Bits Bucket For June 19, 2010
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Examining the home price boom and its effect on owners, lenders, regulators, realtors and the economy as a whole.
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Realtors are flopping properties to their friends.They are not presenting highest bids to banks. In fact asking money upfront to present. Its criminal, somebody help.
Restricting inventory, a form of market manipulation, will help maintain pricing in the short-term. In the longer term, prices will reset to fundamentals based on incomes. Distorting the markets will have longer term negative consequences.
“Distorting the markets will have longer term negative consequences”.
Without a doubt!
The out come can’t be any other way, but when the entire system is complicit what on earth can a person do to rein in the insanity? This is the way of the world, it has to crash to the ground and burn, them be rebuilt. The powers that be will continue down this path of destruction with only minimal lip service, to those that fully understand where we are headed.
“The out come can’t be any other way, but when the entire system is complicit what on earth can a person do to rein in the insanity?”
Well for one thing he can sit back and allow events to run its course, then move in when and where financial disparities emerge.
Buying opportunities don’t show up when things are running smoothly, only selling opportunities. Buying opportunities show up when the world is seemingly falling apart.
“To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.”
“Buying opportunities show up when the world is seemingly falling apart.”
Signs that ‘there has never been a better time to buy a home’:
1) Prices have fallen ‘much further than expected’
2) The shadow inventory is in plain view
3) There is blood on the streets
4) People generally agree that ‘real estate is the worst investment’
5) Anyone who hears that you are thinking of buying a home considers you to be crazy
You should write copy for the NRA. You had me at, “There is blood on the streets.”
You should write copy for the NRA. You had me at, “There is blood on the streets.”
The NRA … or NAR?
Agreed, Prof, although none of those things are on the horizon as far as I can tell in the markets I’m searching. And I’d scratch #1 as being part of the equation. Even a 10% drop was/is seen as “much further than expected” to most of these maroons.
“And I’d scratch #1 as being part of the equation.”
I’m talking about further prices beyond those which have already occurred. It seems like the MSM is trying to promote the idea that housing prices have bottomed out; while I could potentially see this being the case in nominal terms (i.e., if the Fed “inadvertently” financially engineers “higher than expected” inflation), I believe the ratio of home prices to local incomes will continue to revert towards historic norms before “there has never been a better time to buy,” particularly in Coastal Cali.
The NRA…or NAR?
One is a bunch of crazy crackpots with odd ideas about constitutional law, the economy, and many other issues. They could ruin our country given a chance.
The other is a group of gun nuts.
“One is a bunch of crazy crackpots with odd ideas about constitutional law, the economy, and many other issues. They could ruin our country given a chance.
The other is a group of gun nuts.”
You left out the NAR from your breakdown: saying a group has “odd ideas” is to suggest their membership is capable of thought, which expludes UHS.
The NRA … or NAR?
NAR slogan: “I’ll give up my lying only after I’ve got cold, dead lips.”
Amen!
Buying opportunities don’t show up when things are running smoothly, only selling opportunities. Buying opportunities show up when the world is seemingly falling apart.
“To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven.”
Nobody loses an opportunity. Some one else takes it. Some times in life you have to wait a long time before another opportunity comes along. Having said that I think time is coming close for all kinds of opportunities in the next couple of years. Cash will be king
This practice is illegal as it is. What do you propose congress do? Make it super duper double secret probation illegal? And sorry but I don’t want yet another bureaucracy set up where every real estate transaction in the country is now analyzed by a bureaucrat in DC.
To the person who wrote this…you need to grow up a little. This is how life works. The old “who you know matters more than what you know” is as applicable as ever. Of course a realtor will get their friends in on a good deal. You’re naive to think this hasn’t always happened and won’t always happen.
I worked at a client once that needed a new suite of software apps. They got 4 bids. The cheapest was $500K less than the most expensive, and IMO the best one. But the most expensive bid was by a company whose CFO was college roommates with the CIO of the client. Guess which company go the contract?
That’s how the real world works. And no amount of legislation or regulation is going to change it.
Eddie, there is no harm in a blogger pointing out instances of illegal activity. This is not immature - it’s action. You’re too young to sit back and accept things as they are. Read Ben’s Florida postings this morning. Some of the RE criminals are being arrested and tried for their crimes. If people hadn’t complained, things wouldn’t even have been investigated. I know of honest real estate agents here in California who have registered complaints about fishy short sales. That’s how to effect change.
Maybe you could ask for more enforcement, but that’s not the job of the federal government. Do you really want The Department of Real Estate Enforcement created? Do you want another 10,000 govt bureaucrats hired to go through every real estate transaction and make sure there is nothing out of the ordinary happening? If he had a $13T budget surplus, sure why not? We have a $13T debt and I’d prefer we stop asking the federal govt to take care of every little problem we encounter in our daily lives.
If you have specific proof of a realtor doing this. Call the police or FBI or state police and make a complaint. That is my point. This activity is ALREADY ILLEGAL. I don’t see what more he/she wants congress to do.
he had a $13T budget surplus, sure why not? We have a $13T debt and I’d prefer we stop asking the federal govt to take care of every little problem we encounter in our daily lives.
1. Debt is much larger than 13 trillion if you throw in GSE’s.
2. Part of the debt is due to bailing out banks and taking over GSE’s due to this type of crime, so stopping it will actually help the debt.
Are you suggesting that real-estate and other so-called white collar crime be protected classes of criminal activity ? Do perpetrators of these crimes have special rights that don’t apply to other criminals ? So for instance, arresting a mugger is legitimate, but a banker or lawyer who embezzles or skims off a client’s funds is somehow immune from “government interference” ?
Not sure what Eddie is babbling about… considering how much we had to pump into the banks to keep them solvent, I don’t want short sale fraud depriving them of capital. A lot of these properties are held by FDIC institutions that are troubled and have capital restrictions in place. Really maximizing taxpayer dollar.
In general it’s better for the banks to just foreclose and move the sale through a wholesale lender.
There seems to be widespread FRAUD of shareholders, bondholders and the FDIC with many listings.
“But the most expensive bid was by a company whose CFO was college roommates with the CIO of the client. Guess which company go the contract?”
The CFO should have been fired.
My dearest little Eddie:
Congress is the entity currently coordinating the collusion amongst banks. We are not asking for a new piece of legislation. We are politely insisting that Congress stop playing silly games with our economy.
Peas and hominy,
Bigger V
I feel pretty foolish, but my second attempt to sign the petition failed again - never got an email. I’m a techno-retard, I guess, since I can’t figure out the Joshua Tree extension. Maybe I should blame it on Vista.
Did you check your spam folder? That’s been previously reported as a problem.
As Ram it down your throat Emanuel sez…Never let a “crisis” go to waste.
Medvedev sees chance for new world order
St Petersburg
Dmitry Medvedev, the Russian president, said Moscow was bidding to help lead efforts to build a new world economic order after the old system collapsed in the global financial crisis.
Opening Russia’s annual economic forum in St Petersburg where hundreds of global chief executives have flocked, Mr Medvedev said the renewed interest in Russia this year was a sign of a changing world in which the institutions of the western-dominated world order had had their day amid thousands of corporate defaults and the threat of sovereign defaults.
“What had seemed untouchable has collapsed. The bubbles that created the illusion of flourishing economies have burst,” Mr Medvedev said. “For Russia this situation is a challenge and an opportunity. We are living in a unique time. And we should use it to build a modern, flourishing and strong Russia … which will be a co-founder of the new world economic order and a full participant in the collective political leadership of the post-crisis world.”
Now that’s scary.
Just another challenge for Opie to avoid or pretend it doesn’t exist.
Medvedev Pushes Ruble Reserve Currency to Cut Dollar Dominance.
June 19 (Bloomberg) — Russia wants the ruble to be one of the world’s reserve currencies as President Dmitry Medvedev renews his push to reduce the dollar’s dominance and make Moscow a global financial hub.
“Only three, five years ago it seemed like a fantasy” to create a new reserve currency, Medvedev said yesterday in a speech in St. Petersburg, Russia. “Now we are seriously discussing it.”
