July 13, 2010

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Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 02:50:59

Small companies denied credit as big firms thrive
Small businesses struggle to get loans while larger companies boost earnings and pile up cash

WASHINGTON (AP) — Big companies are building up cash and are expected to report strong earnings starting this week. Not so for small businesses that can’t get loans — or hire freely until they do.

The gap helps explain why the economic rebound isn’t stronger and could even stall. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke stepped up pressure Monday on banks to break the logjam and lend more to smaller firms, which employ at least half of American workers.

Small business owners are relying on personal credit cards or raiding retirement accounts to stay afloat, the Fed chairman said.

Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 03:29:18

According to many “experts” we should be seeing many better than expected big corporation earnings. On the road to recovery, now if we can just kick the housing market back into gear we’ll be better off than ever.

Comment by Rental Watch
2010-07-13 13:49:27

I also read a place where one of the ways big companies were keeping earnings up were by keeping skeleton crews and putting off deferred cost items (capital expenditures, etc.).

It will be a good day when these companies need to spend some of their cash hoard into the economy in order to keep top line growth. This will be a nice driver of jobs in the private sector (provided the money stays in the US).

 
 
Comment by Eddie
2010-07-13 04:50:44

That’s how it works in Europe, Japan and Canada. And that is what made the US different (and better) for decades. No megacorp was safe from the guy tinkering in the garage with a better mouse product. And that’s why Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, ebay were started in the US and not in Japan or France or Canada. Outside of the US they would have been crushed like ants by the IBMs of the world. And no bank would have provided any funding to expand and gain market share.

Those days are gone unfortunately. We have become France/Germany. 10% unemployment is the new norm. Goodle and Goldman Sachs donate millions to Obama, Goldman Sachs and Google get laws written to favor what it does. And part of that is screwing the guy in the basement tinkering with the new search engine.

The days of innovation are over. But I’m not worried. Obama will create millions of jobs caulking windows and installing solar panels on roof tops.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 08:29:40

The days of innovation are over. But I’m not worried. Obama will create millions of jobs caulking windows and installing solar panels on roof tops.

This past Sunday, I worked as a volunteer for Teaching and Helping’s Green Retrofit Co-op.

We sealed leaks in a house that appeared to be around 60 years old. And it had a lot of leaks, let me tell you.

By using caulk and foam filler (brand name is Great Stuff), we were able to achieve a 35% reduction in leakage. This was verified by the co-op’s home energy auditor, who had a negative pressure blower that fit into the back door. He also had some other cool gear, and heck if I can remember what all of it was.

Any-hoo, this green jobs thing looks like it could work well for creating entry-level jobs. You could start out as a caulker and move up to job supervisor. Or you could start out as an installer of solar systems, then move up to designing them.

Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-07-13 10:25:49

could start out as a caulker and move up to job supervisor.”

Then unionize, obtain the best health benefits money can buy along with a pension.

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Comment by Doghouse Riley
2010-07-13 11:00:54

Hey Slim,

Re this “green jobs thing”…..

There’s a chap by the name of Bastiat at the door. He’s got this glazier he wants you to meet.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-13 08:59:06

Yes Eddie, Put dem welfare recipients to work doing manual labor…even those with college degrees who never worked outside a day in their lives.

lets put accounting electrical computer skilled people to work caulking windows for food stamps…

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 09:36:02

That’s far better than letting them sit on their asses leeching money from those of us who work for a living.

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Comment by exeter
2010-07-13 09:41:02

Dam dem dar lay-zee wellfair loozers! Day cawzd all our prablims!

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Comment by dude
2010-07-14 10:34:22

It is refreshing to see you’ve finally gained understanding ex, though you may want to run spell check before posting.

 
 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-07-13 10:19:20

“lets put accounting electrical computer skilled people to work caulking windows for food stamps…”

The wonderful thing about giving UI recipients something to do as opposed to paying them to do nothing is that it reduces FRAUD in the system.

Why do I say this? Well, I was chatting last night with a friend who got laid off a few weeks ago. He has worked in construction for many years, and this is the first time he has EVER drawn UI (so he’s definitely not accustomed to working the system).

And even he said that he’s getting called up and offered cash jobs on the side. (No comment on whether he is taking them.)

It would be hard for the average joe to cheat the system by drawing cash jobs if their days are full with some sort of useful work, even if it is skilled people doing unskilled labor.

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Comment by packman
2010-07-13 10:25:46

Yes Eddie, Put dem welfare recipients to work doing manual labor…even those with college degrees who never worked outside a day in their lives.

lets put accounting electrical computer skilled people to work caulking windows for food stamps…

I think Eddie was being facetious.

I’m actually vary much in favor of putting such people outside working - however as driven by actual market demand for such jobs, not by government intervention. Refusing to work outside because you have a degree is extremely pretentious.

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Comment by measton
2010-07-13 11:55:36

I’m actually vary much in favor of putting such people outside working - however as driven by actual market demand for such jobs, not by government intervention. Refusing to work outside because you have a degree is extremely pretentious.

What if there is no market demand? Then what? You have 3 choices.

1. Do nothing and let extreme poverty envolope America with all the crime social unrest and decrease in living standards even for those with jobs that will go with it.

2. Welfare and Unemployment - ie pay people to sit on their can and do nothing.

3. Put them to work doing something usefull or at the very least put them to work doing something.

I vote for #3. I’d get rid of #2 completely.
Caulking windows for the elderly is a great idea. Cheap, creates a job and reduces our dependance on foreign oil plus saves are energy supplies for other tasks. Lower energy prices means business has more money to hire and goods are more affordable. The elderly person will have more money to spend on other things as well, possibly creating more jobs. Tax credits for this type of stuff is a great idea too. Stimulates private sector jobs.

 
Comment by packman
2010-07-13 12:44:55

4. Do nothing and let the person obtain a skill set that’s in demand, and get a job performing said skill set.

Amazing how socialists always seem to forget that option.

 
Comment by knockwurst
2010-07-13 17:14:20

One skillset that hordes of chronically unemployed people develop is called ‘cooking meth.’

Another is called ‘mugging people.’

And, if you do nothing long enough, you might see the ’social unrest/ uprising’ skillset emerge.

Capitalists always seem to forget this.

 
Comment by packman
2010-07-14 06:02:55

You’re confusing cause and effect.

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-07-13 10:44:36

“….even those with college degrees who never worked outside a day in their lives.”

No time to learn like the present!

Back in the 70s my first boyfriend whose Dad owned a huge portion of the real estate in our relatively large town went to work in construction. He roofed, did repairs on the apts Dad owned including rebuilding stairs, roofing, window trade-outs and the really nasty one: insulation! I think it was fair to say his Dad considered those abilities part of being a man. They certainly could have hired non-family members or even had guys on Dad’s payroll take care of it.

You gotta wonder how much information my generation turned their back on when they refused to pass these skills on. In 2006, my neighbor hired people to do his roof for $15k and my husband did our larger roof with a larger more complex garage roofline for $3k even w/the more expensive shingles. It’s not just how much you make. It’s also what you don’t spend. No skill is a waste of time especially when you’re sitting at home collecting.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 11:07:30

Got a book for everyone to read. College educated engineer gets bored with office job and goes into construction work.

I like this one so much that I just wrote the author a fan letter.

 
Comment by rms
2010-07-13 11:14:47

“You gotta wonder how much information my generation turned their back on when they refused to pass these skills on. In 2006, my neighbor hired people to do his roof for $15k and my husband did our larger roof with a larger more complex garage roofline for $3k even w/the more expensive shingles. It’s not just how much you make. It’s also what you don’t spend. No skill is a waste of time especially when you’re sitting at home collecting.”

+1 Well said, CarrieAnn.

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-07-13 12:24:27

“my generation turned their back on when they refused to pass these skills on”

I’m confused. Your generation “refused” to pass these skills on?

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-07-13 13:00:07

I have young kids but my generation has adult kids and are grandparents. Is that where the confusion lies?

In hopes of clarifying the use of the word “refused”: I believe I may have pointed out before my last nighborhood where the neighbors made fun of us for doing our own work. OMG, people in that town are supposed to hire! Who the heck allowed sweat-ers in? LOL

Many of these people came from blue collar families just one generation back but well I don’t know for sure but it almost seems like they thought they’d escaped something bad and never wanted to be associted with that again. Kind of like in the early 20th century when foreigners would come over and refuse to teach their children their former language. My current district refuses to support a BOCES program. The superintendent told our plumber “our kids don’t do BOCES programs”. Yup, the whole darn town is too good for manual labor. The plumbers been wondering who’s going to take over his business.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 14:01:32

The plumbers been wondering who’s going to take over his business.

Well, howzabout if they do a little bit of guerrilla marketing like this guy is?

Blue Collar and Proud of It

BTW, his book’s a fun read. Highly recommended by your HBB Librarian.

 
Comment by a_brewer
2010-07-13 16:03:27

hi CarrieAnn, skills? Roofing a house and other such repairs don’t require skills, there’s nothing to pass on from one generation to the next. It’s manual labor, it’ll break your back (literally) if you do it wrong, but all it requires is drive and the ability to think clearly. Anybody today would be better off spending their energy, drive, and clear thinking developing a skill set marketable and suitably compensated in today’s environment.

 
 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2010-07-13 13:57:27

What you’re forgetting is that these tech companies are spending their money on buying smaller start-ups. They don’t always develop the new technology in house. So, while they work to protect their own position politically, at the same time, by buying start-up companies, they provide an exit to some successful start-ups who find no exit in the public markets.

Some of these tech companies also pump money into start-ups via venture funding of private companies. Google “Intel Capital”. From their website, since 1991, they have invested $9B in 1,000 different companies. Google “Google Ventures”, they have recently started doing the same thing.

As part of the use for their capital, they are investing money in the little guy tinkering in his basement (although if the tinkerer would threaten their core business, they would likely just buy his tech, not take the risk on the political process).

 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-07-13 23:40:25

Get ready. The Obama taxes are due to kick in on Jan 1. That will kill any recovery. Housing is still in the dumps and will go down another 25%. No recovery until 2014 if at that.

 
 
Comment by combotechie
2010-07-13 05:17:07

This is one way the big and strong guys gets bigger and stronger. The big and strong guys get to survive because they can get survival money when the little and weak guys can’t. Eventualy the big and strong will get to use this money to buy up the assets of the floundering little and weak for pennies on the dollar, PLUS - since the big and strong guys will be the only ones still in business - they will get to round up the customers the little and weak guys used to have.

This is what recessions do, they cull the small and weak from the herd. After the recession is done with what remains are the big and the strong.

Comment by combotechie
2010-07-13 05:27:07

Notice I said big AND strong; Big doesn’t necessairly mean strong. Big and strong need to go together in order for this to happen.

In the case of recessions the word “strong” means strong balance sheets, which means, in part, lots of cash and little debt.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 06:46:45

Why does a firm need to be strong to qualify for too-big-to-fail cash infusions? It seems the too-big-to-fail Wall Street banks that were most efficient on throwing money down the mortgage securitization rat hole are the ones that scored billions and billions of bail to help them stay afloat when most of the U.S. economy was on the verge of sinking.

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Comment by packman
2010-07-13 06:50:41

You’re missing two factors:

- Smartness
- Political connectivity

Though smartness usually goes hand-in-hand with strongness, i.e. the smarter companies had better balance sheets. However there are lots of other companies that were very weak, in terms of balance sheets, yet remain in place due to their government propping. Citi, GM, etc. These are companies that should have been culled from the herd, but weren’t due to political connectivity.

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Comment by pressboardbox
2010-07-13 05:43:42

Reminds me of how “Cash-4-Clunkerz” helped the big, failed car companies/dealers while it hurt the small responsible mom and pops who couldn’t give a car away during the program. Much the same as TARP helping large TBTF banks while responsible-lending regionals were on there own and unable to compete. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong!!!

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 06:44:29

“The big and strong guys get to survive because they can get survival money when the little and weak guys can’t.”

It certainly helps to attain ‘too-big-to-fail’ status, as then if it appears failure is imminent, you are guaranteed to receive a large cash infusion to keep you afloat.

Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-07-13 07:02:13

The State as Force Multiplication for the Rich

YouTube dot com

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-13 05:19:26

This has to be the worst thing the fed did was to bail out AIG and not CIT…

It was CIT small business and maritime financing that froze ( hence the baltic index dropping like a rock) and they put them on the back burner…what a gawd awful mistake

Comment by robin
2010-07-14 01:52:42

Agree NYC. Never understood why AIG was TBTF. Who were they liable for?

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-14 06:25:26

Goldman saks… foreign banks…all had the CDO’s derivatives lots of $$$ would have been lost but they made the stupid bets but it was just accounting problems I don’t think many jobs would have been lost…a lot of the NYC Bear Sterns people got jobs in Chicago and Boston

Mains street did nothing wrong and when credit froze…who got hurt?

