August 2, 2010

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 03:58:51

I have a defeatist attitude today…Ill never be first again

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 06:17:40

Boy the stupid things i do to cheer myself up….. i am happy again.

Comment by denquiry
2010-08-02 07:16:10

Just beat it.

 
Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 07:51:07

How do we know that Ben just didn’t moderate out other posts to make you first? I guess reverse psychology works…

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 04:23:00

Homeownership rate continues to slide. ~ USA TODAY

John Burns, CEO of John Burns Real Estate Consulting, a national housing market analyst based in Irvine, Calif., estimates that 6 million of the 8 million homeowners who are behind on their mortgages will lose their homes to lenders in the next two years.

Millions of houses on the verge of foreclosure threaten to send homeownership to its lowest level in 50 years, according to new industry estimates.

Fresh projections say the rate could plummet to about 62% as early as 2012 and almost certainly by the end of the decade. Homeownership rates haven’t been that low since they hit 61.9% in 1960.

The share of households that own their homes has been sliding since the housing bubble burst in 2006. The rate fell again in the second quarter of this year to 66.9% — the lowest since 1999 — from a peak of 69.4% in 2004, the Census Bureau says.

“Anybody who knows anything about housing thought it would be flat in the second quarter,” says John Burns, CEO of John Burns Real Estate Consulting, a national housing market analyst based in Irvine, Calif. “Homeownership fell during the quarter when government was offering a tax credit (to first-time homebuyers). What do you think is going to happen now that there’s no tax credit?”

Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 04:44:26

“Anybody who knows anything about housing thought it would be flat in the second quarter,”

except that nobody knew anything, save the HBB and the smoke-filled rooms at Morgan Stan and Golden Sacks who quietly shorted the own MBS.

However, I’m likin’ the sound of 6 million foreclosures. Banks can’t hide that much inventory. And it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Obama’s new “Hey, rentin’ ain’t so bad” policy is the first trial balloon to guage (or prepare) the public for a massive deleveraging just after the 2010 elections.

Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-02 04:55:41

At first glance, I read that as “snorted their own MBS,” which wouldn’t be that far from the truth either….

 
Comment by SV guy
2010-08-02 05:09:06

“And it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Obama’s new “Hey, rentin’ ain’t so bad” policy is the first trial balloon to guage (or prepare) the public for a massive deleveraging just after the 2010 elections.”

Followed up with a new gubmint cheese campaign. Picture the great one gumming’ a piece of cardboard pizza. “you know, this stuff is pretty good”.

Oxide,

I have felt for a while now that after the November elections the zoo keeper will open the door and let a few animals out (the 800 lb gorilla in the room, etc.).

And it will all be “unforeseen”.

Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 05:37:39

I think you’re right about another big bank going down. Maybe AIG?

Makes me wonder about HAMP. I think they really tried to help people with HAMP. However, I think the gov got a couple Oh Crap moments when they found out just how many people were swimming naked, how deep the water really was, and that banks would rather eat their own gov cheese instead of cooperating on refi’s.

There just isn’t enough ink to extend and pretend anymore. I expect that now HAMP and the other programs are just there to airlift out the credit-worthy, before bombing the rest of the entire village into glass, so to speak.

Maybe that’s why Obama and Geithner are hedging about making Elizabeth Warren the public face of consumer protection. How can you secretly allow millions of people to foreclose, while she’s publicly flashing charts about the millions of consumer BK’s?

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Comment by Red Beach Red Beard
2010-08-02 05:57:21

“I expect that now HAMP and the other programs are just there to airlift out the credit-worthy, before bombing the rest of the entire village into glass, so to speak.”

Wow, nice wordstuffs here.

 
Comment by combotechie
2010-08-02 06:11:49

“I think they really tried to help people with HAMP.”

I think HAMP wasn’t designed to help FBs but to offer them hope. As long as there is hope then the FBs will struggle to keep their house payments flowing into the banks.

IMHO HAMP wasn’t about saving the FBs, it was about saving the banks.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 06:22:30

OX:

Its just like the other day a lady got a $21 a month reduction on her modification…to me that was the bank giving her the middle finger. I hope she said I’ll be back tomorrow with the keys. a whole whopping 1% off.

and that banks would rather eat their own gov cheese instead of cooperating on refi’s.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 06:58:48

+10 Saving the banks gives the public the illusion that their money is safe…

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 07:43:45

The goal is always to save the large banks. However, the whole concept of HAMP is a fraud. How much “help” do you think the government should provide “homeowners” who agreed to pay $100,000 more for a house that sold for that much less, just 2 years before?? In my opinion, NONE.
If they can’t float the note, they can go for a swim.

But, more importantly, what message does that send out to the rest of the people who are paying their bills, even if they don’t have much equity at current market prices???
Where’s my “modification”? Shouldn’t i get one, too??

 
Comment by rms
2010-08-02 11:24:52

“There just isn’t enough ink to extend and pretend anymore. I expect that now HAMP and the other programs are just there to airlift out the credit-worthy, before bombing the rest of the entire village into glass, so to speak.”

This economic flight is doomed to crash; nose in means no survivors whereas the cartwheel landing might see a few souls staggering away in shredded clothing. The only certainty is that it’s going to be an expensive landing. Thank you for flying with Inflation Airlines.

 
 
Comment by Cassandra
2010-08-02 06:51:50

What’s wrong with government housing? Obama lives in government housing. How much is his rent?

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Comment by palmetto
2010-08-02 07:20:50

Buddy of mine has a Fannie-Mae house in foreclosure. According to him, they’re going to do a leaseback. In other words, he loses the “ownership” to Fannie Mae, but gains a lower rent than his mortgage payment was.

Wow.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 07:24:20

Bet the White House doesn’t even have granite tops and travertine bathrooms. They should bulldoze that dated shack and upgrade to a faux med-stlye stucco mcmansion with lots of styrofoam pillars and to bring it up to date. Maybe build some luxury condoze on the property to sell to megacorp CEOs and recoup some stimulus bux.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 07:42:29

Bet the White House doesn’t even have granite tops and travertine bathrooms

It doesn’t. Not that I know from personal experience, mind you.

However, the White House is getting a major upgrade to its electrical and mechanical systems. Pretty big project, and one that’s expected to last for several years.

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:11:50

“…In other words, he loses the “ownership” to Fannie Mae, but gains a lower rent than his mortgage payment was”

You understand that this severely limit’s his desires & abilities to paint the house pink with lime-green trim right?

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-02 08:21:55

IIRC Bill Clinton never owned a house until after his administration. He went from the Arkansas governor’s mansion (public housing) to the White House (public housing). That house he and Hillary bought in NY was IIUC their first.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:08:06

However, the White House is getting a major upgrade to its electrical and mechanical systems. Pretty big project, and one that’s expected to last for several years.

It would take even longer except that Harry Truman (who rebuilt the White House from ground up) insisted that detailed mechanical plans needed to be done on all systems during the construction. They were not going to do that at first. source: David McCullough’s Truman

“What’s this wire for?”

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-08-02 13:39:00

“IIRC Bill Clinton never owned a house until after his administration.”

As I recall that was supposed to be a bad rap on him too. Looks pretty smart in retrospect. He knew he was going places…why bother owning.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:16:50

Harry Truman (who rebuilt the White House from ground up) insisted that detailed mechanical plans needed to be done on all systems during the construction. They were not going to do that at first.

No mechanical plans at first? Whiskey tango foxtrot was their architect thinking? Or was it the general contractor? Or both?

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 16:21:49

No mechanical plans at first? Whiskey tango foxtrot was their architect thinking? Or was it the general contractor? Or both?

I forgot who exactly but I was surprised how hands-on Truman had to be and of that fact. My copy of Truman is in Rio but I’ll look it up when I get back next week.

It’s a great book.

 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 07:36:50

I have felt for a while now that after the November elections the zoo keeper will open the door…………..
There are a great many of us who a very concerned about the aftermath of the November elections.
Obama and the democrats have already shown that they will pursue any policy they deem philosophically inline with their socialist utopian dream. The crammed down “healthcare”. Shafted us with “financial reform”, and a chompin’ at the bit to give us “cap and trade”.
I am convinced that Pelosi and Reid will go into overdrive, holding weekend and late night sessions to “legislate” the new Amerika while they still hold office. It’s quite alarming.
We may even get stuck with Kagan, who cares not one wit about the Constitution, but thinks the rules of law should be whatever way she says they should be. Along with the other “open-minded” internationalist “judges”, she will overturn any rule of Constitutional law currently on the books.
That is also a great concern. We should all be terrified.

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Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 07:53:41

What, no mention of the evil “Public Unions?” That’s the newest meme to emanate from Talking Point Central. It’s all over the CNN comment boards…

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:15:50

Hey now, are the “Shadow” Gov’t offices like x2 star quality or what?

Let’s ask Cheney, he should know… ;-)

 
Comment by cactus
2010-08-02 09:11:50

What, no mention of the evil “Public Unions?” That’s the newest meme to emanate from Talking Point Central. It’s all over the CNN comment boards…”

And the city of Bell is the poster city for government high pay and benifits.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:18:58

And the city of Bell is the poster city for government high pay and benifits.

And all those city managers weren’t even union.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:20:20

Obama and the democrats have already shown that they will pursue any policy they deem philosophically inline with their socialist utopian dream. The crammed down “healthcare”. Shafted us with “financial reform”, and a chompin’ at the bit to give us “cap and trade”.

??????? Do you even know what the words you are using mean sometimes? Or what is really going on in America? Yea man, we’re really another Denmark here…

I saw a really bummed out, ill and broke 50 year old ex-factory worker last month. His T-shirt said:

They say my country went Socialist but all I got was this lousy T-shirt

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 10:39:41

“…the city of Bell, CA”

“There’s a city government…taxpayers can choke on!” :-)

 
Comment by Nudge
2010-08-02 17:00:59

“Obama and the democrats have already shown that they will pursue any policy they deem philosophically inline with their socialist utopian dream.”

If this is socialism, where are the following:

- comprehensive subsidized cradle-2-grave healthcare

- maternity leave of 12+ months

- sub-40hour work week, with mandatory 6 weeks of vacation for all employees, public or private

- redistribution of wealth from richer to poorer

- state-subsidized higher education for those with brains, not those with Daddy’s megabux

- comprehensive public transportation systems, high fuel taxes to discourage automobile use, strong government support of bicycling instead of driving SUVs

Time for your tea!

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 18:26:49

Rules and regulations for out of control corporations plus consumer protection = socialeesm.

Loss of real freedom for citizens because OF corporate control = capitalism

 
 
 
 
Comment by rentor
2010-08-02 05:00:36

I assume “own their homes” means no mortgage? If that’s the case that number is too high. Approximately one-third of homeowners don’t have a loan against their homes.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-08-02 06:01:49

“Own” never means debt free in a debt based economy. To suggest that debt is not wealth just wouldn’t make sense.

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-08-02 10:13:20

“Approximately one-third of homeowners don’t have a loan against their homes.”

Some of this niche is the wealthy, but a vast majority of no mortgage households will not be with us in 20 years. (the beginning of boomer die off) There’ll be a lot of excess inventory coming back on.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 11:53:00

Carrie..what if the kids are not doing well? some might move back in to save $$$$$ not everyone sells right after the old folks die.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 18:48:54

If they moved back in, do you really think they can afford the mortgage or upkeep?

I know when my parents die, their house will have to be sold. It’s far too big just one or two people.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 21:17:28

Eco:

Ever hear of roommates? Seriously if there is no mortgage chances are the total monthly cost is less then the rent the kids are paying now.

 
 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 12:23:20

And all those boomers thought of their home
as their cash out for retirement.

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Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-08-02 15:24:20

Forget retirement, in 20-30 years most of the boomers just won’t be around anymore period. Better let some more illegals in to keep up w/housing supply.

 
 
 
 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-02 05:53:13

So the Lying Realtors latest smoke blown up the a$$es of potential buyers is “I don’t have a crystal ball, but ___”.

Now I believe we could quiz a typical 6th grader and get a reasonable forecast on what happens when you have a growing supply of a widgets.

But Lying Realtors of the 35 year old vintage can only say “I don’t have a crystal ball”.

PS- This latest charade(the crystal ball) is a type of backpedalling from “it’s a great time to buy”. And yes…. most of them are saying it’s a great time to buy. Take a look at Trulia question and answer forum and see for yourself.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 06:37:21

This latest charade;“I don’t have a crystal ball, but, but,…” is a type of…

…suffering psychological self-delusion to RESTORE their taste-buds to the sweet, sweet nectar they’ve become ADDICTED to:

The SINGLE transaction/ DEPOSIT “earned income” dutch-tulip syndrome.

(The “itch” that feels sooooooooooooooooooo good to scratch!) ;-)

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-08-02 09:46:04

The one we were taught to say:
When someone asks “How long have you been selling homes (or been in real estate)?”

“It feels like forever.” (like that would cover you arse.)

Coming out of commercial, I was use to the world of difinitive answers.

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Comment by shy
2010-08-02 13:30:53

Long, long-time lurker. apologize for never posting, but it’s not my way to contribute my opinion.

I have a question for the group, and would appreciate any contributions (recognizing that my lurker status doesn’t entitle me to anyone’s wisdom).

My mother recently passed away, and I’ve inherited (with my two brothers) her house. It’s a nice 4/3.5 in a very close-in DC suburb, which I am thinking about buying. My brothers looked at Zillow, which listed the place at 800K+; they’ve agreed - to save hassles and because they’re good guys and have houses themselves - to sell it to me for a big discount off that price and with my third off. Bottom line, it will be about a 450K price. Should I do it?

Again, any contributions would be very welcome. Thanks.

 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-02 14:43:44

Will it cashflow at that price?

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 14:53:09

Bottom line, it will be about a 450K price. Should I do it?

