August 3, 2010

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:07:03

Countrywide Financial agrees to pay $600 million to settle shareholders’ class-action lawsuits ~ August 3, 2010

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Countrywide Financial Corp. agreed to pay $600 million to settle shareholder lawsuits in the largest payout so far from the mortgage meltdown.

U.S. District Judge Mariana Pfaelzer in Los Angeles on Monday gave preliminary approval to the agreement, in which the defendants admitted no wrongdoing.

The settlement would end several class-action lawsuits that claimed Countrywide concealed mounting risks as it loosened its standards for loans during the housing boom.

The Calabasas company was once the nation’s largest mortgage lender and was acquired by Bank of America Corp. in 2008.

The settlement would clear former executives and financial firms that underwrote Countrywide stock and were named in the class-action suits.

Former CEO Angele Mozilo, former President David Sambol, former CFO Eric Sieracki and former board members were named in the litigation.

The company is being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which filed a lawsuit accusing Mozilo, Sambol and Sieracki of misleading investors.

The company and Mozilo are also under criminal investigation by the Justice Department and the attorneys general of California. Other states have also sued on behalf of borrowers.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 07:38:48

The company is being investigated by the Securities and Exchange Commission, which filed a lawsuit accusing Mozilo, Sambol and Sieracki of misleading investors.

The company and Mozilo are also under criminal investigation by the Justice Department and the attorneys general of California. Other states have also sued on behalf of borrowers.

In other words, it ain’t over yet.

 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-03 07:56:07

This development can only mean one thing:

Mozilo is eligible as next Treasury Secretary.

Comment by mikeinbend
2010-08-03 08:41:50

BAC has a foreclosure/auction subsidiary, that is literally setting up thousands of auctions in 12 states or so. In our county it was 530 auctions one week ago, and 553 now. So they are acquiring foreclosures faster than they can liquidate them.
Does a home that does not sell to a third party at auction go back to the lender, and what happens when it does? They only release opening bids close to the auction date, and they are usually the loan amount.
Our opening bid will likely be about 300k. Problem is, homes like ours are now selling for 220k. They are available from Homesteps(Freddie), our nasty neighbor finally moved out and the unit went up for sale. These folks paid 360k, and are selling it furnished, and are asking 240k! “Please just let us lose 120k plus realtor fees and lowball offer discount we will have to give. Freddie is asking 192k for a similar unit , and the pristine unit next door to us just went for 219k (they paid 380k).

So opening bid of 300k is not going to attract many greater fools, and my wife’s home will likely go back to the bank. This will happen in late november, Recontrust has sent us 20 letters, posted NOD’s and NOS’s on our door, telling us that our auction date is in November. If it goes back to the bank, do we still have to move out on the auction date

I have heard of deed in lieu, cash for keys, and banks leasing back props to FB’s. We have not talked to Recontrust. Before the sale, though, we do want to explore the ways that they may be able to “help” us. We also want them to produce the original note that would prove to us their right to foreclose. Also we were surprised seeing my wife’s property assigned an auction date before ever notifying her of a NOD or NOS!

But my point is BAC is acting quickly to try and liquidate their bad assets by setting up sales aplenty.

Well over 3700 auctions set up for this year in Oregon, and growing. Extrapolated times 50 that means around 200k auctions nationwide, give or take, for just one of the loan companies. I wonder what % share of total usa mortgages were made by countrywide/Bofa?

Millions of homes going to the auction block this year! That will clog up systems I assume?

 
Comment by octal77
2010-08-03 09:36:07


…Mozilo is eligible as next Treasury Secretary….

Of course! The obvious choice.

That tan should play really well on TV.

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:10:21

“That tan should play really well on TV.”

I’m not so sure. I started fiddling with the TV’s tint control the first time I saw him on it. :-)

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Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 08:19:13

“…$600 million to settle shareholder lawsuits in the largest payout so far from the mortgage meltdown…”

For comparison, is there any way to get a rough estimate of the cost of destruction CFC wreaked on collective U.S. economic prosperity? For instance, would the appropriate order of magnitude be billions ($1000 millions) or trillions ($1,000,000 millions)?

 
Comment by butters
2010-08-03 08:36:06

The $600 mil question is who gets the share of the 600 mil?

1. Government
2. Lawyers
3. Anyone else??

Comment by polly
2010-08-03 10:03:20

Well, since it is a shareholder lawsuit, the shareholders should get a bit.

 
 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:00:28

Those of us who were reading The Housing Bubble Blog knew it was a house of cards. Also reading the posted sales of stock by Mozillo reinforced my decision to buy PUTS on Countrywide. Too bad Schumer, D NY, leaked a memo which caused the failure and a $10 billion run on the bank. When do we fine and lynch Schumer. Oh, that’s ok cause he’s a Dem.

Comment by a-political
2010-08-04 11:21:50

I hope that everyone will remember that it is horrendously failed Rep. economic policy, greed and stupidity that got us to where we are now. Pity the Dem’s aren’t getting the same kind of support that the moron who took us all to Iraq for no good reason.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:09:49

U.S. Treasuries Rise as Report May Show Incomes, Spending Waning.
(Bloomberg) Aug 3, 2010

Treasury two-year yields extended their decline to record lows as traders bet the Federal Reserve will introduce additional measures to keep borrowing costs low as soon as its next meeting on Aug. 10 to boost the economy.

Ten-year notes rose, snapping a decline from yesterday, before a government report that analysts said will show personal income and spending cooled in June, a sign the economy is slowing. The London interbank offered rate, which banks pay for dollar loans, is tumbling partly because of speculation the Fed will start buying bonds again, Anthony Crescenzi of Pacific Investment Management Co. said in a report.

“More and more people are looking for additional easing at the meeting,” said Tomohisa Fujiki, an interest-rate strategist at BNP Paribas Securities Japan Ltd. in Tokyo. “Two-year notes still have enough yield” to attract investors.

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:12:19

Fed Likely to Pass On More Stimulus Amid Signs Economy Weak

Federal Reserve policy makers signaled they will probably pass on providing more stimulus at their Aug. 10 meeting and wait to see if signs of weaker economic growth persist.

Chairman Ben S. Bernanke told lawmakers in South Carolina yesterday that consumer spending is “likely to pick up” amid a “moderate” expansion. St. Louis Fed President James Bullard said on July 29 that he expects the “recovery will continue through the fall.” Three days earlier, Philadelphia Fed President Charles Plosser said in a Bloomberg News interview that calls for more Fed stimulus “are premature.”

Officials indicated they may ease more should the economy falter after reports of a flagging housing industry and persistently high jobless rate. Options include strengthening the pledge to keep interest rates around zero, cutting the rate the Fed pays on excess bank reserves, or buying more Treasuries or mortgage bonds. No consensus has emerged among policy makers for any of those actions, remarks by officials show, and Bernanke didn’t mention them in a speech yesterday.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-03 07:03:53

They sure are masters of making it look like they’re in total control, completely prepared for any contingency. Or maybe at this point they’re just the band playing soothing tunes to keep the passengers from storming the lifeboats? Time will tell.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 08:04:00

“Nearer my God to thee, nearer to thee…”

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:26:28

This should be good for a DOW upward blast

Small Business Optimism PLUNGES: Firms See Lower Spending And More Layoffs Ahead. ~ Business Insider

The latest Wells Fargo/Gallup small business survey is out and it’s UGLY.

In keeping with other indications that the state of small business is very bad, the survey indicates a level of pessimism about future results that’s worse even that during the worst of the crisis.

What’s more, small firms see lower spending, lower cash flows, and lower headcount in the future.

Comment by Natalie
2010-08-03 05:18:57

Actually, although it depends on which stage of the cycle you are in, investing when optimism is at its lowest has been proven to be the best stock market strategy, and investing when it is at its highest has been the worst. After the recent 9% overall run-up (20% plus if you are a selective stock picker), I’m not crazy about these prices, but by buying on the corrections I have been beating the returns on my other alternatives by at least 2%. Pessimism keeps prices artifically low, whereas optimism keeps them artifically high. The only scary thing is that ppl today buy based on momentum and trends without understanding the fundamentals of the companies they invest in, creating huge distortions.

Comment by Natalie
2010-08-03 05:26:56

I should add that 2% annualized would be higher (up about 5% for this year right now), and up around 45% for the last two years.

 
Comment by Blue Skye
2010-08-03 05:39:06

Skimming 2% as a reward for speculating in a hollowed out market doesn’t sound adequate for the risk. Like Grampa said, don’t gamble with money that you aren’t willing to loose!

Comment by Natalie
2010-08-03 05:54:06

We are in for a volatile 2 years no doubt, but I think we will eventually have growth. I should add that everyone that knows me thinks I am a pessimist since I have not owned a home for the last 5 years, and went all cash as bubble started to burst. My family actually suggested I should seek therapy because I told them prices would drop over 25% and began hoarding cash. I am not naive nor do I wear rose colored glasses.

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Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-03 06:14:35

The govt is going to keep going into debt until the problem is solved.Doesnt matter how much money it takes.

 
Comment by ACH
2010-08-03 06:14:40

Natalie,
My family pretty much said the same thing to me when I suggested that the whole economy was becoming untenable. I sold my house in FLa and went home to Louisiana in the summer of 2006. I then sold all of my stock and went bonds & cash in Jan of 2007. Yes, I missed the peak of the stockmarket. I also missed the crash. I then missed the 2009 rebound. I’m not sure I care. In any case, my money is not in an account that I can trade like that anyway.

My point is that with the flash crash, my memories of 1987, the analysts who lied in 2001, and Mr. Magoo (Easy Al Greespan) I cannot trust the stockmarket to be rational nor its risks properly visible. What I cannot see and understand I cannot trust nor invest in.

HFT? Day trades? Flash crashes? My nerves can’t deal with that.

Good luck, Natalie. I’m relieved that this is working out for someone. I really hate to admit it, but I would be just another sucker for Blankfein and Friends.

Roidy

 
Comment by Jim A.
2010-08-03 06:21:05

Oh, I agree that we will have growth* in the future. The questions are how far we’ll backtrack before then, and will demographic trends on Wall Street prices be more important than a growing economy to stock prices. As well off boomers slowly transition from buying stocks to save for retirement to selling them to fund retirement, they change from a tailwind to a headwind as far as equity pricing goes.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 08:44:36

HFT? Day trades? Flash crashes? My nerves can’t deal with that ??

Don’t worry…You are not alone…005% 2/Yr.

selling them to fund retirement, they change from a tailwind to a headwind ??

And combine that with significant reduction in the boomers consumption…

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:13:36

It’s great to be a SWAN investor. Well, saver actually.

Sleep Well At Night.

 
 
 
Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-08-03 05:41:07

Several important aspects of trading these days are:
1. high frequency trading by the big boys, skimming of the cream 1 million times a second
2. Everybody and the brother has some technical analysis tool at their disposal. The Bollinger bands are really tight this morning and the 200 day moving average…blah, blah, blah. So all this technical nonsense becomes a self fullfilling prophecy. Keep in mind that this can go either way.
3. Volume is light b/c the retail investors smells a rat
4. Fundamentals are terrible. In a deflationary environment stocks do not tend to do well, see Japan.
5. There might be some good stocks out there if you look at longer term developments (I think energy & uranium mining for example). I like to pick those up when nobody else wants them or during dips.
6. If you’re into momentum and trends I would visit your local casino. It’s more fun and at least you get free drinks.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 05:56:44

Mike:

the solution someone proposed was to make each bid valid for at least 1 second…1 lousy second and it would be unprofitable to do the skimming.

high frequency trading by the big boys, skimming of the cream 1 million times a second

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Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 07:41:57

“make each bid valid for at least 1 second”

( That doesn’t sound so damned unreasonable, oh yes it does! )

Reading the Journal this morning that Kodak has stamped out it’s last roll of Kodachrome (TM) film! I suppose expecting a bid to be honored for an entire second is just more clinging to nostalgia too?

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:17:06

“Kodachrome, they give us those nice bright colours
They give us the greens of summers
Makes you think all the world’s a sunny day, oh yeah
I got a Nikon camera, I love to take a photograph
So mama don’t take my Kodachrome away”

Seems like a long time ago. (Sigh.)