Now it’s a “serious” fantasy.
“Medvedev Pushes Ruble Reserve Currency to Cut Dollar Dominance.”
It’s not a question of if, but when a new reserve currency is born.
When this happens the USD is toast. Burnt toast.
This is what happens when you elect the most popular kid in school as president.
Dream on, commie.
BP Admits That - If It Tries to Cap the Leak - the Whole Well May Blow
As previously noted, oil industry expert Rob Cavner said that BP must “keep the well flowing to minimize oil and gas going out into the formation on the side”:
This has just been confirmed by BP.
Specifically, BP’s Chief Operating Officer Doug Suttles told CNN last Thursday that BP’s data indicates that BP can’t cap the leaking oil, or it might cause the well casing to blow out:
Suttles denies that there is evidence that the well casing has already blown out beneath the sea floor.
But many experts - including experts working for BP - say that there is damage beneath the sea floor. Indeed, Matt Simmons told Bloomberg today that America’s top research vessel - the Thomas Jefferson - found that the well casing is gone, and can no longer even be seen on the sea floor, having been destroyed:
I am waiting to see the beautiful oil slick beaches of Havana….and what would Castro do? Pleasant thoughts today peeps
If we could somehow channel the oil into the gulfstream then it would end up on the beaches of Europe and we could count this oil as an export and thus help us balance out our import/export numbers.
Those morons have awakened a balrog.
+3 +7 +9.
+1 to rule them all.
But does the Balrog have wings?
Someone call Dick Cheney- he probably knew Gandalf ‘back in the day’.
Simmons also said he did not think the relief wells would be successful since the well casing was gone or damaged.
We should be preparing to collapse the well. Nukes, bunker busters exc. What ever it takes.
That’s what one Russian oil expert said…Nuke it.
There are only a few things worse than crude oil flowing into the sea- crude oil and chemical dispersing agents flowing into the sea, and radioactive crude oil flowing into the sea. These idiots talking about nuclear bombs need to get their heads checked. Talk about an environmental disaster…
I might add that if they detonate a nuclear bomb in the Gulf of Mexico, I will never eat another piece of seafood from that area again in my life.
A nuke detonated on a well head over an oil reservior of undermined size, shape and depth at 1 mile down with an OCEAN of sea water above and around it for Tamping DOWN the Blast ?
Talk about the Mother of All shock and blast blast loads on the ocean floor !!
I truly hope that we’re not THAT insane or desperate yet.
As oil gushes into the sea, BP CEO Tony Hayward is off yachting:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill
Its good to be the King!
“Suttles denies that there is evidence that the well casing has already blown out beneath the sea floor.”
Great, instead of the ocean’s belly button leaking, it’s gonna rupture it’s puking guts out.
Anyone know of a nearby small, green planet with resonable RE prices ?
Lawyer is $61M in debt
Ex-highway commissioner Goodstein files bankruptcy
The Post and Courier June 19, 2010
Straining under the weight of at least $61 million in debts, former state highway commissioner Arnold S. Goodstein has filed for personal bankruptcy.
The Summerville lawyer, who was once head of one of the region’s largest local home-building businesses, owes much of the money to banks that made loans for land he planned to develop throughout the Charleston area, according to court records.
Some of the troubled real estate projects he had been involved with are partially completed subdivisions. Also, some tracts have been taken over by lenders through foreclosure lawsuits.
Goodstein, a 66-year-old former state senator who has a stretch of Interstate 26 named after him, estimated the value of his personal assets at less than $10 million, according to a filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court.
“The likelihood he’s going to be able to repay (all claims) is pretty remote,” said Columbia attorney Geoffrey Levy, who represents Goodstein.
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2010/jun/19/lawyer-is-61m-in-debt/
Looks like we’ll just need to print a little faster, like maybe warp factor 5. I’m given her all she’s got captain.
“This year, the [Social Security] system will pay out more benefits than it receives…accumulated revenue will slowly start to shrink, as outlays start to exceed revenue…[and] by law, Social Security cannot pay out more than its balance in any given year.”
One of these days young workers are going to look at that big chunk from their paychecks marked “FICA” and say “What’s the point of paying this tax? I won’t see a dime of it when I’m old.”
Bankers: BP seeks $1B loan each from 7 banks
LONDON - BP PLC, battling to plug a gushing oil well under the Gulf of Mexico, is seeking loans of $1 billion from each of seven banks to raise up to $7 billion, banking sources told Thomson Reuters LPC on Friday.
BP is raising capital for a $20 billion clean-up fund, said a different senior banker in the United States, referring to the escrow account that U.S. President Barack Obama demanded the company set up to handle damage claims.
BP has asked its main lenders to put a series of coordinated 1-year standby bilateral loans in place, one source said. This type of loan is made by individual banks to a company and are not syndicated.
“BP has asked its main lenders…”
Is it some kind of closely guarded secret who BP’s main lenders are? I will take a wild guess at some financial corporations which might be on the list:
JP Morgan
Goldman Sachs
Morgan Stanley
Citigroup
Barclay’s
Deutsche Bank
Wells Fargo
These are just wild hunches; please post any corrections you may have to my hunches.
“…..seeking loans of $1 billion from each of seven banks to raise up to $7 billion.”
So let me get this straight:
1) The govt. pressures BP to set up a $20B fund for the gulf (with very little resistance from BP) Hey it’s only TWENTY BILLION DOLLARS!!!!!
2) BP borrows the $$$$ from the banks to set up the fund (don’t worry if it will ever be paid back, your just the middle man)
3) The govt. takes $$$$ from taxpayers to give to banks
4)The taxpayer set up a giant slush fund so the govt. can appear to be getting tough with BP (there is an election coming up you know)
Got it. Lets get this dog and pony show on the road.
From Reuters UK:
Lenders including Barclays (BARC.L), HSBC (HSBA.L) and Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS.L) are working on loans of $1 billion to BP, sources said. No U.S. banks were providing funds, another lending source said.
An official for BP declined to comment on any plans for loans. “We do not comment on rumour and speculation,” a BP spokesperson said.
“We do not comment on rumor and speculation”.
No, you just encourage it through your lack of comment.
The fact that they point out that…”No U.S. banks were providing funds, another lending source said”….makes me think that is probably where the funds are coming from.
Hows that for circular reasoning??
I’m not the Messiah! I’m not the Messiah!
Only the true Messiah would deny his divinity.
OK, I am the Messiah.
He is the Messiah!!!
I thought he was a muslim.
If you’re right, CIBt, look for oil prices to shoot higher.
I just read last night that the week after the well blew, Dick Cheney went to Saudi Arabia for some reason. One SPECULATION is to ask the Saudi’s to ramp up their own production to keep prices low.
If faced with high gas prices and an oil spill at the same time, the American People might actually get serious about running cars on something other than oil. And Dick Cheney can’t be having any of that.
From Bloomberg, June 16th:
BP had $5 billion of cash available, $5.25 billion of bank credit lines it hadn’t used and another $5.25 billion of stand-by bank facilities, according to Fitch, which cited a June 4 investor call. Fitch said it expects BP’s lenders to allow the company to use the credit lines if needed.
BP generated $27.7 billion in cash flow from operations last year and posted profit of $6 billion in the first quarter. Capital spending will total about $20 billion the company said in this year’s strategy presentation.
The company has spent about $1.6 billion on containing and cleaning up the spill so far.
Big Brother————–
Senators propose granting president emergency Internet power
A new U.S. Senate bill would grant the president far-reaching emergency powers to seize control of or even shut down portions of the Internet.
The legislation announced Thursday says that companies such as broadband providers, search engines, or software firms that the government selects “shall immediately comply with any emergency measure or action developed” by the Department of Homeland Security. Anyone failing to comply would be fined.
That emergency authority would allow the federal government to “preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people,” Joe Lieberman, the primary sponsor of the measure and the chairman of the Homeland Security committee, told reporters on Thursday. Lieberman is an independent senator from Connecticut who caucuses with the Democrats.
“That emergency authority would allow the federal government to ‘preserve those networks and assets and our country and protect our people’”.