Welcome. Sorry about your mom.

800K-1/3=533K 533-450=83K

It’s complicated. I’d think about:
1. You’re getting 83K off Zillow. What does that mean?
2. Do you need a house like that?
3. Do you want that house and its memories?
4. Is your job secure?
5. Do you plan to stay for at least 7-10 years?
6. Do you want or need the cash more than that house?

I’d research the tax ramifications of selling and cashing out after real estate commissions and lawyers or whatever. I’d buy it if I wanted it, needed it and could afford it and if I could sleep well at night if the value went down a lot.

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 15:10:45

Shy:
Your brothers are probably Not nice guys just greedy…maybe at $250K it would be fine…..

You have found out why its $800K nobody knows how to use a calculator

What are the taxes? insurance? repairs and what would the monthly mortgage payment be?

Total it all up and then will it rent for that price?

Remember an investment means PROFIT——not LOSS

Again, any contributions would be very welcome. Thanks.

 
Comment by Watching The Carnage
2010-08-02 17:44:02

Shy,

I just spent the last two years going through this exact situation on my wifes’ side. My wife wanted to buy the house from her two siblings. A 4/3 two car garage built in the late 70’s in a nice community just outside of the beltway in Maryland. She thought it would be a good investment that we could rent for the resulting mortgage.

Rio gave you a great check-list and response to your inquiry. If I had asked my wife those questions we would probably have taken a different course of action.

Recent total upgrades and a corner lot made the place attractive. Her brother and sister were reasonable and arrived at numbers that look similar to yours.

We wound up not buying the house which turned out to be a a good thing. Her father’s affairs were well managed and left in a good state. It still took two years to finally settle and during those two years values dropped by nearly 35% and ongoing insurance, taxes and maintenance and legal costs ate deeply into the asset value.

Had my wife and I bought at the original deal we would not be in good shape. Luckily we wound up selling the property and sharing the proceeds by thirds. Oh, and don’t forget to factor in the tax liabilities/disbursement requirements even if assets are held in a trust. The legal costs and cash outflow from the estate was numbing over the course of estate settlement.

Go back to Rio’s post - she is right on. Unless there are compelling personal reasons or location, timing or other things that would make this the ideal solution for you over the course of years then I would pass. Maybe invest yourself in an independent appraisal - I would never trust Zillow for real estate values - heck my Zillow home value this past thirty days just dropped by $59,000.00 in thirty days…after having increased by $74,000.00 just two months ago.

Good luck Shy - sorry to hear about your loss, but I can tell you from experience that dealing with that house is going to be a fluid situation. Remain flexible and don’t make decisions too quickly.

 
 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 07:02:11

There has never been a better time to rent a crystal-ball.

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-02 09:48:02

Take a look at Trulia question and answer forum and see for yourself.

I declare “National Make a Realtor Cry Day”

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 10:35:57

:-)

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 06:43:54

“…estimates that 6 million of the 8 million homeowners who are behind on their mortgages will lose their homes to lenders in the next two years.”

Would 6 to 8 million new foreclosures be considered ‘worse than expected’? I suppose short sales would be counted under the ‘lose their homes’ heading?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:21:26

“…I suppose short sales would be counted under the ‘lose their homes’ heading?”

How to adjust focus:

“Just twist the “In-voluntary” lens to the “Voluntary” position…Shazam!, you now have 20-20 vision.” ;-)

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 04:36:59

As spending by wealthy weakens, so does economy.
Wealthy are watching their spending again, casting a cloud over the nation’s economic recovery.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Wealthy Americans aren’t spending so freely anymore. And the rest of us are feeling the squeeze.

The question is whether the rich will cut back so much as to tip the economy back into recession — or if they will spend at least enough to sustain the recovery.

The answer may not be clear for months. But their cutbacks help explain why the rebound could be stalling. The economy grew at just a 2.4 percent rate in the April-June quarter, the government said Friday, much slower than the 3.7 percent rate for the first quarter.

Economists say overall consumer spending has slowed mainly because the richest 5 percent of Americans — those earning at least $207,000 — are buying less. They account for about 14 percent of total spending. These shoppers have retrenched as their investment values have sunk and home values have languished.

In addition, the most sweeping tax cuts in a generation are due to expire in January, and lawmakers are divided over whether the government can afford to make any of them permanent as the federal budget deficit continues to balloon. President Barack Obama wants to allow the top rates to increase next year for individuals making more than $200,000 and couples making more than $250,000. The wealthy may be keeping some money on the sidelines due to uncertainty over whether or not they will soon face higher taxes.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 06:32:21

Funny how no one seems to care about the middle class, who account for the other 86% of spending.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 06:48:41

Ugh! So confusing, which consumer is it that matters again? Which one is going to pull us “out”? The high end trust funders, or the low end, end of their rope 99 weekers?

If unemployment is cut, the consumer will falter. If the decider’s tax cuts expire the consumer will falter. All that’s left is to spend, spend, spend into oblivion.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 07:53:44

“All that’s left is to spend, spend, spend into oblivion.”

Alas, you have come to understand the Federal Reserve System of Capitalism. That’s how it works. And for a while, if you are in the business of selling their money, or working trades with new prints, you have amassed a fortune in assets.
For the rest, just spend, spend and go back to work to get some more to spend. The Fed will print some more, so you can get some more to spend. Is this a great Country or what?

 
 
Comment by Rental Watch
2010-08-02 08:39:54

Are they slowing their spending because their home value went down, or because they think they might get a tax increase in 5 months? Home values and stock market values were down long ago…the only thing new recently is the rhetoric about letting the Bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy.

Comment by exeter
2010-08-02 09:37:39

Don’t you know…… we need rich people…. we NEEEEEEEEED them……

Oh dear Dear Martha!!!!! what will we do without our wealthy corporatist elite?

 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-08-02 10:23:45

Several people I know in this income category are either concerned that funding for their positions may be in jeopardy or have already been told to start canvasing other branches of their megolith corporation for another position. There is downsizing going on in some of the cushier corporate addresses too.

The difference between them and other people in unemployment lines is they’ve got quite a nice cushion to sustain them for a while. There is no panic, in some not even a reduction in lifestyle. There is only a methodical preparation. Their sprawling home is not for sale nor their “fun” vehicles, yet there may be stubborn concern over a $5 purchase.

Comment by Rental Watch
2010-08-02 12:01:53

I agre CarrieAnn.

It’s just human nature. Many of the folks that I know who fall into this category start looking at where they spend money when they have concerns that they might have less of it, and adjust their spending accordingly.

This could be as simple as drinking wine from the wine cellar/room/fridge as opposed to buying new wine; or

Stopping at two grocery stores, one for hard goods and one for produce/meat; or

NOT buying the VERY nice clothes, but just the quite nice ones.

Uncertainty causes people to pull back. It’s as simple as that.

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Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 12:44:02

It’s called Hunker down time, we all do it.

Learning to do with less is good for the soul.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 18:55:04

Doing with less is good… to a point… and lot of people are being forced past that point.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 18:53:08

What’s the name of that sock puppet who wrote that article?

Comment by fisher
2010-08-02 19:27:48

Glad I’m not the only one who looks at bylines of this sub pravda crapola. The guilty party:
JEANNINE AVERSA
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100801/ap_on_bi_ge/us_wealthy_cut_back

It even has the inevitable quote from Mark Zandi. Doesn’t it make you want to just roll in it? Like a dog in shiiiiiite?

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 04:41:52

We’re gonna need more BARF(bad assist relief fantasy) money…

AP analysis: US economic stress heads back up
Nation’s economic pain worsened in June after 4 months of improvement
August 2, 2010

After easing for four months, the nation’s economic stress worsened in June because more bankruptcies in the West and foreclosures outside the Sun Belt outweighed lower unemployment, according to The Associated Press’ monthly analysis of conditions around the country.

The setback halted a drop in month-to-month stress readings that had begun in February. In May, economic stress had declined from the previous month in 33 states. And in April, stress fell in every state but two.

But in June, bankruptcy rates rose in Utah, California, Colorado and Idaho. Higher foreclosures spread to the Midwest, particularly Illinois. This occurred even as foreclosures eased in states that have suffered most from the housing bust, such as Arizona, California, Florida and Nevada.

More than two-thirds of the nation’s 3,141 counties, and 37 of 50 states, endured more hardship in June than in May, the AP’s Economic Stress Index shows.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-02 05:36:06

It looks as if Phase 2 of this Great Contraction is settling in.

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 05:59:06

Stock market futures up 100 points. Not to worry.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-02 06:17:14

We are saved!

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 06:30:47

Over a 130 points up! The recession is over… Phew!

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Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 07:04:42

Stock market movement has been better than expected lately. “Better than realistic” is more fitting, however.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 07:06:50

Hardly any news on this, but congress repealed the liability cap for oil drilling companies last Friday. It means that smaller
companies are out of business and that the only one’s with enough assets will be able
to drill. Think the big Four. Chevron is up.

 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 07:36:50

Uncle Buck is taking it on the chin again, so what’s really going on here?

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:54:07

“…so what’s really going on here?”

Doubtless part of the story is foreign investors snapping up U.S. assets on the cheap…

 
Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 07:57:48

Looks like a massive pump and dump. Except instead of just one company like Enron, they’re colluding to pump and dump the entire DOW.

 
Comment by pmseatac
2010-08-02 11:04:58

Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 07:06:50

“Hardly any news on this, but congress repealed the liability cap for oil drilling companies last Friday. It means that smaller
companies are out of business and that the only one’s with enough assets will be able
to drill. Think the big Four. Chevron is up.”

The large oil companies do not drill. The drilling operations are contracted out. I used to work on offshore rigs - my employer was Hughs/Baker. The rigs that I worked on were owned by various companies such as Brown and Root, Sedco, Odeco, etc. Halliburton did cementing. Supplies were brought out by numerous small operators on workboats. The helicopters were owned by another company. The cooks and catering are yet another company, the divers worked for a separate company, etc. Every offshore drilling operation has a dozen or more contractor companies on board doing the actual work, while a representative of whichever large company that owns the lease oversees the operation.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:02:45

Exactly, pmseatac.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 05:03:45

State-Owned Bidders Fuel China’s Land Boom

WUHU, China — The Anhui Salt Industry Corporation is a state-owned company that has 11,000 employees, access to government salt mines and a Communist Party boss.

Now it has swaggered into a new line of business: real estate.

The company is developing a complex of luxury high-rises here called Platinum Bay on a parcel it acquired last year by outbidding two other developers to win a local government land auction.

Anhui Salt is hardly alone among big state-owned companies. The China Railway Group is developing residential complexes in Beijing after winning the auction for a huge piece of land there.

Likewise, the China Ordnance Group, a state-led military manufacturer best known for amphibious assault weapons, paid $260 million for Beijing property where it plans to build luxury residences and retail outlets.

And in one of China’s biggest land deals yet, the state-run shipbuilder Sino Ocean paid $1.3 billion last December and March to buy two giant tracts from Beijing’s municipal government to develop residential communities.

All around the nation, giant state-owned oil, chemical, military, telecom and highway groups are bidding up prices on sprawling plots of land for big real estate projects unrelated to their core businesses.

“These are the ones that have the money to buy the land,” says Prof. Deng Yongheng at the National University in Singapore. “Because in China, it’s the government that controls the money supply and the spending.”

By driving up property prices, the state-owned companies, which are ultimately controlled by the national government, are working at cross-purposes with the central government’s effort to keep China’s real estate boom from becoming a debt-driven speculative bubble — like the one that devastated Western financial markets when it burst two years ago.

Comment by Red Beach Red Beard
2010-08-02 06:06:06

2017: Asians are riding around on Harleys, pejoratively calling them “Cornburners.”

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 08:33:57

That’s funny. Only problem is, the reason you saw “rice” around here all these years was that they were the best you could get as far as performance per dollar goes. What are we going to make for Asians that’s the best they can get? Besides weapons…

Comment by roger
2010-08-02 11:35:45

Box wine

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:04:09

…and fast food.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-08-02 06:06:50

Excellent plan. Government buys property from itself. What will happen to these Party Leaders when the investment bubble goes south?

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:04:09

What will happen to these Party Leaders when the investment bubble goes south?
Let’s just do a quick comparison. Bernanke bought how much in bad mortgages from the Banks?? 1.5 Trillion? Isn’t that the latest figure.
The FED is holding those “assets” until it can “re-inflate” the economy and release them back into the market place at face value.
When will this happen? 2034? who knows.
The diabolical and underhanded way that they FED functions shelters the Party Leaders from the workings of the banking system.
I doubt most Americans have the slightest clue what’s happened with our “financial system” over the past 2 years. And it is done in such a way that the politicians can hide behind the expert “testimony” of people like Bernanke, Geithner, and Summers, rather than passing laws that restrict their behaviour and putting them in prison.
I doubt most Chinese have too much concern about their system, either. And, like ours, even if they did, there is nothing they can do about it.

Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-02 10:28:04

When you explain this to people, Diogenes, it may help to add that the SEC can now refuse to consider anything it wants.

This time next year, we’ll all be talking about The Regulation of the Week. Kinda like the Movie of the Weeks that were prevalent on television during the 1970s, but a lot less entertaining.

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Comment by Sean@boston
2010-08-02 08:11:08

they will immigrate to USA and Canada to become slumlords. Actually, many of them are doing it.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:33:45

“…they will immigrate to USA and Canada to become slumlords”

Choice #1: Vancouver, Canada over any city in AZ. ;-)

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:29:44

“…by outbidding two other developers to win a local government land auction”

In communist China:

1. ALL real estate is “local”
2. ALL communist Gov’t power is “local”

(Note for item 2: Occasionally the family names & locations vary from place to place & from time to time, much depends on how “the people” vote.)