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 11:42:38

I got a Nikon camera, I love to take a photograph
So mama don’t take my Kodachrome away”

My old film Nikons and Kodachrome 64 were a marriage made in heaven.

 
 
Comment by Natalie
2010-08-03 06:07:36

Good post. I agree we will go down again before going back up but was hoping to lighten up some as we moved from the death cross to the golden cross, and black boxes triggered algorithm buying, with the expectation to pick the positions back up on the next correction. As for your number 5, I love FCX at lows. I sold mine yesterday to capture some profit and am waiting to buy more at cheaper prices.

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Comment by Cassandra
2010-08-03 07:52:02

And at a casino, you know what the odds are.

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Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 14:23:35

Casino, Wall Street and Jaws, we’ve all seen those scary movies.

Heck, me and my little yellow duck won’t even peer over the inner edge of the bath tub anymore without our loaded sidearms !!

:)

 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 07:42:13

The stock indices during the GD are educational to look at. Over a four year period from 1929 to 1932 stocks took a major beating. But this says nothing about when people put money into the stock market. Someone could have dollar cost averaged into stocks in 1909 and done so for the next 20 years. When the stocks were at their highest in 1929, they would be buying fewer shares at the same amount of contribution they put in during 1909. So their losses were not a big deal. But they would be even better off if they had several years of living expenses in government securities at the time of the crash, IMO.

This is where I’m at in my investment approach. I am happy with my risk tolerance (my 55% in equities). Personally I have a major risk of losing my high income and a low risk of not being able to exist without a job before jobs recover. A person 25 years younger than me has a very low risk of losing his income and a very high risk of losing his investments if he is mostly into stocks. So people of all ages can have a reasonable approach to this economic crisis.

Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:10:41

In the Obama/Pelosi health care disaster bill you have to notify the IRS, starting in 2012, of any gold or silver sold that totals over $600. Welcome to Obama world.

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Comment by AmazingRuss
2010-08-03 17:05:36

Enough of your Obama trauma, already!

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 19:30:47

pismoclam,

There are only so many laws we can take and so many laws we can follow. There’s a tipping point. How many laws did I violate today? Lots of them. All of them in traffic. Just like most of the people on the same roads with me at the same time.

 
Comment by exeter
2010-08-03 19:39:41

Why is it that only nutjobs exhibit symptoms of Obama Derangement Syndrome?

 
Comment by Chris M
2010-08-04 09:38:20

59% of the population disapprove of Obama’s performance.

 
 
 
Comment by salinasron
2010-08-03 08:07:00

I sold my house in mid 2004. Took all my money in deferred accounts and got a 5% fixed. Maybe not the best move but I can sleep at nights and could care less about the market right now. In some areas I could buy a house outright but still trying to figure out where we want to end up when my wife retires.

Yesterday saw some properties on the central coast and prices are starting to fall. An encouraging sign is that the flyers attached to the for sale sign are still in the box; a few months ago people were grabbing them quickly. From Monterey north people are still being dumb and buying anything in the $400-$500K range if it has 4-5 bedrooms, even at 1800 sq.ft.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 05:56:14

The latest Wells Fargo/Gallup small business survey is out and it’s UGLY.

So the lipsick is coming off the pig.

Comment by polly
2010-08-03 08:20:46

I prefer Heinlein’s pig quote.

“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig.”

Unfortunately, I don’t think I can shoe horn that metaphor into the current situation. It just doesn’t fit as well as the lipstick one. Unless you think that bailing out AIG’s counterparties or letting banks ignore mark-to-market when calculating their reserve requirements is closer to singing lessons than to lipstick. I don’t. In particular because the banks aren’t really annoyed these days. They are happy as all get out and shoving money in the bonus pool.

Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 08:46:28

Heinlein was a free market anarchist (”The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”) - uncharacteristic for a statist to honor him with a quote from him! But I thank you on his behalf!

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Comment by polly
2010-08-03 10:21:50

Umm…Bill, you are aware that when you read the books of a really good fiction writer, you can’t assume that the beliefs espoused by people in the books (especially not in one particular book) are the beliefs of the writer.

This essay from the Ludwig von Mises Institute basically says that “Moon is a Harsh Mistress” is a libertarian book, but there is no real evidence that Heinlein was a libertarian and that, in fact, there is some evidence that his personal philosophy shifted depending on the philosophy of his wife at the time.

http://mises.org/daily/4428

The whole not getting the philosophy of the person from the heroes of the books does not apply to the works of really bad writers like Ayn Rand.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:33:07

You probably like the part where the clan patriarch gets first dibs on any new girls who join the clan through marriage.

 
 
 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 08:55:35

Mustard is off the Hot Dog…

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:39:10

D.R. Horton posts $50.5M profit for third quarter
Homebuilder D.R. Horton posts profit in fiscal 3rd quarter, but sees decline in new orders. ~ August 3, 2010

FORT WORTH, Texas (AP) — Home builder D.R. Horton Inc. says it reversed its year-ago loss in its fiscal third quarter as homebuyers raced to close on purchases before the end of June to qualify for federal tax credits.

But with the credits now expired, new sale orders dipped 3 percent.

Chairman Donald R. Horton says that, as expected, “market conditions in the homebuilding industry have become more challenging after the expiration of the tax credit at the end of April.”

Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:14:20

Sales the prior month dipped 30%.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 04:42:28

JPMorgan’s Masters Urges No `Panic’ as Commodities Unit Slips.

Blythe Masters, JPMorgan Chase & Co.’s head of commodities, sought to reassure her team on an internal conference call after “extremely difficult” dismissals, defections and a first half in which some results were as much as 20 percent below expectations.

“Don’t panic,” she said in summing up the 35-minute call, a recording of which was obtained by Bloomberg News. “No one’s going to get screwed. We’re not going to do crazy things on compensation at the end of the year.”

Masters, who was named to run the business in late 2006, said the bank began dismissals on July 21, a day before the call, to trim overlap after buying parts of RBS Sempra Commodities LLP. The bank cut less than 10 percent of the combined front office, even as the oil unit lost “key people” who needed to be replaced, she said. She was discussing results with top executives after “we made a bit of a rookie error” that left the firm “vulnerable to a squeeze,” she said.

The 41-year-old banker, who helped develop credit-default swaps while at JPMorgan in the 1990s, delivered her talk from a conference room in New York, where the bank is based, less than a month after the firm closed its $1.7 billion RBS Sempra purchase.

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-03 07:59:04

“No one’s going to get screwed. We’re not going to do crazy things on compensation at the end of the year.”

followed by: “Even the AIG guys who screwed up waaay worse than you guys still got their outrageous bonuses so yours will be enormous as usual.”

 
 
Comment by Sean
2010-08-03 04:50:47

I saw a commercial on TV last night - A family sits down to dinner then the phone rings. It keeps ringing while the mother and father look at each other. The VoiceOver said “Are you late on your mortgage and worried about foreclosure?”

The funny thing is that it looks like the same family who just five years ago were dancing around their couch while the VoiceOver said “Refinance with CountryWide and get a HELOC!”

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:32:28

“Are you late on your mortgage and worried about foreclosure?”

The fine print at the bottom of the screen: You’re probably out of luck, as almost no one gets a reworked mortgage, but we will be happy to collect fees from you and spend them on booze and cheap floozies.

Comment by CrackerJim
2010-08-03 09:35:36

Do cheap floozies actually exist?

Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-03 13:31:47

Absolutely. They just aren’t who your normal guy looking for a good time would want to associate with. Think a crackulon/methhead with no teeth.

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Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 14:51:20

Be afraid, be very afraid !

…or sign up for mikey’s Famous Unafraid and Stress Reduction Program plus FREE Ray Gun.

(just $9.99 in 12 EZ payments, HBB member discounts and Ben gets a cut….batteries not included)

;)

 
 
 
Comment by Eddie
2010-08-03 04:55:40

I’m a landlord. Congratulations to me. Tenant moves in today, first rent check and deposit already cashed.

15 year mortgage at 4.125% with 25% down. ~$250 a month cash flow positive after piti, hoa, and setting aside $125 a month for repairs/maintenance. House is 5 years old so I don’t expect too much to break. House was a short sale. Price I paid was about 55% of what it was last purchased for in 2007.

Kind of odd to be a tenant and a landlord simultaneously. But it makes sense to me. The low end of the market has bottomed. I bought a low end property. The high end of the market is nowhere near a bottom, so I’m renting a high end property.

Now on to Florida to look at those $25K condos…..

Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-03 07:53:44

Seeing as you congratulated yourself there is no need for any of us to comment.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 07:55:50

“I’m a landlord.”

Have fun :-)

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:15:48

LOL! 5 years ago my sis and her husband got into the landlord biz when they moved. Rathe rthan sell the old house (which at the time would have been easy) they chose to “get rich” in real estate.

Their tenants were always late with the rent and they trashed the place. They were finally evicted for non payment and my sis and bro-in-law spent a pretty penny refurbishing the place (ruined carpets, damaged drywall, wrecked cabinets, etc.).

They sold the place and never looked back.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 09:35:31

Sounds like the former neighbor-guy who rented his house to a guy from work. Guy and his loutish family and friends proceeded to trash the place to the point where former neighbor had to spend 4.5 months bringing it back up to snuff.

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Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 09:05:38

Just like Eddie to give us “just enough” information to make it appear that he is some kind of R/E investment pro…

Price I paid was about 55% of what it was last purchased for in 2007 ??

Big deal.Those deals are available by the millions.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 08:18:30

YO Eddie you mean i have goto HD buy a plunger for the toilet….and then use my clean towels to soak up the overflow that just happened????

 
Comment by Bronco
2010-08-03 08:27:38

what is your ROI?

 
Comment by butters
2010-08-03 08:43:36

Slum lord more like it…..

Sorry I couldn’t pass it up…..

Comment by exeter
2010-08-03 09:28:35

lmao…..Lord Fauntleroy is more like it.

http://tinyurl.com/2d5wmu2

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-08-03 09:13:20

Hey, he’s cash flow positive. Not too many recent landlords can say that.

Then again, is that cash flow positive allowing for vacancy and maintenance?

I just remember my brother, who owned a rental house for years, going over there to work his ass off for three vacation days and a weekend every few years to prep for the next tenant. Thanks to the housing bubble, we was able to sell and get a descent return, but I’m not sure how decent it was when you factored in all the work.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 09:38:13

I just remember my brother, who owned a rental house for years, going over there to work his ass off for three vacation days and a weekend every few years to prep for the next tenant. Thanks to the housing bubble, we was able to sell and get a descent return, but I’m not sure how decent it was when you factored in all the work.

Ah, yes, the “all the work” factor. A concept that seems to elude so many mom -n- pop landlords.

Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 11:38:41

Yeah…The work…The vacancies…The toilet calls because the teenage daughter put about twenty of those thingies down the toilet…But I will tell you where Eddie is “likely” to step on his little wee-wee and its going to be painfully expensive….

Its clear “to me” where Eddie stands politically and philosophically…He doesn’t care to munch for the riff-raf, unemployed and those groups in Southern Fulton County…He likely does not have a “clue” about FHEO regs…

He will likely be in a lawsuit within three years…He is just to intolerant…He will say something that he thinks is perfectly acceptable and some plaintiff Lawyer is going to chop off his little wee-wee…

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Comment by mathguy
2010-08-03 12:27:20

What’s the matter with good old fashioned hard work to earn some money?

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Comment by exeter
2010-08-03 14:12:50

And what would you know about good old fashioned hard work anyways/.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:23:59

Come back in a few months and tell us you got the next few rent checks on time. And they didn’t bounce.

I hope your tenant doesn’t lose his/her job. Landlord-tenant court judges tend to give tenants a lot of slack if they stopped paying the rent because they lost their job.

Please don’t say your rental property is in Maryland.

Setting aside $1,500 a year ($125/month) doesn’t seem like enough to cover the kind of stuff renters can do.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 11:44:43

Setting aside $1,500 a year ($125/month) doesn’t seem like enough to cover the kind of stuff renters can do.

