 borrowers could participate at a cost of around $33 million.
The state has also proposed setting aside $20 million to create a “local innovation fund” that would allow local governments and housing counselors to develop additional programs to alleviate the housing bust. The state expects to spend around $23 million in start-up and administrative costs on the programs.
The housing aid proposal comes on the heels of California’s offer of a $10,000 state tax credit for buyers of new homes or for first-time home buyers for purchases that close on or after May 1.
How can California claim that they’re broke tax me and my business more while at the same time writing checks to deadbeats?
Perhaps if the Fed worked a bit harder at its stated goal of increasing transparency in the banking system, we could finally settle this misnamed ‘debate’ on the number of foreclosure homes that are soon to hit the supply side of the U.S. residential real estate market.
The U.S. housing market would operate far more efficiently were it not for the ever present hobgoblin of foreclosure inventory uncertainty. Perhaps the GSE affordability mission could even be finally accomplished.
WSJ Blogs
Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
* April 28, 2010, 5:31 PM ET
Debate Rages Over Supply of Foreclosed Homes
By James R. Hagerty
Why is there such a fierce debate about whether the housing market is slowly healing or heading for another free fall? Partly because no one can estimate with much confidence how many foreclosed homes banks need to sell or how fast they are getting rid of all that property.
A huge chunk of today’s housing supply comes from homes that have been acquired by banks or mortgage investors through foreclosure, plus those that are being offered by people who hope to avoid foreclosure by doing “short sales,” selling their homes for less than the mortgage balance due. The National Association of Realtors estimates that such “distressed” situations accounted for 35% of home sales in February and March. (See Foreclosure Estimate Falls.)
The latest heroic attempt to tally how many foreclosed homes are available for sale comes from analysts at Barclays Capital in New York. They estimate that banks and mortgage investors including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac owned 480,000 homes at the end of February. That’s far lower than previous estimates. Barclays explains that it has acquired more data on mortgages and refined its methods for analyzing foreclosure trends. Under the bank’s previous methods, the estimate for February would have been more than 600,000.
Estimating the inventory of foreclosed homes is tricky because thousands of banks and others that own the properties disclose those holdings in varying ways, if at all. RealtyTrac Inc., another data provider and one of the few other firms that regularly makes such calculations, estimates that banks and mortgage investors own 758,000 foreclosed homes.
So we have a pretty big gap. Is it 480,000 as Barclays thinks, or 758,000, as per RealtyTrac? Tom Lawler, an independent housing economist who tracks reams of housing data when he isn’t tending the livestock on his farm near Leesburg, Va., figures the total is more than 550,000 but probably less than the RealtyTrac estimate.
“What is truly disturbing,” Mr. Lawler wrote in his daily housing-market commentary Wednesday, “is that given all of the economic data the government tracks, the sector it appears to track the worst is…the housing market! Why is it that the government has not deployed more resources to better track and report data on the housing inventory, households, home sales, home prices, and, of course, foreclosures and the number of homeowners who have lost their home to foreclosure?”
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This article gets straight to the reason America needs a financial consumer protection agency. And I don’t mean a fox-in-the-chicken-coop consumer protection department buried inside the Fed’s wall of pro-banking-industry stealth, either.
WSJ Blogs
Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
* April 29, 2010, 2:39 PM ET
Why Americans Get Ripped Off on Mortgage Loans
By James R. Hagerty
You might think that Americans would have learned over the past few years that home mortgages can be dangerous products, to be approached warily, only after careful study and consideration. You would be wrong.
Americans spend twice as much time shopping for cars than they do for home loans, Zillow.com reported Thursday. An online survey of 2,729 adults commissioned by Zillow found that on average they spent five hours choosing a mortgage, compared with 10 hours for a car and four hours for a computer. Nearly a third of the respondents devoted two hours or less to choosing a mortgage.
“Mortgages continue to be something that most people don’t want to spend time thinking about,” said Stan Humphries, chief economist for Zillow, a real estate information firm.
Of course, only an economist could find that even faintly surprising. Most people find it fun to look at shiny new cars and take them for test drives. Vroom, vroom! Reading through the fine print of loan contracts and trying to figure out what would be a fair price for title insurance and an appraisal–well, slightly less diverting.