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 06:52:21

Once upon a time in America news of such central planning lunacy would be a cause of ridicule. Today, however, our politicos are probably taking notes.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:06:03

taking notes, hell, we’re leading the way!!!

 
Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-02 10:31:50

When Pravda marvels at the speed at which America is moving toward central autocratic control, not much else needs to be said.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:11:49

You have problem with Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™, comrade?

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 05:05:44

US Dollar Will Lose Reserve Currency Status, Harvard’s Niall Ferguson Says
Aug 1, 2010

The US dollar will eventually lose its status as the international reserve currency to the Chinese yuan, perhaps withing five years, Harvard University historian Niall Ferguson said at a presentation in the Diggers and Dealers conference in Kalgoorlie, Western Australia, today. Investors are moving toward a “de facto” gold standard, he said.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-02 05:13:36

Linky?

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-02 05:20:01

Never mind the link, I found the article on Bloomberg; The article doesn’t say anything more than your post.

Comment by Blue Skye
2010-08-02 06:08:44

Dig and Deal.

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Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 06:27:40

From Reuters: “Australia’s annual Diggers & Dealers mining and investment conference runs from Aug. 2-4 in the gold-prospecting hub of Kalgoorlie, with Chinese demand and a proposed new resource tax in focus.”

Sounds like Ferguson tailored his speech to play Pander Bear to the goldbugs who paid his speaking fee. Nothing more.

And would the China even want the yuan to become a reserve currency? Then it would float(?), and people would find out that China is a worth a lot more than the the yuan currently indicates. Isn’t China heavily dependent on expensive yuan (ie deflation) so that compartively inflated American dollars buy more at Wal-Mart? [not sure I got that right]

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 06:57:57

Inexpensive yuan = expensive dollar = $1buys more Chinese manufactured stuff at Wal-mart.

Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 07:10:44

Ah, thank you. :-) So if the yuan floats, those dollars will buy less at Wal-mart and corporations uproot and head for the next cheapest country, leaving Chinese employees to the same fate as American employees.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:12:20

That’s it.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 08:05:41

And those Chinese ex-employees will have mortgages and cars loans they can longer afford.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:13:06

Little remembered fact: Iraq was about to convert it oil trades to Euros just before we invaded.

Comment by nickpapageorgio
2010-08-03 01:39:28

I seriously doubt Iraq converting its oil trades to Euros had anything to do with the decision to invade. The stuck in the 90’s bush retreads wanted a seconds shot at Saddam…Plain and simple. Real shame we had to lose so many good Americans to satisfy the ego of those douche bags.

 
 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2010-08-03 01:33:57

“The US dollar will eventually lose its status as the international reserve currency to the Chinese yuan”

Who gives a sh..?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 05:07:28

Fed Finding No Good Deed Goes Unpunished With Mortgage Bond Trades Failing.

For all the good the Federal Reserve’s $1.25 trillion of mortgage-bond purchases have done, they’ve also left part of the market broken.

By acquiring about a quarter of home-loan bonds with government-backed guarantees to bolster housing prices and the U.S. economy, the Fed helped make some securities so hard to find that Wall Street has been unable to complete an unprecedented amount of trades. Failures to deliver or receive mortgage debt totaled $1.34 trillion in the week ended July 21, compared with a weekly average of $150 billion in the five years through 2009, according to Fed data.

The difficulty of executing transactions may eventually drive investors away from the $5.2 trillion mortgage-bond market, which has historically been the most liquid behind U.S. Treasuries, potentially causing yields to rise, according to Thomas Wipf, who chairs an industry group that is trying to address the problem. The unsettled trades also stand to exacerbate the damage caused by the collapse of a bank or fund.

“You’re adding systemic risk into the market,” said Wipf, chairman of the Treasury Market Practices Group and the New York-based head of institutional-securities group financing at Morgan Stanley. “Investors are taking on counterparty risk in trades they didn’t intend to take on.”

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:01:49

“You’re adding systemic risk into the market,”

How do quants even price the risk of the Fed changing the rules of the game? Seems like kind of a black swan type event fromthe investor standpoint (’no one could have seen it coming…’).

 
 
Comment by Spook
2010-08-02 05:27:13

60 years from now will Obama be remembered as the “Herbert Hoover” of our generation?

Or

the FDR?

Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 05:39:49

Both. Hoover to 2012, FDR until 2016.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 05:57:28

Ya mean he will confiscate gold, and then know ahead of time when a foreign country attacks and kills hundreds of Americans, just like FDR did about Pearl Harbor? He will use the war and American bloodshed to get us out of the depression?

Come to think of it, the millions of unemployed men who would lose their lives would not be unemployed anymore - they would be dead. There, that solves the unemployment problem!

People love Obama so much they will re-elect him?

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 06:12:39

“People love Obama so much they will re-elect him”?

If the other party can come up with someone of substance, rather than rolling out retreads over and over, Barry is toast. If not he”ll get re-elected, voters have shown they are not very bright for decades.

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 06:21:01

Agreed. Palin, Huckabee, and Gringrich all frighten me more than another term of Obama. The word “religious” in front of the word “right” have a lot to do with making me fearful.

 
Comment by Red Beach Red Beard
2010-08-02 08:30:44

“all frighten me more than another term of Obama”

Basil for Pres!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zCY99-Y540&

 
Comment by cobaltblue
2010-08-02 10:40:45

Voo doo you think you are, leaving out “magic”?

 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-02 09:10:01

the other party can come up with someone of substance ??

Exactly….Bush/Cheney fractured the republican party beyond repair…

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Comment by Carlos4
2010-08-02 16:49:44

Gonna be some sorry posters here in a few months and a lot more in 2012; do you Bush haters really believe that the obloviator will do two terms after what he’s pulled so far, let alone what he and the lame ducks plan for post November?

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 17:00:56

do you Bush haters really believe that the obloviator will do two terms after what he’s pulled so far,

Does it matter? It’s a shell game and a joke to keep you busy.
Yea man, the GOP in 2012 are gonna give us CHANGE.. lol

Does this article below mean the GOP were “socialists” before even Obama??

Health insurance mandate began as a Republican idea AP
In ’90s, GOP saw an alternative to Clinton plan

http://www.boston.com/news/health/articles/2010/03/28/health_insurance_mandate_began_as_a_republican_idea/

WASHINGTON — Republicans were for President Obama’s requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.

The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that has been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton’s failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.

In the early 1970s, President Nixon favored a mandate that employers provide insurance. In the 1990s, the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank, embraced an individual requirement. Not anymore.

“The idea of an individual mandate as an alternative to single-payer was a Republican idea,’’ said health economist Mark Pauly of the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School. In 1991, he published a paper that explained how a mandate could be combined with tax credits — two ideas that are now part of Obama’s law. Pauly’s paper was well-received — by the George H.W. Bush administration.

“It could have been the basis for a bipartisan compromise, but it wasn’t,’’ said Pauly. “Because the Democrats were in favor, the Republicans more or less had to be against it.’’

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:17:28

I think I’ve just hurt myself laughing.

Good find Rio.

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:33:20

know ahead of time when a foreign country attacks and kills hundreds of Americans, just like FDR did about Pearl Harbor? He will use the war and American bloodshed to get us out of the depression?

Your points don’t mean too much in the big picture.
WWII needed to be fought by the USA right then and there.

Our entry protected liberty and other stuff that you like to talk about.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:15:12

A recent article said that the military is currently meeting and exceeding its requirement goals as a direct result of the economy.

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Comment by Lip
2010-08-02 06:16:13

How about neither.

I think he’ll replace Jimmy Carter as the worse President ever and I sincerely doubt he’ll get that 2nd term.

Maybe just once he should do what Clinton always did, read the polls and then govern to where the public wants him to go.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 06:27:11

I wish he would do exactly that - read the polls and do what Clinton did. As wmbz said above, there does not seem to be any viable alternative bubbling up in the Republican Party. They won’t promote Peter Schiff, for example, because he’s pro choice. I would venture a guess and say Peter Schiff is either agnostic or atheist as well.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 06:33:41

Good luck getting the evangs to vote for him.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-02 09:12:49

Good luck getting the evangs to vote for him ?

And good luck getting the remaining voters to vote for anyone they nominate…

 
Comment by lavi d
2010-08-02 11:49:45

Agreed. Palin, Huckabee, and Gringrich all frighten me more than another term of Obama. The word “religious” in front of the word “right” have a lot to do with making me fearful.

I can’t agree more.

 
Comment by Carlos4
2010-08-02 16:55:50

Then you deserve every tax increasing, medical rationing, illegal immigrant swarming, dollar collapsing day he’s in office.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 17:06:20

Then you deserve every tax increasing, medical rationing, illegal immigrant swarming, dollar collapsing day he’s in office.

I don’t see a real point here.

Taxes are at an all time low for corporations and the rich in the USA.

Medical rationing is rampant now and has been for years

Illegal immigration has been increasing since Reagan

The dollar’s been going down for years and years

Were you just born in 2008?

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 19:56:09

Carlos, I reject taxes and spending too. I did not say I vote. Anyhow would never vote for any Democrat and never have done so in my life. I prefer the third choice when I refuse to vote for a stinking Bible thumper: Don’t vote.

The lesser of two evils is evil.

I refuse to vote for evil Such an act is far worse than not voting at all. It is a sanctioning of the illness of American Government 2010. I won’t sanction it.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2010-08-03 01:47:59

I would settle for someone that would just stop signing laws for a few years and perhaps roll other laws back. We need to restore confidence in our country and business has to know what kind of regulations they face in order to make projections for hiring and growth. Can we please just take a two to five year moratorium on new regulation, new taxes and new programs while also freezing spending or rolling it back to pre-bubble levels? Pretty please with sugar on top.

 
 
Comment by mikey
2010-08-02 07:51:49

“I think he’ll replace Jimmy Carter as the worse President ever and I sincerely doubt he’ll get that 2nd term.”

I think the disasterous reigns and aftermaths of Richard M Nixon, Ronald Raygun, George Herbert Walker Bush and the Shrub have an EZ solid lock hold on the 1st four worst Presidents.

Carter and Obama aren’t even IN the running for worst Presidents with that gang of criminals, thugs, hoodlums and their lackies.

…and there is NO doubt in my mind about THAT !!

:)

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Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:12:58

Obama is a hateful ideologue. He is “changing” Amerika in ways that he finds more suitable. He had been going down in the polls since election day. Has that caused him to change course?
NO. He hates this Country and wants to re-make it as quickly as possible into the Marxist state of his dreams. Forget the polls.
We’re pushing hard to get the CHANGE that we need.

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Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:38:59

Precedent Presidential Political spoils: “I’m the Decider!” :-)

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:33:41

Where is my free heathcare, free college and fat pensions? Where is the 90% tax bracket on high incomes?

Heck, they’re talking about raising the age brackets for Social Security.

He’s not a very good marxist if you ask me.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:47:21

NO. He hates this Country and wants to re-make it as quickly as possible into the Marxist state of his dreams. Forget the polls.

Alright… Who’s the wiseguy who cued the theme from the “Twilight Zone”?

 
Comment by mikey
2010-08-02 19:26:10

Phew…Just got back, You didn’t expect me to lobe a political hand grenade into the room and actually stick around, did ya ?

Had to check out a pretty nice place in one of those small country subdivision hells in person. A 106 inch overhead projection screen, 7 speakers, two bar flatscreens and an array of lights, switches, whistles and bells that would take a 3 month long course at Top Gun School to learn to operate that place. No pool down there but plenty of extra room for a sauna if you kick out the hardcore jocks and ditch the weight room.

I just had to see that full finishered basement bar/rec room/pool hall/theater/bar myself. You power up that joint and all of the lights in SE Wisconsin…must dim.
Sheesh, if you ever wondered what these cheeseheads do during these long, cold, lonely winter nights…they build man places and some are really impressive.

I don’t KNOW enough people to through a full size party in that place, You could easily fit the entire Viking/GB offensive-defensive lines plus a few chicks in there and nobody would get bumped by crowding in that man cave.(racks not included)

Zillow and the other village idiots had it around 425K…until it dove straight off the freakin’ cliff and he’s still holding out for a premium…with about 31 assorted REO’s, pre-forclosures, forecl

 
 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:41:02

I think he’ll replace Jimmy Carter as the worse President ever

ever? Ever??

??? Do you have even a weak grasp of American presidential history?

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Comment by MrsWheezer
2010-08-02 12:38:41

One of my college professors said that William Henry Harrison was the BEST US president. He was the only one in office for so short a time he couldn’t screw anything up.

Being taught American history by an extremely cynical old college prof is quite the eye-opener.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:20:56

It’s the best way to learn about history!

 
 
Comment by rms
2010-08-02 22:43:26

“…and I sincerely doubt he’ll get that 2nd term.”

The large pension fund’s equity will quietly slip away next year as the commercial RE loan resets come due. Since po’folks will set the city on fire if their “cheese” don’t show, the public workforce will take the cuts in their benefits and pay–first!

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Comment by Blue Skye
2010-08-02 06:13:41

I’ve been saying here that he was Hoover since his first day in office. He’s presiding over an unavoidable credit collapse. He will take the blame. Second term? What miracle could make that happen?

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 06:26:44

Ummmm Biden dies????

What miracle could make that happen?

 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 07:18:02

“He’s presiding over an unavoidable credit collapse.”

“YOU LIE!”

(says the man in the tie-dye shirt holding up a sign the reads:)

14+% :-)

 
Comment by Prime_Is_Contained
2010-08-02 08:34:20

“I’ve been saying here that he was Hoover since his first day in office.”

+1, Blue Skye. I said the same thing while on election night while watching the returns roll in.

I will be shocked if the sheeple are able to see past the multi-decade historical context and not blame the sitting president for four years of economic pain.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 19:13:45

I will be shocked if the sheeple are able to see past the multi-decade historical context and not blame the sitting president for four years of economic pain.