In just the past month, I’ve put out almost a grand for repairs on the Ranch House. And it’s not like I’m swimming in client work right now.

 
Comment by Eddie
2010-08-04 04:29:43

$125 is for repairs. I got a $2000 deposit as well.

 
 
Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 15:00:41

“Now on to Florida to look at those $25K condos…..”

This time, it might NOT be a good idea to burn your ships or even your bridges behind you when you land Hernando “Eddie” Cortez.

:)

Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 15:43:35

Then again on 2nd thought…TORCH them Edwardo.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 05:34:35

ITEM: Nearly 43.4 million people — now have a credit score of 599 or below, marking them as poor risks for lenders. They will have trouble getting credit cards, auto loans or mortgages under the tighter lending standards banks now use.

Ah, but clever entrepreneurs have come to the rescue of those hapless folks with bad credit. They will provide a new Social Security number with which they can develop a brand new ID!

Hundreds of online businesses are using computers to find dormant Social Security numbers — usually those assigned to children who don’t use them — then selling those numbers under another name to help people establish phony credit and run up huge debts they will never pay off.

~ New ID Theft

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 06:06:30

Wmbz:

The big OH should be asking Congress to make a new modified Fico score system…such as you had 700+ for 20years before the crash….and without a JOB, it plunged, and with a new JOB it will go back up…because you have 20 years of responsible credit usage.

Now if after a year its still below 599 then your habits have changed and tough cookies.

I know lots of people who are in this boat…again like Wile E Coyote falling off a cliff.

Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 07:46:43

aNYCdj,

I proposed a ‘fico freeze’ of sorts for those that were legitimately affected. Only to have it fall on deaf ears. Right now everyone is so thirsting to open the floodgates of free/nearly so homes ( we don’t care ‘who’ we throw under the bus )

Being “compassionate” all the while of course?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:22:07

The big OH should be asking Congress to make a new modified Fico score system…such as you had 700+ for 20years before the crash

Ain’t gonna happen. FICO is one of the last tools that the Masters of the Universe have left to control us in a time where strategic defaults and declaring BK are quickly becoming “sound economic choices” for the little people.

This is why there is such a push to use FICO as a screening tool when hiring employees, even when it’s irrelevant to the job. What better way to keep the sheeple current on the Visa and MC bills, even if they can’t afford them?

 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-08-03 09:15:38

FICO is a private product, not a government calculation, and no one can order it to do anything.

What the government can do is subsidize the creation of an alternative measure of creditworthiness, for any financial institution that wanted to use it.

Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 09:46:12

So is the fed funds rate. But the government seems to have a lot of push on that string.

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Comment by polly
2010-08-03 10:00:54

Could, but they won’t. The most you are likely to get is certain government subsidized entities looking deeper into the score to discount certain factors. But that won’t happen either.

All this single number as a measure of your ability to do something, is based on a push for efficiency which may also be read as a way to avoid having to hire educated employees. If all an employee has to do is look up a number and say yes or no based on that, then you can hire a person with no education or let a computer do the job automatically. If an actual thought process has to go into it, then you have to hire a person who has a few brains and knows how to use them. The former is cheap. The latter is expensive. Or it used to be, but a lot of those folks are out of work now, so it is cheaper than it used to be. Not as cheap as letting the computer do it.

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Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-03 13:37:43

People (educated or not) are also very susceptible to sob stories and very poor at telling which are true and which are false based on a short encounter. The computer only looks at the past facts, and this is better for business.

 
Comment by polly
2010-08-03 15:38:22

If you fire people for giving in to sob stories, the rest of the work force will stop giving in to the sob stories fairly quickly. This requires that businesses also hire managers that know what they are doing as well. And spend money on training. But no, instead they choose to rely on what a person has done in the past which is not really all that great a predictor of what they will do in the future if they are facing completely different circumstances than they have ever faced before.

This should also apply to executives who give in to math wizards who claim to have proven that you can turn 99.8% of terrible loans into AAA bonds. Fire ‘em with no parachute and the rest won’t do it the next time.

 
Comment by The_Overdog
2010-08-04 08:13:45

Except that it is hard (legally) to fire people, customer service is an expense, not a profit center, good training is expensive, and the past is a good predictor of what people will do into the future.

It’s a wholly separate thing that people refuse to listen to the past.

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This should also apply to executives who give in to math wizards who claim to have proven that you can turn 99.8% of terrible loans into AAA bonds.
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And your point that you should fire these people is completely at odds to your comment that the past is a poor predictor. You know this was a bad idea because people tried it in the past and it didn’t work.

If you don’t agree that the past is a good predictor, then I guess you have to take the crunchy with the smooth when new ideas don’t work.

 
 
 
 
Comment by arizonadude
2010-08-03 06:16:08

GM just bought a subprime lender so they could finally sell some cars.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-03 06:46:45

Deadbeat financing. Pay a deadbeat to buy your car since you can’t sell it any other way.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-03 06:55:30

And call it a recovery.

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Comment by neuromance
2010-08-03 18:43:41

Why would a lender loan money to someone with little chance of repaying it? Because they’re going to get their profit one way or another. And nowadays, that way seems to be from the taxpayers.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 08:22:20

When are the cash for clunker cars going to be repo’ed????

How many went from a paid off car with cheap insurance to a Big monthly payment with FULL coverage insurance?

Any ideas when they will show up?

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:35:01

Watch as other carmakers, who are all struggling with low sales, follow suit.

Comment by In Montana
2010-08-03 09:01:46

Sure is hard to buy a car these days. I’ve been walking the lots all over town and you’d think they’d be jumping on it but usually not a sales dude to be found. I had to go in the showroom and roust one out when I saw something I wanted to test drive. He said they were down to 2 sales guys per shift.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 09:44:12

It’s not just at the showroom level.

When my Ohio trip was in the “back to the Cleveland airport” phase, I went past a huge auto plant. Ford, I believe.

It was early Saturday afternoon, and the place appeared to be closed until Monday. Car plants didn’t used to be like that.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:26:48

He said they were down to 2 sales guys per shift.

I see the same. I get free oil changes (no doubt as a hook to get me in so they can sell me expensive but unnecessary “maintenance” packages). I usually go in on a Saturday and the dealership is always a ghost town with only a couple of bored looking sales droids in the show room.

This dealership moved into a new “auto park”, leaving behind a modest yet adequate facility (which was probably paid for). The new place is gorgeous, a real Taj Mahal.

I can’t help but wonder how long these guys will last at the facility. The Chrysler dealer across the street folded a mere year after moving into their Taj Mahal, and they had been around for something like 50 years.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 07:44:21

For those who have the option to buy a very nice home for cash, we don’t care what our credit rating is. I never checked what mine is. Yawn!

Comment by SaladSD
2010-08-03 10:51:00

We get it, you’re unattached and rich. Yawn.

 
 
Comment by EggMan
2010-08-03 10:52:28

Another thing they do is to fill out the paperwork so that you can get a FEIN - Federal Employer Identification Number - which just so happens to have the same digit arrangement as as SSN. The mark uses the EIN for years until retirement when it’s… whoopsie!

 
 
Comment by TCM_guy
2010-08-03 05:36:01

Texas teachers pension plan sinking $0.5 billion into bankrupt mall operator. (Not old news, they really are doing this NOW.)

http://tinyurl.com/Texas-Pension-RE

They are paying $10.25/share for new issue stock, for an outfit whose TTM earnings is -$2.76/share, and a “positive book value” of $2.84/sh.

Note: General Growth’s liabilities before the bankruptcy (in April 2009) was $27 billion (with $25 billion in long term debt), their liabilities after the bankruptcy is STILL $27 billion (with $7 billion in long term debt). Their assets (before and after the BK) remained steady (market-to-myth?) at about $28 billion. I say their book value is N-E-G-A-T-I-V-E.

For this kind of fiduciary skill, the state of Texas may just as well hire high school dropouts ($10/hr) to manage their multi-billion dollar pensions. Same results at a lower cost.

Comment by measton
2010-08-03 07:38:18

Oh it’s skill all right.

Skill in stealing from pension plans. These things should be formula based. As far as I can see bribed officials are more than willing to thow pensioners under a bus.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 14:44:35

And this is the real reason why pensions are costing so much… the skimming and graft are out of control. Not to mention whatever other, under the table tricks, are going on.

But let’s blame the people who actually work for their paychecks and earn that pension, instead. ‘Cause everybody knows that the crook is never to blame.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 15:00:52

“kickbacks” was the other word I was looking for.

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Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:26:20

Let us know what the Teachers and PERS are using for help in California? Probably San Quintin or Pelican Point alumni. Couldn’t do any worse.

 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-03 05:51:30

Talked to a gentlman yesterday who said, if it were not for the money ($2,200 a month) he was collecting on his rental house that he was not paying the mortgage on. He would be hurting. I don`t think he understood why I was not happy for him.

Comment by bob
2010-08-03 09:39:48

Argg … the thing that really boils me is that he is openly admitting it. And apparently not embarrased.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 05:53:48

Stressed States Are Forcing Workers to Retire Later ~ WSJ
States are deciding it’s time their workers retire later.

Lawmakers in at least 10 states have voted this year to require many new government employees to work longer before retiring with a full pension, or have increased penalties for early retirement. A similar proposal is pending in California. Mississippi, already among the states requiring more years of service for a pension, is weighing the additional step of increasing its retirement age.

A federal commission studying long-term U.S. fiscal issues is also entertaining the idea of changing the retirement age as one way to shore up Social Security, said a person familiar with the matter. A report is due to President Obama in December.

Individual states, meanwhile, are moving ahead as they respond to the widening gaps between the obligations made to workers and the money expected to be available to pay them, thanks to investment losses and recessionary budget pressures.

“It’s a very positive change that the age for receiving full benefits is increasing,” said Alicia Munnell, director of the Center for Retirement Research at Boston College. “Increasing the retirement age is the single most important thing [states] can do” to tame future pension costs, because it reduces the number of years the state is paying a benefit, she said.

Comment by Mike in Miami
2010-08-03 06:02:20

To fix social security, remove the $106K cap and raise the retirement age to say 120. Imagine all the funds that would free up! We could afford to invade Iran, North Korea AND have enough left over for a Wall Street bailout 2.0. What’s not to like?

 
Comment by combotechie
2010-08-03 06:09:54

“Stressed states are forcing workers to retire later.”

Stressed corporations won’t be far behind. Either will unstressed corporations.

Peoples’ lifespans have been extended. The financial numbers need to catch up. These numbers also include Social Security and Medicare.

Comment by combotechie
2010-08-03 06:32:05

Lots of coporate pensions are funded with the expectation they will get eight percent or so on their invested capital and will dole out their obligations from this eight percent. But eight-plus percent was yesterday’s rate of return; Today’s ROR is a lot less, hence corporations need to put more money in their pension pools.

Corporations don’t like doing this, and they will think of ways to get out of doing it.

Employees beware!

Comment by Kim
2010-08-03 06:48:20

“Corporations don’t like doing this, and they will think of ways to get out of doing it.”

Its called a 401K. Companies that have pensions will convert them to 401Ks and wash their hands of any further responsibility beyond, perhaps, a matching contribution.

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Comment by combotechie
2010-08-03 06:54:02

Or, (door number two) just cut what they are paying to retirees.

A stroke of a pen, and it is done.

 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:39:53

“Companies that have pensions will convert them to 401Ks and wash their hands of any further responsibility beyond”

Will Kemosabe? This has been going on for a long time already.

Are there any Fortune 500 firms that still offer pensions to new hires?

 
Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-03 08:58:21

Old people don’t know much about 401Ks, and the paucity of fixed pension plans.

Trust no one over 55.

 
Comment by butters
2010-08-03 09:09:14

Mine does. A fortune 100 company.

 
Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 11:44:06

Old people don’t know much about 401Ks ??
Trust no one over 55 ??

CoSpgs4…Did your mother nurse you to long ?

 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 14:46:41

“Stressed” corporations have been doing this for decades. Where have you been?

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 06:12:01

This is a Good thing….