Now there’s a red flag for you.
Well we get what we deserve by voting the way we do. Apparently the general public want big gubmint to control and take care of every aspect of their lives.
So we are getting what “we” want, and we are getting “it” good and hard. Now, where’s all the “free” stuff we’ve been promised?
so true. maybe this is what we need to wake people up.
Again, this is what happens you vote the most popular kid in high school in as president. And the good news we have 2.5 years left to go.
This may be a moot point. After ObamaCare and CapNTax and implemented we’ll be so poor, nobody will have the money to access the internet.
Uh, the bill was put forward by Lieberman, hardly a close ally of this pres. But maybe he was he the most popular guy in high school too, so your brilliant theory may still prove true.
But maybe he was he the most popular guy in high school too, so your brilliant theory may still prove true.
Lord knows Liebermen just oozes charisma and charm.
Jon Stewart’s perfect impersonation of Lieberman is Droopy Dog.
don’t fret. my favorite President will be re-elected. he is the reason for the tea party movement, and I am being serious here! a lot of young people are now reading up on libertarianism, Austrian economics, Ayn Rand, et al. at the end of the next six years there will be a “small government” party that holds the majority in congress. in the meantime hold onto your American Eagles and Maple Leafs! aladinsane was right all along.
Ha! Dream on. Do you realize how stupid most people are? If you can GET THROUGH Atlas Shrugged you’re in the 95th percentile. Thinking for yourself hurts. It’s much easier to let people tell you what to think and then blame them when you get screwed. I read an article in “Mother Jones” in which Glenn Beck is being blamed for people losing money on gold investments they bought from one of his advertisers, Goldline. These people didn’t do their own due diligence. They have only themselves to blame. Two things:
#1: stop listening to Glenn Beck; #2: find out what the spot price of pure gold is and don’t pay more than that for 18K. What dumb asses people are.
I have seen the dumbing down of music …I am posting ads on CL looking for anyone who is not McMusic and give them free airtime on my radio show….Its slim pickins out there…
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Ha! Dream on. Do you realize how stupid most people are?
If you can GET THROUGH Atlas Shrugged you’re in the 95th percentile.
Yeah, but you’re in the 99th percentile of people who just wasted too much time on a dreadful piece of writing.
Reading a book written by someone else can hardly be termed “thinking for yourself”.
If you can read Atlas Shrugged without provoking thought, you are brain dead.
Well at least all the action in the gulf didn’t keep him from catching a sox game.
My thought is he should be getting a 16 hr a day fill on engineering and options to handle things.
Figuring some ways to mitigate the damage.
Like I said, the dude is an empty suit.
“My thought is he should be getting a 16 hr a day…”
James,
I have had the same thoughts. This jack-off should be burning the midnight oil anyway let alone during a crisis like this. All vacations, private concerts, etc, should be suspended.
I’ve put in 12+ hour days, every day of the week, for up to 9 months on some high profile projects I’ve managed. This guy is the leader of the free world and he can’t break his social schedule.
Give me a f-ing break.
I think he’s trying not to have his presidency ‘captured’ by the spill the way Carter’s presidency was captured by the hostage crisis. If all he does is focus on an issue that he simply cannot correct with the powers of the presidency, then he ends up appearing as impotent as Carter was perceived to be during the hostage crisis.
Sorry, Bill in LA. For every new young teabagger reading up on libertarianism, there are probably 2-3 new progressive activists on the other side. Not to mention “minority” Hispanics and LBGT who have pretty much had it with the party of old white men.
Bah! those others you mention are complacent because they know there is no one who is for less individual responsibility than BO. you are just dreaming your collectivist utopia, is all.
a lot of young people are now reading up on libertarianism, Austrian economics, Ayn Rand, et al. at the end of the next six years there will be a “small government” party that holds the majority in congress.
Most of today’s young people are as lobotomized as their elders, and have the same fixation with immersing themselves in inane entertainment and electronic distractions. But are growing number are seeing just how badly they’ve been shafted by the most heedless & self-indulgent generation in this planet’s history, the Baby Boomers, and are highly pissed off about it. They have rallied around Ron Paul in droves and are the energetic core of his movement.
I don’t see a “small government” party, however. That’s just crazy talk. The stranglehold of the oligarchs and corporate plutocrats over our political process, made possible by the bovine complacency of the vast majority of the population, is too complete for partisans of limited and accountable government to change the status quo that soon. Unless there’s a total economic collapse, and then all bets are off.
“After ObamaCare and CapNTax and implemented we’ll be so poor, nobody will have the money to access the internet.”
Take away the opiates of the masses (television and internet) and you WILL see a revolt!
I am tryin real hard not give in to the “Eddietard” trend in which this blog has been caught up. REAL HARD!
Just ignore his comments. If that doesn’t work, try the Joshua Tree extension. If all else fails, perhaps a real Joshua Tree is worth a try.
“Bigger V”
How big can a VB?
Give Eddie a break. There should be room in here for even unpopular opinions.
I am exceedingly of the mind that Eddie and Joey are employed by the same group. It’s like “The Super Secret Industry Coalition for Banskter Influence”, or something along those lines. This suspicion arises from the fact that Eddie and Joey, at different times, have both thrown out the same inane, preposterous non sequiturs. These are not “ideas” that would normally flow from conversation, and should therefore be expected from different people conversing in similar contexts. They have been purely illogical statements, pulled seemingly out of the blue, in response to any criticism of the banking industry and how it’s being handled. Joey and Eddie are pure trolls. They are uncooperative and have an agenda of their own. They do not intend to add to the conversation, but to merely sidetrack it. They stink.
I will post this again some other time.
Oh, I forgot to add:
They seem to both be pulling stock “arguments” from the same playbook.
They seem to both be pulling stock “arguments” from the same playbook.
Because they are the same person. Notice when Joey is around Little Eddie goes away. When Little Eddie is around Older Joey goes away.
Looks like the patriot act was just the start.
Shoot. Better getcher comments in post-haste, dudes. They’re about to shut er down.
This is pure fluff. The president already has total powers of martial if needed.
You should be more worried about the Patriot Act which already authorizes domestic spying without due process.
It’s for your own security, serf.
And another news cycle comes and goes. Anyone else notice how Goldman Sucks has faded back into happy (for them) anonymity?
Who cares about Goldman Sucks. What’s important is the Lakers won the NBA championship.
I wanna go start a riot!
BP Vs. Goldman Sachs: A Tale Of Two Companies And A Recession
June 9, 2010 - 5:26 pm
Aman Singh is the Corporate Responsibility Editor at Vault.com and the author of Vault’s CSR Blog In Good Company.
Lately it feels like Goldman Sachs just cannot get enough of the front page. The bank that CEO Lloyd Blankfein describes as doing “God’s work” added yet another subpoena to its burgeoning file yesterday. This time, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission (FCIC) subpoenaed the bank, alleging that it failed to provide documentation and witnesses in several cases, despite repeated requests since January. Add the SEC’s ongoing case accusing Goldman of fraud related to the subprime mortgage market and you have a bank that is flailing in a marketplace and a profession that operates on trust.
BP has occupied even more new space in recent weeks with the blogosphere going berserk with all the sudden disclosure of internal practices: should we concentrate on BP or Goldman Sachs? There’s too much going wrong with two of the most revered institutions in the country. This blog ran a series on the oil spill and BP’s culpability as well, penned by various staffers of Corporate Responsibility Magazine, questioning in turn, reputation, brand management, risk analysis and accountability.
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There’s too much going wrong with two of the most revered institutions in the country.
BP and Goldman Sachs are “two of the most revered institutions in the country”?
Really? Revered by whom?
Wall Street’s “Big Swingin’ D!cks”? That’s hardly a rousing endorsement.
“Revered?” Say WHAT?!
“Reviled” is more like it.
If I loose my job when the school shuts down, I wonder if I could be a WS Analyst. I mean all I need to do is to put on the Happy Face.