Really? How about George Bush’s terms? Didn’t we always get the message from the media that Clinton handed Bush a booming economy and Bush’s cronies screwed it all up. Isn’t that what the left has been saying for years now??
Clinton’s team led the Dot.com bubble.

Let’s see………biggest stock market crash in history…..March 2000. Led down for another year or so and trying to recover, then Sept. 2001, towers gone, markets crash again. Nine months in office in some of the worst financial chaos in decades.
That’s what Bush got. A really great economic environment. Conservatives resented Bush’s pandering to the left and agreeing to huge spending bills. Remember that the last 2 years, it was a Democratic Congress.
So really, it’s been Pelosi and Reid pulling the strings since 2007.

Do you think Obama’s team, which is really Bush’s team, is doing a better job? Or do you think the slush funds went to the wrong places?
I was never a fan of GWB, but the stories are just a little over-played about how Bush wrecked the economy in 8 years.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:22:40

Plus the previous 8, right?

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Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-02 06:18:46

Ouch. Jun-2007 $600,000 to $147,510 Aug. 2010

realtor.com today
16292 Robin Wy Jupiter, FL 33478
$147,510
$720/month|Change My Scenario|Get Mortgage Rates 3 Bed, 2 Bath | 2,809 Sq Ft on 2.5 Acres | MLS #R3126447 | Refreshed 14 minutes ago

—————————————————————————————-
Palm Beach County Property Appraiser
Location Address: 16292 ROBIN WAY
Municipality: UNINCORPORATED
Parcel Control Number: 00-42-41-07-00-000-5470

Jul-2010 23939/0965 $200,000 CERT OF TITLE WASHINGTON MUTUAL BANK
Jun-2007 21908/1108 $600,000 WARRANTY DEED MORELLO JOSEPH
Feb-2007 21478/0279 $10 QUIT CLAIM URBANEK LAWRENCE W

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-02 07:24:13

Our friends up the road in the Daytona Beach area have taken it in the shorts, big time. Bought in 2006 (the absolute peak). Based on current listings in their ‘hood, they might get 40% of what they paid if they had to sell now.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:17:45

Did they pay cash, or are they holding mortgage paper at 95% LTV??
Did they get a five-year, pay-option mortgage so that they are only paying half the real mortgage payment?? If so, then they have been renting for 4 years and it may be time to find another place.

Just one problem here. Sounds like they are “investors”. This is Florida. If they have other assets and just skip out on the loan, they could be looking at a deficiency judgment.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-02 08:57:15

No, they bought the house to retire and are living there. They own no other real estate. I don’t know if they have a mortgage.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 09:54:12

Bill;

I guess their kids & grand-kids will spit on their grave for throwing away all their inheritance moolah.

 
 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 10:07:50

I live in that area and can attest that what is selling is selling at prices that are at least 50% off what it sold for three or four years ago. Nothing is really selling even at these low prices.

 
 
 
Comment by Red Beach Red Beard
2010-08-02 06:26:05

I have been working with a realtor for about 6 months. He won’t return my calls or emails anymore. LOL!

Next…

Comment by Kim
2010-08-02 11:15:55

Might that be because you are submitting comp-killing offers more in tune with traditional housing metrics than wishing price offers with attached love letters and promises to feed the squirrels?

 
Comment by rusty
2010-08-02 11:35:55

He’s not hungry enough yet…

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:25:03

The only time I ever work with a realtor is if I need to see the inside of the property and/or there is no other way to purchase the property.

And sure as hell not for 6 months.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 06:28:20

Cuba eyes more self-employment as massive layoffs loom

After the crash of the former Soviet bloc, Cuba’s cash-strapped government …

President Raul Castro expanded self-employment fields on Sunday, ahead of looming government plans to slash as many as one million jobs — 20 percent of communist Cuba’s work force — from state payrolls.

The economy, 95 percent of which is currently in state hands, does not have the ability to absorb such vast numbers of jobless. Castro’s move aims to try to reduce the socioeconomic fallout, but it will be an uphill battle.

The Council of Ministers “agreed to expand the range of self-employment jobs, and their use as another alternative for workers who lose their jobs,” Castro said as he gave a closing address at one of two annual sessions of the National Assembly.

After the crash of the former Soviet bloc, Cuba’s cash-strapped government in the 1990s approved a wide range of self-employment. Positions such as beauticians, dog groomers, small restaurant owners and even lighter refillers were legalized as long as workers got licenses and paid taxes.

But social resentment emerged as an issue when some workers, particularly in small private restaurants, achieved dramatic levels of success.

The government began increasing taxation and regulation, and decreasing license-granting, until the self-employed sector was largely rendered paralyzed, like the rest of the economy.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 06:58:11

Prostitutes are self-employed, mostly.

Just sayin’.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:04:41

Do they have to pay self-employment tax?

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 07:22:25

Well that all depends…just thought I’d throw Raul a low hanging fruit.

The American experiments with leaglized prostitution in the Nevada desert and on Capitol Hill seem to be going swimmingly.

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Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-02 10:42:27

Nah, just their pimp

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Comment by lavi d
2010-08-02 11:58:41

Prostitutes are self-employed, mostly.

So are drug dealers…

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 07:12:41

“Positions such as beauticians, dog groomers, small restaurant owners and even lighter refillers were legalized as long as workers got licenses and paid taxes.”

The Castro’s Family…or…GoldenmanSucks

It’s all about CONTROL, …whilst lying about the beach on some exotic Island, smokin’ seegars & laughing. :-)

Comment by measton
2010-08-02 09:04:36

The Castro’s Family…or…GoldenmanSucks

It’s all about CONTROL, …whilst lying about the beach on some exotic Island, smokin’ seegars & laughing

BINGO

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 07:15:45

How can Castro be expected to create jobs when he can’t even wallk on water?

 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:23:41

legalized as long as workers got licenses and paid taxes………
So, it’s universal. Communist, capitalist, socialist, marxist……….the role of government is to regulate with licenses and collect taxes.
I thought being in the worker’s paradise meant the government gave to the people by fleecing the rich. tell me its true.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 10:59:45

I thought being in the worker’s paradise meant the government gave to the people by fleecing the rich.

OK, if that’s what you think then tell me how Obama’s Health care thing does that? Or his finance reform bill, or the Cap and trade thing. Obama is a socialist?

How do the above Obama bills create a worker’s paradise, fleece the rich to give to the people?

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-02 15:24:12

Obama’s new health care czar actually said, with obvious relish, that the new bill will result in significant wealth transfer.

If you’re poor then you’re not going to pay a nickel for health care. So who will pay?

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 16:12:46

Obama’s new health care czar actually said, with obvious relish, that the new bill will result in significant wealth transfer.

Man, we’re doomed….. I’m going to really practice my Portuguese harder. I promise. I promisssss……………

Ok, I’ll say it. Ready? And this is not directed at you personally but on this greater issue I say:

We need real wealth transfer now!
We need to spread the wealth back to where it WAS. Get it?

We’ve seen the greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the USA the past 30 years from the MIDDLE-CLASS AND POOR TO THE RICH. And now with the bail-outs we went into hyper-drive of wealth transfer from the middle to the top. Did you guys not get the memo? google it. It’s there. Yea really.

The richest of the rich have kicked all our asses lately, stolen our jobs, paid us crap, de-valued our money and denied us health-care and they laugh that people like you all who defend their fiefdoms. What a joke—A big fat, stupid, sick joke I say.

Wealth transfer? Socialism?? Did you guys go to school? Have you no pride and compassion for your fellow American citizens? Has failed economic dogmatic drivel trumped patriotism or the Christian values of caring for our brothers? Yes? You’d turn your back on your values and country for the self-serving propaganda spewing from the Chicago School of Economics?

Yea dudes. Giving a working-poor American citizen a yearly checkup and some health-care for a change on the backs of the rich just breaks my heart. Cry me a polluted Chinese river. The brainwashing will continue until they’ve stolen it all.

Now listen up. This America we’re living in is not something you all should be proud of unless you’re proud that most people are being shoved under the bus so the Wall Street and corporate billionaires can increase their net-worth by 100’s of millions while they outsource your lives and clamp down on your freedoms to keep you all in line like good little girls.

Go to a 3rd world country and see what you will soon become.

We are not living in an economic age and under an economic or political system our forefathers would be proud of at all and I ain’t talking about the BS “Socialism” boogieman. I’m talking about toxic globalization, corporatism, flat out fascism and gross ignorance.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 16:47:21

If you’re poor then you’re not going to pay a nickel for health care. So who will pay?

But in this sense then isn’t Obama’s plan taking a step away from “socialism”?

Does it not require MORE people to purchase health insurance therefore require less public and private money to provide health-care?

I mean if more people on the margins buy health insurance, then won’t more people have it than have it now?

 
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2010-08-02 18:20:04
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:31:20

Rio, you know as well I do that nothing will change until it’s too late.

That’s why there has been the rise of the “gangsta” culture among the young. They KNOW they’re being screwed by hypocrits.

It’s the same situation that gave rise to the “yobs” in GB.

 
Comment by nickpapageorgio
2010-08-03 01:55:04

“Go to a 3rd world country and see what you will soon become.”

Yes we will…Faster than you think now that the progressives have complete control. It’s a shame, we had such a nice country.

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-03 10:54:53

Yes we will…Faster than you think now that the progressives have complete control.

The greater point is beyond you.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-02 06:43:20

Realtors are incompetent.

 
Comment by TCM_guy
2010-08-02 06:46:20

Here is a new twist: A judge is defrauded out of his RE, and a dozen other judges (unwittingly?) facilitate this fraud.

http://tinyurl.com/3a8h57o

“Judge John L. Phillips said to me regularly that if all of these illegal activities can be successfully committed against a judge, they can be committed against anyone,” says Reverend Boykin.

“There were 12 judges involved in the Judge John L. Phillips Guardianship case, either involved in overseeing the case as presiding judges, issuing decision orders, judicial hearing judges, administrator judges, judges sealing records. We believe none of these judges are legally able to state they were not aware of the illegal activities going on in the Judge John L. Phillips Guardianship case…

In his letter to Assistant District Attorney Robert Renzulli in the Asset Forfeiture Bureau of D.A. Charles Hynes’ office, Boykin outlines how the Phillips estate has been systematically looted by mortgage fraud including “illegal conveyances, illegal sales and forgery of deeds.” And he asks if anyone is going to pay for these crimes?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 07:46:50

Good find TCM_guy!

HBB Merit Award / “TrueTruthSlayer™” of the day: :-)

“…and the only thing sure other than death and taxes will be mortgage and financial fraud as legal vultures pick over the estates of primarily the weak and sick, but really, anyone at all.”

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 07:01:58

Filed under: “Welcome home soldiers!…but ya best keep your FEDERAL “Gubmint” paid job, on account of lil Opie hasn’t quite RESTORED Cheney-Shrub’s Legacy Effect #11: “After 8 years, we’ve set the US economic stage for JOBS!, JOBS!, JOBS!, in the private sector…see ya!”

US President Barack Obama is to confirm the withdrawal of all combat troops from Iraq by the end of August.

Obama to confirm plan for US troop withdrawal from Iraq:
Barack Obama salutes while stepping off of Marine One helicopter on the White House’s South Lawn in Washington

2 August 2010 BBC News

“Shortly after taking office, I announced our new strategy for Iraq and for a transition to full Iraqi responsibility, and I made it clear that by 31 August, 2010, America’s combat mission in Iraq would end.

“And that is exactly what we are doing, as promised, on schedule.”

“Our commitment in Iraq is changing, from a military effort led by our troops to a civilian effort led by our diplomats.

Some 50,000 of 65,000 US troops currently in Iraq are set to remain until the end of 2011 to advise Iraqi forces and protect US interests.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 07:16:54

Ah, the West and its “schedules”. This provokes quizzical looks in the East, I’m sure.

Comment by oxide
2010-08-02 08:03:52

That reminds me of a funny exchange on the NewsHour. The anchor was interviewing a couple experts on Iraq. One expert said that the American and Iraqi government were talking, and that there would be a timeline for pulling out “at the conclusion of negotiations.” The other expert chuckled and said “In the Middle East, there is no such thing as a ‘conclusion of negotiations.’” The other expert laughed and concurred.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 08:57:00

This is exactly right. Events have been set into motion that have a far longer shelf life than the attention span of our collective culture allows. Heck, we’re still paying the price for the decisions made at Versailles!

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Comment by Shelby
2010-08-02 08:14:50

My boy got home Sat night from Iraq :)

Thank you Jesus, Budda, Mohammad, all the guys upstairs!!!

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:47:39

That’s great Shelby, happy for your family / Thanks & Welcome Home! to your son. :-)

 
Comment by butters
2010-08-02 09:07:21

Good news.

You forgot to thank Vishnu, though.

IIRC, he’s the designated god of protection.

Comment by awaiting wipeout
2010-08-02 10:01:44

Shelby
Good news, indeed. Thank him for serving this once great country. Our military is one brave group of dedicated folks. The group in DC, not so much.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:20:06

Thank him for serving this once great country. Our military is one brave group of dedicated folks.

Seconded.

 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-02 11:14:54

:) :) :)

 
Comment by hip in zilker
2010-08-02 22:26:00

My thanks for you too Shelby. Happy for you and all - and wishing the best future for your boy.

 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-02 08:44:01

Some 50,000 of 65,000 US troops currently in Iraq are set to remain until the end of 2011 to advise Iraqi forces

Reminds me of all those “advisers” JFK put into Vietnam. They weren’t “engaged in combat” either.

Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-02 10:49:45

Yeah, bit of a farce there. 15,000 coming home! Oh well, better than nothing, I guess.

 
 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:08:41

Coming soon to a vacant McMansion in your ‘hood: Section 8 tenants.