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This article gets straight to the reason America needs a financial consumer protection agency.
Why not an agency to keep people from getting ripped off on car purchases?
And I don’t mean a fox-in-the-chicken-coop consumer protection department buried inside the Fed’s wall of pro-banking-industry stealth, either.
How are you going to arrange that? Are you volunteering to run this operation?
And what about an agency to make sure assets are fairly distributed in divorces? Don’t a lot of people get screwed over by their former spouses in divorce proceedings?
WSJ Blogs
Developments
Real estate news and analysis from The Wall Street Journal
* April 30, 2010, 10:11 AM ET
More Homeowners Consider Strategic Defaults
From the Wall Street Journal’s Real Time Economics blog:
By Sudeep Reddy
More homeowners are willing to walk away from their homes voluntarily, according to new research released by the University of Chicago and Northwestern University. About 31% of foreclosures in March were considered “strategic defaults,” in which homeowners walk away when the value of a mortgage exceeds the house value — even if they can afford the mortgage. That’s up from 22% in March 2009.
One likely cause: About 56% of borrowers still believed lenders wouldn’t go after them for walking away from a home, up slightly from 54% a year earlier, according to the study that was based on surveys of more than 1,000 people in March. “With more and more homeowners believing that lenders are failing to pursue those who default on their mortgages, there is a risk that a growing number of homeowners will walk away from their homes even if they can afford monthly payments,” said Paola Sapienza, a finance professor at Northwestern’s Kellogg School of Management who conducted the study with Luigi Zingales, a professor at the University of Chicago’s Booth School of Business. The latest research was released late Thursday with the two universities’ Financial Trust Index, which tracks public trust in the financial system.
Old John Stossel on healthcare.
abcnews go com/video/playerIndex?id=8227482
Let’s not lose sight of Gollum’s role in planting the seeds for the Greek debt crisis.
Bloomberg
Greece’s Goldman Sachs Swaps Spawn EU Dispute on Disclosure
February 15, 2010, 11:47 PM EST
By Elisa Martinuzzi and Gavin Finch
Feb. 16 (Bloomberg) — A dispute is unfolding about how long European Union officials have known that Greece used derivatives to conceal its growing budget deficit.
Greece turned to Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in 2002, just after adopting the euro, to get $1 billion in funding through a swap on $10 billion of debt, Christoforos Sardelis, head of Greece’s Public Debt Management Agency at the time, said in an interview last week. Eurostat, the EU’s statistics office, was aware of the plan, he said. Risk Magazine also reported on the swap in July 2003.
“Eurostat was not until recently aware of this alleged currency swap transaction made by Greece,” spokesman Johan Wullt said by e-mail yesterday.
The disagreement about who knew what and when comes amid the worst crisis in the euro’s 11-year history. The existence of the swaps, which allowed Greece to delay payments and shrink its reported budget deficit, is fueling questions about whether Greece used the contracts to mask the fact it was struggling to comply with the currency’s membership criteria from the early days of its entry into the eurozone.
“Greece falsified deficit statistics, and that can’t be legal,” said Wolfgang Gerke, president of the Bavarian Center of Finance in Munich and honorary professor at the European School of Business. “Greece needs to be kicked out of the EU because otherwise there will be new copycats, and that could lead to the next catastrophe on financial markets.”
EU regulators pressed Greece yesterday to disclose details of currency swaps after an inquiry by the country’s finance ministry uncovered a series of agreements with banks that it may have used to conceal mounting debt.
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Goldman Sachs seems to have their hand in everything that seems to blow up and ends up being not what it appeared to be . I’m sick of these bIg firms riding off their reputations before de-regulation . Whatever these TBTF were before ,they turned into crooks .
Well off to Santa Cruz for a few hours. It is just beautiful here in San Mateo County.
Everyone take care and enjoy the rest of your day.
I’m missing the case for the stock market correction for three reasons:
1) The Fed said it will keep interest rates low pretty much forever;
2) The market behaves as though it is artificially propped up by stealth intervention;
3) The stock market always goes up, in the long run.