Roidy
P.S. Of course I quit smoking that stuff when I turned 23.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100619/ap_on_bi_ge/us_chinese_drywall_7
A Miami couple has been awarded $2.4 million in damages in the first (but by no means last) lawsuit over noxious Chinese drywall that turned their $1.6 million “dream home” into a nightmare. This will open the floodgates for similar litigation from tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of other homeowners stuck with this toxic crap.
“A Miami couple has been awarded $2.4 million in damages…”
Oh how wonderful winning $2.4 million must be for them. Now all they need to do is collect.
No kidding. But first, it will go through appeals. That will take a few years. Then they’ll get to try and collect.
And when they collect, they’ll likely sell the award for a lump-sum cash distribution for 50 on the dollar.
But that won’t be reported - can’t crush the dreams of the wealthy.
The Valdez settlement went from 5 bIllion to 500 million and took 2 decades to settle.
Avg final settlement to the 33,000 affected individuals amounts to one year of income after legal fees.
You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?
Sounds like Ocean Beach is turning into South Berkeley. Nothing about this story surprises me, especially given the dim prospects for even highly-qualified young people entering the labor force for the first time.
For reference, Ocean Beach is a San Diego community south of Mission Beach and La Jolla, and north of Point Loma and the San Diego Harbor.
O.B.’s homeless fight
Controversial bumper stickers target new type of transient
By John Wilkens, UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
Friday, June 18, 2010 at 9:59 p.m.
A sticker at the South Coast Longboards surf shop in Ocean Beach urges people not to feed the homeless. Aimed to thwart what some call aggressive panhandling, the stickers have sparked controversy.
Charlie Neuman
A sticker at the South Coast Longboards surf shop in Ocean Beach urges people not to feed the homeless. Aimed to thwart what some call aggressive panhandling, the stickers have sparked controversy.
Ocean Beach has always had a thing for bumper stickers. “Coexist” is a popular one. “Shut Your Mouth and Open Your Mind” is another. And there’s this classic in counterculture bravado: “U.S. Out of O.B.”
Now, a new sticker is raising eyebrows and tempers along the community’s main commercial drag, Newport Avenue, causing some to wonder what’s happening to the scruffy town’s legendary “live and let live” vibe.
“Welcome to Ocean Beach,” the sticker reads. “Please Don’t Feed Our Bums.”
A homeless controversy in O.B.? Yes, and it started, of all places, in a head shop.
That would be The Black, which has been around for 40 years and sells much more than “tobacco” paraphernalia these days. Ken Anderson, an employee there, got together with a friend a few weeks ago and came up with the idea for the stickers, which he had printed and now sells in the store.
Anderson said he’s fed up with what he characterizes as a new strain of transient — young, able-bodied, rude and aggressive. These are panhandlers, he said, who travel in groups with pit bulls and knives on their belts and don’t ask for spare change so much as demand it.
“They have no respect for O.B. or for the people who live here,” said Anderson, 42, a 19-year resident.
He talked of friends who have been held up by machete-wielding street people, of merchants whose awning-covered doorways have been turned into trash cans and toilets. He said transients call him “a sellout” for having a job.
“The homeless guys who have been here a long time know us and we know them and they do their best not to bother people,” Anderson said. “These young kids aren’t like that. They don’t want to work. They just want to coast.”
Transients known as “travelers” move from city to city in groups, and for them homelessness is more of a lifestyle than a circumstance, said David Surwilo, the San Diego Police Department’s community relations officer in Ocean Beach. Some have credit cards and cell phones, he said.
“People in Ocean Beach are getting frustrated,” he said. “The sticker is their way of saying, ‘Let’s stop these people from parasiting off the community.’ ”
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Wow, talk about the difference between a handout and a shakedown!
Anderson said he’s fed up with what he characterizes as a new strain of transient — young, able-bodied, rude and aggressive. These are panhandlers, he said, who travel in groups with pit bulls and knives on their belts and don’t ask for spare change so much as demand it.
Pretty soon such roving bands of dirtbags will be able to operate with near-impunity, thanks to police departments being used as revenue collectors [from speed traps, red light cameras, and the ever-growing number of petty "offenses" used to generate fines from honest citizens] rather than enforcing law and order. In addition, police departments will want to punish local citizens who reject bond initiatives aimed at providing “better policing” but never actually deliver on this promise. What better way to shake down the taxpayers than by letting the criminal element prey on them unmolested?
Sammy,
I couldn’t agree more. In fact I saw two ’street urchins’, as I like to call them, outside of a restaurant last night. They didn’t bother anyone as far as I could tell. Hardly a mob but unsettling for sure. It may come to the point were you have to wear a soap necklace to ward these people away. Kind of like a vampire & garlic.
I wonder how many of the younger generation decides this is a zero sum dead end game and check out?
BP Oil Spill: As Pay Czar Promises Money, Workers Turned Away From BP Claims Center
Feinberg Says Money is on the Way; Coast Guard Defends Spill Response, Saying Regulations Got in the Way
Kenneth Feinberg arrived at the Louisiana State Capitol today in Baton Rouge with a mandate from President Obama — get the money flowing to the people of the Gulf.
Louisiana Governor Jindal frustrated over decision-making red tape.
Millions of dollars worth of claims have been filed by businesses and people who’ve lost their livelihoods because of the BP oil spill, but 60 days into the crisis, lawmakers say the company has paid only 12 percent of them.
Feinberg promised that will soon change and encouraged workers to file their claims. President Obama this week named Feinberg as his “pay czar” for BP’s oil spill escrow account.
“We’ll decide who will get paid,” he promised, saying “we’re going to get them paid immediately.
Regulators shut down Nevada bank, making for 83rd bank failure this year in US
WASHINGTON (AP) — Regulators on Friday shut down a Nevada bank, raising to 83 the number of U.S. bank failures this year.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. took over Nevada Security Bank, based in Reno, with $480.3 million in assets and $479.8 million in deposits. Umpqua Bank, based in Roseburg, Ore., agreed to assume the assets and deposits of the failed bank.
The failure of Nevada Security Bank is expected to cost the deposit insurance fund $80.9 million.
In addition, the FDIC and Umpqua Bank agreed to share losses on $368.2 million of Nevada Security Bank’s loans and other assets.
Come on Sheila, you had a full work week and all you could do was to shut one measly bank? That’s nowhere close to your average of just above 4 banks per week so far this year.
Obama Parkway To Alleviate Traffic In Orlando.
3-Mile Roadway To Link Area In Orange Co.
ORLANDO, Fla. — The city of Orlando broke ground Friday morning on a new roadway project expected to bring plenty of jobs to Central Florida.
The project is named after the president.
Mayor Buddy Dyer will be on hand for ground breaking of the President Barack Obama Parkway Extension Project.
The 3.3-mile stretch will link what was formerly Pine Hills Road and Mission Road in Orange County.
It’s expected to relieve traffic from some of Orlando’s most congested roads.
Medicare Payment Cuts to be Implemented Despite Senate Action.
In Late Senate Vote, Democrats Promise Six-Month “Doc Fix” Extension Won’t Add to Deficit.
Doctors who treat Medicare patients will be subject to a 21.3 percent cut in their payments — at least for now — despite a last-minute effort by the Senate to delay the cuts.
In his weekly address, the president asks Congress to act on Medicare measure.
The Senate today passed a six-month extension of the so-called Medicare “doc fix” after Democrats agreed to a Republican requirement that the extension not add to the deficit. The Senate’s late action only gets the bill a third of the way into law. The measure has to be voted on by the House of Representatives and then signed by President Obama, and until then, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid have to pay doctors the reduced rates.
“We have to pay under the current law and the current law is the -21.3 percent,” a spokesperson for CMS told ABCNews.com. Until both the Senate and the House pass “the bill and the president signs it, the changes are not effective. So we can’t pay under that until the bill becomes law and there is no change in what we are paying.”
There is another solution……make sure doctors have no student debt when they graduate and they must take medicare patients for at least 5-10 years….then the 21.3 % cut wont matter
This applies to the U.S. and a dozen other countries.
Economy may never recover from banking crisis, warns OBR
Francis Elliott, Gráinne Gilmore
The economy, more damaged by the banking crisis than previously admitted, will grow more weakly and may never fully recover, the new Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said yesterday.