I would add if you want Full pension before you are 65 you MUST be retired no other work…prove it with your w2’s….

Also people are living longer due to the sharp decrease in smokers….which they probably didn’t figure this many would quit into to their pension calculations.

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Lawmakers in at least 10 states have voted this year to require many new government employees to work longer before retiring with a full pension

Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 07:56:44

“to require ‘many’ *NEW* government employees to work longer” ( emphasis mine )

Yes, this will be a great help in balancing the books come 2025 ( which is right around the corner! ) Actually, I think MN has the right idea. Sure.., you can go ahead and “retire” at age 50 Mr. Firefighter! ( It’s just that you’ll be penalized for each year you split by X amount )

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 14:55:58

There is so much wrong with that conclusion I don’t know where to begin.

First, whatever you agreed on when you started work 20-40 years will only be worth half (if that much!) of what is was when you started. 2nd jobs are the only thing keeping many grandmas off the streets.

Smoking has little to nothing to do with longevity. It’s diet and civilized hygiene, i.e. clean running water, food safety, basic medicine, high quality sewage handling, work safety and pollution control.

But the US longevity is STILL a few years behind other 1st world nations.

And third, most peoples pensions really aren’t a lot of money. And neither is SS. It takes the 2 for most people just to stay off the street.

But you just keep thinking that way. Be careful what you wish for.

Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 15:56:41

ecofeco,

It’s not possible for ( assuming you’re ref. to ‘my’ post? ) to have taken it more inaccurately.

My POINT was that, if local/state guv’s are having difficulty ‘balancing’ budgets and pension obligations ( today ) sticking it to the “new hires” is nothing more than a proverbial sacrificial lamb.

In order for them to even ‘be’ solvent at some point in the distant future.., ( they have to survive ‘this’ Fiscal Year ) I thought that much should have been obvious?

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:56:42

Sorry, I was referring to aNYCdj’s post. I should have been more specific.

Vagaries of this board system. My bad.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 17:01:08

They’ve been sticking it to the new hires in both government and private industry since the 1980s.

You can google it. Pensions programs have been systematically dismantled starting then.

So again, all this talk about “making fat bank” from a pension is just more smoke being blown up our a’s to distract us from the fact that Wall St. has gutted this country like a Christmas goose over the last 30 years.

 
 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 19:31:00

Eco:

I think you are worng..people quit smoking then taste buds come back and then they eat better…happened to my father….never saw him eat a salad when growing up, but after he quit he would enjoy all the different flavors.

It just seems every day here in the beeg apple…You read about people claiming disability or early retirement for a bad back and then are caught climbing a tree. The numbers just don’t add up anymore

So the newbies suffer and the oldsters get 100%……..i think it will be proven very shortly you really do get what you pay for…and the next generation will be far more corrupt then this one…to make up the shortfall somehow.
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Smoking has little to nothing to do with longevity.

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Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-03 14:37:51

Now that should be interesting for the younger people who cannot get work. Its a catch 22 really, isn’t it?

As an aside — the UK just raised their retirement age for women. It was 60 a couple of months ago, now its 65.

Comment by In Montana
2010-08-03 14:59:10

It used to be different for women here in the US didn’t it? Or did they just make it so men and women both could take early SS retirement at 62? Seems as long ago as getting mail delivered twice a day.

 
 
 
Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-03 05:57:20

Thieves are stealing health care

Medical identity theft is a growing problem, and recovering from the theft can be difficult. Here’s what to watch for and how to protect yourself.

By Liz Pulliam Weston
MSN Money
I recently wrote about how annoying it is to get asked for identification when using a credit card.

But that’s nothing compared with what can happen when you try to get health care in some areas.

Beware medical identity theft
At a recent mammogram appointment in Los Angeles, I was asked for my driver’s license when I checked in at the front desk and again when I met with the intake clerk who took my health insurance information. The woman who guided me back to the exam room didn’t demand my driver’s license, but she did ask me to rattle off my date of birth.

The reason they were so interested in making sure I was who I said I was? Health care identity theft, which is on the rise.

Sierra Morgan of Modesto, Calif., certainly wishes someone had asked for ID when a thief pretending to be her charged a $12,000 liposuction procedure to the health care credit account Morgan had opened to pay for braces for her teeth.

Morgan didn’t learn about the crime until she logged in to the account to pay the bill and saw the charge.

“I was like, ‘What do I do?’” recounted Morgan, 31. “I was freaking out.”

Morgan did have the satisfaction of seeing her doppelgänger arrested. Morgan worked with the clinic manager, who set up another appointment for the thief to get additional services. When the thief showed up, the clinic called the police, and she was hauled off to jail.

Other victims have been dunned for medical procedures, including childbirths, dental work, methadone treatments and even breast implants they hadn’t received, said Linda Foley, the director of the Identity Theft Resource Center in San Diego

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:19:53

I was asked to show proof of identity when I had surgery last year.

Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-03 14:39:20

Probably a good idea. That way they don’t cut anything off they weren’t supposed to!

 
 
 
Comment by Sean
2010-08-03 06:28:36

“It’s a very positive change that the age for receiving full benefits is increasing,”

WHAT? You mean I get to work longer for the same benefits? How does this benefit people?

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: High unemployment and underemployment can be solved by getting these old folks to retire!!! What the heck is so hard about enjoying your golden years?

Comment by measton
2010-08-03 07:45:48

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: High unemployment and underemployment can be solved by getting these old folks to retire!!! What the heck is so hard about enjoying your golden years

Answer: No money, pensions will bust, medical costs skyrocketing. The last thing I’d do at age 65 is retire. I’d make them pull me out with a truck.

Comment by Sean
2010-08-03 08:26:40

F that. I can name a lot of things I’d like to do in retirement:

-Golf
-Boat
-Fish
-Restore an old Camaro or Corvette
-Spend time with my family
-Spend time with friends
-Coach little league baseball
-Volunteer with a Veterans group

The Starbucks by my house has an elderly gentlemen working as a Barista. It’s pretty clear he is new and still adjusting to working behind the counter at a coffee shop. When people see him they may think “Good for him!” but I think “Is this how you envisioned your life 20-30 years ago? Serving Frappachinos to cubicle jerks?

If he wants to work, good for him. If he has to work, he didn’t do something right. (But I can’t talk about Boomers being financially responsible. It’s only us young people who need to watch their money)

 
Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 08:52:41

Retirement is for old horses and cows - put out to pasture. The brain deteriorates fast with either lots of alcohol or no challenges.

And of course you should not forget that many people still working past traditional retirement age are still putting money at risk in investments to start businesses - i.e. which hire more employees. Does not matter which country they invest in.

It would be nice to take off three months at a time from work and just enjoy a location during its best climatic timee of the year (whether winter in Phoenix or summer in Flagstaff).

Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 09:20:52

Bill in Los Angeles,

Yeah, you could say I’ve become hyper-sensitive about that. I see a lot of ppl that weren’t really what you’d describe as ‘drinkers’ all throughout their working lives suddenly “discover” alcohol in their ret. years?

Unlike those of us that have been hard at it all the while.., they’re going about it like they were teenagers. But they’re not.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 09:46:29

Yeah, you could say I’ve become hyper-sensitive about that. I see a lot of ppl that weren’t really what you’d describe as ‘drinkers’ all throughout their working lives suddenly “discover” alcohol in their ret. years?

A now deceased friend was moved into an assisted living facility by her children. Wasn’t her choice to go, but the kids decided that she could no longer live on her own.

My friend noticed that many of her fellow residents were drinking themselves to death. And she wasn’t the first elderly person to relate such stories to me.

 
Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:44:41

I suppose you turn to drink if your life is empty. My wife and I are in our active retirement years. Tennis, including playing on USTA-sanctioned teams. Golf (under $25 a round with cart at courses in this area). Hikes in the nearby mountains. We own a boat with another couple. We live in a community with over 1,000 other retirees and there is every imaginable group and club. Physically we’re probably more fit now than we were in the last years prior to retirement.

The nearby university allows seniors to audit any course that isn’t filled, for free. You just gotta buy the books.

Despite a retirement week that consists of six Saturdays and a Sunday, my wife and I relish the occasional day when there’s nothing on our schedule.

We have been fully retired for about five years now. And I must admit I was bored at least a couple of times during the long, cold winter that just passed.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 12:15:59

Bill in Carolina,

Oh.., OH..! My heart is pumping PEANUT BUTTER for the “long, cold winter” you’ve had to endure! :)

No, I agree. And that’s what’s made watching some of these folks ( here in ’sunny’ Oregon ) so painful. They really don’t know the 1st thing about drinking and I think that’s where they get in trouble.

Not that there’s a ‘right’ way to do Meth or alcohol or whatever? They don’t realize, sure, you can get politely smashed on MonDAY ( but… it’s going to make for an awfully looong week? ) Now facing down the barrel it does, ‘what’? Right! ( Lead to more drinking! )

Even in retirement, either leave it alone or make sure it remains as a ’special’ event.

 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:16:07

Yeah, I think that it would be boring to have a conventional retirement. My in-laws who are laden with pensions they collected as my father-in-law moved around the world seem rather bored with their old school retirement. He spends the whole day doing crossword puzzles and watching TV.

That said, I wouldn’t mind being in a situation where I have enough stashed away to be able to take extend periods of time off. I would also prefer doing something less stressful than what I do now. A courtesy shutlle driver job could be amusing, you get to meet people and such. Of course the pay would stink, but that’s where the nest egg comes in.

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Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 11:46:07

He spends the whole day doing crossword puzzles and watching TV.

My mother’s the same way. Not so much a TV watcher, but a puzzle doer.

Me? Just one snippet of one puzzle and I have a serious case of the get me outta heres.

 
 
 
Comment by In Montana
2010-08-03 09:18:22

Fine. So we Boomers get to listen to gen Xers and Yers that we won’t get out of the way and let them have our jobs.

Definitely getting mixed messages.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:09:52

Like Corporate America isn’t shoving boomers out the door.

And they are hiring plenty of youngsters … in Chindia.

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Comment by Sean
2010-08-03 13:59:05

There is no mixed message. Work, save for retirement, retire in your 60’s and enjoy life. Then have younger people fill the positions, just like you did when you entered the work force. Circle of life brother.

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Comment by Bill in Los Angeles
2010-08-03 19:27:45

Sorry. It was that way 40 years ago because most people did not live long enough after retirement to be bored! Now people are living much longer lives and it’s beyond silly to put a mind at waste for 20 years.

Also there is a birth dearth. Just think if every boomer did like their parents and had large families! Most boomers I know have no children.

 
 
 
 
Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:29:49

“It’s a very positive change that the age for receiving full benefits is increasing,”

WHAT? You mean I get to work longer for the same benefits? How does this benefit people?

Get with the program! It’s double plus good! Big Brother says so!

So much for Barry being a socialist/marxist/commie. Things would be no different today had McCain won. Tweedle Dee vs. Tweedle Dum.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 14:58:28

What the heck is so hard about enjoying your golden years?

Money. (was that a trick question?)

 
 
Comment by rusty
2010-08-03 06:31:49

nice rental for short term, the guy is really honest about being in pre-foreclosure as well.

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/apa/1874592412.html

Comment by jeff saturday
2010-08-03 07:18:45

“The house is in pre-foreclosure and that is why I’m leasing the home below market so everyone wins.”

He wins, the tennant wins and everyone else loses.

Comment by JackRussell
2010-08-03 10:45:36

What’s to stop someone from signing a 5-year lease to a buddy at way below market rates?

 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-08-03 07:53:45

Mira Bay. bwahahahahaha! This was probably the first bubble development in this area, a pretentious piece of crap built over a swamp on unstable fill, where seawalls are cracking and people can’t get their watercraft out unless it is high tide.

I’ve commented on this development before. Prior to “Mira Bay”, it was mudflats where people went clamming. When there was a moon tide, water crept over Rte 41 on occasion. Mira Bay was supposed to be the “La-dee-da” development here in this area, but I know a dental hygenist who bought there with her sister. Wonder if they’re still living there. Before building even started, you had people camping out and flipping their contracts.