Nick Godt’s Market Medics
May 2, 2010, 12:01 a.m. EDT
Stock correction in bears’ crosshairs
Commentary: The case is getting stronger; guru Dorsey sees correction
By Nick Godt, MarketWatch
NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — Alain de Botton, a British philosopher and author of best-selling books such as the “Art of Travel” and the “Consolations of Philosophy,” has recently been asking this question: Is success always earned? Is failure?
Similar questions undoubtedly went through the minds of some investors over the past week as Greece edged closer still to default on its debt while Goldman Sachs Inc.’s (GS 145.20, -15.04, -9.39%) troubles with the law got worse.
But markets don’t stay philosophical for too long. On Friday, as Goldman shares plunged another 9%, the Dow Jones Industrial Average (INDU 11,009, -158.71, -1.42%) slumped 158 points to 11,008.
Both the Dow and the S&P 500 index (SPX 1,187, -20.10, -1.67%) saw to their worst weekly drop since late January, while the Nasdaq Composite (COMP 2,461, -50.73, -2.02%) fell the hardest, losing 2.7% for the week.
It was because of an unregulated and gigantic financial world that the financial crisis spread, and only through massive global government interventions that a recovery was engineered.
But notions of success and failure aren’t the same with unemployment at 10% in the U.S. and growth seriously threatened in Europe.
Paul Mendelsohn, chief investment strategist at Windham Financial Services, notes that both Greece and Goldman serve to reinforce a mistrust of governments and currencies.
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4) With the continuing economic recovery will come job growth and a return of individual investors to the U.S. stock market.
5) Higher inflation, which looks like the only way out from under a massive overhang of debt, makes stock a relatively attractive investment choice compared to, say, cash.
6) The recovery will also result in rising corporate earnings, providing fundamental support to higher share prices.
Chuck Jaffe
May 2, 2010, 12:01 p.m. EDT
A death sentence for your retirement savings
Commentary: Paralysis is not a workable investment strategy
By Chuck Jaffe, MarketWatch
BOSTON (MarketWatch) — Jennifer W. is a single woman in her late 40s who is worried about her investment future and puzzled by her investment past.
Like many people her age, she has been encouraged to save as much as possible through individual retirement accounts and 401(k) plans in order to grow her retirement nest egg. She started doing that as early as she could, with as much money as she had.
Along the way, however, there were kids, a divorce, job loss and change. Couple some financial setbacks with 10 years of market volatility that has mostly resulted in flat-line long-term results, and Jennifer’s mutual fund accounts look better than when she started, but not great.
“I would have thought that by now I’d be a lot farther along toward retirement,” she wrote in an email. “I hate debt, so I try not to have any, and I don’t mind saving, but I do mind struggling and having accounts that don’t seem to be going anywhere.
“I’m not comfortable with mutual funds now,” she added, “but I know so little about stocks that I would probably do worse on my own.”
Her response to these problems? She’s not going to contribute to the company retirement plan this year — her employer does kick in a small amount on behalf of all employees — and she’s not funding an individual retirement account.
Indeed, many people like Jennifer have become completely frozen by disappointment and circumstance. They’re giving up the accumulation edge they get from the federal government when it comes to IRAs, 401(k)s and other tax-advantaged accounts. While statistics show that consumers have stepped up their debt reduction and savings, it’s still not the norm.
Doing nothing isn’t a solution, it’s a death sentence for your retirement savings.
But you can hardly blame this person for becoming discouraged with investments and savings . Banks paying .50 % for you to park your money there isn’t what I called encouraging . And who the hell trust Wall Street anymore when they openly state that they don’t have to be fiduciary (at least that was one of the defenses of the Goldman Group at those hearings ,which I don’t really buy ).
Irrational exuberance is alive and well regarding the relative magnitudes of sovereign debt problems. But not to worry: Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
The Financial Times
Dangers loom beyond the eurozone
By Chris Giles in London
Published: April 28 2010 14:51 | Last updated: April 28 2010 20:09
The crisis in Greece serves as a warning to other countries not to lose control of their fiscal positions and the confidence of markets. But advanced countries have now stretched their public budgets so far that investors, economists and international organisations are getting worried.