The conclusion adds billions of pounds to the total that George Osborne must find if he is to restore the public finances to health.
Public sector workers were warned yesterday that taxpayers could no longer afford their “unreformed, gold-plated pension pots” as the Lib-Con coalition Government used the first OBR forecasts to step up efforts to prepare voters for next week’s Budget.
Growth is forecast at 2.6 per cent next year and 2.8 per cent in 2012, far below Alistair Darling’s predictions for 3.25 and 3.5 per cent respectively. This leaves Britain’s structural deficit — which is impervious to the economic cycle — bigger than feared over the next five years. It will hit 8.8 per cent of GDP, or £123.7 billion this year, compared with Mr Darling’s forecast of 8.4 per cent of GDP. By 2014-15 it will have fallen only to 2.8 per cent of GDP, the budget office said, rather than the 2.5 per cent anticipated by Labour.
“This applies to the U.S. and a dozen othe countries.”
“Public sector workers were warned yesterday that taxpayers could no longer afford their ‘unreformed gold-plated pension pots’.”
Promised money that is not paid out means a lot of people will have to somehow learn to do without a lot of promised money.
These broken promises will translate into a scarcity of money flowing throughout the economy.
A scarcity of money flowing throughout the economy makes any money that does flow more precious, which allows those who possess any of this scarce money to call the shots.
Cash rules.
When you hear people saying things like “never recover”, that’s how you know you’re nearing a time of opportunity.
Yup, but we need a lot more people saying it.
Nobody but the rich and Wall St. recovered from the last 6 recessions.
huh?
You REALLY need to get out more often.
you really need to prove your point. burden is on you.
here is counter proof: Steve Jobs, dropped out of college, became rich. and how about the founder of Twitter? was he rich already? finally, what is the definition of “rich?” To a college student in South Dakota it is probably anyone with an income of $70,000 per year. to a Ney Yorker, it is anyone with an income over $500,000 per year. you are using the old socialist trick of subjectivism to “prove” your case. that fraud of yours does not work on me.
Yet you posit with a subjective rebuttal.
The government definition of wealth are as follows:
20th percentile $17,984
Median (50th) $43,318
80th percentile $86,867
95th percentile $154,120
As of 2005, there were approximately 146,000 (0.1%) households with incomes exceeding $1,500,000, while the top 0.01% or 11,000 households had incomes exceeding $5,500,000. The 400 highest tax payers in the nation had gross annual household incomes exceeding $87,000,000. Household incomes for this group have risen more dramatically than for any other. As a result the gap between those who make less than one and half million dollars annually (99.9% of households) and those who make more (0.1%) has been steadily increasing, prompting The New York Times to proclaim that the “Richest Are Leaving Even the Rich Far Behind.” Indeed the income disparities within the top 1.5% are quite drastic. While households in the top 1.5% of households had incomes exceeding $250,000, 443% above the national median, their incomes were still 2200% lower than those of the top .01% of households. One can therefore conclude that almost any household, even those with incomes of $250,000 annually are poor when compared to the top .1%, who in turn are poor compared to the top 0.000267%, the top 400 taxpaying households.
so if I earned 1,500,000.00, but not a penny more In 2005, I would not be rich? but if I earned 1,500,000.01 I would be rich? the New Yawk Times defines who us rich? I don’t give a f what the New Yawk Times prints.
It will never cease to amaze me how gullible some people are, easy targets.
The New Poor. Peddling Relief, Firms Put Debtors in a Deeper Hole.
PALM BEACH, Fla. — For the companies that promise relief to Americans confronting swelling credit card balances, these are days of lucrative opportunity.
So lucrative, that an industry trade association, the United States Organizations for Bankruptcy Alternatives, recently convened here, in the oceanfront confines of the Four Seasons Resort, to forge deals and plot strategy.
At a well-lubricated evening reception, a steel drum band played Bob Marley songs as hostesses in skimpy dresses draped leis around the necks of arriving entrepreneurs, some with deep tans.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/19/business/economy/19debt.html?ref=business
Please Sir, may I have another?
“It will never cease to amaze me how gullible some people are, easy targets.”
These people might as well be wearing “KICK ME” signs. If something can be done wrong, that’s how they will do it.
I used to have a job as a bill collector. There is no way to make someone pay an overdue bill. They will either let the derogatory mark expire on their credit report, or they will pay it off because they’re trying to get a mortgage or car loan. Most of these people can’t repair their credit simply by paying off one or two past-due bills, as they also have this FORECLOSURE thingy hanging over their heads. Most of this debt is truly uncollectable.
No jobs = no money
But the PTB seem to think our consumer driven economy doesn’t need consumers.
I haven’t been inside a movie theater in more than 15 years, so that puts me in the minority.
‘Toy Story 3′ lives up to its buzz with $41M opening day, aims for $100M weekend. June 19, 2010
LOS ANGELES (AP) — “Toy Story 3″ has become the favorite plaything for moviegoers as the animated sequel heads to a $100-million-plus opening weekend.
The latest hit from Disney’s Pixar Animation took in $41 million in its first day Friday, according to studio estimates.
That puts “Toy Story 3″ on track to join “Shrek 2″ and “Shrek the Third” as the only animated films to top $100 million in their debut weekends.
The Russian oil guy that said last week, they will need to nuke it to stop it, may be right. This problem is no where near being solved.
BP oil disaster: How much oil is left? (AP)
BP oil disaster: The underwater oil field still holds 94 to 97 percent of its oil, meaning that it could keep gushing for another two to four years.
BP CEO Tony Hayward says the reservoir that feeds the gushing well in the Gulf of Mexico probably still holds about 2 billion gallons of oil.
Appearing before a House subcommittee, Hayward estimated that the reservoir tapped by the out-of-control well holds at least 50 million barrels of oil. At 42 gallons per barrel, that’s 2.1 billion gallons.
According to government estimates of daily flow figures, anywhere from 73.5 million to 126 million gallons gushed from the breached wellhead — whether into the water or captured.
That means the reservoir likely holds 94 to 97 percent of its oil. At the current flow rate, it would take from two to nearly four years for all the oil to leak from the field if it can’t be stopped.
Anyone suggesting we nuke the thing is an idiot.
Doensn’t mean they might not eventually try it.
Unwed Daughters in Greece Catch ‘Time Bomb’ in Pension Overhaul
(Bloomberg) — Sophia Constantinidou works as a teacher in a private school in Athens. She also has a more lucrative job: remaining unmarried.
The 52-year-old gets 400 euros ($496) a month from the Greek government, part of her late mother’s state pension. Under the current system, Constantinidou qualifies to receive the payment for life as the only surviving child of a deceased civil servant, provided she doesn’t tie the knot.
“It’s not that I didn’t want to get married,” Constantinidou, whose mother died 20 years ago, said in an interview. “But after I turned 40, I realized I wouldn’t be getting married and that thankfully I had this.”
As the European Union, International Monetary Fund and bond investors scrutinize debt-ridden Greece, they need look no further than the pension system for a prime example of how the country is living beyond its means. Greek pensioners on average live on 96 percent of the salary they had when they worked, more than twice the proportion of earnings as Germans, according to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
Greece “is a classic case of entitlements granted by short-sighted governments that didn’t bother to secure financing sources,” said Miranda Xafa, a former director at the IMF and now a senior investment strategist at Geneva-based IJPartners. “The political benefit of pension entitlements granted is immediate, but the cost will be incurred later.”
Dingle-Barry sez…
Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama on Saturday pinned blame on Republicans for making life harder for the unemployed and for those who could lose their jobs without new federal intervention. He did so even as he sought to distance himself from the “dreary and familiar politics” of Washington.
Capping a week in which the administration scored a victory — a $20 billion fund to be paid by BP for the victims of the Gulf of Mexico oil spill — Obama reserved his radio and Internet address to focus on the work that didn’t get done.
His main concern was the rejection of a bill in the Senate that would have provided more money for the long-term unemployed, aid for strapped state governments and the renewal of popular tax breaks for businesses and individuals.