One good hurricane and that’s the end of Mira Bay, unless the toxic brew from the Gulf gets there first. This guy should be paying someone $2,000 hazard pay to occupy his POS, not renting it for that.

Comment by palmetto
2010-08-03 08:20:28

I know I sound bitingly sarcastic when I discuss Mira Bay, but for those who think I may be a bit over the top in my criticism, this place probably has many more problems than the public even knows about.

When I first moved to this area in 2000, the land where Mira Bay now sits was just a tangle of mangrove swamp and sand hillocks and mudflats. As I mentioned, that’s where the locals dug shellfish. Around 2001, 2002, it began to be touted as the last undeveloped piece of land on Tampa Bay with waterfront access. A lot of it was underwater anyway at certain phases of the moon, during storms, etc. It is true that people did camp out to be first in line to buy and then flipped their contracts. I used to know a woman who was one of the sales agents in the development during the early days and she had some stories to tell.

Another “charming” feature of Mira Bay is the spectacular view of the Tampa Electric power plant, complete with belching smokestacks. The lady I know who used to work there told me that buyers would request properties that faced away from that view.

Anyway, some homes in there reached as high as 5 million bucks, but I don’t think that’s the case anymore. The land was filled in, canals were dug, the entrance with a faux lighthouse and fountain went up, the houses were built with a “Key West” flair, much of it courtesy of our local illegal immigrant labor. The final touch was this huge grassy berm on Rte 41 to give the hosed homeowners the delusion they lived in an “exclusive” gated community separate from the common folk of South Hillsborough County.

Last year there was a story in the local fishwrap about the cracking seawalls and a sinkhole or two, plus the complaints about people who had watercraft that couldn’t exit to the bay unless it was high tide.

I just hate pretension and lipstick on a pig. That pig will eventually be re-claimed by Tampa Bay, and probably sooner rather than later. I have no sympathy for the buyers in there. None. All you had to do was have half an eye to see what it was all about.

This guy who’s renting his pre-foreclosure is a bit silly for touting the $2,000 a month rent as being “below market”. He’s trying to appeal to those who have the sort of mentality to be hosed by faux affluence and delusions of grandeur.

Comment by lavi d
2010-08-03 12:47:36

I know I sound bitingly sarcastic when I discuss Mira Bay, but for those who think I may be a bit over the top in my criticism, this place probably has many more problems than the public even knows about.

Thanks for taking the time to type in that extended review.

I like reading stuff like that and you are an exceptionally clear and articulate writer.

Reminds me of this story

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Comment by potential buyer
2010-08-03 14:57:45

Those people were looking for any excuse to get out of their obligations. Have they even opened up any walls to see if they were damaged.

I’m suspecting an ambulance chasing lawyer for this one.

 
 
 
Comment by rusty
2010-08-03 08:22:06

Saw a house on CL for sale. Nice, very big house in the 4-500k range originally. 75k cash, firm. The catch was a sinkhole!

They even tried to take nice pics of the house, that made me laugh. Be like taking nice pictures of a wrecked car!

So many things that can go wrong with a house, never understand the drive to own one.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 08:35:20

yup it was as Ben says a Mania…… people lined up and even camped out on manhattan sidewalks overnight to get a number, and a chance to buy.

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Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 07:18:53

First was yesterday’s story about a firm predicting DOW 12,000 soon, and now Turbo Tax Timmy says the recession is over.

But despite these challenges, there is good news to report:

• Exports are booming because American companies are very competitive and lead the world in many high-tech industries.

• Private job growth has returned — not as fast as we would like, but at an earlier stage of this recovery than in the last two recoveries. Manufacturing has generated 136,000 new jobs in the past six months.

• Businesses have repaired their balance sheets and are now in a strong financial position to reinvest and grow.

• American families are saving more, paying down their debt and borrowing more responsibly. This has been a necessary adjustment because the borrow-and-spend path we were on wasn’t sustainable.

• The auto industry is coming back, and the Big Three — Chrysler, Ford and General Motors — are now leaner, generating profits despite lower annual sales.

• Major banks, forced by the stress tests to raise capital and open their books, are stronger and more competitive. Now, as businesses expand again, our banks are better positioned to finance growth.

• The government’s investment in banks has already earned more than $20 billion in profits for taxpayers, and the TARP program will be out of business earlier than expected — and costing nearly a quarter of a trillion dollars less than projected last year.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 08:02:43

If the market is heading towards DJIA = 12K, it sure is taking a zig-zag course!

Time for a hair-of-the-dog hangover cure?

US STOCKS SNAPSHOT-Market slips further after orders, home sales
NEW YORK | Tue Aug 3, 2010 10:08am EDT

NEW YORK Aug 3 (Reuters) - U.S. stocks extended losses on Tuesday after data showed contracts for pending home resales fell to a record low and factory orders declined more than expected in June.

The Dow Jones industrial average .DJI dropped 56.54 points, or 0.53 percent, to 10,617.84. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index .SPX fell 7.58 points, or 0.67 percent, to 1,118.28. The Nasdaq Composite Index .IXIC lost 19.28 points, or 0.84 percent, to 2,276.08.

The market opened lower as disappointing results from Dow Chemical Co and Procter & Gamble pushed investors to the sidelines after the S&P 500 hit a 10-week high.

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:47:28

Zig-zag is better than straight up. Straight up is always quickly followed by straight down.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 08:23:04

I guess since TTT could not figure out Turbo Tax, that explains these comments.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner: Unemployment Could Go Up Before It Comes Down
Unemployment Could Rise ‘Temporarily’ As More People Enter Labor Force.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner acknowledged that it is still a “tough economy” for most Americans, and warned it’s possible the unemployment rate will go up for a couple of months before it comes down as more people enter the labor force.
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner discusses the state of the economy.

“When they see a little hope that there may be jobs out there, they start to come back in again. And that can cause the measured unemployment rate to go up — temporarily,” Geithner told “Good Morning America’s” George Stephanopoulos in an exclusive interview. “But what we expect to see, and I think most forecasters expect this…is an economy that’s gradually healing, gradually strengthening, businesses starting to add people back.”

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-03 08:36:22

So he’s basically admitting there’s a legion of workers out there just floating in the ether?

Gee, what are all those people doing with their spare time, snapping up foreclosures?

TTT = Knob

Comment by Al
2010-08-03 11:19:45

So the message from TTT is clear. We’ve got to discourage more of the unemployed. It’s the easiest way to get the numbers looking better.

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Comment by CoSpgs4
2010-08-03 09:03:53

What a twit Timmy is. Tommy The Twit.

How he has the gumption to state the above is beyond reason. Gormless gospel from the Marxist gossoon.

 
 
Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-03 09:34:20

To what degree do those exports and rebounding mfg. owe to the once againing weakening dollar? What will be the response of our trading partners?

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:07:28

We’re Americans! We’re supposed to buy imported stuff! Exports? Pffft! That’s for losers who actually work.

Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:37:42

‘ —no coffee for loosers ‘. ‘But the leads are weak !’

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 15:06:11

How can they say there is job growth when 400K people are still making first time UE claims EVERY MONTH?!

Are there 401,000 jobs being created every month?

More @#!*$~ doublespeak.

 
Comment by pismoclam
2010-08-03 15:35:20

Barnes and Noble being sold !!!

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 08:12:54

Consumer spending and personal incomes were flat in June while savings rate rises.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Consumers did not boost their spending in June and their incomes failed to increase, further evidence that the economic recovery slowed in the spring. And Americans saved at the highest rate in nearly a year.

Personal spending was unchanged in June, the Commerce Department reported Tuesday. It was the third straight month of lackluster consumer demand. Incomes were also flat, the weakest showing in nine months.

The disappointing report on spending and income was among a raft of data released Tuesday that confirmed the economy ended the April-to-June quarter on a weak note.

Factory orders dropped 1.2 percent in June to a seasonally adjusted $406.4 billion, the Commerce Department said. It was the second consecutive decline after nine straight months of gains. Lower demand for steel, construction machinery and aircraft dragged down the figure.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:41:40

Something tells me that back to school spending will be a bust.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 15:10:40

Back to school is always guaranteed income for retailers and related education industry. There are simply too many things that HAVE to be bought. Have. To.

What will probably happen is that the sales figures won’t meet expectations. But then Wall St. has no clue how Main St. really works, so nothing new there.

 
 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 08:14:32

Pa. CD, DVD manufacturer plans more layoffs
The Associated Press ~ 08/03/2010

OLYPHANT, Pa.—A northeastern Pennsylvania manufacturer of CDs and DVDs plans to cut more than 300 jobs at a plant where 150 others were just laid off.

Cinram Manufacturing Inc. has informed state regulators of a plan to layoff 310 employees at its facility in Olyphant, near Scranton. Those cuts would happen in December.

Cinram laid off 200 employees in March 2009. An additional 150 layoffs were announced in May and took effect on Monday.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 08:38:41

well we all steal the cheap disposable McMusic being made today…….

And I still pay full price for bands i like.

Comment by In Montana
2010-08-03 09:26:11

We “all” do? I buy my downloads at Amazon for .99/each.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 11:25:22

I dont want a fake copy of music I like. Yes a 128K mp3 is 9% of the .wav file and you pay full price…you are getting ripped off.

If I pay full price i want the cd…otherwise its limewire

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Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:54:51

Even my lousy ears (I’m over 65) can detect the difference between an MP3 and a CD track, even while wearing a cheap headset.

I never thought about it, but paying full price for 9% of the content really is stupid. The next step down will probably be “telephone quality.” That’s 8 kHz sampling rate, 8 bits per sample.

BTW, do bands at live events digitize the output of their mics and instruments and convert it to MP3 before feeding it to the speakers?

 
Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-03 12:12:35

BTW, do bands at live events digitize the output of their mics and instruments and convert it to MP3 before feeding it to the speakers?

For live music, No. A mic sends an analog signal to a pre-amp then to an amp which amplifies the analog signal. Same with most guitars etc.

MP3 is just a compressed version of music which is in a digital playback media such as CD’s and other digital music file formats.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 12:50:41

RioAmerican,

Of late, there’s been huge surge to get back to that analog sound listeners miss so much. Particularly where guitar players are concerned.

But a LOT of that “rack-mounted” stuff is very much digital. And computer controlled. One of the telltale signs is that virtually -none- of the performers mic’s ( especially Ashlee Simpson’s ) have any feedback or a “bell” to them.

If you listen to older ‘live’ recordings you can hear mic’s in the background starting to growl and tech’s scrambling to figure out which one? By the by and jst for a goof, I’m thinking about seeing Joan Jett just to say I did? FWIW, she’s always tried to remain authentic and I’ll be coming thru Eugene, OR that day anyway?

 
Comment by Chris M
2010-08-03 12:53:08

If I pay full price i want the cd…otherwise its limewire

Personally, I’m fine with MP3s. Whatever makes you happy…

 
Comment by Carl Morris
2010-08-03 13:36:28

By the by and jst for a goof, I’m thinking about seeing Joan Jett just to say I did?

I only know her hits, and saw her once opening for someone I wanted to see (Boston maybe?). Didn’t care much for her band, the playing was so crude and simplistic it made AC/DC sound like Eric Johnson. I understand some people are into that, though.

People talk about MP3s versus .wav, I can definitely tell the difference at 128k, but at 192k I start having a hard time hearing the difference unless it’s on really good speakers. So I burn everything at 192k and I’m happy with it almost all the time. I agree that I like having the CD, though just in case I want to burn it differently later.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 14:22:43

Carl Morris,

Really more just in the interest of being ‘consistent’ I suppose? I’ve seen a -lot- of “simplistic and crude” acts over the years ( why not ‘her’s’? )

Actually Eric Johnson is an incredibly complex musician and I’ve seen tape of him performing. He does a great job of pulling it off. Others.., not so much. There’s bands you see ‘live’ and then there’s “headphone music” that really was never intended to be performed outside of a studio setting.

I think what ‘may’ mke Joan something of a cornerstone is that pop msic took some -hard- and divergent turns in the mid/late 70’s. She’s about all that’s left from that (1) turn. The Bee Gees on the other hand dominated the charts thru-out and could probably buy a small country had they felt like it?