CIT one of their businesses was of giving Lines of Credit to shippers so they would ship products and get paid when it was delivered…..so when it froze shipping stopped…

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 06:00:35

IMHO the real problem is that even with all the efforts to pump more money into the system, there’s assurance whatsoever that the system will allocate that money to productive uses. Much of that money during the runup was funneled into consumer debt, mortgages, and RE development. I’m not as all sure why anybody thinks that Wall Street has suddenly become a better judge of long term investments.

Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 07:04:43

“suddenly become a better judge of long term investments” LOL!

Jim A ( I’m not sure ‘anyone’ is buying into that whatsoever! )

Over the last few days ( and figuring out the consumer is beyond my scope of responsibility? ) but I’ve really struggled w/ the major video chains going under.

We talk about big & strong but if that doctrine were 100% bulletproof, how was NetFlix even allowed to get a foot in the door? And, as I mentioned yesterday, would this be a perfect window to re-start the M & P video store? Just thinking out loud.

Comment by packman
2010-07-13 07:18:18

Perhaps now that leather production technology has improved it would also be a great time to start up a new buggy whip business?

;)

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Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 07:34:15

packman,

LOL. Yeah, my assessment as well. The reason I find it an interesting case study, is that our sdmall town just outside Salem, OR was -due- to have Hollywood Video as an anchor ten. in our retail hub. ( It never materialized! )

Our local “American Family Video” was literally having a Going Out Of Business Sale.., and then, took the sign down and went about their business? They are -still- there and HV is the one liquidating their stores!

You have to imagine this identical scenario is playing out from coast to coast.

 
 
Comment by polly
2010-07-13 07:30:48

Netflix got in the door because they saw that the shift to DVD’s made using the post office to deliver “videos” cost effective, especially if you could locate your warehouses close to post office distribution centers so that turn around was very quick. If he post office starts cutting way back on delivery days, that might change. Fortunately for Netflix, they are already delivering content directly over the wires that go to your house. That works because enough people bought lots of high tech systems during the bubble so that they can receive their content that way. Without the bubble, many fewer people would be able to receive content that way and Netflix would be a smaller company and much more likely to suffer if the post office actually does go to 3 day a week delivery.

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Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 07:37:55

polly,

Interesting. Just the other day Arizona Slim made the observation that “If it ‘can’ be digitized ( it WILL! )” and I’ve no reason to doubt that?

You’ll notice though that all throughout the Boom/Bust that ethnic video rentals pretty much continued on as if nothing happened. If your mo. nut was $300.., how wrong could you go? Again, just marvelling at the chaos.

 
Comment by packman
2010-07-13 07:47:44

Yes.

And actually naming their business “Netflix” even though the bulk of their business is done via snail mail was a very good idea. Gives them a natural leg up as the ability to actually watch movies over the net becomes more feasible.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 07:56:00

Fortunately for Netflix, they are already delivering content directly over the wires that go to your house.

This will not be a great success if the providers insist on anti-copying restrictions.

Right now, “rent, rip, return” is the driving force behind both Netflix’ and Blockbuster’s direct-to-home rental businesses.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 08:12:34

“rent, rip, return”

( Now if we can just get an online version of NAR we’d be gettin’ somewhere? )

 
Comment by JMS
2010-07-13 08:14:02

There won’t be a need to “rip” if all content goes digital. Why waste the effort to burn a cd when you can have the content with a push of a finger. I am slowly getting rid of my movie collection. All it does is waste space.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 08:20:05

rent-rip-return…. Really? ’cause for most movies, once I’ve watched ‘em I really don’t have any reason to keep ‘em on my hard drive wasting space. I simply have zero interest in ripping them.

Another thing netflix did was realize that the losses from shipping them in envelopes rather than cases would still leave you with acceptable loss rates.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 08:21:47

If I may hop in here with a bit of news from the music industry, here’s a little trend for ya’ll to chew on:

I’m a music auditioner for KXCI-FM, the community radio station here in Tucson. As such, I have a big stack of CDs to listen to and evaluate.

I have to go down to the station to obtain and return them, and, although I do enjoy visiting the folks at KXCI, there are times when I can’t get there easily. Y’know, life gets in the way.

The trend that’s coming is digital downloads for stations like KXCI. We’ll be able to download, audition, then make the airplay decisions from there. I’m looking forward to this.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-13 09:06:13

Sorry Slim…. I value quality…I still have a couple of thousands or records and well over 2500 cd’s, if I could download the FULL cd not just a compressed mp3 in the same amount of time..that would be fine.

I want every digital bit eg: the FULL Cd. cd’s are recorded at 1411kb/sec so a 128kb only 9% of the original file size 9 feakin percent.

and you want me to pay 99 cents a song full price for 9% of the file….no way i want the cd for that price.

Ps: That is why the record cd’s so loud….9% of the file sounds OK when you have very little dynamics (soft parts)

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 09:32:43

Hey, DJ! Top of the midday to ya.

Here’s where I think the stations are going with this: The digital download previews will be for auditioner types like me.

And, if I recommend an album to the point where the KXCI music director thinks it should go on the air (and that seldom happens, BTW), then he can request a proper CD from the band or its label.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 09:33:52

A-Slim..how typical is that really? Don’t most radio stations just use some canned list of songs? Although I did buy a CD from an unsigned band named BOINK after hearing their cover of “people who died” on a small radio station somwhere in PA.

 
Comment by The_Overdog
2010-07-13 09:45:24

Ps: That is why the record cd’s so loud….9% of the file sounds OK when you have very little dynamics (soft parts)

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This isn’t true. They record CDs loud because that’s the popular way to do it, and it has been since the early ’90s, before mp3s were popular.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-13 10:01:16

Actually it a little of both, the recording schools like Full sail started hiring teachers who thought it was a neat idea to jack up the sound,Use the cd range.. and then when when tests showed louder meant you could trow away more of the digital file without the average joe jane really hearing any difference then It became the new standard.

here is a great article on this:

http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/dynamicdeath.htm

and of course Ricky Martins livin la vida loca was made with pro tools at 100% literally the whole song

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 10:06:36

There won’t be a need to “rip” if all content goes digital. Why waste the effort to burn a cd when you can have the content with a push of a finger.

That’s a price/preference issue. I don’t want to pay 4.99 to d/l a movie from some entity who reserves the right to erase it if I don’t watch it on their time schedule or only watch it on a device of their choice. It also looks like you are conflating “rip” with “burn”. I am not interested in burning DVDs. I’m just slowly filling up external hard drives.

I am slowly getting rid of my movie collection. All it does is waste space.

With 2T disk drives going for under $100, that “wasted space” is getting smaller all the time.

I found out years ago, that I can get sucked into watching a movie I’ve seen before quite easily - again personal preference - so I keep ‘em if I like ‘em.

(I also like to play with audio samples out of iconic movies.)

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 10:19:14

A-Slim..how typical is that really? Don’t most radio stations just use some canned list of songs?

KXCI doesn’t operate that way. Our playlist consists of hundreds, if not thousands, of different songs over the course of a week. Check us out — you’ll enjoy the difference!

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-07-13 10:23:45

“and you want me to pay 99 cents a song full price for 9% of the file….no way i want the cd for that price.”

EXACTLY, dj! Give me the full fidelity of the CD, and I’ll think about buying digital. Otherwise, I’m better off buying the CD and ripping it lossless myself for my master copy, and then down-converting other lower-fidelity copies for portability.

 
Comment by Michael Fink
2010-07-13 10:45:58

The solution to this problem (low fidelity) is very simple. Make the 99c per song the purchase of the COPYRIGHT, not the delivery medium. After purchase, you should be able to download it at cell phone resolution (32Kb/s or so) on up to FLAC (100% lossless). And download it as many times as you want, to any device you may own. Again, is the COPYRIGHT your buying, not the delivery mechanism (although, this seems very difficult to get through the head of the music industry; they like to sell an “item”, not a copyright).

I have a disk from MSFT with 10K+ of software on it. I have a whole pack of disks that I get from them occasionally with 100K+ of software on it. The disk isn’t the thing I’m paying for (if I lose it, I can just download it again from the MSDN site), it’s the RIGHT TO USE that software that I’m paying for. Once the movie COs realize this; then (maybe) they will start to identify and refine a good business model.

I’m also a “rip and return” guy. I’ve had a NFLX sub forever, and probably will never let it lapse. Honesly, if I did let it lapse, it would only be because ripping Blu-Ray is a PITA! It’s easier to just get the files from the Internet in 720 or 1080P already ripped. It’s the copy protection (and time to compress) BD that keeps me from wanting to upgrade (and pay more) my NFLX sub to the next level.

Kind of ironic, huh?

And yes, digitial download is the way of the future. 15 years from now, the idea of a “disk” with music/movies on it will seem as quaint as a cassette tape for computer data storage. BluRay is the last physical format that will ever exist for movie storage; it was obsolete the second it was released. 50G/disk (at 20 bucks a pop)? That’s 250G for 100 dollars. You can get a HDD that’s almost 10X that size for about the same cost. Next year, you’ll be able to get one that’s 20X that size at the same cost.

NFLX is a great business model; instead of buying 1-2 movies a year, I now have a subscription that costs me ~100-150/yr. That’s 4-5X the revenue from me; and I’m sure there are plenty others who are in exactly the same situation.

The only question; can they continue to compete as the “US Mail” part of their business dies, and the digital delivery becomes their primary delivery mechanism? It’s an open question, but it will be interesting to watch.

Music companies seem to have totally missed the boat on this; I’d happily pay 5-10/mo for a service (like NFLX) that has every song ever pressed available for DL in non-DRM format. Shoot, I pay it today, just in the form of a subscription to NNTP servers. I’d be much happier to pay it to the music companies.. But they don’t seem to be able to deal with that model; and, as such, they will continue to slowly wither and die.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:05:05

Arizona Slim,

Well GOOD for you guys! I’ve often felt that R & R could have another run of 20 years -just- w/ all the B-side material FM rock radio conveniently glossed over?

I didn’t realize they had to jack up the CD’s just so you wouldn’t be left w/ the impression that the song was ‘over’ during the softer passages? Interesting ( and yet ‘another’ reason to hate them! )

If you listen carefully to Zep II ( between Moby Dick and Bring It On Home ) there’s an almost ‘electric’ interlude between the two. It gave the listener the impression that something very exciting was about to happen? For fans of the White Boy Blues, go back and listen to that on an LP and you will be amazed at how much it colors your opinion of that recording!

Also ( little known factoid ) is that Rock & Roll was actually recorded while tuned down a full step and THEN sped up to the pitch you hear on the album! In this regard it made impossible for cover bands to copy! A “three lock box” if you will. Sadly, it also meant that even when Zep played it live ( it was disappointing for THEM too! )

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:07:25

Oh.., by ‘electric’ I mean there was this unmistakable “analog hum” ( like a tube amplifier just sitting there on full vol. but w/ no input )

Yes, some of us remember when you had to “warm up” the TV before the Cubs game.

 
Comment by Chris M
2010-07-13 11:09:26

I have downloaded many $0.99 mp3s, and they sound just fine to me. It seems like having the ability to detect the alleged imperfections would be a disadvantage. Audiophiles are goofy that way.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 11:29:23

Shoot, I pay it today, just in the form of a subscription to NNTP servers.

Let’s just not go telling people about NNTP, ‘kay?

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 11:37:48

Michael Fink–Well the limiting factor isn’t storage, it’s download speed. Many people just don’t have internet connections fast enough to make downloading movies immediate.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:49:36

Jim A,

Additionally, I don’t think there’s a lot of folks our age that would want to watch an entire movie on a 17″ monitor for… 2 hours?

I realize ppl will say that ‘we’re’ simply not their target mkt. and it’s geared toward a younger crowd.., but they ‘too’ will ultimately tire of that in time.

No doubt some have figured out how to ramp that up to their bigscreen but you’re right, in the time you waited to download ( you could have slipped down to Redbox? )

 
Comment by Michael Fink
2010-07-13 12:04:31

DinOR,

The 8′ experience is, as you correctly point out, the most important thing for making these services work. I suggest you take a look at the Xbox360 with NetFlix. It’s very easy to use, and works without any computer attached at all (just Internet). It’s the “way of the future”, no doubt about it; especially as BD and other players get it integrated (some have it today).

The hardware/software is there today, and could make this a reality overnight. It’s simply a bandwidth/financial model problem. Bandwidth will solve itself (for most of the country). And the financial model…. Well, that will solve itself too; one way or another. :)

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-07-13 12:34:09

DinOR are still talking Netflix? They can buy a device to watch on TV or use WII, I think.

And..how I hate the new loud CDs. To think music used to have all those lovely open spaces. Now the mix is redlined with every conceivable sound and effect added and different players ghosted in. Meh.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 12:42:01

MF Yes I currently use my xbox, but until I upgraded from DSL to FIOS, the picture quality was virtually unwatchable. Thus my point about the limiting factor being connection rather than storage.