“If this obstruction continues, unemployed Americans will see their benefits stop,” Obama said. “Teachers and firefighters will lose their jobs. Families will pay more for their first home. All we ask for is a simple up or down vote. That’s what the American people deserve.”
“…he sought to distance himself from the ‘dreary and familiar politics’ of Washington.”
Really? You mean, a career politician, coming up with catchy “Change” and “Yes we can” slogans, riding his white horse into the white house, followed by an army of, you guessed it, career politicians and Washington insiders, isn’t the ideal way to affect change? What a surprise.
Families will pay more for their first home.
I thought that was their plan?
I just spoke to a women living in California who invested her nest egg in two Commercial properties near Syracuse NY. One is a 29,891 sq ft. The tenant DHL has left the building and did not renew their 5 year lease. The tax bill for the property is 60K. She mentioned she also has a mortgage, maintains the property around 50 degrees in the winter months and in 07 the town required an updated sprinkler system. The cost for the sprinkler system was above 70K. The building has new heating and air conditioning system. Now add the bill for snow plowing and this landlady carrying cost is well over 100K per year. She is in her golden years and said she is almost bankrupt. The building is one of the best in the area. Her price to rent the building to us is 50 cents a square foot per month. It is a nice building. I think we will wait and offer her less than half the asking price. I can remember the cost to rent a 75,000 square ft building in Elizabeth NJ in 1988 was 0.25 cents per square ft. The rental prices have come down.
We just leased another office in a very prestigious building that includes heating, air conditioning, nightly janitorial service included, indoor parking, freshly painted with 3 large offices. Now with a drum roll please the total cost to us (are you all sitting down) is $2400 per year. The leasing manager mentioned that “The chance for them to rent this office space was if a guy gets hit on the head with an apple and then walks into his office looking for a commercial space could he have gotten market rent. He took what we offered. I was SHOCKED when they accepted my crazy offer. It shows Cash is king.
Its time to squeeze our current landlord and show them who’s the boss.
Wow, democracy in action!
Vote system that elected NY Hispanic could expand.
The Associated Press
PORT CHESTER, N.Y. — The court-ordered election that allowed residents of one New York town to flip the lever six times for one candidate - and produced a Hispanic winner - could expand to other towns where minorities complain their voices aren’t being heard.
But first, interested parties will want to take a look at the exit surveys.
The unusual election was imposed on Port Chester after a federal judge determined that Hispanics were being treated unfairly.
The 2010 Census is expected to show large increases in Latino populations and lawsuits alleging discrimination are likely to increase, said Rob Richie, executive director of FairVote, a nonprofit election research and reform group.
“The country’s been changing in a lot of places, with minority growth in exurbs and commuter cities, and there will be a realization that those minorities can’t elect candidates of choice,” Richie said.
Crazy.
This will eventually be overturned as it it directly violates teh National Voting Rights Act of 1965.
“…the Act prohibited states from imposing any ‘voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure … to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color.’”
talk about reverse discrimination…I am 1/6 a person compared to the Hispanic
Blacks didn’t like that idea 150 years ago…so why should I sit back and take it. my bro lives in PC…
I bet a Hispanic who supports English as a first language, rejects services for Illegal immigrants and supports limited non intrusive government would be get elected without the 6x vote. These types of Hispanic candidates do exist but their so called “community” rejects them.
Simple fix, just spank the hell out of the taxpayers and rise taxes.
California tax collections fall almost $5B
Sacramento Business Journal
The California State Board of Equalization collected about $4.7 billion less in 2008-09 than the previous fiscal year, a decline of 8.9 percent, the agency reported Friday.
The Board of Equalization collected $48.4 billion in revenue in taxes and fees that support state and local government services, including health care, education and transportation. The state’s share of those collections, a news release said, totaled $36.7 billion, nearly 35 percent of all state revenue for the fiscal year.
By Hao Li | June 18, 2010 4:47 PM EDT
Shadow inventory to put pressure on home prices
Properties emerging from foreclosures that are likely to be reintroduced to the housing market, or “shadow inventory,” will put downward pressure on real estate prices for the next few years.
Richard DeKaser, president of Woodley Park Research in Washington, explained that foreclosed properties go back to the lenders, who can then have the choice of selling them back to the market.
The lenders are managing this reintroduction of foreclosed properties “judiciously,” said DeKaser.
“[Lenders] are not dumping them as quickly as they come in. They are trying to move the properties in a manner that maximizes value.”
Many lenders are attempting to realize rental income from foreclosed properties while they wait for prices to rebound. As soon as prices do rise, lenders sell their properties.
Thus, DeKaser expects this glut of inventories – ready to be unloaded whenever prices rise – to prevent real estate prices from meaningfully appreciating over the next few years.
DeKaser – using data from the Mortgage Bankers Association and the Commerce Department – roughly estimates the current backlog of inventories at 1 million units. This figure could potentially increase in the near future if new foreclosures pile up faster than expected.
Even if assuming that the rate of new filings for foreclosure has hit its peak, DeKaser estimates that it will take around three years for the market to bring the glut of inventories to “less onerous levels.” For inventories to return to “normal levels,” it may take 5 years or more.
Gary Shilling of A. Gary Schilling & Co. said in a Tech Ticker interview that he expects housing prices to fall 20 percent over the next three years.
Shilling’s thesis is that there is simply a glut of supply in the market, citing shadow inventory as one contributing factor. He estimates that overall, the real estate market is currently burdened with 2.1 million units in excess of “normal working levels.”
Shilling concluded his bearish thesis by saying that since the 1890s, housing prices have been essentially flat when one accounts for the larger physical size of homes and general inflation.
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“Gary Shilling of A.Gary Shilling & Co. said in a Tech Ticker interview that he expects housing prices to fall 20 percent over the next three yers.”
That’s not all he said in that interview. Go here for more:
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/suddenly-gary-shilling’s-bearishness-doesn’t-seem-so-nutty-505006.
Combo, that video is now pulled…
Okay, google-up “suddenly, gary shillings bearishness”.
I see my mistake on the link I posted; I should have left out the apostrophes.
I saw that a couple days ago and think he is on the low side. 30 percent is more likely.
I disagree that banks are being “judicious” about anything these days. They’re just being stupid. One change in executive management, one bank decides to “panic first”, and this thing is on.
“The combination of rising delinquencies, higher foreclosures, more housing inventories, increasing interest rates on many mortgages and greatly reduced availability of mortgages due to limited liquidity is creating what we call a near-perfect storm for housing.”
Kerry Killinger, CEO Washington Mutual, September 10, 2007
This near-perfect storm for housing is a near-perfect storm for the value of the associated morgages held by banks.
Poof goes the bank’s capital. Poof goes the banks.
I wish the banksters would go poof as well…
Lol. Many of them are well on their way.
As the number of banks shrink the number of bankers will also shrink.
unfortunately. what is happening, at least in our little corner here in san diego, is opposite of those event. keep on dreaming.
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* June 17, 2010, 9:55 AM ET
Shadow Problem: Home Price Declines May Land in Cities That Largely Avoided Them
By Nick Timiraos
Housing markets that have escaped the brunt of home-price downturns may not be home free.
A new report shows that the “shadow inventory” of homes, with delinquent mortgages that have yet to go through the foreclosure process, is growing fastest in areas that have so far avoided the biggest home-price declines, according to a report by ratings agency Standard & Poor’s.
Mortgage companies could be forced to reduce their prices on these foreclosued homes as they work through that supply, and as more of those homes sell, that could continue to put pressure on prices. At the top of the list: the New York City area, where at the current rate it would take 103 months to clear the shadow inventory of loans that are more than 90 days delinquent or in foreclosure. That’s nearly 3.5 times the national average.
“The big problem of course in the New York metro area is that we have not had the re-pricing that the West Coast has had,” says Daniel Alpert, managing partner at Westwood Capital LLC, an investment fund. “This is very similar to what happened in the early 90s where the crisis moved regionally from one area to another.”
After the New York region, Miami has the largest backlog with a 62-month supply. But unlike New York, Miami’s shadow inventory has fallen from its March 2008 peak of 129 months. New York’s backlog has held at more than 100 months since early 2008.