 
Comment by In Montana
2010-08-03 15:13:09

Oh my, the audiophiles sniff at my mp3 files… .99 means I don’t have to buy the whole CD to get a song I want to learn, and I’m legal. A godsend to singers & musicians.

If I really want something I order the CD.

 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 15:27:10

Oh my, the audiophiles sniff at my mp3 files… .99 means I don’t have to buy the whole CD to get a song I want to learn, and I’m legal. A godsend to singers & musicians.

If I really want something I order the CD.

I’m part of the audition team for Tucson’s community radio station, KXCI. As such, I’m forever listening to CDs by this, that, and the other up-and-coming artist.

After listening to, oh, more than 100 of these shiny platters in the past few months, I’m sorry to report that there are very few CDs with more than one or two good songs. So, I can well understand the popularity of $.99 downloads.

 
Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 16:02:35

Arizona Slim,

LOL, yeah and sadly that’s nothing new ( hence the 45rpm record? ) I read once that of the 100,000 “on-line albums” avail. for download ( less than 20% of them have een been listened to once! )

Who was it here that said they accidentally found some Ipod and that 90% of it was unintelligible? Anyway, that’s a good part of the reason these “Legacy Acts” are worth so much. They have an established following ( even if they ‘were’ One-Hit Wonders )

 
 
Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-03 12:43:34

Well that’s above full price.

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Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 15:51:46

Quite often classical CDs cost less than $0.99 each when bought in sets. I got a really nice set of the complete works of Mozart for $99. It’s a 180 CD set, built around the orchestral works performed by Koopman conducting a chamber orchestra in Amsterdam. All this and no DRM to worry about.

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Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 23:19:41

CD’s are recorded at 1440kbsec so you can do the math of 128k 192k 256k etc.

Flac is a lossless scheme because all it does it removes the error correction, interpolation and timing markers for cd players…so you get nothing but the digital bits of the music.

It doesnt compress anything….

 
 
 
 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 15:56:08

IIRC the Olyphant plant was Sony’s first US plant built to produce the then-new CDs back in the early 1980s. Prior to that time ALL CDs sold in the US were imports.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 08:18:02

Boeing to Cut 800 Jobs from Long Beach Workforce
Lower Operating Costs In Oklahoma Were A Factor In The Company’s Decision

LONG BEACH — The Boeing Co. announced Monday it will move two defense programs to Oklahoma City over the next 18-months, resulting in the loss of 800 jobs in Long Beach.

The reductions will involve 250 layoffs and 550 transfers beginning in early 2011.

Boeing will move its C-130 Avionics Modernization program beginning in the first quarter of 2011.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 08:24:59

There’s gonna be some serious culture shock for the transfers. At least they’ll be able to buy a big house for a relative pittance. Of course with job volatility they might want to rent.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 11:56:20

There’s gonna be some serious culture shock for the transfers. At least they’ll be able to buy a big house for a relative pittance. Of course with job volatility they might want to rent.

Right after they were married in 1949, my mother and father moved to Bartlesville, Oklahoma. The deal was that Dad would be a Phillips Petroleum employee for many years, if not his entire career.

Well, the small-mindedness of the locals, not to mention the racial prejudice, got to my parents in a hurry. Wasn’t too long after they moved there that Dad started looking into grad schools. He already had a B.S. in chemical engineering, and he decided that the Ph.D. was the degree to get.

If you know your Oklahoma history, this was the time during which the Bartlesville public librarian, Miss Brown, was fired on trumped-up charges. Apparently, magazines like The Nation were considered too subversive for the locals to read.

The real reason for Miss Brown’s firing was that she was friendly enough with black people to go out to lunch with them. At a segregated restaurant, no less.

The firing was quite controversial in Bartlesville, and more than a few of the young engineers who’d recently been hired into Phillips found it highly offensive. A lot of their spouses were pretty ticked off too. And, to the amazement of the Phillips and local PTB, those guys busted out their resumes and found jobs elsewhere.

As for my dad, he earned his master’s and Ph.D. in just under three years at the University of Illinois. He’s gone back to Bartlesville on business, but my mother has vowed never to set foot in Oklahoma again.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 15:15:12

I visited OKC about 10 years ago and was shocked to find that cock fights were still legal.

That pretty much did it for me.

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Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 11:47:59

Lower Operating Costs In Oklahoma Were A Factor In The Company’s Decision ??

And lower cost of living for the workers…

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:56:10

Not just Oklahoma. Boeing has started singing the old song, “Nothin’ could be finer than to be in Carolina…”

 
 
 
Comment by peter a
2010-08-03 08:31:20

Completely of topic but the last paragraph has me LMAO

Three naked German women found in woods

Published: 2 Aug 10 14:34 CET
Online: http://www.thelocal.se/28142/20100802/

Dictionary tool Double click on a word to get a translation

A search party was called off in southern Sweden on Sunday as three naked German women lost in the woods eventually managed to relocate their holiday home without the aid of a police helicopter or sniffer dogs.

The naturist campers, 40, 50 and 56-years-old, wandered into the woods outside Karlshamn at around 4pm. Friends holidaying with the women raised the alarm when the nude ramblers failed to return to their cottage by Långasjön lake, newspaper Expressen reports.

Police deployed a helicopter and sniffer dogs to aid in the search but were quickly able to call off the hunt when the women returned to the cottage of their own accord at 10.30pm.

The women, who were naked when they set off on their stroll, told police they got lost shortly after leaving their lakeside cottage. They ended up groping around in the dark for the last hour of their wayward walk before eventually find their way back to their naturist companions.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 08:44:41

yeah sure why cant they be 20 24 and 29

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 10:05:22

They probably would have found them a lot sooner

 
 
Comment by pressboardbox
2010-08-03 11:43:36

What exactly were the sniffer-dogs trained to sniff?

Comment by Bill in Carolina
2010-08-03 11:57:20

Excuse me, I’ve got to go put out my mind’s eye.

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 16:40:40

“…they got lost shortly after leaving their lakeside cottage.”

Next time, hopefully they will bring along their GPS, or at least a compass!

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-08-03 08:34:50

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced that it had reached a $75 million settlement with Citigroup last week. In other words, a government agency accused and fined a bank that is in part owned by the government. The massive deceptions that accompanied the subprime collapse and financial crisis have left us suing ourselves, and raise some interesting ethical questions, The New York Times’s Andrew Ross Sorkin writes in his latest DealBook column.

Forgiveness may well be easier to get than permission, but Robert Khuzami, the S.E.C.’s director of enforcement, is trying to change that, and hopes the punitive action will serve to deter more wrongdoing.

For shareholders in the banks, his campaign is cold comfort, since they have already lost out with the original fraud, and are then asked to shell out for the lawsuits that follow. By going after corporations, whose costs are shareholders’ costs, the S.E.C. is letting the individuals truly responsible for bad decisions slip away

BINGO!

Comment by polly
2010-08-03 11:21:44

“By going after corporations, whose costs are shareholders’ costs, the S.E.C. is letting the individuals truly responsible for bad decisions slip away”

Unless the shareholders vote in a board that refuses to renew executive contracts with absurd payments and golden parachutes.

Yeah, I know I am living in a fantasy world, but until someone on the boards of these companies grows a pair, this will keep happening. Executive compensation reform, demanded by the shareholders is the only way to fix this.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:33:00

polly, they can’t “grow a pair” or Wall St. will cut them right off and make sure that someone else more sympathetic is their replacement.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:34:12

Oh, and the shareholders haven’t had any control since the 1980s.

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Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:35:57

That’s one of the “communist” parts of Corporate Communist Capitalism©®™.

 
 
 
 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:31:04

When living in a country with the largest prison population in the world, “asking forgiveness” is not a very good strategy.

Reason number 34567 why we’re so dumb.

 
 
Comment by measton
2010-08-03 08:49:12

Russians are not used to heat waves. When the high temperatures that have overwhelmed Russia over the past six weeks first arrived in June, some 1,200 Russians drowned at the country’s beaches. “The majority of those who drowned were drunk,” the Emergencies Ministry concluded in mid-July, citing the Russian habit of taking vodka to cool off by the sea. But while overconsumption of vodka is a familiar scourge in Russia, extreme heat is not, and as the worst heat wave on record spawns wildfires that are destroying entire villages, Russian officials have made what for them is a startling admission: global warming is very real.

At a meeting of international sporting officials in Moscow on July 30, Russian President Dmitri Medvedev announced that in 14 regions of the country, “practically everything is burning. The weather is anomalously hot.” Then, as TV cameras zoomed in on the perspiration shining on his forehead, Medvedev announced, “What’s happening with the planet’s climate right now needs to be a wake-up call to all of us, meaning all heads of state, all heads of social organizations, in order to take a more energetic approach to countering the global changes to the climate.” (See pictures of Medvedev and Vladimir Putin on vacation.)

For Medvedev, such sentiments mark a striking about-face. Only last year, he announced that Russia, the world’s third largest polluter after China and the U.S., would be spewing 30% more planet-warming gases into the atmosphere by 2020. “We will not cut our development potential,” he said during the summer of 2009 (an unusually mild one), just a few months before attending the Copenhagen climate summit, which in December failed to reach a substantial agreement on how to limit carbon emissions

I love how a single event changes their minds, but mounds of data did not. It’s not real until it bites you.

Comment by edgewaterjohn
2010-08-03 09:18:28

Not only were jobs outsourced to China, so was a lot of our pollution. Reducing worldwide pollution therefore hinges on a fundamental rethinking of our consumer lifestyle/economy. IMHO, such a rethinking is NOT at all compatible with Wall St/Madison Ave/Hollywood’s image of what it is to be an American.

Ah, but here’s the kicker - just as we may be awakening a huge portion of the world’s population yearns for our postwar lifestyle, and many are on the cusp of attaining that in numbers that rival and even surpass our own. Good luck trying to dissaude them from having their own time in the sun!

Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 12:09:12

Not only were jobs outsourced to China, so was a lot of our pollution ??

+1…Spot on edgewaterjohn…Out of site, out of mind…

 
 
Comment by WT Economist
2010-08-03 09:20:30

Really, and if we get a cool summer next year that is a little warmer than the last cool summer, everyone will say the planet is fine. And they when we get a hot summer that is hotter than this one, everyone will go nuts again.

Comment by polly
2010-08-03 11:28:20

That whole weather does not equal climate idea does seem to be a hard concept to grasp. That being said, my understanding is that this year’s hot weather on the east coast has something to do with where we are in the el nino/la nina cycle. Does that cycle have any effect on Russia? Moscow is pretty far inland.

NY Times says that hot weather in Russia is good for US wheat farmers. Time to start pulling those subsidies….

Comment by LehighValleyGuy
2010-08-03 12:15:59

If weather does not equal climate, then why should we worry about climate change?

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Comment by polly
2010-08-03 15:58:36

Sigh. Pardon me for using a little shorthand in my lingo.

The weather you observe in your area is not sufficient to draw good conclusions about what is happening with the overall climate of the planet, expecially if you only reference a few days, weeks, or months. However, if you get sufficient change in the overall climate of the planet, you will see significant changes in weather in lots of places.

 
Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:40:04

You are correct.

And there are significant changes in weather in lots of places. Records have been broken for the last ten years.

And the sunspots haven’t even started back up yet.

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 18:07:28

To use a EE expresssion…..weather is the noise, climate is the signal.

 
 
 
 
Comment by palmetto
2010-08-03 09:24:06

“It’s not real until it bites you.”

That’s usually the case in just about anything.

 
Comment by Chris M
2010-08-03 12:43:28

Russian officials have made what for them is a startling admission: global warming is very real.

I can’t wait ’til it’s disproved again this winter.

Comment by measton
2010-08-03 14:23:41

When was it disproved??

It’s always seemed to me that global warming is only one of many reasons to make our country less dependent on carbon based fuels.

Comment by polly
2010-08-03 15:59:59

The first and best reason being that people who don’t like us are sitting on top of a lot of the oil. Why would we want to give them so much power?