* PAGE ONE
* AUGUST 2, 2010

Housing Bust Opens New Doors for Subsidized Tenants
Landlords Woo Folks on Government Aid to Fill Empty Homes

By DAWN WOTAPKA

[John Gurzinski for The Wall Street Journal

Shawnetta Newburn and her family at home. Landlords are wooing tenants who receive government subsidies.]

HENDERSON, Nev.—When Shawnetta Newburn left her drug-infested St. Louis neighborhood in search of a better life for her family in Las Vegas, she didn’t expect to live in a house with frills worthy of a McMansion.

But Paradise awaited.

That’s the name of the gated community where Ms. Newburn, a single mother who makes $10.50 an hour as a pawn-shop cashier, rents a three-bedroom townhouse with soaring ceilings, a gas-fueled fireplace and an oversize walk-in closet in the largest bedroom. The master bath even includes an enclosed toilet room, a feature popular in mini-mansions.

“The only time I ever saw that was on TV or something,” she says during a tour of the approximately 2,000-square-foot home. “I never thought I’d have anything like this.” The development has a kidney-shaped swimming pool.

Her previous apartment in St. Louis resembled public housing, she says, and her three sons were crammed into one bedroom. After her refrigerator caught fire, her landlord replaced it with an outdated brown model. She now has gleaming-white appliances.

Ms. Newburn can thank the housing bust. She participates in a government program for low-income families that subsidizes about half of her $1,400 monthly rent. The program, known as Section 8, has for decades put families in functional but basic homes and apartments, sometimes in less-than-desirable communities.

But overbuilding during the housing boom has left so many homes available that landlords, desperate for renters, are wooing Section 8 recipients, whose government subsidies, delivered electronically, guarantee the landlord gets paid. As a result, Section 8 recipients suddenly have a housing smorgasbord.

Plenty of average housing stock remains in many places, but in certain markets, there are also more upscale selections. On the website GoSection8.com, landlords nationwide tout boom-era showpieces—replete with “great rooms,” backyard swimming pools and built-in stainless-steel barbecue grills—that once sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Las Vegas has been one of the nation’s hardest-hit real-estate markets.

Some renters are getting pickier. “More and more, I’m seeing tenants turn down places,” says Arman Davtyan, owner of seven Las Vegas properties rented to Section 8 tenants. Instead, they’re going for “another property that’s either bigger or in a better area or has more bedrooms,” he says. “Before, they tended to take whatever they could get.”

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 07:32:28

“…that landlords, desperate for renters, are wooing Section 8 recipients”

Here is Hwy’s guesstimation: ;-)

NONE of the above such landlords are “TrueAnger™” PeeParty tea toadler members

ALL of the above mentioned landlords absolutely despise “Gubmint” spending

SOME of the landlords have family members somewhere in America relying on Section 8 funding

Only ONE landlord will set an INFLATED rental price

That ONE landlord will be flying the largest American flag on Memorial Day

Comment by iftheshoefits
2010-08-02 08:41:50

I bet the Amish have something to do with this too, don’t you think?

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 07:50:45

I once lived in a St. Louis apartment building with a mixture of Section 8 and non-Section 8 tenants. I will never forget the day my bathroom ceiling caved in; the woman who lived upstairs from me had left the bath water running unattended, causing local flooding conditions just above my bathroom. The beautiful hardwood floor in my unit had to be gutted as a consequence.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:54:44

“…with a mixture of Section 8 and non-Section 8 tenants”

It’s hard to tell from your story Mr. Bear which one she was, but if she tried to claim the damage was ALL YOUR FAULT!… or,… “society’s” fault in general…I’d lean towards the Section 8 profile. ;-)

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 09:48:41

I don’t know who paid for the damage, but it was not I. But I still feel the lasting emotional pain of returning from a vacation to the sight of a bathroom ceiling on the verge of caving in (which it did a short time later…).

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Comment by In Montana
2010-08-02 14:10:45

well I’m sure she had a lot of things on her mind…hard to keep it all together and remember when you’re on the dole and got to be here and be there to stay signed up and stuff….

 
 
 
 
Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:35:46

What does this tell you will happen to that entire neighborhood of “investment” properties? Can you see a future ghetto? I can.
I also find it shameful that the “government” is paying half of someone’s rent. What it means is that she can really afford a $700 per month apartment, but gets to live in a $1400 per month house, at my expense. It’s outrageous that this has gone on for so long now.

Comment by Insurance Guy
2010-08-02 09:03:48

Several years ago, we had one person on the street rent his house using Section 8. Soon we have many young people hanging out at the house and on the street. They carried guns. Then they scared some elderly ladies across the street from me. The ladies came over to my house and asked me to call the police as they saw the guns and did not want that but were afraid the young people with the guns might cause some trouble. I called the police and they came out and had a nice conversation. When I mentioned the fear in the neigborhood, it was as if a light bulb was turned on. The police just sat a cruiser in front of that house for two weeks. The young folks were evicted as the Section 8 was set up for there grandmonther who never moved in. In three weeks, everything was back to normal. I nice mixed race community in Columbia, SC. (The house was never occupied again and is not for sale. Not sure why?)

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 09:59:45

I lived on Covenant road off two notch/beltline and worked at wolo tv,

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Comment by In Montana
2010-08-02 14:29:45

Question: Is never see Section 8 housing advertised here. Do they just use word of mouth through the welfare office?

A big apt complex went up next to where I work, and I never saw the units advertised, just a banner out front for awhile I think. Place filled up in no time with lots of young mothers with kids and weird people who stay inside most the time. The new apt complex down the street advertises like crazy all the time.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:23:08

I live just a few steps away from an apartment complex that rents to Section 8 tenants.

And you know me, I’ve done more than a little bit of complaining about the neighbors on this blog. However, in the six years that I’ve been here at the Arizona Slim Ranch, the residents of this complex have yet to disturb a moment of my peace.

This is due to the ownership and the on-site management. They don’t put up with any guff from their tenants. None whatsoever.

We, the neighbors, are huge fans of this complex. To the point that our neighborhood meetings are held there.

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 09:49:47

How do you stop these people (the ones who authorize this kind of policy, that is)?

 
 
Comment by Lane from s.c.
2010-08-02 09:12:27

I would hate to se this house in a year or two. It will look like old gubmint housing. sad.

Lane

 
Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-02 11:03:57

The places will likely be trashed. Many people don’t appreciate what they don’t pay for.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-02 12:01:50

YES YES and YES……my father was a bricklayer, and wanted to do a good deed and worked on some NEW public housing in Norwalk CT for a lot less pay then the union wage……within 2 years it was trashed,

One place it looked like someone took a sledge hammer to the large front porch brickwork…

 
 
 
Comment by AZtoORtoCOtoOR
2010-08-02 07:38:44

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/4676-E-Meadowview-Ct-Gilbert-AZ-85298/67400110_zpid/

Continuing to look in the East Valley of Phoenix metro area. Here is a pretty good haircut on this house. 1.3 million at the top and now on sale for 529,000. Still overpriced for me. Maybe $350,000 and I would be interested.

Comment by cactus
2010-08-02 09:24:53

yea that looks like Phoenix and surrounds look at all that dirt were do you think it goes when the wind blows ??

Comment by AZtoORtoCOtoOR
2010-08-02 10:04:53

In that my chandler house was complete dirt in the backyard,I know exactly where the dirt goes - Right in the drain holes of the windows of the house and also onto the back porch. If you have a pool it all goes to the bottomof the pool. Got to haul in a lot of rock to cover up the 1 acre.

My issue with the house is that the garage is still too small - they are still not deep enough for my crew cab truck with a short box and not tall enough for my imaginary boat.

Comment by Kim
2010-08-02 11:00:45

“Cooling system: refrigerator”

A little inadequate for a house of that size and climate, no?

;)

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 07:43:55

Well my hopes for a break in rent (in my Phoenix apartment) this year were dashed. My rent increased by $32 per month. Did some research on comparable apartment complexes, talked face to face with the manager on Saturday in Phoenix. Rent price is still among the lowest for my amenities in Ahwatukee and Chandler.

Better luck next Fall! I think that the earlier link above about 8 million houses probably coming on the market will drive my rent down when my lease is renewed next year.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 07:47:46

Just got back from a quick trip to the Midwest. Permit me to offer the following observation:

If this is the summer travel season, then where the heck are the people? I went through four different airports, and only one of them (Houston Intercontinental) was even mildly busy.

As for the flights I was on, only one was completely full.

Comment by Diogenes (Tampa, Florida)
2010-08-02 08:39:55

Here in Florida they are calling them “Stay-cations”. The beaches are relatively crowded, with lots more Florida tags on the cars. Most of the restaurants are filled with locals, taking a short day trip to the coast. Even so, we are not seeing capacity crowds.

 
Comment by CincyDad
2010-08-02 09:18:41

Here in the Midwest….

Everyone drives, no one flies.

Going to Florida for a 1 week family vacation… 16 hours drive down on Saturday, 16 hours drive home the following Sunday. Every MW kid knows this.

Comment by Chris M
2010-08-02 11:37:51

In 2009, I flew my family of 4 from Chicago to Orlando and back for under $700. That would be about 2000 miles of driving, so $0.35/mile would be break even. Not worth the hassle, IMO.

Comment by JackRussell
2010-08-02 15:10:46

It is hard to get a good airfare these days - airlines are flying fewer flights with smaller aircraft, and adding fees for anything they can think of.

For me anything to do with going to the airport is a bit of an ordeal that I would rather avoid if I could.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 15:36:11

For me anything to do with going to the airport is a bit of an ordeal that I would rather avoid if I could.

My next week 24 hour ordeal:
Kansas City-Chicago
Chicago-Sao Paulo
Sao Paulo-Rio de Janeiro
Rio de Janeiro-my Brazilian brand Jacuzzi

But hey, it beats the drive…..

 
 
 
 
Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-02 10:18:47

Which airports?

Midwesterners don’t go SOUTH to vacation during the summer. They go north, to get away from the heat.

Places like Eau Claire. Bemidji. Marquette. Traverse City.

Comment by Chris M
2010-08-02 11:42:45

I’m off to Door County next week! It’s cooler by the lake.

Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-02 12:08:08

I know the area well.

My in-laws have a place near Europe Bay.

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-02 15:30:26

If you see Jim Morrison, say Hi for me.

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Comment by rms
2010-08-02 22:59:51

“If you see Jim Morrison…”

Da’ backdoor man!

 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:26:52

The airports I passed through:

Tucson-Houston-Cleveland on the way out. Cleveland-Denver-Tucson on the way back.

Oh, BTW, while I was in Ohio, I was at lunch with some locals. One of them is married to a lady whose family owns a business that rents canoes on the Cuyahoga River. They’re busier than they’ve been in many years.

Reason: The economy. People can’t afford to go far away on vacation, so a day trip down the Cuyahoga is quite the thing.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:26:50

Disney has expanded its “free dining” program to nearly year round. It it used to be that “free dining” was only available in the fall season, which was traditionally the slowest in Orlando.

Now before anyone gets too excited and rushes off to book a vacation, you have to purchase the vacation packages from Disney, which means you will pay rack rate (as through the nose) for the rooms.

Comment by Chris M
2010-08-02 11:46:50

I found the food to be the most disappointing aspect of our Disney vacation. Everything else was first rate, but the food was institutional grade.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 13:02:58

There are a few good places but most of the food at Disney is “meh”.

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Comment by Kim
2010-08-02 10:53:59

Boston was crowded when I was there two weeks ago, and the tourists were spending, at least on the low end. Both our flights were completely full too.

I don’t take that as much of a bullish indicator, though. At the time these vacations were booked, Florida and the Gulf was looking questionable at best, and with patriotism sort of in the doldrums along with the economy, its tough to muster much enthusiasm about showing your kid the White House or Capitol Building. Also, if a lot of New Englanders are staycationing, then Boston is an obvious day trip.

Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-08-02 15:33:05

I live in an area that empties out in the summer while people head elsewhere. There are a few people I know that have stuck local but some days you can hear crickets driving down what during most of the year are busy roads. I will say that most people I know are heading out to see family or friends and may have traded the cushy timeshare for sleeping bags on the finished basement floor at Aunt Nancy’s.

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 11:24:44

Except every Chili’s restaurant had a huge line out the door and at least an hour wait…

Comment by Cowtown
2010-08-02 12:01:49

Maybe not. A new Chili’s here closed within 6 months of open. The building has been vacant for over a year.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 13:04:20

Black Eyed Pea folded in Colorado.

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Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 13:20:45

I knew a couple of them were gone, but I thought the one over at 104th and I25 by Gunther Toody’s was still open? I guess I better find out before my wife drags me over there someday :-).

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 15:06:51

I recall reading that all were being shutdown. Maybe they changed their mind?

A quick check with their website shows that some are still open in Colorado.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 15:15:20

OK, I thought there were still ads on the radio for them and thought maybe I was losing my mind.

 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-02 17:49:45

HOOTERS are all still open. Must be that the food looks so good. What a business model. Ha

 
 
 
 
Comment by In Montana
2010-08-02 14:20:08

Busy as ever in Montana. Lots of out of state plates, people with their behemoth RV’s with boat on top, and towing a car, bikes in front, on their way to Glacier or Yellowstone. Maybe they just rent the RV’s now.

Naw, that would make too much sense.

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-02 19:51:54

Phoenix SkyHarbor airport terminal 4 TSA lines have been non-existant for months on Sundays when I fly back to LA before 2pm. However the terminal wings seem no less crowded than usual.

LAX terminal 1 has been as busy as several years ago. I see no drop in crowds. I can hardly ever get a seat at Gordon Biersch now, just like several years ago.