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So far, investors have concentrated their ire on peripheral eurozone economies because of the single currency area’s inability to resolve the Greek crisis cleanly. That is understandable, according to many economists, but they add that the single focus on continental Europe is unfair.
David Mackie of JPMorgan, for example, argues that the combined eurozone deficit and debt compared favourably with other countries. “In our view, the euro area has the fiscal capacity to backstop banks across the region and to support the sovereign states of Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland, along with some help from the IMF.”
This message has been picked up by eurozone policy makers. Jürgen Stark, executive board member of the European Central Bank, said on Wednesday that restoring sustainability to the public finances was “even harder for the UK, the US and Japan”.
“Given their high budget deficits and the high and rising debt levels, they must undertake very strong consolidation efforts to manage a reversal.”
Mr Stark’s analysis is not merely an attempt to divert attention from the eurozone. It is identical to that of the IMF.
The Fund has calculated that almost all advanced economies need to tighten fiscal policy significantly in the coming decade in order to stabilise debt at 60 per cent of national income by 2030 and the tightening needed in the US, Japan and the UK is just as bad as that required in Greece, Spain, Ireland and Portugal.
The US must tighten fiscal policy by 9 per cent of national income to achieve a stable position, the Fund estimates for example, something Mr Buiter believes its politics will make very difficult. “The way things are now, the Republicans will veto all tax increases and the Democrats all public spending cuts,” he says.
This week, a survey of former senior US economic officials, unanimously agreed the US was on an unsustainable path and warned that there would be another economic crisis in the US unless the deficit was addressed.
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HBBers,
I have seen Sen. David Vitter on Fox bloviating about the oil spill.
Maybe he could donate his diaper to help clean it up.
Roidy
P.S. I was “invited” to another public meeting with the Right Honorable Senator Vitter. I couldn’t make that one. I’ll catch the next one and make a full report back to HBB.
P.S.S. To paraphrase the Church of Shatnerology: An HBBer in a room of normal people is akin to a Velociraptor in a room full of wiener dogs.
There seems to be a PR campaign that would like to make people think that with de-regulation all business law ,including good faith business practice ,
misrepresentation, product liability and fraud became void once de-regulation of Banks /’Insurance Companies/Investment houses came about . I would like to know when all that business law and commerce law was taken off the books . I think there are also laws against Ponzi-schemes
and attempts to misrepresent material facts with creditors . There are tons of laws on the books that I seriously doubt were dropped with de-regulation
of the culprits in the Real Estate lending Ponzi-scheme . I don’t think loan fraud all of sudden became legal for instance . “We didn’t see it coming “doesn’t seem to me to be a viable defense to me . When did the risk models change to real estate always goes up therefore you could abandon all lending standards and rate
junk loans as if they were AAA investment grade or bribe the Rating Companies to accept false models that no reasonable person would ever accept ? How liable are the market maker money changers for faulty business models for instance ? Not only were the risk models faulty but they were absurd .
Mark Hulbert
May 3, 2010, 12:01 a.m. EDT
Better than Goldman
Commentary: How to gain exposure to financials without a bet on Goldman
By Mark Hulbert, MarketWatch
ANNANDALE, Va. (MarketWatch) — From good boy to bad boy.
After years of having the reputation as Wall Street’s most revered institution, Goldman Sachs Group Inc. stumbled badly in mid-April following news that the Securities and Exchange Commission was filing suit against the firm for defrauding investors with securities tied to subprime mortgages.
Shares of Goldman Sachs (GS 145.20, -15.04, -9.39%) plunged on the news, shedding some $30 in a single session–equivalent to a drop of nearly 17%.
Ouch. Incurring that much volatility is a high price to pay for exposure to the financial sector.
Is there a way to gain that exposure without investing in Goldman?
The answer, at least from the top performing investment advisers monitored by the Hulbert Financial Digest, is yes. Those that have beaten the market over the last five years have for several months maintained a healthy allocation in their portfolios to the financial sector. And yet hardly any of them were recommending Goldman Sachs before the SEC’s suit was filed in mid-April.