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Comment by RioAmericanInBrasil
2010-08-03 11:14:39

Saturday night, Midwest town:

Three 24 year olds leave a bar and didn’t want to get a DUI so they decide to walk 3 miles home but didn’t want to walk on the highway but rather on the parallel Railroad tracks.

A passing train sees them, calls a RR canine cop who waits for them and tells the kids to halt or he’ll sick the biting dog on them. Hancuffs the 2 guys together and the girl separately while he harraings them for 45 min. and cites each one for trespassing saying the fine is going to be big. He will not just give them a warning.

The RR cop says that since 9/11 the RR does not even need to put “no trespassing” sighs out and can arrest on sight. Two local cops show up and ask the kids why they didn’t walk down the highway and the kids say because they were afraid they’d get stopped by the cops and the cops said, “yea, you’re probably right”.

Before they are let go, the RR cop gets all nice and understanding but says he can’t just give them a warning because he already wrote the tickets. “Have a nice night”.

Comment by butters
2010-08-03 11:38:03

Obma’s Amerikkka. Nothing has changed.

Comment by In Colorado
2010-08-03 11:50:49

More like Corporatist America. The Railroads have had special laws in their favor since the 19th century, including their own police force.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:44:45

Exactly. Nothing new here.

But don’t forget… do NOT screw with the railroads. They have an entirely different idea of what “civil rights” means and they can enforce it.

They are also one the biggest political influences in every state and often control most of the natural resources.

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Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 11:52:02

The RR cop says that since 9/11 the RR does not even need to put “no trespassing” sighs out and can arrest on sight ??

Obma’s Amerikkka. Nothing has changed ??

9/11 occurred on Bush’s watch my friend and OHS is his baby also…

Comment by butters
2010-08-03 12:24:35

Oh jeez, lighten up.

It’s all toungue in cheek. You don’t need to be so defensive about O all the time.

9/11 occurred on Bush’s watch my friend and OHS is his baby also…

It’s interesting that you still blame Bush for everything though. We had an election, you guy won. He can change some of the stuff, no?

Go out and read Glenn Greenwald for a change and you will see how O is no different than B in regards to civil liberties.

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Comment by scdave
2010-08-03 12:47:12

It’s all toungue in cheek ??

Fine, if that was the case with your post then I will retract…

still blame Bush for everything though ??

Everything that happened on his watch “yes” in particular Iraq…That act was “criminal”…Men & Women are still dieing and families will suffer for the remainder of their lives…

 
Comment by Mags57
2010-08-03 20:46:50

So Bush gets all the blame for 9/11 even though he was Pres for less than a year at that time, but I’m guessing that you don’t think that Obama gets all the blame for things, like the economy or the continued efforts in either Iraq/Afghan, that happened/are happening in HIS 1st and 2nd years right?

 
Comment by Happy2bHeard
2010-08-04 16:00:56

He said Bush gets the blame for Iraq, not for 9/11.

One did not necessitate the other. As bad as he was, Hussein was a counterweight to Iran in the region. We may have been better off to leave him in place. We went into Iraq on trumped up evidence. Bush deserves the blame for that.

9/11 is a whole different issue.

 
 
 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 11:48:35

My mother’s father was a railroad cop. And, if he was anything like my mother, giving him guff would have been a very bad idea.

 
Comment by polly
2010-08-03 11:58:01

Why aren’t cops given the right to decide to rip up a ticket? They are allowed to decide when to write one in the first place, so why are they not allowed to make a decision to “unwrite” it when more information becomes available - like the fact that he was dealing with young adults that made the very responsible decision not to drive home while drunk even though it meant an hour long walk.

This is not a rhetorical question. I want to know. Is is assumed that there is a risk of ripping up tickets in return for bribes? That is just as easy to do at the threatening to write the ticket stage.

Comment by Cassandra
2010-08-03 14:16:43

I’ve always wondered where cops get off with any discretion at all. Isn’t that what the judge is for?

 
Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 15:38:40

If the guy is looking for a bribe….it can happen. The old method was to keep a folded up $20 bill next to your driver’s license. When you handed the cop your license the bill would be “accidentally stuck to” your license. If he took the bribe, he’d hand you back your license and tell you to scram. If he asked what the $20 was for, you’d just say “it just must have got stuck to the license”.

I don’t know but I’ll bet all tickets have a serial number on them, and cops have to account for all of them.

 
 
Comment by Va Beyatch in Norfolk
2010-08-03 12:49:54

They should blow up the train in retaliation.

 
 
Comment by mikeinbend
2010-08-03 12:29:20

BAC has a foreclosure/auction subsidiary, Recontrust, that is literally setting up thousands of auctions in 12 states or so, maybe trying to expedite the purgeing of problem loans. In our county it was 530 auctions one week ago, and 553 now. So they are setting up foreclosure auctions faster than they can liquidate the homes.

Does a home that does not sell to a third party (most of them, as opening bids are set at “wishing price” amts) at auction go back to the lender, or does anyone know what happens to them? They only release opening bids close to the auction date, and they are usually the loan amount, but when they dont sell I assume they remain on the banks balance sheet to be dealt with later. Pawned off to freddie mac, or what, but they must remain a problem, even though recontrust is trying to liquidate, the soaring numbers indicate only limited success.
What happens to us when our home becomes property of Bofa after it fails to sell at auction. Who is gonna pay 300k for a house they can get from Freddie Mac Homesteps for 192k. Or the house we sold for in 2006 for 350k in the same complex; now available for 165k(someone must have taken the furniture, never made a payment, stripped it, and took off, profiting on a 0 down loan. We remember paying closing costs to get the deal done). cuz noone seems to want to buy it after 2 yrs on the market now.
With such a glut of similar homes selling for 100k plus under most FB’s mortgage amts, why would BofA want us out even though we are no longer paying, I wonder.
Our opening bid at auction will likely be about 300k. Problem is, homes like ours are now selling for 220k. They are available from Homesteps(Freddie), our nasty neighbor of lore finally moved out a few doors down and the unit promptly went up for sale. These folks paid 360k, and are selling it furnished(20k expense), and are asking 240k! “Please just let us lose 140k plus realtor fees and lowball offer discount we will have to give. Freddie is asking 192k for a similar unit , and the pristine unit next door to us just went for 219k (they paid 380k).

So opening bid of 300k is not going to attract many greater fools, and my wife’s home will likely go back to the bank. This will happen in late november, Recontrust has sent us 20 letters, posted NOD’s and NOS’s on our door, telling us that our auction date is in November. If it goes back to the bank, do we still have to move out on or shortly after the auction date?

I have heard of deed in lieu, cash for keys, and banks leasing back props to FB’s. We have not talked to Recontrust—yet. But before the sale, we will want to explore the ways that they may be able to “help” us. We also want them to produce the original note that would prove to us their right to foreclose. Also we were surprised seeing my wife’s property assigned an auction date before ever notifying her of a NOD or NOS!

But BAC is acting quickly to try and liquidate their bad assets by setting up sales aplenty, but the opening bids at auction are not in line with comps so it is a somewhat futile effort, seems to me.

Well over 3700 auctions set up for this year in Oregon, and growing. Extrapolated times 50 states that means around 200k auctions nationwide, give or take, for just one of the loan companies. I wonder what % share of total USA mortgages were made by countrywide/Bofa?

Millions of homes going to the auction block this year! That will clog up systems.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:43:40

Northrop Grumman closing Tallulah shipyard in La.
NEW ORLEANS

Northrop Grumman Corp. will close its Tallulah shipyard before the end of 2010, ending 95 jobs, and will lay off 110 workers at its Avondale yard slated for closure in early 2013, the company said Tuesday.

Northrop Grumman said work will end around Oct. 29 at Tallulah, followed by total closure of the yard around Dec. 3.

The layoffs will involve employees in both union and non-union positions, the company said.

No definite layoff date was announced for Avondale.

On July 13, Northrop Grumman said it would close both yards as it consolidates military shipbuilding at Pascagoula, Miss.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 14:01:05

On July 13, Northrop Grumman said it would close both yards as it consolidates military shipbuilding at Pascagoula, Miss.

And they’re consolidating at the right yard. Pascagoula’s good.

Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 15:33:58

I had to perform a site-survey on USS Wisconsin when it was in drydock at Ingalls Shipyard at Pascagoula. They barely got it back into commission before putting it back into mothballs. :(

Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 20:07:46

Just Gimmie a freakin’ marking round and I WILL adjust you Fire Direction Control Turkeys !

:)

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Comment by DennisN
2010-08-03 14:16:10

Would the CEO of a financial institution in Tallulah be called a Tallulah Bank Head?

Comment by DinOR
2010-08-03 16:07:43

Ha ha…

Yeah, we’re talking about a measley 200 some-odd jobs here? I remember being in the Yards at Long Beach, CA and there were that many shipyard “sandcrabs” that would have flunked the pee-test on any given day!

What have we sunk to when we’re fretting over 200 jobs? Sorry but.., Sheesh!

 
Comment by neuromance
2010-08-03 18:52:01

You’ve been waiting 20 years to use that one, haven’t you.

:)

Comment by mikey
2010-08-03 20:15:10

I think DinOR is old navy.

Those guys are like whales, they never forget.

;)

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:45:11

Premier Bank closes Denver headquarters to save cash
The Denver Post

Premier Bank has closed its headquarters at 1630 Stout St. in an effort to cut costs.

The expiration of a 15-year lease July 31 made the timing right to leave the bank’s signature location, said Kenneth So, Premier’s president.

“We have been working real hard to turn the bank around,” he said. “This is helping us save quite a bit on overhead.”

Premier got into trouble with regulators three years ago for having an unusually heavy concentration of Small Business Administration loans — about 90 percent of its loan portfolio.

Collecting payments on those loans was labor intensive for the small bank. When the economy turned sour, defaults rose, requiring more work to liquidate bad loans.

State and federal regulators in April slapped the bank with a cease and desist order.

The concentration of SBA loans has fallen to less than 14 percent, and Premier has reduced staff from more than 62 to 29.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:47:13

Sea Ray cuts 18 more jobs in Tenn.
August 3, 2010

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (AP) - A report from the Tennessee Department of Labor and Workforce Development shows Sea Ray Boats has laid off 18 workers in Knox County.

The Knoxville News Sentinel reported officials of parent company Brunswick Corp. could not immediately be reached for comment Tuesday.

The layoffs at the Forks in the River Industrial Park were effective July 15.

The reductions come after Sea Ray put its Riverview Plant in the industrial park up for sale earlier this year. In January of 2009, the Lake Forest, Ill.-based company idled the plant, laying off 300 employees.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:48:43

PSL lays off more than 300 workers at Hancock Co. plant
August 3, 2010

BAY ST. LOUIS, Miss. (AP) — PSL North America has laid off about 300 workers at its Hancock County pipe manufacturing operation.

PSL CEO Brian Vail tells the Sea Coast Echo that the layoffs had more to do with the company’s current job ending than with any problems in the industry.

PSL North America is located at the Port Bienville Industrial Park.

Vail says PSL began a large project in January 2009 and that project is in its final stages. He says there is no pending work although the company is looking for business.

PSL came to Hancock County in 2007 after Hurricane Katrina. It manufactures, coats, and internally lines large diameter grade pipes.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:52:44

Place Your Bet, Help the Debt. ~NBC San Diego

The state of California continues to struggle with debt ($19 billion and counting), has slashed many state jobs, furloughed many of the others, and has no budget in place because the Republicans and Democrats in the legislature can’t agree on what’s best. You have to wonder if they could agree on the color of orange juice.

Raising taxes is out. The Dems won’t let Gov. Schwarzenegger do it. The governor has cut just about everything he possibly could and he’s considering slashing even more school programs and programs for the elderly. In November, voters will go to the polls to decide whether marijuana should be legalized and taxed by the state. The grim economic reality is making for possible changes that would have seemed unimaginable a few years ago.

So how about gambling? It’s big business and it just might be legalized in California. That’s if State Sen. Roderick Wright has his way. He supports a lawsuit that’s been filed in New Jersey challenging federal law that only allows gambling in a few states. Like Nevada.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 12:54:25

Saying Nope to SYEP
Does summer employment program deserve extra funds?