 
Comment by The_Overdog
2010-07-13 14:35:37

I’m pretty sure that Netflix’s strength isn’t anything more than realizing that the Post Office would subsidize a large portion of their delivery costs, something that junk mailers have realized for years.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 15:25:24

In Montana,

I’ve never cared for CD’s, period. I’m sure for a good many genres it’s just fine. Particularly those that didn’t even EXIST prior to their introduction.

But for classic rock/blues.., they’re basically worthless. In spite of what we’ve been sold. So much of what makes for Rock music ( no, not Big Hair Bands of the 80’s ) “classic” rock, is the “texture” of the backing guitars! Sorry, but they in no way translate that texture whatsoever.

It’s really ( and I’m surprised more Country fans haven’t complained? ) more of an imprecise undertaking. Those rythym guitars ( and bass ) should really “growl”. The strings have windings on them and you should hear that ( however slightly ) each time the player changes chords. It -prefaces- the bars, measures and beats. Without it, you’re basically tone deaf.

 
Comment by Mike @Petco Park
2010-07-13 20:11:48

I bought a used SAMSUNG BD-1250 blu ray player, I’ve never watch a single blu ray disc on it, I think BR is all hype compared to upscaled DVDs.

Do yourself a favor, if you haven’t bought one of these things and you like music and movies DO IT. I am listening to Pandora right now on it, Paul Desmond in surround sound reading HBB, for free.

When I’m done I will watch a movie or cable TV show on it through NetFlix, which only costs me $9 a month and they also send me movies in the mail but thats just a bonus.

I’m glad I skipped XM radio and iTunes and have this, I haven’t been this excited about something like this in a decade (first laptop).

I’m not saying you need to get the model I go, but LG looks to have something similar. If you can get a used one for $300 and need a stereo anyway get on with a network connection and content providers.

 
Comment by Mike @Petco Park
2010-07-13 20:15:16

I know some HBBers will balk at the price, but I justified it by canceling expanded cable, I save $50 a month by going to just basic cable which will easily pay for the box and I get so much more content then I could ever get with expanded cable. Not to mention you can dock you iPod in it, and the sound quality is better than anything I’ve ever owned. Just DO NOT MESS WITH THE DEFAULT AUDIO SETTINGS.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-14 06:29:24

Yeah Chris..i am goofy..i like a full sound…I also have old school audio pop and click filters and a Dbx 4 bx range expander Ill never get rid of

http://www.audioinvest.no/dbx/products/dbx4bx.htm

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I have downloaded many $0.99 mp3s, and they sound just fine to me. It seems like having the ability to detect the alleged imperfections would be a disadvantage. Audiophiles are goofy that way.

 
Comment by robin
2010-07-14 23:55:10

Anybody want a pair of EMI Studio HOME Monitors?

 
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 06:45:30

Big companies are building up cash and are expected to report strong earnings starting this week. Not so for small businesses that can’t get loans — or hire freely until they do.

And Main St. continues to burn to the ground. Of course no Main St. == no Recovery as the bulk of those “tight wad” consumers work or used to work on Main St.

But what does Corporate America care? As long as they are profitable unemployment could be 50% and it wouldn’t matter to them one bit. They’ll continue to operate and grow overseas.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 09:04:16

“But what does Corporate America care? As long as they are profitable unemployment could be 50% and it wouldn’t matter to them one bit.” :-)

Amen

Monsanto: We know what we’re doing / it’s healthy / trust us

Good business model… or… Capitalistic “Financial Innovation” ?

“With Monsanto’s terminator technology, they will sell seeds to farmers to plant crops. But these seeds have been genetically-engineered so that when the crops are harvested, all new seeds from these crops are sterile (e.g., dead, unusable). This forces farmers to pay Monsanto every year for new seeds if they want to grow their crops.”

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 11:19:51

On the other hand, without guaranteeing sterile seeds, you’ll get the left-wing nut jobs trying to ban any genetically modified seeds as evil bioterrorism.

Never mind that virtually every crop we plant had been modified over countless generations.

Now, both sides have a point. Wildly productive crop seed could become rampant ‘weeds’ to an ecosystem that doesn’t have any fauna that will eat said crop. However, drought and pest resistance drives down food production costs and more importantly, water\pesticide inputs, which is extremely helpful for the environment.

To finish, Monsanto is a terrible, greedy company. That I won’t dispute.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 11:45:20

The furor over geneticly engineered crops is interesting. The actual hazard is the unforseen ecological consequences of introducing heretfore unknown varieties. Even though many of these varieties seem like good ideas now, so did the introduction of rabbits to Australia, and kudzu to the US. It’s just really difficult to predict the effect upon the ecology.

But the main thing that most people worry about is that eating foods from these crops will be somehow harmful. This is largely a baseless fear, but since it has the potential to affect people DIRECTLY, this is what most people worry about.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 12:33:56

The furor over geneticly engineered crops is interesting.

My favorite part is the invention of the word “Frankenfood”

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 12:48:50

Yah, the people worried about eating them are the ones that make my eyes roll.

As for invasive species, the sterile seeds solve this, but immediately gets called “corporate greed.” Not to say that greed isn’t the reason behind it, but you’re pretty much d-mned if you do, d-mned if you don’t in that space.

 
 
Comment by cactus
2010-07-13 12:46:48

all new seeds from these crops are sterile (e.g., dead, unusable). This forces farmers to pay Monsanto every year for new seeds if they want to grow their crops.”

I wonder if the pollen from these plants will spread this sterile feature to all like crops ??

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Comment by polly
2010-07-13 16:07:48

Not sure if the pollen passes on the sterility, but Monsanto will sure sue you if they find any of their genes in your plants and you didn’t buy seed from them. Even if the pollination was caused by the wind.

 
 
 
 
Comment by sold in 05
2010-07-13 10:37:24

the top 1 % controls 25 % of our countries wealth..1970-1990 the top 1% controlled 9% of our wealth..The middle class is gone,we cannot borrow our way back to artificial prosperity…WE are quickly heading into a double dip ,this is the reason why…Quick fixes for wall st at the expense of the shrinking middle class…

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 10:49:03

Hey you sound like my red-headed freckled (former bank examiner) cousin in Kansas:

Cheney-Shrub Legacy Effect #3: “We left y’all with the worst economy in 80 years…see ya!” :-)

“…Coinciding with the Bush tax cuts was the growth of America’s tax codes by 1/3. Bush was all about limiting taxes on capital gains and dividends. Nice, if you understand what that means. He wanted to place nearly all taxation on paychecks, 80% of the average persons yearly income, 50% and lower for the wealthy. Incorporate the estate tax into the equation and you begin to get the picture. Take your millions, invest it, inherit it, all free of taxation while the average American gets ripped off due to the complications of the tax code/emphasis on paycheck income. This type of thinking stunts economic growth by burdening middle income earners trying to climb their way up the social ladder.

Government spending does play a role in this discussion, and that is fine. But to claim that the economy can “grow its way” out of recession by giving further tax breaks on investment is not logical. Bush tried to sell his package with the misnomer of 40k, 2 kids, married, 98% off taxes. In reality it came to be about 24%, not bad, but the catch is that a family with 2 adults working, and 2 kids, generally doesn’t make 40k a year, or in other words 20k per individual.

The easiest math is of course the added deficit Bush grew while slashing taxes on the wealthy. Bush added 80 billion to the deficit every 51 days post-tax cut legislation. Now I understand Republicans initial reaction is to attack Obama, but lets focus on Bush since he was the president that signed these cuts into law. Even after subtracting the average six-year tax savings from the President’s tax cuts, the net burden of Bush’s policies over six years wasabout $9,456 per person and $37,826 per family of four nationwide.

This is basic math, you cannot borrow money, and then use it to fund a tax cut, and pretend that you are actually helping the median income earners.

Even more basic math, you cannot borrow money, and send out checks with it to people, while claiming to assist the stability of the economy since the “growth” is fictitious just as the major financial banks investments in derivatives was based in fictitious capital.

 
 
Comment by Chris M
2010-07-13 10:55:54

I have a small business, and I don’t want their stinking loans. Our single capital equipment loan will be paid off in August. We are struggling to keep the machines we already have busy. Why would I want to take out a loan and add more capacity? Personally, I’m thrilled at our 2% profit for the fiscal year that just ended. It means I can keep paying myself and my 24 employees at our current rates, and not run the company into the ground. Our 2% profit would be laughed at by Wall Street types. But we’re privately owned, and happy to be employed.

Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:08:48

Good for you Chris! Keep on jammin’!

Comment by Chris M
2010-07-13 13:58:55

Thanks D! We’re trying. Just got a new lead today - a local competitor hasn’t been paying their bills, and now can’t get material to make parts. His customer is sick of their over-promising and under-delivering, and is now looking for a new supplier to make the parts. We’re going to inspect the tooling tomorrow. Prudence pays off!

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 11:09:31

I have a small business, and I don’t want their stinking loans.

I’ll confess to borrowing money from a college friend a few years back. Needed to update the ole computer. Friend has been repaid.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 11:30:18

“I have a small business, and I don’t want their stinking loans.”

Right on Chris M, keep ‘er up! You’re a true value to our Nation.

From the Hwy dark files of “This is true:”

“Small Business Owner”:

Cheats on his taxes for the last 20 years, well in excess of 1 Million $
Has an SBA loan in excess of $400,000
Uses a considerable amount of his “profit” to support organizations that promote the beielf that the WWII holocaust is myth

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 14:05:06

Post note:

One of this “small business owners” biggest accounts is a billion dollar corporation whose (now former) CEO was a holocaust survivor.

(Hwy’s always been somewhat stunned about the sense of “six degrees of separation” that can transpire in the world of commerce in the name of… “bidness”)

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Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 03:33:42

Retirees may soon outnumber workers contributing to state pension system. Pressure to maintain benefits rises as more state workers retire
herald-leader.com

Just four years ago, there were 51,027 state workers contributing toward the pension fund and 34,120 retirees drawing benefits from it. By 2009, the number of workers slipped to 50,394 while the number of retirees leapt 19 percent to 40,531.

(In a separate fund for Kentucky State Police workers, there already are 239 more retirees getting pensions than active troopers on duty. County governments, served by a third fund, had 93,481 workers and 45,564 retirees.)

At the same time, benefits got a little richer for workers who left under the “incentive windows” the legislature created in recent years to encourage retirement and reduce the payroll. One such incentive let workers base their pensions on their best three years of salaries rather than their best five years.

These incentives cause headaches at the Kentucky Retirement Systems because they send droves of workers for the exit years earlier than expected, Burnside said. That produces more people taking money from the funds, fewer people giving money and less money to invest for gains, he said.

Comment by combotechie
2010-07-13 06:19:08

Notice the number of articles blaming retirees - in this case public retirees - for the current economic woes. Remember how it was the pensions of GM and the powers of the unions that allegedly brought down GM?

This is the magic of the MSM at work in their endless quest to shape public opinion and sway the thinking of we, the Unwashed Masses.

Comment by combotechie
2010-07-13 06:24:09

Notice how it is NEVER the politicians or business executives that are blamed for the mismangaement of whatever it is they are put in charge of; It always seems to be the fault of somebody else.

Comment by combotechie
2010-07-13 06:40:57

It’s never the fault of the decision makers, those who get paid some very big bucks UP FRONT, it’s the fault of the working smucks who are promised to get paid SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD.

Put promises into a can and then keep kicking the can down the road until you run out of road, then piss and moan and play the victim that needs to be rescued.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 06:49:38

Bingo! Why didn’t those in charge set aside enough money in the retirement plans to begin with? Had they been properly funded this wouldn’t be an issue. Or had they confronted the unions and told them that there wasn’t enough money to fund the pensions at the promised payout levels this also wouldn’t have happened.

So instead they said “sure, no problem.” and kicked the can down the road, know that it would eventually bes omeone else’s problem.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 06:51:59

Or for simply making promises that they never assigned sufficient resources to meet. Many, many pension funds were run on unrealisticly optimistic anticipations for returns. Current economic conditions are regarded as “unforseeable” but what they forsaw was 8% returns forever.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 08:24:32

Current economic conditions are regarded as “unforseeable” but what they forsaw was 8% returns forever.

Aren’t long-term returns more in the 4-6% range?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 10:35:40

Like I said, those in charge kicked the can down the road. It’s now someone else’s problem.

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 11:24:04

It’s actually dangerous to fully fund your pension, or work with pessimistic assumptions. If you build up a fat pension fund, you become a prime target for hostile takeover and dismantling to get to those delicious, tasty money-nuggets.

 
Comment by JohnF
2010-07-13 11:29:17

Aren’t long-term returns more in the 4-6% range?

“Safe” returns, yes….meaning, you absolutely KNOW that the money will be there to pay benefits.

But our elected leaders put the pension fund managers in a no-win situation - they kept increasing the formula for benefits, but wouldn’t divert the money necessary to fund the benefits.

Any fund manager that complained that they would have to invest in riskier investments to meet the pension obligations was fired and managers that promised high returns that didn’t require the extra cash, were hired instead.