 
 
Comment by michael
2010-08-02 07:56:50

is it just me or do the housing prices in the DC metro area seemed to have stagnated…at least the ones inside or close to the beltway. i thought it would be a bloodbath…but…not so much.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:16:58

The closer you are to uncle sugar, the sweeter it gets.

Comment by rms
2010-08-02 23:02:10

+1 True. LOL!

 
 
Comment by Shelby
2010-08-02 11:48:45

Talk to some poor slob who’s been trying to sell out in Loudoun/Round hill for the last 6 Months or so… :)

 
 
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2010-08-02 08:02:45

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Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-02 08:27:21

WHT should be WHY

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-08-02 08:03:21

finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/110194/are-the-helicopters-about-to-take-off?mod=bb-budgeting
Barrons

Bullard has been critical of the FOMC’s language that it expected to maintain exceptionally low levels of short-term interest rates for “an extended period.” He hasn’t joined in dissenting, however, with Kansas City Fed President Thomas Hoenig, who contends the “extended period” language will hamstring the Fed in raising interest rates when it’s called for to counter incipient inflation pressures.

But in a stunning about-face, Bullard writes that the “extended period” of ultra-low short-term rates could result in a scenario such as Japan’s persistent deflation and recurring recession despite holding short-term rates near zero. Bullard argues that Japan’s experience suggests persistent rock-bottom policy rates can result in falling inflation and inflation expectations. Every economic setback delays the eventual normalization of interest rates, leading everyone to expect more of the same.

The alternative, argues Bullard, is for U.S. officials to react to negative shocks with quantitative easing by purchasing Treasury securities rather than zero interest rates.

****Sounds to me like the FED is realizing that pumping a bunch of money into the hands of the elite will not stimulate the economy and prevent deflation, and now favors gov spending via the printing press. The problem of course (for the FED) is that the FED doesn’t control gov spending.

While that’s what’s mainly remembered from that speech, Bernanke effectively gave a blueprint for quantitative easing and other steps to ease policy when short-term rates hit the irreducible zero. Six years later, as Fed chairman, he got to put those ideas into practice.

But it’s ironic that Bullard ignores the concept both Friedman and his St. Louis Fed are most identified—the money supply. The M2 measure of the money stock, which consists of currency, checking, savings and consumer money-market accounts, has slowed to a crawl, only about 2% year-over-year.

The broader M3, which the Fed no longer publishes but is estimated by Shadow Government Statistics, is shrinking at a stunning 6% annual rate. According to Shadow Stats’ chief, John Williams, whenever real (inflation-adjusted) year-on-year M3 turns negative, the economy has always fallen into recession (or if it’s already in a slump, the downturn intensifies) six-to-nine months later. Shadow Stats’ M3 dropped below the zero line last December, it’s not surprising that any number of indicators are faltering, including the ECRI leading indicator. (See “Do You Believe in Technicals or Fundamentals,” July 28 for more on the ECRI gauge.)

Last month, the London Telegraph reported the Royal Bank of Scotland was advising clients that a “monster” QE was likely from the Fed because the global banking system and the global economy teetered on a “cliff-edge.” “Think the unthinkable,” Andrew Roberts, RBS’s chief of credit wrote.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:03:45

Law creates paperwork fiasco for businesses
House rejects effort to repeal rule as parties disagree on covering cost

WASHINGTON — Talk about a paperwork nightmare: Tucked into the massive new health care law is a demand that nearly 40 million U.S. businesses file tax forms for every vendor that sells them more than $600 in goods.

House Democrats now want to repeal it. Republicans, too. But nothing is that simple in an election year.

The House on Friday rejected a bill that would have repealed the filing requirement. Democrats and Republicans disagreed on to make up the lost revenue.

The goal of the provision was to prevent vendors from underreporting their income to the Internal Revenue Service. The government must think those vendors are omitting a lot because the filing requirement is estimated to bring in $19 billion over the next decade.

Businesses already must file Form 1099s with the IRS when they purchase more than $600 in services from a vendor in a year. The new provision would extend the requirement to the purchase of goods, starting in 2012.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:45:44

As someone here predicted, they would try to fix that part of the new regs.

As a small businesses (well, tiny actually) I sure hope they do. I can’t afford the increased paperwork.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:06:01

“The debt is like a cancer. It is going to destroy the country from within.” ~Erskine Bowles

Comment by DennisN
2010-08-02 08:49:48

Geez and he’s a prominent Democrat.

Comment by measton
2010-08-02 09:11:01

zfacts.com/p/318.html

 
 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-02 17:56:50

He wants to increase your taxes with a VAT tax.He also wants the Bush cuts to expire. If you are working or have a business you are screwed. Another tax raising Dem.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:47:57

Yeah, not like those tax and budget cut, Repubs.

Well tax cuts anyway.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:08:44

The Buzz: Consumers aren’t spending. That’s a good thing.
cnnmoney

The economy is heading nowhere fast. That’s the bad news. But the good news is that it still seems like consumers may have actually learned a lesson or two about reckless fiscal behavior.

Yes, the latest figures from the government prove what most people with a pulse already knew. The economy is slowing down. That may lead to more worries about a so-called double-dip recession.

But that might be too gloomy of an outlook. When you look deeper into the numbers, it doesn’t seem that the economy is suddenly running out of gas and on the verge of collapse.

“There is hand wringing about softness in the economy but it may be overdone,” said Dan North, chief U.S. economist with Euler Hermes, a credit insurer in Baltimore.

Instead, the latest GDP report is further evidence that the economy is simply in a holding pattern, albeit an uncomfortable one. The recovery is going to be tepid as consumers adjust after a period of excess that led to the recession in the first place.

That’s why the fact that consumers don’t seem to be acting like a sailor on shore leave any more is very promising.

Personal consumption expenditures, the econobabble term used to describe consumer spending, rose just 1.6%. To put that in perspective, consumer spending was up nearly 3% in 2006 and 2.4% in 2007 — before the recession began.

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 08:58:48

“…The recovery is going to be tepid as consumers adjust after a period of excess that led to the recession in the first place.”

“Work ahead, …expect delays!”

Geez, one of these days that lid on the “Pent-up Demand” Pot is gonna really POP! ;-)

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-02 15:33:26

Why buy something today when it will be cheaper tomorrow?

Got cash?

 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-02 19:49:47

“Overdone”, he says? I personally know several small business owners and they are hurting. And I don’t mean a paper cut boo boo, either.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:18:54

Arizona Sheriff: ‘Our Own Government Has Become Our Enemy’

(CNSNews.com) – Pinal County (Ariz.) Sheriff Paul Babeu is hopping mad at the federal government.

Babeu told CNSNews.com that rather than help law enforcement in Arizona stop the hundreds of thousands of people who come into the United States illegally, the federal government is targeting the state and its law enforcement personnel.

“What’s very troubling is the fact that at a time when we in law enforcement and our state need help from the federal government, instead of sending help they put up billboard-size signs warning our citizens to stay out of the desert in my county because of dangerous drug and human smuggling and weapons and bandits and all these other things and then, behind that, they drag us into court with the ACLU,” Babeu said.

The sheriff was referring to the law suits filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and the U.S. Department of Justice challenging the state’s new immigration law.

“So who has partnered with the ACLU?” Babeu said in a telephone interview with CNSNews.com. “It’s the president and (Attorney General) Eric Holder himself. And that’s simply outrageous.”

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:14:41

What’s funny is that in Mexico the US Federal Gov’t is portrayed as a big meanie to all those poor illegals who just want to work an honest days work. The Mexican media never talks about anchor babies or illegals receiving welfare and other gov’t bennies.

I lived 12 years in Mexico City, and even though I was a legal immigrant not only did I not get the same bennies as citizens. I was subject to legal discrimination. Employers could legally refuse to hire me because I was not a Mexican citizen. When I was in school I had to pay hefty surcharges to the Dept. of Education (Secretaria de Educacion) because I wasn’t a citizen. The list goes on and on. If I were to marry I would have been subject to a background investigation and the gov’t could deny me the priviledge if they so chose.

Yet they have the gall to complain the illegals are mistreated in the US.

Comment by Michael Viking
2010-08-02 11:15:14

Didn’t the Democrats give Calderón a standing ovation as he lectured us on our immigration policy? Unreal.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 12:57:47

The Mexican elite is soiling its pants at the prospect of losing its escape valve where it can dump its surplus citizens.

The loss of remittances is also a worry, but the real concern is what to do if suddenly millions of Mexicans are forced to return to Mexico. Where will they live? What will they do for a living? Where will their kids go to school?

And on top of that Mexico is for all practical purposes a failed state where the federal gov’t has lost all control outside Mexico City. There are serious worries that the narcos (drug lords) are circling in for the kill and are planning on taking over the country, including the capital.

I read El Universal online everyday and I’m convinced that they are making a big deal out of Arizona to take people’s minds off the drug wars.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:29:41

The loss of remittances is also a worry, but the real concern is what to do if suddenly millions of Mexicans are forced to return to Mexico. Where will they live? What will they do for a living? Where will their kids go to school?

The returning-from-America kids will have a big problem in Mexican schools. A lot of them aren’t that fluent in Spanish, if they even speak it at all. And the Mexican schools don’t offer bilingual ed.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:24:59

Greenspan Says Drop in Home Prices Might Bring Back Recession
Aug. 2 (Bloomberg)

“We’re in a pause in a recovery, a modest recovery, but a pause in the modest recovery feels like a quasi-recession,” former Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said the slowing economic recovery in the U.S. feels like a “quasi-recession” and the economy might contract again if home prices decline.

“We’re in a pause in a recovery, a modest recovery, but a pause in the modest recovery feels like a quasi-recession,” Greenspan said in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” broadcast yesterday.

Asked if another economic contraction, a so-called “double dip,” was possible, Greenspan said, “It is possible if home prices go down. Home prices, as best we can judge, have really flattened out in the last year.”

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 08:45:44

BP Spill May Cost Gulf Coast Homes $56,000 Apiece in Value

Gulf of Mexico coastal homes may lose as much as $56,000 each in value as buyers shun areas marred by the worst oil spill in U.S. history, according to CoreLogic Inc.

Waterfront properties in Gulfport, Mississippi, face the biggest average declines, followed by those in Mobile, Alabama, and Pensacola, Florida, the real estate data company said in a report. Losses along the coast may total $648 million in 2010 and $3 billion over five years, CoreLogic estimates.

The disaster threatens to wipe out the premium Gulf Coast homebuyers paid for ocean views and water access. BP Plc’s efforts to staunch the oil may not be enough to stem a drop in property prices, said Mark Fleming, chief economist of Santa Ana, California-based CoreLogic.

“It’s not only about whether the oil arrives,” Fleming said in a telephone interview from Vienna, Virginia. “There’s evidence something as catastrophic as this scares people away.”

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 09:07:03

My girlfriend now wants to go to Destin for a long weekend in September. My sense for adventure makes me open to this as I’d love to see firsthand what it’s like down there. Plus, I’ve never been.

Anywhoo - she picked out some condo rentals for me to check out - and WHOA! - there must be some infestors in serious pain down there! First, the places are way nicer looking than the price per night they are asking. Second, their calendars are like 95~100% open until January! Even Labor Day weekend is wide open. Seems like every reservation for the rest of the year must have been cancelled.

She’s bargaining with the managers for the place I chose, and to hear her tell it - they’re bending over backwards on the price.

 
Comment by measton
2010-08-02 09:17:28

This is a joke right

It’s not only about whether the oil arrives,” Fleming said in a telephone interview from Vienna, Virginia. “There’s evidence something as catastrophic as this scares people away.”

Looks to me like a group making a set up to go after BP. It’s not about if the oil arrives??????????????????????.

Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-02 18:02:50

What’s going on with the bills that the real estate people have sent for reimbursement to BP for loss of commission income ?? How do I get on the party ?

 
 
 
Comment by Insurance Guy
2010-08-02 08:58:04

The whole thing with living on the coast is to make your friends and family jealous. To say you live along the Gulf Coast no longer causes then envy. Hence, any property down there is a moneypit.

I also think they have figured out the insurance cost for property along the coast. Just more money tossed ito the pit.

 
Comment by Rancher
2010-08-02 09:01:50

Wall Street Journal ^ | August 2, 2010 | DAWN WOTAPKA

The program, known as Section 8, has for decades put families in functional but basic homes and apartments, sometimes in less-than-desirable communities.

But overbuilding during the housing boom has left so many homes available that landlords, desperate for renters, are wooing Section 8 recipients, whose government subsidies, delivered electronically, guarantee the landlord gets paid. As a result, Section 8 recipients suddenly have a housing smorgasbord.

Plenty of average housing stock remains in many places, but in certain markets, there are also more upscale selections. On the website GoSection8.com, landlords nationwide tout boom-era showpieces—replete with “great rooms,” backyard swimming pools and built-in stainless-steel barbecue grills—that once sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Las Vegas has been one of the nation’s hardest-hit real-estate markets.

Some renters are getting pickier. “More and more, I’m seeing tenants turn down places,” says Arman Davtyan, owner of seven Las Vegas properties rented to Section 8 tenants. Instead, they’re going for “another property that’s either bigger or in a better area or has more bedrooms,” he says. “Before, they tended to take whatever they could get.”

Though some neighbors have long contended that government-subsidized tenants increase crime and depress property values, some now say that having a house occupied is better than leaving it vacant, which attracts vandalism and other problems.

In Antioch, Calif., a San Francisco bedroom community where the number of Section 8 listings has skyrocketed in recent years, residents have mixed emotions about the new tenants. “I would concede, I wouldn’t be happy with an empty house,” says Walter Ruehlig, a longtime resident of Antioch. “It’s kind of like, ‘What poison do you choose?”‘

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 09:19:44

Dow 14,000 in 2011? Battered Bulls Feel Vindicated.