So their clients were not particularly harmed by Goldman’s April plunge.
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Carmen Reinhart, co-author of This Time is Different, on the history of financial crises
I thunked Dudd’s Megabank, Inc masters wanted a ‘Bailout Bill’?
* OPINION
* MAY 3, 2010
How to Avoid a ‘Bailout Bill’
A new bankruptcy process is the right way to deal with failing financial institutions.
By JOHN B. TAYLOR
It’s good news there’s now bipartisan agreement that the financial reform bill should not be a “bailout bill,” and that amendments to Connecticut Sen. Chris Dodd’s draft legislation are being proposed and debated with this agreement in mind. The biggest challenge in this bailout reform debate is to avoid giving the federal government more discretionary power, whether by creating a special bailout fund or by providing more ways to bypass proven bankruptcy rules. Experience shows that such power would increase, not decrease, the likelihood of another crisis.
Some say that the government did not have enough power to intervene with certain firms during the financial crisis. But it had plenty of power and it used it, beginning with Bear Stearns. This highly discretionary power—to bail out some creditors and not others, to take over some businesses and not others, to let some firms go through bankruptcy and not others—was a major cause of the financial panic in the fall of 2008. The broad justification used for the bailout of Bear Stearns creditors led many to believe the government would again intervene if another similar institution, such as Lehman Brothers, failed.
But when the Federal Reserve and the Treasury Department could not persuade private firms to provide funds to Lehman to pay its creditors in September 2008, the Fed surprisingly cut off access to its funds. The examiner’s report on Lehman makes it very clear there was no preparation for bankruptcy proceedings before the day the government suddenly cut off the funds. No wonder there was a disruption.
Then, the next day, the Fed reopened its balance sheet to make loans to rescue the creditors of AIG, including billions for Goldman Sachs. The funding spigot was then turned off again, and a new program, the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP), was proposed. This on-again off-again policy was part of a series of unpredictable and confusing government interventions which led to panic.
This experience demonstrates why it is dangerous for the “orderly liquidation” section of the Dodd bill to institutionalize such a process by giving the government even more discretion and power to take over businesses; the interventions are likely again to cause more harm than good, even with the best of intentions. Many experts doubt the ability of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC) to take over large, complex financial institutions, as the current bill calls for, without causing disruption.
The moral hazard associated with protecting creditors will continue even if the FDIC has the discretionary authority to claw back later some of the funds it provides in the bailout. The proposed liquidation process would have the unintended consequence of increasing the incentive for creditors and other counterparties to run whenever there is a rumor that a government official is thinking about intervening. Who is going to be helped? Who is going to be hurt? It is up to government officials to decide, not the rule of law.
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Asia Markets
May 3, 2010, 12:38 a.m. EDT
Given that Asian savers were responsible for the U.S. housing bubble, due to sending our mortgage market excessive liquidity (at least according to Bernanke’s account), won’t a Chinese monetary tightening trigger a new leg down in the U.S. housing crash?
Chinese banks, property stocks slide on reserve rate hike
By V. Phani Kumar, MarketWatch
HONG KONG (MarketWatch) — The Chinese central bank’s move over the weekend to raise banks’ reserve requirements was designed to remove excess liquidity, as hot money pours into the country, due in part to hopes of the yuan’s appreciation.
But while Chinese banking and property shares declined Monday as the monetary-policy tightening weighed on investor sentiment, the increase may actually be mildly positive for Chinese banks, some analysts said.
The People’s Bank of China announced Sunday it was increasing commercial banks’ reserve requirement ratio by 0.5 percentage point, taking the RRR of large banks to 17% and that of small- and medium-sized banks to 15%.
The increase, which goes into effect May 10, is the PBOC’s third such hike this year and is estimated to drain out about 300 billion yuan ($43.9 billion) in liquidity from the Chinese banking system.
Asia’s Week Ahead: Focus on Australian rates
With U.S. and Japanese central banks keeping rates unchanged last week, how the Reserve Bank of Australia acts will be a focus in Asia. Results from Japanese electronics giant Panasonic are another highlight. MarketWatch’s Andria Cheng reports.