 
Comment by JohnF
2010-07-13 11:35:14

It’s actually dangerous to fully fund your pension, or work with pessimistic assumptions. If you build up a fat pension fund, you become a prime target for hostile takeover and dismantling to get to those delicious, tasty money-nuggets.

Not any more….they amended ERISA in the late 1980’s to disallow that (getting at the overfunded pension plan).

The game was:

- terminate the pension plan
- buy cheap annuities from questionable insurance companies
- replace the pension plan with the annuities
- keep the difference

Unfortunately, many of the insurance companies went belly-up because they sold the annuities too cheaply. Why did this happen, you ask? Because the insurance companies made overly optimistic assumptions about the returns on their investment portfolio…..sound familiar??

…..the more things change, the more they stay the same…….

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:56:08

John F,

I really wish you’d stop by and share more often! All true. I’ve seen it happen time and again. No one wants to be the poor sales rep that has to walk into an exec. grp. cmtte. meeting “touting” their XYZ Fund and it’s wonderful 4% ( over the last DECADE! ) returns!

Now you have to “Lead With Performance”. Hell, unless yer’ talking double-digits ( you won’t even get the appointment to show it! )

Didn’t realize that about the annuity side. Again, drop by more often! Fiduciaries simply do not talk about this stuff openly, certainly not as often as they should.

 
 
Comment by James
2010-07-13 06:52:09

Yes there seems to be some steering of the debate. Also note the demographic crisis was obvious and we talked about it some years ago.

There are some other boards dedicated to talking about pensions too. My take is the crisis was built in years ago with low reserves and pensions underfunded. Just like the social security fund. The stockpile of cash to pay these things doesn’t exist.

If it did it would start flooding the system now and begin causing inflation.

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Comment by packman
2010-07-13 06:55:26

Yep.

This is just immensely ironic:

At the same time, benefits got a little richer for workers who left under the “incentive windows” the legislature created in recent years to encourage retirement and reduce the payroll. One such incentive let workers base their pensions on their best three years of salaries rather than their best five years.

So they’re now in financial trouble because of past cost-cutting measures?

An excellent example of being burned by short-term thinking. Incentivising early retirement is one of the more stupid things an entity can do, in the long run. Far better to just make make the hard choice and just do layoffs, or at the very least furloughs (not talking about the wimpy 3-day furloughs I’ve heard about).

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Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 07:45:28

“3-day furloughs”

( Otherwise known as a “bender” ) Yeah, beat me with a wet noodle!

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-07-13 08:03:12

Notice how it is NEVER the politicians or business executives that are blamed for the mismangaement

BINGO

or how about managerial pay. 400x average worker at the company and rising. Some are close to 1000x.

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Comment by polly
2010-07-13 08:16:31

To be fair, the amount of exective pay isn’t going to be enough to bail out the pension fund. Not by a long shot. But, the policies put in place by various executives in order to get their full bonuses, are likely the ones that caused the company to make huge future promises to avoid current payments and the ones that kept the company from properly funding those future obligations. So the exec pay is connected to the company being unable to meet its obligations, just not solely because of the amount of money they actually collect. It is more complicated than that.

 
Comment by AmazingRuss
2010-07-13 09:26:27

Kind of like a realtor and appraiser teaming up to jack up the price of a house 50k so the realtor can make another 3k.

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 11:54:05

polly–ISTM that the auto companies are the prime example of this. For a long time, barriers to entry were high enough that the oligarchy of the big three and the UAW meant the pension costs were repeatedly added to tomorrows bottom line. Because for the most part the automakers didn’t compete for workers by offering different contract terms. Instead, when the contracts were up, a different automaker would negotiate first with the UAW after which that contract would be used as a template for the others.

 
 
 
Comment by exeter
2010-07-13 06:30:55

That’s right combo…. The knuts blame those doing all the work as a way to take their money.

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-07-13 06:50:47

the “incentive windows” the legislature created in recent years.

That sounds to me like the press is saying the politicians created the incentive to go for “early retirement”. And, yes, they did.

Clearly, the unions have been given “benefits” far beyond what the system can and will support, in both the public and private sectors.
ALL of them have projected ridiculous models concerning what “incomes” they will derive to pay out the benefits. Although none of the “models” is realistic and therefore the benefits are not payable, the attitude of all the recipients is “that’s not my fault”. I want what I’m “entitled” to.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 08:14:55

I know a young fellow who just started as a teacher. He’s confident that his pension will be there when he retires. I told him to think again.

I only wonder how long it will be until the teachers are moved to a 401(k) plan.

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Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 11:25:29

The sooner the better.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Mole Man
2010-07-13 07:06:05

This is a really nasty trap that regardless of blame governments all over now have to deal with. Looking at the numbers and the historical record it seems essentially inevitable that things will get worse until there is an unpleasant resolution. If the scenarios which have played out under the national Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation are any guide this will eventually result in retirement benefits being roughly halved while the workforce is reduced by ten to twenty percent or so. For people who retired early to enjoy increased benefits when they were offered this could force unpleasant, destabilizing adjustments.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-07-13 10:59:37

“this will eventually result in retirement benefits being roughly halved while the workforce is reduced by ten to twenty percent or so”

So the gov’s need to inflate is going to be like a dagger in the heart for these folks….um, I guess that’ll be us folks. Better make other arrangements.

Comment by JohnF
2010-07-13 11:40:38

So the gov’s need to inflate is going to be like a dagger in the heart for these folks….um, I guess that’ll be us folks. Better make other arrangements.

The problem is that Social Security and many (if not most) defined benefit pension plans are indexed for inflation, so they can’t “inflate their way out of the problem”.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2010-07-13 13:37:50

Doesn’t that assume the inflation they cause will be accurately measured for indexing purposes?

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-07-13 07:36:32

Does “retire” mean you shut your creativity and money-making skills down? If so, I don’t plan to ever retire - will work until I drop. I cannot imagine anyone who just wants to shut down and be out to pasture like a cow eating hay.

For many boomers who quit the type of work they’ve been doing for decades, I expect that they will take the opportunity to start hobbies or research projects that turn into new careers.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-13 07:39:31

Hey Bill:

I posted the other day why not give your money to fund a micro loan business, instead of maintaining the bloated salaries of the American Heart and cancer societies?

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-07-13 20:30:00

Good point. Instead of “retirement” just incubate high tech businesses. Things like that create jobs and the invisible hand of it advances society.

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Comment by packman
2010-07-13 07:55:28

FWIW - if I could “retire” in the sense of not having an actual business income, I very much would. I’d love to be able to travel the world, do hobbies, etc. I’d still like to do things like work on my house - but only for my own pleasure not for money.

Not sure what your business is Bill - but is it such that you could “work until you drop” even if you became disabled, e.g. such that you couldn’t drive or walk?

That’s more feasible these days phone and web - work from home - but only for certain jobs and job skills. E.g. a carpenter can’t do that, nor a grocery store manager, etc. People in such careers really do have to have some kind of fallback skills, or at least have to plan to save up enough money and to work long enough for the N years between when they do become disabled and when they die.

(Just some thoughts - not really trying to argue a point or anything.)

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 08:34:08

That’s more feasible these days phone and web - work from home - but only for certain jobs and job skills. E.g. a carpenter can’t do that, nor a grocery store manager, etc. People in such careers really do have to have some kind of fallback skills, or at least have to plan to save up enough money and to work long enough for the N years between when they do become disabled and when they die.

I beg to disagree on the carpenter argument. Shortly after I moved into this house, I hired an 84-year-old man to install my drapes and shelving.

He did a fabulous job.

Yes, I know. It wasn’t heavy duty framing carpentry. More like finish. But he could still work his butt off, and, last I checked, he was still in business.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 10:20:29

Shortly after I moved into this house, I hired an 84-year-old man to install my drapes and shelving.

Then he is a lucky man if he’s still that fit and healthy. Most 80 somethings that I know aren’t fit to drive a car.

 
Comment by packman
2010-07-13 10:28:41

Not sure where you’re disagreeing. The 84-year-old didn’t install your drapes and shelving from his home, did he?

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-07-13 20:23:08

There will be many 80 somethings in 80 years that could do like that carpenter.

The wierd thing is we simultaneously hear that obesity is an epidemic and that people are living longer.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 03:39:24

Area home sales pass 1,000
Tax credit boosts transactions to highest level seen in years
The Post and Courier ~ July 13, 2010

The Charleston,S.C area’s real estate market crested on a wave of tax incentive-supported home sales last month, pushing activity past the national market as the popular incentive winds down.

Home sales during June hit 1,022 transactions, the first time that sales crossed the 1,000-home threshold in nearly three years, according to the Charleston Trident Association of Realtors. A federal tax credit worth up to $8,000 combined with record-low interest rates and thousands of available properties to send sales surging, local experts said.

Falling prices also encouraged buyers during uncertain economic times: The typical home sold for $185,612 during June, a decline from a $192,626 median price from June 2009, the association said.

The region’s real estate market growth has outpaced the rest of the country. Homes sold in the Charleston area so far this year topped last year’s year-to-date sales by 31 percent, while national sales increased by about 16 percent. The association also includes in its data a few properties outside of but adjacent to the tri-county area.

“I think there’s an American spirit of optimism in Charleston, and we have every reason to have it,” said Kay Kennerty of AgentOwned Realty Co. in Mount Pleasant, citing the region’s quality of life and economic development opportunities.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 03:46:36

Strapped Florida Banks Ask for Help
Hobbled by Real-Estate Bust and Oil Spill’s Fallout, Lenders Seek Reprieve From Capital Raising

Florida banks—already weakened by the real-estate bust and hit again by customers suffering from the BP PLC oil spill—are asking federal regulators for a reprieve from government-ordered capital raising as they struggle to stay alive.

In a Monday letter to Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, Florida’s top banking lobbyist requested all local banks be granted a 12-month break from higher capital requirements, loan appraisals and new regulatory sanctions.

“Unless we work together in giving our banks more time to work through this oil crisis,” more financial institutions will go under, wrote Florida.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-07-13 07:01:29

The FDIC has been closing down banks all around the Country for 2 years now. The numbers have been escalating as the bad loans and lack or repayments have taken a toll on their balance sheets.
The “oil slick” problem has added to some decline in the Florida and Gulf coast industries, but they were headed on track to insolvency, anyway.
It’s like another entitlement program. Every excuse people can come up with to skim some more money off other people seems to be a national past-time. I read recently where homeowners down in the Naples area had filed suit against BP for the loss of value of their waterfront houses. Naples isn’t anywhere near the oil spill and we haven’t seen ANY impact from oil on the West coast of FLorida.

Still, people will try to get money from whoever they think they can.
The courts should summarily throw out such suits, and perhaps send the filers a bill for the trouble they have caused the court system.

 
Comment by SFC
2010-07-13 08:46:24

I’m no expert by any stretch, but by trying this BS excuse aren’t banks admitting that they’re having a heck of a time raising this capital? “Yeah, we had people lining up to give us money until this darn oil gusher thing. And Lindsay Lohan going to jail has affected us in ways you couldn’t imagine.”

Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 11:58:37

A guy who blogged about making prison wine. had a great quote: “It’s hard to believe this started out as a bag of fruit snacks and grape juice. Yet somehow these ingredients went from sweet and child-like to harsh and alcoholic quicker than Lindsay Lohan. ”

from
http://www.thesneeze.com/mt-archives/000373.php

 
 
 
Comment by tj
2010-07-13 03:55:05

hey Drumminj, you still out there??

are you still updating the joshua tree extension?

if so, where can i get it?

thanks,
tj

Comment by packman
2010-07-13 06:56:50

In case he’s not around yet:

mysite dot ncnetwork dot net/res14l147/joshuatree.html

Comment by tj
2010-07-13 14:42:21

Packman, thank you amigo.

 
 
Comment by drumminj
2010-07-13 07:02:03

Thanks, Packman. Yep, tj, still here. the above link is valid…the link at my screen name goes to the same place.

I haven’t looked into updating it for FF4. Need to do that soon…

Comment by tj
2010-07-13 14:43:46

thanks Drumminj. great little program. i just added and need to restart firefox. i’ll do that a little later.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 04:23:58

Homeowners vs. Home-Loan Buyers ~ The Wall Street Journal

Eddie Patrick thought he had a deal with Kondaur Capital Corp. to restructure the mortgage on his Baltimore house after he fell behind on his payments. The 54-year-old taxi driver dropped a lawsuit against the company after he says it promised to “work with me” on a loan modification, according to a court filing.

Kondaur foreclosed anyway—and then offered to sell the house back to Mr. Patrick for $140,000. “I don’t know why they are so inhumane,” he says about the Orange, Calif., company, one of the nation’s largest buyers of troubled mortgages.

The appetite is huge among companies like Kondaur, hedge funds and investors to buy shaky mortgages, credit-card debts, auto loans and even payday loans from lenders eager to cut their losses. So far this year, nearly $10 billion in troubled mortgages has changed hands, according to Private National Mortgage Acceptance Co., or PennyMac, a mortgage-loan buyer started in 2008.