Cabot wrote: “Long-time readers know the best investing environments come when markets strengthen, yet investor sentiment remains negative, and that may describe the current situation to a T. According to the American Association of Individual Investors, investor sentiment was recently at its lowest level since 1987, when its record-keeping began. Yet the market is strengthening! Our [intermediate term] Cabot Tides buy signal remains in effect, and our longer-term Cabot Trend Lines could turn positive at the end of the week.”

Cabot is now 65% invested and has added two new buys: Riverbed Technology Inc. (NASDAQ: RVBD - News) and Salesforce.com Inc. (NYSE: CRM - News)

Cabot concludes with a surprisingly strong (for such a judicious service) endorsement of the venerable “Presidential Election Cycle” theory. It writes: “From the market’s low point in the year of the midterm elections (like 2010), to its high the following year (2011), the major averages have averaged a gain of nearly 50%. It’s true!”

Based on past performance, it projects: “With a Dow low of 9,687, a rally into 2011 could carry the index well above 13,000 and even to 14,000. It might sound crazy, but history suggests it’s not just possible, but likely!”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 09:51:53

Just checked what the median list price is for homes on the SD MLS for the first time in ages. Here is what paying the full asked price on the median MLS-list-priced home will get you:

1101 AUGUSTA, Chula Vista, CA 91915** Short Sale
Neighborhood: Eastlake Greens School District: CHULA VISTA
ELEMENTARY

Beds: 4 Type: SFR Sq. Ft.: 3,141 Lot Size: N/A MLS #: 090013469
Baths: 3/1 Built: 2000 $/Sq.Ft.: $181 List Date: 02/28/09 On Market: 520 days

List Price: $570,000 Price reduced
Estimated Monthly Payment: $3,792

Description

Custom home in exclusive golf course with a beautiful view on the greens. Home is located in a private gated commumity with many upgrades.This is your chance for a great house at a great price.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 09:55:45

Or if you prefer to buy for $550,000, there are tons of choices — 43 homes listed at exactly this price point, in fact:

$550,000
Est. Monthly Payment: $3,659*
(Zip Realty Real Estate)

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:05:50

I’ll take ten! Not!

 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 10:18:12

Chula Vista…

BWAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (fpss™) :-)

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 10:28:05

What? You got something against cholos?

Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 12:23:49

Negatory amigo, I was simply referring to the pastoral scenic view you get $550,000…not to mention the beautiful man-made lakes & meandering tree lined rivers. Oh, and all those “cosmopolitan” Opera houses & world class museums… :-)

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 12:50:52

LOL! Good old Cholo Vista, What’s the upscale neighborhood called there? Bonita?

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by CarrieAnn
2010-08-02 10:05:56

Lawrence G. McMillan: Who’s buying all those S&P 500 put options?

Marketwatch

MORRISTOWN, N.J. (MarketWatch) — Traders are paying huge premiums for Standard & Poor’s 500 Index options expiring in September, October and November.

It is not unusual to see traders worry about what might happen to the market in the typically nasty September-October time frame, but this year, they’re really getting carried away.

We can see, in mathematical terms, how much they’re paying by looking at the implied volatilities of the S&P 500 options expiring in various months.

The premiums on the VIX futures are huge — some of the highest readings in history.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/whos-buying-all-those-sp-500-put-options-2010-08-02?siteid=nbsh

 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-08-02 10:13:45

PROPERTY APPRAISER RELEASES 2010 JULY 1st TAX-ROLL DATA
SHARP DECLINE IN COUNTY-WIDE TAX VALUES CONFIRMED
(MIAMI, 2nd July 2010) – In accordance with Florida law, Miami-Dade County Property
Appraiser Pedro J. Garcia yesterday released to each of the county’s taxing authorities their
respective 2010 Certification of Taxable Value.
As expected, the Tax Roll data confirmed the 13.4% county-wide decline in taxable property
values (some $29-Billion) indicated in June 1st Estimates which Mr. Garcia published last month.
At a news conference yesterday, Mr. Garcia noted that this was the third straight year that
Miami-Dade property values had declined. However, where new construction had helped to
offset the value declines in the previous two years, the 2010 Tax-Roll also saw a massive
decline in new construction.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-08-02 10:24:59

There appears to be a fair amount of panic in the ranks of city employees. There’s cop behind every corner writing tickets for any minor traffic infraction. New toll roads going up and fees are increasing.
Maybe I get lucky and the jerk city code enforcement officer that didn’t allow my HomeDepot tool shed gets laid off.

Comment by Insurance Guy
2010-08-02 12:27:10

Panic is the word in South Carolina for State Employees. At noon, someone from the Forestry Commission was giving an interview on the radio. The announce asked her why she was here and she responded, “People think we are just about forest and fighting fires.”

Clearly they are doing PR to justify there existence. By the way, South Carolina is mostly a large pine forest. The trees don’t face any danger here.

 
 
 
Comment by Hwy50ina49Dodge
2010-08-02 10:53:46

News from “The OC”: ;-)

O.C. BK debt tops $375,000
August 2nd, 2010, by Mary Ann Milbourn OC Register

“Orange County residents who filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy and others in the Southern California Central District owed a net $375,875 in debt last year, according to the new stats from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court’s Administrative Office.

The court reported that local bankruptcy filers had an average of $205,828 in assets and $384,619 in liabilities in 2009. The $375,000 net figure excludes debt that can’t be discharged, such as student loans and taxes.

Although that may seem high it was below the $450,128 net owed by Chapter 13 filers in the Northern California District and the $379,096 in the Southern District, which includes San Diego.

Maine averaged a whopping $2 million in debt and the Eastern Texas District came in at $568,835 outstanding.

Chapter 7 is the most common bankruptcy filing in which most of your debts are wiped out allowing you to start again with a clean slate. The disadvantage is the bankruptcy court can force the sale of your home or other assets to repay what you owe.

Chapter 13 filings require the debtor to repay some or all of their debt over three to five years.

In the Southern California, Chapter 13 filers in 2009 owed a net of $678,445. That included average assets of $645,714 and liabilities of $695,307.”

 
Comment by Eddie
2010-08-02 12:09:58

Dow up 220.

12k may happen quicker than I predicted. It feels so good to be right.

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 13:01:05

One thing I realized about you is that you’re like Cramer. People make the mistake of thinking that he’s positive or negative about something long term, when he doesn’t care about the long term. Same with you, if we hit 12k tomorrow, and then go down to 7k in a month and sit there for years, you’ll still consider your 12k prediction to be accurate.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 13:23:45

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Eddie said we would be at DJIA = 12K by year end. With the prospect of more QE by the Fed, I would not bet against him.

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 14:54:41

Yeah, there’s that. I wouldn’t be shocked to see 12k sometime between now and the end of the year, but I will be very surprised if we’re actually above 12k on January 1st, unless Congress were to extend the Bush tax cuts which I don’t expect them to do.

I just get tired of listening to people give advice on the direction of the market and then realizing they are only talking about for today or this week. I would like to see all advice from day trader types to have some sort of disclaimer so that people know they’re talking about “the game”, and nothing else.

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Comment by Eddie
2010-08-02 15:03:36

I said 12k by eoy. I was mocked and called crazy. I will be proved correct.

If it goes to 1k in 2011, so be it. Does not change the validity of my 2010 prediction.

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 16:24:14

But nobody gives a crap if it hits 12k for one day but finishes the year at 7k. Nobody but you and Cramer, anyway.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 19:11:49

“I was mocked and called crazy.”

Straw man caricaturist paranoia rears its ugly head…

 
Comment by neuromance
2010-08-02 19:24:41

I said 12k by eoy. I was mocked and called crazy. I will be proved correct.

If it goes to 1k in 2011, so be it. Does not change the validity of my 2010 prediction.

Place your bets!

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 16:04:20

Volume really tapered off once this bounce started a couple weeks ago. 12k might just be reached, but it could be a “dying breath”.

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Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 14:37:21

Unless you’ve got some skin it it, who cares about the stock market? It’s completely disconnected from the reality of Main St. where long term unemployment is the new normal. Personal bankrupcies are on the rise, banks keep failing (even with new relaxed accounting rules), states and municpalities have to fire employees and cancel projects as tax receipts plummet. So P&G is selling more shampoo in India, made in India by Indians. How does that help us?

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-02 14:58:03

Well, I’ve been about 90% out since 14k but eventually need to get back in for the sake of my retirement. I don’t want to get back in as long as we continue to play the games of the last couple of years, though…I’m OK with the ups and downs of real investing but prefer to avoid plain old gambling.

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Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 13:27:28

Guy needs a mouthful of heavy drilling mud.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:31:50

You just insulted heavy drilling mud!

 
 
Comment by Captain Credit Crunch
2010-08-02 13:32:47

Hey Eddie,

It’s not so much that people don’t think the DOW can reach 12k, or any other number really in a short period of time. It’s just that, over a period of 5 years, the people on this blog have come to realize that it’s going to take a very long time to sort out this credit mess we’ve worked ourselves into. There is still an entire ARM wave to reset over the next 3 years, plus the 2 years to get the foreclosures through the slow banking system. I think people just feel that we can’t have a *sustainable* recovery in the financial markets until all that crap has worked its way through the system.

CCC

Comment by Eddie
2010-08-03 04:48:28

And that’s fine. Nobody should invest in anything long term anyway. Put money in, take you profits move on. About the stupidest move one can make investing is buy and hold. Might as well be called buy and lose.

Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-04 07:41:55

Hence my comparison to Cramer. If everybody in the market needs to think like a daytrader, then 401(k)s shouldn’t even exist, IMO.

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 15:14:50

12k may happen quicker than I predicted. It feels so good to be right.

Considering the contents of your posts and where the dow is now, how would you know what it felt like?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 12:31:50

Union rejects operator’s offer; only limited routes run today
Sun Tran service limited by strike
Arizona Daily Star |August 2, 2010

Tens of thousands of public transit riders are stuck in the lurch today, victims of a breakdown in negotiations between the the company that operates Sun Tran and the now-striking employees’ union.

Michele Joseph, Sun Tran’s director of marketing, said Teamsters Local 104 rejected the new two-year contract proposed by the company. The contract included no wage increase and offered only to cover future increases in the employees’ insurance premiums.

Andy Marshall, executive director of Teamsters Local 104, said that out of 376 union employees, 369 voted against the new contract. The strike took effect at 12:01 a.m. today.

“We’re willing to settle this,” Marshall said. But the new contract gave no assurance against future layoffs, he said.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-02 15:34:45

Personally, I think that this city could use a major increase in its public transportation. And not just those big city buses, but jitney buses like you see in Washington, DC. I’d also like to see a bullet train between Tucson and Phoenix.

As for the SunTran bus drivers, they want to be under the umbrella of the Regional Transportation Authority, and I think this is a good idea. It’s doing a much better job on managing things than the city of Tucson has with SunTran.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 12:34:52

Mexican Drug Cartel Allegedly Puts a Price on Arizona Sheriff’s Head
$1M offered for Arpaio, $1K to join cartel. ~ Fox News

PHOENIX - He’s been at the center of the discussions and controversies surrounding illegal immigration enforcement in Arizona for quite a while.

On the day parts of Arizona’s immigration law, SB 1070, went into effect, Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is in the news for another reason: there’s a price on his head - allegedly offered by a Mexican drug cartel.

The audio message in Spanish is a bit garbled, but the text is clear.

“It’s offering a million dollars for Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s head and offering a thousand dollars for anyone who wants to join the Mexican cartel.”

A man who wants to remain anonymous says his wife received the text message Tuesday evening. It also included an international phone number and instructions to pass the message along.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-02 13:06:10

That’s nothing, Lex Luthor once offered 1 Billion for Superman’s head ;-)

Comment by hip in zilker
2010-08-02 22:59:47

:-)

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 13:05:08

Bernanke Says U.S. Consumer Spending to Accelerate

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke said rising wages will probably spur household spending in the next few quarters, even as weak job gains drag down consumer confidence.

Comment by measton
2010-08-02 13:21:59

What planet does he live on?

Does teh average worker really have bargaining power to get a higher wage with 10-20% unemployment?

What sector does he see these wage increases coming from?

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 22:47:10

Planet Wall Street.

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-02 13:31:49

He must mean rising amounts of free money from the government. That is the only game in town.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 14:27:04

Overworked, underpaid — and relieved. MSNBC
Experts say many are working harder but happy to have a job

The shoddy economy is leaving many workers feeling overworked, underpaid — and yet relieved to be employed at all.

“Fewer workers are doing more and more,” said Brett Good, a district president with staffing firm Robert Half, which has surveyed workers on this topic. “You’ve got a lot of people that are working harder, making less money — and you’re getting to a point of frustration.”

Employers have cut millions of jobs since the recession began in December 2007, driven by a drop in business and a desire to shore up costs and boost profits. Although the cost-cutting has helped propel a spate of strong earnings in recent weeks, pleasing Wall Street, it has left those who are still employed struggling to pick up the slack.

Fifty-six percent of Americans have taken on extra duties at work over the past two years because of staff cuts, according to insurer MetLife’s Study of the American Dream, which was conducted in April and released last week.

Employees also are cramming more work into each day. Labor productivity has moved steadily higher over the past two years, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

While many employees have been happy to assume extra duties in exchange for having a job at all, there are signs of growing frustration, or weariness.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 15:00:44

While many employees have been happy to assume extra duties in exchange for having a job at all, there are signs of growing frustration, or weariness.

The over-working, job loss fears, pay-cuts, outsourcing, and benefit reductions will continue until the American worker’s morale improves…

Comment by measton
2010-08-02 16:28:58

The over-working, job loss fears, pay-cuts, outsourcing, and benefit reductions will continue until the American worker’s morale improves…

No until American workers accept China garmet district wages, ie when wages get so low and working conditions so bad that workers begin jumping out of buildings.