“We continue to view the RRR hike as a fundamentally positive tightening measure, as we believe it is still in the early part of the tightening cycle, which should help contain inflationary pressures, prolong the current economic expansion cycle and provide cushion for future policy flexibility,” Goldman Sachs analysts wrote in a report.
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Subprime mortgage lending kingpins EXPOSED! But it all turned out great at the end of the day, as the Wall Street Megabanks got their bailouts.
* LAW
* MAY 2, 2010
Senate’s Goldman Probe Shows Toxic Magnification
Wall Street Banks Repackaged Same Risky Bonds into Numerous Securities, Spreading the Pain Across Multiple CDOs
By CARRICK MOLLENKAMP And SERENA NG
Even at its peak, subprime lending accounted for a relatively small portion of overall mortgage lending. Yet losses from these mortgages caused deep damage to the financial system.
Now, documents released by Senate investigators last week provide clues in understanding why the losses were so severe. The documents show how Wall Street banks packaged and repackaged the same risky bonds into securities that ultimately helped magnify the impact of defaulting subprime mortgages on the financial system.
In one case, a $38 million subprime-mortgage bond created in June 2006 ended up in more than 30 debt pools and ultimately caused roughly $280 million in losses to investors by the time the bond’s principal was wiped out in 2008, according to data reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.
This was a central finding of the Senate investigative panel probing Goldman Sachs Group Inc.’s actions in the mortgage market. In a memo last week, panel Chairman Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.) said Goldman’s work “magnified the impact of toxic mortgages” by replicating mortgage securities in debt pools known as collateralized debt obligations as well as CDO derivatives, and also in an index that tracks subprime bonds.
The subprime mortgages that caused big losses generally were packaged into CDOs, in which dozens of mortgage-backed bonds were pooled together and slices of the CDOs were sold to investors. Another version of these CDOs didn’t contain actual mortgage bonds but were linked to them via derivatives called credit-default swaps. Through the use of derivatives, banks created many of these synthetic CDOs using the same mortgage securities, all of which would rise or fall in value depending on how the mortgages were performing. With synthetic CDOs, those who had bet that the loans would perform well were on the hook if their performance deteriorated.
In effect, the documents said, Wall Street was “copying and pasting” what turned out to be the worst-performing securities of the mortgage boom. Such activity helped multiply opportunities for hedge funds and traders who wanted to short the housing market, but magnified the losses of those on the other side of the trades. To short a trade, in this instance, is to bet the housing market will turn down.
“There was a limited number of similar bonds,” said Darrell Duffie, a finance professor and derivatives authority at Stanford University. “So they are likely to show up in multiple deals.”
Goldman Sachs executive Fabrice Tourre, at last week’s Senate hearing
A Goldman spokesman declined to comment.
An important moment in the housing cycle came in January 2006, a year before the downturn of the housing market had crystallized. That month, a consortium of banks, including Goldman and Deutsche Bank AG, with the help of a London data firm, launched an index, known as the ABX, which served as a proxy for subprime loans.
For the first time, banks and hedge funds had an indicator of the prices of subprime-mortgage securities, and a somewhat active market to buy and sell credit protection against housing-market losses. There were four ABX indexes, each tied to 20 subprime bonds, some of which reappeared in numerous CDOs.
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Synthetic CDO’s? A clone of bad paper and credit default swaps being made on this contrived duplicated junk . So we bailed out that which wasn’t even real but a duplicate of something that might of been real ,or maybe not . Does anybody think that this is just nothing but a
casino game manufactured by minds that should of kept their talent in the department of creating video games for 12 year olds ?
Copying and pasting what turned out to be the worst performing securities ,which would increase the ability of hedge funds and traders to short them ,while it would multiply the losses on the other side .
Am I reading this right ,because if I am ,we bailed out duplications of
bad paper ,that parties shorted and duplicated their wins while the other side duplicated their losses . God I thought the loss on the
actual security was bad enough ,but this is just unacceptable .
I have said it all along ,the bail outs hid what was really going on and they should of investigated this nonsense before they wrote blank checks or given Fed loans on this scheme .