Such loans often sell for just pennies on the dollar, with the buyers hoping to make a profit by restructuring the loan, selling it to someone else or, in the case of mortgages, foreclosing if all else fails.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704258604575360860682756080.html?mod=rss_whats_news_us

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-07-13 05:51:23

Wasn’t Penny Mac started by Mozillo or some other notorious crook of housing bubble notoriety?

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-07-13 07:16:42

“”We help borrowers understand they have a house they can’t afford,” says Mr. Daurio, who aims to recoup his investment on any given loan within six months. Before starting Kondaur in 2007, he was a co-founder of subprime lender Encore Credit Corp.”

ECC Capital/Encore Credit - Wholesale Subprime Lender

2007-02-12
stories: ocbj.com, ocbj.com
Gobbled up by Bear Stearns.

I’m adding this one retroactively, as the details have come out. The following excerpt from the first article should make it clear that this was an “implosion” and not voluntary by any stretch of the imagination:

The investment bank was set to pay $26 million for ECC Capital’s loan origination business.

But ECC actually ended up paying $7 million to Bear Stearns to close the deal. The company owed $33 million to Bear Stearns as part of money it was lent to make loans.

ECC wasn’t able to sell the loans to investors for as much as it expected, resulting in the debt to Bear Stearns.

The sale is something of a going-out-of-business sale for ECC. The company recently counted a $100 million market value, and nominally sold for a quarter of that. It went public in 2005, raising $354 million.

Guess ECC didn’t have much bargaining leverage—and Bear Stearns didn’t want to have to write down that $33 mln. Slick.

The Irvine, CA-based ECC originated $14 bln of loans as of 2005. The now-unit of Bear Stearns is still operating in some unknown capacity relative to its peak level.

 
Comment by polly
2010-07-13 08:05:05

Getting a promise from a hedge fund that they will “work with you” is like being the [animal that swims] that agrees to give the scorpion a ride across a river on its back because it promises not to sting you. You will very soon discover the nature of the beast. And why anyone would pay to start a law suit and then stop based on anything other than a final resolution of the issue all tied up in writing and nice and neat is completely beyond me. I suspect some really incompetent lawyering.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 09:18:48

Eddie Patrick thought he had a deal with Kondaur Capital Corp. to restructure the mortgage on his Baltimore house after he fell behind on his payments.

So that’s why Eddie’s so bitter.

 
Comment by Big V
2010-07-13 12:47:25

Kondaur = Condor = “Con” + “Daur”.

Name of the founder/CEO is John Daurio.

Coincidence? I think not.

Comment by Big V
2010-07-13 12:48:41

Oh, and Daurio is also a former executive of Ameriquest.

 
Comment by neuromance
2010-07-13 19:16:03

Next up: Louis Sifer.

 
 
 
Comment by Eddie
2010-07-13 04:45:04

The Maine Twins and Scott “You guys didn’t really think I was a Republican did you” Brown gave the Dems the 60 they need to further strangle capitalism.

What’s left on the agenda? Health care is nationalized. Unemployment insurance is now a welfare program that provides the lazy with a never ending stream of income. Auto industry is nationalized providing unions with a never ending stream of income. Banking is for all intents and purposes nationalized with this so-called reform bill providing Democrat donors like Goldman Sachs with a never ending stream of inccome. Oil is pretty much a dead man walking in this country providing Democrat donors of “green” technology firms a never ending stream of income. Education has been obliterated by teachers unions over the past 50 years to the point where 50% of high school seniors are functionally illiterate, and also providing a never ending stream of income to unions in the guise of more education funding. Manufacturing has been run out of the country with onerous taxes and regulation making it impossible to make a profit by producing goods here.

So what else is left on the agenda by the left? In what other ways can they destroy this once great nation? I really can’t think of anything else they can do. Short of declaring the NFL illegal, that’s it.

Oh silly me, amnesty is on the docket.

Comment by FB wants a do over
2010-07-13 10:12:22

Bringing back the 94% tax rate for the top bracket sounds like a good idea.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 10:20:16

What’s left on the agenda?

Time to start a couple more wars, I guess.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 10:33:14

Tell me Eddie, what percentage of cars assembled in the US are made by “Government Motors”? Last time I checked the bulk of the auto industry in the USA was and still is privately owned. You don’t even know what the word ‘nationalized’ even means. Here’s a clue: It doesn’t mean that General Motors got a bail out, which when compared to what any of the TBTF banks got was a pittance. It means that the government seizes ownership of an entire industry, like Mexico did with its oil industry (ever notice that the only gas stations in Mexico are Pemex gas stations?)

And if memory serves me right, both sides of the political aisle are pretty much in favor of amnesty for illegals, or as its often called “immigration reform”. Dubya tried to shove it down our throats, and I expect Obama to try to do the same.

Manufacturing has been run out of the country with onerous taxes and regulation making it impossible to make a profit by producing goods here.

That’s a load. Corporate America is offshoring to increase profits and not because they weren’t making any profit.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 11:11:07

And if memory serves me right, both sides of the political aisle are pretty much in favor of amnesty for illegals, or as its often called “immigration reform”. Dubya tried to shove it down our throats, and I expect Obama to try to do the same.

When Bush tried that, it was one of the biggest legislative defeats of his second term.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:17:44

In Colorado,

( Again, the pitfalls of “getting on a roll” ? ) And I don’t think a good many of those folks on Unemployment wouldn’t love anything more than being offered FT gainful employment?

I don’t believe any of us are exactly ‘lazy’ the DAY we go on Un? I never was. It’s draining not knowing just ‘when’ you could be cut off completely and Murphy’s Law being what it is and all.., at the ‘worst’ possible time!

But we’re not supposed to interrupt anyone here when they’re on a roll!

Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 14:18:02

Plus the UE benfits are a pittance, a mere fraction of the lost income stream.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-07-13 12:35:19

“Auto industry is nationalized providing unions with a never ending stream of income.”

Eddie, in this town the auto workers pay is now cut in 1/2 and that is only until they shut the plant down completely. I would hardly call that a win. Would you prefer that industry collapse completely? My cynicism tells me someone made money on the nationalizing but your party pandering leaves you blind to who they truly are.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 14:20:27

Eddie, in this town the auto workers pay is now cut in 1/2

And let’s not forget that the number of union autoworkers keeps shrinking.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-07-13 16:17:23

To update the scene from “The Graduate”

Mr. McGuire: I want to say one word to you. Just one word.
Benjamin: Yes, sir.
Mr. McGuire: Are you listening?
Benjamin: Yes, I am.
Mr. McGuire: Robotics.
Benjamin: Just how do you mean that, sir?

In the not-too-distant future you’ll either design them, program them, fix them, or sit on your ass all day.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 06:26:49

U.S. Queries 64 Issuers of Mortgage Securities, Others
Wall Street Journal ^ | 13 July 2010 | Nick Timiraos

Posted on Monday, July 12, 2010 9:47:27 PM by Lorianne

A federal regulator said it sent 64 subpoenas to issuers of mortgage-backed securities and other entities in an effort to probe whether the firms misled Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two of the biggest investors in privately issued bonds.

The subpoenas, issued on Monday by the Federal Housing Finance Agency, which oversees the government-backed mortgage titans, could lead the government to recoup some of the billions of dollars that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lost when they scooped up mortgage-backed securities issued by Wall Street banks during the housing boom.

The FHFA didn’t disclose its targets. But the top private issuers of mortgage securities included Bear Stearns Cos. and Washington Mutual Inc., which were taken over by J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., as well as Countrywide Home Loans and Merrill Lynch, which were taken over by Bank of America Inc. Deutsche Bank AG and Morgan Stanley were also among the top issuers.

Issuing subpoenas marks the first step in any effort to rescind those mortgage security purchases. If the regulator can find loan files or other documents that show that the loans underlying the securities didn’t match the materials used to market those investments, then it could force the issuers to take back the securities, potentially costing them billions.

The probe focuses on the “private label” securities based on subprime and other risky loans that were originated by mortgage companies, packaged by Wall Street firms, and then sold to investors. Many of the mortgage securities were made up of subprime loans and mortgages requiring little or no documentation of a borrower’s income, which deteriorated most rapidly during the housing meltdown.

Fannie and Freddie couldn’t purchase those loans directly, but they were allowed to invest in slices of those securities that carried triple-A ratings.

Comment by neuromance
2010-07-13 19:19:46

Fannie and Freddie couldn’t purchase those loans directly, but they were allowed to invest in slices of those securities that carried triple-A ratings.

The dangers of virtual products.

A “share” of a turd is… what?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 06:42:17

Suffer These Crimes in Oakland? Don’t Call the Cops
Dozens of layoffs effective at midnight, barring last minute deal
Jul 13, 2010

Oakland’s police chief is making some dire claims about what his force will and will not respond to if planned layoffs happen tonight at midnight.

Chief Anthony Batts listed exactly 44 situations that his officers no longer respond to and they include grand theft, burglary, vehicle collision, identity theft and vandalism. He says if you live and Oakland and one of the above happens to you, you need to let police know on-line.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local-beat/Suffer-These-Crimes-in-Oakland-Dont-Call-the-Cops-98266509.html

Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 08:17:51

I’m sure they’re writing speeding tickets left and right though.

“To protect and serve” - What a load.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 06:50:54

“Very Toxic”: All Bets Are Off If ‘Jobless Recovery’ Becomes True ‘Double Dip’, Catalano Says. ~~ Jul 13, 2010 by Keegan Bales in Recession

By the end of the third quarter it will be clear whether the economy is forging a real recovery or slipping into another recession, says Vinny Catalano, founder and president of Blue Market Research. This is a much more important than some academic debate over whether the economy suffers a “double dip” or not.

When he sat down with Aaron Monday, Catalano said he believes the economy is in recovery mode now, albeit of the “jobless” variety. He notes that corporate profits are strong, there is significant growth in the world’s emerging economies and while developed nations are recovering slowly, they are moving in the right direction.

But a true “double-dip” recession in the U.S. could trigger widespread instability both at home and abroad.

“Given the political climate that we are in right now, that could be very toxic over the next year or two,” Catalano says. “I could see protests in the streets, things of that sort…you can see things get unhinged and there is a snowball effect.”

Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 12:09:11

Truly it WON’T be a “second recession,” just a continuance of the first. GNP and employment have not returned, so like Winnie the Pooh, we’re just hitting another branch on the way down.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 06:52:01

Look for lots of massive central bank liquidity injections over the coming weeks to buffer the effects of a collapsing Chinese property bubble.

China Property Market Beginning Collapse That May Hit Banks, Rogoff Says
By Susan Li and Jacob Greber - Jul 6, 2010

July 6 (Bloomberg) — Kenneth Rogoff, professor at Harvard University and former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, talks with Bloomberg’s Susan Li about China’s real estate market and economy. Rogoff, speaking in Hong Kong, also discusses the outlook for European banks, the global economy and stimulus policies. (Source: Bloomberg)

China’s property market is beginning a “collapse” that will hit the nation’s banking system, said Kenneth Rogoff, the Harvard University professor and former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund.

As China’s economy develops, “especially at the speed it’s growing, it’s going to have bumps,” said Rogoff, speaking in an interview with Bloomberg Television in Hong Kong. He also said that while recoveries across the global economy are “very slow,” the danger of a return to recession isn’t “elevated.”

Rogoff’s concern echoes that of investors, who sent China’s benchmark stock index to its worst loss in more than a year last week. China’s data have been a focus because the nation has led the global recovery from the worst postwar recession.

The Shanghai Composite Index tumbled 6.7 percent last week, recouping some of those losses today on speculation recent losses were excessive. The gauge was up 1.9 percent at 2,409.42 as of 3:09 p.m. local time.

In the U.S., the world’s largest economy, the benchmark Standard & Poor’s 500 index capped a ninth day of declines in 10 sessions on July 2 after a government report showed fewer private-sector American jobs were created in June than forecast.

Chinese authorities intensified a crackdown on property speculation after announcing the economy expanded at an 11.9 percent annual pace in the first quarter, the most since 2007. Measures have included raising minimum mortgage rates and down payment ratios for some home purchases. Officials may also start a trial property tax, according to state media.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 12:11:04

Dubai with an army, nukes, and territorial aspirations. That’s going to work out well.

 
 
Comment by exeter
2010-07-13 07:11:04

The National Association of Realtors is a corrupt cesspool.

Comment by Capn John
2010-07-13 08:21:09

Haha, yes they are!

I have been chasing REO properties in my ‘hood in Boston. All that are priced to cash flow positive are amazingly already “under offer” when they appear on MLS.

Insider trading, if you will!

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-07-13 09:22:26

exeter
Absolutely, and you’re being classy to phrase it that way.

Capn John
You’re so right. The UHS (mostly REOMac members,imo) are getting the real deals. I’ve been doing the same as you in So Ca, just trying to buy a modest primary residence. I’m licensed and I’m blocked it. My former employer was a REIT.

Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 11:21:46

awaiting wipeout,

Sorry to hear that. … hate to say I told ya’ so, but I’ve been on about that for years. Without putting any -Regulation- in place during the chaos of The Bust, this was BOUND to happen!