Indeed, cities that avoided the worst of the housing downturn so far—and which have seen fewer distressed sales—are now seeing a bigger increase in shadow inventory, as prices adjust in some of those late-to-the-party markets. Phoenix and Las Vegas, which have had the sharpest price corrections, also have among the lowest levels of shadow supply, at 18.5 and 21.4 months, respectively.
The biggest increase in shadow inventory came in Dallas, which had a 43-month supply, up from 19 months in September 2008. Other cities with big increases in recent months include Atlanta, Boston, Denver and Charlotte. Shadow inventory has remained elevated, but hasn’t increased much, in both Seattle and Portland.
Nationally, foreclosure timelines have swelled over the past two years as lenders deal with rising piles of delinquent loans and as they are under pressure to modify those loans and avoid foreclosures. But so-called “judicial” states that require banks to get a court order in order to foreclose, including New York, New Jersey and Florida, have seen foreclosure timelines grow even larger.
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* June 16, 2010, 11:16 AM ET
Home-Buyer Psychology Changes, Fuels Rental Market
By Dawn Wotapka
As the housing downturn drags on and on, (today comes news that starts dove 17% in May) the apartment sector is picking up. As I write in today’s Journal, some of the nation’s largest apartment-building landlords are reporting an end to rent declines.
The main reason is demand: The first four months of this year saw the strongest apartment demand in a decade. “It’s a much more bullish sign than anticipated,” Hessam Nadji, managing director of Marcus & Millichap, tells Developments.
With layoffs no longer dominating the headlines those who have kept their jobs or who found new ones are more likely to ink leases. Renters who bunked with roommates during the crash - and are probably tired of them by now - are striking out on their own, while others are upgrading from that bargain-priced unit to one with amenities. Meanwhile, the jobs market doesn’t look that great. The newly employed may be hesitant to commit to a 30-year-fixed mortgage, no matter how low rates are.
Plus, now that the first-time home-buyer tax credit is history, fewer renters are exiting for homeownership, companies report. Some tenants are even sticking around by choice, aware they don’t have to worry about their home’s plunging value or fear owing more than their house is worth. They can “wait out the turbulence in the single-family market,” says Jeffrey Friedman, chief executive of Associated Estates Realty Corp., an Ohio-based apartment landlord.
David Neithercut, chief executive of Equity Residential, the nation’s largest landlord, has noticed this “psychology change” in consumers.
There is “a change in one’s thought process about the benefits or wisdom of owning a single-family home,” he said at a recent industry conference. “There is no one in this room who doesn’t know someone who is upside down in a house or whose parents can’t sell the home to move to Florida or … know someone who can’t sell their house and move to another community to take a new job opportunity.”
Without stable, decent paying jobs, home ownership will go back to just being a dream for the majority of Americans.
But when cost of renting gets higher than PITI and maintenance, those who are sitting on cash and gold will start buying houses with no loans. I have a watch on zillow on three houses within a mile of where I am typing this. I can see justification of thirty percent more price declines in each. Neil, can I have some of that popcorn?
you and neil will probably run out of popcorn before that happens
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* June 16, 2010, 6:22 PM ET
Delisting Fannie, Freddie: Clearing the Path for Change
By Nick Timiraos
Developments has spilled plenty of ink about what’s going to happen to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in the future, but we haven’t focused much on the fact that these companies still have shareholders and are still traded on the New York Stock Exchange.
One reason for the oversight: The companies’ stock probably isn’t worth anything.
Need some proof? On Wednesday, the companies’ federal regulator said it had ordered the companies to delist their shares from the New York Stock Exchange. Fannie Mae’s share price has stayed below $1 since May 19, which meant the company was at risk of being delisted anyway.
The move should remove lingering doubts about whether these are independent companies that have any residual value. Yes, they’re still going to be registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission. And yes, they’re still going to be traded over-the-counter at the NYSE.
But the Federal Housing Finance Agency decided it wasn’t worth taking the steps necessary to avoid the delisting—by submitting a plan to bring the share price above $1—because it wasn’t clear that such a plan would work, or that it would even be in the interest of shareholders and the government to do so.
Many analysts for months have maintained that the companies’ shares aren’t worth anything because Fannie and Freddie have run up such spectacular losses as a result of the housing bust. To become profitable again, the companies would have to stop losing money and pay back the $145 billion that they’ve taken in government aid just to get back to a break-even point. From there they’d have to recapitalize themselves before shareholders could see any gains.
Given that the companies’ circumstances haven’t changed much, “it somewhat raises the question why it wasn’t done earlier,” says Jim Vogel, an analyst at FTN Financial.
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Authorities reveal mortgage fraud crackdown, 485 arrests.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. authorities have charged 1,215 people in hundreds of mortgage fraud cases that resulted in estimated losses of $2.3 billion, top Obama administration officials said on Thursday, unveiling a crackdown after the housing market collapse.
The administration has been under pressure to root out mortgage fraud and improve oversight of the housing market after the housing bubble touched off a global economic slide and led to a cascade of home foreclosures in the United States.
Over the last three-and-a-half months, authorities have made 485 arrests in the fraud cases, obtained 336 individual convictions and recovered more than $147 million, the Justice Department said.
Something tells me these 485 mortgage fraudsters represent the smallest tip of the iceberg. The scope of the mortgage fraud problem makes it a case of “too big to jail.”
Me. I’ve been telling everyone this.
The FBI was directly ordered to concentrate its resources on the War Terra after it made its report back around 2002 that mortgage fraud was rising fast.
Remember how long it took to stop Madoff?
And it isn’t just mortgage fraud. All the consumer watchdog agencies were gutted (lack of funding and staffed by GOP sock puppets) during the Bush admin.
All the consumer watchdog agencies were gutted (lack of funding and staffed by GOP sock puppets) during the Bush admin.
Where’s the proof? I just read a CATO report that said the regulatory spending went up by 31% and regulatory staffing went up by 42% in Bush’s 8 yrs.
A libertarian think tank?
Proof? Anti freeze toothpaste? Increase in salmonella in the food industry? SEC lapdog? Lead painted kids toys? Rocket fuel in baby formula?
So if there was in an increase in funding and staffing, just what the hell were they doing? They certainly weren’t doing their jobs.
Now Homeland Security, on the other hand, certainly received a lot of funding.
Since nobody stays in a home long enough to pay off a 30-year mortgage any more, this is simply a scam device to inflate home prices and give Megabank, Inc a rationale for charging an interest rate in excess of what is appropriate for a five-year loan. The extended example I posted here a couple of days back demonstrates that after five years, a large share of mortgage payments (e.g. 76 percent in the scenario I explored) go to the bank as interest, while only a small share (24 percent in my example) go to paying off principle. Many who bought in 2006 will discover that more than 100% of their principle payments have been negated by declines in housing market value.
Most financial innovations are best interpreted as scams to help Megabank, Inc separate American Main Street households from their wealth; the 30-year mortgage is a fine example of this.
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* June 14, 2010, 12:54 PM ET
Radical Ideas From a Federal Housing Bureaucrat
By James R. Hagerty
As the chief economist of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, Patrick Lawler is usually confined in his public remarks to discussing such matters as the seasonal adjustment of home-price indexes. So I wasn’t expecting much excitement when Mr. Lawler rose to speak last week during a panel discussion at a housing-policy conference hosted by the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland.
It turns out, however, that Mr. Lawler has been quietly pondering some radical notions about how the U.S. might reorder its housing policies–insights acquired during more than 20 years as a regulator and Senate banking committee staff economist.
Allotted only about 10 minutes to share his vision, Mr. Lawler–who is no relation to Tom Lawler, another provocative housing economist we often quote–first made the obligatory statement that he was expressing his own views and not those of his federal agency. Yeah, right, I thought, and reached for my triple espresso.
But then Mr. Lawler launched a frontal assault on the most sacred element in U.S. housing-policy dogma: the 30-year fixed-rate mortgage loan, providing the right to refinance at any time, with no prepayment penalty. If more members of the audience had been fully awake at this moment, I feel sure that their gasps would have been audible.