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Comment by SDGreg
2010-08-03 03:13:44

No until American workers accept China garment district wages, ie when wages get so low and working conditions so bad that workers begin jumping out of buildings.

Maybe we should start by pushing overpaid executives out first. That might improve morale a bit.

 
 
 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 13:07:20

Study: Health insurance costs rising up to 11% next year
Puget Sound Business Journal (Seattle)

The survey by actuarial firm Milliman of Seattle indicated that premium rate increases will exceed the government’s official rate of inflation next year, with estimated January 2011 renewal increases rising 9 percent for health maintenance organizations (HMOs) and rising 11 percent for preferred provider organizations (PPOs).

“It appears that group premium rates are likely to increase at a higher rate in 2011 than what we have seen in recent years … We can point to several potential contributing factors, including the possibility that the economy and employment worries are influencing utilization. There is also the question of how reform is affecting insurance rates,” said Doug Proebsting, co-author of Milliman’s 2010 Group Health Insurance Survey report, in a statement.

Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-02 14:27:48

The survey by actuarial firm Milliman of Seattle indicated that premium rate increases will exceed the government’s official rate of inflation next year,

I think they came to the same “shocking” conclusion in 1985-86-87-88-89-90-91-92-93-94-95-96-97-98-99-2000-01-02-03-04-05-06-07-08-09-10

 
Comment by SDGreg
2010-08-03 03:10:44

We can point to several potential contributing factors, including the possibility that the economy and employment worries are influencing utilization.

But hasn’t utilization actually dropped in the last year or two?

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 14:34:20

Smashed Car Windows Lead Dubious Insurance Claims, Group Says
Aug 2, 2010

Questionable insurance claims rose 14 percent in the first half of 2010, led by a fivefold increase for car windows that owners may have smashed, the National Insurance Crime Bureau reported today.

Almost half the 7,993 cases of suspected fraud were related to vehicles, the industry group said. Some policyholders deliberately damaged car windows or staged phony accidents, it said. The number of dubious claims for hailstorm damage to roofs of houses doubled.

While the first-half increase was less than the 20 percent in possible fraud during the first six months of 2009, the persistence of dubious claims “raises concerns,” said Joe Wehrle, president of the industry group.

Criminals “try to take advantage of the insurance company’s desire to pay claims as quickly and efficiently as possible,” he said.

The increase in phony claims comes as U.S. payrolls declined in June and are expected to fall again in July. The jobless rate reached a 26-year high of 10.1 percent in October and has averaged 8.6 percent in the past two years.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-02 16:00:57

So insurance rates will go up, further adding to the carrying costs of “owning” a house. Still, I’m sure these folks think they’re clever, that they’re the only ones doing that sort of thing.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 15:08:01

I think Basil Marceaux should give up his run for Gov. of Tenn. and run for the U.S. senate, he’d brighten up the place.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 15:49:48

Dycom subsidiary to lay off 107 in Miami
South Florida Business Journal

Ivy H. Smith Co. LLC has notified the state it plans to permanently close two of its Miami facilities and lay off 107 employees.

The Greensboro, N.C.-based utility construction company said it will shutter its sites at 11900 S.W. 222nd St. in Miami and 3051 N.W. 129th St. in Opa-locka.

Ivy H. Smith is a subsidiary of Palm Beach Gardens-based Dycom Industries (NYSE: DY), which provides specialty contracting services.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 16:12:45

Backyard Scofflaws Found on Earth — Google Earth
August 02, 2010 Associated Press

Google Earth is now being used to track down criminals, at least in one small town on Long Island.

RIVERHEAD, N.Y. — A town on New York’s Long Island is using Google Earth to find backyard pools that don’t have the proper permits.

The town of Riverhead has used the satellite image service to find about 250 pools whose owners never filled out the required paperwork.

Violators were told to get the permits or face hefty fines. So far about $75,000 in fees has been collected.

Riverhead’s chief building inspector Leroy Barnes Jr. said the unpermitted pools were a safety concern. He said that without the required inspections there was no way to know whether the pools’ plumbing, electrical work and fencing met state and local regulations.

“Pool safety has always been my concern,” Barnes said.

But some privacy advocates say the use of Google Earth to find scofflaw swimming pools reeks of Big Brother.

Lillie Coney, associate director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C., said Google Earth was promoted as an aid to curious travelers but has become a tool for cash-hungry local governments.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 16:22:26

20 most stressed, 20 least stressed counties
AP Economic Stress Index shows 20 most stressed, 20 least stressed counties in June

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/20-most-stressed-20-least-apf-491618174.html?x=0&.v=2

Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-02 18:33:44

Looks like illegals cause stress. I don`t think they have much of an illegal problem in N.D. S.D. or Nebraska where the least stressed counties are.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 19:08:45

Summary stats / count by state (ranks) avg rank of entrants in top 20 most economically stressed:

CA: 12 (1,5-8,10-15,17) 9.9
NV: 3 (3,4,9) 5.3
AZ: 3 (2,16,18) 12
MI: 2 (19,20) 19.5

- CA + NV + AZ + MI collectively contain all of the top 20 most economically stressed counties.

- How did FL dodge the bullet?

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Here are the 20 most economically stressed counties with populations of at least 25,000 and their June 2010 Stress scores, according to The Associated Press Economic Stress Index:

1. Imperial County, Calif., 31.68
2. Yuma County, Ariz., 28.37
3. Lyon County, Nev., 26.81
4. Nye County, Nev., 24.78
5. Merced County, Calif., 24.3
6. Yuba County, Calif., 24.06
7. Sutter County, Calif., 23.72
8. Stanislaus County, Calif., 23.42
9. Clark County, Nev., 23.36
10. San Joaquin County, Calif., 22.74
11. Riverside County, Calif., 21.5
12. San Benito County, Calif., 21.28
13. Lake County, Calif., 21.2
14. Kern County, Calif., 21
15. San Bernardino County, Calif., 20.7
16. Pinal County, Ariz., 20.46
17. Madera County, Calif., 20.16
18. Santa Cruz County, Ariz., 20.14
19. Lapeer County, Mich., 20.1
20. Wayne County, Mich., 20.01

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-02 16:30:41

EPA Geniuses Want to Regulate Farm Dust

OKLAHOMA CITY — The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency is considering a crackdown on farm dust, so senators have signed a letter addressing their concerns on the possible regulations.

The letter dated July 23 to the EPA states, “If approved, would establish the most stringent and unparalleled regulation of dust in our nation’s history.” It further states, “We respect efforts for a clean and healthy environment, but not at the expense of common sense. These identified levels will be extremely burdensome for farmers and livestock producers to attain. Whether its livestock kicking up dust, soybeans being combined on a dry day in the fall, or driving a car down the gravel road, dust is a naturally occurring event.”

Many in the Oklahoma farming industry are opposed to the EPA’s consideration. One farmer said the possible regulations are ridiculous.

“It’s plain common sense, we don’t want to do anything detrimental,” said farmer Curtis Roberts. “If the dust is detrimental to us, it’s going to be to everybody. We’re not going to do anything to hurt ourselves or our farm.”

 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-02 17:42:39

3 percent salary increase is not enough, FAU faculty say, seeking extra 0.5 percent

By Samantha Frank Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Posted: 4:50 p.m. Monday, Aug. 2, 2010

The faculty union at Florida Atlantic University is asking for an extra 0.5 percent raise, in addition to the salary increase of as much as 3 percent that the administration has offered.

FAU President Mary Jane Saunders announced last month that all full-time employees, excluding those with special employment agreements and adjunct faculty, will get a 1 percent raise and are eligible for another 2 percent merit raise. It is the university’s first across-the-board salary increase since 2006.

The faculty union said on its website this morning that it is asking for the additional raise to make up for not having had any raises during the 2009-10 school year.

The union says some administrators and non-bargaining employees received special pay increases during that period totaling more than $500,000.

Sharmila Vishwasrao, the faculty union member in charge of bargaining, said the union understands that it’s a tight budget year and appreciates the raises, but maintains it’s only fair to receive the additional raise to bring faculty members’ salary growth in line with those who received special increases.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 19:32:39

Deutsche bags…

* The Wall Street Journal
* BUSINESS
* AUGUST 3, 2010

Dual Role in Housing Deals Puts Spotlight on Deutsche
By CARRICK MOLLENKAMP And SERENA NG

Federal probes of the collapsed mortgage-bond boom are shedding light on how Wall Street firms sometimes created securities and sold them to one set of investors, while advising others to bet against them.

One firm that was a major player in mortgage securities, Deutsche Bank AG, illustrates a pattern investigators are looking at. While creating and selling mortgage securities to some of its clients, the big German bank was not only advising other clients to bet the other way, but also sometimes doing so itself.

A Deutsche trader helped create an index that made it easy to bet against housing, and the bank itself then used the index to do just that.

After the collapse of mortgage securities led to a costly bailout of the firm that insured many such securities—American International Group Inc.—some of the federal cash that was sunk into AIG flowed to Deutsche, to cover bearish bets by its hedge-fund clients.

Deutsche’s actions are a vivid example of potential conflicts on Wall Street—the way big financial firms play both sides of the fence with investors. The issue became more extreme during the mortgage bubble and subsequent bust because of the size of the bets on Wall Street and subsequent losses on Main Street.

Regulators now are grappling with whether the business-as-usual conduct at financial firms merely looks bad in hindsight, or whether there were misrepresentations or other legal issues that need to be further investigated and guarded against in the future. “This is a gray area that we need more investigation into,” says Andrew Lo, a finance professor at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and a hedge-fund manager.

Deutsche says that helping investors bet either way—either for or against an asset—is part of doing business for a securities firm.

“Some clients sought more exposure to the housing market, while others sought less,” a spokesman for Deutsche said. “We served clients whatever their investment objective, but only after being satisfied that they had arrived at their view after thorough consideration.”

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-02 19:43:41

Read Sowell’s book to get the straight story on the causes of the GSE collapse. The truth is not negotiable, and it is not fabricated from above by politically-motivated propagandists. The stigma of truth is destined to stick to those who precipitated this disaster.

* The Wall Street Journal
* REVIEW & OUTLOOK
* AUGUST 3, 2010

Rewriting Fannie Mae History
The effort is underway to resurrect the biggest housing losers.

If you want proof that the Washington establishment has learned nothing from the 2008 financial panic, look no further than the nearby letter from former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines. Our old antagonist is signaling where the debate is heading as Congress finally begins to consider what to do about Fannie and its failed sibling, Freddie Mac.

Mr. Raines writes that “the facts about the financial collapse of Fannie and Freddie are pretty clear.” So let’s review those facts. In Mr. Raines’s telling, Fannie Mae was undone by a decision—made after he left in 2004—to purchase loans “with lower credit standards” just before the bust. But even this managerial decision wasn’t entirely the companies’ fault. Rather, according to the man who presided over one of the largest accounting scandals in history while at the helm of Fannie Mae in 2003, Fan and Fred’s big mistake was chasing Wall Street’s credit standards downward at the end of the boom.

What he doesn’t say is that Fan and Fred had a political and legal mandate to support low-income housing. At the end of 2004, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development released its “housing goals” for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for 2005-2008.

The new rule required the two government-sponsored mortgage giants to increase each year the share of their business that went to low- and moderate-income borrowers, with subgoals for “underserved areas” and “special affordable” housing. The purpose, according to HUD, was to ensure that Fannie’s and Freddie’s mortgage purchases would “promote the national priority of increasing homeownership.”

The mandate had two effects. First, it meant that in order to keep growing, Fan and Fred had to grow their affordable-housing business even faster to meet the targets. But not every borrower is a prime borrower, and that goes triple for low-income borrowers. Fannie and Freddie could only meet their politically mandated lending goals by looking for new ways to extend credit to subprime borrowers.

So when Mr. Raines says that “the cause of the financial problems for Fannie and Freddie was bad decisions, not their government sponsored status,” well, let’s just say he’s not telling the whole story.

Mr. Raines also says that neither “leverage” nor mortgage-backed securities portfolios were a problem. Hmmm. In fact, the wonder twins were put into federal conservatorship in September 2008 because their losses in the first eight months of that year had very quickly overwhelmed their capital cushion, which under law needed to be the irresponsible level of less than 2% of their assets. Only some of those losses came from their portfolios directly; most of the rest came on MBS they’d guaranteed. But if the companies had been required to hold more capital (and less leverage) in the first place, they, and taxpayers, would have had a much larger margin for error.

Former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson has also said explicitly that he rescued Fan and Fred in part to reassure foreigners that the U.S. government stood behind their debt. With some $5 trillion in liabilities at the time, they were too indebted to fail. So their leverage was a problem.

Of the many private companies that got into trouble in the fall of 2008, most have since rebuilt their balance sheets and repaid their TARP money. But not Fannie and Freddie. They’re direct cost to taxpayers so far, $145 billion, is only the beginning as Congress and the Obama Administration continue to use them to rescue homeowners from foreclosure.

Mr. Raines is signaling the coming political debate when he says “that Wall Street and the commercial banks have virtually abandoned the mortgage market.” But this is like murdering your parents and demanding clemency because you’re an orphan. No private bank can compete with the federal government’s borrowing costs, so no one can afford to compete with Fannie and Freddie. It was hard enough to compete when the two companies had to maintain a (subsidized) profit margin for their shareholders. Now that they’re being run at an intentional loss, it’s impossible.

 
Comment by Little Al
2010-08-02 21:14:58

My housing saga continues. I sold in 2005 and cleared a tidy sum, but I’ve been renting ever since. I just moved to my third rental in 5 years this week. We’ve lived in La Verne, California, San Dimas, California, and now Diamond Bar, California. We’re renting a 5 bedroom 3200 sq. feet in DB for 2850 a month. The owners moved back to China because the wife missed home. Still waiting for the crash to occur in decent So Cal neighborhoods before I buy.

 
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