Where Cartel Mbrs. are concerned ( this the -least- they’re “owed”! ) God it gets old…

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Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-07-13 11:58:08

DinOR,
Evidently, your head isn’t as dense as mine, which is good for you, and not so good for me.

OK_Land_Lord (like it!) & Kim-
I haven’t seen that work in So Ca. One home nicely redone (REO), but the lot stinks, is down $70K, after trying to get top $. It’s still overpriced, imo.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-07-13 12:42:55

awaiting wipeout,

Notice one of the stories from earlier today Kanduar Cap. ( was a former Subprime MB! ) Of course now he’s simply morphed over to a hedggie and is in turn… playing the downside!

The downside HE created btw! You know, guys, the rest of it, I can ‘live’ with. Turbo-tax-Timmy yada, yada, it was all destined to unfold under just about ANY circumstance?

For me, it’s not a matter of being ‘dense’ or anything of the sort. We’re all miffed here. But this aspect to me was sooooo common sense. Just basic Damage Control, and now they’re treating it like their private kitty.

 
Comment by Big V
2010-07-13 12:53:44

I am having a hard time figuring out why anyone would trust Kondaur with their money. The company works by getting $$ from investors, which it then uses to purchase the mortgages. Who would give their money to a known thief/con artist?

If I wanted to invest in a vulture fund, then it wouldn’t be Daurio’s vulture fund.

 
 
 
Comment by OK_Land_Lord
2010-07-13 10:03:31

Are there any rules or regulations or a way that we can exspose the realestate industry? I called about a few properties in the area and one was supposedly under contract and a few weeks later it was relisted at a higher price.

Comment by Kim
2010-07-13 10:59:34

A REO I am following just raised its price by $25K this week. Makes little sense to me, but I figured either its a REIC game or maybe the bank did something to fix it up (unlikely, but the place was stripped in parts).

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Comment by Sean
2010-07-13 13:05:24

I’m waiting on a call from an ‘agent’ about a bank owned foreclosed SFH. Been waiting for a week before I called another agent, who is investigating. It isn’t on MLS, it isn’t on the Wells Fargo website (who owns the property) yet it is vacant with a “For Sale” sign outside. I asked specifically what the deal with it is: “No one has bought it yet”.

Something strange is going on. I’m thinking of just moving in and fixing the place up. It’ll be months/years before anyone notices or cares.

 
 
Comment by OK_Land_Lord
2010-07-13 08:43:33

It was anounced on the Radio in Las Vegas, by the local National Relator spokesperson (liar), that sales are down in Las Vegas, because there are less homes on the market than last year, and the median price is holding steady.

Also, he said “It’s a good time to buy”

 
Comment by butters
2010-07-13 09:04:09

What isn’t? Every organizations, businesses, political parties, goverments and tradegroups are all corrupt. We need to figure out whose corruption does harm the most?

Comment by PortlandDad
2010-07-14 00:23:30

Nice post, butters. This sounds like the most rational starting point for solving our problems as a nation.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 12:42:36

I love your defamatory declamations regarding the NAR and its members.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 07:13:31

WTH? You guys have the keys to the printing press, get to printing and passing it out dammit.

States Can’t Count on Federal Bailout, Obama Appointees Say

States can’t count on the federal government for more budget bailouts, the heads of President Barack Obama’s debt commission told governors.

States expecting Congress to authorize more assistance are “going to be left with a very large hole to fill,” said Erskine Bowles, co-chairman of the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. States including New York and California have urged Congress to extend stimulus spending authorized to combat the recession, including extra Medicaid funding and money to pay public school teachers.

“I don’t think we can count on the federal government again,” Bowles, White House chief of staff under former President Bill Clinton, said yesterday at the National Governors Association meeting in Boston. “They just do not have the financial resources.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-07-13 08:17:07

My state’s FY11 budget is in limbo big time. The chasm between revenue and spending is great, much, much greater than the size of the cuts that have been announced so far. Local MSM beefs about the cuts, but asks no tough questions regarding the remaining gap.

The current lack of urgency on the part of the state’s lawmakers can only be explained by a false belief that DC will fill the gap as they did in FY10.

 
Comment by palmetto
2010-07-13 10:40:52

“States can’t count on the federal government for more budget bailouts, the heads of President Barack Obama’s debt commission told governors.”

Something is seriously wrong with this picture. Time for a good dose of state and individual rights. The states should be the ones deciding what the fedgov gets, not the other way around. This dinosaur is way too big and bloated. And individuals, through withholding of tax revenues, should be telling the fedgov it can’t count on the people for more war and Wall Street bailouts.

The tax system needs a severe modification. The money should go from the individual, to the state and thence to the fedgov.

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-07-13 11:54:45

“Corrupt States Cannot Count on Corrupt Federal Government”

-fixed.

Comment by palmetto
2010-07-13 15:10:44

“Fedgov can’t count on taxpayers for further bailouts, citizens say”.

Yessiree, the US of A is now pretty much nothing more than a taxing authority and a life support system for maggots.

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Comment by SV guy
2010-07-13 17:30:08

Palmy,
I’m with you on states rights. If you look closely you can see some battle lines being drawn already.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-07-13 08:38:57

We need bigger Section 8 and Food Stamp Programs.

5 Boynton Beach convenience store employees charged with food stamp fraud

By Julius Whigham II Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 6:10 p.m. Thursday, June 10, 2010

BOYNTON BEACH — Posing as customers with U.S. government food stamp cards, undercover officers discovered fraudulent activity at five convenience stores in the city, police said Thursday.

As a result, Boynton Beach Police arrested and charged five store employees with public assistance fraud, according to a release issued Thursday afternoon.

The investigation showed that store clerks were allowing customers to use Electronic Benefit Transfer (EBT) cards to buy beer, cigarettes and get cash, the release said.

During the investigation, undercover officers would walk into a store with a fictitious EBT card and request cash in a certain dollar amount. The clerk would charge a fee for a matching amount. Police were able to conduct 68 fraudulent transactions worth $4,000 at the five convenience stores in five months, the release said.

Police arrested Shuhab Mahari, 48, Mohammed Shantonu Hossain, 32, Abdul Gaffar, 52, Rafiqul Islam Chowdhury, 50, and Kamal Ahmed, 27

Section 8 fraud

Authorities continue search for last of 16 charged with housing fraud in Palm Beach County

Posted: 8:53 a.m. Tuesday, July 13, 2010

WEST PALM BEACH — Authorities today still are searching for the last of 16 people they allege lied about their status to get nearly $600,000 in federal rental assistance to which they aren’t entitled.

As part of “Operation Shield,” 15 people were booked Monday into the Palm Beach County Jail on 21 counts of grand theft, organized scheme to defraud, public assistance fraud and falsifying homestead exemptions. The last one, Courtney Lataurus Gross, 34, of Royal Palm Beach was expected to be in custody soon, officials said. The amount of her alleged fraud is $92,859. She allegedly failed to disclose her criminal history.

The sweep is the latest of several crackdowns by the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office and the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. According to Palm Beach County Jail records, the 16 named bring to nearly 40 the number booked on such charges in 2010; more than 100 have been charged since January 2009.

(Still at large:) Courtney Lataurus Gross, 34, of Royal Palm Beach. Amount: $92, 859. Allegation: failed to disclose her criminal history, which includes arrests for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. She also failed to disclose the criminal history of her son, Kenton Will Ball, which includes arrests for robbery and probation violation; for her boyfriend, Duane Mark Blake, who had 26 arrests, including one for homicide, and a roommate, Eric Alexander Hunter, whose arrests included military desertion, robbery and kidnapping. All four are on probation.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-07-13 09:13:39

Interesting note that an “arrest” is criminal history. I’d have thought a conviction was criminal history.

Comment by jeff saturday
2010-07-13 09:48:44

“Interesting note that an “arrest” is criminal history.”

Something stuck.

“All four are on probation.”

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-07-13 10:36:13

“Police arrested Shuhab Mahari, 48, Mohammed Shantonu Hossain, 32, Abdul Gaffar, 52, Rafiqul Islam Chowdhury, 50, and Kamal Ahmed, 27″

More maggots, feeding on the flesh of a dying USA.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 10:57:08

With those names, I thought this story came out of AZ…

Comment by palmetto
2010-07-13 15:08:24

Nah, Florryduh, it’s different here. We’re real diverse and international when it comes to crime.

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Comment by Jim A.
2010-07-13 12:03:31

Convience store clerks… pretty low on the totem pole. In Maryland they convicted state senator Tommie Broadwater of food stamp fraud. And then ammended the state constitution to prevent him from being reelcted WHILE IN PRISON. If you made this stuff up, people wouldn’t believe you.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-07-13 15:06:15

I guess they didn’t care that he was a crook. Poor RIchard Nixon, he was born too early.

 
 
 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-07-13 08:46:37
Comment by Kim
2010-07-13 10:37:31

So now mortgage modifications are an entitlement too. I guess we knew it would come to this.

Comment by Lisa
2010-07-13 13:19:37

“So now mortgage modifications are an entitlement too. I guess we knew it would come to this.”

When I decided to sell in 2004, a big factor was acknowledging the hard, cold reality that I no longer had sufficient reserves to make it through the next slow down or recession, having just been through the dot.com bust in the Bay Area, which was ground zero. It was pretty black & white back then, you either could afford your house or you couldn’t.

Yes, the huge sense of entitlement is another “gift” of the bubble. Apparently, your house is supposed to save your ass no matter what.

 
Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-07-13 17:31:36

Kim & Lisa,
I don’t think the lawsuit stems from a sense of modification entitlement, but from a bank lying, destroying evidence, and being bullies. We can agree to disagree on this one.

Personally, I think very few deserve any flexibility on their mortgage obligation. You signed a contract, so stop whining and pay the damn thing.

 
 
 
Comment by Jacob M.
2010-07-13 09:51:05

Yes, most institutions are corrupt, which is why it is important to approach the world through a skeptical lens, especially when something sounds too good to be true!

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 10:59:46

“They” have lenses as well, & computer modeling. :-)

http://www.cartoonspot.net/looney-tunes/picture/coyote-1.jpg

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-07-13 11:46:12

“The FICO fallout is probably more severe in Florida, which has suffered a flood of foreclosures since the housing bubble burst. Spagnuolo guessed that 40 percent of Floridians have credit scores below 600.”

And still house prices remain way too high in Florida while the LOWSCOES live in their payment free houses complaining that the bank won`t respond to help them. THE BANKS EXTEND AND PRETEND while sitting on their shadow inventory, criminals rent out their second houses without paying the mortgage, rents remain too high because of all of the above while the people with good scores who didn`t go to the Housing Casino and payed their bills and taxes, suffer.

Credit scores hit alarming lows

By Eileen Aj Connelly The Associated Press
Posted: 9:15 p.m. Monday, July 12, 2010

The credit scores of millions more Americans are sinking to new lows.

Figures provided by FICO Inc. show that 25.5 percent of consumers - nearly 43.4 million people - have a credit score of 599 or less, marking them as poor risks for lenders. It’s unlikely they will be able to get credit cards, auto loans or mortgages under the tighter lending standards that banks now use.

Because consumers relied so heavily on debt to fuel their spending in recent years, their restricted access to credit is one reason for the slow economic recovery.

“One in four consumers have a FICO score that is basically subprime,” said Louis Spagnuolo, a mortgage broker at WCS Lending in Boca Raton. “When you combine that with lenders raising the minimum scores to qualify for loans, it’s a double whammy.”

The FICO fallout is probably more severe in Florida, which has suffered a flood of foreclosures since the housing bubble burst. Spagnuolo guessed that 40 percent of Floridians have credit scores below 600.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 12:30:27

Southern California Home Prices Rise on Tax Credits

Southern California house and condominium prices rose 13 percent in June from a year earlier as buyers took advantage of state tax credits and low interest rates, research company MDA DataQuick said.

The median price climbed to $300,000, MDA DataQuick said today in a statement. The report encompasses Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Diego and Ventura counties, the San Diego-based company said.

Rates for 30-year fixed mortgages fell to the lowest on record for the third straight week on July 8, reducing borrowing costs for homebuyers, according to mortgage-finance company Freddie Mac. In California, buyers can qualify for a tax credit of as much as $10,000 under a program that began May 1.

“We’re still seeing lots of bargain hunting, and we’re not seeing much discretionary buying,” John Walsh, president of MDA DataQuick, said in the statement. “The single-biggest issue is still mortgage financing. Rates may be at record lows, but that doesn’t mean much if the lender won’t qualify you.”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 12:49:02

The median price climbed to $300,000, MDA DataQuick said today in a statement.

And what’s CA’s median income?

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 12:54:29

Southern California Home Prices Rise on Tax Credits

So much for buying the dip.

 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-07-13 13:13:08

There were an awful lot of open houses last Sunday.

A whiff of post July 4th fear, perhaps?