On Monday, District residents’ tax dollars went to pay Summer Youth Employment Program participants to attend a Council oversight session at which they lobbied for more funding for the program.

It’s just the latest outrage surrounding one of D.C.’s best-intentioned and worst-run programs.

SYEP, which hires about 20,000 D.C. youth for various minimum wage summer jobs, was budgeted at $22.7 million. But it’s already $11.5 million over budget — an overrun of 50 percent.

D.C. Auditor Deborah Nichols said Monday that “the lack of fiscal discipline in the design and execution [of SYEP] is irresponsible, poses a threat to other vital District programs and the District’s fiscal stability in these austere economic circumstances.” She said this year’s cost overruns are nothing new — SYEP overspent by more than $56 million over the past two years.

 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 13:23:01

9 Killed, 2 Wounded in Shooting at Beer Distributor
August 03, 2010 ~ FoxNews.com

A company executive says a warehouse worker who had been called in to resign opened fire at a beer distributor in Connecticut and at least three people were shot.

A Connecticut official says nine people have died and two were wounded in a shooting at a beer distribution warehouse in Connecticut, Fox News has learned.

Police sources identified the gunman as Omar S. Thornton, whose body was found inside the warehouse where the shooting took place, Manchester Police Lt. Joe San Antonio said.

The two wounded individuals were transported the Hartford Hospital are expected to survive, police say.

FOX61 in Hartford is reporting that the shooting may have been racially motivated, and that Thornton reportedly told his girlfriend that he had been discriminated against, and that a supervisor did nothing.

The shooting occurred shortly before 7:30 a.m. at the Manchester facilities of Hartford Distributors, one of the state’s largest beer and wine distribution companies. At the time, there were about 35 or 40 people in the office and warehouse, said Brett Hollander, the director of marketing, whose family founded and owns the company. The Courant reported that Steve Hollander, another member of the family, was one of the wounded.

Thorton was described by John Hollis, a Teamsters Union official, as a recent hire who worked as a driver. Hollis told the Courant that “the union was bringing him in to meet with the company to remedy” a “disciplinary problem.”

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 14:07:12

Oh, brother. This one hits close to home.

Years ago, I had a coworker (white) who married a black man. Nice guy, and quite a character. He had moved out to AZ after being an undercover cop in NJ.

Well, when my coworker first married this guy, she was working for a beer distributor here in Tucson. Suddenly, she stopped being invited to company events. And she was supposed to be at those events because she was in a management position.

Long story short: She sued the company for discrimination and won. So, any subsequent stories about discrimination in this business don’t surprise me at all.

Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 17:15:58

Turns out he was a thief, he had been caught stealing beer. The company was meeting him and the union rep. to give him a chance to quit instead of being fired. He pulls the racist card out and ends up killing 9 people.

Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 23:34:45

Again….a coked up VP can steal 100 times what a dock worker can…..amazing lets see what they paid him….

Of course it never right to kill people, but lets see if he is one of those new hires that is getting minimum wage plus commission while the long term lazy white drivers are getting $25 hr….

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 16:14:28

Jonas, 32, sewed up his own leg after ER wait
3 Aug 10 08:27 CET

Dictionary tool Double click on a word to get a translation

A 32-year-old took the needle into his hands when he tired of the wait at Sundsvall hospital in northern Sweden and sewed up the cut in his leg himself. The man was later reported to the police for his impromptu handiwork.

“It took such a long time,” the man told the local Sundsvall Tidning daily.

The man incurred the deep cut when he sliced his leg on the sharp edge of a kitchen stove while he was renovating at home.

“I first went to the health clinic, but it was closed. So I rang the medical help line and they told me that it shouldn’t be closed, so I went to emergency and sat there,” the man named only as Jonas told the newspaper.

After an hour-long wait in a treatment room, he lost patience and proceeded to sew up his own wound.

“They had set out a needle and thread and so I decided to take the matter into my hands,” he said.

But hospital staff were not as impressed by his initiative and have reported the man on suspicion of arbitrary conduct for having used hospital equipment without authorization.

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:48:20

To which he needs to counter claim “neglect.”

 
 
Comment by Red Beach Red Beard
2010-08-03 16:31:46

*BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICATION WARNING

Hipsters on food stamps — They’re young, they’re broke, and they pay for organic salmon with government subsidies. Got a problem with that?

http://www.salon.com/life/pinched/2010/03/15/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 16:53:59

Believe me, if you need food stamps, they make damn sure you qualify, contrary to popular belief.

And you REALLY don’t EVER want be in that position.

There is also a restricted list of what you can buy. Beer, soft drinks, snacks and candy are NOT on that list. (in some states neither is tea or coffee, but it does vary from state to state)

This is another example of MSM trying to create a controversy.

Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 16:55:50

I should add that I worked in this food co-op during the mid-1980s. Something tells me that, in response to unhappiness like what I just described, the food stamp program got a major tightening up.

Even so, I really wished that I could have afforded some of the organic goodies that the food stamp people bought.

 
 
Comment by Arizona Slim
2010-08-03 16:54:04

Ee-gads. Takes me back to my days as a cashier/stocker at a food co-op in Pittsburgh.

I’d often ring up purchases for food stamp people who were buying things that I couldn’t afford, even with my employee discount. Needless to say, this didn’t cause me to offer service with a smile.

 
 
Comment by wmbz
2010-08-03 17:19:36

California Democrats Seek Higher Income Tax, Oil Levy.

Aug. 2 (Bloomberg) — California, the largest U.S. municipal borrower, began its fiscal year July 1 without a spending plan as Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democrats remained deadlocked over how to best fill a $19.1 billion deficit. Bloomberg’s Matt Miller reports. (Source: Bloomberg)

California Democrats unveiled a plan to erase the state’s $19.1 billion budget deficit with higher income taxes and a new levy on oil producers to offset wholesale spending cuts proposed by Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

The plan from Democrats in the state Legislature would bring in $1.8 billion by increasing income-tax rates 1 percentage point on all but the wealthiest Californians. It would cut spending by $8 billion and raise $1.5 billion by increasing vehicle-registration fees, $600 million by taxing oil wells and $2 billion by suspending corporate tax breaks.

Schwarzenegger, 63, and fellow Republicans said they’ll block the proposals, continuing an impasse that has left the most-populous U.S. state without a budget since the fiscal year began on July 1. Controller John Chiang, a Democrat, has warned that he may need to issue IOUs instead of paying some state bills to save cash if the stalemate lasts into next month.

“Tax increases are dead on arrival,” Aaron McLear, Schwarzenegger’s spokesman, told reporters today. “Tax increases are not something we will support.”

Comment by ecofeco
2010-08-03 19:06:50

Then they had better find a way to get rid of the illegals, crush the graft, and cut back on the “political favor” contracts or they can kiss their “8th largest economy in the world” goodbye.

Or change it to “8th largest economy in the 3rd world.”

They could also legalize and then tax pot. Few billion right there.

 
 
Comment by rms
2010-08-03 18:35:20

“San Luis Obispo plans to crack down on landlords”

People who rent out their homes in San Luis Obispo and who don’t have a business license and tax certificate could face daily penalties if they do not come into compliance with a new city crackdown.

City officials say they will mail 3,900 enforcement letters later this month to property owners who appear to be renting homes without maintaining a required business tax certificate and license.

Those property owners will be given about a month to comply. If they do not, city officials say they will issue administrative citations up to $500 a day after the third straight day of non-compliance.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/2010/08/03/1237228/san-luis-obispo-plans-to-crack.html

 
Comment by measton
2010-08-03 19:39:44

Kellogg (NYSE: K - News) shareholders are likely battling sour stomachs after last week’s earnings release, which not even a merry band of Keebler elves could couch in a positive light.

Second-quarter sales fell 5%, to $3.1 billion. Earnings per share fared worse, declining 14% — or $0.13 — to $0.79. A variety of factors contributed to the stale performance, including a product recall in the last several days of the quarter.

On June 25, Kellogg announced a voluntary recall of U.S.-shipped cereals,

Management estimates that this snafu was responsible for $0.10 of the $0.13 EPS dip.
But we still need to account for the other three cents, plus the additional six cents or so that would’ve been necessary to produce mid-single-digit EPS growth —

And this is where things get really ugly. Kellogg cited deflationary forces in the U.S. and U.K. cereal category, a

In North American Retail Cereal, a subsegment of the company’s largest reporting division, sales fell by a currency-neutral 13%. Now, only an estimated 5% of that sales decline owed to the recall, with the balance coming from negatives such as retailer inventory pullback and lower consumer consumption. In other words, not only are consumers once again growing cautious, but retailers, too, appear to be stepping back into cash-conservation mode.

In fact, grocer SUPERVALU (NYSE: SVU - News) recently reported that its item-per-customer sales metric was down, while food stamp usage has risen to the “highest levels since we’ve been tracking it.” Signs of deflation — that dreaded D-word — are popping up elsewhere in the consumer landscape. Amazon.com (Nasdaq: AMZN - News) has slashed prices on its Kindle e-reader at what The New York Times calls an “unusual” rate, pushing a price war with Barnes & Noble (NYSE: BKS - News) and Sony (NYSE: SNE - News) into overdrive.

I don’t mean to spark a panic here, but for investors whose portfolios are heavily weighted toward U.S. consumer names, I’d digest Kellogg’s results as reason for concern. Major concern.

Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 22:47:02

Here is some evidence on deflation, from the online book sales market:

Amazon dot com
All Real Estate Is Local: What You Need to Know to Profit in Real Estate - in a Buyer’s and a Seller’s Market [Hardcover]
David Lereah (Author)

2.6 out of 5 stars See all reviews (5 customer reviews)
5 Reviews
5 star: (1)
4 star: (1)
3 star: (0)
2 star: (1)
1 star: (2)

› See all 5 customer reviews…
Price: $21.95
10 new from $1.99 18 used from $0.12

 
Comment by aNYCdj
2010-08-03 23:41:49

Finally do you know how expensive cereal is… we only buy when its really discounted last week was honey strawberry bunches of oats 2/$5 half price so we bought 10 boxes….exp date 2011

Kellogg cited deflationary forces in the U.S

 
 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 22:37:10

If you thought the U.S. had a problem of too many vacant housing units, get a load of this:

Caixin Online

Aug. 3, 2010, 8:30 p.m. EDT
Fear empty flats in China’s property bubble
Commentary: Even worse than price bubble is quantity bubble of vacant flats

By Andy Xie

BEIJING (Caixin Online) — How many flats in China are sitting empty? The media recently floated a story — denied by power companies — that 64.5 million urban electricity meters registered zero consumption over a recent, six-month period. That led to a theory that China has enough empty apartments to house 200 million people.

Statistical transparency is lacking in this area, so the truth about empty apartments remains under wraps. Publishing accurate data should be of the highest priority, since the size of the nation’s unused apartment stock is perhaps the most important measure of the extent and seriousness of China’s property-market bubble. Indeed, it’s a grave concern for policy making, since unpublished data may indicate not only a price bubble but a quantity bubble burdening the market.

 
Comment by Cantankerous Intellectual Bomb-thrower
2010-08-03 22:41:50

Poor Uncle Buck…

Currencies
Aug. 4, 2010, 1:26 a.m. EDT ·CORRECTED

Dollar falls as Fed mulls symbolic policy shift
Aussie little changed as Australian central bank holds rates steady

By Deborah Levine and William L. Watts, MarketWatch

An earlier version of this report misstated the last time the dollar traded lower than 85.69 yen. The report has been corrected.

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) — The U.S. dollar fell Tuesday to its lowest level since April, weighed down by a news report that Federal Reserve officials will consider a slight policy shift next week amid concerns over the strength of the U.S. economic recovery.

 
Comment by waiting_in_la
2010-08-03 22:48:50

This just in - they’re still trying to figure out what caused this thing :
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/03/did-low-interest-rates-cause-the-great-housing-convulsion/?ref=business

Anyone want to help ‘em out?

 
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