Now, Americans are very attached to their 30-year fixed-rate freely prepayable mortgages. They like not having to fuss about the possibility of 28% interest rates in 2032, even though most of us will move or die long before then. They love to refinance every time rates drop and then brag to their neighbors about how much they are saving per month.
What they don’t stop to realize often enough is that they are paying a very large price for that privilege– twice.
In the first place, mortgage rates are higher than they otherwise would be. That’s because lenders and mortgage investors must build in protection for the risk that we will prepay and stick them with a lower yield than they were anticipating. Mr. Lawler estimates that Americans pay at least an extra 0.25 to 0.50 percentage point in rates because of this option to prepay without penalty. They also pay another premium-–sometimes a percentage point or two–for having a long-term fixed rate. Over 30 years, that translates into some real money, but no one ever mentions that when bragging to the neighbor.
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But can’t the mortgagor and mortgagee negotiate the terms of the mortgage? It’s not like there’s a law telling us all what type of mortgage to get. As a matter of fact, the ARM principle is a big part of what caused this bigass “meltdown”, right?
“It’s not like there’s a law telling us all what type of mortgage to get.”
I’ve been wondering the same. I am thinking of designing my own mortgage and shopping around for a lender willing to make me a loan on my own terms. Does anyone have any suggestions about whether this strategy is feasible?
Yeah, don’t hold your breath.
What prevented many people from getting a fair loan was outright collusion in the lending industry. Many people with excellent credit were told to take it (the lenders deal) or leave it in what they were offered.
“Help! I’m shrinking, I’m shrinking…”
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* June 14, 2010, 5:58 PM ET
New Homes Getting Smaller…Smaller
By Dawn Wotapka
America’s love affair with McMansions continues to wane: The size of new single-family homes completed last year dipped to an average 2,438 square feet, according to the National Association of Home Builders trade group, which analyzed Census data.
The downsizing ends an expansion that spanned nearly three decades: The average home sized peaked at 2,521 square feet in 2007. It came in flat in 2008 and fell in 2009 as builders built smaller, less ornate homes priced lower to compete with foreclosures.
More of these smaller homes are single story. Last year, the share of single-family homes with one story increased to 47%. As America’s passion for supersized showpieces dragged on, the proportion of one-story homes had declined for more than three decades, hitting a low of 43% in 2006 and 2007.
The new generation of homes has fewer bedrooms: Just 34% of last year’s homes had four or more bedrooms. Between 2005 and 2009 - years that include the building boom - the proportion of homes with three bedrooms jumped from 49% to 53%.
Fewer bedrooms means fewer bathrooms. The percentage of homes with three or more bathrooms came in at 24% last year, down from a peak of 28% in both 2007 and 2008.
Home sizes have fallen before, but this time the change might stick around for some time.
“We also saw a decline in the size of new homes when the economy lapsed into recession in the early 1980s,” says David Crowe, the NAHB’s chief economist. “The decline of the early 1980s turned out to be temporary, but this time the decline is related to phenomena such as an increased share of first-time home buyers, a desire to keep energy costs down, smaller amounts of equity in existing homes to roll into the next home, tighter credit standards and less focus on the investment component of buying a home.”
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Is anyone interested in a San Diego luxury home in the $4m+ price range? There are currently 267 of them on the MLS (at least on RedFin dot com’s version thereof) with an average list price of $8.4m and an aggregate value according to sellers’ list prices north of $2.24 billion. Too bad there is such an overhang of multi-million dollar properties with few millionaires around to buy them.
Sure, I’ll take two.
OH, you meant I had to pay for them.
No, you don’t have to pay for them; you simply need to get someone to loan you the money to get you into one of them. After that point, the choice is completely yours whether to keep paying or not.
Reality is hard, but fantasy is easy — even a three-year-old can do it!
* ESSAY
* JUNE 19, 2010
The Benefits of the Bust
The financial crisis is leading to a new model of capitalism; the inadequacy of modern economics
By ANATOLE KALETSKY
An economist, a chemist and a physicist are marooned on a desert island. Their only food is a can of beans, but they have no can opener. What are they to do? The physicist says: “Let’s try and focus the tropical sun onto the lid—it might melt a hole.” “No,” says the chemist. “We should first pour saltwater on the lid—maybe that will rust it.” The economist interrupts: “You’re wasting time with all these complicated ideas. Let’s just assume a can opener.”
This little joke, a favorite among economists, tells us more about the causes and consequences of the 2007-09 crisis than any number of ministerial speeches, Wall Street research reports and central bank monographs. The propensity of modern economic theory for unjustified and oversimplified assumptions allowed politicians, regulators and bankers to create for themselves the imaginary world of market fundamentalist ideology, in which financial stability is automatic, involuntary unemployment is impossible and efficient, omniscient markets can solve all economic problems, if only the government will stand aside.
In the new economy emerging from the financial crisis, the self-serving assumptions of efficient, self-stabilizing markets have been discredited, but something will have to be put in their place. Since the 18th century, each transformation of the capitalist system has coincided with a transformed understanding of economics—Smith and Ricardo from 1780 to 1820; the marginalist revolution of Mill, Jevons and Walras in the 1870s; Keynes in the 1930s; and Friedman in the 1970s. The new model of capitalism will also have to build on new economic concepts—and the events that followed the collapse of Lehman Brothers must surely provoke a revolution in economic thought.
The greatest embarrassment for academic economics in the 2007-2009 crisis was not the failure to predict the crisis but the failure to provide any useful guidance for politicians and central bankers after the crisis struck. The failure of analysis was much more damning than the failure of prediction because economics has never seriously claimed to be a predictive science. Keynes never published an economic forecast, and neither did Hayek, Ricardo, or Adam Smith. What economics did claim to offer was a set of analytical tools to explain reality and suggest sensible responses to unexpected events. It was in this respect that contemporary economics revealed its inadequacy.
Although the academic recommendations from the Left and the Right differed in almost every particular, including on stimulus spending, they had one striking feature in common—a detachment from reality that made them completely useless for all practical purposes.
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Adapted from “Capitalism 4.0: The Birth of a New Economy in the Aftermath of Crisis” by Anatole Kaletsky, to be published Sunday by Public Affairs, a member of the Perseus Books Group. Copyright © 2010 by Anatole Kaletsky.
And that “detachment” almost brought us to the brink of WW3 and has certainly ruined millions of live permanently.
This disconnected dunce is out at a regatta while Barry plays golf.
Gulf residents outraged by BP CEO’s yacht outing.
VENICE, La. (AP) - Just when it seemed Gulf residents couldn’t get any more outraged about the massive oil spill fouling their coastline, word came Saturday that BP’s CEO was taking time off to attend a glitzy yacht race in England.
Tony Hayward’s latest public relations gaffe didn’t sit well with people in the U.S. who have seen their livelihoods ruined by the massive two-month oil spill.
“Man, that ain’t right. None of us can even go out fishing, and he’s at the yacht races,” said Bobby Pitre, 33, who runs a tattoo shop in Larose, La. “I wish we could get a day off from the oil, too.”
As social networking sites like Twitter and Facebook lit up with anger, BP spokespeople rushed to defend Hayward, who has drawn withering criticism as the public face of his company’s halting efforts to stop the worst oil spill in U.S. history.
Robert Wine, a BP spokesman at the company’s Houston headquarters, said it’s the first break Hayward has had since the Deepwater Horizon rig exploded April 20, killing 11 workers and setting off the undersea gusher.
Huge Tax Error Costs $5 Million
HAUPPAUGE, N.Y. - Long Island officials say a mammoth error in a single state tax return is costing Suffolk County $5 million in sales tax revenue.
County budget officials said the taxpayer listed that $10 million in sales tax was owed on out-of-state Internet purchases.
The county’s chief budget aide, Connie Corso, said the taxpayer had meant to write $1,000.
County budget aides say the $10 million figure should have raised a red flag because the taxpayer would have had to spend $116 million in purchases.
The state Department of Taxation and Finance said it could not immediately comment on how the mistake was overlooked and how it was discovered.
The error reduced first-quarter tax receipts by nearly half.
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