I’m also really getting a kick out of the number of MLS offerings that are clearly staged REOs. (Barest of essentials, no clutter, no window treatments) and I”m getting sick and tired of my realtor pretending that’s not what they are.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 13:47:42

Wesley College plans to close.

FLORENCE, MISS. — Wesley College leaders say they plan to close at the end of the month because the school has about $2.7 million in debt.

The cozy college, owned by the Congregational Methodist Church, has operated at its Mississippi 469 site, off U.S. 49, since 1972. Debt accrued from building a new dorm and a drop in contributions are the reasons the college is closing.

Registrar Charity Nielson said the college’s leaders learned of the closure Wednesday and have since notified students enrolled for fall classes. Nelson said the college plans to notify other students and alumni shortly.

The college has about 140 students per semester with 40 percent living on campus.

“We want to make sure our students are taken care of,” Nielson said. “We’re looking to make sure our students are placed.”

Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 16:28:15

I’m sure there are many community colleges ready to offer them a superior educational experience to what they would have gotten there.

But they ALL got a free lesson in income/outgo ratios.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 13:54:41

French back burka ban as only ONE MP votes against move to outlaw Islamic ‘walking coffins’ ~ 13th July 2010

French MPs today overwhelmingly voted to ban the burka after a senior minister described it as a ‘walking coffin’ and a ‘muzzle’.

Only one deputy opposed the bill in the National Assembly as 335 other politicians united to show their opposition to Islamic veils which cover a woman’s entire face.

The draft bill, proposed by President Nicholas Sarkozy’s government, will now pass to the Senate where it could be ratified as early as September.
United: Members of the French parliament voted 335-1 in favour of the burka ban

United: Members of the French parliament voted 335-1 in favour of the burka ban

It follows months of debate which saw Immigration Minister Eric Besson describe the burka as a ‘walking coffin’.

Prime Minister Francois Fillon accused wearers of ‘hijacking Islam’ and displaying a ‘dark sectarian image’.

Recent polls suggested that more than 80 per cent of French people wanted the burka banned, including members of the country’s five million-strong Muslim population.

Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 14:05:26

Recent polls suggested that more than 80 per cent of French people wanted the burka banned, including members of the country’s five million-strong Muslim population.

So much for my plan “B” - move to France and become “The Burqa Bandit”

Bah!

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 14:07:52

Recent polls suggested that more than 80 per cent of French people wanted the burka banned, including members of the country’s five million-strong Muslim population.

I’m acquainted with several young Muslim women. They’re not oppressed by any means — every one of them is seeking at least a bachelor’s degree in a scientific or technical field. They plan on returning to their countries to get jobs.

And, being young women, they’re quite fashion conscious in their choices of veils and how they wear them.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-07-13 17:45:52

Az Slim,
I’m curious. Are they young Muslim gals going to accept an arranged marriage?

Sidenote: My older sister (by 2 yrs) got involved in an arranged marriage, and it’s been a living hell for her and the two kids they produced. She was raised secular and was well educated. Apparently she has a short circut. My late father use to say “The rocks in his head, fit the holes in her’s.”

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 14:17:38

eBay sued for $3.8 billion in PayPal patent case:

On Tuesday July 13, 2010 By Jonathan Stempel / Reuters

Meg / 2010! :-)

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (fpss™)
&
BWAHAHAHicHAHAHicHAHAHAHAHicHAHAHic* (DennisN™)

Ho ho, hah hah, hehehehehehe, BwaHaHaAhHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower™)

“…eBay allegedly stole information shared in confidence by the inventors on XPRT’s own patents, and incorporated it into features in its own payment systems, such as PayPal Pay Later and PayPal Buyer Credit.

XPRT said that when eBay on April 30, 2003 filed a patent application titled “Method and System to Automate Payment for a Commerce Transaction,” it failed to tell the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office it knew of XPRT’s own patent applications.

By filing for a similar patent, eBay “admitted the patentability of the inventors’ claims,” the complaint said.

“This involves a trade secret theft, along with sheer patent infringement,” said Steven Moore, a partner at Kelley Drye & Warren LLP representing the plaintiff, in an interview. “It is bad enough to take someone’s technology, but it is a bit much to use it in your own patent application.”

EBay did not immediately return calls and an email seeking comment.”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-07-13 14:24:01

“It is bad enough to take someone’s technology, but it is a bit much to use it in your own patent application.”

One of my clients is a patent attorney. Super-sharp guy with degrees in math and physics. I can see him having fun writing about this case in a future issue of his newsletter.

 
Comment by palmetto
2010-07-13 15:05:59

Give Meg Whitman one of those childish DSR (Detailed Seller Ratings) stars they use to rate sellers at ebay. Makes me think of some disgruntled buyer sitting all the computer all pursey-lipped because their package arrived 5 seconds later than they thought it should and handing out little stars for deportment like a kindergarten teacher.

Meg Whitman sucks, I’d ten times rather have Gov Moonbeam. At least he’s entertaining.

Comment by butters
2010-07-13 16:11:16

Yup. She might say she is republican but she’s no different than Ahnold, a moderate democrat basically.

I like crazies in politics. More crazies the better. Ron Paul!

 
 
Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 15:12:40

eBay sued for $3.8 billion in PayPal patent case:

Patents on software and business processes are mostly bad.

Because there are so many ways to do the same thing in software, you end up patenting the concept rather than the implementation. It’s like patenting the door.

Patent:
Door

Description:
A device fitted into an opening in a wall, moving on rotating connectors having a latch or toggle to hold it shut when not in use, providing access into and out of the area enclosed by the wall.

There. No one can make doors any more without paying me royalties because they will all fit that description.

“Not only is it becoming impossible to invent new services on the web without the permission of a patent holder who claims to own the intellectual property embodied in your invention, it is impossible to know who you need to ask permission of.”
- Techdirt

Comment by DennisN
2010-07-14 08:36:27

Bad claim construction….

How about this?

A device comprising:
a material sheet,
a hinge attached to one side of said material sheet, and
a latch attached to other side of said material sheet.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-07-13 14:53:45

Australian drunk survives attempt to ride crocodile ~ BBC

A drunk man who climbed into a crocodile enclosure in Australia and attempted to ride a 5m (16ft) long crocodile has survived his encounter.

The crocodile, called Fatso, bit the 36-year-old man’s leg, tearing chunks of flesh from him as he straddled the reptile.

He received surgery to serious wounds to his leg and is recovering in hospital, police say.

He had been chucked out of a pub in the town of Broome for being too drunk.

The man, who was not named by the police, climbed over a fence and tried to sit on the 800kg (1,800lb) saltwater crocodile.
Continue reading the main story

If it had been warmer and Fatso was more alert, we would have been dealing with a fatality

“Fatso has taken offence to this and has spun around and bit this man on the right leg,” Sgt Roger Haynes of Broome police told journalists.

“The crocodile has let him go and he’s been able to scale the fence again and leave the wildlife park.”
‘Right mind’

Malcolm Douglas, the park’s owner, said that the crocodile was capable of crushing a man to death with a single bite.

Comment by lavi d
2010-07-13 15:16:10

Australian drunk survives attempt to ride crocodile ~ BBC

I’ve heard of “feeding the alligator”…

 
Comment by sfbubblebuyer
2010-07-13 16:24:41

Honestly, it sounds like the world would have been better off had Fatso been hungrier.

 
 
Comment by michael
2010-07-13 17:10:16

(gonna repost this on tomorrow’s thread)

so I’m at a happy hour for this guy that is leaving my company. I work for a company that is a microcosm of the housing collapse. i was at a happy hour for a young guy leaving my company. he was in the sexy “finance..deal guy group”.

me: cool man…what are your plans?

him: getting my MBA at the university of “not in the top 10″.

me: ummkay…what’s your emphasis gonna be? (i knew what i was gonna hear)

him: real estate

me: come on man…real estate’s dead for at least the next 10 years.

him: what? oh…in the U.S. you do realize that there are more markets than just the U.S.?

me: oh yes…(awaiting my enlightenment)

him: Canada is booming! (gives me a very dismissive expression)

me: yep…yep it is.

i guess i now know why i dont have many friends at work.

Comment by michael
2010-07-13 17:26:12

I have to say they…our “deal” guys were big swinging…errrr…you know…during 2005 and 2006. All little donald trumps running about. Now…they run around acting like black belts in sigma…but when I mention six sigma…they look a me like I got three heads.

Comment by combotechie
2010-07-14 04:19:01

Six Sigma, lol.

Six Sigma has been implemented at the company I work for and it is systematically destroying it.

Comment by michael
2010-07-14 06:27:57

it was based on the Toyota production system if i am correct…guess that didn’t work out for them.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-07-14 06:34:03

How so combo……I’ve never had that experience so should a creative person like me avoid taking a job at these places?

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Comment by jeff saturday
2010-07-13 19:01:54

Banks repossess homes at record rates, average of 4,000 per month in South Florida
by Kim Miller
Condo Vultures is reporting an average of 4,000 South Florida properties per month were taken back by the bank during the first half of 2010, a trend seen also in monthly RealtyTrac reports on foreclosures and repossessions. (June’s RealtyTrac study will be released Thursday.)

In Palm Beach County, bank takeovers _ the final step in the foreclosure process _ jumped 112 percent compared to the same time last year

That means between 350 and 950 bank repossessions occurred per month in the first half of 2010.

According to Condo Vultures, if takeovers progress at the current pace, nearly 50,000 properties would be repossessed in South Florida in 2010.

“South Florida’s real estate market is at a crossroads,” said Peter Zalewski, a principal with the Bal Harbour, Fla.-based real estate consultancy Condo Vultures. “The number of bank repossessions in 2010 is higher than at any time in at least two decades. This additional bank-owned inventory will undoubtedly be coming onto the resale market in the near future as discounted REO product.

“The flip side is, the number of new foreclosure filings in South Florida is down 34 percent in the first half of the year, putting the region on pace for less than 70,000 actions in 2010 compared to 97,000 in 2009.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 22:01:39

My often-repeated HBB suggestion that lenders with derelict REO inventory should be charged a hefty fine if they don’t bother maintaining their properties is catching on in a big way (in LA, no less!):

Los Angeles cracks down on banks and lenders who let foreclosure property fall into disrepair
Monday, 12 July 2010

Los Angeles is getting tough on the owners of foreclosed properties who leave them empty and let them fall into disrepair by increasing fines. In particular officials are cracking down on financial institutions such as banks and mortgage companies that seize properties and leave them to fall into a state of disrepair.

It is the city’s largest attempt to date to deal with a neglected 27,000 foreclosed properties that become an eyesore and also bring down the prices of neighbouring real estate.

It is right that the banks should be held accountable to cleaning them up. A lot of vacant homes have become a nuisance because of the foreclosure crisis,’ said Betty Steele, one of several community activists who is encouraging residents to report problem properties via the city’s 311 hotline.

New rules mean that officials can hand out fines of up to $100,000 against financial institutions that seize homes and allow them to fall into disrepair. They also mean that lenders, who often don’t consider the properties their responsibility until the title is transferred, are now responsible as soon as they issue a default notice.

They also require lenders to register their inventory of properties which will make it easier for officials to identify bank owners because property records lag behind property transfers and the foreclosure market is very fluid. The new registry should allow inspectors to easily identify owners when constituents call in to complain about a property.

But the California Mortgage Bankers Association criticised the moves and said it creates unnecessary paperwork for lenders because property records already are publicly available. ‘Increased bureaucracy is not the answer. Lenders and banks have a vested interest in keeping up homes because the better condition the house is in, the more money they are going to recover when they sell that house,’ said spokesman Dustin Hobbs.

California is one of the worst hit states in terms of foreclosures and overall the number of foreclosures is still rising in the US and expected to continue doing to this year and into 2011.

Real estate foreclosures in the US reached a record for the second consecutive month in May, with increases in every state, as lenders stepped up property seizures, according to the latest report from RealtyTrac.

Bank repossessions climbed 44% from May 2009 to 93,777, while foreclosure filings, including default and auction notices, rose 1% to 322,920. One out of every 400 US households received a filing.

Senior vice president Rick Sharga warned that a quarterly record for home seizures is possible if June is anything like May. He predicted last month that another five million delinquent mortgages will end in foreclosure in addition to properties that had already been repossessed.

And it is nowhere near the peak. ‘The second quarter won’t be the peak. I’m not even sure 2010 will be,’ he said. He added that the total amount of individual filings could reach as high as 4.5 million in 2010, up from 3.9 million filings in 2009.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 22:19:56

Two months of 0.6% price declines annualizes to a rate of
((1-0.006)^12-1)*100 = -7%.

Not clear how a 7% annual rate of decline equates to “unchanged”?

Residential property prices in UK record a further fall, according to the latest index to be publish
Friday, 09 July 2010

Residential property prices in the UK fell 0.6% in June on the back of a similar decline in May and in line with predictions from leading industry commentators. The latest house prices index from the Halifax shows that prices in the April to June quarter were largely unchanged compared with the first three months of the year. This continued the slowdown in house price growth since the beginning of the year following the moderate recovery in prices during much of 2009.

‘This pattern is in line with our view that house prices will be broadly unchanged over 2010 as a whole. A shortage of properties for sale in 2009 contributed to an imbalance between supply and demand and was a key factor driving up house prices last year,’ said Martin Ellis, housing economist at the Halifax.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 22:25:20

It seemed to me today like the Fed was dumping in liquidity to green up the markets. What else explains all asset classes except the dollar rising?

* POLITICS
* JULY 14, 2010

Fed Sees Slower Growth
Officials Debate How to Respond if Recovery Falters; Softer 2nd Half Is Seen

By JON HILSENRATH

Federal Reserve officials, who are likely to reveal Wednesday a cut in their assessment of the growth outlook, are divided on how aggressively the central bank should act if the economy slows further.

Fed officials still expect the U.S. economy to keep growing. But an updated forecast to be released Wednesday afternoon with the minutes of the Fed’s late-June policy meeting is likely to show that officials have trimmed their second-half forecasts—as have many private forecasters.

One topic under debate is the possibility that today’s already-low inflation may turn into a debilitating bout of deflation, a broad drop in prices across the economy.
Journal Community

How would you rate the risk of deflation as the recovery cools?

Fed officials disagree on the risk of deflation. A few see it as a threat; others call it very unlikely, Fed officials said in recent interviews.

For now, the Fed—and particularly its most-powerful member, Chairman Ben Bernanke, who has ultimate say—appears to be very much in wait-and-see mode. But differences among his colleagues are growing more evident. One problem: Having already cut interest rates to near zero, most of the Fed’s options for spurring growth aren’t very appealing.

Some policy makers, including Fed governor Kevin Warsh and Jeffrey Lacker, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond, Va., are reluctant to revive Fed purchases of U.S. government bonds or mortgage-backed securities, the most forceful action the bank could take if it decides the economy needs more help.

Fed staff estimate that the purchase of $1.25 trillion in bonds in 2009 and early 2010 pushed down long-term interest rates by roughly half a percentage point.

But somes skeptics inside the Fed don’t believe the impact was that large and think a new round of purchases might have even less impact because markets are now on a more solid footing. Renewing the purchases would also leave the Fed with a bigger portfolio to shrink, when that time comes, and could backfire if it pushes expectations for future inflation sharply higher.

“We’re a long way away from needing to think about starting up asset purchases,” Mr. Lacker said in an interview. “The recovery will take time. We just have to be patient and manage it carefully. I don’t think this is a time to shift gears again.”

Other policy makers—among them Boston Fed President Eric Rosengren, New York Fed President Bill Dudley and, to a lesser extent, Atlanta Fed President Dennis Lockhart—see reviving the purchases as an option that needs to be kept alive, particularly if deflation becomes reality.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 22:33:40

We in the West are economically hosed. Get used to it — the situation is likely to continue for the rest of your life.

The Financial Times
Three years and new fault lines threaten
By Martin Wolf
Published: July 13 2010 22:45 | Last updated: July 13 2010 23:04

It is nearly three years since the world became aware of the coming financial tremors. Since then we have experienced a financial sector earthquake, a collapse in economic activity and an unprecedented monetary and fiscal response. The world economy has now recovered. But this crisis is far from over.

As Raghuram Rajan of the University of Chicago Booth School of Business and former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund notes in a thought-provoking new book, the underlying “fault lines” are still with us.* More trouble may lie ahead. His voice is worth listening to: in 2005, he presented a controversial, yet now acclaimed, paper at the annual Jackson Hole monetary conference entitled “Has Financial Development Made the World Riskier?” His answer? Yes.

We already know that the earthquake of the past few years has damaged western economies, while leaving those of emerging countries, particularly Asia, standing. It has also destroyed western prestige. The west has dominated the world economically and intellectually for at least two centuries. That epoch is over (see charts). Hitherto, the rulers of emerging countries disliked the west’s pretensions, but respected its competence. This is true no longer. Never again will the west have the sole word. The rise of the Group of 20 leading economies reflects new realities of power and authority.

Yet this is far from the only change in the global landscape. The crisis has revealed deep faults within western economies and the global economy as a whole. We may be unable to avoid further earthquakes.

In his book, Prof Rajan points to domestic political stresses within the US. Related stresses are emerging in western Europe. I think of it as the end of “the deal”. What was that deal? It was the post-second-world-war settlement: in the US, the deal centred on full employment and high individual consumption. In Europe, it centred on state-provided welfare.

In the US, soaring inequality and stagnant real incomes have long threatened this deal. Thus, Prof Rajan notes that “of every dollar of real income growth that was generated between 1976 and 2007, 58 cents went to the top 1 per cent of households”. This is surely stunning.

“The political response to rising inequality . . . was to expand lending to households, especially low-income ones.” This led to the financial breakdown. As Prof Rajan notes: “ [the financial sector’s] failings in the recent crisis include distorted incentives, hubris, envy, misplaced faith and herd behaviour. But the government helped make those risks look more attractive than they should have been and kept the market from exercising discipline.”

The era of easy credit, much of it backed by housing, is now over (see chart). Meanwhile, in all western countries, the state supports the welfare of the individual. But the fiscal consequences of this crisis – a huge rise in deficits – will interact with pressures from ageing, to make fiscal stringency the theme of policy for decades. The long bear market in shares and prospects for a “jobless recovery” add further to these woes.

Global output

It is little wonder then that the politics of western countries and, above all, of the US have become discordant. President Barack Obama – a pragmatic centrist – is vilified. On the right, the call is to overthrow the modern government in an effort to return to the 18th century. This, then, is a crisis of government itself.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-13 22:48:26

I’m definitely an Austrian, and the Fed seems determined to prove our point.

The Financial Times
Leverage crises nature’s way of saying slow down
By Jamil Baz
Published: July 13 2010 16:05 | Last updated: July 13 2010 16:05

Much has changed in the world economy over the past three years, but then nothing has changed. In 2007, the ratio of total debt to gross domestic product was 350 per cent in the US. In the intervening period, we have seen the near collapse of the world financial system, followed by deep recession and ultimately recovery, fuelled by the biggest monetary and fiscal stimulus in history.

It is a fact that, despite this being a crisis of leverage, total debt to GDP remains at 350 per cent in the US, and at higher levels in many of the world’s leading developed economies, for example Japan and the UK. Over the longer term, the cost of deleveraging imposes a massive burden on a country’s finances, ensuring recovery will be anaemic at best.

Although there are no definitive answers, 200 per cent of total debt to GDP is a level consistent with healthy growth, based on pre-1995 conditions. A realistic assumption is that the world can cut back its debts by 10 percentage points of GDP a year, meaning that we face 15 years of low growth or no growth at all.

Under a less optimistic scenario, this striving is all in vain: if GDP stagnates, and tax revenues fall, and interest rates rise, leverage might rise after all, despite valiant attempts to chop it. This is what happened in numerous Latin America debt crises and what looks likely to transpire in Greece or Ireland. Both these countries are entering the first stages of what will be a long period of austerity, with uncertain prospects of returning to economic growth.

There are two schools of thought on how to respond. On the one hand, we have the new and unexpected coalition of monetarists and Keynesians. The so-called “Washington consensus” sees policymakers in the US pursuing a combination of fiscal expansion and monetary stimulus, thus uniting former ideological enemies in an attempt to reprime the world financial and economic system.

On the other, there is the Austrian school, which draws on the ideas of Ludwig von Mises, Carl Menger, Friedrich von Hayek and others, and is given expression in the restrictive monetary and fiscal policy favoured by the EU today. These economists are social libertarians who believe the role of the state in society should be limited. While this conjures up visions of Tea Party extremists and hillbillies decamping to Montana, their ideas have a substantial intellectual pedigree. They see governments as vehicles for expropriating citizens. They have a low opinion of money-printing central banks and money-creating fractional banking systems.

The Austrians believe that central bank intervention results in misallocation and ultimately the destruction of capital. Far from curbing the excesses of leverage, this policy is creating more intoxicating debt and sowing the seeds of further booms, busts and crises.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-07-13 23:22:02

“The Austrians believe that central bank intervention results in misallocation and ultimately the destruction of capital. Far from curbing the excesses of leverage, this policy is creating more intoxicating debt and sowing the seeds of further booms, busts and crises.”

Speaking of “seeds”,… just watched a dvd on old Mr. Van Gogh with Mr. Cole…any chance that “Great Art” is being done today in spite of Death & Destruction & the US citizens voluntarily stuck with a Non-Hawaiian? What about music, math, genetics, military devices of destruction…is it all about what the world can afford at the “moment”?

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-14 05:28:27

‘…any chance that “Great Art” is being done today in spite of Death & Destruction & the US citizens voluntarily stuck with a Non-Hawaiian?’

Highly likely! Art is long, but life is short. Once this sorry episode in history is behind us, the wheat kernels of our generation’s best art will begin to separate themselves from the chaff, and future generations will start nostalgically associating our era with the stamp of these artists, rather than with the shackles that presently threaten American freedoms.

Now I feel like listening to some Gershwin…

 
 
 
Comment by Spook
2010-07-14 02:17:30

Great art is always being produced. The problem is the large volume of “stupid money” produces large volumes of stupid art which drowns out the small volume of great art which is independant of money.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-14 05:36:23

“…large volumes of stupid art which drowns out the small volume of great art which is independant of money.”

No chaff, no grain. And time suffices to separate them.

If you are into classical music, find yourself and listen to a recording of Mozart’s “A Musical Joke.” He was mocking the chaff of his day, which no longer is heard, while his own music lives.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-14 05:22:38

Too bad the financial reformer legislators ignored this guy.

‘Break up the banks, bust the trusts!’ exclaims Olbermann
David Edwards and Stephen C. Webster
Published: Friday March 20, 2009

Keith Olbermann used his Thursday Special Comment on MSNBC’s Countdown to lay out one of his most impassioned tirades yet, this time a diatribe against “the latest atrocity” from banks he feels the US should “break up” and regulate “to within an inch of their existences.”

Yelling several times, “Enough!” during his monologue, Olbermann recounted the recent history of Vikram Pandit, the CEO of Citigroup who vowed to reduce his salary to just $1 a year and accept no bonus in the face of his company losing over $5 billion and laying off over 9,000 people.

When he was first made CEO, Citigroup was already reeling from losses of between eight and 11 billion dollars.

“… what Mr. Pandit got was a new 10 million dollar executive suite for himself and his key associates,” said Olbermann. “… In fact, he then accepted a total compensation package for 2008 of 38 million dollars.”

“Mr. Pandit, you‘re probably just a good actor and a damned liar and a con man,” he continued. “But I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume instead, that you just can’t tell the difference between one dollar and 38 million of them. That would certainly explain the maelstrom into which you, and your colleagues at Citi and your counterparts elsewhere, have gotten us, including the vast majority of us who are just innocent bystanders.

“… Mr. Pandit’s corporation should be cut up into little pieces. And when he and the other ultra-millionaires wonder what hit them, we should make sure they are easily reminded. Our representatives should entitle the legislation that ends their moral ponzi schemes, ‘The Punish Vikram Pandit Act of 2009.’”

Olbermann isn’t the only media figure with sharpened words for America’s bankers. On Thursday’s New York Times op-ed page, Simon Johnson and James Kwak posited an analogy between the current financial crisis and the executive “smokescreen” that drove the series of Asian market collapses in 1997.

Arguments made by their bankers, then, are quite similar to our bankers, today, they wrote.

“The leaders of Thailand and South Korea did not listen to such arguments, and thank goodness. Some of the leading Thai banks were taken over by the government. After the crisis, a civil servant in charge of one such bank noted that its bad loans were much bigger than had been indicated before the takeover, largely because of an internal coverup. Only when outsiders took over did the public discover the full scope of the losses.

“The South Korean government also demanded that the banks and the chaebols make a clean break. This generated a great deal of political noise — particularly when foreign managers were brought in, as when the Carlyle Group bought a stake in KorAm Bank in 2000 and Lone Star Funds purchased the Korea Exchange Bank in 2003.

“But these reforms made all the difference.”

“The far right in this country, without the slightest provocation or justification, screams ’socialism,’ and the sheep who follow that far right, and who do not know what the word means and do not know it is only being used because ‘communism’ now rings laughably hollow—in this cry of fire in a crowded unemployment line, there is outrage, to be sure,” said Olbermann.

But there is also license. They think this is socialism? There is a million miles of reform left to go before we actually hit actual socialism. But if they’re going to call us names, whether they apply or not, let’s give them real reform.

“Break up the banks. Regulate the financial industries, to within an inch of their existences. Roll back corporate legal protections. Make liable the officers of corporations for their debts and for their deeds. Resurrect the rallying cry of a hundred years past: bust the trusts!

This video is from MSNBC’s Countdown, broadcast Mar. 19, 2009.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-07-14 05:32:43

“But these reforms made all the difference.”

Two roads diverged in a wood, and I–
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.

– Robert Frost –

 
 
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